[00:00] added the -o umask=0022 to fstab [00:02] Daskreech: it could be the mount folder permissions [00:02] dmkryl: paste the line from fstab [00:03] /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 autofs rw,users,-o umask=0022 0 0 [00:03] /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 autofs rw,users,umask=0022 0 0 [00:04] dmkryl: change it to that [00:05] wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so [00:06] how do i see what kind of file system the partition have? [00:06] dmkryl: Unmount the file system [00:06] fdisk -l [00:06] sudo that [00:07] http://pastebin.com/4M8hBx5G [00:07] dmkryl: right. are you sure you don't want /dev/sda4 ? [00:08] no that one is already mounted and is the right one [00:08] Alright [00:09] so did you unmount /dev/sda3 ? [00:09] yes [00:09] ok sudo mount -t auto -o umask=0022 /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 [00:10] wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so [00:12] this is the output of df -T [00:12] http://pastebin.com/WUtKbDmj [00:22] is there any way to shrink terminals to the system tray? === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway [00:22] dmkryl: try sudo mount -o umask=0022 /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 [00:22] poyntz: yakuake? [00:22] guake [00:22] !info yakuake [00:22] yakuake (source: yakuake): a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.7-1ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 299 kB, installed size 2104 kB [00:23] how does it compare to konsole? [00:23] no Daskreech it keeps sending me the same mistake... [00:24] dmkryl: Ok take out the -o umask=0022 and see what it says [00:24] poyntz: it is konsole [00:24] it works on root, but doesn't give me access in normal user [00:25] dmkryl: ah ok :) hold on I can fix this [00:32] dmkryl: try unmount it then just mount it as yourself [00:32] without sudo [00:33] it works [00:33] but i can't access === quant is now known as quant_ === quant_ is now known as quant [00:34] dmkryl: ls -l /media/ [00:34] dmkryl: Without sudo you cant access it? [00:35] drwx------ 5 ledah ledah 4096 1969-12-31 19:00 KY [00:35] drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2011-03-02 01:27 sda2 [00:35] drwx------ 19 1000 ntfs 4096 2011-03-24 13:33 sda3 [00:35] drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 2011-03-24 19:18 sda4 [00:35] dmkryl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [00:36] http://pastebin.com/2fXS56nb [00:36] dmkryl: This is from a different computer ? [00:36] the partition isn't owned by anyone [00:37] dmkryl: try sudo chmod o+rwx /media/sda3 [00:37] !info ntfs-config [00:37] ntfs-config (source: ntfs-config): Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3ubuntu5 (maverick), package size 87 kB, installed size 844 kB [00:37] * james147 suggests trying that ^^ [00:38] james147: sudo fdisk -l suggests that the filesystem is Linux [00:38] yes now it works thank you so much [00:38] though you know .. could be lying [00:39] :S [00:40] talked to soon [00:40] now it show me the folders [00:41] dmkryl: Yes it should [00:43] ledah@Sasha:/media/sda3$ cd dosprog bash: cd: dosprog: Permission denied [00:43] pastebin ls -l [00:44] http://pastebin.com/QBTc160Q [00:45] Daskreech: I don't understand how yakuake minimizes to the systray [00:46] also it seems to exit when i change windows.. [00:46] poyntz: press F12 [00:47] Daskreech: ahh cool. Do you use it? [00:47] james147: I don't know if I can hang around for this. You want to look at it? [00:48] * james147 should be in bed ^^ [00:48] Seems to be a NTFS filesystem of some sort but none of the NTFS mount options work on it and it has a strong user lockout on mounting [00:48] Ah ok good night [00:48] dmkryl: the drived used by any other system? [00:48] night and thx [00:49] no just linux [00:49] * james147 suggests getting the data off it and formatting it as ext4 ^^ [00:49] why use ntfs if your not using windows :p [00:50] i'm not sure if is really ntfs but i believe is ntfs [00:50] dmkryl: You can run a find command against it hold on [00:52] * james147 would still format it after getting the data off it ^^ ntfs goes screwy with linux premissions @( [00:52] ^^ how big is it? [00:52] Daskreech: do you use yakuake? [00:53] poyntz: Not right now but used to use it lots [00:53] 114 gb [00:54] this is df -T [00:54] http://pastebin.com/CZtKs2qf [00:55] Daskreech: why did you stop? [00:55] poyntz: moved system and haven't gotten around to reinstalling everything [00:55] Daskreech: ahh k. thanks for the help. i'll see how it goes [00:58] dmkryl: try sudo find /media/sda3 -type d -exec chmod o+rwx {} \; [00:58] poyntz: ok enjoy :) [01:04] now i can enter to every folder [01:04] but doesn't open any file [01:04] i'm sorry i'm new to this [01:05] dmkryl: sure I just didn't want you to make all the file executable [01:05] dmkryl: try sudo find /media/sda3 -exec chmod o+r {} \; [01:08] Does anyone