[00:42] <Q-FUNK> hi! which package was it that provides the notification area icons used by Ambiance, again?
[00:42] <Q-FUNK> while nm-applet no longer crashes (hurray!), now the icons in the notification area are all broken.
[00:43] <rww> Q-FUNK: I think it's ubuntu-mono
[00:48] <PSN|VegaMan> howdy
[00:51] <Q-FUNK> rww: that seems to be correct. thanks!
[00:52] <mmiller235> Um, the alternate installer just quit and dumped me out to a shell without even telling me what happened
[00:52] <lucas> i have just installed kubuntu natty alpha 3, expecting that file sharing would work like this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/NattyNarwhal/Alpha3/Kubuntu, "New Samba File Sharing". But the "share" tab never appears. Am I supposed to install a package?
[00:52] <mmiller235> is there a way to continue?
[00:53] <PSN|VegaMan> is this a help only channel or is it a social channel too?
[00:53] <rww> PSN|VegaMan: #ubuntu+1 is for discussion and support of development versions of Ubuntu. Try #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat.
[00:54] <PSN|VegaMan> ok rww thanks
[00:55] <JontheEchidna> lucas: you may need to install kdenetwork-filesharing. It's probably an oversight that it's not installed by default
[01:13] <PSN|VegaMan> does anyone know how to change window border colors so that i can have one side 1 color and another side another color?
[01:18] <lucas> JontheEchidna: Yeah, it works like a charm. Thanks a lot, I have been searching for this package since monday (duh, such an obvious name). About it's absence from the default mastering: maybe it just didn't fit inside the cd. 700mb has become a tight limit.
[01:27] <bazhang> !find padevchooser
[01:29] <BUGabundo> pavucontrol ?
[01:41] <bjsnider> i think pavucontrol has been deprecated for a long time
[01:44] <mmiller235> I just loaded ubuntu 11.04 onto a virtual machine and its taking forever for unity to come up
[01:44] <mmiller235> any ideas why?
[01:45] <yofel> bjsnider: and what do we use now?
[01:45] <mmiller235> I'm having a problem. Gsettings Data Conversion keeps crashing when I try to log in
[01:45] <bjsnider> yofel, the audio controls in the sound menu
[01:46] <yofel> what's the external command for that? I'm on kubuntu, and kmix doesn't have any usable support for pulseaudio controls
[01:47] <mmiller235> could someone help me get ubuntu 11.04 to actually run in virtualbox?
[01:51] <bjsnider> yofel, does kubuntu make use of pulse?
[01:52] <yofel> bjsnider: it does
[01:53] <yofel> and kmix can pretty much just control the master channel, not much of a mixer...
[01:53] <bjsnider> if i was a kde user i'd probably have to use mandriva or suse instead of ubuntu
[01:53] <yofel> well, phonon will use alsa fine if you get rid of pulse
[01:54] <rww> I like Kubuntu. I like Debian+KDE better, but Kubuntu is better than people tend to give it credit for.
[01:54] <trism> I don't see anything about pavucontrol being deprecated, the pulseaudio site says pavumeter is obsolete but not pavucontrol (that I can see)
[01:55] <bjsnider>  i think as far as ubuntu is concerned all of the pulse built-in utilities are deprecated
[02:00] <triunity> Hey in unity for desktop  will i only be able to manage one window?
[02:00] <triunity> Like in the laptop version?
[02:01] <bazhang> no
[02:01] <triunity> good to hear
[02:03] <PSN|VegaMan> anyone here know how to get GGPO to work on ubuntu?
[02:03] <bazhang> whats ggpo
[02:03] <mmiller235> Anyone manage to get 11.04 with unity to work in virtualbox?
