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arbirbazhang: yes ppc00:00
Jordan_Uarbir: Debian is not ubuntu. Try #debian here or on OFTC (there may also be a PPC specficic Debian channel).00:00
bazhangarbir, debian ppc?00:00
arandarbir: #debian, here or on irc.oftc.net might be more appropriate.00:00
bazhangterry, he's apparently using debian00:00
terryarbir: Then just download the gz file and uncompress it and place it in .mozilla/firefox/plugins/00:01
_antantterry: sudo apt-get install makeinfo build-essentials msgfmt   just gets me package not found for all three00:01
arbirterry: alright….. let me try.. just that those binaries might be compiled for intel arch.00:01
bazhang_antant, its build-essential no S00:01
arbiri am asking here, cause, not much response in #debian. sorry if i broke any rules..00:02
bazhangarbir, just be patient in #debian , thanks00:02
terryarbir: ~/.mozilla/plugins/00:02
_antantcheers bazhang00:02
dtcrshrvery annoying... connection keeps up for 1, 2 minutes00:02
billy_terry: with wubi, there is a folder in the very top of the file browser (would be c:/ in windows, just / in linux) is a folder called "root" which is the c drive in windows. my sister is a artist so i am trying to put a link onto the desktop that takes her to her documents folder in windows.00:03
dtcrshrcant update at all00:03
arbirterry: ok i am trying00:03
dtcrshris there something about wpa_supplicant in 10.10?00:03
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terryarbir: Well, I don't  know wheather it will work or not but can't hurt to try.  I suppose it will.00:04
PolahWhat are the advantages/disadvantages over Debian 6 and Ubuntu 11.04 for server purposes?00:04
terry*whether00:05
dtcrshrPolah, if you get debian stable, the differences are quite interesting00:06
dtcrshrtake a look at the debian projet documentation00:06
snake_is there a channel specifically for video editing and compositing.00:06
Polahdtcrshr, could you link me or point me in the right direction?00:07
terrysnake_: What application are you using?00:07
snake_I'm trying to find an alternative to apple shake 4 :(00:07
snake_terry, a FREE alternative00:07
dtcrshrPolah, http://www.debian.org/doc/00:08
Stereocaulonsnake_, try kdenlive00:08
Polahdtcrshr, thanks00:08
terrysnake_: Cinelerra is probably what you want.  See:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/top5-linux-video-editing-system-software/00:09
edersomebody know the channel name of backtrav 4 ?00:09
edersomebody know the channel name of backtrack 4 ?00:09
snake_Stereocaulon, problem: it's just like sonyvegas, I HATE sony begas unfortunatly.00:09
snake_terry, thanks. I will try it.00:09
Stereocaulonsnake_, in that case Cinelerra is probably what you want, but it's a b*tch to set up :-P00:10
Stereocaulonsnake_, try ubuntu-studio00:10
snake_Stereocaulon, although I used mac for editing for a long time, I am REALLY good at using linux.00:11
YankDownUnderOpenshot Video Editor....00:11
Stereocaulonsnake_, https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa00:13
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snake_Stereocaulon, dude, I just did all of that, from that exact page lol.00:14
* dtcrshr found a bug - maybe ubuntu inheredited it - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=57471400:14
ubottuDebian bug 574714 in wpasupplicant "wpasupplicant: WPA-Supplicant does not connect with WPA2 - Enterprise - Network" [Normal,Open]00:14
snake_Stereocaulon, thanks though!00:15
Stereocaulonsnake_, np ;-)00:15
trist4ndoes anyone have any suggestions to making a thinkpad touchpad a little more workable in ubuntu?00:16
trist4nit uses a synaptics driver for multitouch on windows, but its pretty choppy and inprecise on linux00:17
et-0nlinehey when i start my ubuntu i get error 15 press any key to continue then nothing happens now iam on another computer00:17
iqpiet-0nline: perhaps grub problem00:18
soreauCan someone on maverick please upload their /usr/sbin/update-info-dir file to speedyshare.com for me? I'm in a bit of a tight spot00:18
et-0nlineyes what to do iqpi00:19
terry!grub2 | et-0nline00:19
ubottuet-0nline: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub200:19
iqpiet-0nline: try to reinstall the grub, enter with a livecd00:19
iqpithen mount the root partition00:20
iqpithen chroot the folder where you have mounted the filesystem00:20
iqpiand just type00:20
iqpigrub install00:20
iqpithen unmount the partiton00:21
iqpiand reboot00:21
iqpiwell, better exit the chroot00:21
iqpibefore, and then unmount. Finally reboot and you will have your system00:21
dextro_i installed "remote desktop" and went into the settings and it says its bound to localhost and wont let me change the address00:22
dextro_what the heck is the point of a remote desktop app that only listens on localhost?!00:22
terryiqpi: Ctrl-d will exit chroot00:22
Gambihello00:22
terryet-0nline: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub200:23
iqpithanks for the extra info terry, i missed to say it =)00:23
Gambihello00:23
Gambican someone read what I write?00:23
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Gambi:@00:23
terryGambi: Yes, we see youu00:23
iqpiGambi: what have you written?00:23
Gambi`I have one question about Ubuntu00:23
GambiI am new to it00:23
Gambican I please ask it?00:23
terryGambi: Yes00:23
_antantwhat package do I need to get for msgfmt?00:24
iqpiGambi: this is irc just shoot your question00:24
GambiI install nvidia drivers for ubuntu via sudo but still some small pictures seem sketchy00:24
terry_antant: To create filesystem?00:24
_antantyeah00:24
terry_antant: see man mkfs00:24
iqpiGambi: how have you installed the driver?00:24
Gambiapt-cache search nvidia00:25
Gambiand then sudo apt-get install nvdiai*00:25
iqpiGambi: try to install the driver without X.00:25
terryGambi: Do you see the nvidia settings thing?00:25
dtcrshrcan somebody help me with wpa_supplicant in ubuntu 10.10? i can connect to my wpa2-enterprise, but when i try to transfer data ig gets dropped00:26
Gambiyes I have it in System admin settings00:26
soreauCan someone help me fix my package manager? http://pastebin.com/iJVKAgTB I'm not sure why it can't find update-info-dir even though it exists00:26
Gambinvidia x server settings00:26
terryGambi: You can try and fiddle with settings00:26
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Gambiit says to able to fiddle it I have to run it as root00:27
Gambii tupe in sudo nvidia-xconfig00:27
Gambiand I still get the same thing00:27
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MndrllHi!00:27
Mndrllhey i have a little question00:27
Logan_!ask | Mndrll00:28
ubottuMndrll: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)00:28
Rob235this is a ridiculous question but i have a method that has an array parameter which is being passed successfully, how do i assign an object property to that array, its more than just self.array = passedArray; right?00:28
_antantterry: ok, looked at man mkfs. Didn't shed any light00:28
Rob235because that just crashes my app00:28
javierm00:28
Logan_Rob235: which programming language is that?00:28
Rob235array is a property00:28
terry_antant: What is it you are trying to do?00:29
PolahHow much does the Ubuntu command line differ from Debian? Can I still use sudo and standard commands like ifconfig and APT and so on?00:29
Gambidamn00:29
Viking667just a quick question - I note that when I installed midnight commander, the view binary has been symlinked to the midnight Commander editor... what's the "official" way of running dpkg to re-set the editor to something more sane like vim?00:29
GambiI feel like noob00:29
Rob235so dot notation is fine00:29
Mndrllim kinda new to ubuntu and just install ubuntu 64 on my desktop00:29
_antantterry; build the openelec source00:29
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Mndrllnow, i have 2 hard drives00:29
Mndrllone of 160gb, and t6he other of 500 gb i am about to format the 500gb one..00:30
iqpiPolah: yes, the commands are the same, but sudo will not enabled by default, so you will need two accounts, the root one, and you will need to create a new user account00:30
Viking667Polah: pretty much, though there are some niceties you have to keep an eye out for00:30
Mndrll but i have different options00:30
Rob235im just confused as to when i have instance object variables do i need to allocate it somewhere or does it get allocated by being in the header00:30
Mndrllwhich is the difference between the CUID Partition Table and the Master Boot Record???00:30
Rob235actually i dont want to allocate it so nevermind00:30
Rob235im confusing myself00:31
coz_ hey all00:31
Rob235i just want it to point to the existing array00:31
Rob235but it crashes my app00:31
Mndrll*GUID00:31
terry_antant: Not familiar with openelec.  But I assume you have downloaded a tarball and are wanting to compile from source?00:31
Mndrlli mean it acctually says that both have some limitations00:32
Mndrllbut which one is the best??00:32
_antantyeah, it's a custom kernel with xbmc as a front end00:32
MndrllLinux and the Swap partitions are on the other HD00:32
Gambiare you peaople programmers?00:33
terryGambi: We are all sorts of people, (some are and some are not).00:33
Gambiterry: so there is no one that can help me with my sketchy display?00:34
iqpiterry: i am not people i am terminal - ator00:34
_antantterry: I'm missing msgfmt and /usr/include/ncurses.h   (the latter I'm guessing I just download and put in there)00:34
terry:+|00:34
_antantyou ok there, terry?00:35
terryMndrll: Not sure what your question is.  What exactly are you trying to do?  What is your end goal.00:35
iqpiGambi: try to reintall the driver without Xorg enabled.00:36
rweanyone with sis hardware running ubuntu?00:36
ibrahimhi , every time i do update the sound vanish < i need help .........00:36
roothii .-00:36
Mndrllto format my second hard drive that has ntfs partitions00:36
roothiiiii ////////////00:37
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iqpiGambi: press ctrl + alt + F1 then you will be in a pure terminal enviroment00:37
_antantterry: ok, I've got ncurses. Just missing msgfmt now00:37
iqpiGambi: then type killall gdm00:37
Mndrllterry, i want to format my second hard drive, it has multiple partitions but they are NTFS, EXT and one swap..00:37
iqpiGambi: and then reinstall the driver via sudo apt-get install nvidia-bla-bla00:37
Mndrllterry, but just wnat to have 2 partitions ext400:38
Dr_Willisiqpi:  i just got here..  but that will actually restart gdm.. if you want it to stop. usd 'sudo service gdm stop' (or restart) nicer then killing it.00:38
Guest4119how i can hack with back tack00:38
terryMndrll: Well, if you are not using those other partitions, just blow them away and put what you want on it.00:38
Dr_WillisGuest4119:  'backtrack' has its own support channels and homepage.. start by readign them.00:38
iqpiGambi: once you have installed it, then type sudo gdm00:38
terryMndrll: Are you using gparted?00:39
iqpiDr_Willis: yes, your way is more .... "diplomatic"00:39
Mndrllno im using the DISK UTILITY from Ubuntu 10.1000:39
Mndrllon Gnome00:39
Mndrllterry, no im using the DISK UTILITY tool of Gnome on ubuntu 10.1000:40
PolahMndrll, get Gparted00:40
terryMndrll: Ok, well as long as you are not using those partitions, go on with it.  If that swap partion is in use by your current system you might want to keep it on there some place... but you probably already have a swap partition on the other drive, right?00:40
Gambihey terry00:40
terryGambi: Yes..00:41
Gambiis it true that with Wireshark we can read other people's emails if they are unencrypted?00:41
ibrahimhi , every time i do update the sound vanish < i need help .........00:41
Mndrllterry, yes i already have another swap partition00:41
Gambireply :00:41
terryMndrll: You should be good to go then.00:41
Gambi:D00:41
scott__I was looking for a distro to install alongside ubuntu, just to try.  I'm kind of a n00b.  Does anybody have any suggestions?00:42
Rob235http://pastebin.com/xjdapH0s00:42
Mndrllterry, i just want to format the entire second hard drive00:42
Dr_Willisscott__:  use virtualbox.. and start trying them all.. in virtualbox...00:42
iqpiGambi: to read a complete email you will need to catch many packages and then join them to have some readable information xDD, if you want to read others mails, steal their envelopes from their mail box xD00:42
terryGambi: wireshark is a network traffic analyzer00:42
Rob235what is wrong with line 3100:42
Dr_Willisscott__:  but you may gain more benifit by just reading up on various linux fundamentals/commands/features.00:42
Gambiyeah00:42
GambiI get that00:42
Mndrllterry,  yes but on the disk utility options, on the Formatting options there is the MASTER BOOT RECORDER, and the GUID prtition table00:42
Gambibut on a blog I read that you can read other's emails00:43
Gambiif they are unencrypted00:43
Mndrllterry, which one should i use...??00:43
Dr_WillisGambi:   i doubt if its that simple.. what if in ssh'd to a remote box reading my emails....00:43
Dr_WillisGambi:  with most wireless stuff these days theres almost always going to be some encryption also.00:43
Dr_WillisGambi:  set up a home lan, and try it.00:44
iqpiGambi: thats not legal. Anyway, wireshark is not an easy tool, and you will need to catch many data packages, and then merge the correct ones... it is possible but its not easy.00:44
terryMndrll: GUID is just a standard for the layout of the partition table on a physical hard disk.00:44
Rob235http://pastebin.com/xjdapH0s what is wrong with line 31, the count works fine so i know the array is being passed correctly but the array assignment doesnt work00:44
scott__thanks Dr_Willis...I've been reading about several distros, and I've even tried openSuse.  Is Knoppix too advanced for a newcomer?  Or does it (and other distros) just require some tinkering to learn?00:44
soreauGuys, can someone please help me fix my package manager? I get the message '/var/lib/dpkg/info/install-info.postinst: 36: update-info-dir: not found' when trying to do anything with apt-get even though 1) /usr/sbin/update-info-dir exists 2) It's executable 3) echo "PATH=$PATH" in /var/lib/dpkg/info/install-info.postinst shows /usr/sbin in the list. So what else could possibly be going wrong?00:44
Rob235oh shit00:44
Rob235sorry wrong room00:44
Rob235my bad00:44
Rob235:P00:44
FloodBot3Rob235: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:44
abstraktscott__, I would say Ubuntu is really the best distro for a newcomer00:44
Dr_Willisscott__:  i dont see much reason for 'beginners' to try other disrots.. stick with Ubuntu, and learn  the 'basics'   the fundamentals will apply to any disrto.ot j00:45
GambiWillis I wish I had the skills to try it00:45
scott__agreed abstrakt, I figured I should try to stretch myself by trying harder distros.  I didn't know if there was an "intermediate" distro00:45
Gambi:D00:45
Mndrllterry,  so the Master boot recorder should be fine?00:45
abstraktscott__, uhh, yeah I wouldn't bother, i would just use ubuntu00:45
abstraktscott__, even thinking about the idea of a "harder distro" is really missing the point almost entirely00:45
Dr_Willisscott__:  'learning' requires effort. :)  pick somthin to learn about.. and  check out delicious.com links on the topic. for example 'sed one liners' :) an interesting little topic to spend an hr reading about.00:46
critical_maxscott__, you have as much power as you want with ubuntu. it just has a low barrier to entry.00:46
iqpiscott__: try arch linux with the wiki for beginers .... you will learn a lot and you will have the best linux distro.00:46
abstraktscott__, lots of newbies complain that FreeBSD is "hard" but then again most of them never take the time to read the amazingly well written and detailed FreeBSD handbook00:46
Dr_WillisI tried arch.. and dumped it.. dident benifit from its... 'design goals' :)00:46
abstraktscott__, ignore iqpi00:46
iqpiabstrakt: lol00:47
abstraktthe idea that LFS will make you "leet" is rediculous00:47
ibrahimhi , every time i do update the sound vanish < i need help .........00:47
Dr_Willisscott__:  learning the 'gui' and where the menus and stuff are at. is not really learning 'linux' its learning the specific desktop.00:47
abstraktjust because you can follow step by step instructions doesn't mean anything00:47
terryMndrll: I just use fdisk for what you are doing.  Since this drive is not in use by your current system, (or any other for that matter, you can do what you like with it).  I don't know much about the options you are seeing in the particular partitioning utility you are using, but yes MBR is find.  (Not sure what options it is giving you, or why there are options in the first place, because you have to write the new partition table to the MBR of the drive for the00:47
abstraktit tells you absolutely nothing about what those tools are and why they are put together they way they are put together, you're just blindly following instructions00:47
scott__even the commands vary between distros, right?00:47
abstraktscott__, actually no, not really00:47
scott__oh ok00:47
Dr_Willisscott__:   totally untrue.00:48
Dr_Willisscott__:  i would say 99% of them are identical.00:48
abstraktscott__, you're wasting your time, honestly, trust me... do something more productive like learn to program00:48
Dr_Willisscott__:  spend time learning bash... thats always woth it..00:48
abstraktscott__, there are indeed minor variations in how different distros organize things but overall linux is linux00:48
scott__how am I wasting my time? I haven't even done anything yet00:48
abstraktscott__, you're wasting your time even thinking about this stuff :)00:48
JTallisSweet a large channel.00:48
abstraktscott__, I second Dr_Willis' suggestion to learn bash, go /join #bash ... it will do you a world of good00:48
Dr_Willisscott__:  You need to dive into some topic and start learning.. you dont know enough to even 'base' what else you should be learning on.00:49
abstraktscott__, because at the end of the day, really, being an awesome sysadmin mainly comes down to automation, and on linux that mainly comes down to knowing how to write bash scripts00:49
JTallisI have a small problem installing Ubuntu 10.10 64bit, and even problems with the demo. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1714775 My post is here, I hope I've explained myself detailed enough.00:49
abstraktscott__, everything else is software specific, not distro specific, learn about the specific software that you need, like apache or wahtever00:49
Dr_Willisscott__:  top 10 things to learn to up your Linux-fu,. Bash, ssh, regular expressions, vi,   and.. Hmm...00:49
JTallisI ran the chkdsk /r though, it goes through C... which is like.. a 900GB Drive, it's taking forever on stage 5.00:49
Mndrllterry, awesome thanks a lot!00:50
ActionParsnipJTallis: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded00:50
Mndrllterry, it seems to work fine! ;)00:50
terryMndrll: NP00:50
terryMndrll: Very well.00:50
Dr_WillisJTallis:  you are doing an install inside windows? or a normal booted-the-cd- and installed type install?00:50
abstraktscott__, if you *really* wanna be masochistic, then it might not be a bad idea to learn the primary differences between debian and red hat00:50
critical_maxJTallis, it almost looks like you burned the ISO to your partition. You need to burn it to a CD then boot from it to install to the partition.00:50
abstraktscott__, but there's no real such thing as a "harder distro"00:51
padeekinsscott http://bash-fu.com/ http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/browse GET YOUR FU ON HOMMIE!!00:51
ibrahimhi , every time i do update the sound vanish < i need help .........00:51
joker_Im having trouble getting my ait all in wonder card to work.00:51
JTallisNo I didn't ActionParsnip, I know of MD5 hashing in PHP/SQL etc. Though I know nothin about MD5Sums.00:51
joker_I'm on ubuntu 10.1000:51
ActionParsnip!md5 | JTallis00:51
