[00:01] <Joeb454> time to call it a night. Bye! :)
[00:29] <mmiller235> steemed, will unity work inside virtualbox?
[00:31] <steemed> I assume so...
[00:31] <steemed> If you are talking about 11.04 maybe
[00:33] <mmiller235> steemed trying out a beta of it right now
[00:40] <mmiller235>  Okay, after detecting the keyboard, i am staring at a pink screen
[00:40] <mmiller235> is this normal?
[00:40] <mmiller235> oh there it goes
[00:40] <mmiller235> nvm
[01:47] <mmiller235> steemed are you there?
[01:47] <steemed> yes but I'm busy
[01:47] <mmiller235> well I need help :(
[02:44] <steemed> mmiller235, what do you need?
[02:53] <mmiller235> steemed to get unity to work in vbox
[02:53] <mmiller235> which apparently can't be done
[02:54] <steemed> I wouldn't know: I don't run 11.04 
[10:32] <s-fox> Hello.
[18:09] <s-fox> I will be back later.
[18:55] <falco_> I need help: I tried installing kde with kde-full on ubuntu (not kubuntu) i realize now that this is a mistake, but i need some way to restore gnome locally (net doesn't work on recovery console)
[18:56] <Pici> falco_: you're better off asking in #ubuntu, this isn't exactly a support channel.
[18:56] <falco_> Pici: they didn't know
[18:57] <Pici> falco_: No, one person didn't know.  You can ask again and see if someone else can help you.
[18:57] <Bachstelze> falco_: you shoult be able to bring your net up from the console with ifconfig
[18:57] <falco_> Pici: okay
[18:57] <falco_> oh
[18:57] <Bachstelze> and either way, you shouldn't need it
[18:57] <falco_> what do i do without it to restore?
[18:58] <Bachstelze> wezll, it would depend what exactly the problem is
[18:58] <falco_> i (partially) installed kde and i need to restore gnome
[18:59] <Bachstelze> yes
[19:00] <Bachstelze> by "the problem" I mean "why X doe"sn't( start" since you say you're stuck in the console
[19:00] <Bachstelze> doesn't*
[19:00] <Bachstelze> you don't really need to "restore Gnome", gnome is still here
[19:01] <falco_> ah. the error message is: 'Warning: Cannot open ConsoleKit session: Unable to open session: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 127' and after that it takes me back to the login screen. i can get into recovery console tho
[19:01] <Bachstelze> it just doesn't start for some reason which is not obvious
[19:01] <Bachstelze> ok
[19:01] <Bachstelze> hmm
[19:01] <Bachstelze> are you ytrying to log in a KDE or Gnome session?
[19:02] <falco_> KDE, Gnome isn't an option for some reason.
[19:02] <Bachstelze> hm
[19:02] <Bachstelze> hasq the login screen changed?
[19:03] <falco_> yes.
[19:03] <Bachstelze> formerly yoou had GDM, maube the KDE installation changed it to KDM
[19:03] <Bachstelze> ok
[19:03] <Bachstelze> try to go back to GDM
[19:03] <falco_> how?
[19:03] <Bachstelze> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[19:03] <falco_> k
[19:04] <falco_> alrite.
[19:04] <falco_> lemme try again now that i did that
[19:05] <falco_> booting...
[19:06] <falco_> it's taking a REALLY long time to boot
[19:07] <Bachstelze> I think you cna press ESC to see the boot messages
[19:08] <Bachstelze> it might just be fsck'ing your disks
[19:09] <falco_> okay, the last message it gave me was 'Starting TiMidity** midi emulation...' but it says ok, so it's doing something else. ur right tho, it may just be fsck'ing my discs.
[19:10] <falco_> sry, thats ALSA midi emulation
[19:11] <Bachstelze> I think fscl happens before
[19:11] <falco_> hmm... so what's happening?
[19:11] <Bachstelze> hmm you cna alwyas hard-reboot and boot without quiet splash
[19:11] <Bachstelze> no idea
[19:11] <falco_> 'boot without quiet splash'?
