[02:26] <`god> someone on ?
[02:30] <`god> ??
[02:30] <holstein> ???
[02:30] <holstein> normally, folks just go for it
[02:31] <holstein> like the topic implies
[02:31] <`god> i will need some help :)
[02:31] <holstein> will?
[02:31] <`god> i'll *
[02:31] <`god> :-j
[02:33] <`god> is someone who can help me or not :)) ? i just wanna ask something about  ubuntu 10.10 netbook edition!
[02:34] <holstein> `god: typically, folks join the channel
[02:34] <holstein> read the topic
[02:34] <holstein> and just ask
[02:34] <holstein> not sure if anyone can help or not yet
[02:34] <holstein> we'll see
[02:35] <holstein> i mean, i'll go ahead and say
[02:35] <holstein> i prefer the normal installation
[02:35] <holstein> on netbooks
[02:35] <`god> hmm
[02:35] <`god> just look at thist video
[02:35] <`god> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBwiKuE4-0U
[02:35] <`god> ;)
[02:35] <`god> something goes wrong and i don't know what !!!
[02:36] <holstein> `god: how did it run from the live CD ?
[02:36] <holstein> did you run updates yet?
[02:36] <holstein> are you online?
[02:37] <holstein> did it always do this after the install?
[02:37] <holstein> or did something break?
[02:37] <holstein> if i were you
[02:37] <holstein> i would download the normal ubuntu 10.10 CD
[02:37] <holstein> and try that
[02:37] <holstein> LIVE first
[02:37] <holstein> and then install over the netbook edition
[02:38] <`god> te problem is
[02:38] <`god> the normal 10.10
[02:38] <`god> works verry well no problem
[02:38] <`god> ;)
[02:38] <holstein> OK
[02:38] <`god> only this one netbook edition
[02:38] <holstein> so use that i say
[02:38] <`god> flashes like that
[02:38] <holstein> `god: there should be an option
[02:38] <holstein> at login
[02:39] <holstein> to use the normal desktop
[02:39] <holstein> `god: have you updated? since installing?
[02:39] <holstein> updating may fix it
[02:39] <`god> hmmm how can i updat if the screen flashes like that ??
[02:40] <holstein> `god: control+alt F1
[02:40] <holstein> then
[02:40] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[02:40] <holstein> then
[02:40] <`god> only when i open something the screen flashes
[02:40] <holstein> sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:40] <`god> if i open the terminal
[02:40] <holstein> right
[02:40] <`god> flashes
[02:40] <`god> ...
[02:41] <holstein> `god: control+alt+F1
[02:41] <holstein> like i suggested earlier
[02:41] <holstein> that will get you to a terminal
[02:41] <holstein> run
[02:41] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[02:41] <holstein> and s
[02:41] <holstein> sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:41] <holstein> then
[02:41] <holstein> sudo reboot
[02:41] <holstein> and see if its cool or not
[02:41] <holstein> and go from there
[02:42] <`god> hmm i have to try this :D
[02:42] <`god> thanks
[02:42] <holstein> `god: ?
[02:42] <holstein> try what?
[02:42] <holstein> updating?
[02:42] <holstein> nah, dont try it
[02:42] <holstein> just update
[02:42] <`god> alt+control+F1
[02:42] <`god> ...
[02:42] <holstein> right
[02:43] <`god> to see if it flashes again
[02:43] <holstein> OK
[02:43] <holstein> i see
[02:43] <holstein> yeah, go for it :)
[02:43] <`god> :p
[02:50] <`god> nice did't flashes i will try with the update to see what is happening
[02:51] <holstein> yeah, it wont flash there
[02:51] <holstein> thats why i sent you there to update
[02:52] <`god> :P
[02:52] <`god> ok ty
[02:53] <`god> see ya , right now i have to ho :D
[02:53] <`god> go*
[10:33] <s-fox> Hello.
[10:33] <duanedesign> s-fox: hello hello
[10:33] <s-fox> Hello duanedesign . How are you?
[10:33] <duanedesign> s-fox: congratulations!
[10:33] <duanedesign> :)
[10:35] <s-fox> Thank you duanedesign . How are you?
[10:39] <duanedesign> s-fox: mmmm, about the same
[10:40] <duanedesign> s-fox: got a few leads i am going to look into today
[10:50] <s-fox> duanedesign,  That is really good news.  I hope it goes well.