ubottuJTallis: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows00:51
scott__I have been reading about how to write c++00:51
Dr_Willisscott__:  a read of the 'linux from scratch' manual/guide can teach some things also.00:51
abstraktscott__, most distros these days are based on either debian or red hat... Ubuntu being based on debian, Fedora and CentOS being based on red hat00:51
abstraktscott__, good, keep reading :)00:51
ActionParsnipjoker_: if you run: sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a    can you pastebin the output00:51
abstraktDr_Willis, I absolutely and fully disagree about LFS00:51
abstraktas I already stated00:51
Dr_Willisscott__:  i dont even do C programming. :) been using linxu for years.00:51
scott__I would like to have more control over my box, so I will read over what you suggested.00:52
scott__so mainly bash scripting?00:52
JTallisDr_Willis, I'm trying to go for a Dual OS. So I want to install it in L:\ whilst Windows is in C:\, so not INSIDE Windows.00:52
nor15dinhii00:52
Dr_WillisYou can learn some things from the LFS docs. :)  if nothing else. you may learn what some of these odly named services/programs actually do.00:52
ibrahimhi , every time i do update the sound vanish < i need help .........00:52
Dr_WillisJTallis:  then its not in L: since linux dosent use drive leetters that way.00:52
JTallisCritical_max, I burned it to a blank DVD disk, I can boot it off of that but just can't install or run the demo.00:52
Dr_WillisJTallis:  You take the iso, check its md5 to veryify it.. burn it to cd, or usbflash, and booted it?00:53
terryscott__: Before you start imagining what the differences are between the various distros, do some research to find out what they are specifically.00:53
JTallisI just burned it to a dvd disk, I'm goin to try the md5 now.00:53
abstraktDr_Willis, scott__, and you will have spent an inordinate and disproportionate (to your ROI) amount of time in doing so :)00:53
Dr_WillisJTallis:  You can resize your windows partuions from inside windows to leave part of the hard disk unallocated. and let linux install to that.00:53
nor15dinhow  i can hacke M00:53
critical_maxJTallis, burn it to a CD if the md5 checks out. Sorry about the coaster.00:53
Dr_WillisJTallis:  you burnt a cd iso file to a dvd disk? sometimes that wont work.00:53
joker_ActionParsnip:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/585690/     Thanks for the help00:54
critical_maxDr_Willis, agreed.00:54
abstraktscott__, stick with learning C++ and add bash to your list of things to learn, also learn the gnu build system like using Makefiles00:54
padeekinsI switched from mac to Ubuntu  back when gutsy got released and never turned back... Is the RH/Fedora community similar to the Deb/Ubuntu?00:54
nor15dinhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh00:54
scott__ok I will00:54
nor15dinhihihihihi00:54
JTallisI'm not sure if it's a cd iso, DVD's are all I have so I just used one of them.00:54
Dr_Willispadeekins:  redhat is a little weirder in ways last i checked/tried the RH/variants.. :)00:54
nor15dini am crazy /////////////////////////////////////00:55
Dr_Willispadeekins:  thats been 5+ yrs ago.00:55
JTallisRight, okay, yeah I was followin an tutorial, and it left it unallocated but I was not sure at all why.00:55
ibrahimhi , every time i do update the sound vanish < i need help .........00:55
scott__I have a GUI question about ubuntu, also: is ubuntu going to keep classic desktop  past 11.04? Or are we going to strictly Unity?00:55
terrypadeekins: Similar?  In what way..?  If you are asking if you are in the right place?  The answer is Yes.  You will have an easier go of it here.00:55
Dr_WillisJTallis:  the installer will use that space and partion it as needed.00:55
ActionParsnipjoker_: blacklist the agpgart-amd64 and it should be ok00:55
nor15dini am crazy /////////////////////////////////////00:55
nor15dini am crazy /////////////////////////////////////00:55
nor15dini am crazy /////////////////////////////////////00:55
FloodBot3nor15din: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:55
critical_maxJTallis, definitely burn to a CD.00:55
Dr_Willisscott__:  you can always isntall differnt desktops00:55
joker_ActionParsnip: I'm not sure how to do that00:56
mokotoois there some way to launch an application from command line so that I can discern it among similarly named processes in ps?00:56
ActionParsnipscott__: both will be available in natty but unity will be default, natty is discussed and supported in #ubuntu+100:56
padeekinsDo they use the same kernel as Debian? maybe that's a newb question?00:56
rweim in desperate need of help with sis drivers on ubunto00:56
rweu00:56
et-0nlinehey when i start my ubuntu i get error 15 press any key to continue then nothing happens now iam on another computer00:56
abstraktscott__, yeah there's a crap load of different GUIs, GNOME and KDE to name but two amongst many others such as WindowMaker, XFCE, FVWM and fluxbox00:56
rweanyone got experience00:56
rwe?00:56
Dr_Willisrwe:  good luck with that. SIS really has poor linux support.00:56
JTallisright okay, when this chkdsk finishes, I'll remove the partition. I'll see if I have a blank CD around. I did have some I believe but this was a few years back. Thanks.00:57
rweyeah ive noticed00:57
coz_rwe,  ooo sis drivers do not have 3d accelerated drivers I dont t hink00:57
rwei dont need 3d00:57
abstraktscott__, again, none of this changes on any of the other distros00:57
Dr_Willisrwe:  thats my 'experience' from hanging in this channel.. every time SIS is mentioned.. its rarely good.00:57
rwei just want to be able to connect my tv00:57
abstraktbtw, wtf is Unity anyway? isn't it just GNOME?00:57
abstraktdid ubuntu like, fork GNOME or something?00:57
Dr_Willisrwe:  check the forums for your exact chipset. you m ay get lucky00:57
critical_max!unity00:57
ubottuUnity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity00:57
abstraktor did they add on top of GNOME? or what00:57
coz_rwe,  I had ,, a while back.. a deb package for sis cards,, I dont think I still have it.. have you googled for it?00:57
ActionParsnipjoker_: echo "blacklist agpart-amd64" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist.conf00:57
ActionParsnipjoker_: reboot to test00:57
Dr_Willisabstrakt:  its  the windowmanager basically/launcher.00:57
rwei have googled for 2 days00:57
Dr_Willisabstrakt:  its not gnome..00:57
rwecoz_00:58
ActionParsnipabstrakt: it is based on GTK though ;)00:58
abstraktbut if it's a shell for gnome, then gnome is underneath, so in essence, unity is in fact gnome?00:58
quantabstrakt, actually it is Gnome00:58
rwegod damnit i really liked ubuntu, looks like i have to use that god damn w7 then00:58
quantabstrakt, correct00:58
coz_rwe,  ah let me try hold on00:58
JTallisIs there any safe way to cancel a chkdsk scan on Windows or do I have to wait for it to finish.00:58
abstraktquant, ok that's what I thought00:58
rwethanks alot00:58
Dr_Willisrwe:  ive learned to avoide sis. :)00:58
coz_rwe,   give me the readout  of   lspci | grep -i vga00:58
Dr_WillisJTallis:  ask in #windows00:59
iqpiunity is a sh**** that canonical have done to don't help with the gnome project00:59
rwewait i have to run over to the laptop00:59
et-0nlinehey when i start my ubuntu i get error 15 press any key to continue then nothing happens now iam on another computer00:59
rwewhats the command for pastebin00:59
ActionParsnipiqpi: then use traditional desktop00:59
rwe | pastebinit or smth00:59
swimanybody know how to fix folder icons that won't change???00:59
Dr_Willis!pastebinit00:59
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com00:59
rwebrb then00:59
Dr_Willisswim:  hit f5 to refresh perhaps?00:59
iqpiActionParsnip: i use wmfs don't like gnome neither kde00:59
coz_rwe,  there is a sis driver in .deb here   http://ncc-1701a.homelinux.net/~linux-sis/index.php?page=Downloads   I have no idea how good it may be  or even if it can be installed00:59
scott__IMHO, unity isn't very attractive, but I can see why Canonical's going in that direction (maximizing vertical space)00:59
JTallisThank you Dr_Willis00:59
swimDr_Willis thanks, but no luck..  I've tried all sort of things..01:00
Dr_WillisIm so used to my ANdroid Phone now. a 'vertical side panel' seems weird..01:00
rwethanks coz_01:00
rwei get this red nuance01:00
rweon my tv01:00
rweand the res is buggy01:00
padeekinsI think Unity looks ultra usable... never played with it though01:00
stbainSwitched from iPhone to Motorola Atrix (Android phone)... love it.01:00
terryDr_Willis: Android phones are spoiling us!01:01
rweis that what you used coz_01:01
coz_rwe,  let me know if that driver works,, as I recal you will have to set resolution once the driver is installed a nd you reboot under system/preferences/monitors01:01
_antantAnyone: trying to build a custom kernel and it can't download http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/linux-2.6.38-rc7.tar.bz201:01
ActionParsnipiqpi: do you mean wbfs?01:02
terrystbain: Yea android is awesome.01:02
rwewhich one is it coz_?01:02
_antantAnything I can do?01:02
coz_rwe,  I believe the one at the top page is the only .deb01:02
coz_rwe,  oh!01:02
coz_rwe,  wait01:03
rwe:>01:03
_antantgetting a 404 error. Yeah, I know what that means. But why would it be trying to get it from the wrong place?01:03
rwethis is going to be my last try, it really hurts to install w7 though01:03
nicolaushey guys01:03
coz_rwe,  what was the readout of   lspci | grep -i vga  again?01:03
ActionParsniprwe: use what you wish01:04
steven_hola01:04
rwei didnt post it, i can go over there and run it if you think it would help01:04
ActionParsniphi steven_01:04
nicolausi want to find the right linux for me can u giive me a site that as all the linux base OP plz01:04
coz_rwe,  either way i think the first one is the most recent01:04
mobius2Greetings Ubuntu channel  ;]     I  have some questions dealing with the grub boot loader on my dual boot laptop.01:04
_antantActionParsnip: Why would it try and download the linux kernel from the wrong place when trying to build?01:04
ActionParsnipnicolaus: http://distrowatch.com/01:04
quantnicolaus, distrowatch.com01:04
ActionParsnip_antant: not sure01:04
ActionParsnipnicolaus: there are LOADS01:04
nicolausthanks01:05
_antantActionParsnip: would it be something in the make file?01:05
mobius2if anyone  knows about brub, or how to rewrite my linux instance  into the  boot sequence I would greatly appreciate it01:05
terry_antant: Try:  http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/v2.6.38/linux-2.6.38-rc7.tar.gz01:05
mobius2grub*   sorry01:05
nicolausand how do i change the login screen on my linux01:05
nicolauslioke kde and stuff01:05
iqpiActionParsnip: no i mean wfms, its a tiling window manager01:05
coz_nicolaus,  well not like it used to be ,, hold on01:05
quantnicolaus, what do you mean exactly?01:05
iqpiActionParsnip: it has the best of awesome and dwm01:06
nicolausi mean like change the GUI01:06
the_core_hello01:06
_antantActionParsnip: How do I tell it to look there instead?01:06
coz_nicolaus,   download this text file and try it out01:06
ActionParsnipiqpi: gotcha :). I use plate and lxde but have started using unity so I can help users01:06
critical_maxFor anyone interested: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/551013 is the ONLY bug I have encountered after an upgrade to 10.10. Not bad at all. :) There is a long, ugly, workaround if anyone is interested http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml01:06
ubottuUbuntu bug 551013 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-logo on VGA fb (as with nvidia or fglrx binary drivers) does not display crisply" [Medium,Fix released]01:06
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quantnicolaus, you have to install the desired GUI's packages and while on the login screen choose the session that corresponds to the wanted GUI01:07
ezrafreehello01:07
ActionParsnipnicolaus: http://maketecheasier.com/change-login-and-boot-screen-in-ubuntu-lucid/2010/05/1301:07
coz_nicolaus,  now when you log off it will appear that you are going to change the system theme..however it will only effect the gdm theme,, and if you want to change the wallpaper behind it ,, make sure the image is under /usr/share/backgrounds01:07
critical_max10.10 also made my microphone magically "just work". Woohoo.01:07
ActionParsnipcritical_max: i've used that and advised it. I use it on every system I touch :)01:07
ezrafreei have firefox 4 installed and under Languages it says "English (en-us)" is incompatible... any ideas how to fix this?01:07
Benkinoobyhi, i heard a story about a guy who's laptop got stolen and he was able to locate it, remote control it and indentify the thief. google.reseach only give me windows-related articles and infos. is there something like that for ubuntu, and if not, how could i relaize that? (maybe ping my home server and use ssh via port 80?)01:08
critical_maxActionParsnip: you can vouch for the softpedia howto? I might try it, since I've done the right thing already and verified the bug exists and added my "this affects me" vote.01:08
the_core_I am Linux Iliterate and need help sorting my wireless connection01:08
joker__ActionParsnip: I did that, I still cannot enable 3d graphics, any other suggestions (ati x800 video driver)01:08
nicolausok thanks coz_01:08
nicolausquant can u give me a site that i can find all the GUIs i can use01:08
coz_Benkinooby,   check this out    http://www.arsgeek.com/2007/05/04/how-to-track-and-recover-your-linux-laptop-if-it-gets-stolen/01:09
rwecoz_01:09
rwehttp://pastebin.com/xLi2pmin01:09
critical_maxBenkinooby, "Prey" is an open source solution for that01:09
the_core_toshiba satelite laptop Ubuntu Netbook 10.10 installed01:09
Noobashbn01:09
coz_rwe,  yeah try that      first one on that link01:09
Jordan_Umobius2: What problem are you having exactly?01:09
coz_rwe,  please,, I cannot guarantee it wil work01:09
Noobashalguem pode me ajudar http://paste.ubuntu.com/585697/01:09
tensorpudding!br | Noobash01:10
ubottuNoobash: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.01:10
quantnicolaus, not sure, but more or less this: gnome, kde, xfce, lxde01:10
rwecoz_ yeah i know01:10
coz_rwe,  dont forget to reboot the system and then check resolutons01:10
rweim such a amateur on linux i never even tried to install a driver01:11
rweso lets se how this turnes out01:11
rwe-e01:11
coz_rwe,  well that one is as simple as double clicking it01:11
quantnicolaus, I believe that in the repos you might also find e16 and other ones01:11
rweok sweet01:11
critical_maxActionParsnip, I'm seeing reports of the softpedia workaround affecting sleep/hibernation with nvidia drivers. I'm on ATI. Are you on ATI too?01:11
ezrafreein firefox 4 i have "incompatible langauge pack" can anyone help me?01:11
coz_rwe,  as long as you downloaded  the .deb package01:11
ActionParsnipcritical_max: pure nvidia dude01:12
joker__ActionParsnip: I did that, I still cannot enable 3d graphics, any other suggestions (ati x800 video driver)01:12
Guest55472ActionParsnip:  WHich nvidia card are yhou running01:12
joker__blacklisted agpgart01:12
critical_maxActionParsnip, ok thanks. I also note that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/563878 appears to be the most current bug report for this problem.01:12
ubottuUbuntu bug 563878 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver" [Low,Triaged]01:13
critical_maxWow, it has over a dozen dupes. What a pain point01:13
prappl93Some YouTube videos work on the page for them, as in not in the channel for the publisher, but others that require you to start them require me to go to the channel to view them. Is there a way to fix this or do I have to live with going to the channels?01:14
ActionParsnipGuest57530: nvidia 6250 onboard01:14
ActionParsnipjoker__: you may need an xorg.conf file to specify resolutions01:14
Jake_ActionParsnip:  Thanks  Just changed my name back to Jake01:15
ActionParsnipGuest57530: sorry 615001:15
Jake_ActionParsnip:  Figures I wouldn't get lucky enough to have you running the same drivers as me.01:15
Sw33NYhey, i have an problem on my computer, when i boot my linux, error : BAR 6 : address space collision on of devices ... and that for my 2 pci cards01:15
iqpi_::;___*01:16
Benkinoobycritical_max, i didn't know prey is for linux too. tank you! coz_ tank you for the lin!01:16
Benkinoobylink01:16
Jake_ActionParsnip: I am running the GT 330M with the dual output01:16
soreauGuys, I need someone on maverick to show the output of 'ls -l /usr/sbin/update-info-dir' please01:16
nicolausquant what is repos?01:17
quantnicolaus, repositories01:17
quant!repository01:17
ubottuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories01:17
extra11hi01:18
coz_rwe,  just to mention.. I do have one system here with SIS video and that driver worked but it was lucid , I believe,01:19
uofm49426any small program i can test a mic01:20
coz_rwe,  and it might come in handy...especially if it works ,, if you decide to install 11.04  come end of April because you can log into the Unity 2d desktop with issues...hopefully01:20
coz_rwe,  rather without issues01:21
uofm49426like a record program01:21
Logan_!info moonlight-plugin-mozilla > Logan_01:21
ActionParsnipJake_: nice, that probably has more ram and cpu power than all my systems combined :)01:21
prappl93uofm49426, Did you check under Applications > Sound & Video > Sound Recorder?01:21
coz_uofm49426,  is the mic recognized?01:21
coz_uofm49426,  did you open a terminal  type     alsamixer   and check if the mic 's volume slider is down or muted01:22
uofm49426running lubuntu not new to it01:22
Jake_ActionParsnip:  2GB Video 4 GB Ram Quad 2.67 But the video card drivers don't work right yet01:22
venomola01:22
venomboa noite01:23
Jake_Suppose to have a fix in ubuntu 11.0401:23
prappl93uofm49426, you say you are running lubuntu right?01:23
uofm49426ok mic is alway to 10001:23
coz_Jake_,  one of the constant issues on development version is video can break before it is released  its already happend twice I believe so  if natty will solve the issue,, probably not unitl release01:24
uofm49426i just want a small program to go test on two test 1 2 the hear my self the uninstall it01:25
coz_uofm49426,  try camorama  or cheese  maybe01:25
coz_uofm49426,  I believe both of them have audio capabilities01:25
Jake_coz:  Yea for now I am counting down 34 days.  LOL01:25
coz_Jake_,  cool,,01:25
uofm49426cheese i have that01:25
coz_uofm49426,  hold on let me google this01:25
the_core_can someone please help me sort my wireless connection issue?01:26
uofm49426america or chedder lol sorry01:26
terrythe_core_: Sure....01:26
coz_uofm49426,   look here maybe this will help   http://www.seoras.com/2008/05/26/how-to-record-streaming-audio-with-audacity-in-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron/01:26
rwecoz_ what would you have me do after the install?01:26
KenBW2Can anyone point me in the direction of a Subversion client that can run without installation?01:26
rwejust reboot?01:26
coz_rwe,  reboot the system ,,, then01:26
terrythe_core_: What seems to be the problem?01:26
prappl93Does anyone know about a YouTube issue where some videos only work on the channel for the poster?01:27
rwecheck res01:27
rweright?01:27
coz_rwe,  open system/preferences/monitors if the reolution is too low01:27
coz_rwe,  this all I had to do on the one system i have with SIS01:27
Jake_Has anyone ever gotten a bio reader working in ubuntu?01:27
the_core_terry: thanks,I have a toshiba laptop with Ubuntu netbook 10.10 on it,and wont connect to my wireless I have ethernet hooked up now and it works fine01:27
rweyour one lucky guy man01:27
uofm49426cheese dont work unless i have cam tell me mo device found01:27
coz_Jake_,  like thumbprint reader?01:27
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prappl93the_core_, do you have a netbook or just a laptop?01:28
