kristian_low-end 2007 desktop00:00
Unit193Dusting/blowing it out may help00:00
kristian_it keeps dying on me00:00
kristian_Unit193, did that00:00
kristian_next step is disassembling GPU and looking it over.... and check for bulged thingies00:00
aetherianwhen you say low-end00:01
kristian_I mean the cheapest I could find... 1 gig of ram, 3.2 ghz (I think)00:02
kristian_SiS, Foxconn... that kind of stuff00:02
aetherianoh definitely00:02
aetherianlubuntu should run fine on that00:03
aetheriannice and fast00:03
kristian_but is it less likely to overheat, do you think?00:03
aetherian'long as you don't make a habit of doing fork bombs00:03
aetherianbut, well, if I had a 1GB ram computer, I'd probably not run lubuntu myself00:05
kristian_it should be fine... I've ran it on 500 megs and I'm running it on 1.5 gigs now00:06
aetherianI should test min specs of it00:07
aetherianI run it on this computer, a gaming laptop, which has sweet specs.00:08
aetherianso it works A-OK on good computers :)00:08
kristian_would anyone know a good app/desklet thing for gmail and google calendar?00:09
MrChrisDruifkristian_: I just use it in my webbrowser00:17
MrChrisDruifBut I'm off...sleep well y'all00:18
kristian_see ya00:18
Unit193kristian_: Not the most lightweight, thunderbird+lightning00:19
kristian_I'm thinking of something to add to my menu bar perhaps00:20
Unit193Hello aguenter00:21
aetherianlinks is the best web browser :o00:21
aguentergot a bit of a problem, anyone mind trying to help me? :(00:21
aguentersmbd is either dead or livelocking during boot while trying to mount some cifs mounts that aren't available, and I can't do a damn thing except reboot00:23
aetherianyou can't uninstall it?00:24
aguenteruninstall what?00:24
aguenterit's during boot00:24
aguenterI can't even get a shell00:24
aetheriannevermind, it was a joke00:24
aetherianI'd, personally, boot into a live usb and delete whatever's causing problems00:24
aguenteryeah, that's the plan...but00:24
aguenterthis shouldn't happen, right?00:25
aguentersmbd shouldn't block indefinitely00:25
bioterrorhuh, whole screen is conky03:47
bioterrorI had to check scrollback ;)03:47
Mndrllhey guys, i have a laptop were i just install lubuntu 10.10 and everything works nice...08:35
Mndrllnow i am trying to decide between lubuntu or ubuntu (gnome) for my desktop08:36
Mndrllany advice??08:36
Mndrlli know lubuntu is a light weighted interface08:36
bioterrorwe cant make decission for you08:37
Mndrllbut does anyone uses it on a desktop???08:37
Mndrlland is it stable08:38
Mndrll any problem so far with anything__08:38
Mndrllim sorry im kinda new on linux08:39
Mndrllthats why im asking so much08:39
Mndrllwell....  ill try it...08:39
emce_PLevery laptop is different, has other parts, etc08:39
emce_PLso - ask if anyonehas just like yours08:40
Mndrllon my laptop is working just fine..08:40
emce_PLon mine - either08:40
Mndrll but i now it is meant to be light weighted for that purpose08:40
bioterrorthe only difference is desktop, everything beneath is same with ubuntu08:41
Mndrllbut using it for heavy duty things... its what im wondering if it works fine08:41
bioterrorif you dont like lubuntu on desktop, you can always install ubuntu-desktop meta package and remove lubuntu08:41
bioterror#define heavy duty things08:41
Mndrllohh ok, so it has nothing to do with the resources linux uses, its just interface thing08:42
Mndrlloh and by heavy duty i mean 3D rendering08:42
emce_PLyou SHOULD use lubuntu, cause it low resource - and You need it more08:43
Mndrllok but it is just an interface thing right__08:44
bioterrorinterfaces, daemons, tools08:44
Mndrllcause i have been using  (sorry guys) windows XP 64, cause its really stable08:44
Mndrllbut now im becoming proOpen source08:45
bioterrorjust becouse I use GNU/Linux, it doesnt mean that I hate Windows08:45
bioterrorI booted yesterday to windows and flashed my phone ;)08:45
Mndrlli understand actually i wont stop using it until there is a good software that replaces after effects and photoshop08:46
Mndrlllol, well guys, i think i will try Lubuntu to see how everything works08:46
emce_PLit's the best idea :)08:46