[02:03] <PSN|VegaMan> a type of emulator that has very little lag
[02:03] <PSN|VegaMan> online
[02:04] <bazhang> emulator for what
[02:04] <PSN|VegaMan> games
[02:04] <bazhang> right, what kind of games
[02:04] <PSN|VegaMan> 1 sec all get the link
[02:04] <PSN|VegaMan> i'll
[02:05] <bazhang> !find ggpo
[02:05] <mmiller235> bazhang when I try to run unity in virtualbox, the top panel and the side bar don't appear
[02:05] <PSN|VegaMan> http://ggpo.net/
[02:05] <bazhang> !info gcompris-data
[02:05] <mmiller235> bazhang how do I fix it
[02:05] <bazhang> !info gcompris
[02:05] <PSN|VegaMan> like fighting games mostly
[02:06] <bazhang> mmiller235, not sure, I use the straight install not vbox'
[02:06] <PSN|VegaMan> but it has other games too
[02:06] <bazhang> what format of games exactly
[02:06] <PSN|VegaMan> um... lemme look
[02:07] <PSN|VegaMan> i think .zip
[02:07] <PSN|VegaMan> or .exe
[02:07] <mmiller235> bazhang could you find someone who has tried
[02:09] <omega__> test
[02:09] <BUGabundo> night
[02:09] <bazhang> wine and adobe air seem to run ggpo
[02:09] <triunity_> clear
[02:10] <bazhang> as of 3 years ago
[02:10] <triunity> join /ubuntu
[02:10] <triunity> join #ubuntu
[02:10] <bazhang>   /join
[02:10] <triunity_> thanks!
[02:10] <PSN|VegaMan> bazhang: how do i use wine? i have it installed but i dont know how to operate it
[02:11] <bazhang> PSN|VegaMan, check the appdb first for ggpo
[02:11] <bazhang> !appdb
[02:12] <mmiller235> bazhang could you tell me the name of the commands for the top and side panel so I could atleast try and diagnose the problem
[02:16] <triunity_> When 11.04 comes out, will it install unity on the system?
[02:16] <triunity_> or will a fresh install be needed?
[02:16] <rww> triunity_: the upgrade tool (re-)installs ubuntu-desktop, and will thus install the unity packages.
[02:16] <rww> whether they'll be used by GDM by default, I don't know.
[02:20] <mmiller235> rww could you pleasae help me get unity to run in virtualbox?
[02:20] <rww> mmiller235: I don't use Unity or Virtualbox, wouldn't be much help.
[02:20] <mmiller235> rww is there anyone here who does?
[02:21] <rww> mmiller235: probably!
[02:21] <bazhang> mmiller235, please dont crosspost natty issues in #ubuntu
[02:21] <mmiller235> bazhang sorry
[02:22] <ali1234> i upgraded couple of days ago... the entries are there on gdm but they don't work
[02:23] <ali1234> every option gives you classic safe mode
[02:24] <mmiller235> no, the options work, but the new modes keep crashing
[02:24] <ali1234> ah, could be
[02:25] <ali1234> anyway i did a fresh install and it all works now
[02:25] <mmiller235> ali1234 are you using virtualbox?
[02:25] <ali1234> no
[02:25] <ali1234> i'm using real hardware with intel graphics (pinetrail)
[02:26] <ali1234> virtualbox is known to be broken, at least a few people have asked about it and i didn't see any workarounds yet
[02:28] <ali1234> bug 738330
[02:29] <ali1234> (no guest additions = no 3d = no unity3d)
[02:35]  * mmiller235 downloads a live cd to run on his windows machine
[02:51] <hansin> I have alpha3 11.04 installed. Unity looks promising, and look forward to what it could become and possibility of Wayland sever becoming default for graphics (if it happens). Quick question, but is Unity built on Gnome3 / GTK3 core (minus gnome shell, etc.)? Thanks.
[02:51] <hansin> vs. Gnome2 / GTK2?
[02:53] <hansin> I did read somewhere that Unity 2D (non-composite-ed) might be based on QT4. I might be way off on all this though. Just was curious. I have been a big fan of Compiz for some time, and like how it has been integrated into Unity. Things look on the up and up for the Linux desktop.
[02:58] <rww> Unity 2D uses Qt4 as a toolkit and GNOME for the underlying libraries/applications/etc.
[02:58] <rww> Wayland is a long while off.
[02:58] <rww> Ubuntu 11.04 does not include GNOME 3, is still using GNOME 2.
[03:04] <hansin> rww: Okay, thanks. It all seems an evolutionary process, but progress seems to be being made.
[03:12] <hansin> Sorry if this is a bad place to ask, but I am running
[03:12] <hansin> +1:
[03:12] <hansin> If you just install Grub, it will check to see what OS'es you have installed and make menu entries for them. No need to reinstall any operating systems. Just reinstall Grub.
[03:13] <hansin> woops...
[03:13] <hansin> I am getting dual-screen setup via: "xrandr --output HDMI-0 --left-of DVI-0 --rotate left". Thing is, I need to set an offset of some sort on the Y axis so that I can align monitors (since I have left rotated.) Anyone know anything about xrandr as applied to this? Thanks.