terrythe_core_: ifconfig | pastebinit01:28
the_core_terry: laptop01:28
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prappl93the_core_, if it is just a laptop, you should use the Desktop edition, and not Netbook. You might have better results that way.01:28
Dr_Williswireless drivers should be the same regardless of editions.01:29
terrythe_core_: I agree with prappl9301:29
sparky44i need help with downloading firefox 4, it was working fine then i restarted my comp and it reverted01:29
Jake_coz: Correct01:29
Dr_Willissparky44:  how did You install ff4?01:29
terryDr_Willis: We do not know that he has a driver issue.01:29
uofm49426camorama require cam too01:29
sparky44dr-willis; honestly i dont know what i did to fet it to work the first time01:30
terrythe_core_: Correction:  iwconfig | pastebinit01:30
uofm49426coz camorama require cam01:30
rwecoz_ im not able to boot ubuntu now ;p01:30
sparky44DR_willis; its in my downloaded file right now01:30
Dr_Willissparky44:  clarify what you mean by 'reverted' also...  perhaps read at -> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/install-firefox-4-in-ubuntu-1004-1010.html01:30
rwei just get to some dos like crap01:30
the_core_terry: ok will try01:30
Dr_Willissparky44:  you dont want to just go download some firefox4.tar.gz and use that...   unless you know what you are doing. :)01:31
sparky44dr_willis; it went back to the last fire fox i was using01:31
LunixMastarrwe: login?01:31
Dr_Willisrwe:  if you get to the command line.. that tecniically is uybuntu.. :)01:31
Dr_Willissparky44:  unless you can rember/give mopre details.. all i can suggest is check that URL and install it from the stable build PPAs01:31
sparky44dr_willis; yeea have no idea what im doing lol01:31
LunixMastarewwbuntu01:32
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Jake_coz:  It would be nice so I don't have to type while holding my laptop all the time.01:32
uofm49426i have a ebay laptop just testing stuff i may use the mic 10 in the computer life01:32
uofm49426i have a ebay laptop just testing stuff i may use the mic 10 times in the computer life01:32
the_core_terry: eth0      no wireless extensions.01:32
Dr_Willissparky44:  pehaps its best to just use the older version then.01:33
Logan_!ff4 | sparky4401:33
ubottusparky44: Firefox 4 is the current stable version of Firefox. Current versions of Ubuntu do not have it (see !latest), but there is an unofficial and unsupported PPA that you can use by running the following command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox01:33
terrythe_core_: lspci |grep -i wireless01:33
Dr_Willissudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable01:33
Dr_Willisis the ppa that url i pasted.. suggests also...01:33
uofm49426does ubuntu have a program like the old record program with window 95 to xp01:34
the_core_terry: does nothing :(01:34
Dr_Willissparky44:  sounds almost like you just dowmnloaded the .tar.gz binary archive.01:34
LunixMastardownload firefox4, extract to a directory, set your path and run it01:34
KenBW2Can anyone point me in the direction of a Subversion client that can run without installation?01:34
uofm49426that took sound from mic01:34
terrythe_core_: lspci01:34
prappl93uofm49426, Yes. It is located under Applications > Sound & Video > Sound Recorder01:34
terrythe_core_: Is there anything more in the output of iwconfig? (Besides eth0  no wireless extensions.)01:35
the_core_terry: no01:36
terrythe_core_: What does lspci say about the wireless nic?01:36
uofm49426is there a ubuntu chat thats just chat not support01:36
terry!ot | uofm4942601:37
ubottuuofm49426: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:37
the_core_terry: this it?  Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 8176 (rev 01)01:37
tgm4883Is there something that will graph my disk IO over time?01:37
dsnydersHi all!  Virtualbox or Xen?01:37
tgm4883i've found iotop, but I don't think that will do what I want01:37
Dr_Willisdsnyders:  depends on your needs i imagine.01:38
sparky44dr_willis; actualy think i tried doing it frm the link you sent me im going to try do do it agian thanks for the help01:38
dsnydersDr_Willis, I want to flip between linux, xp, and vista, and possibly one of the BSDs01:38
terrythe_core_:  Not sure.  Do you see another network controller?01:39
terrythe_core_: lspci | pastebinit01:39
terrythe_core_: Can you do this?:  ifconfig > nic-info ; wiconfig >> nic-info ; lspci >> nic-info ; pastebinit nic-info01:41
plut0how can i prevent kernel updates from overwriting the mbr?01:41
terryplut0: It is not the kernel updates, it's grub.01:42
the_core_terry: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'01:42
the_core_terry: I am new to Linux sorry01:42
terryplut0: But grub must re-write MBR in order to make the new kernel available.01:42
uofm49426ok /dev/dsp not found01:43
uofm49426do i modprobe dsp01:43
plut0terry: not true, updating the grub config is sufficient01:43
terrythe_core_:   ifconfig > nic-info ; iwconfig >> nic-info ; lspci >> nic-info ; pastebinit nic-info01:44
zxyQuestion: I screwed up on modifying a file in my system32 folder. If I use ubuntu through usb, will it grant sufficient access to rename the file? It would fix my windows partition.01:44
terryplut0: O01:44
the_core_terry: wiconfig: command not found01:44
mobius2Jordan_U,  I  recently installed a copy of windows to a computer,  now the new windows instance boots ,  grub boot loader does not appear at all. I do understand why, but I am a bit reluctant to make edits to the boot loader. Is there a way to convey to you the location of the p[artitions on my hard drive so that you might be able to help me make the edits to the grud config file?01:44
terrythe_core_:   ifconfig > nic-info ; iwconfig >> nic-info ; lspci >> nic-info ; pastebinit nic-info01:45
sicomy video card is an ati x1650 agp.  I'm thinking the newest ubuntu/ati drivers don't work anymore? or as good as they have in previous versions?  Can anyone recommend what I should use to maximize my ati x1650?01:45
terrythe_core_: iwconfig  not  wiconfig01:45
Jordan_sico: the radeon drivers will be fine01:45
Jake_dsnyders: I am using virtualbox and not having ny issues.01:45
terrythe_core_: Send us the resulting URL.01:45
edbianmobius2, You can show us all the partitions by putting the output of sudo fdisk -l  in a pastebin.01:45
mobius2edbian,  thanks ;]01:45
terrymobius2: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit01:46
sicoJordan_: and latest ubuntu? (10.10?)01:46
edbianmobius2, When you installed windows, windows wrote the windows boot loader into the MBR (it replaced grub).  There is no way to fix the problem without configuring the bootloader.01:46
Jordan_sico: the binary drivers won't work for your x1650, but the open source drivers work perfectly01:46
the_core_terry:  http://pastebin.com/rv8D03b901:46
Jake_dsnyders: I am running ubuntu 64 and virtualizing windows server 2003 2008 xp vista 7 and two linux distros01:46
ActionParsnipsico: the ati site will tell you if it is supported01:47
Jake_dsnyders: All on virtualbox.01:47
dsnydersJake_, I want to be able to flip between linux distros, XP and Vista, and possibly some others.  Can you do TCP/IP connectivity between them?01:47
ActionParsnipJake_: sounds expensive01:47
sicoah, ok.  is there any way for me to use the binary drivers? use older kernel? older ubuntu? or is the opensource driver 3d enabled like the binary? sorry for dumb questions :(01:47
Jordan_sico: the open source can do 3d perfectly01:47
terrymobius2: http://pastebin.com/qEEk2dYJ01:47
plut0anyone know how to prevent kernel updates (grub) from overwriting the mbr?01:48
sicoActionParsnip: yeah, it's not anymore.01:48
zxyAnyone?01:48
Jordan_plut0: kernel updates don't affect the mbr01:48
sicook, thanks guys.  10.10 amd64 it is01:48
Dr_Willisplut0:  how are you booting the system then?01:48
edbianplut0, They do not overwrite the MBR, the edit the config options for grub in files like /etc/grub.d/  What more specifically are you trying to avoid?01:48
ActionParsnipplut0: they don't anyway, the mbr stays the same but the config in grub is altered01:48
plut0Jordan_: kernel updates kick off grub which will reinstall the mbr01:48
plut0Dr_Willis: truecrypt is my boot loader01:49
Jake_ActionParsnip: Not really microsoft has a trial renewal so you can run an unactivated copy up to 120 days until you need to reinstall.  Besides I already had all these OS systems already.01:49
terrythe_core_: Okay... now we are getting someplace.  Atheros Communications AR8152  is the wifi NIC.01:49
ActionParsnipJake_: i see01:49
plut0edbian: kernel updates kick off grub and overwrites the mbr01:49
Dr_Willisnever heard of truecrypt. if it can chainload a grub boot loader. then your grub configs should be set to change taht....01:49
jribzxy: yes01:49
Dr_Willis!truecrypt01:50
ubottuTruecrypt is a free open-source on-the-fly disk encryption software.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TruecryptHiddenVolume01:50
edbianplut0, It reconfigures grub.  Grub is partially in the MBR and partially on your HDD.  It is to big to fit just in the MBR.  The bit in the MBR is rarely changed.01:50
zxyjrib: was that the answer to my question?01:50
jribzxy: yes01:50
zxyjrib: thanls01:50
kenzoadmin01:50
plut0Dr_Willis: it does actually, but a kernel update will overwrite truecrypt everytime01:50
Jake_dsnyder:  If are just wanting to run virutal machines for certain apps or like me to support different clients then just create several virtual machines like I did.01:50
zxyjrib: thanks01:50
ActionParsnipterry: AR8152 is an ethernet chip01:51
plut0edbian: say what you will but i keep losing truecrypt as my boot loader after a kernel update01:51
edbianplut0, I don't have any experience with truecrypt so I don't think I can be of any help to you. :(01:51
Jake_dsnyder: Using the 4 screens in ubuntu I can load windows fullscreen on one or more and still have the others working01:51
plut0edbian: i don't need help with truecrypt, i need grub to stop overwriting the mbr01:51
terryActionParsnip: It is?01:51
ActionParsnipterry: "The AR8152 is an ultra low-power PCIe Fast Ethernet controller for PC applications" http://www.atheros.com/technology/technology.php?nav1=48&product=9801:52
edbianplut0, Alright plut0.  Lemme research a second.  Now I wanna see who's right once and for all.01:52
Jake_dsnyders: if you are looking to play games on the virtual windows machine it will not work well.   You need to config dual boot then.01:52
Dr_Willisplut0:  it may be mentioned in some faq for truecrypt. Ive never used it either.01:52
ActionParsnipJake_: depends on the game01:52
dsnydersJake_, So, I keep ubuntu as my OS, then run Virtualbox on top of that, and then run XP within virtualbox?01:52
plut0edbian: i can tell you from experience, its happened to me about 6 times so far, getting really sick of fixing it01:53
mobius2sorry about the delay  ,  I am working on a different machine than the one I am using in this irc chan01:53
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mobius2http://pastebin.com/ZwzpwAqn01:53
mobius2edbian, thanks again for looking01:53
mobius2http://pastebin.com/ZwzpwAqn01:53
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dsnydersJake_, Or do I run virtualbox as my main OS and run linux within that?01:54
Jake_Yes but you will need to activate it agian using the cd key or perform the microsoft hack that allows you to continue the software trial.01:54
JasonnHow do i list all the processes being run by a user?01:54
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Jake_dsnyders: virtualbox is not an os01:54
ActionParsnipJasonn: ps -ef | grep username   should do it01:54
Jake_dsnyders: virtualbox is an app01:55
the_core_terry: what can I do now?01:55
terrySo what driver is used for the  Realtek  8176 ?   ActionParsnip ....?01:55
mobius2edbian, terry  based on that output,  do you think you might be able to advise me on the required edits to the grub configuration file?01:55
dsnydersJake_, Ah, Okay.01:55
terrythe_core_: I don't know. That NIC should have worked I think.  Not finding any thing on it.01:55
terryAnyone using a  Realtek  8176 ?01:56
terry the_core_ Is this system fully updated yet?01:56
Jordan_terry: I think my server does01:56
edbianplut0, Can I see /etc/fstab?  What is your encrypted volume?01:56
the_core_terry: ok thanks,on stand by to see if anyone can help01:56
Jake_dsnyders:  Just pick the os you want to run as main then virtualize the others.  Hint use the os with the smallest footprint as your main.01:56
the_core_terry: updated not long ago01:56
terryJordan_: could you do lsmod | pastebinit  from it?01:56
edbianmobius2, This will probably be endlessly useful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub201:57
* mobius2 uses the b43 driver with a BCM 4318 NIC, I love that card01:57
Jordan_terry: my server's lan chip uses the r8169 driver01:57
plut0edbian: http://pastebin.com/hC3uPBNW01:57
B9I have two netbooks an old one which I use as a back up and a new one. Both netbooks are running Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat Netbook Remix 10.10 as an OS. I am chatting on the old one atm. The new one is not booting correctly. I log in and then it opens the orange luminescent Maverick Meerkat wallpaper but none of the graphical user interface of the OS fires up. I did a USB disk installation of 10.10 but this doesn't seem to work either. I would apprec01:57
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B9iate some help.01:57
mobius2edbian,  I do appreciate you very much  :)01:57
plut0edbian: root and swap01:57
plut0edbian: i'm dual booting windows which is encrypted with truecrypt01:58
terryJordan_: We're talking wifi here.01:58
abahkaiyisahgoodmorning all01:58
edbianplut0, So what is encrypted?  windows or / or swap?  Or all 3?01:58
Jordan_terry: oh. nevermind01:58
plut0edbian: all 301:58
dtcrshrmanaged to connect, but when starts to transfer data the connection gets dropped. too much googling and forum searching, can anyone tell me if ubuntu can connect, at all, to wpa2 enterprise connecitons?01:58
Jake_Mornign abahkaiyisah01:58
dsnydersJake_, Smallest footprint, eh?  Virtualbox for DOS? :-)01:58
edbianplut0, Can I see your /etc/fstab?   (do you have any problems with windows after you get a kernel update? (and have grub reconfigured?)01:58
plut0edbian: truecrypt is the boot loader, it chain loads grub so i can boot both01:58
abahkaiyisahanyone ever clone partition via lan01:59
plut0edbian: http://pastebin.com/hC3uPBNW01:59
Dr_Willisabahkaiyisah:  thats doable. several differnt ways.. depening on your exact setup and needs.01:59
Jake_dsnyders:  I actually have 3 machines using vb server 03 fedora and ubuntu01:59
plut0edbian: after a kernel update, grub is reinstalled and truecrypt doesn't load anymore, it goes straight to grub01:59
sgt_haggerhey guys, how to i install a game from a .run?01:59
terrythe_core_: What is the make and model of the notebook?01:59
edbianplut0, A-ha!  So we're both right (sort of).  The truecrypt boot-loader is getting over-written by grub in the MBR01:59
ActionParsnipdsnyders: Jake_ : xpud and puppy have tiny footprints01:59
edbianplut0, yeah.01:59
plut0edbian: exactly02:00
abahkaiyisahany tools?02:00
the_core_terry: Toshiba satelite L65502:00
Dr_Willissgt_hagger:  you 'run' the  file by making it an executable...02:00
Dr_Willis!backup | abahkaiyisah02:00
ubottuabahkaiyisah: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning02:00
pstewartplut0: you'd probably want to consider chainloading truecrypt from grub02:00
Dr_Willissgt_hagger:  chmod +x foo.run, then ./foo.rin02:00
plut0pstewart: i tried that, could never get it to work02:00
abahkaiyisahthanks02:01
plut0pstewart: i would do it if i could though, believe me02:01
Jake_ActionParsnip: True but I figured I would load the main OS I was aiming for per machine instead of always running a virtual os02:01
pstewartplut0: the only other option i can think of then is to ignore kernel updates all together and manually install them when required02:01
edbianplut0, Perhaps you could figure out how to get grub to load truecrypt: http://grub.enbug.org/TrueCrypt02:02
plut0edbian: i'd love to but could never figure out how02:02
terrythe_core_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=160890802:03
sgt_haggerDr_Willis, i made it executable and clicked it and says veryfing integrity then uncompressing installer02:03
sgt_haggerthen return to exit02:03
edbianplut0, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/71303102:03
ubottuUbuntu bug 713031 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Updating Grub2 overwrites MBR without confirmation, or backing up (dup-of: 495423)" [Medium,Triaged]02:03
ubottuUbuntu bug 495423 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "update to grub-pc writes MBR without checks, prompt or backup" [Undecided,Confirmed]02:03
venom_como encontro  salas em portugues02:03
JasonnI am running inspircd, i ran it, it gave me an error, and now it sais its running, i tried to restart the server, but it still sais its running, i also tried ./inspircd stop - it sais that there is no such process, but still deosnt let me run i y02:03
Jasonn!pt | venom_02:04
ubottuvenom_: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.02:04
Dr_Willissgt_hagger:  use teh command line.. not double clicking.. look for error messages02:04
terrythe_core_: Where it says: "The Wireless NIC in my model required the rtl 8192CE driver, available Here"  Here points to:  http://218.210.127.131/#278202:04
venom_grato02:04
plut0this might be it, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10015847&postcount=2302:05
JasonnI am running inspircd, i ran it, it gave me an error, and now it sais its running, i tried to restart the server, but it still sais its running, i also tried ./inspircd stop - it sais that there is no such process, but still deosnt let me run i y02:05
sgt_haggerDr_Willis,  just says uncompressing then all good?02:06
JasonnActionParsnip: I am running inspircd, i ran it, it gave me an error, and now it sais its running, i tried to restart the server, but it still sais its running, i also tried ./inspircd stop - it sais that there is no such process, but still deosnt let me run i y02:06
ActionParsnipJasonn: I don't know, that's why I didn't reply when you asked the first time.....02:07
JasonnActionParsnip: but what if this were to happen with any other program? What would i do, also the process doesnt show up when i do the command you gave me02:08
leapy0yohi02:08
ActionParsnipJasonn: not sure, try kiling the pid with -902:08
dsnydersplut0, they may also be able to help over at #truecrypt.02:08
leapy0yois there a way I can make my windows key to be a left mouse button k4ey?02:08
plut0dsnyders: thank you02:08
JasonnActionParsnip:  you mean: kill PROCESSNUMBER -9 ,--02:09
JasonnActionParsnip:  you mean: kill PROCESSNUMBER -9 **02:09
Jake_Anyone here ever work with a multitouch monitor and ubuntu?02:09
ActionParsnipJake_: read: man kill02:09
pstewartplut0: i've never tried it, but i would think that taking a backup of your mbr with DD and then making a menu.lst entry with 'chainloader +1' calling the image you just made02:09
sgt_hagger?02:09
pstewartbut yeah, #truecrypt is probably a better place :)02:09
JasonnActionParsnip: I will, thanks :)02:09
Jake_ActionParsnip: ?02:10
Jake_ActionParsnip: Oh you meant to talk to Jasonn02:11
JasonnActionParsnip: no such process02:11
leapy0yois there a way I can make my windows key to be a left mouse button k4ey?02:11
ActionParsnipJasonn: try: ps -ef | grep irc02:12
terrythe_core_: Did you find it?  http://218.210.127.131/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true02:13
Dr_Willissgt_hagger:  did it make somtning when it uncompressed?02:13
JasonnActionParsnip: there was one, i killed it, but the ircd still wont start02:14
the_core_terry: waiting for the page to load from that last link02:14