[10:59] <xardas008> how do i get my webbrowser (firefox) to synchronize it's bookmarkes with Ubuntu One?
[11:00] <s-fox> xardas008,  https://wiki.edubuntu.org/UbuntuOne/Tutorials/Bookmarks
[11:01] <s-fox> I know it is the edubuntu website, but it should be the same in ubuntu.
[11:02] <xardas008> ok and where do i see the bookmarks in Ubuntu One?
[11:05] <s-fox> xardas008,  I don't know.  I do not use ubuntu one myself.
[11:06] <xardas008> hm ok the i'll have to look on my other computer if they get synchronized
[13:14] <aztek> hello all
[13:15] <duanedesign> o/
[13:16] <aztek> how to install loosing groub ubuntu?
[13:16] <aztek> *grub
[13:19] <bdfhjk> hi!
[13:20] <aztek> bdfhjk: hi
[13:21] <duanedesign> aztek: you need to reinstall grub?
[13:22] <duanedesign> great grub2 resource is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[13:25] <aztek> duanedesign: ok, am trying....
[13:25] <aztek> tq
[15:11] <asterismo> hi everubody
[15:11] <asterismo> i need help with something
[15:11] <bdfhjk> Hi asterismo
[15:12] <asterismo> i have an old PC, a P4 2.8 GHz with 512 DDR memory
[15:12] <asterismo> i'm planning to use it for work
[15:12] <asterismo> and i want to mmaximize its performance
[15:12] <bdfhjk> hm...
[15:13] <zkriesse> Ok, what do you wanna know?
[15:13] <asterismo> so i'm confused about the better filesystem
[15:13] <asterismo> ext4, ext3, ext2, jfs, reiserfs
[15:14] <asterismo> which filesystem is a good compromise of speed and sfety?
[15:14] <asterismo> i heard that puppy linux uses ext2 filesystem... so that opened the questino to me
[15:14] <zkriesse> Uhm, I don't claim ANY knowledge of this but I think ext4 for some reason
[15:15] <asterismo> question*
[15:15] <holstein> ext4 is what most OS's default too
[15:16] <bdfhjk> if You use last kernel, I think ext4 is the best choice. But I am also not have more knowledge
[15:16] <asterismo> i wanted to know what filesistem os less cpu demanding
[15:16] <holstein> eh, its linux
[15:17] <holstein> i wouldnt sweat the file system much
[15:17] <holstein> the desktop environment would make an old box feel snappier
[15:18] <bdfhjk> My advice
[15:18] <bdfhjk> look what filesystem is used in xubuntu / fluxbuntu
[15:18] <holstein> yeah
[15:18] <holstein> and thats ext4 default
[15:18] <bdfhjk> and server type distros
[15:32] <asterismo> ok, thanks
[18:09] <s-fox> I will be back later.
[19:14] <kerneloops_> helo
[19:14] <kerneloops_> may I "apt-get remove --purge linux-headers-2.6.35-27 linux-headers-2.6.35-27-generic linux-image-2.6.35-27-generic" ?
[19:14] <hggdh> kerneloops_, as long as this is not your active kernel, yes
[19:16] <kerneloops_> yeah :)
[20:11] <akernan> I have a conky wireless question....I tried the #conky channel but no one was there
[20:12] <kerneloops_> back for more
[20:14] <akernan> me?
[20:14] <kerneloops_> So I am runnung Ubuntu server on a old machine and it's using 2.6.35-28-generic-pae Because my CPU is 32bit?
[20:14] <kerneloops_> running sry
[20:14] <holstein> kerneloops_: i did a couple install on my old EEEpc through the years
[20:15] <holstein> actually, quite a few
[20:15] <holstein> and several times
[20:15] <holstein> i got the PAE kernel by default
[20:15] <holstein> not sure why
[20:15] <kerneloops_> yeah :P
[20:15] <holstein> kerneloops_: i say
[20:15] <holstein> if it ain't broke
[20:15] <kerneloops_> holstein: because it's server edition and they think we will add more RAM
[20:15] <kerneloops_> :p
[20:16] <akernan> Can you help me with a conky permission issue
[20:16] <pleia2> akernan: you can just ask your question :)
[20:16] <holstein> akernan: whats the question?