[03:19] <jamie4> Any version of 11.04 available yet, or is it just the beta next week?
[03:19] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule   <---- jamie4
[03:20] <rww> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/alpha3
[04:33] <WRAz> Unity was built from the ground up or is it based on another project?
[04:33] <rww> built from the ground up
[04:33] <WRAz> Were there big flaws in GNOME or just wanted a very specific experience?
[04:34] <WRAz> (also it looks super sexy, can't wait for my install to complete)
[04:35] <rww> http://askubuntu.com/questions/9424/why-is-ubuntu-11-04-switching-to-unity
[04:37] <WRAz> " Canonical employs a lot of professional design experts and they may feel they can do a better job than," /truth
[04:38] <WRAz> Looks super tablet friendly as well
[07:28] <Severian> If I wanted to install Natty with a Gnome desktop and no global menues, is there an easy way to do that?
[08:40] <PSN|VegaMan> !social
[08:40] <PSN|VegaMan> !$ubuntu
[08:40] <PSN|VegaMan> !#ubuntu
[08:41] <PSN|VegaMan> !#ubuntu+1
[08:41] <PSN|VegaMan> anyone know how to install a theme?
[08:42] <PSN|VegaMan> i found 1 i downloaded but i dunno how to install it
[08:43] <bazhang> drag the tar.gz to the theme manager, usually
[08:43] <bazhang> right click change desktop background go to themes tab drop there
[08:44] <PSN|VegaMan> kk thanks baz
[08:44] <PSN|VegaMan> bazhang:
[08:44] <bazhang> PSN|VegaMan, welcome
[08:45] <PSN|VegaMan> gtk-2.0" does not appear to be a valid theme.
[08:45] <PSN|VegaMan> :/
[08:46] <bazhang> PSN|VegaMan, got a link to it?
[08:46] <PSN|VegaMan> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Black+%26+Green?content=76319
[08:46] <bazhang> I'll check it now
[08:47] <PSN|VegaMan> oh i see what i did.... i extracted
[08:47] <PSN|VegaMan> lemme try again
[08:48] <bazhang> dont extract
[08:48] <PSN|VegaMan> "This theme will not look as intended because the required GTK+ theme 'Rocker' is not installed"
[08:48] <bazhang> still waiting for the download
[08:49] <PSN|VegaMan> Search for themes:
[08:49] <PSN|VegaMan> No search results for "rocker"
[08:53] <bazhang> that link is still not connecting
[08:53] <bazhang> ie the download within the link
[08:55] <PSN|VegaMan> there's usually a file sharing option in irc
[08:55] <PSN|VegaMan> lemme see if this one has it
[08:57] <PSN|VegaMan> bah
[08:57] <PSN|VegaMan> i dont have a log in to send it to you
[08:58] <bazhang> PSN|VegaMan, I'll check it later, I have to run for now
[08:58] <PSN|VegaMan> kk
[09:09] <ChrisBuchholz> Is it possible to get integration for the global menubar in Natty in Qt apps? (as a user or as a developer)
[09:18] <Mkaysi> When will that Natty daily CD fit on CD? It's still over 700mb :(
[09:23] <iceroot> Mkaysi: why burn a daily-build?
[09:23] <Mkaysi> iceroot: Because I have heard that Mac OS X doesn't boot from USB very well.
[09:24] <Mkaysi> *Macbook
[09:24] <iceroot> Mkaysi: heard != the truth out there
[09:25] <iceroot> Mkaysi: cant imaging apple products are so bad that they cant boot from usb
[09:25] <Mkaysi> iceroot: So how it boots from USB?
[09:25] <Mkaysi> What is shortvut for USB if it exists?
[09:25] <Mkaysi> *shortcut
[09:25] <iceroot> Mkaysi: google is saying "alt"
[09:26] <iceroot> for the boot-menu
[09:26] <Mkaysi> (IE: To boot from CD, you have to press "C"-button on boot)
[09:26] <Mkaysi> What boot-menu?
[09:27] <iceroot> Mkaysi: i dont know, i dont own any apple-products but the boot-menu at startup to choose which device is used (pxe, hdd, cdrom, usb) is meantioned with "alt"
[09:27] <Mkaysi> iceroot: Thanks, I'll try that later.
[10:14] <headset> hi all hear 11.4 fixed ati drivers is that true ?
