| kristian-aalborg | after building a (hopefully) working config, can I just "make menuconfig" and then Roosevelt stuff again? | 00:05 |
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| jjohansen | generally yes | 00:08 |
| kristian-aalborg | cool | 00:10 |
| kristian-aalborg | I guess that building kernels is a fairly good way to get the building process straight | 00:11 |
| jjohansen | hehe, yeah its a great way :) | 00:13 |
| kristian-aalborg | I might put a tutorial together... not on an expert level, obviously... but just how to get things running a bit better | 00:16 |
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| kristian-aalborg | will this building method work on any debian-derived distro? | 00:44 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen: here is the result of my test | 01:02 |
| DrDetroit | 2.6.32-28-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 10 21:21:01 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux | 01:02 |
| DrDetroit | 1:40, 2 users, load average: 0.42, 1.03, 1.27 | 01:02 |
| DrDetroit | but its getting pretty poor performance | 01:03 |
| DrDetroit | I thought 28 was good | 01:03 |
| DrDetroit | I sure don't know what to think or do anymore | 01:03 |
| DrDetroit | i guess i will go back to 27 i think i still have that on my menu | 01:06 |
| DrDetroit | Do you know how long folks have been reporting this issue? | 01:07 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: I had a user on the weekend reporting a similar issue but we didn't track it down | 01:20 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: I am not even sure it is the same problem, but the symptoms are similar | 01:21 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen: I am sort of unsure on how to proceed | 01:25 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: lets give -27 a good run and see if you see problems there | 01:26 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen: Ok I will do that | 01:26 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: from last night bisects I would say we weren't giving the problem enough time to surface | 01:27 |
| DrDetroit | I have been running that rotating torus screensaver | 01:27 |
| DrDetroit | I can tell when things slow down after awhile | 01:27 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: there is also the possibility the problem stems from something else that was updated at the same time as the kernel | 01:27 |
| DrDetroit | it ls almost like an old fashioned windows memory leak | 01:27 |
| DrDetroit | I have been running xchat, a terminal window, 3 instances olf mudlet (a mud client) and firefox | 01:28 |
| jjohansen | yes, except in the one I was chasing on the weekend there was plenty of free memory | 01:28 |
| jjohansen | we should check that when you see the slow down | 01:28 |
| DrDetroit | ok | 01:28 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: also we should try killing running processes one by one and see if that clears up the problem | 01:29 |
| DrDetroit | Mem: 444440k total, 331720k used, 112720k free, 17080k buffers | 01:30 |
| DrDetroit | Swap: 1299448k total, 0k used, 1299448k free, 151360k cached | 01:30 |
| DrDetroit | that is current with only xchat and a terminal window running | 01:30 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: so yeah good atm, and if we see the slow down check again | 01:30 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen: its slow now | 01:31 |
| jjohansen | before we were just doing a bisect hunt for a kernel regression, this time we will be much more thorough | 01:32 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen: with those stats | 01:32 |
| jjohansen | ah | 01:32 |
| jjohansen | what does top report | 01:32 |
| DrDetroit | that was top | 01:32 |
| DrDetroit | 950 root 20 0 111m 39m 8692 S 5.8 9.1 25:24.79 Xorg | 01:33 |
| DrDetroit | 1708 bobp 20 0 2548 1192 904 R 2.6 0.3 0:00.44 top | 01:33 |
| DrDetroit | 1533 bobp 20 0 46296 12m 9724 S 1.3 3.0 0:32.65 gnome-terminal | 01:33 |
| DrDetroit | 223 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:05.54 usb-storage | 01:33 |
| DrDetroit | 1267 root 20 0 3612 1216 1036 S 0.3 0.3 0:05.28 hald-addon-stor | 01:33 |
| DrDetroit | 1396 root 20 0 5180 968 688 S 0.3 0.2 0:08.67 udisks-daemon | 01:33 |
| DrDetroit | 1581 bobp 20 0 49604 19m 12m S 0.3 4.5 1:35.80 xchat-gnome | 01:33 |
| DrDetroit | that is the maddening part | 01:33 |
| jjohansen | okay and the load figures | 01:33 |
| DrDetroit | nothing really shows up hogging cpu or memory | 01:33 |
| jjohansen | okay | 01:33 |
| DrDetroit | Cpu(s): 7.2%us, 3.6%sy, 0.0%ni, 89.3%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st | 01:34 |
| DrDetroit | thats from top | 01:34 |
| DrDetroit | its crappy poor at 90 percent idle | 01:34 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen: let me proppse this | 01:34 |
| DrDetroit | I will reboot and go back to 27 but before i do that, i will double check my hardware to make sure it is all working properly including memory | 01:35 |
| DrDetroit | i think it is | 01:35 |
| DrDetroit | but i can double check | 01:35 |
| DrDetroit | then i will boot back to 27 and run that for a while | 01:35 |
| DrDetroit | I can report back later this evening or tomorrow early | 01:36 |
| jjohansen | well yes that is worth doing, which kernel are you running /me thought you were on .27 | 01:36 |
| DrDetroit | whichever you prefer | 01:36 |
| DrDetroit | currently this is 28 which i thought was good | 01:36 |
| jjohansen | okay, well lets run a few commands first | 01:36 |
| jjohansen | do | 01:37 |
| jjohansen | sar 1 100 | 01:37 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen:apparetnly its not installed | 01:39 |
| DrDetroit | i will install it hold on | 01:39 |
| jjohansen | sudo apt-get install sysstat | 01:39 |
| DrDetroit | its running | 01:41 |
| DrDetroit | it looks like it is repeating the same stuff, is that what you wanted | 01:41 |
| jjohansen | yes, look at the iowait column | 01:42 |
| jjohansen | what kind of figures are you seeing | 01:42 |
| DrDetroit | Average: all 37.54 7.69 11.41 0.28 0.00 43.08 | 01:43 |
| DrDetroit | the are all 0.00 | 01:43 |
| DrDetroit | i tanke that back i see one 7 a couple 6's and a couple 1's but the majority are 0.00 | 01:44 |
| jjohansen | alright so we aren't seeing io backup causing the slow down | 01:44 |
| jjohansen | not a big deal, a few low numbers isn't going to be a problem | 01:44 |
| DrDetroit | the average is .28 | 01:44 |
| DrDetroit | i did run itop but i really didnt understand what it was telling me | 01:45 |
| jjohansen | if we where getting high numbers with high idle, it would indicate that processes are spending all their time blocked on io | 01:45 |
| kristian-aalborg | will subsequent builds be significantly faster? | 01:45 |
| jjohansen | kristian-aalborg: they can be, it depends on what make determines needs to be rebuilt, based off Makefile dependencies and time stamps | 01:46 |
