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| guillemhs | ei, somebody has installed ayatana scrollbar in natty? | 08:30 |
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| primes2h1 | jibel: ping | 08:32 |
| UndiFineD | this topic does not seem right | 08:51 |
| * UndiFineD files a bug with ara | 08:52 | |
| ara | UndiFineD, do you know how I ask to be op? | 08:55 |
| * ara always forgets | 08:55 | |
| UndiFineD | /cs op #ubuntu-testing ara ? | 08:56 |
| UndiFineD | :) | 08:56 |
| ara | UndiFineD, thanks! | 08:56 |
| ara | jibel, jibel_ what topic do you want? | 08:57 |
| UndiFineD | well, at least something that represents 2011 | 08:57 |
| jibel | primes2h1, guillemhs ara UndiFineD , good morning | 08:57 |
| UndiFineD | good morning | 08:58 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: Good morning :-) | 08:58 |
| jibel | UndiFineD, 10.04.2 is 2011 but its behind us :-) | 08:58 |
| jibel | ara, we will change the topic for Natty Beta 1 on monday, currently we are testing Overlay scrollbars | 08:59 |
| * UndiFineD presses "start upgrade" | 08:59 | |
| guillemhs | ei | 08:59 |
| ara | jibel, OK | 08:59 |
| guillemhs | ara one question | 08:59 |
| guillemhs | VM easy install test case | 08:59 |
| ara | guillemhs, yes? | 09:00 |
| guillemhs | one second I am looking a certain testcase | 09:01 |
| guillemhs | ok, here i have it | 09:01 |
| guillemhs | http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/VMWareEasyInstall | 09:01 |
| guillemhs | where can i find the VMWare app? | 09:02 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: as a workaround for the twice release name display, could you change the id of the natty fake, or, even better, delete it and make a new one? | 09:02 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: This way we don't need to wait the patch to be applied | 09:03 |
| jibel | primes2h1, sure, that was my intention. I'm busy on something else atm, but I'll do this in the beginning of the afternoon. | 09:05 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: That's nice! Then I can announce it. Thanks. :-) | 09:05 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: one last thing. could you please also add this notice in pages like this http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/5164? | 10:46 |
| primes2h1 | We are currently testing Lucid Lynx 10.04.2 (or Maverick etc). See testing procedures for details. (testing procedures linked to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Procedures) | 10:46 |
| ricardob24 | hi | 13:04 |
| ricardob24 | good morning | 13:05 |
| ricardob24 | ??????????// | 13:07 |
| jibel_ | primes2h1, I renamed Natty Fake to FakeNatty, that fixes the duplicate lines issue. Do you thing it's okay or that will have some undesirable side effects ? | 13:47 |
| jibel_ | primes2h1, also, the notice is side wide. I can't set a different one for each release being tested. | 13:48 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: It looks nice now! | 13:52 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: oh, i see. About the notice, I think that "See testing procedures for details." (with testing procedures linked to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Procedures) should be sufficient. | 13:53 |
| jibel_ | primes2h1, done | 13:54 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: ehm, I think that bold font (like ISO tracker one) would be better. | 13:56 |
| primes2h1 | jibel:then, there is a line just below the notice in the ISO tracker http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ | 13:57 |
| primes2h1 | Why it doesn't show up in the laptop tracker? :-/ | 13:57 |
| primes2h1 | really strange | 13:57 |
| jibel_ | primes2h1, I added it, it's a <hr/> | 13:58 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: ah, ok, now it's great" | 13:58 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: thank you very much! | 13:58 |
| jibel_ | primes2h1, my web designer skills are not really great ;-) | 13:58 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: np, mine are worse ;-) | 14:00 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: in fact I've just found out a side effect | 14:23 |
| primes2h1 | http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/laptop/FakeNatty/27627 | 14:23 |
| primes2h1 | make and model are inverted | 14:23 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: really odd :-/ | 14:25 |
| jibel_ | I think that's because there's is no order clause when we query the settings | 14:26 |
| jibel_ | primes2h1, ^ | 14:26 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: I think it too, but it's strange that it doesn't respect the order just after you changed the milestone name | 14:27 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: I mean, without order clause, it should order it by id. | 14:28 |
| jibel_ | primes2h1, not necessarily, without an order clause it returns the data in the order it's stored on disk | 14:29 |