[10:29] <ChrisBuchholz> Is it possible to get QMenuBar to be integrated in Unity, as it is in Gtk apps? The menubar, that is
[10:45] <coz_> hey all
[10:50] <Rowan`> anyone else running natty and the cursor is always saying it's busy? also when logging out it always gives me a message about the file manager not responding
[10:51] <coz_> Rowan`,  I am not seeing that behavior here
[10:51] <tsimpson> ChrisBuchholz: hard to say, but #kubuntu-devel would be a better place to ask
[10:51] <coz_> Rowan`,  did you  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:51] <Rowan`> yeah i'm fully upgraded
[10:51] <coz_> Rowan`,  ok let me  dist-upgrade and see if I get the same issue,,,wait,,,are you on Unity desktop or classic gnome?
[10:52] <Rowan`> unity desktop
[10:52] <Rowan`> also my file manager doesn't work in general, maybe that's it..
[10:52] <coz_> Rowan`,  mm  I never use Unity desktop but let me do this hold on
[10:52] <Rowan`> thanks, much appreciated
[10:54] <coz_> Rowan`,  well this is going to take a few minutes... apparenlty I have not run dist-upgrade in a week
[10:54] <Rowan`> hehe, don't worry about it
[10:55] <Rowan`> actually if there's a risk of you getting the same issues as me i'd suggest not doing so :P
[10:55] <coz_> Rowan`,  no biggie  honest..
[10:56] <coz_> doesnt matter,,, natty is on another machine  so it wont effect this one
[10:59] <Rowan`> i think it's actually an error with groundcontrol
[11:00] <Rowan`> when running sudo nautilus it stops and mentions that
[11:01] <Rowan`> yep i removed groundcontrol and all is running well again
[11:01]  * Rowan` facepalms
[11:01] <coz_> Rowan`,  if that is the case... it should show up on classic gnome as well....
[11:02] <Rowan`> sorry about that
[11:02] <coz_> Rowan`,  ah ok   well I dont think groundcontrol is necessary and that is an optional package ...yes?
[11:02] <Rowan`> yeah it's optional
[11:02] <Rowan`> adds a gui to nautilus for bzr stuff
[11:03] <coz_> ok  likely it wont show up when the update is complete and i reboot then
[11:03] <Rowan`> haha yeah :P it's all working here now
[11:03] <Rowan`> i'll actually restart and see if it still happens
[11:03] <coz_> cool
[11:05] <Rowan`> everything's looking great on natty so far
[11:05] <Rowan`> both gnome and unity
[11:05] <Rowan`> can't wait for a stable release
[11:06] <Rowan`> yep it was all groundcontrol's fault
[11:12] <ChrisBuchholz> tsimpson: im just wondering; this is unity and ubuntu specific. Wouldnt that be offtopic in #kbuuntu-devel?
[11:13] <tsimpson> ChrisBuchholz: asking the question is certainly not off topic
[11:15] <ChrisBuchholz> tsimpson: okay thanks
[11:36] <Mkaysi_> iceroot: It (Macbook) doesn't boot from USB. I tried it.
[11:37] <Mkaysi_> That way only show "refit" (Mac OS X) and "Windows" (broken Natty)
[11:37] <Mkaysi_> And to refit there appeared two new choises.
[11:37] <Mkaysi_> Boot Mac or Linux or Linux or Linux.
[11:38] <Mkaysi_> Every Linux opened GRUB (from HD).
[12:09] <irssipimp> hi
[12:10] <irssipimp> i upgraded a fresh maverick install to natty and now the encfs home directory of my user stopped to be automagically mounted on login.
[12:10] <irssipimp> is there some assistant to reenable this feature and is it a known issue?
[12:11] <irssipimp> or will i have to manually follow one of the various pam+encfs tutorials?
[12:14] <Severian> I have a machine that I need to vnc to.  When I say need, it is only testing now, but will be real when Natty is released.  I am testing Natty on it.  How do I disable visual effects, so vnc works properly.  I have googled and not found anything useful.
[12:15] <soreau> Severian: metacity --replace?
[12:16] <Severian> That does not look like a real command, so I take it you are suggesting I google for that.  OK.  Thanks.
[12:20] <susundberg> Hey btw, anyone else suffering from 'feature' that flash-videos are drawn even though it should be minimized/behind window
[12:20] <susundberg> (nvidia specific i guess)
[12:28] <syn3rgy> Doing a little work on Wayland. Got home and dropped the current snapshot on VMWare. Is there a reason Natty's desktop does not show up on VMWare. I know there was an issue with Nvidia at one point. Thought that was fixed.
