| nigelb | mhall119: one more bug down :) | 01:13 |
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| mhall119 | and it's not even Friday yet | 01:14 |
| mhall119 | well, i mean it is for you | 01:14 |
| mhall119 | but not me | 01:14 |
| mhall119 | good morning, by the way | 01:14 |
| nigelb | morning :) | 01:14 |
| nigelb | today seems a good day altogether | 01:14 |
| mhall119 | yay | 01:14 |
| nigelb | India kicked australia last night in the world cup :p | 01:14 |
| mhall119 | have you started your new job yet? | 01:15 |
| nigelb | Nope | 01:15 |
| nigelb | I'm hoping 3rd April. | 01:15 |
| nigelb | You got your nw job after me and you're already 1 week into it! | 01:15 |
| mhall119 | dude, even I'm tired of waiting for you to be done there now | 01:15 |
| nigelb | oh yeah? Think about me! | 01:16 |
| mhall119 | give me your boss's email, I'll have you off the job tomorrow ;) | 01:16 |
| nigelb | haha | 01:17 |
| YoBoY | good morning | 06:53 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:40 |
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| cjohnston | mornin | 10:08 |
| nigelb | cjohnston: its early | 10:10 |
| cjohnston | 610 | 10:10 |
| cjohnston | todays b shift | 10:10 |
| nigelb | DST. Ugh, I hate tz. | 10:10 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 10:37 |
| mhall119 | nigelb: didn't I warn you? | 11:32 |
| cjohnston | lol mhall119 | 12:26 |
| Ronnie | mhall119: ping | 12:39 |
| mhall119 | Ronnie: pong | 12:43 |
| Ronnie | im currently brainstorming on the virtual event | 12:43 |
| mhall119 | in the wiki I hope | 12:43 |
| Ronnie | currently on xmind | 12:43 |
| Ronnie | results will be on the wiki tough | 12:44 |
| mhall119 | ok | 12:44 |
| mhall119 | so what are your thoughts? | 12:44 |
| Ronnie | if we add another event, which share almost all the functions, it could become a complete mess | 12:44 |
| mhall119 | I agree | 12:45 |
| Ronnie | currently im investigating to have 1 type of event (on the backend) | 12:45 |
| mhall119 | I wanted to just add 2 new fields to TeamEvent | 12:45 |
| Ronnie | and show it to the user as 3 different events (normal event, meeting and virtual) | 12:45 |
| mhall119 | I don't want to separate physical and virtual events | 12:45 |
| mhall119 | I consider them both "events" | 12:45 |
| Ronnie | thats ok too | 12:46 |
| Ronnie | but im event thinking a meeting as an event (on the backend) | 12:46 |
| mhall119 | it's just a matter of collecting the info needed to make our TeamEvent capable of supporting online participation | 12:46 |
| mhall119 | no, meetings collect different information | 12:46 |
| mhall119 | in the community, meetings and events are different things | 12:47 |
| Ronnie | i think meetings can be the same on the backend | 12:47 |
| Ronnie | i think we even may be able to support 'classes' | 12:47 |
| Ronnie | and maybe other types of 'events' | 12:48 |
| Ronnie | meetings for example can also be physical and remote combination | 12:49 |
| Ronnie | the meeting has a chair, but other events (like classes) could have a chair/teacher too | 12:49 |
| Ronnie | each event could have some sort of log (meeting minutes, chatlog, audio/video log, some wiki page, flick photo's) | 12:50 |
| cjohnston | I like having a little selecter that you check which type of event, and then it displays venue, channel, or venue and channel based on your choice | 12:53 |
| Ronnie | cjohnston: indeed, but have only one 'backend' | 12:53 |
| cjohnston | ya.. thats on just the current create event page | 12:53 |
| cjohnston | Event Name | 12:55 |
| cjohnston | Begins | 12:55 |
| cjohnston | Ends | 12:55 |
| cjohnston | Type (in person, vitrual, mixed) | 12:55 |
| cjohnston | description | 12:55 |
| cjohnston | announcement | 12:55 |
| cjohnston | etc | 12:55 |
| cjohnston | and then if you tick in person it displays venue, virtual it displays a box for entering a channel, mixed it displays both | 12:56 |
| cjohnston | on the same page we already have | 12:56 |
| Ronnie | http://ubuntuone.com/p/jPK/ | 12:58 |
| Ronnie | this is my brainstorm part | 12:58 |
| Ronnie | i think we should not be limited to IRC chat only | 12:58 |
| YoBoY | Ronnie: missing "content" (description, meeting agenda, ...) in your reflexion :) | 13:04 |
| Ronnie | indeed, missing a lot of stuff :) | 13:05 |
| Ronnie | ill add is asap | 13:05 |
| YoBoY | not so much | 13:05 |
| Ronnie | http://ubuntuone.com/p/jPK/ | 13:26 |
| Ronnie | updated, YoBoY, cjohnston: do you have any noted on this map? | 13:26 |
| mhall119 | Ronnie: little steps, we can limit to IRC only for now, and expand more later | 13:26 |
| YoBoY | seems a bit complicate for me ^^" | 13:27 |
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| mhall119 | YoBoY: we already have most of that | 13:28 |
| mhall119 | he's just trying to group similar data items into logical categories | 13:29 |
| YoBoY | mhall119: yes I know, I was just refering to his schema | 13:30 |
| Ronnie | mhall119: yes, but we have to watch to not build too much on IRC, because it can be hard to add other items | 13:30 |
