| rick_h_ | hmm, where's tjagoda when you need him to help keep the flames stoked a bit | 00:23 |
|---|---|---|
| rick_h_ | DBO: ping | 00:28 |
| snap-l | DBO: ping | 00:32 |
| DBO | woops | 00:39 |
| DBO | hey | 00:39 |
| DBO | jassmith87 | 00:39 |
| rick_h_ | k, added | 00:40 |
| rick_h_ | will call up in a sec | 00:40 |
| jcastro | so it went well? | 01:34 |
| jcastro | rick_h_: did DBO profess his love for tiling window managers? | 01:34 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: no, but his love os extra pixels | 01:36 |
| rick_h_ | so I agreed with him | 01:36 |
| DBO | extra pixels FTW | 01:36 |
| jcastro | dude you gotta give it props | 01:37 |
| jcastro | gnome-do-ish things by default | 01:37 |
| jcastro | keyboard shortcut's all planned out to a tee | 01:37 |
| jcastro | maximum terminal space when you maximize | 01:37 |
| DBO | i love the gnome-do-ish feature | 01:38 |
| rick_h_ | http://uploads.mitechie.com/awesome.png && http://uploads.mitechie.com/awesome2.png && http://uploads.mitechie.com/awesome3.png | 01:38 |
| rick_h_ | that's what I want :P | 01:38 |
| DBO | 4 finger tap, type, enter | 01:38 |
| rick_h_ | but you need two hands to type on a keyboard | 01:38 |
| rick_h_ | how do you four finger tap from home row? :P | 01:38 |
| rick_h_ | very cool conversation though, and learned some stuff I definitely didn't know | 01:40 |
| rick_h_ | so can't wait to get this out start of next week for sure | 01:40 |
| DBO | rick_h_, unity supports some limited tiling | 01:40 |
| rick_h_ | ty DBO and quick phone dialer jcastro | 01:40 |
| DBO | similar to Aero Snap (for a blasphemous windows comparison) | 01:40 |
| rick_h_ | DBO: yea, but I'm not into that. I do all my resizing/etc via keyboard. The first link is my fav dev environment when docked | 01:41 |
| rick_h_ | where I have the double terms below the full width vim instance | 01:41 |
| rick_h_ | but I'll play with it when it comes out for sure. | 01:41 |
| DBO | yeah :) | 01:41 |
| DBO | its not for everyone | 01:41 |
| DBO | yet... | 01:41 |
| DBO | I'll get you sooner or later | 01:41 |
| rick_h_ | well, I'm extreme edge case. It's not me I'm worried about. It's the snap-l, wolgers (well he's an old kde junkie though), etc | 01:42 |
| DBO | jcastro, I land the love handles, and what does OMG ubuntu blog: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/new-look-ubuntu-mug-goes-on-sale/ | 01:42 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 01:42 |
| rick_h_ | woooo! new coffee! | 01:43 |
| rick_h_ | but I think the thing to remember is that this is really stage 1 of a few stages (don't want to count maverick/unity/netbook) | 01:43 |
| rick_h_ | though that doesn't help when you install and it's what you see/get. "6mo it'll have more xx/yy for you", but the cost of 6mo release cycles | 01:44 |
| jcastro | YEAH! | 01:44 |
| greg-g | uhhhh, I got an in-person interview | 01:48 |
| jjesse | yay? | 01:48 |
| greg-g | yay indeed | 01:48 |
| rick_h_ | yay!!!! | 01:48 |
| _stink_ | greg-g: YAY | 01:48 |
| greg-g | just gotta figure out how to get there and back during a pretty busy time for me | 01:48 |
| rick_h_ | dude, beers | 01:48 |
| DBO | greg-g, for a job? | 01:48 |
| _stink_ | greg-g: don't you ride a bike everywhere? | 01:48 |
| greg-g | yeah, with Wikimedia Foundation | 01:48 |
| greg-g | _stink_: it'll take a little longer than I can afford to get to SF and back :P | 01:49 |
| DBO | greg-g, KUDOS! | 01:49 |
| jjesse | wahoo | 01:49 |
| greg-g | thanks DBO | 01:49 |
| greg-g | thanks all! :) | 01:49 |
