[03:04] <SkrappJaw> Any heartland blokes in the room?
[03:06] <paultag> SkrappJaw: Howdy, friendo
[03:06] <paultag> Cleveland, here
[03:06] <Cheri703> hey SkrappJaw :)
[03:06] <paultag> heyya Cheri703 :)
[03:06] <Cheri703> paultag: SkrappJaw came to ubuntu hour!
[03:06] <SkrappJaw> Whats up Cheri? I started playing with x11 over SSH today
[03:06] <Cheri703> Unit193: this is the person I'd mentioned :)
[03:07] <Cheri703> SkrappJaw: Unit193 is one of the guys who usually comes to our U-H's
[03:07] <Cheri703> yeah? isn't it awesome?
[03:07] <SkrappJaw> its fun
[03:07] <SkrappJaw> im just playing with a vbox though
[03:07] <paultag> woohoo!!!
[03:08] <SkrappJaw> w00t
[03:08] <SkrappJaw> Yea. I can think of ways to help out my pals with SSH if I cant sit and actually be there.
[03:09] <Cheri703> it's pretty darn handy
[03:09] <Cheri703> paultag: side note: have you noticed the COMPLETE lack of dmcglone since I commented on his crap? :/
[03:10] <paultag> Cheri703: yeah... I did. Sadsies.
[03:10] <paultag> It's OK
[03:10] <Cheri703> yeah, I just find it ridiculous that someone would opt to just leave instead of perhaps toning down their comments...oh well
[03:11] <SkrappJaw> Can't please every one.
[03:12] <Cheri703> yeah
[03:12] <paultag> He'll be back after he cools off
[03:12] <paultag> I'm sure of it
[03:12] <Cheri703> I stayed up most of the night helping a canadian ubuntu friend figure out gnucash :)
[03:13] <SkrappJaw> I may have to have you show my mom how to use GNU cash. She's treasurer for her local water community board. Its a little neighborhood in Madison with it's own well system.
[03:14] <SkrappJaw> I'll give her your card.
[03:14] <Cheri703> sure :)
[03:14] <canthus13> paultag: That's been a couple of weeks... how long do you think he'll take to 'cool off'?
[03:14] <SkrappJaw> She wants to take everything for the water community digital.
[03:14] <Cheri703> it's pretty robust. I use it in a very simple way, but it can be used for ALL KINDS of other stuff
[03:15] <Cheri703> canthus13: I feel a little bit bad, but as I said to him that day, I like him, I was just tired of his junk, and if I didn't like him, I wouldn't have said anything :/
[03:15] <paultag> canthus13: 03:15 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Last seen  : Mar 06 19:21:31 2011 (2 weeks, 5 days, 07:53:29 ago)
[03:15] <paultag> No clue
[03:15] <paultag> but I've seen this happen time and time again
[03:15] <SkrappJaw> Yea. All they need is to track expenses for the water system and the pump house and who has paid up their bills in the community. stuff like that.
[03:15] <Cheri703> yeah, totally doable
[03:16] <SkrappJaw> Fantastic.
[03:16] <canthus13> Cheri703: I was there... I stayed out of it, but I was there. :)
[03:16] <Cheri703> yeah
[03:17] <SkrappJaw> what happened?
[03:17] <canthus13> Cheri703: You were right, of course.  I just didn't wanna have it seem like we were ganging up on him.
[03:17] <canthus13> SkrappJaw: She called him out on some sexist remarks.
[03:18] <canthus13> SkrappJaw: He's a bit of a redneck.
[03:18] <SkrappJaw> Oh. Ya you told me bout that, Cheri. Briefly
[03:18] <Cheri703> yeah
[03:18] <SkrappJaw> I'm cool with hill billies, cause that's my blood. But rednecks are a whole story,
[03:20] <canthus13> SkrappJaw: You understand the mentality, though. I don't think he's deliberately trying to be a jerk, he just doesn't really think about what he's saying.
[03:21] <Cheri703> he's a really nice guy...he just makes inappropriate comments
[03:21] <SkrappJaw> Ya.
