[02:05] <xiaoshen> hi all still the same problem no sound :(
[04:27] <Kramba> How do I get the bell to work in xfce-terminal? I already did: http://n0nb.us/blog/2011/01/enable-the-pc-speaker-beep-in-xfce-terminal/ - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-terminal/+bug/60912 - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1454981
[07:32] <slook> I went onto the Xubuntu website and noticed it's no in the Latest news for the latest alpha 3 download. Is there a reason for that or did I miss something? Alpha 3 was released March 2 or 3rd.
[13:44] <differentSmoke> hello, I have a very silly support question, more general linux, I think, that xubuntu specific
[13:46] <ochosi> !ask
[13:46] <differentSmoke> I'm using FireFTP(an FTP client built into Firefox), and I want to set up scite as the app that opens text files from FireFTP. On windows, there's a promt that asks me to set the app and I go to programFiles/Scite/scite.exe. Thing is, I don't know how to do the equivalent in linux
[13:46] <differentSmoke> (I know, sorry, it just took me long to write it, and I always think is polite to frame the question... I might be wrong though)
[13:47] <ochosi> differentSmoke: do you want this setting fireftp-specific or generally?
[13:47] <ochosi> hehe, np
[13:47] <ochosi> wasn't sure you were still typing
[13:47] <differentSmoke> ochosi: thing is, I don't know where to find the executable 'ala ProgramFiles'
[13:48] <ochosi> usually in /usr/bin
[13:48] <ochosi> but also in /bin or /usr/local/bin
[13:49] <ochosi> if you don't want to search for them you can also check the package properties in synaptic and look through the "installed files"-tab
[13:49] <differentSmoke> that's it. Thanks
[13:50] <ochosi> np
[13:51] <differentSmoke> uhm, I have another issue now but I guess it's scite specific
[13:52] <differentSmoke> it opens files in different tabs
[13:54] <differentSmoke> btw, is there a shortcut to open a terminal window? I see linux pro's do this all the time but I have never figured out how
[13:55] <ochosi> well, if you just want to set a general shortcut, go to menu > settings > settings manager > keyboard settings
[13:55] <ochosi> and then the "application shortcuts"-tab
[13:55] <ochosi> there you can add a shortcut for the term of your choice
[13:55] <ochosi> e.g. "xfce4-terminal"
[14:14] <differentSmoke> thanks.
[14:14] <differentSmoke> last n00b question for a while: do you recomend KOffice as an office suite?
[14:14] <knome> not with xubuntu
[14:14] <differentSmoke> why not?
[14:14] <knome> have you tried abiword an gnumeric, which are installed by deafult?
[14:15] <differentSmoke> does abiword open docx files?
[14:15] <knome> koffice prbably uses Qt, which means you need to load additional libraries
[14:15] <knome> tbh, i don't know. i use libreoffice myself since i need some of the advanced features
[14:15] <knome> ochosi, ?
[14:15] <differentSmoke> but will those slow down xubuntu a lot?
[14:15] <differentSmoke> I just figure that koffice should be faster than openOffice
[14:16] <Sysi> koffice can't open docx
[14:16] <differentSmoke> (libreOffice is a fork of openOffice, right?)
[14:16] <knome> yes and no. if you don't use any other Qt apps, you need to load the Qt apps when you open Koffice
[14:16] <differentSmoke> Sysi: google fail then
[14:16] <knome> differentSmoke, libreoffice is the new name for openoffice
[14:16] <Sysi> knome: libreoffice is a fork of openoffice and currently in repositories is openoffice
[14:17] <Sysi> libreoffice coming in natty
[14:17] <differentSmoke> well, the whole point of installing xubuntu in this machine is that a modern windows version was no longer feasible
[14:18] <knome> Sysi, right...
[14:18] <knome> Sysi, what's the difference?
[14:18] <Sysi> i'm not 100% sure about koffice opening docx but it still won't be a lot lighter than OO
[14:18] <Sysi> knome: idk really, but separate projecs
[14:19] <knome> right..
[14:19] <Sysi> upcoming UI update will make the difference propably
[14:19] <Sysi> OO is owned by oracle
[14:21] <differentSmoke> Sysi: you mean lighter in size or in resources?
[14:21] <knome> differentSmoke, resources
[14:21] <Sysi> differentSmoke: how much RAM you got?