Dr_Willissgt_hagger:  theres a reason you dont see .run or other 'self installing executables  for programs' :) theres just to many things to go wrong and they can get broken easially with new versions of linux..02:14
sgt_haggerwhats the alternative with linux?02:15
Dr_Willis!apt02:15
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)02:15
the_core_terry: what do I do with the file? save?02:15
sgt_haggerah right02:15
Dr_Willissgt_hagger:  with UBUNTu - the apt package manager system is the way to 'do things'  related to installing/removeing software02:15
spiralssgt_hagger, Ubuntu Software Center (from your main menu, top left)02:16
JasonnActionParsnip: what is killall ??02:16
Dr_Willissgt_hagger:  what game do you have that even came as a .run  file?02:16
uofm49426its a comman to kill a program02:16
sgt_haggerjust a python game, i am learning python and wanted to see what it can make02:16
leapy0yohow can i map the left click bhutton to the windows key?02:17
sgt_haggerseems i cant though :)02:17
Dr_Willissgt_hagger:  in that case check the .run file and see what its doing.. see if it extracted some files to some dir...02:17
Dr_Willisif its a python script.. it should be ascii text you can read.02:17
spiralssgt_hagger, #python for python support02:17
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sgt_haggerjust says uncompresing, then a load of '.........................'02:17
uofm49426mostly used to kill a stuck program02:18
ActionParsnipJasonn: not sure, i use kill02:18
JasonnActionParsnip: thanks02:18
Seven_Six_TwoJasonn, it's to kill all processes of a specific name.02:19
spiralsJasonn, killall will try to match everything with the name (like the output of 'pgrep somename')02:19
JasonnSeven_Six_Two: thanks02:19
Jake_Jasonn:  In the unix days killall would pretty much disable everything on the servers02:19
Seven_Six_TwoJasonn, it's nice, because if xine is acting up, you do   killall xine02:19
terrySeven_Six_Two: Jasonn pkill xine02:19
the_core_terry: what do I do with the rlt 8192ce_linux_2.6.0005.1116.2010.tar.gz02:20
terrythe_core_: tar zxvf 8192ce_linux_2.6.0005.1116.2010.tar.gz02:20
Jake_Jasonn: Never tried it with linux02:20
delinquentmeis there an easy way to setup a shortcut to a directory for the ubuntu console?02:20
digivWhat file system would people recommend for file systems larger then 3TB?02:21
spiralsdelinquentme, "ln -s target link"02:21
edbiandigiv, ext402:21
the_core_terry: what is that?  tar zxvf 8192ce_linux_2.6.0005.1116.2010.tar.gz02:21
terrythe_core_:  To tell the truth, I really don't know what is going on with remix, that driver should just be there.02:21
thauriswulfaQUESTION:can i run software like nokia pc suite or mobile partener through wine properly?02:21
digivedbian: Thanks02:21
intraderAnyone, I am trying to revert to precious kernel image. Synaptic is applying update and never ending.02:21
the_core_terry: same as what I have here ready to d/l?02:21
spiralsthauriswulfa, see appdb.winehq.org/ for complete details02:22
terrythe_core_: Unpack the tarball with command tar zxvf 8192ce_linux_2.6.0005.1116.2010.tar.g02:22
delinquentmespirals, is that when im in the directory i want to make a shortcut to?02:22
delinquentmeand how do i call it from ~/02:22
thauriswulfaspirals,not able to find out from there!02:22
terrythe_core_: Open a GUI terminal. cd to where you downloaded it.  Issue command: zxvf 8192ce_linux_2.6.0005.1116.2010.tar.gz02:22
spiralsthauriswulfa, if the info is not there you stand to lose little by trying yourself. it will either work or not. won't break your linux system to try.02:22
terrythe_core_: Open a GUI terminal. cd to where you downloaded it.  Issue command: tar zxvf 8192ce_linux_2.6.0005.1116.2010.tar.gz02:22
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intraderAnyone, how can I end Synaptic and recover from this?02:23
terryintrader: What is it doing?02:23
spiralsdelinquentme, example you are in your desktop:    doing   "ln -s /opt/some/random/dir ShortCutToDir" will make a shortcut called "ShortCutToDir" on your desktop that points to /opt/some/random/dir02:23
terryintrader: What command did you give it?02:24
spiralsdelinquentme, you can omit the link name or use "." for current directory, both methods will preserve the target name as the link name02:24
terryintrader: What command did you tell synaptic to do?02:24
_antantterry: how hard is it to patch a driver into a kernel?02:24
intraderterry, "Applying Changes" - Waiting for Synactic to exit02:25
terry_antant: Not hard at all if it's done via the package manager.02:25
_antantmy TV card won't work with the stock ones in the kerndl02:25
spiralsdelinquentme, creating a link somewhere else to the current directory would look more like "ln -s . /some/distant/link/to/mycwd"02:25
_antantterry: well I'm trying to patch it into a self build02:26
spiralsdelinquentme, it's not as convenient because you don't get to preserve the link name that way. easier to make the link at the location you want it to be02:26
intraderterry, just to apply updates02:26
delinquentmespirals, i was looking for something like a sym link for the console .. not an icon .. its cool though i've got material for googleing now02:27
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spiralsdelinquentme, that's exactly how you make a symlink for the console... try the commands with your paths02:27
intraderterry, sorry "Install Updates"02:27
spiralsif you give me the paths you're working with i'll give you the literal command to run02:27
spiralsdelinquentme, not sure what you mean by icon but a symlink will show in Nautilus when you make it02:28
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terrythe_core_: Did you unpack it yet?02:30
the_core_terry: cant find it02:30
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terryintrader: Well, it just takes a while to install updates.  Be patient.02:30
terrythe_core_: Try Downloads/02:30
intrader2hrs?02:30
terrythe_core_: cd Downloads/02:30
holmserI can't seem to get my ubuntu partition to boot from grub2 after a botched set of windows installs02:30
spiralsholmser, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:31
spiralsyou can use the live cd to repair, see above link02:31
dsnydersholmser, This is where it becomes handy to have a liveCD02:31
holmserit drops me into an interimfs shell and says it cant find /dev/disk/by-uid/blahblahblah02:31
terrythe_core_: See my private message...02:31
holmserspirals, already followed that02:32
spiralsholmser, what's your Ubuntu release?02:32
holmser10.1002:32
_antantterry: Don't suppose you've got any hints for me or know where I can find a guide to do it do you? Or just how hard it is02:33
spiralsholmser, did the additional troubleshooting referenced in http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-recover-grub2-after-windows.html help?02:33
spiralsoops, that's a broken link :(02:33
Jake_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:33
spiralsholmser, I found an archive of that help page: try this http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20090627091409/http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-recover-grub2-after-windows.html02:34
spiralsJake_, he's been through that one.02:34
_antantholmster: what error does it give? How exactly does it go wrong?02:35
spirals_antant, <holmser> it drops me into an interimfs shell and says it cant find /dev/disk/by-uid/blahblahblah02:35
Jake_spirals: Sorry I just saw you say your link was dead and luckily had one handy02:35
spiralsJake_ :) yes the link out of the Ubuntu docs was dead, thank goodness for archive.org02:35
Jake_spirals:  Used it myself many a time.02:36
holmserhmm... /dev/sda doesn't show up in fdisk02:36
holmserbut I am able to mount it02:36
holmservery strange02:36
_antantit doesn't show up in fdisk??02:37
spiralsholmser, /dev/sda is the disk, anything you can mount would be a partition (like /dev/sda1)02:37
holmsernevermind... It shows in fdisk.  Wasn't scrolling.02:37
holmserwhoops :)02:37
_antantlol02:37
holmserWhat exactly does chroot do?02:38
spiralsholmser, it makes it as if you'd booted from the system you chroot to, in terms of the active terminal02:39
holmsergotcha.02:39
spiralsholmser, very useful for recovery, or for creating minisystems for users who only need 1 app on a server, etc.02:39
abstrakthow do I view my screen's refresh rate? http://gog.is/ubuntu/refresh/rate only shows how to change it, not how to see it02:40
Sw33NY_hi all02:40
spiralsabstrakt, System > Preferences > Monitors02:40
Sw33NY_whan i plug PCI Card i must install drivers or it's plug and play ?02:41
Sw33NY_when*02:41
_antantholmster: have you tried reinstalling grub?02:41
spiralsSw33NY_, it depends on the card. Can you tell us what brand and model of card?02:41
spirals_antant, he's doing that right now.02:41
spiralsgrub2 specifically, since it's 10.1002:41
_antantyeah02:42
_antantI'm still wondering how I go about patching a driver into the build I'm making02:42
Sw33NY_spirals: d-link DGE-528T (SATA Controller)02:43
leapy0yoare any of you able to use your super key or the windows key, the one on the left?02:43
extra11weird fedora won googles os award or whatever but ubuntu wasn't even in the runnin02:43
sleep20yes02:43
extra11ubuntu much more popular afaik02:43
Logan_!ot | extra1102:43
ubottuextra11: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:43
abstraktspirals, nope, that just opens the nVidia control panel02:43
spiralsSw33NY_, that comes up as a Network controller not SATA02:43
abstraktwhich doesn't tell me the refresh rate02:44
Sw33NY_spirals: when i start my computer i have errors : BAR 6 : Address space in collision on of device02:44
Sw33NY_spirals: yeah sorry02:44
holmseralright spirals, wish me luck.  followed the instructions and about to reboot02:44
Sw33NY_spirals: but my card works02:44
abstraktextra11, well, debian bastardizes a lot of stuff from the "linux purist" point of view02:44
holmserthanks for the help02:44
spiralsabstrakt, I see, maybe someone with NVidia can help. I am on ATI and there is no custom control panel. Sorry.02:44
extra11ahh abstrakt, ok, thanks02:44
spiralsSw33NY_, one minute02:45
spiralsSw33NY_, what is your release of Ubuntu?02:45
abstraktextra11, Apache HTTPD to name but one common example02:45
abstraktextra11, this makes a lot of people angry and or they don't take debian based distros seriously as servers02:46
bob__I have nvidea02:46
abstraktextra11, for users though Ubuntu is pretty much tops02:46
Jake_Anyone here ever work with a multitouch monitor and ubuntu?02:46
skullboyhow do i get the public ip without connecting to a server via bash02:46
Sw33NY_spirals: Debian Squeeze : /02:46
on_elktam, potrzebuje wskazowek zeby sie polaczyc na czat.wp.pl02:46
jhflaptop mouse question -- second install of 10.10, it starts off ok but after a few weeks the touchpad left click stops clicking ( i have to hold it down ) or click several times ..... works in other distros02:46
spiralsSw33NY_, you need to get support from #debian then. It's going to be different from Ubuntu.02:46
Sw33NY_yeah but i have this error on Ubuntu 10.04 too02:47
on_elktam, potrzebuje wskazowek zeby sie polaczyc na czat.wp.pl?02:47
skullboyhow do i get the public ip without connecting to a server via bash02:47
MacByteguys im having an issue when i try to download updates, it says "fail to download packages, please check internet connection." but I notice that I am still connected to the internet (eg. google still loads) anyone wanna help me with this issue?02:47
on_elki need to connect czat.wp.pl, any help?02:47
spiralsSw33NY_, ok I'll check for 10.0402:47
quantMacByte, could be your mirrors down, try in a little while02:47
MacBytemirrors?02:47
MacByteok quant...02:47
bob__abstrakt: I have nvidea - let me check what you asked02:48
quantMacByte, servers used by your machine to fetch packages from02:48
abstraktbob__, cool thanks02:48
MacByteoh kk thanks quant :)02:48
quantMacByte, sure02:48
alex__hi im a new xubntu user. many things dont work please help02:48
abstraktactually I'm pretty sure it's 60hz, because that's the only option I have available when I choose a different rez02:48
skullboyhow do i get the public ip without connecting to a server via bash02:49
dsnydersSince this seems to be boot night, has anyone set up  a dual boot machine using the BIOS system partition option to select the OS?02:49
MacByteanother issue i am having sometimes when i try to change the settings in the power options for my display. it asks for authentication so I put in my password.. after that it just lags the authentication window02:49
spiralsSw33NY_, I couldn't find any reports in Google of problems with the RT 8169 driver and that card in Ubuntu. Only hardware problems solved those threads (like "bad card" or "bad patch cable")02:50
spiralsSw33NY_, can you pastebin that error again please02:50
alex__if someone can help me please let me know... i have a alienware m11x and many things dont work like the video card, wireless, the touch bad is crazy haywire02:50
spiralsSw33NY_, please also pastebin "dmesg | grep unknown"02:51
spiralsi'll be right back.02:51
bob__abstrakt: use system/preferences/monitor and answer 'yes' to use nvideo setup02:51
Sw33NY_yeah yeah spirals, i have ... Heden CARPI3SATA like network cards > errors02:51
Sw33NY_spirals: i paste it02:52
leapy0yois there a way to map my windows or SUper key? do any of you able to use this key?02:52
abstraktbob__, already two steps ahead of you :)02:52
abstraktbob__, but it doesn't show the refresh rate02:52
Sw33NY_no message spirals02:52
sleep20leapy0yo: Look into using xmodmap02:52
abstraktbob__, though it does show a list of potential refresh rates when you select your resolution to be somethin gother than auto02:52
skullboyhow do i get the public ip without connecting to a server via bash02:52
MacByteany ideas?02:52
skullboyhow do i get the public ip without connecting to a server via bash02:53
Sw33NY_one minute spirals02:53
bob__abstrakt: I haven't fooled with it - if I had a choice I would use Radeon as it supports linux02:54
zabomberskullboy: that doesnt make sense?02:54
xangua!repeat | skullboy02:54
ubottuskullboy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/02:54
Sw33NY_http://paste.ubuntu.com/585724/02:54
DoctorTruthcan anyone recommend a free DVD burning program that will author and create a standard DVD from any .avi file to play on a standard player that does not read the data style discs. Brasero does not seem to work and I have not been able to track down a free Nero for Ubuntu on line.02:54
stillbourneOk, I'm trying to remaster a livecd with a kernel I compiled from vanilla sources from kernel.org ( version 2.6.38.1 ) I've done a update-initramfs to rebuild the initrd after I compiled the kernel and freinds and copied the vmlinuz to the appropriate location. However my boot drops me into initramfs and does not load the squashfs filessystem. Any Ideas?02:54
sleep20DoctorTruth: K3B02:54
cl0seAnyone know of software to monitor many ubuntu servers? maybe web based? showing uptime, disk usage, loads, etc... ?02:54
spiralsskullboy, "traceroute google.com", or just log into your router and get its public IP there02:55
DoctorTruthsleep20 - built in authoring tool?02:55
Dr_Williscl0se:  perhaps ebox.02:55
Sw33NY_cl0se: munit ?02:55
skullboy<zabomber> i want to resolve my public ip address via bash but i dont want a server to resolve it for me02:55
jhfabstrakt: bob__ nvidia has beter support as all the cards have a propietary driver for linux02:56
dsnyderscl0se, You may want to take a gander at webmin.02:56
nathan42100hey all. Sorry if this is too long. For my job, we have a live CD to run a bash based backup script to backup data via rsync and nfs. Recently, we upgraded the firmware on our NAS which changed the share paths (we have no idea why the hell QNAP did that). We needed to update our live disk, and decided to move ahead to 10.04.2 from 9.10 since we didn't know how to make one *easily* (so make a new one with the newest version). I d02:56
sysadmhello, i need help reseting mysql root password02:56
Dr_Williswebmin is not well loved by the ubuntu/debian community. :) ebox is a similer tool02:56
sysadmhello, i need help reseting mysql root password02:56
sysadmhello, i need help reseting mysql root password02:56
FloodBot3sysadm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:56
nathan42100easier for me and future student sysadmins. I set up the user accounts and most of the packages, however i've run into a show-stopping snag. "nfs-common" will not install. It gives an error 1 at configuration, also saying that it has no idea what statd is (as a service). At one point I got it to at least recognize statd, but it was not able to start it. I've tried all the fixes I could find online, and one worked. HELP ME!02:56
_antantbob___: there's a massive fail with the nvidia drivers and grub202:57
spiralsSw33NY_, is there an actual problem that you've noticed in usage (anything to solve immediately?) I found this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/42414202:57
ubottuUbuntu bug 424142 in linux (Ubuntu) "Address Collision" [Undecided,Confirmed]02:57
bob__jhf: I was just going by the things I see on this channel - I am not an expert02:57
Dr_Willis_antant:  there is?02:57
spiralsSw33NY_, but I'm not getting any sense of how it affects the user02:57
zabomberskullboy: how are you connected to the internet. this question is answered depending on this fact.02:57
skullboy<zabomber> behind a router02:58
alex__many things dont work on my alienware m11x... like the touchpad is crazy, the video card is not work, the wireless do not work02:58
spiralssysadm: join #mysql for mysql support02:58
alex__please someone help02:58
[deXter]Hi all02:58
Dr_Willisskullboy:  so you want the routers external ip?02:58
taranis it possible to install OS on a slave disk while Im logged into the Master Disk of my ubuntu OS?02:58
Sw33NY_hmm ok spirals, thanks you, and do you know this error affects my perf of hdd ?02:59
spiralsSw33NY_, not from anything I've read02:59
spiralsyou're welcome02:59
JasonnHow do i allow inspircd to access a port?02:59
skullboyDr_Willis: that is correct02:59
zabomberskullboy: http://www.simplehelp.net/2009/04/07/how-to-find-your-public-ip-address-with-the-linux-command-line/02:59
Dr_Willisalex__:  i would check the forums for that exact laptop. there may be a thread listing various fix's and tweaks for it.02:59
jhfbob__ http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us02:59
Sw33NY_ok spirals, good job !02:59
Sw33NY_spirals: thanks you02:59
stillbourneOk, I'm trying to remaster a livecd with a kernel I compiled from vanilla sources from kernel.org ( version 2.6.38.1 ) I've done a update-initramfs to rebuild the initrd after I compiled the kernel and freinds and copied the vmlinuz to the appropriate location. However my boot drops me into initramfs and does not load the squashfs filessystem. Any Ideas?02:59
cl0seguess what I'm looking for is landscape-like thing that I can run just on my own network03:00
Dr_Willisskullboy:  ive seen dozens of variants on 'what is my ip' type commands when i googled for it a few months back, .. not sure what all your special needs are03:00
nathan42100stillbourne, also having issues with liveCD creation, mine won't install nfs-common03:00
alex__dr willis.. what is that03:00
[deXter]My maverick refuses to automount external hard drives (usb) anymore. I end up having to mount it manually and then set the right permissions so that I can access it without root. Any ideas how to fix it back to the default behaviour? Thanks.03:00
nathan42100stillbourne: I used uck to make mine (uck.sourceforge.net, also on apt-get) and it seemed to work fine. Made it REALLY easy03:00
bob__jhf: I just used search for drivers and selected the one it recommended03:00
skullboyDr_Willis: it connects to a server i want to do it without connecting to a server03:00
Dr_Willisalex__:  what is what? the Ububntu Forums?03:00
alex__yea03:01