| jibel_ | so an update can change it | 14:29 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: you are right, | 14:29 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: so a wordaround could be to change the name again, meanwhile I prepare a patch for it. | 14:30 |
| jibel_ | primes2h1, I'll deal with that. What would be better is to use stored procedures rather than queries embedded in php. This way I can update it quickly. | 14:32 |
| jibel_ | primes2h1, wow that really sucks, when you update a row, it push the data at the end of the table. | 14:37 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: it's because the query filter all value about laptop in the profile and the it pick up the first 2 to create the laptop name | 14:38 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: and then others to display lspci output etc. | 14:39 |
| jibel_ | primes2h1, yup. What I mean is that the database is constantly moving the rows when there's an update | 14:39 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: you should try changing another time and see | 14:40 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: yes | 14:40 |
| jibel_ | primes2h1, I've updated all the rows in order, cna you check if it's ok | 14:41 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: it's ok now, fiuu... | 14:41 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: this bug really sucks :-) | 14:42 |
| jibel_ | primes2h1, the bad news is that I'l have to do this each time there is an update in this table :( | 14:42 |
| jibel_ | primes2h1, the good news is that this table rarely change | 14:42 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: I make the patch ASAP | 14:44 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: we are safe until Beta 1 I guess | 14:44 |
| jibel_ | primes2h1, you can order by title rather than id. The titles are numbered and we can change them if needed unlike the ids | 14:45 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: yes, that's the way I would like to do it. :-) | 14:45 |
| primes2h1 | jibel: btw, murphy's law struck again, didn't it? ;-) | 14:53 |
| jibel_ | primes2h1, indeed :-) | 14:58 |
| primes2h1 | jibel:Done. I've committed the patch to the branch with pending merge. | 15:18 |
| primes2h1 | I mean. Done. :-) | 15:19 |
| patrickmw | mvo: Hello. Are there supposed to be any apps listed under For Purchase in Natty with the default repositories? | 18:49 |
| patrickmw | mvo: referring to USC, of course :) | 18:49 |
| mvo | hello patrickmw | 18:53 |
| mvo | patrickmw: I don't think so currently, but I think it would be good to push a test package | 18:53 |
| patrickmw | mvo: ok I am developing automated tests for USC and I would like to test the purchasing feature | 18:54 |
| mvo | patrickmw: if you check the code in s-c there is something there, but its not using mago, instead its driving the inernal classes. having a mago test for this would rock | 19:01 |
| mvo | patrickmw: is your stuff part of the normal mago repo? I'm keen to look at it and play with it | 19:02 |
| patrickmw | mvo: yes, there is a bare-bones starter test for isc | 19:02 |
| patrickmw | usc | 19:02 |
| patrickmw | mvo, its not refactored and awesome yet, but there is something :) | 19:03 |
| mvo | \o/ | 19:03 |
| mvo | the more auto tests the better, we have a bunch in the source as well, but not mago based | 19:03 |
| jibel_ | patrickmw, ping | 21:42 |
| patrickmw | jibel_: yo | 21:42 |
| jibel_ | hello patrickmw | 21:42 |
| jibel_ | patrickmw, for the url launcher test in usc, i think that usc just needs to be called with the apturl like: software-center apt:python-wxtools | 21:44 |
| patrickmw | jibel_: I was experimenting with that too. | 21:44 |
| jibel_ | patrickmw, if you test this way, it would be good to extend the test to the format supported by usc. I mean with an apturl , a package name and a deb file. | 21:45 |
| patrickmw | jibel_: i was trying to "simulate" a browser by using wget. using apturl is very direct | 21:45 |
| patrickmw | it wasn't the best, but I am happy to go with your suggestion | 21:46 |
| jibel_ | patrickmw, testing with wget seems far from the real world. The dev have to fix bug 709125, then we'll test with a real browser. | 21:47 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 709125 in firefox (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work (affects: 7) (dups: 2) (heat: 60)" [High,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709125 | 21:47 |
| patrickmw | jibel_: ok | 21:48 |
| nagappan | patrickmw, jibel, most of our lab test machine has ATI ES 1000 VGA, any clues why I don't get Ubuntu Desktop edition ? It goes to Classic edition by default ! even though I select Desktop Edition during login | 21:54 |
| patrickmw | nagappan, Ubuntu falls back to Classic if it doesn't support 3D acceleration. Right now, there are known issues with ATI | 21:57 |
| nagappan | patrickmw, ah ! okay | 21:57 |
| patrickmw | nagappan, there is a command to check, for your future reference, one sec | 21:58 |
| jibel_ | nagappan, I'm interested by the result. Are you using the opensource driver xserver-xorg-video-radeon ? | 22:03 |