| jjohansen | so if you change a header file that gets included everywhere, everything needs to be rebuilt | 01:46 |
| * kristian-aalborg screams! | 01:46 | |
| jjohansen | change a small section of a .c file and likely only 1 file gets rebuilt | 01:47 |
| kristian-aalborg | it *still* does not work :( | 01:47 |
| jjohansen | kristian-aalborg: are you doing make clean? | 01:47 |
| kristian-aalborg | still goes straight to reboot | 01:47 |
| kristian-aalborg | no, fdr clean | 01:48 |
| jjohansen | ah fdr clean will clean out the old build | 01:48 |
| kristian-aalborg | no no... I start out with fdr clean, then cp over the config file | 01:48 |
| jjohansen | if you want to do an incremental build with the build system do rm debian/stamps/stamps-build-XXXX | 01:49 |
| jjohansen | kristian-aalborg: right, 1 clean is needed, after which clean can be skipped if you want to do incremental builds | 01:49 |
| kristian-aalborg | I thought I was going to want that, but not before my kernel works :/ | 01:50 |
| jjohansen | however depending on your config changes you may need to do a clean | 01:50 |
| kristian-aalborg | jjohansen: obviously, something is still very wrong with the .debs I produce | 01:51 |
| jjohansen | I am not sure how well the dependencies between the config file and the rest of the build system are tracked | 01:51 |
| jjohansen | kristian-aalborg: :( | 01:51 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: can you try running vmstat | 01:51 |
| DrDetroit | sure | 01:51 |
| DrDetroit | procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ----cpu---- | 01:52 |
| DrDetroit | r b swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id wa | 01:52 |
| DrDetroit | 1 0 0 77948 27512 172400 0 0 31 6 318 1975 46 10 44 1 | 01:52 |
| kristian-aalborg | build system is Lubuntu 10.4, box to use kernel on is Ubuntu 10.4... should be the same | 01:52 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: what processes are running | 01:53 |
| jjohansen | kristian-aalborg: what problems are you seeing with your .debs? | 01:53 |
| DrDetroit | three terminal windows, xchat | 01:53 |
| DrDetroit | and i just closed 1 terminal window | 01:53 |
| kristian-aalborg | the debs look fine, I md5summed them too before install | 01:54 |
| DrDetroit | of course there is the stuff on my panel | 01:54 |
| kristian-aalborg | well, one of them... | 01:54 |
| DrDetroit | time date, sound etc | 01:54 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: try this log out of your X session and log back in, let see if reset a session, restarting the panels etc, has an effect | 01:55 |
| kristian-aalborg | jjohansen: it's what happens when I try to boot the kernel that I installed from those debs that things get weird :/ | 01:55 |
| DrDetroit | ok | 01:55 |
| jjohansen | kristian-aalborg: still rebooting? | 01:55 |
| DrDetroit | brb | 01:56 |
| kristian-aalborg | jjohansen: yes | 01:56 |
| jjohansen | kristian-aalborg: and you are just changing the config, no other patches right? | 01:57 |
| kristian-aalborg | I did sudo dpkg -i linux-* this time, would be the same I reckon | 01:57 |
| kristian-aalborg | yes, I use the config that's in /boot on the old box | 01:57 |
| jjohansen | kristian-aalborg: can you send me the config, I will compare and try building a lucid kernel for you | 01:58 |
| kristian-aalborg | http://pastebin.com/LUM4xbu9 this is what I get when I diff the two files | 01:59 |
| jjohansen | kristian-aalborg: diff your config and the lucid config? | 02:00 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen: it is significently worse | 02:00 |
| DrDetroit | and my desktop has changed themes | 02:00 |
| DrDetroit | hehe | 02:00 |
| kristian-aalborg | sorry for being unclear | 02:01 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: interesting, want to look at top and sar output again | 02:01 |
| DrDetroit | sure | 02:01 |
| kristian-aalborg | this is the diff between the config from the working config and the non-working one - sent from the old machine | 02:01 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen: here is top | 02:02 |
| DrDetroit | Tasks: 140 total, 1 running, 139 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie | 02:03 |
| DrDetroit | Cpu(s): 21.9%us, 9.4%sy, 24.1%ni, 43.8%id, 0.6%wa, 0.1%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st | 02:03 |
| DrDetroit | Mem: 444440k total, 385744k used, 58696k free, 29016k buffers | 02:03 |
| DrDetroit | Swap: 1299448k total, 0k used, 1299448k free, 194280k cached | 02:03 |
| jjohansen | kristian-aalborg: thats it? one not having cgroups shouldn't make any difference | 02:03 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: and sar | 02:03 |
| DrDetroit | Average: all 29.36 0.00 7.80 0.44 0.00 62.41 | 02:03 |
| DrDetroit | iowaits ave .44 | 02:04 |
| kristian-aalborg | yes, it is weird | 02:04 |
| jjohansen | alright | 02:04 |
| DrDetroit | top was with sar running | 02:04 |
| jjohansen | kristian-aalborg: can you send me the working config | 02:05 |
| kristian-aalborg | http://pastebin.com/XZjV4Fup | 02:05 |
| kristian-aalborg | here :) | 02:05 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen: we can continue this tomorrow if you would like to work with others tonite | 02:06 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: its fine, we can keep going if you want | 02:06 |
| kristian-aalborg | I should get some sleep... 3AM here... | 02:07 |
| DrDetroit | hehe | 02:07 |
| kristian-aalborg | jjohansen: we could continue later, unless you're already building? | 02:07 |
| jjohansen | kristian-aalborg: yeah I kicked it off, but we can continue later it will take a bit to build | 02:08 |
| kristian-aalborg | depends on what "a bit" is on your system - on mine, it's usually hours ;) | 02:09 |
| jjohansen | kristian-aalborg: say 20-30min | 02:09 |
| kristian-aalborg | I think the smart thing for me is going to bed then | 02:10 |
| kristian-aalborg | 30 mins of building | 02:11 |
| DrDetroit | sleep....sleep....sleep | 02:11 |
| * DrDetroit giggles | 02:11 | |
| jjohansen | hehe | 02:11 |
| kristian-aalborg | then spending either one hour trying to figure out what went wrong or the rest of the night tweaking ;) | 02:11 |
| kristian-aalborg | jjohansen: I'll catch up later, just remember not to delete the files ;) | 02:14 |
| jjohansen | kristian-aalborg: :) | 02:15 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: alright give the -27 kernel a spin | 02:15 |
| kristian-aalborg | see ya, and thanks for helping out | 02:17 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen: ok will do | 02:19 |
| DrDetroit | back later on | 02:19 |
| DrDetroit | with a report | 02:19 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen: ok on 27 will let it run for a few hours with hypertorus screensaver running | 02:28 |
| DrDetroit | I have my normal apps open and running also | 02:28 |
