[00:56] \o [00:57] hi haz [00:57] :) [00:57] hamitron: \o/! [00:57] * HazRPG loves the night shift crew [00:58] haha [00:58] gonna need a drink soon [00:58] anything in particular? [00:59] coffee [01:01] on the hour, time for it [01:01] brb [01:01] enjoy :) [01:03] morning [01:04] well, that explains why easystrokes compiz integration is down :D [01:04] apparently compiz in natty has no dbus xD [01:04] I think it's a bug, though \o/ [01:05] has no dbus? what on earth do you mean by that? [01:06] I mean the dbus interface is gone xD [01:06] the plugin is still there, it creates a session but has no objects [01:06] xD [01:08] gord: if your interested look at it in d-feet [01:08] or try any of the examples on the compiz wiki, they won't work [01:08] random [01:08] bk [01:09] indeed [02:28] bit slow tonight on here [02:29] I'm still not awake :/ [02:29] shauno: clearly you are :P [02:29] * hamitron just cba [02:29] chosen a name for my vps, about it [02:30] :/ [02:30] I'm reading reads trolls arguing about ps3 stuff [02:30] reading through* [02:31] don't get me started on the ps3 :/ [02:31] ;p [02:31] I can rant for hours [02:31] :) [02:31] how about Rebecca Black - Friday? [02:31] huh? [02:31] oh, you haven't been introduced yet? [02:32] no... [02:32] I don't think [02:32] ;/ [02:32] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2LRROpph0 [02:32] ah well [02:32] I have youtube blocked [02:32] ;) [02:34] hamitron: see now ya just making me want to post an alt link: http://www.break.com/index/rebecca-blacks-friday-worst-song-ever-2023476 [02:35] that is blocked too [02:35] fine... read this: http://www.directlyrics.com/rebecca-black-friday-lyrics.html [02:35] seriously, you don't watch vids online? [02:36] no [02:36] each to their own... [02:36] I found a lot of my download limit was getting used [02:36] so blocked such stuff [02:36] ah, that makes sense [02:37] I normally have a tunnel for just myself [02:37] although, personally I just set a quota block on certain sites [02:37] but I have recently re-configured a lot of stuff [02:37] not got around to making the tunnel [02:37] :) [02:38] 7am, waking up in the morning, Gotta be fresh, gotta go downstairs, Gotta have my bowl, gotta have cereal, Seein’ everything, the time is goin’, Tickin’ on and on, everybody’s rushin’, Gotta get down to the bus stop, Gotta catch my bus, I see my friends (My friends) [02:39] imagine that... being sung by a female justin beba [02:39] with lyrics like that, it really makes you believe that the worlds is getting dumber [02:40] tbh, it depends on the tune [02:40] ;) [02:41] as I said, its like justin beba [02:41] pop/rnb/slow ... kinda tune [02:42] with a hint of dance (sorta?) [02:42] wtf is justin beba? ;/ [02:42] I feel really out of touch with the world sometimes, haha [02:44] you're not missing much [02:44] yeah, you really aren't [02:44] not?* [02:44] your* [02:45] I should have slept properly ... I don't think 2x30min naps really counts >_< [02:45] "you really aren't" sounds fine to me ;/ [02:45] also, radios tuned to Radio 1 should be banned! [02:46] or the BBC in general ;) [02:46] hamitron: ...heh, so it is - lack of proper sleep makes my comprehension skills deteriorate [02:46] I was flicking thru stations the other morning and caught radio1 playing bohemian rhapsody at 5am. caught me by surprise [02:46] if that even works as a thing... [02:46] shauno: radio 1 is good when people should be sleeping xD [02:47] I like the dnb sessions they have between 3-6am sometimes [02:47] dnb? [02:47] and the rock music they play once every month or so in the early am's [02:47] I tend to listen to the world service because they actually have some pretty interesting programs. I don't go to radio for music :/ [02:47] dnb - Drum n Bass [02:48] most my music I listen to is on Absolute Radio Classic Rock [02:48] ;) [02:48] shauno: ... don't judge, but I like classic FM most of the time [02:48] hamitron: that's over digital though right? [02:48] I stream online [02:48] ah [02:48] but yeh [02:49] 32kbps I can live with [02:49] can't get that in my car without expensive gear to do it with [02:49] not even on a phone? [02:49] last I looked a DAB radio costs around £50 [02:49] dab sucks anyway [02:50] FM ftw [02:50] I'd only ever get it to listen to ARCR [02:50] but only if it was cheap to buy... or I could build one easily myself [02:50] I can't stop DAB breaking up [02:50] so given up on it [02:50] I just stream everything on my phone, so I'm not bound to local