| greg-g | so uh, guys, I might have to bail on the UGJ :/ | 01:50 |
| greg-g | not sure yet, still trying to figure out when I'm going, but it is a possibility, unfortunately | 01:50 |
| DBO | UGJ? | 01:50 |
| greg-g | ubuntu global jam | 01:51 |
| greg-g | get on th emailing list! :) | 01:51 |
| DBO | the who to the what now? | 01:51 |
| greg-g | heh | 01:51 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: I'll get you a hall pass | 01:52 |
| rick_h_ | now greg-g , this position is telecommute right ;) | 01:52 |
| rick_h_ | I wouldn't want to have to root against you or anything secretly | 01:52 |
| greg-g | uhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 01:52 |
| * greg-g whistles | 01:52 | |
| rick_h_ | brousch: get ready then, greg-g has some grooming to do | 01:53 |
| greg-g | :) | 01:53 |
| rick_h_ | seriously though, good stuff, can't cross my fingers enough for you | 01:53 |
| greg-g | thanks so much, man | 01:54 |
| DBO | greg-g, was your previous job telecommuniting | 01:54 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: we still good for the interview date you think? | 01:54 |
| rick_h_ | or should we look at moving that? | 01:54 |
| greg-g | DBO: no, just in Ann Arbor, for the University | 01:54 |
| rick_h_ | it's the week after GJ | 01:54 |
| DBO | ah good, then I dont have to remind you to wear pants | 01:54 |
| greg-g | hah | 01:55 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: nah, I need to be back on Friday for an event anyways, and I can't really do a wed/thurs thing out there, so the interview time is fine | 01:56 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: ok cool, just wanted to dbl check | 01:56 |
| rick_h_ | alright, I'm out all, have fun | 01:56 |
| greg-g | yeah, thanks though | 01:56 |
| greg-g | later! | 01:56 |
| brousch | greg-g: congrats! it sounds like they were into you | 02:00 |
| greg-g | brousch: I hope so :) | 02:02 |
| brousch | so you have to fly out to san francisco during the GBJ? | 02:03 |
| brousch | ok, well i fell asleep on the couch at 8:30, so i'm gonna finish that sleeping thing now | 02:06 |
| DBO | rick_h_, how would you like charline to get in contact with you? | 02:06 |
| DBO | snap-l, ^^ | 02:08 |
| snap-l | OK, off to watch DBO | 02:21 |
| snap-l | Dr Who, rather. :) | 02:21 |
| DBO | cheers | 02:21 |
| snap-l | DBO: Contact us at feedback@lococast.net | 02:21 |
| DBO | too late | 02:21 |
| snap-l | or rick_h_ will mention a more preferred method | 02:21 |
| DBO | already gave her ricks email | 02:21 |
| DBO | :) | 02:22 |
| rick_h_ | yay for blocked internet access | 11:43 |
| brousch | been surfing too much tiling porn? | 11:49 |
| rick_h_ | at a dealership and their wifi blocks gmail/amazon | 11:49 |
| brousch | if you'd implemented the wifi proxy you could be surfing through your home internet right now | 11:51 |
| rick_h_ | yea, actually I'd just tether the phone | 11:52 |
| rick_h_ | but found gmail and amazon blocks funny | 11:53 |
| rick_h_ | twitter open | 11:53 |
| rick_h_ | though they are blocking twitter's cdn | 11:54 |
| rick_h_ | so no avatars, css when I pull up the site | 11:54 |
| brousch | the move to samba3 is going well | 12:18 |
| brousch | i may get to retire this dapper server soon | 12:18 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Seriously? Blocking a CDN? | 12:18 |
| snap-l | Maybe they just block 443 access. ;) | 12:19 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: yea, Reason for restriction: Forbidden Category "Chat/Instant Messaging (IM)" | 12:19 |
