[00:49] <Daskreech> Anyone running Natty? Someone is asking about the sharing option on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/NattyNarwhal/Alpha3/Kubuntu
[00:52] <JontheEchidna> I think you might need to install kdenetwork-filesharing. Now that the filesharing isn't a wreck it should probably get seeded on the CD
[00:52] <JontheEchidna> (it wasn't before due to quality, or the lack thereof)
[08:06] <bambee> morning
[09:37] <Riddell> 18:03 < bambee> Riddell: pbuilder will not fail on launchpad if libmygpo-qt-dev is not found ?
[09:37] <Riddell> bambee: I'm not quite sure what you mean there
[09:37] <Riddell> if you have a package which build deps on libmygpo-qt-dev then it'll need to be able to find libmygpo-qt-dev
[09:39] <bambee> and it won't if libmygpo-qt-dev is not in ppa nor in archive :)
[09:40] <Riddell> yes
[11:15] <ChrisBuchholz> Hello guys. I was wondering if there is a way to get QMenuBar to be in the global menu spot of ubuntu in ubuntu 11.4, like gtk menubar is?
[11:15] <ChrisBuchholz> i know this might not be the best place to ask about ubuntu, but i was refered here to by #ubuntu+1
[11:17] <Riddell> ChrisBuchholz: yes, install appmenu-qt
[11:19] <ChrisBuchholz> Riddell: works, thanks!
[11:19] <ChrisBuchholz> that should really be included with natty...
[11:19] <Riddell> ChrisBuchholz: it's a bug in ubuntu desktop that they don't include it, I'll work around it by adding it as a recommends to Qt
[11:20] <ChrisBuchholz> Riddell: i see, great!
[11:36] <Riddell> agateau: git help needed, how do I checkout a tag?
[11:36] <Riddell> git tag lists the tag
[11:37] <Riddell> but I don't know how to do anything with it
[11:37] <Riddell> "git-tag - Create, list, delete or verify a tag object signed with GPG"  well that doesn't help
[11:49] <debfx> Riddell: git checkout <tagname>
[12:40] <agateau> Riddell: hey, I just got a bunch of bug fixes applied to plasma-widget-menubar, is it too late for Natty?
[12:41] <Riddell> agateau: nope, still time to get in
[12:41] <agateau> Riddell: great!
[12:41]  * agateau hurries to make a tarball then
[12:46] <ScottK> Riddell: I found us an amd64/mac tester.
[12:48] <Riddell> ScottK: ooh, someone rich presumably? :)
[12:49] <ScottK> Riddell: No idea.  They signed up for Ubuntu on amd64/mac and so I mailed them to ask if they'd do Kubuntu too.
[12:52] <agateau> Riddell: plasma-widget-menubar 0.1.15 released!
[13:34] <shadeslayer> gah
[13:34] <shadeslayer> i'll need to redo mine too
[13:34] <Riddell> shadeslayer: your what?
[13:35] <shadeslayer> Riddell: times for the meeting thing 
[13:36] <shadeslayer> wth .. i don't see a option to set the timezone
[13:53] <ScottK> I think you have to do it when you create the poll.
[13:55] <Riddell> I didn't notice any obvious option, the layout has all changed, I'll look out next time
[13:56] <ScottK> New quassel (bugfix) release, just in time for Beta 1.
[13:56]  * ScottK is packaging.
[14:04] <shadeslayer> yeah ... 
[14:13] <bambee> Riddell: I've homeworks to do, I will upload amarok on the PPA this evening
[14:14] <Riddell> thanks
[14:14] <bambee> (and ask for FFe too)
[14:24] <bambee> Riddell: until the FFe is accepted, I've to upload libmygpo-qt too ? I mean I don't want upload something which won't build
[14:25] <Riddell> bambee: libmygpo-qt needs to go into the PPA
[14:25] <bambee> ok
[14:25] <Riddell> once the FFe is accepted it can go into the main archive
[14:25] <bambee> ok
[14:25] <Riddell> once Amarok gets released we can evaluate if we want the new version in the main archive or not, if we do it'll need another FFe and a main inclusion report for libmygpo-qt
[14:26] <Riddell> things start to get beurocratic at this stage in the cycle :)
[14:27] <shadeslayer> yeah ^^ :P
[15:08] <Quintasan> hmmm
[15:08] <Quintasan> any idea why Ubuntu is not using debdelta?
