[06:23] <duanedesign> morning all
[06:23] <akgraner> duanedesign, good morning
[06:24] <duanedesign> hey akgraner !
[06:24] <duanedesign> akgraner: hows things?
[06:24] <akgraner> great...
[06:24] <akgraner> finally :-)
[06:25] <duanedesign> akgraner: are things getting back to normal (home-wise)
[06:26] <akgraner> nods
[06:26] <duanedesign> :)
[06:26] <akgraner> I have an office now  :-) with a white board and cork board - so it's official now ;-)
[06:27] <duanedesign> aha, I <3 white boards
[06:28] <akgraner> Was at a lab yesterday whose walls were all white boards
[06:28] <akgraner> it was awesome
[06:29] <nigelb> akgraner: do you have a server now? :)
[06:30] <akgraner> hehe I do
[06:31] <duanedesign> fun
[06:31] <akgraner> well I have 2 of them - one is a dell mini that I am using as a server and one is in the cloud <----kim0 :-) (see I am embracing the cloud on the personal user level)
[06:32] <duanedesign> i have 3 old power pc macs that i would like to use as servers
[06:34] <akgraner> I am learning a lot ...and I found a lot of helpful information in the Ubuntu Server Book...
[06:34] <nigelb> +1 for that
[06:34] <nigelb> Even I boght that one
[06:34] <duanedesign> akgraner: i am always finding fun things to use my server for
[06:35] <nigelb> akgraner: Weren't you a reviewer for that book..? ;)
[06:35] <akgraner> nods
[06:35] <akgraner> not for the server book
[06:35] <akgraner> just the official ubuntu book
[06:36] <nigelb> Aha!
[06:53] <duanedesign> interesting the technical board votes 5-0 to not enable ubuntu-restricted-* installation by default
[06:54] <duanedesign> that happened 12hrs ago, probably old news in our twitterific world.
[06:55] <nigelb> It makes sense.
[07:02] <duanedesign> nigelb: yeah. I am reading the ubuntu-meeting loogs now
[07:03] <duanedesign> the loogs and the logs
[07:03] <duanedesign> :)
[07:03] <nigelb> duanedesign: bad day for spelling huh?
[07:04] <duanedesign> lately it has been worse then usual
[07:04] <duanedesign> i dont know what is up
[07:04] <duanedesign> maybe i need to work on some typing refresher coureses
[07:04] <duanedesign> ugh
[07:05] <duanedesign> nigelb: i like this quote from the meeting "for me, this is a line in the sand - I don't really see a point in taking a stance on free software if we're going to give up when it's hard"
[07:05] <nigelb> hehe
[07:40] <dholbach> good morning
[07:40] <duanedesign> o/
[07:41] <nigelb> ohai there dholbach
[07:41] <dholbach> hi nigelb, duanedesign
[07:57] <kim0> Morning
[07:57] <kim0> dholbach: nigelb duanedesign hey o/
[07:57] <dholbach> hey kim0
[08:01] <duanedesign> hello kim0
[08:01] <kim0> hey :)
[08:08] <duanedesign> what is a lens, in regards to unity?
[08:09] <duanedesign> ahh, i see
[08:10] <dholbach> duanedesign, pun intended? :)
[08:10] <duanedesign> lol
[08:10] <dholbach> I'm sure jcastro would love that one :)
[08:10] <duanedesign> how is a lens different then places?
[08:11]  * dholbach doesn't know
[08:12] <duanedesign> aha!
[08:12] <duanedesign> dholbach: found the answer - Lenses used to be known as Places.
[08:15] <dholbach> hola dpm
[08:19] <dpm> hola dholbach
[08:19] <dpm> good morning all
[08:27] <kim0> dpm: Morning man o/
[08:29] <dpm> hey kim0!
[08:50] <czajkowski> Morning
[09:01] <nigelb> hey kim0 :)
[09:01] <kim0> nigelb: hey :)
[09:01] <nigelb> duanedesign: good one :)
[12:32] <kim0> guys .. is irc logs fully permenant .. like will #ubuntu-classroom logs of yesterday be available years from now ?
[12:35] <Pici> kim0: There are already a few years of irc logs out there, I don't see why they'd ever be removed.
[12:35] <Pici> !irclogs
[12:35] <ubot2> Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[12:35] <kim0> great
[12:35] <kim0> Pici: thanks
[12:35] <Pici> kim0: no problem
[13:29] <james_w> Nicaragua!
[13:29] <nigelb> debconf?