| rick_h_ | when I hit http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/572829723/original_normal.jpg | 12:19 |
| rick_h_ | however twitter.com loads | 12:20 |
| snap-l | I would think that IM would be the last thing that a dealership would block | 12:20 |
| snap-l | Unless they have you on the same wifi as the employees | 12:20 |
| snap-l | IN which case, that's just dumb on several counts. :) | 12:20 |
| rick_h_ | I'd see blocking twitter, but hitting the cdn vs the main url seems strange to me | 12:20 |
| brousch | nmap it all | 12:21 |
| rick_h_ | heh | 12:21 |
| brousch | h4x0r them | 12:21 |
| rick_h_ | it's more just a curoisity | 12:21 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 12:21 |
| rick_h_ | must be a sonicwall bug out there, take over the router | 12:21 |
| rick_h_ | I'd bet it's not been updated | 12:21 |
| snap-l | brb, reboooooot. | 12:22 |
| brousch | ug, i may be working with visual studio next month. have to pull some crap out of autodesk inventor with its .net api | 12:23 |
| rick_h_ | ouch | 12:23 |
| * rick_h_ sends beverage assistance | 12:24 | |
| brousch | very ouch since my windows machine is 5 years old and has 1.5GB of ram | 12:24 |
| brousch | that's not much room to run inventor and VS | 12:24 |
| brousch | i saw a couple of examples using ironpython, so i might have slightly less pain | 12:25 |
| rick_h_ | crap, save me, sitting in a waiting room, with fox news on, and a bunch of guys sitting around discussing how hot/not the picture of the lady in this story is | 12:27 |
| rick_h_ | ooh, now we're on to egyption leaders dumping their swiss accounts and starting a 7-11 with the 'billions' they probably have | 12:27 |
| brousch | engage them in intelligent discussion. it is your duty. | 12:28 |
| * rick_h_ sits mute typing on work code | 12:29 | |
| rick_h_ | man, someone cut my ears off, this is painful | 12:36 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Whatever you do, don't look into their eyes | 12:54 |
| snap-l | or they'll suddenly become very real, and get inside your brain | 12:54 |
| snap-l | before you know it, you'll be taking Rush Limbaugh seriously | 12:54 |
| brousch | you will be safe if you mumble, "goddam obama" | 12:54 |
| snap-l | also, is identi.ca blocked? | 12:54 |
| snap-l | "where's the God damn birth-certificate"? | 12:55 |
| snap-l | "Fuck healthcare, just as long as my medicare check still cashes" | 12:55 |
| tjagoda | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/03/android-apps-on-playbook-tablet-could-be-a-mixed-bag-for-platform.ars | 13:04 |
| snap-l | http://openmetalcast.com/2011/03/25/open-metalcast-instrumetalcast-2-groovy-djent/ | 13:06 |
| rick_h_ | http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/24/rim-reports-q4-earnings-revenue-misses-estimates-despite-record-shipments | 13:11 |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| snap-l | http://bestiary.ca/ <- Had I had this as a kid, it would have been awesome | 13:15 |
| snap-l | Love mythology. | 13:15 |
| snap-l | http://bestiary.ca/beasts/beast80.htm | 13:16 |
| tjagoda | ..... | 13:18 |
| tjagoda | why. | 13:18 |
| snap-l | Consider that when I was 7-8, D&D was starting to hit the mainstream | 13:20 |
| snap-l | I had never been exposed to so many mythical, and (to an 8 year old) magnificent creatures as I had been in the Monster Manual of AD&D 1st edition | 13:21 |
| snap-l | Later finding out that these creatures were based on myth and folklore only added to my curiosity | 13:21 |
| snap-l | http://www.reddit.com/r/Metal/comments/gb92l/open_metalcast_instrumetalcast_2_40_minutes_of/ <- upvotes, if you please. | 13:29 |