| === Theravadan|afk is now known as Theravadan | ||
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: okay I'll check back in a few hours | 02:46 |
| === DrDetroit is now known as DrD_away | ||
| === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero | ||
| === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero | ||
| fairuz | Hi morning | 07:40 |
| jjohansen | morning | 07:42 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: can i start with my questions? :D | 07:42 |
| jjohansen | sure | 07:42 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: about /usr/src/linux-headers-xxxxxxx, I need one for each kernel i compile? | 07:43 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: because i see files in /lib/modules/xxxxxxxx/build point to the headers folder | 07:44 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: define need, they are good to have but the headers aren't "needed" to run the kernel | 07:44 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: yes, i mean for compiling external module | 07:45 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: for external module, i need all of those right? | 07:46 |
| jjohansen | yes, the headers are needed for compiling external modules | 07:46 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: and i suppose there are make install_headers to create this folder? | 07:47 |
| fairuz | :D | 07:47 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: the target is actually headers_install | 07:48 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: or maybe headers_install_all | 07:49 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: I think I already tried that, but no idea where the files go after it finishes | 07:49 |
| jjohansen | for the work I've done I've never needed to do it, but yeah its there | 07:49 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: I compile the kernel with custom name and it boots ok | 07:53 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: just there is no display right now, which I think it's normal because I'm not installing the modules yet | 07:54 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: sounds about right | 07:54 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: i just get the plain console. I will try now to use sshfs to install the modules. I tried it yesterday but got some problems | 07:55 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: something about permissions | 07:56 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: hrmm, I think I might know what you hit, give me a minute to find it | 07:56 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: http://blog.sumostyle.net/robg/2006/08/07/some-useful-sshfs-options/ | 08:05 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: ok i'll take a look at it | 08:05 |
| jjohansen | you may need allow_root or allow_other, I can't remember which | 08:05 |
| jjohansen | I think I did the mount as my regular user and I had to use allow_root, to get the install to work | 08:05 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: i'll try that | 08:09 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: have to reboot with my working kernel first :D | 08:09 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: it's not a simple thing this whole kernel thing. To get it booted is one thing. To get it works with all the modules is other thing. | 08:11 |
| jjohansen | yeah it can be a pain, there are reasons to like monolithic kernels | 08:12 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: so you do sshfs without sudo ? | 08:16 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: that I can't remember, the remote install I was doing where a while ago | 08:17 |
| jjohansen | I know I did sudo make install ; sudo make modules_install | 08:17 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: ok. | 08:18 |
| jjohansen | but I think the fuse mount was probably done as a user | 08:18 |
| jjohansen | I know I did the compile as just a plain user | 08:18 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: it dont let me to use -o, I need to edit /etc/fuse.conf | 08:18 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: yeah, I think I had to do that too | 08:19 |
| jjohansen | getting it setup was a bit of a pain | 08:19 |
| jjohansen | but it worked well once I had it | 08:19 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: one thing i find it weird, before it asking the remote password. It asks for my password 3 times. Each time. | 08:20 |
| jjohansen | hrmm, I don't remember it doing that, but its possible, /me needs to go back and try doing a remote install like this again some time | 08:21 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: it's installing the modules now :D | 08:52 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: I use sudo sshfs -o allow_other,default_permissions <host> <mountpoint> | 08:53 |
| jjohansen | yeah that sounds like it should work | 08:54 |
| === DrD_away is now known as DrDetroit | ||
| DrDetroit | and good morning to all | 08:54 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: i only have around 400Mb left on the SD, hope it's enough | 08:54 |
| fairuz | DrDetroit: morning | 08:54 |
| jjohansen | morning DrDetroit | 08:55 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen: I have run the 27 kernel since falling asleep last night | 08:55 |
| DrDetroit | it seems ok , have not seen any issues yet | 08:55 |
| jjohansen | hrmm okay | 08:55 |
| DrDetroit | let me open up a few more apps and see what happens | 08:55 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: It finishes :D | 09:05 |
| jjohansen | :) | 09:05 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: but I think I should change the symlink for build and source | 09:06 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: right now it points to the mounpoint | 09:06 |
| jjohansen | hehe, yeah that might be an idea | 09:06 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: maybe I should change it directly to my source folder in the build machine? | 09:07 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: since it's accessible by network | 09:07 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: that should work | 09:08 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: i will be happy if this works :D | 09:08 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: hmm still no luck. I got FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.35-980-omap4-fairuz/modules.dep: No such file or directory | 09:24 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: but the file is there! | 09:24 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: try running depmod -ae | 09:24 |
| fairuz | WARNING: -e needs -E or -F | 09:25 |