stations [02:51] better than using a phone over 3g that chops in and out during travels [02:51] I can't even get a 2g signal :( [02:51] I use to use last.fm on my phone via the stereo of the car's tape drive... but well, having to reach for the phone every so often to click play once its lost signal isn't really good for driving [02:52] no [02:52] tbh, I wouldn't want music when driving [02:52] like to listen to the engine [02:52] :) [02:53] shauno: yeah I used last.fm, because I knew it would play whatever genre I wanted to listen to... or even just must that it's decided I like with my account being over 7 years standing the "personal radio/neighbouring radio" is pretty darn accurate to my taste now [02:55] ...erm that was a mega fail, I'm too lazy to correct [02:58] right [02:58] off to bed [02:58] laters you guys [02:58] :) [02:58] catch ya later dude [03:00] bah. foods needs to be faster. [03:03] tell me about it [03:03] * HazRPG runs to check timer [03:04] bah! 7mins [03:06] probably won't be enough to feed me... should probably order something in to go with it [03:09] shauno: how much sleep you get in the end? [03:10] Foods up! [03:11] not quite 8, but enough [03:11] better than what I had [03:13] oh dear god [03:13] just trying an irc client I haven't poked at in a while [03:13] didn't think that it would have remembered settings from last time I used it, 6-9 months ago [03:14] it just autojoined me into a shedload of channels [03:15] heh :P [03:16] guessing you didn't purge remove [03:16] if such thing exists on osx [03:16] wouldn't have made a difference :) [03:17] if purge removes things from $HOME, someone needs to be shot [03:34] ah [03:35] I thought you meant global settings [03:38] shauno: oh yeah, when you were looking through those photos earlier... did ya see any of my panorama attempts? [03:38] I think they came out pretty good :) [03:39] heh, nope [03:39] shauno: e.g. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/KTJiboPLP0U1p-YiuOy5bkSln1IbCow2Lz_7Dmnl72k?feat=directlink [03:40] considering I'd never managed to get panorama to work on any camera before... I think I did well :) [03:40] my tripod investment helped too :) [03:45] I'm no photographer, but I think I did well overall with some of the snaps I took out there [03:45] esp. considering I just used a regular 10MP portable camera [03:46] you'd never believe this was take through a wire fence for example with tiny holes (see background for reference): https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/svoTHVM_MvVK9Yxdz2BM_ESln1IbCow2Lz_7Dmnl72k?feat=directlink [03:46] actually wait, this is better reference of how tiny the hole was: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/HR-Ga7an8vI0d5mVrzhrLUSln1IbCow2Lz_7Dmnl72k?feat=directlink [03:48] although my skillz can't be any good, I don't think I had any comments from friends/family over facebook :( [03:52] have I been joining and parting? or is this thing losing it's mind already [03:53] hmm, well there hasn't been a net.split [03:55] I should really get off the kindle website... [03:56] (amazon/kindle site) [03:56] if I keep this up, I'll have enough books to last the rest of the year >_< [03:58] I've always got enough books to last a year. <3 safaribookonline.com :) [04:00] yeah, but I also have the 20 odd ebooks I got from gutenburg :P [04:04] Time not found :P [04:05] ? [04:05] guessing he means for reading too many books [04:05] :P [04:05] when I said that the time was 4:04 :P [04:05] ah [04:05] :P [04:13] xD [04:13] considering it's a free ebook, its quite awesome! [04:14] "There was an old robot quite vain; With jealousy almost insane. It made him so cross; That I was his boss; And firmly in charge of his brain. [04:14] " [04:24] "A robot once made by the Franks; Liked plenty of steam in its tanks; But overhead pressure; In excessive measure; Blew out all its memory banks." [04:25] The books called "The First Completely Electronic Robot and Science Fiction Limerick Book" and is free :) [04:54] ugh. what not. my card's being declined, while the bank is showing it perfectly fit for the job. grrr. [04:55] :/ [04:56] ain't technology great [04:57] always [04:57] "computer says no" comes to mind :/ [04:58] reminds me, someone needs to come up with a way to give ram away [04:59] every time I get a new laptop, first thing I do is max out the ram aftermarket. so you end up with little boxes with silly amounts of ram in just kicking around the place [05:01] this one's going to have 4Gb removed