know why my Google Desktop Search's Preferences don't open? [01:22] Daskreech it worked thank you so much [01:24] Sure :) [02:02] I'm having trouble getting new widgets to download it appears to work but they never appear to add to my desktop [02:02] am I missing something? [02:04] beast: What are you expecting? [02:04] I expect them to show up in the widget bar that comes up at the bottom of the screen [02:05] let me describe my steps [02:05] 1. Click on top right corner to add widget [02:05] 2. widget bar appears and I click get more widgets [02:05] 3. I select widgets to install they appear to install with no errors [02:06] 4. I got back to widget bar but they are not there so I cannot add them to my desktop [02:08] Is there another installation step I am missing? [02:08] I've seen that before too [02:09] There doesn't seem to be a file downloaded that I can install manually [02:10] ages ago - this might sound silly but I tried a reboot... [02:10] S74rk7: eek [02:10] That was my first thought but I've rebooted several times and still nothing [02:10] beast: try this [02:11] beast: open a terminal and kquitapp plasma-desktop && sleep 5 && plasma-desktop [02:12] I'm paying attention here too :) [02:12] ok done [02:13] that threw a bug notification [02:14] kind of cool though because all my windows are open but my desktop is empty blackness LOL [02:14] too bad I can't use it [02:14] how do I start it back up? [02:15] beast: plasma-desktop [02:15] beast: part of the joy of building things in independent parts [02:16] ok its back up should I try the widgets again or is there more? [02:16] try the widgets again [02:16] What version of KDE is this by the way? [02:18] Daskreech: I'm just realising what you mean about the reboot thing... no real need in linux is there... if something is just messing around for no aparant reason - when in windows you rebooted...somtimes cured it - are you saying in linux is easier to narrow it down to the suspect service/app and run the command to restart it ?? [02:18] nope didn't work. let me check on version just recently installed 10.10 so whatever the default is [02:18] is there a PPA for openoffice.org ? [02:19] 4.5.1 [02:19] openoffice ftw! [02:20] Daskreech: It's version 4.5.1 [02:21] poyntz: not for very long but you can just install from openoffice.org [02:21] beast: hmm I'm ... not sure why its not working. IF you want to run a small adventure you can upgrade to KDE 4.6 if you like [02:22] sounds fun! LOL [02:22] S74rk7: Pretty much unless you have a new kernel there is no >Need< to restart the machine. [02:22] thanks [02:22] beast: Look in the topic for the link [02:22] ok [02:24] S74rk7: Granted there are a number of occasions when rebooting is quite a bit faster than hunting things fown [02:24] down [02:24] Daskreech: you see that approach to an OS is genius to me! [02:25] S74rk7: There are easily computers that have not been restarted in very literally years [02:25] but have things upgraded and patched and reasonably new [02:25] Daskreech: Servers running linux? [02:26] always heard linux has a hand in the running of the internet... apache or something - I'm still new to all this...I got a list of names I'm gonna research lol :) [02:26] The internals are all linked to each other and rely on each other but can all individually and selectively be brought down, shut off, diagnosed, upgraded, fixed and reintroduced to the system without harming anything else [02:27] can somebody please walk me through on changing the dark color on non native kde menus [02:27] No the internet is Linux [02:27] they are really hard to read [02:27] Tr0074: You mean Gtk menus? [02:27] yeah I think so [02:29] anyone [02:29] Tr0074: Which application is giving you problem? [02:30] Transmission, firefox, thunderbird,etc. non of them I can read the menus because they are really dark [02:30] ha ha ok [02:30] !info oxygen-gtk [02:30] Package oxygen-gtk does not exist in maverick [02:30] Hmm [02:31] I am in maverick yes [02:31] ok [02:31] is it a particular theme or something you have applied? And the default colour is too dark? [02:32] and so you want to know how to access the theme/appearance settings and change the colours? [02:32] I am using the default theme [02:34] Tr0074: do you know how to add a PPA? [02:34] Daskreech: ALT+F2 "Colours" ... press Enter? think this would help out Tr0074? [02:34] colours [02:34] S74rk7: not from what I understand of the problem [02:35] more like alt+F2 -> Gtk [02:35] ok I'ma shut up and listen :) [02:35] Tr0074: What do you see set when you press alt+F2 -> gtk and open Gtk+ appearanc? [02:37] the GTK +appearance only display use the font on Gtk applications [02:37] Tr0074: is there anything set for Widget style? [02:37] I am using the QTCurve for style [02:37] Ok [02:38] should I select something different? [02:38] Hmm that .. should make some difference [02:38] https://launchpad.net/~nx/+archive/kdeppa [02:38] see if you