spiralsskullboy, the ubuntu related solution is use "traceroute" on the terminal and look at the output. Otherwise just google your router model and find out how to log into it and get the info direct from the device that has the address assigned to it. It's pretty easy.03:01
stillbournenathan42100, if that work I will love you forever03:01
Dr_Willisskullboy:  why does it matter?  you could grab the proper web page from your routers configs i imagine...03:01
DrMorphiasok i need help... when i install ubuntu on my desktop, it just automatically reboots over and over... i have to use the windows bootloader to access ubuntu.  i have a rocketraid card.03:01
Dr_Willis!forums | alex__03:01
ubottualex__: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC freenode #ubuntuforums.03:01
DrMorphiashow do i setup Grub2 for rocketraid?03:02
nathan42100stillbourne: I don't know how integrating a custom kernel works, but you basically have access to the root filesystem (at /home/<username>/tmp/), synaptic and a terminal which you can start anything from03:02
Dr_Willisbbl03:02
on_elkconnect czat.wp.pl03:02
stillbournedoes it use casper?03:02
JasonnActionParsnip: Should a prog just be able to use any port it wants automatically?03:03
on_elk#czat.wp.pl03:03
on_elk#connect czat.wp.pl03:03
skullboyDr_Willis: im writing a script part of that script grabs the public ip address but i if it is only local and someone executes the script it wont work03:03
syrinx_Jasonn: no03:03
spiralsJasonn: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers, especially "well known ports" etc03:03
nathan42100stillbourne: I'd recommend doing it in a VM of ubuntu and take a snapshot just before you finish the build, there is no way to go back, you'll have to restart it each time03:04
spiralsJasonn: basically well known ports require root privs to serve on03:04
nmaxchathello. Cant get my Open Office spellcheck to work in Linux03:04
nmaxchatOO3.203:04
Jasonnspirals: so how do i let a prog use the port?03:04
DrMorphiashow do i setup rocketraid with grub2? it grub2 fails and reboots my computer.03:05
spiralsJasonn: depends on what program. be specific03:05
Jasonnspirals: irc server (inspircd)03:05
[deXter]nmaxchat: OO is dead. Long live LO.03:05
Jasonnspirals: port 6667 (am i supposed to specify this in the config file? Its part of an IRC network)03:05
nmaxchatDexTerDDIT, meaning?03:05
[deXter]nmaxchat: Meaning everyone is boycotting OpenOffice because of the whole Oracle thing, and so we've moved onto LibreOffice which is infinitely better.03:06
nathan42100stillbourne: as to your casper question, it can use whatever you want afaik. You just have to configure it right03:06
spiralsJasonn: I'm not familiar with configuring inspircd, you might find more help on #freenode which supports irc bots. http://wiki.inspircd.org/Configuration#.3Cbind.3E seems to have a great amount of detail on the topic too.03:07
[deXter]nmaxchat: You can read all about it over here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice03:07
stillbournenathan42100, thanks I'm looking at it now03:07
[deXter]nmaxchat: and you can install it by these instructions: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/libreoffice-3-3-2-released-and-ppa-installation-instrauctions-included.html03:07
nmaxchatdexter lemme look03:07
skullboyhow do i traceroute my self03:07
sleep20wat?03:07
guampaskullboy: traceroute localhost03:08
jsoftskullboy: kinda pointless..03:08
spiralsJasonn: in general you just need to do what the docs for the inspircd project say, and if the docs aren't clear, you will be in a world of hurt for the entire time, and should consider a better documented project03:08
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Jasonnspirals: Yeah, thanks for the info mate, ill also talk to the network admin :)03:08
spiralsJasonn: That would be best. Sorry I couldn't help in more detail.03:09
Jasonnspirals: Nah, i understand :)03:09
spiralsJasonn: For what it's worth the docs do look good for inspircd. Not meaning to malign that project at all . :)03:09
holmserI'm back, with more info.  Seems as though my ext4 partition is corrupted somehow.  I checked what the partition uuid was and it came back as "ambivilant"03:09
skullboyhow do i get my external ip via bash without a server resolving it for me03:09
holmserI have no idea what that would mean, other than I can't boot from it03:10
zubin71hello everyone, is there any kind of an apt-get hack which can get me a listing of deb packages(in the ubuntu repo, of course) written in C?03:10
Jasonnspirals: Its mostly made for people with a brain, and me not having one, may interefere with the install process.03:10
spiralszubin71, 'apt-cache rdepends libc6' for a start03:10
DaPenguinskullboy, try ifconfig03:10
zubin71spirals: nice, thank you.03:11
skullboy<DaPenguin> that gives me the local ip adress03:11
guampaskullboy: if you are connected directly to the internet you can get it from the interface address03:11
DaPenguinmine gives me my external ip03:11
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DrMorphiashi. i am trying to install Ubuntu linux and i think grub2 installation failed.  I have to reinstall windows bootloader to get back into windows.  How do i configure grub2 for rocketraid?03:12
Guest52242Just installed Fedora 14 on Sony Vaio PCG-K27 and cannot run Netgear autorun.exe for product GWU625.  It says it supports Fedora 10(kernal:2.6.27.5-117)  do I have to only install this specific release for the hardware to work?03:12
spiralsskullboy, please refer to the specific directions I gave for traceroute earlier: "traceroute google.com" and use your BRAIN to look at the output.03:12
xanguaGuest52242: ask in #fedora03:12
bob__holmser: can you boot from stick or cd and run e2fsck on the suspect drive03:12
spiralsskullboy, the first IP that's not a local network IP in the output, is your router's external IP03:12
Guest52242ty xangua03:13
Jasonnspirals: do you know what i can do if m_regex_pcre.so is missing? (Its a module)03:13
Jasonnspirals: that might be the problem03:13
holmserbob__: I ran e2fsck from gparted already.  no dice03:13
skullboy<spirals> i know you can get it from connecting to a server how do i get it without connecting to a server03:14
spiralsJasonn, i googled "ubuntu m_regex_pcre.so" and the top two results say to install "gnutls-bin gnutls-dev gnutls" packages03:14
spiralsskullboy: follow the directions I already gave you to google your router's model name and log into its web interface and get the IP address from there03:15
bob__holmser: If I was you I would get another drive, put ubuntu on it and see what you can recover from the old one03:15
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DaPenguinskullboy, it's usually on 192.168.0.1 or 1.103:15
skullboy<spirals> i trying not to connect to the router to get it03:15
Jasonnspirals: I tried looking for that, but it doesnt bring up any results, I mean in the repos, i know that i have to install a package, but i can tfind it, one sec ill get the name03:16
skullboy<DaPenguin> that is a local ip03:16
spiralsskullboy, you need to make some sort of a connection to the device that has the address. if you aren't willing to then you need to reexamine what and why you're doing03:16
spiralsand i can't help03:16
nmaxchatDexter I dont feel comfortable changing everything on my PC03:16
spiralsJasonn, i'll check for the 10.10 name too03:16
Jasonnthanks :)03:16
DaPenguinskullboy, and the config in the router should tell you what the external ip is03:16
holmserwhen I run blkid I get this:  /dev/sda: PTTYPE="dos"03:16
spiralsDaPenguin, don't bother, he wants a magic way to do it while being 'invisible'03:17
holmserwhy would it say it is a dos partition when it is really ext4?03:17
holmserhow do I change that?03:17
spiralsDapenguin, four different people have told him how to do it03:17
DaPenguinspirals, oh, ok03:17
bob__holmser: do you have dual boot with windows?03:17
Jasonnspirals: I see what it does, but i dont see any info on it, anywhere you know i can get support for this? like a channel? #inspircd doesnt work03:17
jtannenbaumI'm on 10.10, I updated the kernel, compositing broke!03:18
holmsernevermind... when I run blkid I get this:  /dev/sda1: ambivalent result (probably more filesystems on the device, use wipefs(8) to see more details)03:18
spiralsJasonn, it looks like it's "gnutls-bin libgnutls-dev libgnutls26"03:18
nmaxchatCan I get help getting my Open Office 3.2 spellcheck working ?03:18
spiralsJasonn: in 10.10 anyway03:18
spiralsJasonn: my best guess is the general IRC support in #freenode, or the project's official forums (more likely)03:18
JasonnThank you :)03:18
rww#freenode isn'03:19
Jake_skullboy: The only way to do this without connecting external of the machine that I know of is to connect your machine direct to net.  But network configurations change so much there is no one way to do it if you are not directly connected03:19
rwwt very good at helping with random ircds :\03:19
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jquest71quit03:20
skullboyshit03:20
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jquest71oops03:20
IdleOneskullboy: language please03:20
stillbourneis there a casper mailing list or something?03:20
alex__this sucks :(03:21
alex__i cant find anything i thoughtbuntu is easy to use03:21
spiralsJasonn: "sudo apt-get install gnutls-bin libgnutls-dev libgnutls26" on 10.1003:21
alex__its nothing works03:21
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kellnola_alex__, uh, can you be more specific?03:21
DaPenguinalex__, what exactly are u trying to do?03:21
alex__kellnola_, i cant get my graphics card to work, my touch pads, my wireless, my brightness, sound03:22
[deXter]So, anyone?03:22
alex__nothing except wired internet will work :(03:22
syrinx_[deXter]: anyone what?03:22
[deXter]syrinx_: Anyone have any idea?03:22
alex__i searched forums, it linked to some code, i dont even know how to use it03:22
DaPenguinalex__, have u tried the restricted drivers?03:23
syrinx_[deXter]: any idea about....?03:23
alex__im in xubuntu, is it there?03:23
[deXter]syrinx_: about the question I asked before?03:23
jtannenbaumupdated to Kernel Linux 2.6.35-28-generic on 10.10, compositing doesn't work, compiz/docky effects gone, etc03:23
DaPenguin!restricted | alex03:23
ubottualex: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:23
syrinx_[deXter]: might want to ask it again, mate03:23
spiralssyrinx_, wait for it.. wait for it... haha03:23
[deXter]syrinx_: My maverick refuses to automount external hard drives (usb) anymore. I end up having to mount it manually and then set the right permissions so that I can access it without root. Any ideas how to fix it back to the default behaviour? Thanks.03:23
Jasonnspirals: THANK YOU <33333303:24
syrinx_spirals: lol03:24
spiralsJasonn did that give you the build deps?03:24
syrinx_you called it03:24
Jasonnspirals: no :(03:24
the_coreterry: you here?03:24
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spiralsJasonn, oh well at least you have something relevant to post to the irc server's forums now.03:24
spirals;)03:24
alex__DaPenguin, no that for formats, doesnt help me03:25
alex__i need drivers03:25
DaPenguin!drivers03:25
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Jasonnspirals: :)) Yepp, or something to fill up lines with, i hope soo many other people suffer with this problem MWAHAHAHAH03:25
rwwubottu: tell GeekyAdam|AFK about away03:25
spiralsJasonn: keep googling that error too, I only scratched the googsurface03:25
ubottuGeekyAdam|AFK, please see my private message03:25
spiralsJasonn: might find a different package that helps03:25
DaPenguinalex__, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedDrivers, try that page03:26
spirals[deXter], if it's a data drive only (no Linux system directories) you should be able to just change ownership of all files to your user03:26
Jasonnspirals: Yeah, anyways, thanks for the help :)03:26
dustin_any of you folks good at configureing tor/tork im haveing trouble with setting it all up :( and desperately need help with it to make my system alittle safer if possible.03:26
GeekyAdam|AFKrww: i got the pm, seems weird for just changing my nick to AFK, but i hear ya03:26
syrinx_dustin_: -_-03:26
DaPenguinalex__, usually it autodetects but sometimes you have to grab them manually03:26
spirals[deXter], or at least the files that you need access to03:27
[deXter]spirals: It's not one particular drive, it's *all* external drives. They're all ntfs btw.03:27
[deXter]spirals: Well all external hard drives; removable drives seem to work fine.03:27
spirals[deXter], are you mounting them through Places menu? I can read/write fine to my ntfs that way03:27
spiralsJasonn, sure thing, if you find out more about implementation details needed on ubuntu come back and ask03:27
[deXter]spirals: Yes that's how it used to be but the problems started when I decided to try a newer version of ntfs-3g. Since then I've uninstallled it and gone back to the default one in the repos but the behaviour hasn't changed back.03:28
dustin_hmm syrinx, ive asked several times and im about at my limits with this tor buisness :( its very hard to get it setup03:28
Jasonnspirals: I actually just found the irc network , so im complaining there, thanks for your help bud03:28
spirals[deXter], aha! that sounds relevant. let's see where the settings are, one sec03:28
spiralsJasonn: perfect!03:28
jospamsis there a way to edit Windows Bootloader from ubuntu03:29
[deXter]Thanks.03:29
taranI can browse a folder name New Folder Imp but cant c it in Disk Utility.03:29
DaPenguindustin_, I run tor, what seems to be the issue?03:29
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jospamsthe bootloader is installed but it just redirects me to grub, I want the timeout to change, so i can atleast boot to windows03:30
JTallisHey, I was here earlier about the Ubuntu Installation. I removed the partition so I now have 100GB unallocated, I believe that's how it should be - right? I also did an md5 checksum on the ISO and they matched. So why is it saying "Could not find the installation files /ubuntu/install/custom-installation03:30
syrinx_dustin_: its in the repositories, i believe03:30
Jake_Anyone here ever work with a multitouch monitor and ubuntu?03:30
DaPenguinjospams, what version of windows?03:30
jospams703:30
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[deXter]jospams: If it's windows XP or below, you can just edit the boot.ini file. Otherwise I'm afraid you'll have to just use a windows live recovery CD (Which is freely downloadable btw.)03:30
alex__DaPenguin, okay i found restricted drivers in xubuntu, its in a different place03:30
spirals[deXter], please see http://b.andre.pagesperso-orange.fr/permissions.html scroll down to last page, 4th to last paragraph. It addresses your specific situation.03:31
alex__but all the other things stillhave a problem. is there a wiki guide for hardware. i remember ubuntu had something like that a long time ago, i can go through steps and fix it03:31
JTallisWhether it was on a CD or DVD I believe is irrelevant as it does autoboot, it's just looking for custom installation files?03:31
dustin_im haveing massive problems it wont work with tork and it wont work without it. not sure how to confgiure it for -unbuntu maverick 10.10 :( im so friggin lost 1sec need to finish this smoke quick penguin :(03:31
jospams[deXter], I have windows installation disk, will that work?03:31
spirals[deXter], it recommends using chown to fix after migrating from a standard ntfs-3g, which if i understand you correctly was the case03:31
[deXter]jospams: Which version of windows again?03:31
DaPenguinalex__, yeah, different ubuntu flavors keep things in different places, one of the things with so many options for how to set up the OS03:31
jospams703:31
syrinx_dustin_: sorry, can't help you03:31
jospamssorry03:31
[deXter]spirals: Yes, that was indeed the case.03:31
DaPenguinjospams, hmm, with xp you could just edit the ini file, 7 does it differently tho03:32
snake_I'm trying to install synapse: node based compositing software. and I'm getting an error in alter's output: "cannot find libalter.so.1." the file is there though.03:32
spirals[deXter], that page (which is quite up to date) does recommend against doing it on windows system files, so I want to clarify again that these are just data drives03:32
[deXter]jospams: Yeah you can use that just boot into it and press Shift+F10 to launch the terminal instead of going thru with the setup.03:32
jospams[deXter], then what03:33
[deXter]spirals: Yeah these are data files primarily for storage.03:33
DaPenguinsnake_, might need to update your library paths, or pass the proper location to ./configure or make if you're rolling from source03:33
[deXter]jospams: Then you'll have to use the bootrec command. But this is going way off topic, you might want to ask in ##windows03:33
spirals[deXter], do you have a terminal open already navigated to a subdirectory of one of the ntfs drives in question?03:33
[deXter]spirals: Yep03:33
dustin_im back penguin03:34
spirals[deXter], ok we're going to test on a single folder, find a folder that has a few files in it and get into its parent folder03:34
jospams[deXter], i have tried bootrec.exe /RebuildBcd and it says I have 0 windows installations, i guess we can blame wubi for that03:34
Jake_Night all03:34
DaPenguindustin_, ok, what was the issue again? tor right?03:34
dustin_see the problem is im very lost so to speak i dled all the stuff set it up and attempted a blind configureation which failed . ya tor and tork03:34
spirals[deXter], then run "sudo chown -R dexter.dexter folder" where dexter is your username and folder is the test folder.03:34
RehanHi guys, I'm using a 500GB HDD and will be installing Win7 and Ubuntu side by side. Could anyone give any recommendations on how big I should make each partition?03:34
unomiHi, I am having some issues testing html5 drag-file-to-browser is this expected?03:34
[deXter]jospams: before you do that you'll have to fix the mbr and then the boot and then rebuild the bcd03:35
jospams[deXter], I tried following instructions here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/92739203:35
dustin_i got no idead to properly install and run it. then id like to run it through TORK<03:35
DaPenguindustin_, ok, you'll need polipo as well03:35
dustin_just dled that could you please help :(03:35
spirals[deXter], after that see if you can do what you're trying to do, in that folder you took ownership of. if so, we'll do it for the whole drive03:35
jospamsoooh03:35
unomirather, is it supposed to work in linux?03:35
jospams[deXter], THX03:35
DaPenguindustin_, you'll also need to start the various daemons, sudo /etc/init.d/tor start and sudo /etc/init.d/polipo start03:36
spiralsdustin_, also try in #tor for tor support03:36
jospams[deXter], I will be back in 10 mins and report results03:36
syrinx_dustin_ , DaPenguin could someone please clear up what exactly TOR is? I often here it associated with some, uh....bad things03:36
[deXter]spirals: Thing is I've already set the permissions for my mount folder so I could already do what I wanted to03:36
[deXter]jospams: cool03:36
[deXter]spirals: But in any case, I'll chown the entire drive and test after a reboot03:37
DaPenguinsyrinx_, it's a distributed proxy network, good at masking your ip03:37
JTalliswell that's strange.03:37
spirals[deXter], no reboot should be necessary to take effect03:37
dustin_its to give yourself annomity surfing etc. so mailware sites cant get ur ip etc.03:37
syrinx_DaPenguin: is it an FOSS project?03:37
DaPenguinsyrinx_, not exactly03:37
JTallisI took out the ubuntu installation disk, and it sitll asks to run it.03:38
JTallisinteresting.03:38
dustin_ive read the tor project spirals and still ive failed so id like a walk through for it if possible :(03:38