from it in the first week. seems like wasteful amounts to just leave to rot in a box [05:17] shauno, you could mail the ram to me. I am pretty sure that would work. [05:18] you got anything that uses 204pin sodimms? (eg, it's not desktop ram) [05:20] No, but I rebuild computers for a couple of charity groups and I would find it a home before long. I am in the US. I bet there are good places in England that could use it. [05:22] well if I can find anyone who can use matched pairs of laptop ram, they're welcome to it [05:40] shauno: try ebay :) [05:43] I tend to avoid ebay .. it's too much like hard work [05:44] last time I sold something on ebay the buyer went ape because there was a catch that I made very clear in the description [05:44] just more hassle than it's worth [05:46] fairy nuff [05:46] I should probably get some proper sleep [05:46] eyes are literally on fire, and glowly much like the cig. end I just put out [06:22] right, going to bed guys, nitey nite [06:28] ooh, that's nifty. Calibre will work as a content server for stanza [06:29] stanza? [06:31] ebook reader I use on my phone [06:31] ah [06:31] handy because it hooks into a whole bunch of places as stores, instead of being tied to one vendor [06:32] including stuff like feedbooks & gutenberg [06:33] I use my Sony e-reader thingy [06:33] the content server in it was a bit rough, it'd only show the document I had open in the reader on my desktop. but calibre's just pops up as another store/source [06:39] also: morning MartijnVdS [06:39] morning [06:39] * MartijnVdS tries something completely different re: sat tuner [06:39] if this works, it might be a temperature issue :| [07:09] hehe ..don't mark /bin/sleep ugo-x .. stuff goes nuts in subtle ways [07:12] shauno: lots of init scripts [07:12] and postinsts [07:12] I'd guess [07:15] probably not the prettiest way to do that, but shuffled it along [07:16] why did you do it? [07:17] I like blunt weapons [07:18] okay, got an app that'll one file at a time [07:18] you accidentally a word [07:18] if you tell it to open 10 files, it'll open 10, and chomp thru them one at a time [07:18] if you tell it to open 20, it'll queue thru 20 [07:18] if you tell it to open 50, it'll fall over and die [07:19] so I did a for glob; open file; sleep 2 loop, thinking I'd throttle them going in [07:19] but every time I fed it a file, it came to front & stole focus. having focus stolen every 2 seconds is rather annoying [07:20] so I'd mark sleep -x, let the queue fill up, then mark it +x again while it chomped away [07:20] Sounds like you need to learn about queues and/or map/reduce ;) [07:20] ugly as sin, but it got them thru as fast as it could handle without stuffing the queue until it exploded [07:21] it was neither a sensible plan, nor a sensible fix. but I didn't want to start at the start again :( [07:23] now it appears I've been throttled by a web service that doesn't like me scraping it at a sustained rate, and something I completely forgot was running went nuts when I stole broke sleep :/ [07:24] shauno: lftp can do HTTP mirrors with multiple parallel downloads [07:25] that tends to get me kicked off it too [07:25] yes [07:25] don't do that :) [07:25] why would you do that? :) [07:26] their limit is seconds per connection, not connections per second :) [07:28] it'd be nice if they had a proper api, but instead I scrape several thousand xml files per run, then nap for 3 hours and start again [07:35] yay 3ds :D now i can see the world in three dee's [07:38] heh, fun [07:39] morning all [07:39] issyl0: what train? [07:39] 3d camera is cool :) [07:40] http://supertunaman.com/cdl/cdl_v0-1.txt awesome [07:43] AlanBell: Wut.. :) [08:05] today I shall be mostly hacking the government [08:07] if anyone can get to the Guardian offices near Kings Cross at 6PM you can come and see what we have been up to [08:07] and I expect I will be on IRC looking for help and ideas throughout the day [08:07] http://rewiredstate.org/events/national-hack-the-government-day-2011 [08:08] you'll be in cuba by night fall [08:11] they will never take me alive [08:11] that's not a problem [08:11] right, time to go find a train [08:11] laters all [08:11] bye [08:34] aloha [08:36] yo czajkowski [08:39] marxjohnson: howdy [08:39] marxjohnson: up to anything today [08:40] grrr @ banks. someone remind me why they're better than keeping socks under the mattress? [08:40] food shopping \m/, [08:40] and making a website for my gf [08:40] not much else [08:40] you? [08:42] * dutchie