| greg-g | hehe, great for scream haters :) | 13:29 |
| greg-g | that's me! | 13:29 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Definitely check this episode out | 13:29 |
| snap-l | Cloudkicker is amazing | 13:30 |
| snap-l | trying to get him (them?) on the show | 13:30 |
| snap-l | put another way, one of the higher-ups at Earache records had one of their songs posted in a blog post about Djent music. | 13:31 |
| snap-l | yay, new battery shipped for my UPS | 13:42 |
| snap-l | funny enough, didn't pay anything for shipping, but had to pay tax. | 13:42 |
| wolfger | OK, I upvoted for snap-l and will definitely check this episode (and instrumentalcast #1) out. Metal rocks. Screaming sucks. | 13:45 |
| snap-l | wolfger: Thanks. :) | 13:46 |
| jrwren | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/24/google_will_not_open_source_android_honeycomb_on_release_of_first_devices/ | 14:05 |
| binbrain | hmmm | 14:08 |
| binbrain | hopefully this is just a temp thing to jump start the big shots that want 1st dibs at the market | 14:09 |
| jrwren | snap-l: D&D? Creatures? NERD!!! | 14:12 |
| jrwren | :p | 14:12 |
| wolfger | jrwren-- | 14:12 |
| jrwren | rofl | 14:13 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Right, and if you can tell me that the first place you saw a Medusa wasn't either D&D or Clash of the Titans, I'll be impressed. | 14:35 |
| Milyardo | Pretty sure first time I've heard of a Medusa was from Illiad, or the Odessy, whichever one it was in. | 14:44 |
| Milyardo | I think it was the Odessey | 14:45 |
| jrwren | medusa? | 14:49 |
| jrwren | it was probably some hanna barbara cartoon of the 70s or 80s | 14:50 |
| jrwren | they loved to have medusa or medusa like characters. | 14:50 |
| * greg-g nods | 14:54 | |
| tjagoda | http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2011/03/android-openness-withering-as-google-withhold-honeycomb-code.ars | 14:59 |
| tjagoda | whoops | 14:59 |
| tjagoda | somebody already posted | 14:59 |
| Milyardo | Google won't commit unfishined code to public repositories? | 15:02 |
| Milyardo | MY GOD | 15:02 |
| snap-l | Man, could there be more of a tempest in a teapot with this? | 15:02 |
| snap-l | will the code be released: likely | 15:03 |
| greg-g | it isn't "unfinished" though, it's just "not ready for all platforms" and the excuse of "you're going to use it wrong" is no excuse | 15:03 |
| snap-l | I'd worry more if Google suddenly said "we're never releasing this" | 15:03 |
| snap-l | patience | 15:03 |
| greg-g | BUT I WANT IT NOW! DADDY! | 15:03 |
| tjagoda | trolololol | 15:03 |
| snap-l | jesus, you'd think Google suddenly witheld the internet from people | 15:04 |
| * greg-g removes the Veruka(sp?) personality from his head | 15:04 | |
| greg-g | snap-l: http://i.imgur.com/OGc20.jpg | 15:08 |
| _stink_ | lawl | 15:10 |
| jrwren | veruka salt! | 15:11 |
| jrwren | greg-g: i LOLed | 15:12 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Totally | 15:15 |
| Milyardo | greg-g: "not ready for all platforms" sounds unfinished to me. Problem is there are public available products that use Honeycomb, that however doesn't mean it's to a point where Google would considered Finished. Not being supported on All platofrms is a big part of that. | 15:16 |
| snap-l | folks say you can't tell the differnce between regular and decaf, but I can | 15:16 |
| snap-l | it totally depends on how they process the beans | 15:16 |
| snap-l | fermaldahyde is not your friend. | 15:16 |