spirals[deXter], the goal is to make the automount just work, and based on what you've said, you might need to manually run through and do the recursive chown on the entire drive just once, to rebuild the proper ACL and get automount to behave03:38
syrinx_DaPenguin: sounds like something I'd want to stay far away from03:38
JTallismaybe that's why, hmm03:38
spiralsdustin_, definitely #tor and keep googling, there are dozens of guides, it's offtopic for ubuntu03:38
DaPenguinsyrinx_, it's gets a bad rap as crackers often use it to prevent backtraces of their ips03:39
RobotCowdustin_ -> hello03:39
PolahI couldn't connect to my VPS via FTP or SSH due to my language settings being different from the servers. I've changed my settings to match and I can use SSH now but I can't use FTP still, any help?03:39
dustin_hello robotcow. nice name btw03:39
DaPenguinsyrinx_, but blaming tor for the activities of crackers is like blaming ski mask manufacturers for the activities of bank robbers lol03:39
RobotCowdustin_ -> i missed the convo. so which irc client are you attempting to use tor with?03:39
RehanHi guys, I'm using a 500GB HDD and will be installing Win7 and Ubuntu side by side. Could anyone give any recommendations on how big I should make each partition?03:39
syrinx_DaPenguin: see pm03:40
snake_DaPenguin, yeah it turns out I had to set up some environment variables, though they lacked that information in the included README :P03:40
spiralsRehan, that depends entirely on your use cases for the two operating systems.03:40
Rehanspirals: would you recommend two OS partitions and a 3rd media partition?03:40
spiralsRehan: that depends entirely on your use cases03:41
dustin_thanks spirals but i need someone who actually know's how to configure it. i dont understand why makeing your ip annomymous is a bad thing ????03:41
itachihello03:41
spiralsdustin_ go to #tor channel, they are tor support03:41
holmserI found a thread where someone is having the same problem as I am, but unfortunately none of the fixes on the thread seem to work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1068895&page=303:41
prappl93Okay, there are some YouTube videos that I can only watch in the channel and not on the search page where I found it at. Any suggestions how to fix this or do I just have to use the channel?03:41
bonjoyeeRehan: one swap partition ..if you are going to use hibernation...or you are a bit low on RAM...03:41
spiralsRehan: if you know you want a third data partition, you can make it ntfs as Ubuntu can read/write to it03:42
taranI had OS installed on one disk..Now its grub is deleted.I want to install new OS.but its not permiting03:42
spiralsbonjoyee, the swap partition is taken care of by the installer these days03:42
ActionParsnipRehan: i'd make 10Gb for /, 1 x RAM for swap, 10Gb for /home and the rest NTFS for windows (store your user data on the windows partition but keep configs obviosly in /home)03:42
dustin_oh... i will thanks spirals but robotcow is gonna explain some things to me and dapenguin is as well03:42
dustin_thank all of you folks for answering my rants ;)03:42
RehanActionParsnip: I have 6GB of RAM. So a 6GB swap, which OS refers to '/' ?03:43
ActionParsnipRehan: depends what the ubuntu OS is used for03:43
spiralsRehan: ActionParsnip has a good blueprint for a traditional design but you still haven't told us what you're doing with both systems, it's really hard to say.03:43
bonjoyeespirals: the whole point of using linux for me is that it gives YOU the control!!03:43
ActionParsnipRehan: / is the ubuntu root partition. With 6Gb RAM you can omit swap if you wish (if suspend is not required)03:43
edbian+1 bonjoyee03:43
Rehanspirals: Win7 to be used 90% of the time, Ubuntu to be used just to mess around in from time to time, rename stupid folders that Windows can't handle or delete, etc03:44
[deXter]spirals: Okay so first of all it's no longer auto-mounting, second when I mount it I am able to do all stuff - however - when I try to unmount it I get "umount: /media/blah is not in the fstab (and you are not root)"03:44
RubenAlonzoGreetings everyone03:44
holmserwhen I run wipefs /dev/sda I get this error:  wipefs: error: /dev/sda: appears to contain 'dos' partition table03:44
prappl93Aww.... I went to gnome-terminal and typed in "sudo make me a toilet" and it didn't work... lmao.03:45
RubenAlonzodoes anyone use 10.04 Lucid Lynx? I just downloaded the netbook remix version of that since i think it does not have the unity bar at left as a constant, is this true?03:45
spiralsbonjoyee, that's great but new users should be able to gloss over irrelevant details, especially if they don't know what they want or why03:45
IdleOnerww: you any good with calculus?03:45
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Guest53566hi03:46
prappl93IdleOne, I'm all right with it if you need help03:46
RehanActionParsnip, spirals: I'm not a programmer or anything. Just someone who wants to learn a little about the innerworkings of linux but still having Win7 as my day to day OS. It would be kind of nice to have one partition where I could store all my movies/music/pictures that I could access from either OS but only if it doesn't change very much in terms of how Win7 deals with it03:46
Guest53566hello03:46
spiralsRehan: OK, go with the ActionParsnip plan :)03:46
ActionParsnipRehan: the default is to use 2 partitions, one for data and one for swap, if you use custom partitioning you can make a more detailed file structure03:46
IdleOneprappl93: sorry was just a test between channel ops. appreciate the offer :)03:46
drknzzHi guys! How can i kill wine from a console? Im on irssi at a secondary terminal03:47
edbiandrknzz, killall wine03:47
jasonoHello I updated and it gave me this http://paste.ubuntu.com/585747/ Can anyone please help me get rid of that?03:47
ActionParsnipRehan: install Windows first but do NOT accept the dumb default but instead, install to a portion of the drive space available03:47
spirals[deXter], do sudo umount /media/blah03:47
edbiandrknzz, But it's more likely that you want to kill some other processing that wine forked.  You should look at the output of ps -e   it will show all current processes03:47
spirals[deXter], excuse me that should have been:03:47
RehanActionParsnip: thank you for the constant help. So should I format my drive first, then create a partition for Win7 and install Win7 to that first?03:47
ActionParsnipRehan: the free space will then be available to you when you install Ubuntu and you won't have to do any resing at all03:48
RubenAlonzoDoes 10.04 Lucid Lynx have the Unity icon bar as a constant on the left like Maverick Meerkat?03:48
xangua!gpg | jason03:48
ubottujason: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts03:48
spirals[deXter], sudo umount [mountpoint of blah]. You can't umount a drive that isn't in fstab without referring to its mountpoint03:48
xangua!gprerr | jasono03:48
xangua!gpgerr03:48
ubottuGetting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> »03:48
ActionParsnipRehan: yes install win7 first then when ubuntu is installed the grub loader will manage the dual boot. again, do not just click next like most windows users do03:48
RehanActionParsnip: ok, I can def handle that part. And if I do want a 3rd partition for media only, should I create that partition at the same time I'm creating the win7 one or should I do that in the Ubuntu installer?03:49
[deXter]spirals: Thanks but now how do I make it so that I can unmount as a normal user from nautilus, like how it was before?03:49
prappl93I feel like I'm in The Matrix... someone randomly sent me a message adverting the Calculus room....03:49
jasonoxangua thank you?03:49
spirals[deXter], i'm looking into that03:49
edbianprappl93, I got it too. It's just some spam / troll03:49
spirals[deXter], i don't want to have to tell you to manually edit your fstab03:49
prappl93Figured as much.03:49
spirals[deXter], sec03:50
prappl93Time to +m myself it seems. Lmao03:50
RubenAlonzois it someone named sailorreality?03:50
DaPenguinprappl93, you're getting those too? lol03:50
bonjoyeeprappl93: count me in as well..03:50
RubenAlonzoor close too that?03:50
edbianyes03:50
abahkaiyisahanyone ever use partedmagic ?03:50
RubenAlonzoedbiantha nks03:50
RubenAlonzothanks*03:50
[deXter]abahkaiyisah: What about it?03:50
DaPenguinlooks like someone's running a bot script03:50
abahkaiyisahpartition clone over network03:51
prappl93Crap... I don't know the mode-types that well on here... oh well. Just put up with it.03:51
JTallisI tried to install Wubi, but it says it cannot fine the installation iso.03:51
JTallisWhat the hell is Ubuntu going crazy on every method of installation03:51
razz1whats the command to display hardware info with manufacturer details, lshw just says I got 4gb memory, Is there a way to know the manufacturer name, and other specs of the RAM modules03:51
RubenAlonzoHey all, does 10.04 have that unity icon bar as a constant on the lft like 10.10 does?03:51
bonjoyeeabahkaiyisah: i have used clonezilla for that purpose earlier..03:51
drknzzTo whoever suggested killall wine, it didnt work :S Any more ideas?03:52
abahkaiyisahnever bonjoyee03:52
spirals[deXter], I think I found the proper way: http://b.andre.pagesperso-orange.fr/usermap.html  "usermap", scroll down to the Linux-specific directions. That's the official howto03:52
xanguaRubenAlonzo: no03:52
JTallisstrangely enough, according to the drive I installed wubi on, it's found.03:52
RubenAlonzoxangua thank you03:52
RehanActionParsnip: one other question if you don't mind -- If I choose not to have a media partition, will I still be able to easily access the media stored on the Win7 partition thru Ubuntu? And can I make shortcuts to it in the 'Places' menu?03:52
RubenAlonzobe back ina bit after dual boot of 10.0403:52
spirals[deXter], also see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1399595 for context03:53
DaPenguinRehan, yes, you'll just need to add a mountpoint for it03:53
prappl93How long after 11.04 is released do you suggest waiting to avoid the server "traffic-jam" from multiple access to the repos?03:53
edbianprappl93, A couple days03:54
brandon420prappl93, a month?03:54
brandon420lol03:54
bonjoyeeRehan: its advisable to have a third partition..and store all user files on it..that way you have the flexibility to format the windows part at will in case of some issues...03:54
RehanDaPenguin: is that difficult? I'm looking to have the most "normal" Win7 setup possible, while also having Ubuntu03:54
brandon420there are alot of people that use ubuntu, and not all will update on the same days.03:54
prappl93Is anyone else having that YouTube problem or does my computer just hate me? Lol03:54
razz1is is better to go with 32 bit and PAE or 64 bit to use more RAM03:54
DaPenguinRehan, wubi install or standalone partition?03:54
edbianrazz1, oh 64 bit of course03:54
brandon420prappl93, what problem? browser?03:54
RehanDaPenguin: going to do a stand-alone i think03:55
ActionParsnipRehan: it will be available in the places menu, you don't need a media partition. Ubuntu has ntfs read and write access, hence the small partition for /home03:55
prappl93I'm on Firefox and on some YouTube videos it won't load them unless I'm in the user's channel03:55
spiralsprappl93, or just add a local Ubuntu archive mirror to your Software Sources03:55
holmserIs there a way to re write my partition table?03:55
brandon420wtf03:55
brandon420prappl93, try chrome?03:55
brandon420i only use chrome, and never have problems03:55
DaPenguinRehan, ok, in that case shouldn't be too bad, you can usually mount it through the gui without too many issues03:55
ActionParsnipRehan: you only need a little space to store emails and temp internet files but your porn, images, justin beiber MP3s will be easily stored on the ntfs part03:56
RehanDaPenguin: is there an alternative with fewer issues? Thank you03:56
edbianhahahaha03:56
ActionParsnip:D03:56
RehanActionParsnip: Justin Bieber AAC bro, need that lossless ;)03:56
edbianI keep all my justin beiber MP3's in FLAC on ext4 raid603:56
ActionParsnipRehan: sounds same to me mate :)03:56
brandon420hahah03:56
Rehanhaha03:57
spiralsActionParsnip, What is the most secure way to store my justin beiber oggs? I don't want my children accidentally finding them03:57
LinuxGuy2009Is there a way to get software-center to work with a DVD repository set and not throw an error? Its an offline machine and I would like to be able to use the nice software center. The error I get is "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.".03:57
brandon420its not a junstin beiber mp3, if its in flac....03:57
DaPenguinRehan, or if you want it to automount you can set it up in /etc/fstab. it's kind of a pain if you're not familiar with linux drive mounting but you only have to do it once.03:57
razz1edbian: 8GB, year ago I tried ubuntu 64, wasted lot of time trying to fix stuff, you think it's mature now. I really dont want to spend my precious free time fixing silly issues. Are there many ubuntu 64 users here, please if you are using 64. let me know if it is worth the hassle.03:57
ActionParsnipspirals: store them in a folder owned by your user then make them their own account and make them NOT members of admin, OGGs are safe03:57
edbianrazz1, It's much better now.03:57
spiralsActionParsnip, Woot. Thanks03:57
brandon420spirals, external hdd, encrypted, and set not to remember the pass when accessed03:57
RehanDaPenguin: I see, and that would make it more of a "vanilla" Win7 install?03:57
edbianrazz1, I am not personally using Ubuntu 64 bit03:58
spiralsrazz1, there's an official Adobe Flash plugin available in beta for 64bit now03:58
edbianspirals, He's talking about 64 Bit Ubuntu, not 64 bit flash specifically)03:58
DaPenguinRehan, basically, it will attach the windows partition to a specific directory in your filesystem so you can access windows files from ubuntu03:58
spiralsedbian, but flash was the #1 pain point for 64bit ubuntu for most of its existence ;)03:58
holmserIs there a way to re write my partition table?03:58
JTallisCan anyone help me out? It seems to be a common issue that everyone is refusing to help with.03:58
edbianspirals, I see.  Never knew that03:58
razz1spirals: edbian: yes flash, it's a pain in the neck. had lot of trouble with it.03:59
spiralsedbian, people were doing all kinds of ridiculous workarounds ndiswrapper style03:59
razz1spirals: are you using 6403:59
spiralsrazz1: no03:59
edbianholmser, To what end?  You can use gparted on a live CD to edit the partitions however you want. (which implicitly edits the partition table)03:59
micromatikalCan anyone recommend a decent hardware firewall for a rack with just a couple servers in it?  Looking for a lower cost, possibly older option.  Know it's off topic lol, but figured I'd ask :)03:59
edbianspirals, Is it better now?  Or are you talking about present day workarounds03:59
spiralsedbian, yeah it's better now, adobe supports the platform04:00
RehanActionParsnip, DaPenguin: So if I was to do a media partition, what would be a good size for the Win7 OS partition on a 500GB HDD? 20GB?04:00
edbianspirals, Excellent!04:00
prappl93Okay, what is the apt-get install for chrome? Lol04:00
razz1spirals: edbian: looks like you are the only two with opinions on 64 and you are not even running 64. not really inspiring confidence04:00
holmseredbian: long story short, windows wasn't booting, ran fixmbr & fixboot, now my sda1 is all screwed up.  testdisk detects the partition as fat, gparted sees it as ext404:01
holmserI'm at a loss.04:01
edbianrazz1, hahaha,  The truth is out there neo.  Keep looking04:01
DaPenguinRehan, i'd reccomend a bit more than that for 7, I have this machine split with 300 gigs for ubuntu and 300 gigs for win 704:01
holmserbeen working on this for the last 4 hours to no avail04:01
ActionParsnipRehan: depends how much stuff you have, Win7 needs at least 10Gb to install, then you have all your apps04:01
bonjoyeeholmser: you must look into sfdisk04:01
spiralsrazz1: 64 isn't a big deal anymore, there are some library issues if you're developing with specific tools, I can't comment on those but you should google for "ubuntu 64" and your technology if you have concerns.04:01
RehanActionParsnip: thanks04:01
ActionParsnipRehan: if you plan your partitions, you can be like charlie sheen and WIN04:01
edbianholmser, Is testdisk a windows utility?  Besides these software packages reporting different things, how is it 'messed up'  does Ubuntu boot?  Does windows boot?04:01
holmsergnu testdisk04:02
razz1edbian: one thing you learn after using linux is to stay away from unstable stuff. Takes too much time to fix.04:02
RehanActionParsnip: haha. ok so i guess my next question is -- if I screw up and my partitions aren't the right size for whatever reason -- is there any going back 6 months from now or do I have to start all over?04:02
holmseredbian: ubuntu doesn't boot.04:02
edbianrazz1, Hahah, exact opposite for me.  The messier the better :)  I am willing to spend the time though.04:02
edbianholmser, With what errors?04:03
DaPenguinRehan, there are ways to nondestructively adjust partitions04:03
spiralsrazz1: if you have questions about using specific software on 64-bit ubuntu, you're likely to get specific answers, but the general answer is "it just works"04:03
holmserbob__: I ran e2fsck from gparted already.  no dice04:03
holmserwhoops04:03
DaPenguinRehan, gparted is pretty good at that04:03
ActionParsnipRehan: you can resize in gparted in live cd04:03
Rehanthank you guys04:03
Rehanyou're being very patient04:03
holmserI found a thread where someone is having the same problem as I am, but unfortunately none of the fixes on the thread seem to work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1068895&page=304:03
ActionParsnipRehan: id just use one big partition for windows so you can make all primary partitions04:04
holmsermuch easier than explaining it again04:04
RehanActionParsnip: ok and then do that method that DaPenguin recommended about making a mount point ?04:04
DaPenguinthe limit is still 4 primary partitions if i remember correctly04:04
edbianDaPenguin, Yeah.  It's a limit enforced by the standards of physical hdds04:05
edbianDaPenguin, Probably not gonna change for a long time04:05
ActionParsnipRehan: the mount point is a folder, I'd just get the OSes installed for now and worry about stuff like thatlater04:05
jiltdil i have a partiton named Data i want to permanntly mount it means after restartting system it is automaticallly mount hel pme to do this as m new one so i cannot understood so much documents04:05
razz1spirals: looks like majority are still on 32. atleast thats my feeling I get from his room. I will be sticking to 32. see how it goes. I have not done a fresh install since 2007. I am happy with my setup, never had a issue. will keep running it that way.04:05
DaPenguinRehan, linux deals with drives differently than windows does04:05
RehanActionParsnip: yeah, I know, I'm overthinking it. I just want to make sure I know what I'm doing while someone who knows as much as you is around :P04:05
bonjoyee!fstab > jiltdil04:06
ubottujiltdil, please see my private message04:06
spiralsrazz1: if you have under 4GB RAM it makes little difference for most cases. If you have over 4GB, it's perfectly safe to go with 6404:06
spiralsrazz1: 64bit is well known to be mature by now, it's just not a big deal for most people04:06
speedrunnerG55hello fellow linux ussers04:06
DaPenguinrazz1, i run 64 on my box and haven't run into any issues yet04:06
edbianspeedrunnerG55, hello04:06
razz1DaPenguin: good to hear from a 64 user.04:07
spiralsrazz1: if you already have a 32bit install, probably not worth reinstalling for 64bit. I'm in that boat myself, I have a 2008 32bit install that has been upgraded in place. I do have 4GB of RAM but it's not worth reinstalling the OS to access half a gig, at the moment.04:07
[deXter]razz1: Well me and all my mates and practically everyone I know in person who uses GNU/Linux uses the 64 bit version. I don't see any reason to still use the 32 bit version..04:07