is off to the boat race today [08:42] eventually [08:42] maybe [08:43] marxjohnson: heading to London later to see the bf and go for dinner [08:43] I was going to go to the march in london, but I can't afford to get there :p [08:43] relaxing weekend this weekend :) busy couple of weeks ahead of me [08:43] marxjohnson: what March ? [08:43] * czajkowski hugs dutchie [08:43] http://marchforthealternative.org.uk/ [08:44] hmm [08:45] dont think it effects the routes I'll be going [08:45] everyone is going to london it seems then [08:45] * czajkowski has yet to finish up getting stuff ready for document freedom day next week [08:46] dutchie: it's where all the cool kids hang out ;) [08:46] morning!! [08:48] danfish: hello there stranger [08:48] czajkowski: hiya [08:48] danfish: how did your conference go ? [08:48] a week of no internets \o/ [08:49] oh my [08:49] czajkowski: the conference was....interesting [08:50] congrats on the rubgy (through gritted teeth) [08:50] was the pub OK? [08:51] :D [08:51] yup rugby was great [08:51] pub was nice, bit packed but I suspect every pub tbh would be that day. [08:52] they wouldnt open upstairs which was kinda annoying and the volume was a tad loud but overall great [08:52] * MartijnVdS builds a kernel.. for the first time in AGES [08:52] ooh, they normally do open upstairs there. Maybe staffing probs [08:52] danfish: but a damn good game :D [08:53] danfish: they said a private function was on, but went up and it was dead quiet, bit naff really as more space would have been good [08:53] czajkowski: a deserved win. England didn't turn up [08:53] nods [08:53] we must plan for the world cup :) [08:54] danfish: you should have seen the grin onmy face though :) and I had some irish friends over [08:54] danfish: yup! definately so, and I think we'll even find a place that will let us reseve seats this time [08:54] I saw theopensourcerer's tweets re your grin [08:54] he wasn't a happy chappy with me at all [08:54] :( [08:55] czajkowski: maybe his local for the world cup? [08:56] in farnham [08:56] oh yes [08:56] we may need to pick a neutral game and not an england v ireland game or he may kill me [08:57] danfish: though watching a pub full of english supporters cheer on the french was rather amusing [08:59] czajkowski: really? Not true Englishmen then ;) [08:59] well they had to, france needed to beat wales in order to guarantee england to win [08:59] danfish: did you see the video that has been released? [09:00] err, no [09:01] the nike one? [09:01] shauno: aye [09:01] cant find the link now [09:01] what a storm in a teacup that was :/ [09:03] danfish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ5VT_u3Lb4 [09:05] hah - a healthy dose of fail there [09:06] danfish: next time pick a match that doesnt conflict with a conference :) [09:10] :) [09:10] that's my one conference for the year - box ticked [09:23] Good morning peeps :) [09:25] Morning [09:27] Why is anybody even here this early on a Saturday morning? [09:28] My excuse is that my GF needs more sleep but I'm restless so banished myself to downstairs [09:28] uhrm [09:28] because it's 10:30 :) [09:28] MartijnVdS: either you're in a different timezone, or you've changed your clocks a day early [09:29] za mrt 26 10:29:16 CET 2011 [09:30] So, different timezone it is [09:32] ooh I forgot they change soon [09:34] Tomorrow at 1am -> 2am [09:35] just means I have to be paranoid about monday morning, as the iphone seems to have an odd talent for borking dst changes [09:36] bigcalm: 2am-3am here [09:36] shauno: Apple is good at that, yes [09:36] I mean, I understand, it's not like we've done this twice a year for the last 60+ years. it totally makes sense that it should cause the alarm clock to go into "just kidding" mode [09:36] Just use Ubuntu as your alarm clock ;) [09:36] I don't sleep with my computers :) [09:37] The opposite sounds perverted [09:38] shauno: OK get an Android phone then [09:38] hah, nevar. I'll just wake one of my old palms up for the night [09:38] shauno: So you don't sleep with androids, so you'll just use your palm? [09:38] -so [09:39] :/ [09:39] Set 2 alarms, one hour each side of your usual alarm. [09:39] * daubers just got a clock that uses the DAB time signal [09:39] daubers: hm, that sounds like a good idea.. [09:40] bigcalm: that didn't help last time :/ last time it just quit sounding periodic alarms (eg, ones set to go off "every monday" or such) [09:40] * bigcalm wonders if a reboot is really required with the recent