can add that PPA [02:38] the instructions are ther on the page [02:50] anyone ever tried out BURG? http://code.google.com/p/burg/wiki/Screenshots [02:50] was thinking of giving it a shot - just wondering is it straight forward enough or should I wait and do a full system backup before messing with the likes or GRUB n stuff? -apologies if it seems off topic :) [02:51] this irc is very unestable [02:52] Tr0074: What client are you using? [02:53] this is Quassel [02:55] !netsplit [02:55] what is the name of this server? [02:55] freenode [02:56] node of freedom [02:56] libre el node' [02:56] la libertinaneous nodeus [02:57] Tr0074: ah Netsplit that might explain it [02:57] Tr0074: Freenode [02:58] o.k [02:58] thanks === jrizzo is now known as seme [02:59] no much of a quassel type of guy [02:59] I rejoined in Xchat [03:00] konversation alw [03:01] quasssel on kubuntu? [03:01] how inappropiate [03:01] wow!!! long time ubuntu user but recently switched to kde 4.6 and I have to say I'll never go back to gnome [03:01] :-) [03:01] I'm using Quassel on Kubuntu? [03:01] seme: Welcome [03:01] haha seme [03:01] S74rk7: That's fine :) lots of people like Konversation better [03:01] S74rk7: you don't count :P [03:01] hey seme are yous till using gtk applications? [03:02] I am having a hard time with them [03:02] Daskreech: lol right, gonna check it out - see what the fuss is about [03:02] tertl3: lol [03:03] the only apps I am using that aren't native qt/kde are monodevelop and firefox [03:03] what is your email manager? [03:04] I use web based email [03:04] weak [03:04] sha haa [03:04] hey it works [03:04] with a bunch of advertise about viagra sure [03:04] I use like 5 different computers a day and I hate keeping things in sync... imap and pop blow [03:04] naah... I block all ads [03:05] whats up everyone [03:05] warap! [03:05] you can select to keep all your mails in server so only from your main pc can delete them [03:06] yeah I just switch from gnome too [03:06] I have to say that honestly 4.6 is a huge leap... very nice [03:06] just feels complete and stable [03:06] fonts look great [03:06] mmm I dont know man [03:07] I dont feel quite at home in KDE [03:07] only thing that feels like it isn't great is rekonq... lots of sites with flash aren't working [03:07] yeah [03:07] TroN-0074: Black menus? :) [03:07] I still have konqueror too [03:07] Rekonq is very very young :) [03:07] yes I hate black menus [03:07] it will mature with time [03:08] TroN-0074: Try that ppa and switch the widget style to oxygen-gtk [03:08] I couldnt get that app to add in my sources [03:08] dude rekonq is like they wanted to make chrome for kde [03:09] TroN-0074: Not too far off :) [03:09] I also hate that every time I go to the help docs on an app it usually says no docs found [03:10] the only thing worse would be for it to find something but it only being boilerplate stuff [03:10] Hahaha and how do you like that crazy kwallet thing [03:10] seme: which applications do that? [03:10] akregator [03:10] at least thats the one I just tried [03:11] seme: Works here [03:11] TroN-0074: Kwallet is quite nice but needs some usabilty polish :) [03:12] also the authentication for software installation always has the password dialog below the other dialogs [03:12] odd [03:12] hmm that works for me as well [03:12] perhaps I don't have something running that I should [03:12] or maybe I just press alt+ctrl+A without thinking about it [03:13] seme: This is KDE 4.6 right ? [03:13] After adding those links to my software source I got the couldn't download all repository index problem [03:13] kmail too [03:13] yeah [03:13] yeah 4.6 [03:13] kmail too ask for too much information [03:13] TroN-0074: hmm [03:13] I think evolution just works [03:14] too bad evolution has very little support for web mail [03:14] seme: Kmail doesn't work for me [03:14] says Preparing Document and stays there forever [03:15] ha haa just install konqueror and went to youtube... first video that I tried to play crashed it [03:15] :( [03:15] thunderbird is a good one [03:15] TroN-0074: What information is Kmail asking? [03:15] I don't remember much about setting up the accounts but other than your real name I can't recall it needing anything out of the way [03:16] can someone else test something... go to youtube and click the plus sign on any of the videos... don't click the image itself or it will go to the video page... the + button is on the bottom right of the image and queues the video [03:16] crashes the app every time [03:17] Think I like Konversation better too :) [03:17] seme: Nope Kmail just popped up the handbook [03:17] I don't have flash installed so... [03:18] amarok is the best thing KDE has [03:19] and k9copy [03:19] Konqueror as well [03:19] k3b is pretty good too [03:19] k3b is not quite brasero [03:19] First burning software in the world to support Bluray I think :) [03:20] Well as long as neither of them are XcdRoast [03:20] takes 