DaPenguinrazz1, yeah, 2 years ago 64 bit had all kinds of issues but these days it's pretty much just as stable as 3204:07
spiralsrazz1: like they say, it's just us old-timers on 32bit now04:08
edbian[deXter], If you don't have 64 bit hardware might be a good reason...04:08
[deXter]edbian: Yes, of course. :)04:08
ActionParsnipRehan: I'm in here a fair bit and other users will help too04:08
kbono.o04:08
bonjoyeerazz1: i have been using 64bit since intrepid...now i am using debian stable(64bit)...04:08
DingGGuhow to install 86x libraries on 64x?04:08
kbonhi04:08
kbonC:04:08
DingGGuhow to install or apt-get x86 libraries on x64?04:08
ActionParsnipRehan: Windows is unable to access Ext4 as it sucks so you can move data between the OSes using the NTFS04:09
bonjoyeeDingGGu: ia32-libs04:09
spiralsDingGGu, look for packages with "32" in the name specifically. "apt-cache search lib | grep 32" etc.04:09
razz1spirals: exactly same, I have a clone of my 32, will try 64 and if I have any issues. can revert to 32.04:09
ActionParsnipDingGGu: use: packages.ubuntu.com04:09
DingGGucan't found libssl for x8604:09
spiralsrazz1: sounds like a good plan.04:09
razz1last few replies were reassuring, thank you all.04:10
spiralsI only wish I could upgrade in-place to 64.04:10
DaPenguinrazz1, just about every app has a 64 bit version these days anyway04:10
RehanActionParsnip: ok that last message confuses me. Does that mean I should have a separate media partition or does it mean if I install NTFS-3G I'll be fine?04:10
DingGGubonjoyee: what is ia32-libs?04:10
spiralsDingGGu, it's the main x86 libraries  you asked for.04:10
razz1now how do I get the memory module details in ubuntu. not just the size, all the details04:10
DaPenguinDingGGu, 32 bit x86 libraries04:10
bonjoyeeDingGGu: those are 32bit libs that allow you to run 32bit apps on 64bit os..04:10
holmserfuck it.  reinstall time.04:10
ActionParsnipRehan: just keep your data files on the ntfs and ubuntu will be able to access them just fine04:10
Rehanok04:10
jtannenbaumstill have the issue: updated to Kernel Linux 2.6.35-28-generic on 10.10, compositing doesn't work, compiz/docky effects gone, etc04:11
RehanActionParsnip: thanks. sorry about so many questions04:11
ActionParsnipRehan: that's why I suggest a 10Gb home as most of your data will be on the ntfs04:11
DingGGui just run utorrentserver on x6404:11
ActionParsnipRehan: it's cool04:11
edbianjtannenbaum, compiz --replace&    what does it say?04:11
DingGGuthey said "if you x64, you just put x86 lib"04:11
DaPenguinActionParsnip, that's something i still need to do is migrate my /home to it's own partition lol04:11
spiralsrazz1: lshw04:11
ActionParsnipDingGGu: yeah put the .so file in /usr/lib3204:12
jtannenbaumedbian:04:12
razz1DaPenguin: when I start on linux, time did not matter, fixing stuff was fun and a learning experience. now time is too precious to waste it on such stuff04:12
jtannenbaumedbian: sorry paste didn't work04:12
edbianjtannenbaum,:04:12
edbianjtannenbaum, That's ok04:12
ActionParsnipDaPenguin: set it up at install time ;)04:12
bonjoyeeDingGGu: then you need the ia32-libs package..04:12
jtannenbaumedbian: [1] 1158104:12
spiralsrazz1: like "sudo lshw -C MEMORY" also "sudo dmidecode"04:12
DaPenguinActionParsnip, yeah, that would have made sense lol04:12
jtannenbaumedbian: also my screen goes bonkers for a bit and then returns to Boring Mode04:12
edbianjtannenbaum, composting is working again then?04:12
jtannenbaumnope04:12
edbianjtannenbaum, but no errors in the terminal?04:13
jtannenbaumactually there were04:13
DaPenguinActionParsnip, i'll just split my existing one and rsync it over when i get around to it lol04:13
jtannenbaumlet me pastebin04:13
edbianjtannenbaum, Yeah, need to see those buddy04:13
spiralsrazz1: actually I think what you want is faster with just dmidecode04:13
jtannenbaumedbian: they appeared out of nowhere when I pressed the up button in the terminal window. Here it is; sorry for the highlighting: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/359754/04:14
bonjoyeejtannenbaum: you must also look into Xorg.0.log under /var/log04:14
DaPenguinActionParsnip, this was originally a wubi install I migrated so i didn't really think about it at the time04:14
edbianjtannenbaum, reading...04:14
edbianjtannenbaum, Graphics card?04:14
jtannenbaumI can never remember the commands to get info like that04:14
razz1spirals: lshw does not offer all the details, I want the manufacturer details, so that I know what to buy to upgrade04:15
ActionParsnipDaPenguin: clean install when natty arrives and do it there :)04:15
edbianjtannenbaum, Do you not remember?  (lspci -k)  Please list the driver / module as well as the card.04:15
debiankdeanyone leaving ubuntu because of unity and going kde?04:15
Scott1gotta question about my DVD drive if there's a queue for questions.04:15
spiralsrazz1, did you check "sudo dmidecode" - i get vendor info for mine there04:16
DaPenguinActionParsnip, ugh, hate clean installs, have a lot of source compiled stuff I really don't want to have to go grab again04:16
brandon420DaPenguin, i feel your pain.04:17
jtannenbaumedbian: is this enough info: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/359756/04:17
edbianjtannenbaum, yes04:17
spiralsrazz1: correction: I don't actually see vendor in dmidecode for my DIMM slots. Only for other slots. Hmm.04:17
razz1bonjoyee: I an thinking of moving to Debian soon, sick of ubuntu pushing stuff out prematurely without fixing all bugs. whats your opinion.04:17
ActionParsnipDaPenguin: i see, i always clean install. Less problems with old fluff hanging around04:17
spiralsrazz1: have fun reimplementing all the usability tweaks on top of vanilla debian, if it's a desktop system. (if it's a server, debian is fantastic)04:18
debiankderazzl: I switched to Debian KDE on my desktop just fine.04:18
spiralsrazz1: (speaking having managed dozens of debian installations on server, a few debian desktops, and a bunch of ubuntu desktops)04:18
xangua!ot04:19
bonjoyeerazz1: theres very little difference in the working...but a huge one in principles...04:19
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:19
Scott1I need ubuntu support!04:19
brandon420Scott1, just ask the question, lol.04:19
brandon420if anyone can help, they will.04:20
Scott1My DVD player took in my movie DVD. It won't acknowledge it has it. The eject command doesn't work. Nor does the button.04:20
razz1spirals: when upgrading memory, what are the things that I need to keep in mind. I am trying to pick similar dimms as the ones I already have04:20
brandon420sounds like a problem with you drive, Scott104:20
edbianjtannenbaum, join #intel-gfx with me04:20
Scott1It was fine yesterday.04:20
razz1bonjoyee: absolutely agree, principles matter. sold me on it.04:21
ActionParsnipScott1: try:  sudo eject /dev/sr004:21
spiralsrazz1: to be completely honest, I would go into the case and physically observe it, if you don't have an email from the vendor that you bought it from (sales receipt) to go back and refer to.04:21
spiralsrazz1: i always try to match identically. other than that, you need to match *timing* and *type*.04:21
Scott1it says it was successful04:21
Scott1it wasn't04:21
ActionParsnipScott1: failing that, grab a paperclip and straighten it and shove it in the tiny hole on the drive to eject it04:21
razz1spirals: I know it's a gskill one not sure about timing04:22
Scott1Funny. I can't friggin find a paperclip. I came here after I gave up. :)04:22
brandon420haha04:22
spiralsrazz1: digging for timing, sec04:22
bonjoyeerazz1: i was tired of the frequent changes ("ubuntufications" i call it) made to upstream packages that work perfectly without those..04:22
brandon420Scott1, anything small will work04:22
Scott1Ah. I'll reboot. Maybe the bios will magically fix something.04:22
brandon420toothpick, stable04:22
ActionParsnipScott1: anything that will fit is acceptable04:22
brandon420staple*04:22
the_corehi all I have a newbie question,can someone please help me install FF404:23
DaPenguinScott1, do you have an old keyboard laying around?04:23
Scott1A friend came over today and helped me clean. I can't find *anything* small. lol04:23
ActionParsnip!ff4 | the_core04:23
ubottuthe_core: Firefox 4 is the current stable version of Firefox. Current versions of Ubuntu do not have it (see !latest), but there is an unofficial and unsupported PPA that you can use by running the following command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox04:23
Scott1DaP, yes04:23
brandon420tear it apart, there is something small in it04:23
spiralsrazz1: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6659527&postcount=6 for a method to get latency/timing info04:23
DaPenguinScott1, if you pull off the spacebar you should find exactly what you need :)04:23
spiralsrazz1: it involves installing 1 package from ubuntu repos, loading a kernel module then running a command to view the info04:24
Scott1 Got it. Thanks! Now I want to put it back in to watch my movie, but I don't dare. :)04:25
Scott1bye all04:26
owen1__can i use usb-creator and put debian on it?04:26
razz1spirals: thanks, trying it now04:27
spiralsrazz1: me too, curious :)04:27
ActionParsnipowen1__: should be ok, if not then use unetbootin04:28
spiralsrazz1, boo, decode-dimms doesn't see anything at all for me.04:28
spiralshopefully you have a better result.04:28
owen1__ActionParsnip: installing the netbootin. thanks04:28
rwwDebian ISOs are dd-able to USB sticks. If you tried the right channel, they'd tell you that ;)04:29
razz1spirals: i got: Number of SDRAM DIMMs detected and decoded: 004:30
spiralsrazz1: it's more obnoxious, but if you reboot and select "memtest" in grub menu, you get complete info there04:30
spiralsrazz1: same, i think the 2008 release of decode-dimms utility doesn't work with modern systems04:31
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spiralsrazz1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843760 shows a SS of what grub's memtest looks like and what to look for for timings04:31
spiralsi would sure like to find out how to do this from the terminal though.04:32
DaPenguinspirals, and lshw doesn't give you manufacturer info?04:33
razz1spirals: I will just boot in to win and run pc-wizard software, its really good.04:34
spiralsrazz1: check grub's memtest option first, should be faster04:34
spiralsif you're going to reboot anyway.04:34
razz1spirals: will do, thanks for the info04:35
spiralsDaPenguin, for me it shows Manufacturer0 for DIMM0, etc. ;(04:35
spiralsrazz1: you're welcome04:35
DaPenguinspirals, hmm, mine gives me full info in the bank sections04:35
spiralsDaPenguin, no doubt performance is specific to the motherboard and/or DIMM manufacturer.04:35
DaPenguinspirals, yeah, probably04:36
spiralsDaPenguin, I'm using "sudo lshw -C MEMORY" for what it's worth.04:36
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DaPenguinspirals, try sudo lshw >> lshw.txt, then search for "bank" in the text file04:37
DaPenguinspirals, how i did mine anyway, your mileage may vary of course lol04:38
spiralsDaPenguin, yeah that drills down to the same info that I got with -C MEMORY04:38
spiralsthanks though!04:38
DaPenguinyeah, figured04:38
spiralsI think memtest86+ is the current solution. just annoying that it requires a boot.04:39
spiralsor am i missing something about memtest04:39
DaPenguinspirals, not that i know of04:40
DaPenguinspirals, and I'm starting to have doubts about my laptop manufacturer as it appears they installed 2 different brands of RAM in the same machine...04:41
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DaPenguineither that or lshw is on crack...04:42
spiralsDaPenguin, What in hades....04:42
spiralsPerhaps it's half soldered, half slotted04:42
bonjoyeeDaPenguin: if you have the option.. try cpu-z on windows..that will give the best idea of what memory you are using..04:43
DaPenguinbonjoyee, yeah, just don't feel like rebooting lol04:43
spiralsI think we've identified a niche for a new linux app.04:43
spiralsor someone to take over i2c-tools04:44
DaPenguinhttp://pastebin.com/uf0UBCAW, see what you make of that04:44
jerm_word04:45
spiralsDaPenguin, yeah yours is less broken than mine http://pastebin.com/0kzJpyxP04:45
NDROfTheLinedoes anybody know how i can help test drm-next kernel code04:46
spiralsDaPenguin, that does look like 2 slots eh? why on earth would the vendor mix memory mfg04:47
DaPenguinspirals, lol, was just looking at mine, think the hynix stuff is the actual system ram, betting it's reading the expansion slots as having actual ram for some reason04:47
spiralsDaPenguin, so it is the half-soldered case then04:47
spirals?04:48
DaPenguinspirals, considering this machine only has 4gb of ram, and that's showing 6 I think that's what's going on04:48
bob55433Anyone around who can help with a busted 10.04 installation?04:48
spiralsDaPenguin, yeah - 2 soldered and a 4 card04:49
spiralserr04:49
ActionParsnipbob55433: please give details04:49
spiralsnow i'm confused. yeah wacky :D04:49
DaPenguinmeh, it's fine as long as the system doesn't try to address non-existant memory lol04:50
bob55433Ok, well I was installing LAMP using a package and it started uninstalling ubuntu desktop, so I (foolishly) crashed out and now i only have command line access04:51
bob55433I am using live cd at the mo04:52
ActionParsnipbob55433: run: sudo apt-get -f install04:52
ActionParsnipbob55433: you can remove ubuntu-desktop package, it is a metapackage only04:52
bob55433the main problem is that i no longer have connection to the repos04:52
ActionParsnipbob55433:  you may still be able to run the command04:53
bob55433I've been using aptitude and can identify teh missing packages, but get the 'temporarily unavailable' error04:53
bob55433Yep I've tried that command - no joy04:53
ActionParsnipbob55433: then use a wired connection and it should be ok04:54
Shuujin96test04:54
Shuujin96test04:54
restore_f2hello04:54
bob55433It is currently a wired connection, can't get a ping of anything, not even the network04:55
bonjoyeeShuujin96: tested O.K04:55
ActionParsnipbob55433: try: sudo dhclient3 eth004:55
restore_f2I added a shortcut using F2 key but now I want to get F2 back to rename files. How can I restore it?04:55
owen1__i am installing netinst usb on thinkpad x61 and get a message about missing wireless firmwae - iwlwifi-3945. googling found this - http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/all/firmware-iwlwifi/download04:56
owen1__what am i suppose to do with this file?04:57
bob55433ActionParsnip: Ok, so I'll have to grab a laptop and reconnect here so i can quite the live cd... back in a mo04:57
ActionParsnipowen1__: try: dpkg -S iwlwifi-394504:57
DaPenguinspirals, ok, i'm an idiot, was thinking of my desktop, this machione does in fact have 6gb RAM lol, so yeah, 2 gb soldered and a 4gb card lol04:57
owen1__ActionParsnip: so first continue the install without it and when i am done i can do that?04:57
ActionParsnipowen1__: mixing debian debs and ubuntu debs isn't advised nor supported04:58
restore_f2!shortcuts04:58
ubottuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts04:58
owen1__ActionParsnip: oops. i am on debian04:58
ActionParsnipowen1__: then ask in #debian04:59
owen1__ActionParsnip: wrong channel..sorry04:59
ActionParsnipowen1__: this is #ubuntu for ubuntu support04:59
ActionParsnip:)04:59
restore_f2What package is linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?05:02
ActionParsniprestore_f2: it is the linux-headers-yourkernelhere   e.g.  linux-headers-2.32.67-generic05:03
ActionParsniprestore_f2: the command will resolve itself appropriately for you05:03
restore_f2ActionParsnip: yeah is it necessary to compile stuff?05:03
restore_f2like sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) libgtk2.0-dev libssl-dev cmake05:04
bonjoyeerestore_f2: mostly to compile/recompile kernel modules..05:05
sheena1hey all. I'm struggling to fix a sound problem on 10.04. i've tried a few things, but nothing seems to help.05:05
brophatsomeone was here last night helping me to get my wifi working but now wifi does not show up at all can someone help to try to get my wifi to show up again05:06
restore_f2sheena1: describe the problem05:06
restore_f2bonjoyee: may I pm?05:07
sheena1restore_f2: I have no sound at all. lspci shows my sound card, but aplay does not. It also doesnt show up in sound pref's under Hardware. i've reinstalled alsamixer, and tried a couple other random things. still no sound :(05:07
DaPenguinbrophat, what does ifconfig show?05:07
bonjoyeerestore_f2: i am not that good at compiling stuff...so please keep it in the channel if possible..05:07
brophatDaPenguin let me see05:08
bonjoyeesheena1: did it work before?05:08
DaPenguinbrophat, cat it to a pastebin05:08
brophatok05:08
brophatthanks05:08
restore_f2ActionParsnip bonjoyee: I want to play with xhydra and I am following this guide to compile it http://angger-kaboel.net/linux/installing-thc-hydra-5-9-on-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-with-ssl-support/05:08
sheena1bonjoyee: i've been running various versions of ubuntu on this laptop for 3+ years, had the occasional sound-gone issue that a reboot resolved.. it was working last night. it's possible i've done an update since then..05:09
restore_f2I just dont know why I need linux headers05:09
DaPenguinbrophat, basically i'm trying to see if your system is even seeing the card05:09
brophatDaPenguin http://pastebin.com/ecYQPXA805:09
restore_f2can you explani05:09
brophatok05:09
bonjoyeesheena1: first check all the settings in alsamixer...for any obvious mistakes..else post more info about your sound hardware..05:10
sheena1bonjoyee: can you tell me which settings and how to check?05:10
DaPenguinbrophat, ok, so the system is at least seeing it05:10
brophatyeah05:10
restore_f2anyway ill test it in virtualbox first :)05:11
DaPenguinbut i'm guessing the network manager isn't05:11
bonjoyeesheena1: open a terminal...type alsamixer ..then check the levels for each output..also check it they are not muted,,,05:11
brophatcorrect05:11
brophatDapenguin yes correct05:11
brophatsomething we did last night05:11
sheena1bonjoyee: When I do that, i see one output. It is set to full, and i read that there should be a green or grey box beneath it to designate if it's muted.. i dont see it there. i did make sure it was set to 100%. If i show all, i see one for output and one for input. still just the one output though..05:12
sheena1bonjoyee: can i paste links here?05:12
brophatDaPenguin so what do you think?05:13
DaPenguinbrophat, you could always try iwconfig to bring it online05:13
brophatok05:13
bonjoyeesheena1: please pastebin the output of "sudo lspci | grep -i audio" and "aplay -l" here05:13
brophatDaPenguin but why would the network manager not see it?05:14
DaPenguinbrophat, that i'm not sure of. i usually run most stuff out of a console.05:14
sheena1bonjoyee: http://pastebin.com/WK0rMpLq05:14
brophatok05:14
sheena1i also included the lspci output on my hardware05:14
bob55433ActionParsnip: there's quite a bit of data there and can't cut and paste so this is gonna be slow :) - DHCPDISCOVER on eht0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 [new line] HCPOFFER of 192.168.1.66 from 192.168.1.254 [new line] DHCPREQUEST of 192.168.1.66 on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 [new line] DHCPACK of 192.168.1.66 from 192.168.1.254 [new line] bound to 192.68.1.66 -- renewal in 38328 seconds.05:15
DaPenguinbob55433, try pastebininit, greatest utility ever lol05:16
brophatDaPenguin i am planing on getting another wifi card, do you think the network manager will see that?05:16
ActionParsnipbob55433: then you have an address, you can now access the repos05:16
bonjoyeesheena1: is this a laptop or desktop? also is this a 6 channel audio card? whats the model no for this computer?05:16
brophatwell the network manager sees it but the card is not detecting any wireless networks05:17