| fairuz | FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.35-980-omap4-fairuz/modules.dep.temp for writing: Permission denied | 09:25 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: sudo depmod -a | 09:26 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: ok done. what it does? | 09:27 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: i reboot now? | 09:27 |
| jjohansen | depmod - program to generate modules.dep and map files. | 09:27 |
| jjohansen | sure give it a try | 09:27 |
| kristian-aalborg | jjohansen: hi again | 09:32 |
| jjohansen | morning kristian-aalborg | 09:32 |
| DrDetroit | morning kristian-aalborg | 09:33 |
| kristian-aalborg | morning | 09:33 |
| kristian-aalborg | what time is it where you people live? | 09:33 |
| jjohansen | 02:34 | 09:34 |
| fairuz | >:o | 09:34 |
| DrDetroit | 4:34 | 09:34 |
| jjohansen | kristian-aalborg: kernel.ubuntu.com/~jj/linux-image-2.6.32-31-generic_2.6.32-31.60~kristian_i386.deb | 09:34 |
| kristian-aalborg | ah, east and west coast I suppose | 09:35 |
| kristian-aalborg | jjohansen: thanks | 09:35 |
| DrDetroit | central here, I live n the Ozark mountains of Arkansas | 09:35 |
| kristian-aalborg | I have a load of wires all over the place atm, it will be a moment before I can download anything | 09:35 |
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| fairuz | jjohansen: still got FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.35-980-omap4-fairuz/modules.dep: No such file or directory | 09:39 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: hrmm, is /lib mounted, at this point? | 09:40 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: I have no idea of this | 09:41 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: how is the filesystem layed out are you using an initramfs/initrd is /lib in the root filesystem | 09:42 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: I have no idea about initramfs, but now when it finishes botting, i can go in /lib yes | 09:47 |
| jjohansen | what does mount show | 09:47 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: oh there is not /lib | 09:47 |
| fairuz | proc on /proc type proc (rw) | 09:48 |
| fairuz | none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) | 09:48 |
| fairuz | none on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) | 09:48 |
| fairuz | none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw) | 09:48 |
| fairuz | none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw) | 09:48 |
| fairuz | none on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755) | 09:48 |
| fairuz | none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620) | 09:48 |
| fairuz | none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev) | 09:48 |
| fairuz | none on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755) | 09:48 |
| fairuz | none on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) | 09:48 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: hmm ... but why with other kenel, it loads ok | 09:51 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: hrmm I not sure | 09:51 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: wait i go restart all machines and retry | 09:53 |
| DrDetroit | well now, that was strange, my screensaver went off, but returned back to the regular screen | 09:59 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: is this something to do with initrd? | 10:01 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: at boot, i load uImage and also uInitrd | 10:01 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: yep, what files are in /boot/ | 10:02 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: its not unheard of for the screen saver to have odd bugs | 10:02 |
| DrDetroit | hehe, i know, its a computer, it's all smoke and magic to me | 10:02 |
| jjohansen | if you can replicate it is worth filing a bug over | 10:02 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: there are some vmlinuz files, system.map files, initrd.img-xxxxx | 10:03 |
| DrDetroit | naw | 10:03 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: so you need to make an initrd | 10:03 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: there are files for my old kernel, no files for my new kernel | 10:03 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: ah ok.. any help to do that? | 10:04 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: no files at all or no initrd | 10:04 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: what this thing do? it's ubuntu thing or kernel thing? | 10:04 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: hrmmm well sort of both | 10:04 |
| jjohansen | the kernel doesn't need one but one is often used for flexibility | 10:04 |
| jjohansen | ubuntu uses one | 10:05 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: i have for example initrd.img-2.6.35-980-omap4 but no initrd.img-2.6.35-980-omap4-fairuz | 10:05 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: I am going to assume its an initramfs | 10:05 |
| fairuz | and also i have vmlinuz-2.6.35-980-omap4 but no vmlinuz-2.6.35-980-omap4-fairuz | 10:05 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: same thing applies for System.map and abi files | 10:06 |
| jjohansen | sudo update-initramfs -ck 2.6.35-980-omap4-fairuz | 10:06 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: ok | 10:06 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: hrmm, do you do a make install? | 10:07 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: or did you just copy the vmlinuz | 10:07 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: nope, just make xxx_defconfig and make uImage | 10:07 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: then i just copy the uImage | 10:07 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: generally make install will copy those as well as the kernel | 10:07 |
| jjohansen | you could use the same sshfs trick to do make install as make modules install | 10:08 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: also update-initramfs isn't the only way to make a ramdisk but it is the way ubuntu uses, I am not up to date on other methods | 10:10 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: i have now initrd.img for my kernel | 10:14 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: it still not working. i will try the make install now | 10:16 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: make install and then remake the ramdisk | 10:16 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: instead of -ck use -uk | 10:17 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: actually it generate the initrd but it gives this grep: /boot/config-2.6.35-980-omap4-fairuz: No such file or directory | 10:18 |
| fairuz | i should copy my config to /boot folder first? | 10:18 |
| fairuz | or make install will do that | 10:18 |