[20:17] <kerneloops_> !ask
[20:17] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[20:17] <akernan> my wireless is wlan0, my conkyrc works with sudo but not as user
[20:17] <holstein> akernan: well, conky works right?
[20:17] <holstein> its just not spitting out info about your network connection?
[20:17] <kerneloops_> akernan: what do you want to with conky?
[20:17] <pleia2> some applications require you to be in a specific group to use them (I'm not familiar with conky though)
[20:17] <holstein> as normal user?
[20:18] <akernan> yup...I have conky monitoring other stuff....I have a problem with wireless variables
[20:19] <akernan> I get unk or zero when I run it as user
[20:19] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=563401
[20:19] <holstein> aybe
[20:19] <holstein> maybe*
[20:20] <holstein> eh, maybe not...
[20:20] <holstein> mabye #lubuntu ?
[20:21] <holstein> i would ask in one of the lightwieght distro channels
[20:21] <akernan> ok, thanks
[20:22] <kerneloops_> I have a silly question: can I change screen resolution in ubuntu server using /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[20:23] <bioterror> what kind of server has X ;)
[20:23] <holstein> yeah
[20:23] <kerneloops_> lol
[20:23] <holstein> you might be able to increase the font size somehow
[20:23] <kerneloops_> bioterror: if connected to monitor
[20:23] <kerneloops_> it's looking like 800x600
[20:23] <kerneloops_> :p
[20:23] <holstein> im usually running them headless
[20:23] <holstein> ASAP
[20:24] <holstein> ssh in
[20:24] <kerneloops_> holstein: I am too
[20:24] <holstein> and the fontsize in gnome terminal is easily changed
[20:24] <kerneloops_> but I was curious
[20:24] <kerneloops_> holstein: yes in client side
[20:25] <holstein> yup
[20:25] <kerneloops_> holstein: it just that I connect a monitor  to server and the resolution looked ugly
[20:25] <kerneloops_> thats why I asked about X :p
[20:25] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution
[20:26] <kerneloops_> oh
[20:26] <kerneloops_> :D
[20:26] <holstein> i would have a live CD handy though
[20:27] <yofel> hm, that's somewhat ancient, even the karmic instructions
[20:28] <holstein> yeah, grub is different now kerneloops_
[20:28] <yofel> you can find out what resolutions your card supports for your monitor if you go to the grub command line (from the boot menu) and run 'vbeinfo'
[20:28] <holstein> should still work though
[20:28] <kerneloops_> holstein: I dont have a /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:28] <yofel> after that set the res in /etc/default/grub as GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX
[20:29] <kerneloops_> yeah tks yofel
[20:29] <holstein> yeah, we should update that wiki
[20:29] <kerneloops_> :p ok i know the path
[20:29] <yofel> for example I have GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1280x800x32 for my thinkpad in there
[20:29] <kerneloops_> wait a sec
[20:29] <kerneloops_>  /etc/default/grub
[20:29] <kerneloops_> that I think
[20:30] <yofel> that you should have, the variable isn't there by default though, so just add a new line for it
[20:30] <kerneloops_> yeah
[20:30] <yofel> and don't set anything that 'vbeinfo' doesn't list
[20:30] <kerneloops_> yeah
[20:31] <kerneloops_> hm need to install it
[20:31] <yofel> kerneloops_: no
[20:31] <kerneloops_> vbeinfo command not found
[20:31] <yofel> you need to reboot, go to the grub menu, get the command line, and run vbeinfo *there*
[20:31] <kerneloops_> oh
[20:31] <yofel> iirc there was some other way to get that information too, but I can't remember it
[20:32] <kerneloops_> to get VESA thing right
[20:32] <kerneloops_> cant I just get that info from the terminal
[20:32] <yofel> maybe, I don't remember how though :/
[20:33] <kerneloops_> yofel: right now i dont have the monitor plugged in
[20:33] <kerneloops_> I need to right?
[20:33] <kerneloops_> :P
[20:33] <kerneloops_> or do i just need the graphic card
[20:34] <yofel> I think both, but what's your mointor res?