| snap-l | Also, Tomato is awesome. That is all | 15:17 |
| snap-l | just created two DHCP entries for two virtual machines with a few mouseclicks. | 15:17 |
| Milyardo | Tomato is awesome, not sure whats particularly awesome about static DHCP entires though | 15:18 |
| snap-l | Milyardo: so when I want to ssh into those vm boxes, I don't have to hunt. ;) | 15:18 |
| Milyardo | I wonder why you can't set up static DHCP through Avahi or Zerconf yet | 15:19 |
| Milyardo | That would be awesome | 15:19 |
| snap-l | That would be chaos. ;) | 15:20 |
| Milyardo | ubiqitous DDNS would be nice too | 15:21 |
| snap-l | can't dispute that. :) | 15:22 |
| snap-l | I should look into doing dynamic DNS via my own domain instead of relying on dyndns.org | 15:22 |
| snap-l | It's not like i don't have my own DNS that I pay for | 15:23 |
| Milyardo | THat sounds good to me, but I'm kinda attached to my Dyn-DNS name now | 15:24 |
| snap-l | I want to get away from DynDNS for some bonkers stuff they were doing | 15:27 |
| snap-l | and OpenDNS | 15:27 |
| Milyardo | I haven't heard of anything they've done recently | 15:29 |
| Milyardo | what have they been up to? | 15:29 |
| snap-l | dicking with nxdomain | 15:30 |
| snap-l | so you get landing pages instead of what you should be getting | 15:31 |
| Milyardo | zpowers@zpowers-devel:~/workspace/mumble/overlay$ host unkonwdmain.dyndns.org | 15:31 |
| Milyardo | Host unkonwdmain.dyndns.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) | 15:32 |
| Milyardo | I got an NXDOMAIN | 15:32 |
| snap-l | http://fytojs.com/ | 15:35 |
| snap-l | Milyardo: Are you using them for DNS service? | 15:35 |
| Milyardo | Locally no, just to resolve the address of my box from home, right now UM-Flint host my current resolver | 15:37 |
| Milyardo | zilog.ath.cx is the free domain I use from them now | 15:38 |
| Milyardo | mispelling zilog and trying to resolve zigol.ath.cx returns an NXDOMAIN though | 15:38 |
| DBO | snap-l, i got you some fresh fish | 16:39 |
| snap-l | ? | 16:39 |
| DBO | you'll see | 16:40 |
| DBO | you'll see in like 2 minutes when he gets here | 16:40 |
| DBO | THERE HE IS, THE MIGHT JOHN LEA | 16:40 |
| DBO | here to set up his interview | 16:40 |
| snap-l | Hi JohnLea! | 16:41 |
| DBO | snap-l, make sweet love to this manes schedule until you message yourself an interview with this man | 16:41 |
| DBO | manes/mans | 16:41 |
| JohnLea | hi | 16:41 |
| snap-l | I'm one half of the team that put together Lococast (http://lococast.net) | 16:42 |
| snap-l | The scheduling piece is rick_h_ | 16:42 |
| snap-l | I just do snarky comments and engineering. :) | 16:42 |
| DBO | rick_h_? you here? | 16:42 |
| DBO | snap-l, we need rick to do scheduling? | 16:42 |
| rick_h_ | do what? | 16:43 |
| rick_h_ | schedule what? | 16:43 |
| snap-l | Well, his schedule is a little more tight than mine | 16:43 |
| snap-l | Interview with JohnLea | 16:43 |
| rick_h_ | ah, ok sorry | 16:43 |
| rick_h_ | busy today, JohnLea == ? | 16:43 |
| snap-l | Unity Design, iirc? | 16:44 |
| DBO | lead designer of u-nighty | 16:44 |
| rick_h_ | ah, awesome | 16:44 |
| snap-l | U-nightie. ;) | 16:44 |
| snap-l | Ubuntu-branded sleepwear for women | 16:45 |
| DBO | JohnLea, speak up man :) I know you're here | 16:45 |
| DBO | snap-l, nah, thats just what the DX team thinks the official name is :P | 16:45 |
| rick_h_ | I think John is who evan told me to get a hold of | 16:45 |
| JohnLea | I'm back - yes, when would be a good time to talk? I'm really busy today and Mon, but could do anytime between Tue to Fri next week? | 16:46 |