| jjohansen | hrmm, configs shouldn't be needed but system.map and abi I believe are | 10:19 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: but if its complaining about the config missing if make install doesn't put it there copy it yourself | 10:20 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: ok understood | 10:22 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: sudo install will not recompile the kernel i suppose? | 10:28 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: sudo make install should not recompile the kernel | 10:29 |
| jjohansen | well at least as long as you haven't changed any timestamps | 10:29 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: if both machines have different time? :D | 10:31 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: because right now i'm seeing a lot of CC | 10:31 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: which i think it's in the process of the compiling | 10:31 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: its the files time stamps that should be important, I'm not sure why you would be seeing lots of CC | 10:31 |
| jjohansen | which is indeed compiling | 10:32 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: well i will let it compile then ( which will take forever since it's compiling on the target machine ) | 10:32 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: So if I understand well, I should do make install that will install necessary files to /boot | 10:33 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: it should | 10:34 |
| fairuz | jjohansen: and this file is used during the boot i suppose? | 10:34 |
| jjohansen | fairuz: or for setting up the module dependencies, building the initramfs (which is used during boot) | 10:35 |
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| * jj-afk is going to be off for a bit | 10:38 | |
| DrDetroit | jj-afk: up 8:16, 2 users, load average: 0.58, 0.79, 0.74 | 10:38 |
| fairuz | jj-afk: ok thanks for your help | 10:38 |
| DrDetroit | just for info purposes i think 27 is ok | 10:38 |
| DrDetroit | see you later | 10:38 |
| jj-afk | DrDetroit: okay, 27 looks okay but not 28, I'll build a kernel for you to test, while I am a way | 10:39 |
| DrDetroit | thanks, see you later on today | 10:41 |
| jj-afk | DrDetroit: I am give me 20 min, and I'll have the kernel for you | 10:42 |
| jj-afk | DrDetroit: kernel.ubuntu.com/~jj/linux-image-2.6.32-28-generic_2.6.32-28.50~lp740549.13417a_i386.deb | 11:10 |
| jj-afk | these ones are going to be slightly different in that I am tagging them with part of the commit sha | 11:10 |
| jj-afk | so if you don't want all the test kernels installed at the same time, then you will need to dpkg -r the package when done testing with it and moving on | 11:12 |
| fairuz | jj-afk: there? | 12:10 |
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| DrDetroit | jj=afk: so if i understand correctly, I should 1) download the package 2) install it the same way we did the others with dpkg -i <packagename> | 12:40 |
| DrDetroit | then once I am done testing do a dpkg -r <packagename> before moving on to the next one | 12:41 |
| DrDetroit | jj-afk: so if i understand correctly, I should 1) download the package 2) install it the same way we did the others with dpkg -i <packagename> | 12:42 |
| DrDetroit | then once I am done testing do a dpkg -r <packagename> before moving on to the next one | 12:42 |
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| DrDetroit | jj-afk: downloaded and testing first kernel | 13:00 |
| DrDetroit | l | 13:28 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, are you planning to rebase natty master-next for 2.6.38.1 today? | 13:33 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: yep, was gonna do it right after I finish up this Maverick to Natty config delta review | 13:34 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, cool | 13:34 |
| ppisati | ogasawara: lp#737073 - why did you mark it invalid for lucid/maverick? the description says it affects kernels before 2.6.37 | 13:45 |
| ogasawara | bug 737073 | 13:45 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 737073 in linux "CVE-2010-4527" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/737073 | 13:45 |
| ogasawara | ppisati: I want to recall that it's because the patch is already in maverick/lucid via stable updates, but I'll have to double check | 13:46 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, if so, shouldn't it be 'fix released' ? | 13:47 |
| ppisati | ogasawara: ah ok | 13:47 |
| ppisati | ppisati: i didn't check the tree before asking, ok | 13:47 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: yah, I suppose it could be marked Fix Released rather than Invalid | 13:48 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, that more closely matches the CVE tracker state, doesn't it? | 13:48 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: the CVE tracker state is marked as not-affected so I guess it just depends how we want to interpret it | 13:50 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, well, the security team has been dinging us for not noticing when stable updates fix a CVE, even though its not noted in the upstream commit log. | 13:51 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: ah, in that case Fix Released is probably a better status to use | 13:51 |
| * ogasawara back in 20min | 14:03 | |
| ppisati | bug 736394 | 14:04 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 736394 in linux-source-2.6.15 "CVE-2010-4342" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/736394 | 14:04 |
| ppisati | i nominated it for maverick | 14:05 |
| ppisati | can anyone pass the nomination? | 14:05 |
| tgardner | ppisati, LP keeps timing out | 14:10 |
| smb | tgardner, ppisati Did it (was closer) | 14:11 |
| ogasawara | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardware-kernel-n-version-and-flavours | 14:47 |
| ogasawara | ^^ anyone else get an error if they try to edit the whiteboard? | 14:47 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, I just changed your name in the Whiteboard | 14:48 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: cool, thanks | 14:48 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, maybe your LP privs are eroding. | 14:49 |
| sconklin | tgardner: so the ABI problems with the packages were not the root cause of the FTBFS? (just trying to stay current) | 14:50 |
| tgardner | sconklin, I can't say for sure since LUM had the same issues, and is in the dependency chain. | 14:51 |
| sconklin | ok | 14:51 |
| tgardner | sconklin, thats gotta get fixed first before I can tell if its the root of the HPPA FTBS. its just about gotta be that 'cause nothing else has changed. | 14:51 |
| sconklin | tgardner: yeah, and it makes sense that it could be the cause | 14:52 |
| tgardner | sconklin: so, in order to avoid this ever happening again, I'm ripping out all generated files from dapper/hardy and subsidiary packages. | 14:53 |