[03:21] <Cheri703> anyway
[03:21] <Cheri703> SkrappJaw: did you mention to your gf about ubuntu-women?
[03:21] <SkrappJaw> ok.
[03:21] <SkrappJaw> No. not yet.
[03:21] <SkrappJaw> I got caught up in tearing apart my car and andy's car.
[03:22] <Cheri703> ah, no worries :)
[03:22] <SkrappJaw> I will though.
[03:22] <SkrappJaw> is it an IRC room?
[03:22] <Cheri703> this: http://ubuntu-women.org/
[03:22] <Cheri703> and an irc room, yes
[03:22] <SkrappJaw> oh cool.
[03:23] <canthus13> Cheri703: My wife checked into them for a little while... they kinda shunned her, though.  she got the feeling that she just wasn't technical enough for their tastes.
[03:23] <Cheri703> weird, when was that?
[03:23] <canthus13> about 2 years ago.
[03:23] <Cheri703> there are some fairly non-technical folks in there
[03:23] <Cheri703> have her give it another shot
[03:23] <canthus13> Or maybe it was Linux-chix.
[03:23] <canthus13> or both. don't remember now.
[03:23] <Cheri703> I have heard that about linux-chix
[03:24] <Cheri703> ubuntu-women has a large range of folks
[03:24] <Cheri703> (not just women too)
[03:24] <canthus13> I imagine she and elky would be at odds a lot, though.
[03:24] <Cheri703> oh?
[03:24] <SkrappJaw> hey. I gotta jump out for a few minutes. riding andy back to lexington.
[03:24] <Cheri703> have fun :) and thank him again for me!!
[03:24] <canthus13> Cheri703: elky tends to be rather narrow-minded at times.
[03:24] <SkrappJaw> will do
[03:25] <canthus13> Cheri703: And since I hang out in ##club-ubuntu, elky hates me by default... so guilt by association. :)
[03:25] <Cheri703> perhaps, she (generally) doesn't go pontificating in u-w
[03:25]  * SkrappJaw is away.
[03:25] <SkrappJaw> hey i remembered /me
[03:25] <SkrappJaw> aweel
[03:25] <SkrappJaw> *T
[03:26] <Cheri703> :)
[03:26]  * SkrappJaw has a spelling problem
[03:26] <SkrappJaw> peace
[03:26] <canthus13> Not that I really blame her for not liking a few people that hang in ##c-u... there are a couple that really get off on antagonizing her. :P
[03:26] <Cheri703> your wife is more than welcome to disavow any knowledge of you ;)
[03:26] <canthus13> but she's pretty much written off anyone who hangs out there.
[03:26] <canthus13> Heh.
[03:33] <SkrappJaw> Woot for blackberry
[03:35] <Skrapp_Jaw> Anyone here?
[03:36]  * Cheri703 is here
[03:36] <Skrapp_Jaw> sweet.
[04:31] <Cheri703> o.O http://thedailywh.at/2011/03/25/lights-out-37
[04:31] <Cheri703> canthus13: how is toledo?
[04:31] <SkrappJaw> im back
[04:31] <Cheri703> wb :)
[04:31] <Cheri703> you missed my ridiculous link: http://thedailywh.at/2011/03/25/lights-out-37
[04:31] <Cheri703> :)
[04:32] <SkrappJaw> Andy live in the boonies.
[04:32] <SkrappJaw> s*
[04:32] <Cheri703> heh
[04:33] <SkrappJaw> O.o oh n0z3.
[04:33] <SkrappJaw> buffer....buffer...buffer.
[04:34] <SkrappJaw> it would be much more entertaining if the called it waxing. Then I could make Mr. Miagi jokes.
[04:36] <Cheri703> :)
[04:39] <SkrappJaw> Li3k. 0Mg.!!  ! <3 trees and and. and.... o.o *strangle*
[04:39] <Cheri703> heh, yeah
[04:39] <Cheri703> you can see the guy behind her trying not to laugh at the end
[04:39] <SkrappJaw> ya.
[04:40] <SkrappJaw> I love that website too.
[04:40] <Cheri703> I liked the "1% other stuff, but I don't know what it is, and at least 6% energy"
[04:40] <SkrappJaw> ya... Jars of air?