| rick_h_ | but jcastro was protecting him so he could work more | 16:46 |
| JohnLea | but not doing a good enough job of protecting me ;-) | 16:46 |
| snap-l | Tue I have MUG board meeting | 16:46 |
| rick_h_ | sure, can do next thurs | 16:46 |
| snap-l | Thursday works for me | 16:47 |
| rick_h_ | after 8pm? | 16:47 |
| snap-l | (ET) | 16:47 |
| JohnLea | which time zone | 16:47 |
| rick_h_ | ohyea | 16:47 |
| DBO | hes in england rick_h_ | 16:47 |
| rick_h_ | gotcha | 16:47 |
| snap-l | oy | 16:47 |
| rick_h_ | so that's what, +3 or 4 these days? | 16:47 |
| wolfger | He's responsible for Unity? Get the lynch mob together. ;-) | 16:48 |
| rick_h_ | we can bump it back a bit if that's late | 16:48 |
| wolfger | +4 | 16:48 |
| snap-l | 6pm ET would be 10pm UTC | 16:48 |
| JohnLea | wolfger; yes you can blame me ;-) | 16:48 |
| DBO | i know I do | 16:48 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Would 6pm work for you? | 16:49 |
| JohnLea | earlier is a bit better if possible?? but if not I can do 10 | 16:49 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I can make it | 16:49 |
| rick_h_ | I can do whenever | 16:49 |
| snap-l | JohnLea: 6pm is right around when I get off of work. ;) | 16:49 |
| JohnLea | snap-l; it's also right around when I get off work ;-) | 16:51 |
| snap-l | heh | 16:51 |
| snap-l | so, 10pm local for you works? | 16:52 |
| snap-l | (JohnLea?) | 16:52 |
| JohnLea | ok, so 10pm UTC Thursday | 16:52 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: good? | 16:52 |
| JohnLea | IRC or mumble (I prefer voice chat) | 16:52 |
| rick_h_ | yea, sounds good | 16:52 |
| snap-l | JohnLea: Skype preferred | 16:53 |
| JohnLea | popping away from my computer, will be back in 5 | 16:53 |
| rick_h_ | ok | 16:53 |
| JohnLea | Skype is good for me | 16:53 |
| rick_h_ | pm'd you for contact info | 16:53 |
| JohnLea | thx | 16:53 |
| rick_h_ | whever you get a sec | 16:53 |
| snap-l | Thank you, JohnLea ! | 16:53 |
| brousch | snap-l: i think i'm going to dig into the latest omc this afternoon | 16:55 |
| snap-l | brousch: Cool. I hope you enjoy it | 16:57 |
| nixternal | you all tired of this cold shit yet? | 17:03 |
| snap-l | yes | 17:03 |
| nixternal | did you guys have spring this past week as well, only to end up back in winter the past couple of days? | 17:03 |
| snap-l | nixternal: You coming up to Penguicon this year? | 17:03 |
| nixternal | within the past week we went from 70s and insanely spring like to a freakin' snow storm yesterday, and today is even colder | 17:04 |
| snap-l | nixternal: Yeah, we went from having the windows open, to wanting to put in storm windows. | 17:04 |
| nixternal | snap-l: doubt it, but you never know | 17:04 |
| snap-l | nixternal: I still tell the story about how you put on the FSCK ribbon, and couldn't contain all of the attention.;) | 17:05 |
| nixternal | yeah, i sure learned not to pick up random ribbons and just put them on | 17:06 |
| snap-l | http://imgur.com/i79ih | 17:12 |
| _stink_ | wonder if i'll get fired for viewing that | 17:13 |
| _stink_ | :P | 17:13 |
| snap-l | I'm sure that man's junk was a danger to national security | 17:15 |
| snap-l | On an unrelated note, I wonder if Ron Jeremy can still fly? | 17:15 |
| jrwren | he could fly? | 17:57 |
| jrwren | i'm so tempted to paste that into a campfire chat | 17:58 |
| greg-g | man, I need to listen to this show with my real headphones at home, snap-l, this is good stuff (still on song 1) | 18:21 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Glad you are enjoying it. :) | 18:31 |
