| CIA-31 | ubiquity: evand * revan.dandrea@canonical.com-20110325093421-38jnps9jeqpugrx7 ubiquity.trunk/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/plugins/ubi-partman.py): | 09:34 |
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| CIA-31 | ubiquity: Do not consider Windows Recovery partitions in the list of operating | 09:34 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: systems. | 09:34 |
| seb128 | hi | 13:19 |
| seb128 | ev, hey | 13:19 |
| seb128 | ev, should I open a bug on launchpad about the keyboard dialog I gave you a screenshot about yesterday? | 13:19 |
| ev | seb128: yes please | 14:27 |
| ev | and assign it to me as well | 14:27 |
| ev | so it doesn't get lost | 14:27 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: evand * revan.dandrea@canonical.com-20110325143318-m4lvuvv0gajv7shs ubiquity/ (9 files in 4 dirs): | 14:33 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: Add unit tests, which can be run via ./tests/run or by building the | 14:33 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: package. To override a failing test causing the package build to | 14:33 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: fail, use the UBIQUITY_NO_TESTS environment variable. | 14:33 |
| seb128 | ev, ok, do you need any log of details for it? | 14:57 |
| ev | seb128: ideally a run with `ubiquity -d` followed by ubuntu-bug ubiquity, but if you don't have time for it don't worry too much | 14:58 |
| seb128 | ev, well, I can take time for it, I just don't want to spend time collecting infos if those are not really useful | 14:59 |
| seb128 | like if you can reproduce the issue and will debug it locally there is probably no need for my infos | 14:59 |
| seb128 | ev, let's say I will open the bug with the screenshot and I'm available any day if you need extra infos? | 15:00 |
| ev | I wouldn't worry about it, to be honest. As you suggest, I should be able to reproduce it | 15:00 |
| seb128 | it's easy to do, it does it on any french install I try | 15:00 |
| ev | sounds good :) | 15:00 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:00 |
| dlyneshome | Is there a reason why some pkgsel/include directives don't actually get installed, and some do? | 15:05 |
| dlyneshome | In particular minicom (the last pkgsel/include I have gets installed), and libqt4-dev (one of the middle pkgsel/include directives doesn't get installed) | 15:06 |
| cjwatson | check the installer syslog | 15:08 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, if you're doing preseeding, where does it get dumped? | 15:09 |
| cjwatson | /var/log/installer/syslog in the installed system regardless of whether you're doing preseeding or not | 15:10 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, ok, thanks | 15:10 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, btw...in the installer is security.ubuntu.com an alias for archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/ ? | 15:12 |
| cjwatson | no | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | I mean, they generally refer to the same content | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | but the installer doesn't implement any aliasing, it goes to security.ubuntu.com | 15:13 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, so are there any mirrors for security.ubuntu.com, then? security.ubuntu.com only works about 5% of the time for me | 15:13 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, and all the mirrors on the ubuntu mirror listing only mirror archive.ubuntu.com | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | I think you misunderstand me | 15:14 |
| dlyneshome | Ok, so the ubuntu website implements aliasing on their side, then? | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | we deliberately prefer security.ubuntu.com to be a single site, so that security updates are propagated quickly | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | the same packages are on archive.ubuntu.com in the *-security suites, so you can use those if it works better for you | 15:14 |
| dlyneshome | ah, ok...cool | 15:15 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, thanks, muchly | 15:15 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, so I'll just implement it as a symbolic link on my mirror, then | 15:15 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, it'll definitely free up drive space so that I can maintain more distributions, too | 15:21 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, btw...do you think a bash script that automates the mirroring process would be useful to other ubuntu users? | 15:22 |
| cjwatson | there are quite a lot of mirroring scripts out there already - it would be better to improve an existing one | 15:22 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, oh...didn't even know there were any | 15:23 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, I wrote one about a year ago, and I've been consistently ironing bugs out of it | 15:23 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, is there a worthy one you could suggest? | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | there are loads. I use debmirror | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | you can 'apt-cache search mirror' and skip the ones that have nothing to do with package mirroring | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | you'll probably end up with half a dozen or so | 15:25 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, it looks like they're all agnostic as to which particular debian derivative you're using? | 15:26 |