Mndrllthanks for the advices!! ill let you know how it go!08:47
Mndrllok ready to format!08:47
bioterrornothing is going to replace photoshop08:47
Mndrllsee you later!!!!08:47
bioterrorbut I can deal with GIMP08:47
bioterroras I need only to tweak curves and resize photos ;)08:47
Mndrlli have used it but i dont like it!08:47
Mndrllwell yeah08:48
Mndrll ill send you some links of the things i have done if i manage to install everything correctly!08:48
Mndrllthanks guys..08:48
Mndrll talk later08:48
bioterrorthere's software that's close to LR08:48
bioterrorbut nothing like LR at all tbqh08:48
Mndrllhey guys, one more question...08:51
Mndrllhave anyone used a Virtual Machine on lubuntu???  and how it works...??08:52
Mndrlleither VirtualBox or VMware??08:52
emce_PLVirtualbox works perfect08:54
Mndrlland what OS did you install on it??08:54
MndrllWindows 7??08:55
emce_PLany :)08:55
emce_PLI have at least 12 OS's08:55
Mndrll.... ok08:55
Mndrllwell im out... have formatting to do!08:56
emce_PLhey - quick question - do you have icon of network-manager in natty?11:25
szczurhmm, it should be there. however i didn't try natty livecd yet11:28
Mndrllhey does the version of lubuntu 10.10 have support for 64 bit?17:15
MrChrisDruifMndrll: You can't download a iso with Lubuntu 10.10 amd64, but with the mini-iso and the instructions you should be able to make it though :)17:19
MrChrisDruifNatty (11.04) is planned to have a 64 version downloadable17:20
MndrllMrChrisDruif, thanks, but can you explain a little bit?17:30
MrChrisDruifI'll try to find the instructions :)17:30
Mndrlli mean, i have been reading.. i found the mini-iso things but i really dont get how does it works.. i mean i have to install it instead of the normal Iso version??17:31
Mndrlli comes with less things? or what?17:32
Mndrllim installing lubuntu on my desktop machine but its a Quad with 8gb Ram...17:32
MrChrisDruifFound it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall17:32
Mndrllok ill read17:33
MrChrisDruifWhat is going on: you install a VERY minimal version of Ubuntu, you'll add a ppa to install Lubuntu GUI and then install it17:34
MrChrisDruifYou can switch this "sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop" for "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop"17:34
MrChrisDruifThat page is written to make a minimal install, but seeing you have a quad with 8GB of RAM, you can install everything no problem :)17:35
Mndrllohh ok so ill have to install it from scratch..17:36
MrChrisDruifThat --no-install-recommends withholds all "recommended" but not necessary software :)17:36
MrChrisDruifMndrll: Well, that mini-iso installs a decent base (which you can make into practically any version (Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Server)) and you only need to add an extra source and let the lubuntu-desktop meta-package do it's thing :)17:37
Mndrlloh ok17:39
MrChrisDruifMndrll: You understand what I mean?17:40
MndrllMrChrisDruif, yes i did, but, i have a lot to read, thanks a lot!!17:41
MndrllMrChrisDruif,  i have to be sure of what im doing17:41
MrChrisDruifMndrll: Are you coming from Windows? :)17:42
MndrllMrChrisDruif, kind of.... i have being using also OpenSuse17:43
Mndrllbut i have never got to install things like this....17:43
Mndrlli know a little (really little) about using the terminal17:43
MrChrisDruifWell, it's like a GUI, but with only text :D17:44
Mndrllok, but it installs all the normal packages?17:44
MrChrisDruifGUI is only a graphical way of representing the chooses you have, most of the time also limited :D17:44
Mndrllok ok17:44
Mndrlland the normal repos?17:45
Mndrllor just the basic ones and then ill have to install them?17:45
MrChrisDruiflubuntu-desktop isn't in the normal Ubuntu repos (yet, we're working hard on that), that is why you'd have to add the Personal P.... Archive, which is an extra repository. That sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop installs all the normal applications :)17:50
MndrllMrChrisDruif, sorry for being bothering so much.... if you can help me while im doing the installation will be great!17:52