| sconklin | tgardner: great! Brad and I had the "OMG how many other packages could have this problem" conversation last night, but you got there first | 14:54 |
| sconklin | Even more scary is that potentially it could have happened and not resulted in a build failure | 14:54 |
| tgardner | sconklin, it likely is an indicator of how many folks aren't using Hardy LUM 'cause I don't think the modules would load, bot nobody has complained. | 14:55 |
| smb | tgardner, Was Hardy also still carrying the abi number asclear text or was it just re-creating those depending files? | 14:55 |
| sconklin | Brad and I have also talked about trying to get download stats for dapper and hardy, I'm curious how many consumers they have, and I think the stats are available now | 14:56 |
| smb | tgardner, I usually would notice when booting the test laptop. But it is more something like "hm, it is very silent on boot" | 14:56 |
| tgardner | smb, Hardy LUM/LBM had debian/control committed in the repo, which makes it easy to _not_ correctly generate the ABI info. | 14:56 |
| tgardner | Hardy LRM as well | 14:57 |
| fairuz | how to generate vmlinuz kernel file? I just have uImage, zimage and compressed/vmlinux. Thanks | 14:57 |
| smb | tgardner, Ah yes, I was unsure whether Hardy also still have the abi number in the rules file instead of using the number from the changelog | 14:58 |
| smb | That is what caught me when doing dapper lrm | 14:59 |
| tgardner | smb, dapper is worse. you _have_ to run the bumpabi target in order to get the udeb stuff henerated correctly. | 14:59 |
| smb | tgardner, Even worse that is the kernel package only. There is no bumpabi target in lrm | 15:00 |
| tgardner | smb, right, but we only have to live with that for a couple of months more | 15:00 |
| smb | That is the hope one can hold on. :) | 15:01 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, there is no '-' in your LP name. I see you've corrected it already in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardware-kernel-n-version-and-flavours | 15:02 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: yep, no - | 15:03 |
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| bjf | GrueMaster, have you signed off on the mvl-dove kernels now in -proposed ? | 15:51 |
| GrueMaster | I have tested the 216/416 kernels, yes. I had noted that in the release tracking bug. | 15:52 |
| GrueMaster | or one of the bugs. | 15:52 |
| bjf | GrueMaster, i'm looking at what I think is the tracking bug, can you point me at the one you added a comment to? I'll also hunt for it. | 15:55 |
| GrueMaster | Well, looking at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/reports/sru-report.html I see 4 proposed tracker bugs listed under linux-mvl-dove. I'm not sure at this point as there were 3 kernels in proposed at one point. | 15:57 |
| bjf | GrueMaster, ok, thanks, we are working on the "tracking bug" issue | 15:58 |
| GrueMaster | The only bug I cannot verify is bug 732700. | 15:58 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 732700 in linux-mvl-dove "apparmor_parser triggers a kernel panic" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/732700 | 15:58 |
| DrDetroit | l | 15:58 |
| GrueMaster | But I believe ppisati was going to test it (since he filed it). | 15:58 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: did it, and it's ok | 15:59 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: i mean, it doesn't happer anymore | 15:59 |
| ppisati | *happen | 15:59 |
| GrueMaster | right. | 15:59 |
| GrueMaster | cool | 15:59 |
| GrueMaster | bjf: I just added my test notes to tracking bug 734950 | 16:00 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 734950 in linux-mvl-dove "linux: 2.6.32-31.60 / linux-ec2 2.6.32-315.28 -proposed tracker" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/734950 | 16:00 |
| GrueMaster | Although it doesn't list the specific kernel versions for dove. | 16:01 |
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| DrDetroit | jjohansen: been running the 1st kernel for about 3hrs now, no problems yet | 16:07 |
| DrDetroit | i forgot how to remove my away status, hehe | 16:08 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: okay, I kick off the next one | 16:10 |
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| === diwic is now known as diwic_afk | ||
| tayal | i am willing to build a kernel.. can i do this in my maverick if it will have no harm? | 16:20 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: kernel.ubuntu.com/~jj/linux-image-2.6.32-28-generic_2.6.32-28.50~lp740549.4636a8_i386.deb | 16:22 |
| jjohansen | tayal: you can build your own kernel if you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel | 16:23 |
| bjf | tayal, yes you can | 16:23 |
| bjf | tayal, is there a reason you want to build your own kernel ? | 16:23 |
| aakshay | jjohansen: hey.. :) thanks.. | 16:23 |
| aakshay | bjf, | 16:24 |
| aakshay | bjf: hi. :).. yes | 16:24 |
| aakshay | i am learning device driver design | 16:24 |
| aakshay | bjf,: so need to hav kernel builded to run my modules | 16:24 |
| aakshay | bjf: but i am confused exactly how to build the kernel? How to start? :( | 16:25 |
| bjf | aakshay, see the url that jjohansen just posted ^^ | 16:25 |
| tayal | bjf: are these the only steps? | 16:27 |
| bjf | tayal, yes, that all you need to get a kernel built and installed | 16:28 |
| tayal | bjf: what is the meaning of Root of Kernel Source? | 16:28 |
| bjf | tayal, the topmost directory in the kernel source tree | 16:29 |
| tayal | bjf: ok.. i am downloading the source. thanks for the help. :) | 16:29 |
| bjf | tayal, np | 16:29 |
| tayal | jjohansen: thanks :) | 16:29 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen: dl now, to remove the one I just tested it is dpkg -r linux-image-2.6.32-28-generic? | 16:30 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: dpkg -r linux-image-2.6.32-28-generic_2.6.32-28.50~lp740549.13417a_i386.deb | 16:32 |
| jjohansen | ah, stupid paste | 16:32 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen: dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in | 16:34 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: yes, sorry I was looking up what the exact package was that you installed and ended up pasting that in | 16:35 |
| DrDetroit | it removed it when i did -r linux-image-2.6.32-28-generic? | 16:35 |
| DrDetroit | i am ok | 16:35 |
| jjohansen | yeah | 16:35 |
| DrDetroit | installing now | 16:35 |
| DrDetroit | ok ready to test it for a couple hours | 16:35 |
| DrDetroit | back shortly | 16:35 |
| DrDetroit | and back | 16:47 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen: will give this one a few hours at least | 16:48 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: yep | 16:48 |
| DrDetroit | I guess that means I will have to go mow the yard | 16:53 |
| * DrDetroit pouts | 16:53 | |
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| DrDetroit | l | 17:10 |
