[14:27] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[14:28] <Unit193> Good morning charlie-tca!
[17:10] <micahg> ochosi: BTW, Debian took the Shimmer patches for gmusicbrowser
[17:11] <charlie-tca> images seem to be working today. At least both alternate images installed! and, mr_pouit, great job on the colors. Thanks again.
[17:32] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: We got something wrong with the workspaces. Now both alternate and desktop images give a single workspace in Virtualbox installations. Live cd has two workspaces.
[20:09] <ochosi> micahg: hey, how come?
[20:10] <micahg> ochosi: because they're nice?
[20:10] <ochosi> micahg: you mean debian or the patches?
[20:11] <micahg> ochosi: Debian :)
[20:12] <ochosi> micahg: hm, tbh i really would've preferred debian to keep the upstream version and only xubuntu have the patched version
[20:12] <micahg> ochosi: why?
[20:12] <ochosi> micahg: i don't wanna piss off the upstream dev by going around him and submitting my patches (that he knows about) to distros "behind his back"
[20:13] <micahg> ochosi: they grabbed it :)
[20:13] <ochosi> micahg: you mean just like that?
[20:13] <micahg> ochosi: yep, I didn't do it :)
[20:13] <ochosi> woot?
[20:13] <micahg> yep
[20:14] <ochosi> how the hell, i mean who the hell...
[20:14] <micahg> although now, I'm tempted to try to just put everything through Debian next cycle
[20:14] <micahg> alessio
[20:14] <ochosi> hmm, not sure, really wanna talk to squentin first
[20:14] <ochosi> it's really imperative for me that he's happy with it
[20:15] <ochosi> and i'm not all sure i would be if i were in his place
[20:15] <micahg> ochosi: well, if it's in Ubuntu, there's pretty much no reason not to have it back in Debian
[20:17] <ochosi> micahg: i'm not sure i agree, debian is ubuntu's upstream, not the other way round
[20:18] <ochosi> micahg: and: i specifically talked to squentin about patching gmb for ubuntu, but i also said at the time that it was only about ubuntu
[20:19] <ochosi> micahg: he agreed on that, but now it looks a bit like i'm a douche
[20:20] <ochosi> micahg: hope you understand my position in this
[20:21] <micahg> ochosi: well, I can talk to alessio and get it reversed in Debian if it's a big deal
[20:22] <charlie-tca> ochosi, micahg, mr_pouit : we only get 1 workspace from any image now when installing.
[20:22] <charlie-tca> live cd has two workspaces
[20:23] <ochosi> micahg: i
[20:23] <ochosi> micahg: i'll first talk to squentin about it and see what he thinks/how he reacts
[20:23] <ochosi> charlie-tca: strange, i just added a new testuser to natty two days ago and got two workspaces
[20:23] <charlie-tca> fresh install only gives one
[20:24] <ochosi> hm, this is a really strange bug
[20:25] <ochosi> charlie-tca: i'm currently on a work-trip (till wednesday), i hope i'll have time to try a fresh install when i'm back and maybe we can debug it a bit and narrow it down
[20:25] <charlie-tca> okay, but we got beta1 release on Thursday
[20:25] <ochosi> hmm
[20:26] <Sysi> i'll try
[20:26] <ochosi> yeah, but i really can't do more testing here @hotel... :(
[20:26] <Sysi> 1H to download..
[20:26] <ochosi> good luck Sysi
[20:26] <charlie-tca> I understand that one. It will be fine. We need to make sure we get it fixed for the beta2, though, please.
[20:26] <Sysi> charlie-tca: alternate/desktop both?
[20:26] <charlie-tca> both
[20:27] <ochosi> charlie-tca: is there a bugreport for that already?
[20:27] <charlie-tca> um, nope
[20:27] <Sysi> i'd like to see colours of alternate but it's unsure on usb :/
[20:27] <charlie-tca> just me compaining daily
[20:27] <charlie-tca> the colors suck, we get a pink background with the orange and purple/pink/grey text
[20:28] <charlie-tca> but after the install, colors are good now!
[20:29] <charlie-tca> I will have to try some hardware installs this weekend, to see what I get now. Then I will file the bug. 
[20:35] <micahg> ochosi: you can tell him you and I didn't do this, but in the end, it's open source and Debian can do what it wants with it
[20:37] <ochosi> micahg: hmyeah, i'll see what replies
[22:05] <Sysi> ubiquity still isn't nice, but i really like graybird
[22:06] <knome> ubiquity isn't nice?
[22:06] <charlie-tca> ubiquity uses the Ubuntu default colors, but once installed, we don't have to look at them again.
[22:07] <knome> you don't mean the slideshow, right?
[22:07]  * charlie-tca don't mean the slideshow
[22:07] <Sysi> i haven't got that far yet
[22:07] <charlie-tca> that background behind it, and the installer up to it
[22:08] <Sysi> "custom partitioning" is now "something else", popup about keyboard settings is stupid and with 512MB ram I/O get so bad that mouse isn't moving because of swapping
[22:09] <charlie-tca> yup, but at least you can now upgrade from the cd, right?
[22:10] <charlie-tca> custom partitioning is "manual partitioning" now, isn't it?
[22:10] <charlie-tca> you can have "side-by-side", "upgrade", "full-disk", or the bottom one, which I think is "manual" 
[22:11] <Sysi> for me it said "something else"
[22:11] <charlie-tca> What language are you installing in?
[22:11] <Sysi> i think that wasn't even translated..
[22:11]  * charlie-tca might not have read it all
[22:11] <Sysi> too much english, i can't really remember
[22:12] <charlie-tca> I will do another install and try to read it
[22:12] <Sysi> KB bug propably will be fixed
[22:12] <Sysi> ("bug")
[22:12] <charlie-tca> I like filing bugs for bad wording
[22:36] <Sysi> i have two workspaces, installed from current daily-live
[22:39] <charlie-tca> hm, hardware right?
[22:39] <charlie-tca> definitely a very weird bug
[22:40] <Sysi> yeah, hw
[22:40] <charlie-tca> Sysi: thanks for doing the install. At least it is not just me :-)
[22:41]  * charlie-tca did installs in VBox, got one workspace, did installs on hardware, did not believe there could be two workspaces.