[08:05] <kim0> Morning everyone
[08:43] <flaccid> evening :p
[08:43] <kim0> flaccid: ah hehe :)
[08:44] <flaccid> still working, but what can you do heh
[08:46] <ubuntucloud187> hi
[08:47] <flaccid> lo
[08:47] <ubuntucloud187> I am supposing to vuild a small private cloud with my current resources
[08:47] <ubuntucloud187> Does anyone have any usefull tutorial?
[08:49] <flaccid> ubuntucloud187: yes follow the doc
[08:50] <kim0> ubuntucloud187: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/CDInstall
[08:51] <ubuntucloud187> tnx a lot
[08:51] <ubuntucloud187> have you tried yourself?
[08:52] <ubuntucloud187> I am going to develop specific knwoledge integration framework on the private cloud
[08:52] <ubuntucloud187> DB is mysql
[08:52] <ubuntucloud187> and communication is based on SOAP
[08:52] <ubuntucloud187> and wsdl
[08:53] <ubuntucloud187> the file type is xml
[08:53] <flaccid> its the same as any computer
[08:54] <ubuntucloud187> and about web service platform
[08:54] <ubuntucloud187> which technology is used to support web service?
[08:54] <ubuntucloud187> apache or else?
[08:55] <flaccid> anything you like
[08:56] <ubuntucloud187> ok
[08:57] <ubuntucloud187> and the security of connection?
[08:57] <flaccid> instances are virtual machines so you can do whatever
[08:57] <flaccid> what connection?
[08:57] <ubuntucloud187> between VMs
[08:57] <ubuntucloud187> and between user and cloud controller
[08:57] <flaccid> its the same as any network node
[08:58] <flaccid> you obviously don't give out the cloud creds
[08:58] <ubuntucloud187> Users should get an access to cloud resources via portal or?
[08:58] <flaccid> thats up to you
[08:58] <ubuntucloud187> no
[08:58] <ubuntucloud187> It is in house using purpose cloud
[08:59] <flaccid> it provides a cloud, not ACL for users etc.
[08:59] <flaccid> thats your job
[08:59] <ubuntucloud187> yes
[08:59] <ubuntucloud187> and I have a scientific (not technical) question?
[08:59] <ubuntucloud187> and I have a scientific (not technical) question.
[09:00] <ubuntucloud187> How cloud computing could be innovative at the integration of information
[09:00] <flaccid> sorry, i don't understand
[09:00] <ubuntucloud187> for instance in collaborative production system?
[09:01] <ubuntucloud187> I mean the scientific motivation to use a cloud
[09:01] <flaccid> sure, you can do that
[09:01] <flaccid> many scientists use clouds to compute
[09:01] <flaccid> and collab and what not
[09:01] <ubuntucloud187> Yes, that's right
[09:02] <ubuntucloud187> for instance if I am going to do research on the cloud based application development
[09:03] <ubuntucloud187> What could be motivation of using the cloud platform
[09:03] <ubuntucloud187> or clearly research question due to cloud?
[09:04] <ubuntucloud187> in elsecase it seems to be moving from one technology to another,
[09:04] <ubuntucloud187> is there any scientific challenge which could be solved by use of cloud.
[09:05] <ubuntucloud187> of course I know the benefits of scalability, accesibility and so many others such as cost reduction and ...
[09:05] <ubuntucloud187> but they are mostly business factors
[09:05] <ubuntucloud187> not a real scientific challenge
[09:07] <flaccid> i don't have the time to answer such open questions sorry
[09:07] <flaccid> others might
[09:08] <flaccid> this channel is about ubuntu in the cloud
[09:08] <ubuntucloud187> tnx
[09:13] <TeTeT> ubuntucloud187: from what I know, cloud computing certainly does not alter computability, it does not tackle new problems, it provides a way to be more efficient, that's all
[09:14] <ubuntucloud187> I think the same
[09:14] <TeTeT> ubuntucloud187: though cloud systems such as hadoop make it feasible to wade through TB of data, that were in practice unwieldy with traditional systems. But it did not expand in a theoretical way, just what can be done on contemporary cheap hardware
[09:15] <ubuntucloud187> yes you are right
[09:15] <ubuntucloud187> how about specialization of cloud based services
[09:16] <ubuntucloud187> have you ever seen an specific business customized service based on cloud
[09:16] <ubuntucloud187> I mean using for instance salesorce
[09:16] <ubuntucloud187> I mean using for instance salesforce
[09:16] <ubuntucloud187> not in the field of computer science
[09:16] <flaccid> cloud is one of the most abused buzz words
[09:16] <ubuntucloud187> using as computing and so on
[09:17] <flaccid> i work at RightScale and the biggest customers are FB app providers or iphone or whatever..