[04:40] <SkrappJaw> she lost me at plants.
[04:41] <SkrappJaw> but, my pal Jerm will be in the iRC as soon as I walk him through it. My 3rd convert to Ubuntu.
[04:42] <Cheri703> yeah, I like that she thinks she could get $10,000 for a jar of air...and that she could get $500,000 in VC
[04:42] <Cheri703> cool :)
[04:42] <SkrappJaw> rofl.
[04:43] <SkrappJaw> I may even have him set up his SSH and show him that way. lol.
[04:43] <Cheri703> one thing to note: if you do the ssh -X, it does NOT show it on their screen too
[04:44] <Cheri703> all visual parts are done on the remote terminal
[04:44] <Cheri703> so if I run something via my server, someone could be sitting there using it for other things, and it won't disturb them
[04:44] <Cheri703> one thing to use though: www.teamviewer.com
[04:44] <SkrappJaw> Ahh. how would i have it control both? could i just SSH the entire -X server?
[04:44] <Cheri703> it's AWESOME
[04:44] <Cheri703> I don't think so
[04:44] <Cheri703> I don't think you can make it display in both spots
[04:44] <Cheri703> (I could be wrong)
[04:45] <SkrappJaw> ahh.
[04:45] <SkrappJaw> well i know you can share mouse and keyboard over SSH.
[04:45] <Cheri703> hm...maybe?
[04:45] <Cheri703> I've not done that
[04:45] <Cheri703> I could be totally wrong
[04:46] <SkrappJaw> Ya. I was just surfing generic Linux searches on tips and tricks. A lot was over my head but i did see that in one. for wen you have 2 people working on the same pc
[04:46] <Cheri703> that's cool
[04:47] <SkrappJaw> instead of sharing one keyboard and mouse. But they didnt have independent mouse and keyboard
[04:48] <SkrappJaw> but that was mouse and keys only. no x remote.
[04:49] <SkrappJaw> I also saw it while looking up things on how people run their home media centers. there was SSH involved in some of those setups.
[04:49] <Cheri703> I use synergy
[04:49] <Cheri703> it's amazing
[04:49] <Cheri703> I can have my mouse/keyboard of my netbook controll my htpc
[04:49] <Cheri703> *control
[04:51] <SkrappJaw> cool. http://ubuntulandforever.blogspot.com/2010/11/x2x-allows-keyboard-and-mouse-on-one-x.html here's the x2x mouse keyboard server. runs on SSH also
[04:53] <Cheri703> nice
[04:59] <SkrappJaw> hmm.. so what all can i use ssh for?
[04:59] <Cheri703> bunch o crap
[04:59] <Cheri703> I've used it if one computer froze up, I ssh'd and used a killall to stop the offending program
[05:00] <SkrappJaw> sweet.
[05:01] <SkrappJaw> Thats good to know.
[05:01] <SkrappJaw> is there a way to execute the root terninal in ubuntu through a normal terminal? Since su is disabled.
[05:02] <Cheri703> sudo
[05:02] <Cheri703> sudo su
[05:02] <SkrappJaw> sudo su?
[05:03] <Cheri703> yup
[05:03] <SkrappJaw> cool. now i dont have to pile through menus for root.
[05:03] <Cheri703> yep
[05:03] <Cheri703> ooo, one handy thing: sudo nautilus (or gksudo)
[05:03] <Cheri703> you get a file manager window with root privileges
[05:03] <Cheri703> makes life easier if needing to change permissions or move files without having to type it all out
[05:03] <SkrappJaw> ya. i figured that out setting up my ps3 media server.
[05:04] <Cheri703> :)
[05:04] <SkrappJaw> also in compiling qjoypad
[05:06] <SkrappJaw> I had to use it to configure the controller preset layouts. They are in a "." file directory.
[05:07] <Cheri703> that's cool
[05:10] <SkrappJaw> Hows the car? did you guys get that worked out?
[05:12] <Cheri703> yeah, they got it home and are getting the tires taken care of :)
[05:14] <SkrappJaw> Cool. Andy's car and mine are on blocks till tomorrow. We thought we had all the bits to fixem but it turned out to be more than that once we tore'm apart.