[12:29] <yofel> syn3rgy: does VMWare have openGL support? unity requires compiz
[12:29] <syn3rgy> yofel yes it does.
[12:30] <yofel> hm, well, several people seem to have issues getting unity to load, so you're not the only one at least...
[12:30] <syn3rgy> I am wondering if they all have Nvidia cards. I know ATI, Intel cards are more or less sorted.
[12:31] <chadi> is btrfs the default for natty?
[12:32] <irssipimp> ok, i figured out, that it does work with password-login, but using ssh-key login does not unlock the home folder
[12:32] <irssipimp> i *think* that it worked on maverick tough
[12:32] <irssipimp> *though
[12:33] <syn3rgy> Does anybody use Unity with a Nvidia card here?
[12:34] <Severian> soreau, That was basically it.  I removed the question mark and added it as a Startup Application.  VNC works fine now.  Thank you.
[12:34] <soreau> np
[12:35] <soreau> syn3rgy: I use radeon and untiy wont show anything but wallpaper and mouse cursor
[12:35] <yofel> hm, I usually use KDE, but I just tried to login to unity on my thinkpad (nvidia-current) and ended up with a compiz crash :(
[12:35] <soreau> I have to start compiz and unity-panel to have a working desktop
[12:35] <yofel> soreau: how do you do that?
[12:35] <yofel> start compiz I mean
[12:36] <soreau> yofel: Very loudly and angrily, while cussing and ranting about how bad unity blows chunks
[12:36] <yofel> heh
[12:36]  * s3r3n1t7 lol'd
[12:40] <syn3rgy> soreau that to to bad to hear but all the same it is good to know it is not just a Nvidia problem. Are you using a VM?
[12:40] <soreau> no
[12:54] <mungo-> is dropbox installable in the most current update of natty ?
[12:58] <irssipimp> is the partner repository for natty already created?
[13:00] <zniavre> good afternoon
[13:01] <yofel> mungo-: dropboxd works fine for me
[13:01] <yofel> the syncing part at least
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:54] <mungo-> thank you yofel
[13:58] <mungo-> if i would like my fonts rendered as nice as possible what files should i delete from my /home directory prior to installing natty ?
[13:58] <mungo-> should i delete my .fonts.conf ?
[14:07] <mungo-> has ubuntu one changed since its inital release ?
[14:08] <susundberg> i would guess yes, but i am sure you can find the version history from somewhere ..
[14:08] <mungo-> i am interesting in sharing files not with a obscured url but rather a direct url like http://ubuntu1.com/myfile.pdf  can that be done on ubuntu one ?
[14:10] <mungo-> did i read that right $2.99 for 20GB storage ?
[14:49] <zniavre> the launcher color hav rules or it's randomly sets ?
[15:16] <SwedeMike> ml
[15:16] <SwedeMike> oops
[15:26] <Ian_Corne> does ubuntu one file sync actually work for anyone?
[15:29] <yofel> Ian_Corne: somewhat, since I'm on KDE I can only measure if the syncdaemon works or not, and it does sync here (at least it did last time I tried it)
[15:36] <bullgard4> How can determine if my distribution release is Alpha3 or Beta?
[15:36] <bullgard4> How can I determine if my distribution release is Alpha3 or Beta?
[15:36] <BUGabundo> doesn't really mind
[15:36] <BUGabundo> once you upgrade packages
[15:37] <flodine> theres no beta yet?
[15:38] <IdleOne> !schedule
[15:39] <IdleOne> beta1 on the 31st
[15:39] <IdleOne> bullgard4: right now you are still at Alpha3
[15:41] <flodine> running fine so far
[15:49] <kim0> Hi folks .. Letting you know Ubuntu Cloud Days starting in 10mins in #ubuntu-classroom .. You can discuss in #ubuntu-classroom-chat .. Thanks
[15:51] <cmyrland> Do I report suspend-issues to launchpad?
[15:52] <cmyrland> I have an Acer Aspire Timeline T3810t that doesn't wake up from suspend (lid close or suspend if inactive on battery power)
[15:53] <psusi> cmyrland: does it work with other releases?
[15:54] <bullgard4> IdleOne: My question was "How can I determine..."