[13:30] <james_w> yeah
[13:38] <nigelb> \o/
[15:56] <nigelb> Please RT http://twitter.com/#!/nigelbabu/status/51311094739894272
[15:58] <cjohnston> nigelb: no hashtags?
[15:58] <nigelb> cjohnston: I fail
[15:58] <nigelb> cjohnston: rying again
[15:58] <nigelb> *trying again
[15:58] <cjohnston> Just rt mine
[15:58] <cjohnston> lol
[15:59] <cjohnston> https://twitter.com/#!/chris_johnston/status/51311982846029824
[15:59] <cjohnston> :-P
[15:59]  * nigelb does
[15:59] <nigelb> fixed http://twitter.com/#!/nigelbabu/status/51312177243631616
[16:02]  * kim0 joins the RT fest
[16:02] <nigelb> heh
[16:02] <cjohnston> hey kim0
[16:03] <kim0> cjohnston: hey o/
[16:03] <jcastro> jono: can you tweet skaet's Q+A? it's in 30 min
[16:04] <jono> jcastro, yep
[16:06] <dpm> doctormo, did you have the chance to think about the ground control session we were talking about the other day for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek?
[16:07] <dpm> nigelb, are you up for your project lightning talks on any of the extra slots? ^^
[16:07] <nigelb> dpm: yup
[16:09] <dpm> nigelb, fantastic - do you think you could add it to the timetable?
[16:09] <nigelb> dpm: doing that right now :)
[16:09] <dpm> excellent :)
[16:27] <nigelb> jcastro: who built the app for stackexchange thing?
[16:27] <jcastro> stephano
[16:28] <jcastro> he's in #ayatana now btw
[16:28] <nigelb> awesome, I'll catch him
[16:30] <jcastro> jono: you introing kate or should I?
[16:33] <jono> jcastro, can you do it
[16:33] <jono> I am on calls
[16:33] <jcastro> ok
[16:33] <jcastro> already started
[16:34] <jono> thanks jcastro
[17:53] <kim0> dholbach: so why are those 17 opportunities hidden http://harvest.ubuntu.com/opportunities/package/iptraf/ :)
[17:56] <dholbach> kim0, the only explanation I have right now is that it's opportunities that are already closed
[17:56] <dholbach> in any case it's misleading
[17:56] <dholbach> do you think you can file a bug on lp:harvest about that?
[17:56] <kim0> sure
[17:56] <dholbach> I'm sure Dylan can figure out what's going on there
[17:57] <dholbach> thanks a bunch kim0!
[17:57] <dholbach> now it's weekend time for me
[17:57] <dholbach> have a great WE every one
[17:57]  * dholbach hugs you all
[17:57] <kim0> \o/
[17:57] <nigelb> g'nite dholbach :)
[18:01] <cjohnston> jcastro: is it not possible to click both buttons on the lappy mousepad to open a new window
[18:04] <jcastro> that should work
[18:05] <cjohnston> it isnt on 2d
[18:07] <jcastro> oh that could be a bug
[18:17] <jono> jcastro, btw, the askubuntu place still doenst work for me
[18:17] <jcastro> jono: you have the PPA?
[18:17] <jono> jcastro, yep
[18:17] <jono> the one I installed the other day
[18:17] <jcastro> and you're all up to date?
[18:17] <jono> yep, as of yesterday
[18:18] <jono> how do I debug this?
[18:18] <jcastro> you need to be uptodate as of today
[18:18] <jcastro> the unity packaging was broken for python so they had to upload a fix
[18:19] <jcastro> I wasn't around when they found the problem, the author told ken and he uploaded a fix early today iirc
[18:21] <jcastro> jono: the fix was in dee, you need this update: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/natty-changes/2011-March/010184.html
[18:21] <jcastro> which was published about 2 hours ago
[18:22] <jono> jcastro, which package is the fix in?
[18:22] <jcastro> dee
[18:22] <jono> dee
[18:22] <jono> ok
[18:22] <jcastro> you need to be on dee 0.5.16-0ubuntu5
[18:22] <jcastro> then restart unity (which gets old after a while, heh)
[18:23] <jono> upgrading now
[18:42] <jcastro> jono: worked?
[18:44] <jono> jcastro, nope
[18:44] <jono> not sure it installed dee though
[18:44] <jono> just libdee
[18:44] <jono> libgir-dee
[18:44] <jcastro> hmmm, join me in #ayatana, I'll snag ken
[19:25] <MeanEYE> evening!