[19:12] <Bachstelze> boot without passing the "quiet" ans "splash" parameters to the kernel, so you can see what's going on
[19:12] <Bachstelze> you can edit the boot command line in GRUB
[19:12] <falco_> how?
[19:14] <Bachstelze> you cna press a key to edit a GRUB entry, I think it's 'e', but it's described on the GRUB menu
[19:15] <falco_> when do i press e?
[19:16] <Bachstelze> hughlight the entry you want to modify and press 'e'
[19:16] <Bachstelze> then edit the kernel line, remove "quiet splash" and boot
[19:18] <falco_> i can't do anything like that. trying to highlight anything only switches from the graphical (four dots) boot to the non-graphical one.
[19:18] <Bachstelze> before that, when you're in the GRUB menu
[19:18] <Bachstelze> if you don't have it, press shift at boot
[19:18] <falco_> k
[19:19] <falco_> pressing shift doesn't work
[19:19] <Bachstelze> it should
[19:19] <Bachstelze> you're probably doing it too late
[19:20] <falco_> do i do it right when it starts rebooting?
[19:20] <Bachstelze> you have to do it right when the computer boots
[19:20] <Bachstelze> after the BIOS screens, before it qtarts the OS
[19:21] <falco_> huh. i tried it at every possible place before my machine booted. nothing happened.
[19:21] <falco_> no, before it loaded ubuntu
[19:21] <falco_> sorry,
[19:21] <falco_> wording error.
[19:21] <falco_> or tried to load ubuntu
[19:23] <Bachstelze> it definitely should work
[19:23] <Bachstelze> unless you are running GRUB 1, but that's unlikely
[19:25] <falco_> strange... because it isn't working. but hypothetically, if i had grub 1, what would i do?
[19:25] <Bachstelze> you would know it
[19:25] <Bachstelze> there would be a "Press ESC to enter GRUB menu" at the top left corner of your screen
[19:27] <falco_> ah. that's very odd. do you have any ideas about why i cant open the grub menu?
[19:27] <Bachstelze> no :(
[19:27] <falco_> :/ dang
[19:28] <Bachstelze> you cn alaways edity the grub config from the recovery console, though
[19:28] <Bachstelze> to change the boot settings
[19:28] <Bachstelze> but it's still weird that you can't just enter the menu
[19:28] <falco_> how do i get into the recovery console if ubuntu doesn't load?
[19:28] <Bachstelze> ...
[19:28] <Bachstelze> good point
[19:28] <Bachstelze> hmm
[19:29] <Bachstelze> well the next step is boot a live CD and tinker with your system from there
[19:30] <Bachstelze> though at that point, if you didn't have anything important, you might as well reinstall
[19:30] <falco_> well... i do have some stuff. but anyways, i'll go get the live cd
[19:31] <Bachstelze> then yeah, you can access your installed system from the live cd and hopefully fix it
[19:42] <falco_> okay... i'm having trouble finding it, but i started dloading it, and i'll look for it in the meantime.
[21:22] <falco_> Bachstelze: i've booted the live cd. what do i do now?
[21:27] <Bachstelze> falco_: you mount the root partition of your installed system and do whatever you want to do
[21:27] <Bachstelze> either get your data back and reinstall, or try to fix it
[21:28] <falco_> how do i mount the root partition of the existing installation?
[21:29] <Bachstelze> using the mount command, like you mount any other filesystem
[21:30] <falco_> ah. sorry. i wasn't thinking.
[21:33] <falco_> how do i navigate to my actual drive?
[21:34] <Bachstelze> like you navigate to any other location, using Nautilus or the terminal
[21:34] <falco_> it's only showing a file system for the live cd
[21:34] <Bachstelze> did you mount your drive ?
[21:35] <falco_> how do you mount your drive? sry, n00bish question
[21:36] <CharlesA> falco_: Is it listed on the places menu?
[21:36] <falco_> oh! i found it. thanks!
[21:42] <falco_> now is there a way to install ubuntu onto my drive without interfering with any of my personal files, or do i have to back everything up?
[21:50] <Bachstelze> nnot easily, and I wouldn't recommend it
[21:50] <Bachstelze> (this is why you should always have a separate /home partition)