[15:54] <cmyrland> psusi, none since 10.04 at least
[15:54] <cmyrland> haven't tried it on earlier releases
[15:55] <IdleOne> bullgard4: I gave you the link to the schedule, there is no command that i know of that will show you Alpha 3 or Beta 1
[15:55] <fdadsdasdssd> have wish for ubuntu
[15:55] <antlong> is there an app to change the theme or visual effects on ubuntu 11? the sidebar specifically
[15:56] <bullgard4> IdleOne: Ah! Thank you very much for your help.
[15:57] <cmyrland> antlong, people are hacking it, but there's nothing official like the compiz settings manager or others
[15:57] <antlong> thats crazy, thanks
[15:57] <antlong> the sidebar is quickly becomming the bane of my existance
[15:58] <psusi> cmyrland: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend?
[15:58] <frybye> antlong - you can boot into a classic desktop mode I think...
[15:58] <antlong> frybye, i might just do that. thanks
[15:58] <bullgard4> frybye: Hello!
[15:59] <cmyrland> antlong, I guess their first priority is making it stable
[15:59] <frybye> hi bullgard...
[15:59] <antlong> cmyrland, psh, theyre priorities are messed up then ;)
[15:59] <antlong> their*
[15:59] <frybye> you won't see me here so much cos at the moment have no ubuntu installed at home - at work yeah ..
[16:00] <bullgard4> frybye: hehe
[16:00] <frybye> my main box at home will not even run the 10.10 live cd... it dosent like the nvidia support...
[16:01] <bullgard4> Thanky God I do not have an Nvidia card.
[16:02] <bullgard4> s/Thanky/Thanks/
[16:02] <frybye> I will probably get a lot of stick for saying it here - but w7 is just so much easier.. ;=)
[16:04] <fdadsdasdssd> please
[16:04] <fdadsdasdssd> !!
[16:04] <fdadsdasdssd> next !! versio n
[16:05] <IdleOne> fdadsdasdssd: what?
[16:06] <bullgard4> frybye: I this not almost a 'desecration of the Holy' in an Ubuntu channel? :-)
[16:07] <fdadsdasdssd> next version should very good !!
[16:07] <fdadsdasdssd> manpower in that
[16:13] <frybye> bullgard4: it is always a thin line between true religion and biggoted dogma.. he - I better leave it there - sort of OT i suppose...
[16:13] <IdleOne> frybye: use what works best for you, if that happens to be Windows that is fine.
[16:13] <bullgard4> frybye: Its been nice to see you again.
[16:14]  * IdleOne prepares to throw bricks at frybye 
[16:14] <frybye> tell me if you think this phrase computes: "There you are granny - I have installed 11.04 for you!" heheheh
[16:15] <frybye> ducks behind the corperate firewall... heheh
[16:15] <IdleOne> I installed 10.10 netbook for my mom and she has not asked me a single question about how to do anything. in 3-4 months
[16:15] <IdleOne> they change to 11.04 should not be a issue for her
[16:15] <frybye> which says more about firefox than much else i supect.. heheh
[16:16] <IdleOne> actually she prefers chromium
[16:16] <IdleOne> ha
[16:16] <IdleOne> she does her banking,plays some online flash games, checks email.
[16:17] <cmyrland> psusi, Well I tried what they suggested but didn't gain too much from it. This is the relevant output from dmesg: [    0.594596]   Magic number: 3:99:187
[16:17] <cmyrland> [    0.594644] acpi device:46: hash matches
[16:17] <frybye> anyhow - is only a matter of time before my ubuntu-addiction overwhealms me at home again .. catch you later.. bye for now...
[16:17] <IdleOne> later
[16:18] <psusi> cmyrland: well, you can try filing a bug against linux then...
[16:21] <charolastra> hi, how representiv is the daily build for the final release? i'm testing it for some time now and it seem to become more and more unuseable
[16:24] <flodine> will they keep this classic look in natty?
[16:26] <flodine> cause if not i might as well get the debian cd out right now.
[16:35] <cmyrland> flodine, you can still use the Ubuntu Classical Desktop, yes.
[16:42] <dasddsdasdsadsad> developments here ?
[16:47] <arand> dasddsdasdsadsad: This is generally a support channel, what is your actual question?
[16:50] <flodine> anyone try natty on a old thinkpad yet?
[16:50] <cmyrland> Hmf. I just can't accept the fact that the devs won't use the Nautilus Elementary patches per default. It looks so much sleeker than stock Nautilus. I understand that Canonical has their focus on Unity, USC and stuff like that, but really, Nautilus Elementary is really simple, looks so much better and will cause no problems what do ever.