[19:26] <MeanEYE> looking for mr. jono :)
[19:26] <jono> hey MeanEYE
[19:26] <MeanEYE> good evening :D
[19:26] <jono> hey
[19:26] <MeanEYE> I tried finding ppl responsible for Lernid
[19:26] <Pici> jono: MeanEYE was looking into trying to help with Lernid, I thought I'd point him in your direction.
[19:26] <MeanEYE> ^^ thanks Pici
[19:27] <MeanEYE> doesn't really have to be Lernid. I just happen to have some free time and lot's of good will
[19:27] <MeanEYE> so :D
[19:29] <pleia2> #ubuntu-classroom-backstage is probably a better place to ask, the only active dev on lernid right now is nhandler and he's just there to help push along patches (doesn't have time to actively work on it, it's pretty broken for maverick and we don't recommend people use it)
[19:29] <jono> Pici, thanks!
[19:29] <jono> MeanEYE, yeah, Lernid needs a new maintainer
[19:29] <jono> but you should contact it's current maintainer mbudde
[19:29] <jono> he doesn't have time for it these days
[19:29] <pleia2> he hasn't responded in a while :(
[19:30] <MeanEYE> hm, so is the project abandoned
[19:30] <MeanEYE> I mean do you plan on developing it
[19:30] <MeanEYE> not YOU but... you know :D
[19:31] <pleia2> if you're interested in taking a lead on it we certainly welcome it :) nhandler can get your patches merged and such, and add you to the dev team when it gets to that point
[19:31] <MeanEYE> hm, am just asking what are the plans because if its broken in Maverick, are there plans to be used in Natty?
[19:31] <MeanEYE> but yeah, I can help out
[19:32] <pleia2> no, since there is no one to work on it
[19:32] <MeanEYE> but generally that's the only problem?
[19:32] <pleia2> yeah
[19:32] <MeanEYE> no biggie then
[19:32] <pleia2> I suggest to get started you grab the source, pick a bug, and come hang out with us in #ubuntu-classroom-backstage :)
[19:32] <MeanEYE> hm, sure, give me a moment
[19:33] <MeanEYE> should I leave from here?
[19:33] <pleia2> you're welcome to stay
[19:33] <MeanEYE> ty
[19:34] <pleia2> the classroom team just hangs out in the other channel, so it's a better place for development discussion
[19:34] <jono> MeanEYE, the project is in desperate need of help
[19:34] <jono> I don't have time
[19:34] <jono> thanks MeanEYE!
[19:34] <MeanEYE> it's ok :D
[19:34] <MeanEYE> I'll see what I can do
[20:11] <MeanEYE> jono: quick question, who can I ask about some basic things about Lernid, to get me started?
[20:14] <jono> MeanEYE, I haven't hacked on it for ages, it is all different now, so I am not a good person to ask
[20:15] <MeanEYE> hm, ok... thought you might know who was in charge (or is now)
[20:19] <akgraner> woo hoo - I gots more screen real estate  - I now have a 25" monitor...my hubby <3's me..
[20:19] <akgraner> how did I ever live with just a 15" notebook...  thinking dual monitors would now be the bees knees
[20:20] <jcastro> I can't live without multiple monitors
[20:20] <akgraner> this is awesome...
[20:21] <akgraner> Pete has dual monitors and he says the same thing
[20:22] <jcastro> actually I have 3
[20:23] <akgraner> dang
[20:23] <akgraner> that's awesome!
[20:24] <Technoviking> I just want one BIG monitor
[20:34] <akgraner> Technoviking, how big is big...
[20:37] <jcastro> one of those wrap around ones
[20:39] <jcastro> http://ces.cnet.com/8301-13855_1-9842798-67.html?tag=more
[20:39] <jcastro> :D
[21:03] <Technoviking> 24" viewsonic, want to get a 27" one one day
[21:10] <akgraner> nice...
[21:10] <akgraner> hey jcastro are do you have multi-monitor support working with natty?
[21:14] <jcastro> yeah
[21:15] <czajkowski> peeka boo
[21:19] <akgraner> jcastro great thanks
[21:19] <akgraner> jcastro what graphics cards are you using
[21:19] <jcastro> nvidia
[21:20] <akgraner> ahh we have intell here and well guess what is not working
[21:20] <jcastro> I didn't even know intel could drive 2 monitors
[21:20] <jcastro> (other than the laptop use case I mean)
[21:22] <akgraner> hmmmm