| wolfger | Now who was it spreading Android-violating-GPL FUD last week? | 18:32 |
| wolfger | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/android-linux-fud-debunked/8549?tag=nl.e540 | 18:32 |
| snap-l | I can't stand zdnet | 18:33 |
| wolfger | Yeah, I know, but this is a good, brief, to the point article | 18:33 |
| Milyardo | I should write a script what take output from /dev/urandom, run it through spellcheck, randomly replace words with the tech buzzword of the week, and make ass tons of ad revanue posting it to tech journalist sites. Think it'll work? | 19:15 |
| snap-l | Milyardo: could do the same with the words for dict | 19:18 |
| snap-l | just pull them out at random, throw them through a grammar check | 19:18 |
| Milyardo | dict would be more cpu efficient indeed | 19:20 |
| Blazeix | just feed techcrunch and zdnet through a markov generator | 19:21 |
| greg-g | hah | 19:21 |
| greg-g | how do you know that's not what they've been doing the last 2 years? | 19:21 |
| Milyardo | Well my original idea was to mash my face againt the keybaord, I think thats how real braindead tech journalist do it. | 19:22 |
| snap-l | I think they write one good piece, then they keep cutting it up ala William S. Burroughs | 19:23 |
| snap-l | and resubmitting the same words in different order, adding new buzzwords as they go along | 19:23 |
| snap-l | so something like "The Honeywell computer is a revolutionary design" becomes "design revolutionary cloud computer is a" | 19:24 |
| Milyardo | Just tried mashing "Udfnjkalk;sf" into Openoffice and spellcheck offered Evangelical as a corection, I think I jsut found my buzzword for the week | 19:24 |
| greg-g | "ok guys, this week the buzzwords will be 'cloud,' 'WINNING,' and 'oh my god I hate my life.'" | 19:24 |
| snap-l | "design revolutionary cloud computer is the WINNING" | 19:25 |
| Milyardo | BI-WINNING? | 19:26 |
| snap-l | Now, add a random David Hasselhoff appearancee, and it's Family Guy. | 19:26 |
| greg-g | lol | 19:26 |
| snap-l | add an anecdote about how you were one of the three journalists in the room when they unveiled core memory for the first time, and you're Jerry Pournelle. :) | 19:27 |
| snap-l | (and yes, I totally respect Jerry Pournelle) | 19:27 |
| snap-l | "design revolutionary cloud computer is an affront to computing freedom" - Now it's Boycott Novell | 19:28 |
| snap-l | I think we're on to something here | 19:29 |
| _stink_ | Milyardo: gahaha re spellcheck | 19:31 |
| snap-l | We should totally create tech journalist filters, like jive / chef | 19:35 |
| snap-l | greg-g: What's this about arduino stuff this weekend? | 20:58 |
| greg-g | snap-l: a very basic intro to arduino at the hacker space in A2, All Hands Active | 20:59 |
| greg-g | there will be coffee and such though :) | 20:59 |
| jrwren | David Barrett is dumb as shit and I sure as hell don't want to work with him at expensify. That said, I think I understand what he was trying to say | 20:59 |
| lotia | greg-g: thanks much for that catch. | 21:00 |
| jrwren | http://blog.expensify.com/2011/03/25/ceo-friday-why-we-dont-hire-net-programmers/ | 21:00 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Looks interesting | 21:00 |
| greg-g | lotia: oh, no worries | 21:01 |
| greg-g | lotia: should we /join #OERbit ;) (probably not, really) | 21:02 |
| lotia | since #oer has sooo much traffic. | 21:02 |
| greg-g | haha | 21:02 |
| lotia | must differentiate between the two. | 21:02 |
| greg-g | snap-l: yeah, not sure what will happen, but could be fun. it'll be my first time doing any arduino | 21:03 |