| nagappan | patrickmw, sure | 22:06 |
| nagappan | jibel, let me check | 22:07 |
| nagappan | jibel, just the default installed with 11.04 | 22:07 |
| nagappan | jibel, I haven't installed anything specific | 22:07 |
| patrickmw | jibel_, do you know how to run the unity-support-test off hand? | 22:07 |
| jibel_ | nagappan, this card has no support for 3D afaik and will use the software rasterizer so Unity won't start. | 22:07 |
| nagappan | jibel, for NVidia we usually install the nvidia-current driver through synaptic | 22:07 |
| nagappan | jibel, oops | 22:07 |
| nagappan | jibel, is there a list of supported card ? | 22:08 |
| patrickmw | nagappan: /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p (I forgot the -p) | 22:08 |
| nagappan | patrickmw, sure, let me try now | 22:08 |
| jibel_ | nagappan, right but the driver is not available for natty apparently | 22:08 |
| nagappan | patrickmw, http://pastebin.com/4cHFFsu1 | 22:11 |
| jibel_ | nagappan, according to http://www.x.org/wiki/radeon : "Driver for ATI/AMD Radeon based video chips, everything from Radeon 7000 to Radeon HD 5890 series" | 22:13 |
| jibel_ | nagappan, and what's the output of : glxinfo | grep -i render | 22:15 |
| nagappan | jibel, okay | 22:17 |
| nagappan | jibel, let me check | 22:17 |
| nagappan | jibel, irect rendering: Yes | 22:20 |
| nagappan | OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer | 22:20 |
| nagappan | GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_NV_depth_clamp, GL_NV_fragment_program, | 22:20 |
| nagappan | jibel, oops d is missing, its "direct rendering: Yes" :-) | 22:21 |
| jibel_ | nagappan, interesting. Compiz won't start when software rendering is used. I don't know this card, but you can probably add an option in xorg.conf to use hardware acceleration. If we trust unity_support_test, Unity should run then. This HW has no 3D engine though. | 22:34 |
| nagappan | jibel, okay | 22:35 |
| jibel_ | nagappan, man radeon for the list of option supported by the driver | 22:35 |
| nagappan | jibel, sure, there is no xorg.conf, probably I need to create it manually !?! | 22:35 |
| meganerdca | what card is this? Sorry I am late to the party. | 22:37 |
| nagappan | meganerdca, its Radeon ES1000 | 22:37 |
| meganerdca | ahh, I have been having problems with an hd5450 | 22:38 |
| nagappan | meganerdca, okay | 22:38 |
| meganerdca | It is a sandy bridge system so it is not a happy machine in general | 22:38 |
| jibel_ | nagappan, fully untested but something like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/585640/should be enough to start with. | 22:38 |
| nagappan | jibel, sure, let me check it | 22:39 |
| jibel_ | nagappan, then there are option like Option "RenderAccel" "boolean" | 22:39 |
| nagappan | jibel, okay | 22:39 |
| jibel_ | and Option "EXAPixmaps" "boolean" | 22:39 |
| jibel_ | nagappan, the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log may help you. | 22:40 |
| nagappan | jibel, ya checking that | 22:40 |
| jibel_ | the content of ~/.xsession-errors too. | 22:40 |
| nagappan | jibel, okay | 22:40 |
| jibel_ | if it's really a pain, file a report against unity, attaching the files mentioned above and subscribe me, I'll redirect to the opengl gurus ;-) | 22:41 |
| jibel_ | meganerdca, which release and which driver do you use ? | 22:42 |
| meganerdca | tried 10.10 and 11.04 Alpha 3, the sandy bridge machine does not install from cd, I can only get an install from a USB flashdrive (the USB dvd and SATA DVD failed even though they installed fine on an older AMD64) | 22:47 |
| meganerdca | I do not get to try drivers as it kernel panics during boot | 22:47 |
| jibel_ | meganerdca, the 'not boot from livecd' issue might be this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/linux/+bug/712897 | 22:51 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 712897 in linux (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "[SandyBridge] Fails to boot livecd when both hd and cd are on SATA III ports (affects: 1) (heat: 74)" [Undecided,Triaged] | 22:51 |
| meganerdca | already checked that, neither the HD nor the DVD drive were on the 6GBit ports. It also fails on the alternate installer (the one I usually prefer) | 22:59 |
| meganerdca | With an nVidia or the built in GPU (this is the vanilla GPU, not the "K" one) it does not bring up a display, nor can I switch to a console. The IP appears live though. | 23:01 |
| meganerdca | I was just planning on waiting for the beta to drop, Intel dropped the ball a little with Sandy bridge. | 23:01 |
| nagappan | jibel, just noticed the issue is same with gnome3 as well ! need to update my manager to buy new card, but I doubt as they are lab machines | 23:05 |
| jibel_ | nagappan, sure, gnome3 also relies on opengl. this hw is done for server, no fun with it. | 23:18 |
| nagappan | jibel, :-) | 23:18 |
| jibel_ | nagappan, anyhow you should be able to run unity-2d, it's not installed by default | 23:20 |
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