[16:51] <cmyrland> flodine, what specs?
[16:51] <flodine> t43p 0r t42p
[16:51] <cmyrland> what cpu, ram, gfx card..
[16:53] <cmyrland> flodine, from googling those two models I can't see why Natty wouldn't work fine on either of them.
[16:54] <cmyrland> very standard specs, and Thinkpads are normally very well supported
[16:55] <flodine> yeah my kids have those old ibms with 10.04 and there running perfect.
[16:56] <SwedeMike> flodine: I have a T40 I'm going to try it on soon.
[16:57] <flodine> i tryed it before but it dont like that unity side runs well on classic.
[17:17] <mungo-> can someone please show me an example of a photo linked using ubuntu one ?
[17:20] <yofel> mungo-: you mean a photo in your ubuntuone share posted somewhere else?
[17:21] <mungo-> yes
[17:21] <mungo-> is there a ubuntu one support channel ?  is its primary purpose not for web link sharing but rather for data backup ?
[17:22] <BUGabundo> mungo-: #ubuntuone ?
[17:22] <yofel> yes, #ubuntuone and you can publish files in the web UI
[17:22] <yofel> that'll give you a link like http://ubuntuone.com/p/jGm/
[17:24] <coz_> yofel,  that's an interesting image.. yours?
[17:24] <yofel> my backgound image, but sheytan created it
[17:24] <coz_> yofel,  are my eyes fooling me ..or is there a crease on the gear there?
[17:26] <yofel> there's a shadow overlay on the right side of the gears if you mean that
[17:29] <coz_> yofel, no looks like a light streak where the shadow overlay begins
[17:31] <yofel> oh, you mean that the background seems to have a cut where it gears were put in? yeah
[17:32] <coz_> yofel,  is that a design flaw or ,, I am missing the meaning of it:)  unless I dont understand the KDE logo thingy
[17:34] <coz_> trism,  hey guy.. out of curiosity,, which part of the country are you in?
[17:34] <yofel> well, I think he meant it like the gears are looking out of the shadow or something like that, talk to sheytan, he's in #kubuntu-devel sometimes (in a few hours usually)
[17:35] <trism> coz_: US northeast
[17:35] <coz_> trism,  same here ,, near pittsburgh
[17:35] <trism> coz_: :)
[17:42] <Daekdroom> Is anyone else having trouble with globalmenu losing application menus randomly?
[17:43] <coz_> Daekdroom,  sorry , I havent used unity for over a month
[17:43] <Daekdroom> Well, indicator-appmenu in classic gnome would do too :P
[17:44] <BUGabundo> Daekdroom: it did last time I added it
[18:03] <dupondje> compiz foobar :(
[18:05] <BUGabundo> yep
[18:24] <ChrisBuchholz> Hello. I just read on the planet that unity MT grab handles compiz plugin is out, but i dont have even though i've just installed a ton of updates. Should i install something extra for it to come?
[18:29] <jeffwheeler> Is it possible to use an old-style applet inside Unity? I don't know a command-line method to set the pulseaudio server, but the padevchooser applet can't come up in Unity because it's the old-style applet.
[18:30] <coz_> ChrisBuchholz,  mm  you might want to ask smspillaz on #compiz-dev channel
[18:30] <coz_> ChrisBuchholz,  he is the main developer on the project
[18:30] <ChrisBuchholz> coz_: okay, thanks
[18:31] <coz_> ChrisBuchholz,  also link to that post
[18:32] <ChrisBuchholz> coz_: yes
[18:36] <decoder> hey guys
[18:37] <decoder> i got quite a few problems since natty upgrade
[18:37] <decoder> first of all, my umts device stopped working (worked in 10.04/10.10)
[18:37] <decoder> it's a builtin ericsson F3507g and network manager previously supported it
[18:38] <decoder> it still shows it, but I can't connect... the card keeps sending creg 2,4 indicating it isn't associated with the net yet.. so might be a kernel problem
[18:38] <decoder> anyone else had this problem before?
[18:41] <decoder> second problem I have is with the sbackup-gtk package (though it might not be specific for that). I tried to remove it and get http://pastebin.com/sDdcrp7t
[18:41] <decoder> something with the icon cache of the mono theme
[18:41] <decoder> tried recreating the cache but it always fails
[19:10] <coz_>  /join #ubuntu-artwork
[19:32] <lvh> Hi
[19:32] <lvh> Every time I log in again I need to provide my password again
[19:32] <lvh> Errr
[19:32] <lvh> The *wifi* password :)
[19:32] <lvh> anyone know how to debug?