[15:09] <Daskreech> Cause Gnome likes it /troll
[15:10] <Daskreech> Quintasan: There was a big debate about moving to it and using deltas for the sources listing when it first came out
[15:10] <Daskreech> I forget what came of it
[15:10] <Daskreech> maybe 3 years ago?
[15:10] <yofel> there was a more recent one too I think, the result was as unproductive
[15:11] <Daskreech> I missed that one
[15:11] <yofel> having to fetch .pdiff sources from debian sure is nice instead of downloading 4-6MB sources list files every time :S
[15:12] <Daskreech> funny it makes Yum about as fast as none diffed apt
[15:12] <yofel> heh
[15:12]  * yofel kills nepomukfilewatch in the meantime...
[15:38] <ScottK> Possibly a good UDS topic to bring to the platform team.
[15:51] <ximion> hi!
[15:51] <ximion> could someone please apply my patch against packagekit pkg and upload the new packagekit package?
[15:51] <ximion> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-2.0/+bug/740815/+attachment/1936588/+files/packagekit_0.6.11-2ubuntu2.debdiff
[15:52] <ximion> solves the bug mentioned above
[15:52] <ximion> (I cannot request sync with Debian this time, cause we're still waiting on some deps for the new PK version to enter unstable)
[15:52] <shadeslayer> ximion: i see a extra new line at the end of ubuntu.series
[15:53] <Riddell> shadeslayer: of all the packaging problems I've seen, an extra new line is not one of the biggest to concern me :)
[15:54] <ximion> shadeslayer: probably because I first synced the Ubuntu packaging with my Debian packaging and then reverted it (would introduce some new stuff requiring FFe)
[15:54] <shadeslayer> just saying :)
[15:54] <ximion> maybe there was a new line missing in debian/series
[15:56] <shadeslayer> ScottK: so thiago says a patch for QSslSocket is coming soon, will track that and get back to you :)
[15:56] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Please tell mdslaur.
[15:57] <ximion> ah, Martin Pitt is already sponsoring this patch, so sorry for the noise :P
[15:57] <Riddell> ScottK: I'm in contact with the relevant canonical security guy
[15:58] <ximion> (will check my e-mails more often next time ^^)
[15:58] <ScottK> Riddell: OK.  
[15:58] <Riddell> which is micahg
[15:58] <ScottK> shadeslayer: ^^^ I guess Riddell's got a handle on it.
[15:58] <shadeslayer> oh
[15:59] <shadeslayer> already informed mdeslaur
[15:59] <Riddell> ximion: no problem, thanks for packaging packagekit :)
[15:59] <shadeslayer> well .. thats the latest from my siede
[15:59] <shadeslayer> *side
[16:00] <ximion> Riddell: :-)
[16:18] <Riddell> I wonder if we want the new release of ktorrent
[16:22] <Daskreech> What are the arguements against it?
[16:22] <Daskreech>  It's a snotty teenage?
[16:24] <Riddell> we're post feature freeze
[16:34] <ScottK> I guess the big question would be if there are any protocol changes the newer ktorrent is needed to support.
[16:34] <ScottK> If there are, we probably want it.
[16:34] <ScottK> (someone would have to care about it more than I do to actually check for that)
[16:34] <Riddell> http://ktorrent.org/?q=node/49  nothing about protocls there
[16:36] <ScottK> It does seem a bit late for a "Redesigned the user interface" kind of update.
[16:36] <Riddell> yes
[16:36] <ScottK> See.  I care enough to click on the link.
[16:37] <ScottK> ;-)
[16:38] <nixternal> Riddell: i would say file an FFE and do it, as it fixes a couple of bugs, and the memory leak that was freezing the system
[16:39] <Riddell> ooh, a volunteer :)
[16:41] <nixternal> if i had a machine capable of building ktorrent in a decent amount of time, i would do it
[16:43] <ScottK> nixternal: You do.  It's called a PPA.
[16:44] <ScottK> That or you could use the powerpc box.  It's not incredibly slow.
[16:47] <Riddell> nixternal: I can also set up ec2 machines for packaging
[17:15] <Daskreech> hi rickspencer3
[17:15] <Daskreech> Riddell: do you know anything about #kubuntu-es ?
