=== Claudinux_ is now known as Claudinux [08:30] ei, somebody has installed ayatana scrollbar in natty? [08:32] jibel: ping [08:51] this topic does not seem right [08:52] * UndiFineD files a bug with ara [08:55] UndiFineD, do you know how I ask to be op? [08:55] * ara always forgets [08:56] /cs op #ubuntu-testing ara ? [08:56] :) [08:56] UndiFineD, thanks! [08:57] jibel, jibel_ what topic do you want? [08:57] well, at least something that represents 2011 [08:57] primes2h1, guillemhs ara UndiFineD , good morning [08:58] good morning [08:58] jibel: Good morning :-) [08:58] UndiFineD, 10.04.2 is 2011 but its behind us :-) [08:59] ara, we will change the topic for Natty Beta 1 on monday, currently we are testing Overlay scrollbars [08:59] * UndiFineD presses "start upgrade" [08:59] ei [08:59] jibel, OK [08:59] ara one question [08:59] VM easy install test case [09:00] guillemhs, yes? [09:01] one second I am looking a certain testcase [09:01] ok, here i have it [09:01] http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/VMWareEasyInstall [09:02] where can i find the VMWare app? [09:02] jibel: as a workaround for the twice release name display, could you change the id of the natty fake, or, even better, delete it and make a new one? [09:03] jibel: This way we don't need to wait the patch to be applied [09:05] primes2h1, sure, that was my intention. I'm busy on something else atm, but I'll do this in the beginning of the afternoon. [09:05] jibel: That's nice! Then I can announce it. Thanks. :-) [10:46] jibel: one last thing. could you please also add this notice in pages like this http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/5164? [10:46] We are currently testing Lucid Lynx 10.04.2 (or Maverick etc). See testing procedures for details. (testing procedures linked to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Procedures) [13:04] hi [13:05] good morning [13:07] ??????????// [13:47] primes2h1, I renamed Natty Fake to FakeNatty, that fixes the duplicate lines issue. Do you thing it's okay or that will have some undesirable side effects ? [13:48] primes2h1, also, the notice is side wide. I can't set a different one for each release being tested. [13:52] jibel: It looks nice now! [13:53] jibel: oh, i see. About the notice, I think that "See testing procedures for details." (with testing procedures linked to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Procedures) should be sufficient. [13:54] primes2h1, done [13:56] jibel: ehm, I think that bold font (like ISO tracker one) would be better. [13:57] jibel:then, there is a line just below the notice in the ISO tracker http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ [13:57] Why it doesn't show up in the laptop tracker? :-/ [13:57] really strange [13:58] primes2h1, I added it, it's a

[13:58] jibel: ah, ok, now it's great" [13:58] jibel: thank you very much! [13:58] primes2h1, my web designer skills are not really great ;-) [14:00] jibel: np, mine are worse ;-) [14:23] jibel: in fact I've just found out a side effect [14:23] http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/laptop/FakeNatty/27627 [14:23] make and model are inverted [14:25] jibel: really odd :-/ [14:26] I think that's because there's is no order clause when we query the settings [14:26] primes2h1, ^ [14:27] jibel: I think it too, but it's strange that it doesn't respect the order just after you changed the milestone name [14:28] jibel: I mean, without order clause, it should order it by id. [14:29] primes2h1, not necessarily, without an order clause it returns the data in the order it's stored on disk [14:29] so an update can change it [14:29] jibel: you are right, [14:30] jibel: so a wordaround could be to change the name again, meanwhile I prepare a patch for it. [14:32] primes2h1, I'll deal with that. What would be better is to use stored procedures rather than queries embedded in php. This way I can update it quickly. [14:37] primes2h1, wow that really sucks, when you update a row, it push the data at the end of the table. [14:38] jibel: it's because the query filter all value about laptop in the profile and the it pick up the first 2 to create the laptop name [14:39] jibel: and then others to display lspci output etc. [14:39] primes2h1, yup. What I mean is that the database is constantly moving the rows when there's an update [14:40] jibel: you should try changing another time and see [14:40] jibel: yes [14:41] primes2h1, I've updated all the rows in order, cna you check if it's ok [14:41] jibel: it's ok now, fiuu... [14:42] jibel: this bug really sucks :-) [14:42] primes2h1, the bad news is that I'l have to do this each time there is an update in this table :( [14:42] primes2h1, the good news is that this table rarely change [14:44] jibel: I make the patch ASAP [14:44] jibel: we are safe until Beta 1 I guess [14:45] primes2h1, you can order by title rather than id. The titles are numbered and we can change them if needed unlike the ids [14:45] jibel: yes, that's the way I would like to do it. :-) [14:53] jibel: btw, murphy's law struck again, didn't it? ;-) [14:58] primes2h1, indeed :-) [15:18] jibel:Done. I've committed the patch to the branch with pending merge. [15:19] I mean. Done. :-) [18:49] mvo: Hello. Are there supposed to be any apps listed under For Purchase in Natty with the default repositories? [18:49] mvo: referring to USC, of course :) [18:53] hello patrickmw [18:53] patrickmw: I don't think so currently, but I think it would be good to push a test package [18:54] mvo: ok I am developing automated tests for USC and I would like to test the purchasing feature [19:01] patrickmw: if you check the code in s-c there is something there, but its not using mago, instead its driving the inernal classes. having a mago test for this would rock [19:02] patrickmw: is your stuff part of the normal mago repo? I'm keen to look at it and play with it [19:02] mvo: yes, there is a bare-bones starter test for isc [19:02] usc [19:03] mvo, its not refactored and awesome yet, but there is something :) [19:03] \o/ [19:03] the more auto tests the better, we have a bunch in the source as well, but not mago based [21:42] patrickmw, ping [21:42] jibel_: yo [21:42] hello patrickmw [21:44] patrickmw, for the url launcher test in usc, i think that usc just needs to be called with the apturl like: software-center apt:python-wxtools [21:44] jibel_: I was experimenting with that too. [21:45] patrickmw, if you test this way, it would be good to extend the test to the format supported by usc. I mean with an apturl , a package name and a deb file. [21:45] jibel_: i was trying to "simulate" a browser by using wget. using apturl is very direct [21:46] it wasn't the best, but I am happy to go with your suggestion [21:47] patrickmw, testing with wget seems far from the real world. The dev have to fix bug 709125, then we'll test with a real browser. [21:47] Launchpad bug 709125 in firefox (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work (affects: 7) (dups: 2) (heat: 60)" [High,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709125 [21:48] jibel_: ok [21:54] patrickmw, jibel, most of our lab test machine has ATI ES 1000 VGA, any clues why I don't get Ubuntu Desktop edition ? It goes to Classic edition by default ! even though I select Desktop Edition during login [21:57] nagappan, Ubuntu falls back to Classic if it doesn't support 3D acceleration. Right now, there are known issues with ATI [21:57] patrickmw, ah ! okay [21:58] nagappan, there is a command to check, for your future reference, one sec [22:03] nagappan, I'm interested by the result. Are you using the opensource driver xserver-xorg-video-radeon ? [22:06] patrickmw, sure [22:07] jibel, let me check [22:07] jibel, just the default installed with 11.04 [22:07] jibel, I haven't installed anything specific [22:07] jibel_, do you know how to run the unity-support-test off hand? [22:07] nagappan, this card has no support for 3D afaik and will use the software rasterizer so Unity won't start. [22:07] jibel, for NVidia we usually install the nvidia-current driver through synaptic [22:07] jibel, oops [22:08] jibel, is there a list of supported card ? [22:08] nagappan: /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p (I forgot the -p) [22:08] patrickmw, sure, let me try now [22:08] nagappan, right but the driver is not available for natty apparently [22:11] patrickmw, http://pastebin.com/4cHFFsu1 [22:13] nagappan, according to http://www.x.org/wiki/radeon : "Driver for ATI/AMD Radeon based video chips, everything from Radeon 7000 to Radeon HD 5890 series" [22:15] nagappan, and what's the output of : glxinfo | grep -i render [22:17] jibel, okay [22:17] jibel, let me check [22:20] jibel, irect rendering: Yes [22:20] OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer [22:20] GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_NV_depth_clamp, GL_NV_fragment_program, [22:21] jibel, oops d is missing, its "direct rendering: Yes" :-) [22:34] nagappan, interesting. Compiz won't start when software rendering is used. I don't know this card, but you can probably add an option in xorg.conf to use hardware acceleration. If we trust unity_support_test, Unity should run then. This HW has no 3D engine though. [22:35] jibel, okay [22:35] nagappan, man radeon for the list of option supported by the driver [22:35] jibel, sure, there is no xorg.conf, probably I need to create it manually !?! [22:37] what card is this? Sorry I am late to the party. [22:37] meganerdca, its Radeon ES1000 [22:38] ahh, I have been having problems with an hd5450 [22:38] meganerdca, okay [22:38] It is a sandy bridge system so it is not a happy machine in general [22:38] nagappan, fully untested but something like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/585640/should be enough to start with. [22:39] jibel, sure, let me check it [22:39] nagappan, then there are option like Option "RenderAccel" "boolean" [22:39] jibel, okay [22:39] and Option "EXAPixmaps" "boolean" [22:40] nagappan, the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log may help you. [22:40] jibel, ya checking that [22:40] the content of ~/.xsession-errors too. [22:40] jibel, okay [22:41] if it's really a pain, file a report against unity, attaching the files mentioned above and subscribe me, I'll redirect to the opengl gurus ;-) [22:42] meganerdca, which release and which driver do you use ? [22:47] tried 10.10 and 11.04 Alpha 3, the sandy bridge machine does not install from cd, I can only get an install from a USB flashdrive (the USB dvd and SATA DVD failed even though they installed fine on an older AMD64) [22:47] I do not get to try drivers as it kernel panics during boot [22:51] meganerdca, the 'not boot from livecd' issue might be this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/linux/+bug/712897 [22:51] Launchpad bug 712897 in linux (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "[SandyBridge] Fails to boot livecd when both hd and cd are on SATA III ports (affects: 1) (heat: 74)" [Undecided,Triaged] [22:59] already checked that, neither the HD nor the DVD drive were on the 6GBit ports. It also fails on the alternate installer (the one I usually prefer) [23:01] With an nVidia or the built in GPU (this is the vanilla GPU, not the "K" one) it does not bring up a display, nor can I switch to a console. The IP appears live though. [23:01] I was just planning on waiting for the beta to drop, Intel dropped the ball a little with Sandy bridge. [23:05] jibel, just noticed the issue is same with gnome3 as well ! need to update my manager to buy new card, but I doubt as they are lab machines [23:18] nagappan, sure, gnome3 also relies on opengl. this hw is done for server, no fun with it. [23:18] jibel, :-) [23:20] nagappan, anyhow you should be able to run unity-2d, it's not installed by default === Claudinux_ is now known as Claudinux === yofel_ is now known as yofel