[19:34] <matrixa1> would like to check but natty doesn't let me click anything :P
[19:44] <Norbert> hello
[19:59] <bottiger_> can someone please post their unity xsession file?
[20:31] <genii-around> Are there any official or semi-official Natty logo which has the narwhal?
[20:35] <nperry> genii-around: might be worth asking in #ubuntu-design
[20:35] <genii-around> Ah, OK. Asked in #ubuntu-artwork but it's dead silence there
[20:36] <genii-around> Heh, no #ubuntu-design
[20:37] <nperry> I meant artwork, my bad
[21:27] <Andre_Gondim> after the last update my unity doesn't load
[21:29] <nit-wit> how about the classic, I updated from main and compiz was updated but still crashes
[21:50] <mmiller235> Hey, I tried running ubuntu 11.04 on real hardware and it gave me a regular gnome desktop and instead of unity I got a modified version of regular gnome
[21:52] <mmiller235> hello?
[21:55] <charlie-tca> Sounds like it did not find 3d then
[21:55] <charlie-tca> That is the fallback desktop session.
[21:55] <yofel> charlie-tca: he already left
[21:56] <charlie-tca> oops
[21:58] <mmiller235> I can't get unity to work on my AMD64 3000+ with some old nvidia card that used to work just fine
[22:01] <mmiller235> is anyone there?
[22:16] <zniavre> mm are you using nouveau drivers?
[22:16] <zniavre> :o(
[22:17] <alex_mayorga> all the notification icons look weird, how to fix?
[22:19] <yofel> zniavre: not currently, but what's your issue?
[22:20] <zniavre> yofel im sorry i wanted to answer a mmiller235 question but he left before ...
[22:21] <yofel> ah :S
[22:21] <zniavre> btw no issue with nouveau and unity (today magic update)
[22:21] <zniavre> alex_mayorga,  the "enveloppes" ?
[22:22] <alex_mayorga> zniavre: yup, mine is borked for bluetooth, wifi, keyboard layout, etc
[22:23] <zniavre> just trying blutooth and it's working ...
[22:24] <zniavre> re-loging maybe ?
[22:25] <alex_mayorga> this is my second restart and still look weird
[22:25] <alex_mayorga> is there a service or demon I can restart?
[22:26] <alex_mayorga> an icon cache to regenerate. perhaps?
[22:26] <alex_mayorga> let me try loggin off and on
[22:26] <alex_mayorga> BRB
[22:28] <alex_mayorga> didn't help
[22:28] <alex_mayorga> also on gdm I noticed the icon for universal access is also funky
[22:28] <alex_mayorga> tips?
[22:30] <zniavre> i also noticed the gdm icon but the indicator-tray looks ok here
[22:30] <alex_mayorga> who knows then, doesn't bother me that much as the menus still work, but I have to guess which one is what
[22:31] <zniavre> did you change icon/gtk theme ?
[22:31] <alex_mayorga> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1713430
[22:31] <alex_mayorga> maybe
[22:31] <alex_mayorga> no, I haven't touched theme at all
[22:33] <zniavre> try to reinstall the package
[22:34] <zniavre> ubuntu-mono  (if i remember)
[22:35] <alex_mayorga> let me try that
[22:36] <alex_mayorga> the same thing for the guy in the forum
[22:36] <alex_mayorga> gtk-update-icon-cache-3.0: The generated cache was invalid.
[22:36] <alex_mayorga> WARNING: icon cache generation failed for /usr/share/icons/ubuntu-mono-dark
[22:36] <alex_mayorga> gtk-update-icon-cache-3.0: The generated cache was invalid.
[22:36] <alex_mayorga> WARNING: icon cache generation failed for /usr/share/icons/ubuntu-mono-light
[22:37] <alex_mayorga> looks a lot like Bug #474111
[22:38] <alex_mayorga> what component to bug?
[22:39] <alex_mayorga> or other ideas?
[23:27] <BUGabundo> o/
[23:34] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: \o
[23:34] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo: got weird looking icons in the notification area?
[23:34] <BUGabundo> no
[23:35] <BUGabundo> but got weird fonts (squares) in some
[23:35] <BUGabundo> like parcelite
[23:35] <alex_mayorga> :S
[23:35] <alex_mayorga> can't believe I'm the only one with borked icons