[14:21] <knome> differentSmoke, really, with xubuntu you should try using abiword and gnumeric if you want the lightest.
[14:23] <differentSmoke> ok, will do. I just been dying to switch to KOffice for a while now. I'm java prejudiced and think it has a very cool interface. I use OpenOffice in my windows machine
[14:53] <differentSmoke> is xubuntu fully gtk compatible?
[14:53] <Sysi> i'm not sure what you mean but very propably yes
[14:57]  * likemindead plans to take the plunge & install Xubuntu Natty today. :D
[15:00] <ochosi> likemindead: i've been using natty since alpha2 and it's been working great so far
[15:00] <likemindead> Woot. I've been running Linux Mint 10 since I got a new hdd on Black Friday. Missing Xubuntu something fierce.
[15:08] <differentSmoke> Sysi: I meant if every app running on gtk would run on xubuntu(or in xfce really)
[15:10] <ochosi> differentSmoke: yes
[15:11] <differentSmoke> so is xfce kinda like gnome light or is there a significant difference apart from performance?
[15:12] <ochosi> customizability is also a difference
[15:13] <ochosi> there are in fact many differences, too many to name them in a list
[15:14] <differentSmoke> a top 3?(again, apart from performance)
[15:15] <likemindead> Lots of good info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfce actually, differentSmoke.
[15:15] <likemindead> Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments
[15:20] <Sysi> xfce is totally different to gnome, but they have some similarities
[15:20] <Sysi> GTK is library to create GUI apps
[15:25] <likemindead> So, this is my current laptop hdd: http://imagebin.org/144704
[15:27] <likemindead> And I want to replace Mint 10 with Xubuntu
[15:27] <likemindead> Without screwing up my /home
[15:27] <likemindead> Mint 10 is on / right?
[15:27] <likemindead> So I just install Xubuntu there?
[15:40] <Sysi> yes
[15:41] <likemindead> Thanks, Sysi.
[15:41] <likemindead> I don't know why, but partitioning always gets me confused. :-\
[18:58] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu community meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 2 minutes. Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[20:34] <lrussell> hi
[20:34] <lrussell> I'm have problems with xubuntu
[20:35] <charlie-tca> Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know.
[20:35] <lrussell> first of all the system is rediciuosly slow. but i have 256 mb of ram and a pretty good processor.
[20:36] <lrussell> and it keeps dropping wifi connections when the router is in the same room.
[20:36] <lrussell> can anyone help me!!!
[20:36] <lrussell> oh, sorry
[20:36] <lrussell> I just saw ur message
[20:38] <lrussell> hello...?
[20:39] <Sysi> 256mb isn't very much, what is model of your wifi card?
[20:40] <lrussell> a trendnet tew-421pc
[20:40] <lrussell> it goes into my laptops side slot
[20:40] <lrussell> when it does work it is slow
[20:40] <lrussell> it worked fine on windows
[20:43] <Sysi> i guess drivers are just bad, you could try windows drivers but compability makes them doubtful
[20:44] <Sysi> quite no-win :/
[20:44] <lrussell> :/
[20:44] <Sysi> what xubuntu version?
[20:44] <lrussell> 10.10
[20:44] <lrussell> i just installed it yesterday
[20:45] <lrussell> ive used ubuntu in the past
[20:46] <lrussell> but never on wifi
[20:46] <lrussell> windows is faster... xD
[20:46] <lrussell> but im tired of viruses
[20:49] <lrussell> hello?
[20:49] <Sysi> you could try lubuntu-desktop, install it and select on login
[20:50] <Sysi> should be a bit better with your ram, don't help with wifi though
[20:50] <lrussell> lubuntu? never heard of that
[20:50] <Sysi> !lubuntu
[20:51] <Sysi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201673
[20:51] <Sysi> you could try that, but i'm not sure how to revert that if needed
[20:51] <lrussell> does it work the same as xubuntu?
[20:51] <lrussell> ive got revert
[20:52] <lrussell> it was using windows on my laptop 4 hrs before xubuntu was on
[20:52] <lrussell> XD
[20:52] <Sysi> it has different UI but same HW and programs work
[20:52] <lrussell> ok
[20:52] <lrussell> i'll take a look
[21:31] <Thermi> gn8
[21:38] <differentSmoke> thanks for your help a while back, everyone, take care