[17:20] <rickspencer3> Hi Daskreech
[17:20] <Daskreech> rickspencer3: how goes?
[17:21] <rickspencer3> Daskreech, a-ok
[17:21] <Daskreech> great :)
[17:24] <shadeslayer> DarkwingDuck: Congrats btw :)
[17:24] <jjesse> congrats w/ what?
[17:39] <shadeslayer> jjesse: he was elected to the UBT Council
[17:40] <ScottK> What's UBT?
[17:40] <ScottK> Ubuntu Beer Tossers?
[17:41] <shadeslayer> Ubuntu beginners team :P
[17:41] <ScottK> Ah.
[17:43] <ScottK> rickspencer3: Is Canonical sending anyone to http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/03/24/qt-contributors-summit-update/
[17:43] <ScottK> Seems like it might be a nice idea.
[17:46]  * rickspencer3 looking
[17:51] <shadeslayer> hmm weird ..
[17:51] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin: around?
[17:51] <mgraesslin> shadeslayer: yes, but time constrained
[17:51] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin: i'm missing the 'x' buttons in my windows when i trigger expose
[17:52] <shadeslayer> i see a gray area, but no icons
[17:52] <mgraesslin> pixmap cache?
[17:52]  * shadeslayer is trying to get a screenshot
[17:53] <rickspencer3> ScottK, thanks for the link
[17:53] <ScottK> You're welcome.
[17:53] <rickspencer3> does look highly relevant
[17:54] <ScottK> It looks like they are working on community governance issues, so in addition to being an interested party, Canonical ought to be able to bring some expertise to the problem at hand.
[17:55] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin: http://i.imgur.com/9bGdh.jpg
[17:55] <shadeslayer> see the gray boxes at the bottom?
[17:55] <mgraesslin> oh that are the icons
[17:55] <mgraesslin> what are you running
[17:55] <mgraesslin> ?
[17:55] <shadeslayer> 4.6.1
[17:56] <mgraesslin> driver?
[17:56] <shadeslayer> and Qt 4.7.2 ... Natty
[17:56] <shadeslayer> one sec
[17:56] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin: 270.30-0ubuntu3 Nvidia binary blog
[17:56] <shadeslayer> *blob
[17:56] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I have the X with Intel.
[17:56] <mgraesslin> I have been seeing these icon problems with NVIDIA on my own system
[17:57] <shadeslayer> ScottK: any issues with the icons?
[17:57] <mgraesslin> in 4.6 our code should not have changed
[17:57] <ScottK> Not that I've noticed.
[17:57] <mgraesslin> but we recently have some problems with NVIDIA
[17:57] <ScottK> mgraesslin: Fortunately this time you have the hardware ...
[17:58] <mgraesslin> yes but the affending driver has not yet hit debian testing
[17:58] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin: want me to open a bug?
[17:58] <mgraesslin> shadeslayer: nah, I know about it
[17:58] <shadeslayer> oh okay
[17:58] <ScottK> mgraesslin: You should be running a less ancient distro.
[17:58] <shadeslayer> *hint hint*
[17:58] <ScottK> Possibly even a popular Debian derivative.
[17:59] <mgraesslin> too much work - update each half a year
[18:00] <ScottK> It would make testing fixes for the current KDE release a lot easier...
[18:00]  * mgraesslin runs master
[18:13] <bambee> why quassel fonts are suddenly ugly ? (since this evening) o_O
[18:14] <bambee> fonts were updated recently... probably that...
[18:18] <yofel> depends on your font I guess, monospace is fine here
[18:23] <bambee> I use default fonts (I did not touch configuration about that)
[18:27] <ScottK> New version of the Ubuntu fonts just went in.  We (much to my chagrin) use them by default.
[20:09] <bambee> Riddell: libmygpo-qt and amarock uploaded for natty and maverick ;)
[20:11] <bambee> however I have uploaded amarok~maverick1~ppa2 1 hour ago and it's not present yet o_O
[20:14] <Daskreech> Does anyone know anything about #kubuntu-es ?
[20:25] <yofel> Riddell: just wondering, why isn't ~kubuntu-bugs subscribed to kubuntu-ppa bugs?