[05:15] <Cheri703> that stinks
[05:15] <Cheri703> I hate it when that happens
[05:17] <SkrappJaw> thats the nature of a car though.
[05:18] <Cheri703> yeah
[05:18] <Cheri703> some days I miss having one, but other days I'm really ok with it
[05:23] <SkrappJaw> oops.
[05:40] <SkrappTest_SSH_D> Xchat remote ssh from Debian vbox guest on ubuntu 10.04 host.
[05:40] <SkrappJaw> woot.
[05:40] <Cheri703> nice
[05:41] <SkrappTest_SSH_D> ssh comes with debian out the box apparently. Just a tweak of the config file and it's golden.
[05:46] <SkrappJaw> Cheri: So i just had a connection refused on SSH. I can connect from Deb-guest to Ubuntu but not the other way.
[05:47] <Cheri703> do you not have the ssh server set up on the other?
[05:47] <SkrappJaw> ya. i do. i set it up the same on debian as on ubuntu.
[05:48] <SkrappJaw> could my debian be rejecting it because of a firewall?
[05:48] <SkrappJaw> ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.122 port 22: Connection refused
[05:49] <Cheri703> possible?
[05:49] <Cheri703> oh
[05:49] <Cheri703> wait
[05:49] <Cheri703> is the user name the same on both?
[05:49] <SkrappJaw> yes.
[05:50] <Cheri703> uhm...I'm not sure :/
[05:51] <Cheri703> I'm still limited in my use/understanding of the ins and outs of ssh
[05:51] <SkrappJaw> ok. I'll retrace and search about.
[05:57] <SkrappJaw> wow it
[05:57] <SkrappJaw> it's late. I'm crashing. See ya'll later!
[05:58]  * SkrappJaw is catchin some Zzzz....
[05:58] <Cheri703> night
[14:05] <canthus13> Haha... Another Ohio ubuntu user.
[14:06]  * canthus13 just spoke to on the phone... Gave him the loco website address.
[14:47] <paultag> canthus13: woo!
[14:50] <canthus13> Dude was high on vicodin, kept cracking up every time I said 'ifup'
[14:50] <paultag> canthus13: hahaha
[14:53] <canthus13> kept getting 'ignoring unknown interface'... :/  He decided to reinstall.
[15:18] <canthus13> Cheri703: SkrappJaw prolly didn't have ssh-server installed.
[15:19] <Cheri703> yeah
[15:23] <canthus13> If it had been the wrong username, it still would have asked him for a password instead of refusing the connection.
[15:24] <Cheri703> true
[15:24] <Cheri703> he said it was installed, so I dunno
[15:36] <canthus13> He prolly has -client installed.
[15:36] <canthus13> either that, or he didn't start the daemon.
[15:36] <canthus13> although, it should autostart on install.
[15:38] <canthus13> Huh. Apparently Debian has a package that installs both now.
[15:40] <Cheri703> yeah, I have no idea
[15:46] <canthus13> Blah. Overtime is starting to get old....
[15:46] <Cheri703> :/
[15:46] <Cheri703> so quit your job! :D
[15:46] <canthus13> Hah.
[15:52] <Cheri703> still no telecommuting jobs open? :)
[15:52] <canthus13> Nope. they don't like telecommuting here.
[15:53] <Cheri703> eh, was worth asking :)
[15:54] <canthus13> Heh. :)
[15:54] <canthus13> I wish.
[15:55] <Cheri703> there is apparently drama at the church I'm trying to work with
[15:55] <Cheri703> I have no doubts I'll (eventually) finish and get paid, because the one woman thinks I'm amazing, but it's been sort of a cluster-f from the beginning on their side...
[15:55] <canthus13> Heh. Church drama. :)
[15:56] <Cheri703> well, manipulative guy causing drama...one guy seems to be at the root of most of it
[23:40] <dmcglone> Hi everyone!
[23:50] <paultag> heyya dmcglone :)
[23:57] <dmcglone> How ya doing paultag
[23:57] <dmcglone> I've had one stupid crazy month