| cjwatson | I can't speak for all of them, but I expect they should generally not care | 15:26 |
| cjwatson | the archive format is the same | 15:26 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, so they'll allow you to fine-grain it as well, so that you can choose which distribution you want to mirror? | 15:27 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, I currently keep jaunty, lucid, karmic, and maverick in all completely separate directories, with their own pool directories | 15:28 |
| cjwatson | I expect that not all of them will; debmirror does | 15:28 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, ok, thanks again | 15:28 |
| cjwatson | it's a bit silly to keep separate pools for separate releases though, don't you think? | 15:28 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, No, not really | 15:28 |
| cjwatson | the purpose of the pool structure is to share common versions of packages across releases | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | that's the entire reason it was created | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | that's why it's called pool :-) | 15:29 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, It was actually a requirement put on my mirroring script from management | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | your management is daft then | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | TBPH :) | 15:29 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, they wanted to be able to retire and archive old releases, so that they're not consuming drive space | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | you can do that just fine with pools | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | you drop the dists subtree and garbage-collect | 15:30 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, that will delete it...not archive it | 15:30 |
| cjwatson | so you modify your garbage-collector ... | 15:30 |
| cjwatson | this honestly isn't that hard | 15:30 |
| cjwatson | a common pool saves a *lot* of space | 15:31 |
| dlyneshome | yeah, but if you have separate pool directories, you don't have to write any additional code | 15:31 |
| cjwatson | so if your management cares about drive space, they should care about this | 15:31 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, well, 32-bit and 64-bit lucid only uses up 63GB's | 15:32 |
| dlyneshome | cjwatson, and generally I'll only have four distributions on the mirror at any one time | 15:32 |
| cjwatson | anyway, I suppose it's none of my business what way you want to manage your mirror | 15:32 |
| dlyneshome | erm actually 6 distributions | 15:33 |
| cjwatson | it's just not how I recommend people do it | 15:33 |
| dlyneshome | such as 8.04, 8.1, 9.04, 9.1, 10.04 | 15:33 |
| dlyneshome | so that there's always at least two LTS releases | 15:34 |
| cjwatson | as a point of information, it's 8.10 (etc.), not 8.1 | 15:34 |
| cjwatson | the 10 is a month | 15:34 |
| dlyneshome | oh, ok...thought it was just an arbitrary versioning | 15:34 |
| cjwatson | year.month | 15:34 |
| dlyneshome | thanks for the info | 15:34 |
| dlyneshome | ah...so releases every six months, and LTS's every 2 years | 15:35 |
| cjwatson | yes | 15:35 |
| dlyneshome | didn't realize ubuntu had been around for ten years | 15:35 |
| cjwatson | we haven't | 15:35 |
| cjwatson | our first release was 4.10 | 15:35 |
| dlyneshome | ah...even still six years | 15:36 |
| dlyneshome | I didn't even hear of ubuntu until about 4 years ago | 15:36 |
| dlyneshome | It was being offered up as an OSX alternative at the one user group at that time | 15:37 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: evand * revan.dandrea@canonical.com-20110325154319-3jt3n3v8rslgpqiz ubiquity/tests/test_ubi_partman.py: Fix broken tests around the advanced partitioning debconf string. Teach question_has_variables to check in extended descriptions as well. | 15:43 |
| seb128 | ev, bug #742558 | 15:45 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 742558 in ubiquity ""Keep default keyboard layout ..." dialog is confusing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/742558 | 15:45 |
| ev | seb128: much appreciated, thanks | 15:45 |
| seb128 | ev, thank you for looking into it ;-) | 15:48 |
| seb128 | ev: btw jibel ran into that issue in a japanese install as well so it's not only me and not only french | 15:55 |
| ev | okay, good to know | 15:55 |
| ev | thanks | 15:55 |
| seb128 | np | 15:55 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r4608 trunk/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/i18n.py): | 17:49 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: Start debconf in ubiquity.i18n.reset_locale if it isn't already running | 17:49 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: (LP: #649895). | 17:49 |
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