[09:19] <ubuntucloud187> It never heard rightscale
[09:19] <ubuntucloud187> but I am checking the website now
[09:20] <ubuntucloud187> I found the UEC useful for creating the private cloud, but before going to practical phase of implementation
[09:21] <ubuntucloud187> it is always a big question in my mind
[09:22] <ubuntucloud187> what is the motivation for non-computer scientists to work on cloud based application development?
[09:22] <flaccid> you might want to consider using a public cloud instead
[09:22] <flaccid> i don't have time to answer those kind of questions sorry; someone else might
[13:29] <kim0> smoser: Hi o/ Please ping me once you wake up, since you're on first for Ubuntu Cloud Days .. Thanks man
[14:05] <smoser> kim0, i'm up.
[14:05] <kim0> smoser: great .. just checking ..
[14:05] <kim0> your session is in 2 hours
[14:05] <smoser> i have a meeting running right up to my CloudDays presentation but i'll be there.
[14:05] <kim0> cool np
[14:06] <kim0> smoser: would be great if you can quickly read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom/ClassBot (Question Handling) section
[14:06] <kim0> basically the !q and !y to the bot to take and answer questions
[14:06] <ahs3> kim0: what's the url for yesterday's cloud days irc logs, please?
[14:07] <kim0> you'll need to join #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat and if you need help #ubuntu-classroom-backstage
[14:07] <kim0> smoser: ^
[14:07] <kim0> ahs3: Hi .. Just posted direct links to every session at http://foss-boss.blogspot.com/2011/03/day-2-ubuntu-cloud-days.html
[14:07] <ahs3> kim0: brilliant.  thx.
[14:12] <TeTeT> kim0: I need to run an errand before giving my session, hope I will be back in time. should start in 2:45
[14:13] <kim0> TeTeT: okie hope you'll be there in time .. Thanks :)
[14:27] <keyz182> Hi, I'm in the middle of setting up a cloud for a project I'm working on, and I've run into the issue outlined here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1712965. Basically, I can't seem to add a bonded connection to a bridge. Has anyone here tried/done this, or know how to?
[14:41] <koolhead17> hi all
[14:44] <kim0> koolhead17: howdy
[14:44] <koolhead17> kim0, hello sir. doing good
[14:44] <kim0> great :)
[14:47] <keyz182> Hi there, anyone here tried running UEC over a bonded connection?
[15:57] <kim0> smoser: Reminder ... session starting in 2 mins
[15:59] <kim0> smoser: btw might be worth it to start the session a little slow .. explaining what's uec, ami, instance ...etc
[16:44] <kim0> TeTeT: please let me know once you're here and ready for your session
[16:53] <TeTeT> kim0: just arrived
[16:54] <kim0> TeTeT: awesome JIT :)
[16:54] <TeTeT> kim0: yeah, so I didn't get to know the price for the new kitchen, which is probably good ;)
[16:54] <kim0> lol haha :)
[16:54] <kim0> so I owe you a kitchen :)
[16:55] <TeTeT> he he
[17:05] <Edulix> hi people
[17:05] <Edulix> hey kim0 =)
[17:05] <kim0> Hello
[17:05] <kim0> Edulix: hey o/
[17:06] <kim0> Edulix: You start in two hours man .. ready ?
[17:06] <Edulix> ready! :P
[17:08] <kim0> awesome :)
[17:34] <kim0> Daviey: Hi o/
[17:34] <kim0> ready for the session in 30mins and all ?
[17:36] <Daviey> kim0, no :)
[17:36] <Daviey> still prepping :)
[17:36] <kim0> hehe .. last minute guy eh :)
[17:36] <kim0> Daviey prepares to knock em dead
[17:40] <sveiss> While we're in a lull... just wanted to say thank you to kim0 and the instructors for organising these sessions. I'm in the middle of planning the migration of an existing EC2 cluster to Ubuntu, and the sessions have been really helpful so far.
[17:41] <kim0> sveiss: sounds great :)
[17:41] <kim0> sveiss btw if that's a production environment, canonical offers commercial support if you'll need that
[17:41] <sveiss> we're migrating to Puppet too, so I'll be watching the next session with close interest too :)
[17:41] <kim0> cool :)
[17:42] <sveiss> yeah, the availability of support if we need it is one of the reasons we're migrating
[17:42] <kim0> sounds good
[17:45] <semiosis> ubuntu+cloudinit+puppet rocks, really looking forward to next session
[17:48] <sveiss> *nods* that's been my experience so far. I'm really looking forward to getting our new prod cluster rolled out, my life will be so much easier