MrChrisDruifMndrll: Sure, but I'm heating my dinner also so don't expect the fastest responds :P17:53
MrChrisDruifAnd no problem :)17:53
Mndrllits ok!17:53
stlsaintinstall of lubuntu?17:53
MndrllMrChrisDruif, thanks let me boot my laptop to start17:54
MrChrisDruifstlsaint: lubuntu 64 bit :)17:54
Mndrlli have lubuntu on my laptop it works nice... so i just want to install it on my desktop17:57
MrChrisDruifI suggested to him to switch sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop with sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop as he's not interested in a minimal install, but 64bit (from thist link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall)17:58
MrChrisDruifstlsaint: was it a good call of me to remove the --no-install-recommends for Mndrll?18:04
gchan_ok im ready now18:05
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MrChrisDruifGo for it Mndrll :)18:07
Mndrllok so that mini-iso is something i have to download first?18:10
stlsaintMrChrisDruif: not sure that command really makes the install a minimal18:12
MrChrisDruifMndrll: Yes :)18:13
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MrChrisDruifstlsaint: As Mndrll is looking for a 64 version instead of minimal, that's why I suggested it :)18:13
stlsaintis there no 64 bit iso to download?18:14
MrChrisDruifafaik not, plans are for natty and lucid18:18
stlsaintman i been away too long18:23
MrChrisDruifstlsaint: didn't you read the mailing list? :)18:24
stlsaintbeen busy18:24
MrChrisDruifMndrll: How's it going?18:26
Mndrllnow, i was reading and... isnt it the same thing to install Ubuntu with GNOME and then just sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop....???18:29
stlsaintthe lubuntu desktop is lxde18:33
MrChrisDruifstlsaint: no?18:33
stlsaintdoing install lubuntu-desktop will not get you a lubuntu system18:33
Mndrllok i think i missexplain...18:34
MrChrisDruifI will be a lot less messy if you install the mini iso and lubuntu-desktop18:34
Mndrlli am using Lubuntu for my laptop, i think its really fast and its meant for themç18:35
Mndrllbut on my desktop, i just want the LXDE interface18:35
Mndrll that i like it a lot18:35
stlsaintok than in that case lubuntu-desktop should work18:36
Mndrllwell i wont install a mini iso, i will install the complete Ubuntu 64 version18:36
Mndrlland then just change the GUI18:36
MrChrisDruifMndrll: it will work, but you'll get a lot of apps you don't normally have in Lubuntu18:36
stlsaintits called changing your desktop environment18:36
Mndrllbut those apps are good for a daily workstation arent they?18:37
MrChrisDruifAs LXDE (Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment) is more lightweight, it's useful on more older systems. But it's not MEANT on any particular system...that's what Mac OS X is for ;)18:38
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Mndrllthanks guys!18:54
MrChrisDruifIt worked Mndrll?18:56
Mndrllworking on it18:56
Mndrllill let you know for sure guys!18:57
MrChrisDruifAwesome Mndrll :)18:57
MrChrisDruifHai shuttle :)19:56
MrChrisDruifMndrll: Still going strong?19:56
shuttleits my first time using lubuntu and i got some questions19:57
shuttleis there any (german) website where i can find some answers19:57
shuttlelike switching desktops from keyboard, installing firefox and so on?19:58
MrChrisDruifInstalling software isn't to hard, just go to synaptic and find if it's there. If not, try to find a deb or even better ppa which has your software :)20:00
MrChrisDruifAbout the german site: I'm asking someone I know if he knows any...20:00
MrChrisDruifIsn't there something like ubuntu.de or ubuntu-de.org or something? Otherwise wiki.ubuntu.com, help.ubuntu.com, askubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.com(??) are good places to search :)20:02
MrChrisDruifOther then google ofcourse :)20:02
shuttlek thx20:02
shuttleim a linux noob just used mint because no need to install anything20:03
shuttlecan i install all software for ubuntu on lubuntu?20:03
shuttleand where do i get viruses20:03
MrChrisDruifIt used the default repos of Ubuntu...20:03
MrChrisDruifshuttle: You WANT viruses? =-O20:04