[20:34] <kerneloops_> the one im using is 1080 :p
[20:35] <kerneloops_> and i think that graphci card supports only 1024x768 16 bit
[20:35] <kerneloops_> (the old machine ofc)
[20:36] <yofel> hm, no idea then, that might work, but as setting the wrong FB res has potential of breaking things I would rather try vbeinfo when you can try it
[20:36] <yofel> maybe someone else has a better idea
[20:42] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution
[20:42] <holstein> :)
[20:42] <holstein> yofel: i quoted you
[20:42] <holstein> kinda
[20:42] <kerneloops_> lol
[20:42] <kerneloops_> so vbeinfo only works in grub terminal?
[20:42] <kerneloops_> and there is no other tool to find out resolutions?
[20:42] <holstein> kerneloops_: you can google
[20:43] <holstein> the device
[20:43] <holstein> maybe the vendor lists it ?
[20:44] <kerneloops_> lspci
[20:44] <kerneloops_> ?
[20:44] <kerneloops_> ok found it
[20:44] <kerneloops_> with sudo lshw
[20:44] <kerneloops_> description: VGA compatible controller
[20:44] <kerneloops_>              product: 264VT [Mach64 VT]
[20:45] <kerneloops_> it's an old ATI
[20:48] <kerneloops_> holstein: I think I found it
[20:48] <kerneloops_> !
[20:48] <kerneloops_> http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org/msg32945.html
[20:48] <kerneloops_> and in Xubuntu I used 16bit to make it faster :P
[20:55] <kerneloops_> holstein: so now how do I find out the VGA code
[20:56] <holstein> theres a table at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution
[20:56] <kerneloops_> i must be blind :)
[20:56] <holstein> well, it might not be what you're looking for...
[20:56] <kerneloops_> thanks a lot
[21:01]  * yofel reordered the page  a bit
[21:02] <yofel> ooops
[21:02] <yofel> I have the intoductions twice...
[21:03] <holstein> yeah, much better than what i had though yofel :)
[22:54] <Cheri703> asking on behalf of a guy at my ubuntu hour: is there any way to use itunes with wine?
[22:54] <holstein> Cheri703: AFAIK
[22:55] <Cheri703> he's apparently having trouble :/
[22:55] <holstein> http://www.ehow.com/how_5947302_install-itunes-ubuntu.html
[22:56] <holstein> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347
[22:58] <holstein> skrappjaw must be the iGuy :)
[22:58] <kerneloops_> ei holstein
[22:59] <skrappjaw> lol. no im sitting next to him
[22:59] <kerneloops_> im trying to make sound work in ubuntu server i typed aplay -l and it shows
[22:59] <kerneloops_> card 0: SI7018 [SiS SI7018], device 0: trident_dx_nx [Trident 4DWave]
[22:59] <kerneloops_>   Subdevices: 32/32
[22:59] <kerneloops_> 32 subdevices??
[22:59] <holstein> kerneloops_: theres a cvlc
[22:59] <kerneloops_> cvlc?
[22:59] <holstein> that looks right
[22:59] <holstein> mostly
[22:59] <holstein> yeah, try playing something
[22:59] <kerneloops_> holstein: hm many audio channels are muted
[23:00] <kerneloops_> o.o
[23:00] <holstein> kerneloops_: check out alsamixer too
[23:00] <kerneloops_> ye
[23:00] <holstein> and dont trust the labels
[23:00] <kerneloops_> unmute all
[23:00] <kerneloops_> ?
[23:00] <kerneloops_> lol
[23:00] <kerneloops_> just a note: I know the sound works
[23:00] <kerneloops_> used it in xubuntu
[23:00] <holstein> cool
[23:01] <kerneloops_> holstein: xmms2 play file
[23:03] <kerneloops_> holstein: im trying to play a .mp3 maybe I need the decoder?
[23:03] <kerneloops_> :p
[23:03] <holstein> kerneloops_: try something friendlier
[23:04] <holstein> .wav maybe?
[23:04] <holstein> .ogg
[23:05] <kerneloops_> holstein: gonna try openoffice .wav
[23:05] <kerneloops_> hm /usr/share/sounds/
[23:05] <kerneloops_> cd alsa
[23:06] <holstein> locate *.ogg
[23:06] <kerneloops_> nothing
[23:07] <kerneloops_> holstein: it's ubuntu server :p
[23:08] <kerneloops_> there is mpg123
[23:08] <holstein> wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1172535/groove.ogg
[23:19]  * holstein taking a nap..