updates. Grumble [09:40] bigcalm: kernel updates? yes [09:40] shauno: don't sleep ;) [09:40] bigcalm: other updates? maybe.. but logging out/back in might work [09:40] bigcalm: "I haven't slept because I didn't trust my phone" [09:41] MartijnVdS: if there were a kernel update, I'd accept that [09:41] bigcalm: that's actually plan A :) [09:41] I understand that ubuntu is user friendly. A reboot is simpler to understand for the masses [09:42] * bigcalm still dislikes having window buttons on the lhs [09:42] the AR game on 3ds where it takes a picture of yourself then puts your flying head dancing around the room you are in and you ahve to shoot it before it kisses you is... disturbing... [09:42] * MartijnVdS has a micro-sd card reader that's also a 3G modem 8-) [09:42] or was it the other way around [09:47] really need to remember to eat food when taking pain killers [09:47] so not feeling well now :( [09:47] bugger [09:47] czajkowski: *hugs* [09:47] czajkowski: how's the back? [09:47] really bad :( [09:47] I thought you were getting it sorted? [09:48] takes more than 1 physio visit [09:48] i see traction in my future [09:48] :) [09:48] :( [09:48] Grr, laptop keyboards [09:51] * daubers ponders meandering into town for coffee [09:52] morning [09:52] daubers, sounds like a half decent plan :) [09:53] Which half? Meandering or coffee? :P [09:54] Could take the EOS for a wonder along the river too [09:54] MartijnVdS: both [09:56] EOS? after fiddling with eclipse ... it's not so bad... still looking for others... any ide suggestions? [09:56] willy_1977: netbeans [09:57] or just vim + a proper rc [09:57] vim :o [09:57] vim ♥ [09:58] I'm still going through the man but I've used gVim on windows as a replacement to notepad for a while now... so picked up some commands... [09:58] good start [09:58] I'd recommend starting with an empty .vimrc, and then building up one by reading through the help [09:58] and/or vim.wikia [09:59] http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki [09:59] MartijnVdS: thanks I'll bookmark that for the future. [10:01] and I just got through installing netbeans this morning to suck it and see, I like how it's fairly easy to tidy up after all this messing around... [10:01] not that there's much to it of course sudo apt get etc. :p [10:01] It appears to be tea o'clock! [10:02] bigcalm: so it does [10:02] I'm using Aptana (eclipse) with viplugin, best of both world ;-) [10:02] ooOOOO tea break... what a great time to get in here... [10:02] bigcalm: fresh darjeeling \o/ [10:02] I wish sat scanning wasn't so slow :| [10:02] earl grey if I've not supped it all [10:06] yaknow, growing up on star trek, I was kinda let down when I tried earl grey :( [10:07] shauno: it's not to everyones taste can be too... hummm... "flowery" I guess... [10:08] Right, off the Thresher's for the weekly shop... see you all later! [10:08] but that's the only reason I have it I take great pleasure asking for "earl grey, hot" [10:08] * exobuzz drinks "yorkshire" tea.. (obviously grown in yorkshire ;-) ) [10:09] marxjohnson: I'll bear the ide suggestion in mind ;) see you later. [10:09] it's a good brew though [10:09] exobuzz: +1 for yorkshire tea [10:09] loose tea of course. im a tea snob. [10:09] exobuzz: not nice with southampton water, have to use the special "hard water" version for some reason [10:10] we are in a hardwater area, and the normal version does well for me [10:10] how odd. maybe it's just the flat where I was living last time I tried it ;) [10:10] I went through a phase of that - in a recent house move I lost my tea making for one cup and strainer yet to be replaced... [10:10] my stepfather was a tea taster, so there was never an excuse for a badly made tea when i was a kid. [10:11] quite right, some of us are British you know... there's no excuse for a badly made brew ever ! [10:11] hehe [10:15] how you doin' anyhow exobuzz? [10:15] popey, i got a natty alpha for joggler if you wanted to give it a run. i just need to sync with the server and do a build [10:15] willy_1977, slight headache (my own fault), but apart from that good. you ? [10:19] ahhh self induce headaches ;) [10:19] I'm good just glad I'm finally at the end of a bad week... [10:23] * willy_1977 is trying to decide.... an afternoon at a kids party or an afternoon doing housework :( [10:24] i dont much like your choice there heh [10:24] where is "put feet up and veg out" [10:25] I know... can you tell that mrs w had a hand in those choices... [10:25] yeh [10:26]