| === sforshee is now known as sforshee-lunch | ||
| herton | ogasawara: bug 735640 can be marked as fixed in changelog with latest 2.6.38.1 update in natty | 17:39 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 735640 in linux "Request support for Ortek PKB1700 wireless kb" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/735640 | 17:39 |
| herton | and may be someone should nominate it for natty? I don't know | 17:39 |
| ogasawara | herton: cool, I'll add it | 17:39 |
| herton | also bug 735450 should be fixed, but no reporter confirmed it the testing kernel I uploaded | 17:39 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 735450 in linux "BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 000001e4" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/735450 | 17:40 |
| herton | s/confirmed it/confirmed | 17:40 |
| ogasawara | herton: yah, I suspect they filed it and then forgot about it. I'll just add it so it gets closed. They can always reopen it if necessary. | 17:41 |
| herton | ok, thanks | 17:42 |
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| cnd | ogasawara, do you know if the canonical hwe or platform services guys read the ubuntu-kernel mailing list? | 17:52 |
| cnd | I want to send something that will reach everyone, but specifically them | 17:53 |
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| cnd | the kernel-team mail list is pretty verbose now... | 17:53 |
| ogasawara | cnd: hrm, hard to say. I'd say they probably don't follow it very closely. | 17:54 |
| cnd | ok | 17:54 |
| cnd | I'll probably send two emails then | 17:55 |
| cnd | I don't like to add private list CC's to a public email | 17:55 |
| ogasawara | cnd: makes sense | 17:55 |
| * tgardner --> lunch | 18:16 | |
| vanhoof | cnd: we read it :) | 18:21 |
| vanhoof | cnd: just fwd if you'd like | 18:21 |
| cnd | vanhoof, ok | 18:22 |
| sconklin | jjohansen: what's the status of the performance regression that you were bisecting? Just curious . . . | 18:43 |
| jjohansen | sconklin: haven't found it yet, turns out it show up in the entire range we bisected, the is -28 wasn't good | 18:44 |
| jjohansen | sconklin: so we have expanded the range and each bisect is being tested for the 3-4 hours necessary for the problem to surface | 18:44 |
| sconklin | jjohansen: so the possibility exists that it really is from the scheduler updates | 18:44 |
| jjohansen | sconklin: yeah | 18:45 |
| sconklin | jjohansen: could you please keep the bug updated and point to the bisection branch so we can tag-team this? | 18:45 |
| jjohansen | sconklin: sure | 18:45 |
| sconklin | thanks. I'm curious to see what this one is and why it takes hours to show up | 18:46 |
| jjohansen | sconklin: me too | 18:46 |
| sconklin | DrDetroit: is it possible for you to provide a very detailed set of steps for how to reproduce the issue and tell when it happens? Ideally we could get it added as a unit test for QA | 18:47 |
| bjf | sconklin, jjohansen, DrDetroit, it would be nice if we could duplicate the problem as well | 18:51 |
| jjohansen | bjf: yep, I have started trying to do that, on actual hardware vs vm | 18:53 |
| * jjohansen -> lunch | 19:06 | |
| DrDetroit | sconklin bjf jjohansen: sorry i was outside mowin. I am not sure how to tell you to duplicate it | 19:11 |
| DrDetroit | I just run my normal stuff and after awhile the machine just turns to mush, but nothing really shows up in top or ps aux | 19:11 |
| DrDetroit | it might be 20 min, it might be several hours | 19:12 |
| DrDetroit | but I don't mind doing this, since I have plenty of extra time on my hands | 19:13 |
| sconklin | DrDetroit: one more tool, it may not show anything, but you can try latencytop | 19:15 |
| DrDetroit | let me try that | 19:16 |
| DrDetroit | installing | 19:16 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: right, but we can't be sure whether a bisect is good for several hours, its easy when its bad | 19:17 |
| jjohansen | sconklin: yeah thats another good one to use, I have been asking for vmstat, sar, top, and a few other things | 19:17 |
| DrDetroit | ok how do i read this | 19:20 |
| DrDetroit | let me copy the global here so you guys can see it | 19:22 |
| DrDetroit | 'fudge it wont let me copy | 19:22 |
| DrDetroit | well scheduler seems to have the most pecentage | 19:22 |
| DrDetroit | 36-40% | 19:23 |
| DrDetroit | when i have it set on global one of the items i see is jbd2/sdb1-8, I never heard of that | 19:26 |
| DrDetroit | its at 46% | 19:26 |
| skaet | DFo, ogasawara - based on scans so far (it changes every minute after all.. :P ) only new high/critical bug I've found to add to kernel's list this week is Bug:634487 | 19:26 |
| skaet | the searching/scanning will continue though this afternoon.... ;) | 19:27 |
| skaet | rest of the bugs are already on the list from last week. | 19:27 |
| ogasawara | skaet: cool, thanks | 19:30 |
| ogasawara | bug 634487 | 19:30 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 634487 in linux "t1.micro instance hangs when installing java" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/634487 | 19:30 |
| DrDetroit | sconklin: latencytop installed and running | 19:31 |
| DrDetroit | what should I look for? | 19:31 |
| sconklin | heh, it's not helpful to say "anything that looks unusual", is it. | 19:33 |
| DrDetroit | well | 19:33 |
| DrDetroit | scheduler stays above 35% | 19:33 |
| sconklin | Just see if anything jumps to the top when the system starts going south | 19:33 |
| DrDetroit | ok | 19:34 |
| sconklin | Also look for any of the latency numbers in the "maximum" column which get really huge | 19:35 |
| DrDetroit | oh | 19:36 |
| DrDetroit | how big is huge? | 19:37 |
| DrDetroit | kswapd0 is 97 | 19:38 |
| tgardner | bjf, wtf does a version look like as an option to create-stable-tracker ? | 20:22 |
| bjf | tgardner, it's just a string which will be used in the title, and description so for example: 2.6.32.35+drm33.15 | 20:24 |
| tgardner | bjf, so in theory it could be anything? | 20:24 |
| bjf | tgardner, yes, i don't check it for any kind of "correct-ness" | 20:25 |
| tgardner | hmm, it keeps blowing up. create-stable-tracker --version 2.6.32.35: | 20:25 |
| tgardner | version: 2.6.32.35 | 20:25 |
| tgardner | Traceback (most recent call last): | 20:25 |
| tgardner | File "/usr3/ubuntu/kteam-tools/stable/create-stable-tracker", line 228, in <module> | 20:25 |
| tgardner | app.main() | 20:25 |
| tgardner | File "/usr3/ubuntu/kteam-tools/stable/create-stable-tracker", line 144, in main | 20:25 |
| tgardner | raise AppError("The version (%s) is not a recognized version string." % (self.cfg['version'])) | 20:25 |
| tgardner | __main__.AppError | 20:25 |
| JFo | thanks skaet | 20:25 |
| tgardner | r | 20:25 |
| JFo | aparently I have been running around all day set to away :-/ | 20:26 |
| bjf | tgardner, --version=2.6.32.35 though i expect it to behave better than that | 20:26 |