| Ronnie | others are uesually easy. for example: skype, you only need to provide username | 13:31 |
| mhall119 | Ronnie: but we'll cover at least 80% of the use cases with very little effort | 13:31 |
| mhall119 | we can add 2 fields to TeamEvent and get almost as much benefit as we would refactoring the entire data structure | 13:32 |
| mhall119 | with much fewer introduced bugs | 13:32 |
| YoBoY | how this is developed ? a main class and sub classes for each type of events ? or one class to rule them all ? | 13:33 |
| Ronnie | mhall119: we can indeed easily solve this by adding two fields. thats a quick fix, but not future stable | 13:35 |
| Ronnie | when we keep adding single fields for everything without thinking, the app will be unmaintainable in the future | 13:36 |
| YoBoY | +1 | 13:36 |
| mhall119 | I agree | 13:36 |
| mhall119 | but on the other hand, major refactoring doesn't come without a price either | 13:37 |
| mhall119 | the question is just where to draw the line | 13:37 |
| Ronnie | so we could add those fields to solve the bug, but in maintime we need to make progress on the 'buigger part' | 13:37 |
| mhall119 | +1 on that | 13:37 |
| Ronnie | should it be possible (in the new concept) to have multiple physical/remote locations? | 13:51 |
| Ronnie | for example a classroom, can have to IRC chatrooms, but if thats the only example. i think we should restrict to one physical and one remote | 13:53 |
| Ronnie | mhall119, YoBoY ^ | 13:53 |
| Ronnie | to = two | 13:53 |
| YoBoY | chat channels can be referenced in the description, not really necessary to have them as part of the location. Btw when we need a separated channel for chat, we also have more than one with the foreign language channels | 14:01 |
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| YoBoY | we can't put all the informations in separated fields, I can think of so many links we can add to only one event, it's overwhelming ^^" | 14:03 |
| mhall119 | Ronnie: I think trying to cover the classroom requirements is too much for this feature | 14:04 |
| YoBoY | keep it simple, and if you want to add more, we can always create a token/micro-content/something object containing (linked_event, type, content) where we can put tags, urls, hashtag, photo_stream, facebook pages, ... | 14:05 |
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| mhall119 | does anybody know if/how well CDMA phones work in Europe? | 18:03 |
| nigelb | mhall119: -uk might be a good place to ask | 18:04 |
| mhall119 | I'm not concerned about hungary, actually | 18:05 |
| cjohnston | not concerned about hungary? | 18:06 |
| cjohnston | we bought a sim card over there in belgium to not have to pay | 18:06 |
| cjohnston | the international rates | 18:06 |
| mhall119 | cjohnston: I don't think you can do that with cdma phones though | 18:07 |
| cjohnston | dunno | 18:07 |
| Pendulum | mhall119: generally pretty badly in Europe | 18:10 |
| mhall119 | I'm wondering if I should switch carriers | 18:11 |
| Pendulum | (Verizon phones as a rule don't work except for a couple phones that I think you can 'borrow' and pay their ridiculous fees to use) | 18:11 |
| mhall119 | it's unfortunate, cause they have the best coverage and service around here | 18:11 |
| Pendulum | you might be better off to either use phone cards and landlines or to see if you can get a cheap PAYG phone once you're over | 18:12 |
| mhall119 | yeah, I think paygo is what I'll end up doing | 18:12 |
| mhall119 | I still need an andoid phone though... | 18:12 |
| Pendulum | I'm on AT&T and while I certainly can (and do) use it in Europe, it's expensive to do so | 18:12 |
| Pendulum | (and I just turn data roaming off because it's soooo expensive) | 18:13 |
| mhall119 | well there will be wifi at the hotel at least | 18:13 |
| Pendulum | yeah | 18:13 |
| mhall119 | so I can get a cheap paygo phone for calls if I want to | 18:13 |
| Pendulum | tbh, in Brussels I barely used my phone | 18:13 |
| Pendulum | I used it early on to hook up with people | 18:13 |
| Pendulum | but used skype to call hom | 18:13 |
| mhall119 | so, HTC Incredible or Samsung Galaxy S | 18:14 |
| Pendulum | *home | 18:14 |
| mhall119 | or Droid 2 | 18:14 |
| Pendulum | I know people who've loved their Droids (probably of those 3 it's the one I've heard the most raving about) | 18:14 |
| Pendulum | (that said, I don't know if I know anyone with an Incredible) | 18:15 |
| mhall119 | my brother has an incredible and has been happy with it | 18:17 |
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| newuser | I have a question for the professionals of linux based programming, my question is can linux programming be compatible with pc,mac operating systems and the internet? Thank you for the response. | 22:08 |
| mhall119 | newuser: I don't quite understand | 22:13 |
| mhall119 | newuser: you mean can you write a program for linux, and run it on Windows or OSX? | 22:15 |
| newuser | It's ok. I'll figure out. Thanks for the help | 22:17 |
| mhall119 | heh | 22:26 |
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