| greg-g | lotia: but, to be honest, I just wanted to get my name in the commit history :) (and, holy 43 meg git repo batman!) | 21:04 |
| lotia | is it just 43 meg. | 21:06 |
| lotia | it was 181 on my local machine since i cloned our local dev repo. | 21:07 |
| lotia | so you got the LITE version | 21:07 |
| snap-l | jrwren: This sentence alone discounts this entire blog post about not hiring .Net developers: Now let me clarify . .NET is a dandy language. | 21:09 |
| greg-g | hah, "thanks" | 21:09 |
| lotia | snap-l: i was just about to ask if that was a bit of a misstatement | 21:10 |
| snap-l | That's like saying te JVM is a dandy language. | 21:11 |
| lotia | yeah isn't it describing largely the CLR and a set of specs rather than a language? | 21:12 |
| snap-l | "Instead, we look for a very different sort of person. The sort of person who grew up cooking squirrels over a campfire with sharpened sticks . squirrels they caught and skinned while scavenging in the deep forests for survival. We don.t want a short order chef, we want a Lord of the Flies, carried by wolves into civilization and raised in a French kitchen full of copper-bottomed pots and fresh-picked herbs. We need people who can not on | 21:12 |
| snap-l | so essentially they want rednecks | 21:12 |
| lotia | rather rednecks who hang out with Thomas Keller | 21:13 |
| lotia | greg-g: yeah it's a bit... big boned? | 21:15 |
| snap-l | So, essentially you want redneck coders that will kill it and grill it. Yeah, good luck building anything useful. | 21:15 |
| snap-l | Also, .NET is a platform, not a language, but I guess those squirrel-cookers you have might see it otherwise. | 21:15 |
| snap-l | (That's what I posted on their site) | 21:15 |
| lotia | snap-l: you're off their christmas card list | 21:16 |
| jrwren | snap-l: agreed. | 21:19 |
| snap-l | lotia: I'm oover it | 21:22 |
| snap-l | Honestly, if someone won't hire an otherwise qualified developer because they have a particular technology on their resume, I don't want to work there | 21:23 |
| snap-l | Not everyone gets to work in their ideal utopian development environment | 21:24 |
| snap-l | I'm more interested in the person that can make something awesome out of VB than I am with someone that makes shit with Haskell | 21:24 |
| snap-l | poor craftsmen blame the tools | 21:25 |
| lotia | good point. but IMHO one can never underestimate the value of good tech enabling nice creative code. | 21:26 |
| lotia | agreed that as long as a language is turing complete you can do anything that any other language can do. but i have way more fun wirting ruby/python/clojure/scheme than php. | 21:28 |
| lotia | writing even more than wirting | 21:28 |
| snap-l | Oh no doubt | 21:28 |
| snap-l | and this gets into the part-time developer rant that rick_h_ has as well | 21:29 |
| lotia | and i think if an environment reduces drudgery it frees me up to be both more meticulous and gives me more motivation to burnish stuff. | 21:29 |
| lotia | but i fully agree that great programmers can come from any background. | 21:30 |
| lotia | thanks for the link to an entertaining post snap-l i'm off to dinner. | 21:33 |
| === lotia is now known as lotia-away | ||
| snap-l | laterness, lotia-away | 21:37 |
| snap-l | and than jrwren for the link. :) | 21:37 |
| lotia-away | oh sorry thanks jrwren for the link | 21:40 |
| * lotia-away fails at attribution. sorry greg-g | 21:40 | |
| snap-l | heh | 21:42 |
| greg-g | ;) | 21:50 |
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