| tgardner | bjf, that was the next thing I tried: create-stable-tracker --version=2.6.32.35 | 20:27 |
| tgardner | version: 2.6.32.35 | 20:27 |
| tgardner | Traceback (most recent call last): | 20:27 |
| tgardner | File "/usr3/ubuntu/kteam-tools/stable/create-stable-tracker", line 228, in <module> | 20:27 |
| tgardner | app.main() | 20:27 |
| tgardner | File "/usr3/ubuntu/kteam-tools/stable/create-stable-tracker", line 144, in main | 20:27 |
| tgardner | raise AppError("The version (%s) is not a recognized version string." % (self.cfg['version'])) | 20:27 |
| tgardner | __main__.AppError | 20:27 |
| tgardner | bjf, these error messages lead me to believe that there is a required format. | 20:28 |
| bjf | tgardner, looking | 20:28 |
| bjf | tgardner, interesting, it checks against the debian version, one sec | 20:29 |
| bjf | tgardner, i'm debugging it | 20:32 |
| ogasawara | skaet: hrmph, it looks like the gcc armel build was restarted for some reason which is going to delay our no-change kernel upload from today until tomorrow. The kernel then won't finish being built until Saturday now. | 20:38 |
| bjf | tgardner, pull it and see if that works better, it's just a string now | 20:44 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen: Been running this one for just over 4hrs, downloaded a ubuntu server instal cd, did some browsing etc, it seems ok for now | 20:45 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: okay, I'll kick off the next one | 20:45 |
| tgardner | bjf, seems to have worked. | 20:47 |
| bjf | tgardner, double check the bug for content | 20:47 |
| tgardner | bjf, bug #742056 | 20:48 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 742056 in linux "Lucid update to v2.6.32.35.15 stable release" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/742056 | 20:48 |
| bjf | tgardner, looking | 20:48 |
| bjf | tgardner, did you have to do anything or did the script do all that for you ? | 20:48 |
| tgardner | bjf, so, you don't target any other kernels? we should do this for every variant? | 20:48 |
| tgardner | bjf, the script did it all | 20:49 |
| bjf | tgardner, you mean fsl-imx51 and mvl-dove and ec2 for Lucid ? | 20:49 |
| tgardner | bjf, yes | 20:49 |
| bjf | tgardner, ok, sconklin and i were just going over our todo list and i'll get that on it | 20:50 |
| * ogasawara back on later | 20:51 | |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: kernel.ubuntu.com/~jj/linux-headers-2.6.32-28-generic_2.6.32-28.50~lp740549.8d6842_i386.deb | 21:04 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen: on my way | 21:05 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen: that didnt take 1 sec to download | 21:05 |
| DrDetroit | is that coorect>? | 21:06 |
| jjohansen | hrmm let me check | 21:06 |
| DrDetroit | that one says linux headers | 21:06 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: ha no, I gave you the header name not the image | 21:07 |
| DrDetroit | ok | 21:07 |
| tgardner | bjf, pushed lucid Linux 2.6.32.35, seems to build OK. did you empty out pre-proposed so that it'll build in the morning? | 21:07 |
| DrDetroit | let me delete that one then | 21:07 |
| jjohansen | kernel.ubuntu.com/~jj/linux-image-2.6.32-28-generic_2.6.32-28.50~lp740549.8d6842_i386.deb | 21:07 |
| bjf | tgardner, no | 21:07 |
| bjf | tgardner, i can handle that if you want | 21:08 |
| tgardner | bjf, um, not sure what you mean. I just pushed the stable updates to Lucid master-next. | 21:08 |
| tgardner | oh, you mean about emptying the PPA | 21:09 |
| bjf | yes | 21:09 |
| tgardner | yeah, it needs doing. | 21:09 |
| tgardner | go ahead | 21:09 |
| bjf | tgardner, i've deleted the email can you forward | 21:09 |
| bjf | tgardner, and i'll take if from there | 21:09 |
| tgardner | bjf, so have I. just delete all packages that have been superseded. I'll check back in a few hours. | 21:10 |
| bjf | tgardner, what's the url to pre-proposed ? | 21:10 |
| tgardner | https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/pre-proposed | 21:11 |
| bjf | tgardner, thanks | 21:11 |
| tgardner | bjf: 6.8 GiB (84.65%) of 8.0 GiB | 21:12 |
| tgardner | I'm outta here for the day. | 21:12 |
| sbeattie | bjf: ask on #soyuz on i.c.c to make that ppa larger, if you need. | 21:13 |
| bjf | sbeattie, thanks | 21:13 |
| DrDetroit | back in a few | 21:15 |
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| DrDetroit | and back | 21:21 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen: do you know about how many we will have to do this round? | 21:26 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: I think it was 4 more | 21:26 |
| DrDetroit | ok cool, just curious | 21:27 |
| jjohansen | DrDetroit: yep 4 | 21:30 |
| DrDetroit | no problemo | 21:34 |
| DrDetroit | just trying to understand ubuntu-server 10.04 LTS while I am waiting | 21:35 |
| skaet | ogasawara, arm is a mess right now from the builds, so somehow not feeling surprised to hear it. :P thanks for the head's up. | 21:39 |
| kristian-aalborg | hey jjohansen | 23:35 |
| jjohansen | hi kristian-aalborg | 23:35 |
| kristian-aalborg | thanks a lot for building that kernel, I've not tested yet though | 23:36 |
| kristian-aalborg | I have a kernel-burnout today ;) | 23:36 |
| kristian-aalborg | how did compiling it go? anything fishy? | 23:36 |
| jjohansen | kristian-aalborg: np, hrmm I don't remember anything fishy I should try it again to be sure | 23:37 |
| jjohansen | :) | 23:37 |
| kristian-aalborg | nah, we'll know when I try to boot it | 23:37 |
| kristian-aalborg | but, only one file? | 23:37 |
| jjohansen | kristian-aalborg: what were you looking for? There are a few other pacakges related to it like headers, but they aren't needed to test if the kernel boots | 23:38 |
| kristian-aalborg | I thought at least two files were needed, image + headers | 23:39 |
| DrDetroit | jjohansen: I am going to take a break for a bit, I should be back before you log off for the night | 23:42 |
| === DrDetroit is now known as DrD_away | ||
| jjohansen | DrD_away: that shouldn't be a problem, as I don't usually log off until after you wake up :) | 23:43 |
| DrD_away | haha | 23:43 |
| DrD_away | thats cause i am old | 23:43 |
| * DrD_away chuckles | 23:43 | |
| jjohansen | kristian-aalborg: no the headers aren't needed, at least for straight boot testing, now if you want to build certain things like external modules, or actually many applications they are needed | 23:44 |
| jjohansen | DrD_away: nah, its because you are sane and value a good nights sleep | 23:44 |
| kristian-aalborg | jjohansen: ah, okay | 23:45 |
| kristian-aalborg | can I have the link again? | 23:45 |
| kristian_ | jjohansen, sorry, box died | 23:56 |
| jjohansen | kristian_: kernel.ubuntu.com/~jj/linux-image-2.6.32-31-generic_2.6.32-31.60~kristian_i386.deb | 23:57 |
| kristian_ | thanks | 23:58 |
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