7 min in brasero to burn a dvd and takes 2 hours in k3b I dont know is something is not set right in my computer [03:21] What you guys make of blueray then? Was looking at a couple of drives for a media centre I want to build....run XBMC or something on it?? [03:21] XBMC might work but officially it's not legal to watch a commercial BluRay under Linux [03:22] TroN-0074: Hmm that's interesting I'll have to try that. Wonder what would cause that [03:22] yeah I dont know why k3b takes that long [03:23] I wish I had a blue ray burning installed in my PC [03:23] Daskreech: whats that you were saying about it not being legal to watch BluRay under linux? [03:23] but I am not at that level yet [03:23] TroN-0074: this is KDE 4.5 or 4.6 ? [03:23] how can I find that out? [03:24] 4.5.1 [03:24] S74rk7: The firmware that Blurays run on make it legally doubtful for them to be legally watched on anything that the User has control over [03:24] I remembered I had the kinfocenter [03:24] TroN-0074: Any KDE app -> help -> about KDE [03:25] now when you said you like konqueror were you talking about the internet browser of the file manager? [03:25] TroN-0074: I seem to remember something about K3b and Wodim [03:25] can't recall if that was for KDE 4.6 or 4.7 [03:26] but thatshould make things faster [03:26] ahhh [03:26] I like Konqueror as a viewer [03:26] yeah I am too new to KDE I still need to figure things out [03:26] I can open just about anything in the world in konqueror as long as KDE recognizes it and it should work [03:27] even M4a files? [03:27] I hate them [03:27] text files, JPGs, movies, Comic books, HTML files, SSH sessions to other computers, Git servers [03:28] long as Amarok or Juk can read them then yes Konqueror can read them too [03:28] that is good [03:29] It's ridiculously versatile but I guess jack of all trades doesn't really count unless you are a cell phone [03:30] dude bed time for me have a good night. Thanks for the help. I will keep trying [03:34] Daskreech: I am trying out Konqueror - pretty handy being able to view files and webpages under the one application :) [03:34] S74rk7: It's much worse [03:34] press ctrl+L [03:35] You can view them side by side [03:35] edit one and watch thechanges live on the other [03:35] Daskreech: when I press Ctrl+L - only thing it does is show a green light in bottom left corner and the world Cancelled... am I missing something? [03:35] and this works even if the file you are editing is on a computer on the other side of that [03:36] Whoops Ctrl+shift+L [03:36] That's vertical [03:37] S74rk7 ** Jumps up and down with excitment :) [03:37] lol [03:37] Ctrl+Shift+R for horizontal [03:37] So you can have one file open for the HTML one under it for the CSS and then view the results in the wide screen section [03:38] Or you know ssh into two different machines and manage moving files across from both of them to and from the local machine [03:39] Konqueror is starting to look like a savior to me now lol [03:39] It's immensely neat [03:39] great thought has went into that :) [03:39] I guess :) [03:40] Daskreech: Thanks for showing me that mate! :) [03:40] S74rk7: Want one more palpatation of the heart? [03:40] Daskreech: Always :) [03:40] open konqueror and type ~ in the address bar [03:40] What does that get you? [03:41] My home directory? :) [03:41] Isn't that Cooool? :) [03:41] that I would call sexy lol [03:42] Click on View -> View Mode -> File Size View [03:42] I think I've been converted from a Chromium user - I'm gonna play with this for a while - so handy :) --- how secure is it though, should I add the ppa? [03:43] S74rk7: Converted to what? Konqueror? [03:46] so anyone know much about gimp editoring etc? [03:46] Daskreech: yeah - It would be much more tidy for me atm - I'm moving a lot of files around, but reading up on things too... switching from desktops etc... the tab layout is great [03:46] S74rk7: oh yeah It has tabs too [03:46] :-D [03:47] the number of things you can do in Konqueror alone is amazing [03:47] Daskreech: I am already starting to see - thanks for the suggestion mate! :) [03:48] Daskreech: Just a quick question though, how does it way up in terms of security compared to the likes of chromium etc? Just in your opinion? [03:49] It's pretty good. I mean it was made to be both a File manager and Web browser so some thought went into Security for it [03:49] Daskreech: I mean "security" in terms of malicious coding/spyware etc online - and stability [03:49] It's still not as good a web browser as something dedicated [03:49] Daskreech: cool - gonna see if I can find an article or review on konqueror [03:50] In fact it's not as good a anything as something dedicated but it sure does get a lot of stuff done for one application [03:50] probably won't Konqueror has been around for closing in on Decades at this point [03:50] People review shiny things :) [03:50] Daskreech: Konversation is great too - its