shuttledont want to :)20:04
shuttlesynaptic seems safe, is it right?20:04
MrChrisDruifSynaptic only uses the repos of Ubuntu, so it's safe :)20:05
shuttleinstalling over terminal by downloading from web seems unsafe20:05
MrChrisDruif....you can add your own PPA, but be sure to only use trusted sources :)20:05
shuttleand whats PPA?20:05
NRWlionthere was a german asked for?20:06
MrChrisDruifHow do you mean shuttle?20:06
MrChrisDruifYeah, it was I ;)20:06
NRWlionwhats the matter?20:06
MrChrisDruifshuttle: NRWlion knows a bit of German, maybe it's easier in your own language?20:06
shuttlei asked for german lubuntu sites where i can find a introduce20:07
NRWlionshuttle, you know how querry / pm work on irc?20:07
MrChrisDruifAnd ppa is Personal Package(?) Archive, it's where developers can put new(er) software in and update it without waiting for Ubuntu to update their stuff :)20:08
NRWlionthen hit me ;) maybe i can get you some introduce20:08
shuttlek thx20:09
Mndrlleverything is ok20:13
NRWlionMrChrisDruif, i talked to shuttle and he wants to know a way to switch desktops via keyboard. i told him the possibility of "Desktop-Pager" for taskbar. maybe you can help out?20:14
MrChrisDruifDesktop-pager, never heard of it :)20:14
NRWlionthose little two buttons on the taskbar when you are on gui20:16
shuttlei see20:16
MrChrisDruifNRWlion: Still not installed Lubuntu ;) but doesn't CRTL+ALT+arrow key work?20:16
MrChrisDruifleft and right in this case?20:16
shuttlecrtl alt works20:17
NRWlionworks. tried it20:17
shuttleis it possible to change?20:17
MrChrisDruifI would think it would, no way to search myself, but I believe there is some Preferences menu somewhere...20:18
MrChrisDruifShould also hold Keyboard Shortcuts20:18
MrChrisDruifOr something like that :P20:20
NRWlioni am out here ^^ to much newbie myself ;)20:20
MrChrisDruifUsing Ubuntu myself....I *will* also install Lubuntu natty :D20:21
MrChrisDruifIn dual-boot...20:22
MrChrisDruifSo just over a month I'll go dual-boot20:22
NRWlioni am totally fine with lubuntu20:22
NRWliondont need the big brother20:22
shuttleseems like the desktop-page isnt active20:24
MrChrisDruifHow do you mean shuttle?20:29
shuttleby clickin only switches to first desktop20:29
shuttlenumber of desktop dont works too20:30
MrChrisDruifRight-clicking to change?20:30
shuttlepanel-settings is grey20:30
shuttlenow it works20:32
shuttleby editing in the openbox-config20:32
shuttlethx for the help20:33
MrChrisDruifYour welcome shuttle :)20:34
NRWlionshuttle MrChrisDruif is the man around here ;) he also helped me out and now i am part of this community here ;)20:36
* MrChrisDruif hides in a cave20:37
MrChrisDruifgilir is way more up ;) he's head of dev20:37
kosaidpo|hello guys20:38
shuttlexfce4-settings seems the right to change the keyboardbindings20:38
kosaidpo|idk why i dont have .autostat file  can i make one witohut facing any problem20:38
shuttlethx again20:42
NRWlioncu shuttle20:42
kosaidpo|hello guys21:05
kosaidpo|cant make apache2 stop fom lunchin durin boot : [21:05
kosaidpo|i did update-rc.d -f apache remove but  it didnt work21:06
MrChrisDruifI don't know kosaidpo| :)21:07
kosaidpo|it doesnt seem to work in either ways : [ MrChrisDruif  tnx21:08
kosaidpo|btw icant find my .autostart file in my home21:08
kosaidpo|any idea21:08
MrChrisDruifNope...mind is shutting down it seems...21:09
MrChrisDruifclearness is loosing :P21:09
NRWlionso with me :( sorry21:09
kosaidpo|guys icant make one cus i idid n put it in .config/openbox/.autostart but it didnt wok : P21:10
Mndrllhey guys everything works prefect!!23:41
Mndrllthanks to all23:41
MrChrisDruifAwesome Mndrll :D23:41
MrChrisDruifGood that I didn't leave just yet :P23:42
MndrllMrChrisDruif, thanks a lot!23:42
MrChrisDruifYour welcome Mndrll :)23:42
MrChrisDruifWell, I was about too leave Mndrll ;)23:42
MndrllMrChrisDruif, well, take care see you around!23:42
MrChrisDruifAlright, thanks and indeed: see you around :) (Btw, we've got a team area @ #lubuntu-offtopic :P)23:43
Mndrlloh great!23:44
MrChrisDruifYour welcome :)23:45

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