[08:33] <bazhang> News, Venus and Involvement at Cloud Portal http://cloud.ubuntu.com/
[08:33] <MatBoy> nice
[08:34] <MatBoy> when installing a cloud, is this totally free ? so not like you have to pay for landscape ?
[08:39] <flaccid> what is landscape?
[08:40] <MatBoy> flaccid: http://www.canonical.com/enterprise-services/ubuntu-advantage/landscape
[08:41] <flaccid> UEC is just eucalyptus. i have not seen this but it just looks like a canonical commercial product
[08:41] <flaccid> eucalyptus is a buggy private cloud stack
[08:47] <MatBoy> flaccid: yes I would to avoid such buggy commercial stuff :)
[08:49] <flaccid> MatBoy: use cloudstack or openstack then
[08:52] <MatBoy> flaccid: yes reading on that... but you run that in your clouds ?
[09:11] <flaccid> MatBoy: i mainly use ec2
[09:11] <flaccid> i.e. a public cloud
[09:43] <MatBoy> flaccid: ok
[16:05] <Yuvaraj> Hello Kimo
[17:39] <ubuntu> whois ubuntu