[09:34] ubiquity: evand * revan.dandrea@canonical.com-20110325093421-38jnps9jeqpugrx7 ubiquity.trunk/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/plugins/ubi-partman.py): [09:34] ubiquity: Do not consider Windows Recovery partitions in the list of operating [09:34] ubiquity: systems. [13:19] hi [13:19] ev, hey [13:19] ev, should I open a bug on launchpad about the keyboard dialog I gave you a screenshot about yesterday? [14:27] seb128: yes please [14:27] and assign it to me as well [14:27] so it doesn't get lost [14:33] ubiquity: evand * revan.dandrea@canonical.com-20110325143318-m4lvuvv0gajv7shs ubiquity/ (9 files in 4 dirs): [14:33] ubiquity: Add unit tests, which can be run via ./tests/run or by building the [14:33] ubiquity: package. To override a failing test causing the package build to [14:33] ubiquity: fail, use the UBIQUITY_NO_TESTS environment variable. [14:57] ev, ok, do you need any log of details for it? [14:58] seb128: ideally a run with `ubiquity -d` followed by ubuntu-bug ubiquity, but if you don't have time for it don't worry too much [14:59] ev, well, I can take time for it, I just don't want to spend time collecting infos if those are not really useful [14:59] like if you can reproduce the issue and will debug it locally there is probably no need for my infos [15:00] ev, let's say I will open the bug with the screenshot and I'm available any day if you need extra infos? [15:00] I wouldn't worry about it, to be honest. As you suggest, I should be able to reproduce it [15:00] it's easy to do, it does it on any french install I try [15:00] sounds good :) [15:00] ok [15:05] Is there a reason why some pkgsel/include directives don't actually get installed, and some do? [15:06] In particular minicom (the last pkgsel/include I have gets installed), and libqt4-dev (one of the middle pkgsel/include directives doesn't get installed) [15:08] check the installer syslog [15:09] cjwatson, if you're doing preseeding, where does it get dumped? [15:10] /var/log/installer/syslog in the installed system regardless of whether you're doing preseeding or not [15:10] cjwatson, ok, thanks [15:12] cjwatson, btw...in the installer is security.ubuntu.com an alias for archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/ ? [15:13] no [15:13] I mean, they generally refer to the same content [15:13] but the installer doesn't implement any aliasing, it goes to security.ubuntu.com [15:13] cjwatson, so are there any mirrors for security.ubuntu.com, then? security.ubuntu.com only works about 5% of the time for me [15:14] cjwatson, and all the mirrors on the ubuntu mirror listing only mirror archive.ubuntu.com [15:14] I think you misunderstand me [15:14] Ok, so the ubuntu website implements aliasing on their side, then? [15:14] we deliberately prefer security.ubuntu.com to be a single site, so that security updates are propagated quickly [15:14] the same packages are on archive.ubuntu.com in the *-security suites, so you can use those if it works better for you [15:15] ah, ok...cool [15:15] cjwatson, thanks, muchly [15:15] cjwatson, so I'll just implement it as a symbolic link on my mirror, then [15:21] cjwatson, it'll definitely free up drive space so that I can maintain more distributions, too [15:22] cjwatson, btw...do you think a bash script that automates the mirroring process would be useful to other ubuntu users? [15:22] there are quite a lot of mirroring scripts out there already - it would be better to improve an existing one [15:23] cjwatson, oh...didn't even know there were any [15:23] cjwatson, I wrote one about a year ago, and I've been consistently ironing bugs out of it [15:24] cjwatson, is there a worthy one you could suggest? [15:24] there are loads. I use debmirror [15:24] you can 'apt-cache search mirror' and skip the ones that have nothing to do with package mirroring [15:25] you'll probably end up with half a dozen or so [15:26] cjwatson, it looks like they're all agnostic as to which particular debian derivative you're using? [15:26] I can't speak for all of them, but I expect they should generally not care [15:26] the archive format is the same [15:27] cjwatson, so they'll allow you to fine-grain it as well, so that you can choose which distribution you want to mirror? [15:28] cjwatson, I currently keep jaunty, lucid, karmic, and maverick in all completely separate directories, with their own pool directories [15:28] I expect that not all of them will; debmirror does [15:28] cjwatson, ok, thanks again [15:28] it's a bit silly to keep separate pools for separate releases though, don't you think? [15:28] cjwatson, No, not really [15:29] the purpose of the pool structure is to share common versions of packages across releases [15:29] that's the entire reason it was created [15:29] that's why it's called pool :-) [15:29] cjwatson, It was actually a requirement put on my mirroring script from management [15:29] your management is daft then [15:29] TBPH :) [15:29] cjwatson, they wanted to be able to retire and archive old releases, so that they're not consuming drive space [15:29] you can do that just fine with pools [15:30] you drop the dists subtree and garbage-collect [15:30] cjwatson, that will delete it...not archive it [15:30] so you modify your garbage-collector ... [15:30] this honestly isn't that hard [15:31] a common pool saves a *lot* of space [15:31] yeah, but if you have separate pool directories, you don't have to write any additional code [15:31] so if your management cares about drive space, they should care about this [15:32] cjwatson, well, 32-bit and 64-bit lucid only uses up 63GB's [15:32] cjwatson, and generally I'll only have four distributions on the mirror at any one time [15:32] anyway, I suppose it's none of my business what way you want to manage your mirror [15:33] erm actually 6 distributions [15:33] it's just not how I recommend people do it [15:33] such as 8.04, 8.1, 9.04, 9.1, 10.04 [15:34] so that there's always at least two LTS releases [15:34] as a point of information, it's 8.10 (etc.), not 8.1 [15:34] the 10 is a month [15:34] oh, ok...thought it was just an arbitrary versioning [15:34] year.month [15:34] thanks for the info [15:35] ah...so releases every six months, and LTS's every 2 years [15:35] yes [15:35] didn't realize ubuntu had been around for ten years [15:35] we haven't [15:35] our first release was 4.10 [15:36] ah...even still six years [15:36] I didn't even hear of ubuntu until about 4 years ago [15:37] It was being offered up as an OSX alternative at the one user group at that time [15:43] ubiquity: evand * revan.dandrea@canonical.com-20110325154319-3jt3n3v8rslgpqiz ubiquity/tests/test_ubi_partman.py: Fix broken tests around the advanced partitioning debconf string. Teach question_has_variables to check in extended descriptions as well. [15:45] ev, bug #742558 [15:45] Launchpad bug 742558 in ubiquity ""Keep default keyboard layout ..." dialog is confusing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/742558 [15:45] seb128: much appreciated, thanks [15:48] ev, thank you for looking into it ;-) [15:55] ev: btw jibel ran into that issue in a japanese install as well so it's not only me and not only french [15:55] okay, good to know [15:55] thanks [15:55] np [17:49] ubiquity: cjwatson * r4608 trunk/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/i18n.py): [17:49] ubiquity: Start debconf in ubiquity.i18n.reset_locale if it isn't already running [17:49] ubiquity: (LP: #649895).