somehow more clear to use - but hey what do I know - only been on IRC 2 days lol [03:51] S74rk7: Quassel has some interesting tricks but Konversation is pretty straight [03:52] Daskreech: I think I'm gonna stick with something straight at the minute - I've got a lot to be taking in here with everything - but I did see something about executing commands when certain things are flagged? sounds interesting if I interprited it right :) [03:53] What's that in relation to? [03:54] S74rk7_: What's that in relation to? [03:54] In case you were starting quassel and missed that [03:54] hmm [03:55] !paste [03:55] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [03:55] S74rk7: you can add a pastebin plasmoid [03:55] makes uploading text and images way way way easier [03:56] Daskreech: does the cool s#it stop :) [03:57] Just when you were asking "What's that in relation to?" when I was talking about noticing something in Quassel - Seen something about running commands - heres a screenshot just for quick reference... http://imagebin.org/144790 [03:58] I only glanced... but it sounds pretty neat for my imagination lol :) [03:58] S74rk7: Oh yes standard KDE thing [03:59] all notifications can fire off events so things like flashing the Window or playing a sound [03:59] Popping up a bubble with info etc [04:00] You can also write your own commands and have them run so Like having someone in IRC say Who's up for a game of Multiplayer Solitare and the response is to just start the game [04:00] Or write a comand to send you a text message anytime a news article comes in about the company you started up [04:00] Your blowing my mind here! [04:00] lol [04:01] most people are far too lazy to do that :) but it's pretty much all doable if you want to [04:02] Or if you have nothing doing you can have a command that triggers a notification in another app that triggers a command that calls someone and triggers off somethign in another app that sets off fireworks in the yard and calls something else .... [04:02] Yeah that was something I heard about before - some guy one night - was pretty sleepy, but was waiting on a new distro of linux being released or something, so he didn't want to over sleep - he wrote some kind of script - something that was monitoring an RSS feed, so when it was updated it sent him a txt message to his phone with his own personalized message lol [04:03] I think thats what I recall - something along those lines - I just remember when I was reading it --- I wanna do that some day lol! :) [04:03] yeah pretty easy to pull off once you have somethings setup [04:05] I'd probably go as far as check a server for the release, pull the file and then compare it with the hash on the server to ensure it's complete( otherwise try again!) and when it's done shoot off an e-mail and a text to let me know it's done [04:05] Daskreech: See this is exactly the platform I wanna learn on - I wanna build and have everything talking - a custom built media center - but I've recently just found a package called "motion" --more or less can turn and USB webcam into a motion detecting camera... so I want to setup my own little personalised Mainframe... you know... big screen in the living room and can control everything --- Geeky I know lol - just for [04:05] fun - I'm a big kid lol [04:06] S74rk7: This is your playground [04:06] after a while playing here sitting in a living room looking through the Windows is just so ... soo [04:07] Daskreech: You must never get bored with all your knowledge so far with all these toys at your disposal :) I cant wait to get the hang of it all!! lol [04:07] S74rk7: no just frustrated [04:07] Daskreech: really how come? [04:07] Cause I really wanna play with that. But I'm still playing with this! [04:08] * Daskreech breaks down sobbing [04:09] Daskreech: Believe me when I say I know exactly what you mean - Linux has kicked off my imagination for so many different ideas - but I'm lost in where to start - when I'm just trying to pick up the basic's even now - I get distracted cuz I learn of something new and want to mess around with that - then I'm writing notes and have got about 500 bookmarks of things I wanna go back and try out.. lol.... I think I get what [04:09] your talking about lol [04:10] It really is very very sad [04:10] Daskreech: How did you write that action ??? you know you said "Daskreech breaks down sobbing" in blue writing lol [04:10] * Daskreech shrugs [04:10] * Daskreech is just skilled [04:10] lol [04:10] look at /me [04:10] lmao [04:11] which is like /join [04:11] irc commands start with a / at the beginning of a line [04:12] bot commands with ! ??? [04:13] No [04:13] well yes for here [04:13] You can make a robot do whatever you like but for here ! is the bot command [04:13] opps - I forgot I had launched Quassel too lol [04:13] :) [04:15] Daskreech: thanks again - I appreciate all the information and patience :) [04:15] Sure glad to help [04:15]