sheena1bonjoyee: its a laptop. Toshiba Satellite u300. sorry,  I don't know how many channels it has. is there a way to find out? i can google it..05:17
brophatthe wifi card must be turned off05:17
joakoHow do I determine what Ubuntu version I've installed? The closest thing I can find is /etc/debian_version...05:17
ActionParsnipjoako: run: lsb_release -a05:17
bob55433can you clarify ActionP - fairly noobish here... what do i need to do with those ips?05:17
DaPenguinbrophat, do you know the essid of the network you're trying to connect to?05:17
ubuntuHi, I'm looking for a bit of help fixing grub. I was upgrading to natty and I think the mistake I made was accidentally replacing the existing grub.cfg file with some default one. Would my existing one have been backed up somewhere? I'm currently using a live version off my usb drive05:17
ActionParsnipsheena1: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh05:18
brophatDaPenguin isnt that the password?05:18
ActionParsnipubuntu: natty support is in #ubuntu+105:18
brophatyeah I do05:19
brophatssid you mean?05:19
sheena1ActionParsnip: Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6c8d532104d3d5b61376aa0067063a85301b86da05:19
sheena1Please inform the person helping you.05:19
DaPenguinbrophat, yeah05:19
saptarshihi05:19
brophatyeah i know that05:19
`greenlightcan anyone suggest a good screen casting tool for ubuntu 10.1005:19
saptarshii am using 10.1005:19
DaPenguinbrophat, it could be your router has name broadcast off. try connecting manually and see if it can find it05:20
unomiActionParsnip, you have any thoughts on why drag-to-upload isn't working for me in either ff4 or Chrome? Xfce4 / Thunar if it matters05:20
terryubuntu: sudo grub-setup05:20
saptarshican anyone tell how to get rid of entering the password every time i open synaptic??05:20
terryI think05:20
brophatDaPenguin how do i connect manually05:20
ActionParsnipsheena1: add: options snd-hda-intel model=ref position_fix=1     to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf    then reboot05:20
terry!grub2 | ubuntu05:20
ubottuubuntu: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub205:20
ActionParsnipunomi: not sure05:21
brophatDaPenguin no other networks are showing up either05:21
brophatso it is not that05:21
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Danielcg25I'm running Ubuntu via a USB stick. I need to clone the two HDDs I have plugged in. How do I do this?05:21
brophatthere are tons around here i am in an apartment complex05:21
ActionParsnipsheena1: actually use:    modprobe snd_hda_intel model=toshiba probe_mask=105:21
unomiActionParsnip, damn :) tried http://www.plupload.com/example_queuewidget.php and http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/imageUploader/ to no avail05:22
ruanif i try to remove libcups2, it wants to remove ALL of my other packages. how can i remove it without this issue?05:22
brophatDaPenguin therefore it is something with the card something we did last night05:22
sheena1ActionParsnip: add that modprobe.... to the file you said before?05:22
ruan!info libcups205:22
ubottulibcups2 (source: cups): Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - Core library. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.4-6ubuntu2.3 (maverick), package size 220 kB, installed size 464 kB05:22
ruansee, it's optional!05:22
DaPenguinbrophat, hmm, not sure how to do it from the gui, but you can use iwconfig and try to force connect05:22
Danielcg25So how do I clone my drives? Ubuntu is running from a USB drive05:23
brophatDaPenguin   iwconfig interface [essid X]05:23
unomiActionParsnip, nevermind! just for kicks I started up nautilus - and dragging from that actually works!05:23
brophatis that correct?05:23
unomikeep up the good work =)05:23
DaPenguinbrophat, yes, where X is the network name05:23
dianubuntu05:23
joakoI've setup Ubuntu 10.10 and I can see it on the network, but when I try to access it I get a password error. I can SSH with the same user & password. Is there something I need to configure in Samba?05:24
brophatDaPenguin what is interface?05:24
DaPenguinbrophat, wlan0 in your case05:24
brophatok now how do i find out network name?05:24
bonjoyeesheena1: you could add "options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba" to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and then reboot...05:24
SpurianIn Terminal, is there a command like Windows CMD's "Start" command to launch a process without waiting for it? Thanks05:24
sheena1ActionParsnip: bonjoyee: I added it to the end of the file. i'll reboot now05:25
DaPenguinbrophat, it's the ssid of the network, for example "linksys"05:25
ruanSpurian: what exactly do you mean? you can run a process in the background05:25
brophatok05:25
DaPenguinbrophat, it's whatever the broadcast name of the router is05:25
Spurianruan, I want to edit a file with gedit but still continue typing other commands in terminal05:26
ruanSpurian: gedit file &05:26
ruanSpurian: im gonna test that05:26
bob55433ActionParsnip: can you point me towards the next step in getting connected with that data? not really sure what it means :)05:26
ruanSpurian: [command] &05:27
ruanSpurian: & runs it in the background05:28
Spurianruan, I just tested it and it works.  Thank you!05:28
sheenaActionParsnip: bonjoyee: back from reboot. no change?05:28
ruanSpurian: and if you need to bring it back to the terminal, use "fg"05:29
dooglusActionParsnip: when you said "sheena1: actually use:    modprobe snd_hda_intel..." did you mean to add that to a file, or run it as a command?05:29
DaPenguinbrophat, ok, if that doesn't work try this http://pastebin.com/abtr7qX6, it's one of 2 scripts i have for enabling/disabling my wireless card. that's the enable one05:30
Spurianruan,  very cool05:30
bonjoyeesheena: what did you add to  alsa-base.conf05:30
sheenabonjoyee: modprobe snd_hda_intel model=toshiba probe_mask=105:30
ruanthere is also another option: "screen", however it is only needed if you're using the processes05:30
bob55433actionp: ok i get it, connection is restored... onwards05:30
ruanin the terminal05:31
DaPenguinbrophat, the disable one is identical except the boolean value at the end is false05:31
brophatok05:31
bonjoyeesheena: its "options snd_hda_intel model=toshiba probe_mask=1"05:31
brophatDaPenguin I did the command in the terminal and it went through but i don't see it listed in my network manager05:31
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sheenabonjoyee: rebooting again. fixed.05:32
ActionParsnipdooglus: ad it to the file05:32
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DaPenguinbrophat, hmm, give me a moment, doing some research05:33
dooglusActionParsnip: I don't see any lines starting with 'modprobe' in any files in that directory05:33
ActionParsnipdooglus: source: http://www.matusiak.eu/numerodix/blog/index.php/2007/10/31/gutsy-on-the-toshiba-u300/05:33
ActionParsnipdooglus: you won't, those are the options to be used by default when modules are loaded05:33
dooglusActionParsnip: that colon means it's refering to the following line, not the previous one05:34
dooglusie. he's saying it's fixed by running the modprobe command, or adding the 'options' line to the config file05:34
sheenabonjoyee: back, no apparent change05:35
bonjoyeesheena: now check alsamixer again....05:35
sheenabonjoyee: no such file or directory05:35
bonjoyeesheena: ?05:36
sheenabonjoyee: that's what it says05:36
bonjoyeesheena: sure theres no typo?05:36
johny_I have installed ndiswrapper package to handle my wireless networking after my chip could not be supported by the broaddcom driver packages05:37
sheenahome@home:~$ alsamixer05:37
sheenacannot open mixer: No such file or directory05:37
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johny_so after installing ndiswrapper, how do I locate the appropriate <drivers>.inf file for my chip?05:37
ActionParsnipsheena: sudo apt-get install alsa-utils05:38
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dubliskHi, ubuntu has just crashed on my twice now. The screen goes black and then 2 seconds later I get a login screen. When I login all the programs have closed.05:38
dubliskHow can I figure out what is going wrong05:38
ActionParsnipsheena: did you add the 2nd line I gave to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf05:38
bonjoyeesheena: one last try could be to add just "options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba" to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and reboot..or else I am out of this..05:38
sheenaalready the newest version, ActionParsnip05:38
sheenaActionParsnip: i did, rebooted, no change, then switched it to bonjoyee's option one, also no change05:39
dooglusActionParsnip: check 'man 5 modprobe.d' - it tells you that lines in the modprobe.d config files can't start with the word 'modprobe'05:39
ActionParsnipsheena: try changing the model to: model=laptop05:39
sheenabonjoyee: so just taking off the last bit probe mask?05:39
bonjoyeesheena: yes...05:39
sheenaActionParsnip: to bonjoyee's or to yours?05:40
ActionParsnipdooglus: read the files yourself, or many guides for sound, they need that sort of line adding05:40
NeT_DeMoNHi, I used a command to disable my faulty touchpad on my laptop and my mouse no longer clicks but I can move it and the touchpad still works. I had found this article about disabling the touchpad and when I went to find the device ID it said 10 and I used the command 'xinput set-prop 10 "Device Enabled" 0' and I disabled it to start up and I restarted but I'm still having problems.05:40
ActionParsnipsheena: whatever the model= says currently, change it to laptop05:40
sheenaActionParsnip: so now i have "options snd_hda_intel model=laptop" as the added line in alsa-base.conf05:40
ActionParsnipsheena: if that doesn't work then try changing it to generic05:40
sheenareboot again?05:40
ActionParsnipsheena: I also recommend you upgrade your alsa to 1.0.23 with: http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2010/05/02/upgrade-alsa-1-0-23-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/05:41
ActionParsnipsheena: reboot to test inbetween05:41
sheenaActionParsnip: that upgrade looks complicated..05:42
JohnnyZeroCan I ask what the difference is between Unity and Gnome? (since 11.04 is coming next month I'm just curious)05:42
dnivrahello. I am trying to set up my phone with Ubuntu 10.10-add it to known devices. I click on the bluetooth applet, set up new device, next and Ubuntu detects my phone but is just unable to connect to it. It just says "Connection to <phone's name> failed.". What is possibly wrong?05:42
DaPenguinbrophat, what does sudo lshw -C network show?05:42
JohnnyZeroIs it just a couple of things or is it lots of things?05:43
brophatok hold on let me see05:43
ActionParsnipsheena: its step by step....05:43
dnivra!unity | JohnnyZero05:43
ubottuJohnnyZero: Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity05:43
JohnnyZerooh ok thank you05:43
sheenaActionParsnip: yes, it is. just very long for an upgrade. i can do it tomorrow sometime though.05:43
DaPenguinbrophat, we just want to make sure there's a driver listed05:43
sheenaActionParsnip: rebooting again.05:44
brophatDaPenguin yea it all seems to be there05:44
DaPenguinbrophat, ok, can you pastebin the output of iwconfig?05:46
brophatDaPenguin you mean just type iwconfig ?05:46
sheenaActionParsnip: no change with "laptop"05:46
nekhello05:46
DaPenguinbrophat, yes05:47
sheenaActionParsnip: i guess i could try with generic, but i think i'll leave it for tonight and try again tomorrow. is it possible its a hardware issue?05:47
brophatDaPenguin  http://pastebin.com/tub6qsJE05:47
DaPenguinbrophat, that and lshw -C network -sanitize05:47
brophatok05:47
DaPenguinbrophat, nvm on the lshw paste05:48
DaPenguinbrophat, think i see the issue05:48
brophatDaPenguin  http://pastebin.com/qRnH0tYg05:49
DaPenguinbrophat, do you have wpasupplicant installed?05:49
sukaflopsfml, accidentally closed irc05:49
brophatDaPenguin don't know05:49
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sukaflopshmmm battery is showing 93% now... maybe im just not used to it being so much larger05:49
DaPenguinbrophat, try sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant05:50
brophatok05:50
brophatDaPenguin yeah i guess it was already installed05:51
DaPenguinbrophat, ok, let's try a dbus restart: sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart05:51
dnivraI am trying to set up my phone with Ubuntu 10.10 I click on the bluetooth applet, set up new device, next and Ubuntu detects my phone but is just unable to connect to it. It just says "Connection to <phone> failed.". What is possibly wrong? I did it earlier but deleted the devices from both the phone and the computer before trying again.05:52
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SkrappJawQuick help. I'm having problems with my SSH remote X server. ubuntu 10.04 host with vbox debian guest. I can connect through the network to host but not the otherway.05:53
SkrappJawssh: connect to host 192.xxx.x.xxx port 22: Connection refused05:53
sheenaActionParsnip: have we done anything that might cause unexpected reboots?05:54
brophatDaPenguin pk05:55
brophatok05:55
brophatit bombed the system05:55
joakoI don't understand why I need "mount --bind /home/users /export/users"  to run Ubuntu NFS server... can't I just directly export e.g. /home/joako?05:55
NeT_DeMoNIf I get the error "Unable to connect to X server" how do I find out what's wrong or restart it since it dies after every restart?05:55
DaPenguinbrophat, yeah, forgot to tell you it would do that, sorry05:55
brophatok well still no wirless showing up in network manager05:56
DaPenguinbrophat, hmm05:56
DaPenguinone sec05:57
sunitI am trying to run a sql file as cronjob every five minutes. I have written * * * * * /usr/bin/psql -h localhost -p 5432 -U postgres openbravomp14 -1 -f /home/starlite/Desktop/SQLQuery1.sql > /tmp/trial.log 2>&105:57
sunitAm I correct ?05:58
restore_f2hi05:58
brophatDaPenguin maybe the command didn't work right05:58
brophati got suspended and had to power down05:58
brophati got stuck in a black screen05:58
DaPenguinbrophat, try this sudo wpasupplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -i wlan0 -d and see what that outputs05:59
DaPenguinbrophat , sorry, sudo wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -i wlan0 -d06:00
brophatyeah it said command not found bwahahah06:01
sheenanight all. thanks for the attempted help everyone. i'll probably be back tomorrow.06:01
DaPenguinbrophat, typos ftl lol06:01
brophatDaPenguin it said failed to read or parse configuration '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf'06:02
brophatFailed to add interface wlan006:02
DaPenguinbrophat, ok, so wpa_supplicant looks like it's not configured properly06:02
joakoIs there some way to ensure nfs exports has 100% full permissions?06:03
DaPenguinbrophat, you may need to do 'sudo apt-get purge wpasupplicant' and then 'sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant06:03
brophatDaPenguin i thin linux has a long way to go before it takes over windows bhahahaha06:03
HRezaeiHi. How to find where a program is installed?06:04
jsoftwhich cmd06:04
HRezaeihow?06:04
joakoI've put in my /etc/exports: /home/joako 172.21.11.238(rw,sync,no_root_squash) and I can mount it on another system but I get "Operation not permitted"  errors if I try to actually use it06:04
DaPenguinbrophat, it's the lack of proper driver support is all it is06:04
brophatDaPenguin yes i know and that is a lot06:04
brophatDaPenguin i am using wep06:04
brophatso does it matter if that thing is not configured properly?06:05
b3gott3ni would like to be queued up for a simple question06:05
DaPenguinbrophat, ugh, you do realize wep keys are a joke to crack, right?06:05
jribb3gott3n: no queue, just ask06:05
brophatDaPenguin yeah i know i read that somewhere06:06
jsoftbrophat: as in stupidly easy06:06
b3gott3nso i installed a local copy of diaspora in ubuntu06:06
brophatDaPenguin linux should be more like mac and just target small number of hardware06:06
b3gott3nand part of setting up the config is to:06:06
jsoftbrophat: :\06:06
b3gott3n"Diaspora needs to know what host it's running on. Copy config/app_config.yml.example to config/app_config.yml, put your external url into the pod_url field, and make any other needed configuration changes."06:06
brophatjsoft yes i know like dumb easy like bafoon easy06:06
jribb3gott3n: (on one line please)06:06
DaPenguinbrophat, well, it's trying to connect via wpa is the issue06:07
brophatDaPenguin yeah i did try to change it to wpa06:07
brophati thought i did change it to wps06:07
brophatso maybe something wacked out06:07
nixjrhow do i change my primary display when using multiple monitors?06:07
DaPenguinbrophat, it's possible06:07
lamentwhy does my internet connection (wireless) drop when I kill X?06:08
bonjoyeelament: connecting using network-manager?06:08
b3gott3nsorry jrib.  I just want to know how ubuntu sets up urls06:08
lamentbonjoyee: i suppose.06:08
DaPenguinlament, probably because it's all being controlled via gnome's network manager06:08
lamentwell then06:08
izinucslament: network manager might be the culprit.. set a static IP manually getting rid of NM.06:08
brophatDaPenguin ok sorry i need to do what you said ok doing it now06:09
bonjoyeelament: then you have to use "available to all" for that connection...06:09
dnivraI am trying to set up my phone with Ubuntu 10.10 I click on the bluetooth applet, set up new device, next and Ubuntu detects my phone but is just unable to connect to it. It just says "Connection to <phone> failed.". What is possibly wrong? I did it earlier but deleted the devices from both the phone and the computer before trying again.06:09
izinucslament: or set an alias in ~/.bash_aliases to switch from static ip manually configured to network manager when in gui06:09
lamentehh06:09
DaPenguinbrophat, try this, it's a bit dated but should still work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo?highlight=%28wpa%2906:10
lamentis there a command-line network manager?06:10
jribb3gott3n: what aren't you sure about?  You seem to have pasted the instructions06:10
jriblament: nmcli06:10
DaPenguinlament, ifconfig and iwconfig for wifi06:10
lamentthanks06:10
izinucslament: not really.. /etc/network/interfaces & /etc/hosts  along with what DaPenguin said06:11
b3gott3njrib:  i don't know what the external url would be because i'm not running a web server06:11
jribizinucs: see nmcli (there's also cnetworkmanager)06:11
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lamenti'm fine with a static ip really06:11
brophatDaPenguin i purged and reinstalled now i have back the wirless symbol but when i click on it it says network manager now running06:11
izinucsjrib: that's why I hang out here.. learn something every time :) thanks06:12
DaPenguinbrophat, and no networks listed?06:12
jribb3gott3n: in that case, ask #diaspora :)06:12
brophatDaPenguin correct06:12
brophatdo i need to reboot or something?06:12
DaPenguinbrophat, probably easiest, or at least restart network manager06:13
brophathow do i restart network manager06:13
dnivrabrophat, "sudo service network-manager restart"06:14
DaPenguinbrophat, log out and then back in should do it if i'm not mistaken06:14
DaPenguinbrophat, or that lol06:14
brophatlet me log out cuse i think you got something misspelled again hahaha06:14
DaPenguinbrophat, again, my gui experience is somewhat limited, especially on the gnome side06:14
brophatyeah hold on will be right back06:15
brophatbut i think you are onto something cause i got my wirless symbol back on network manager06:15
Danielcg25I'm running Ubuntu via a USB stick. I need to clone the two HDDs I have plugged in. How do I do this?06:16
DaPenguinDanielcg25, man dd06:17
Danielcg25?06:17
Danielcg25(I'm a linux newbie)06:17
bonjoyeeDanielcg25: http://clonezilla.org06:17
DaPenguinDanielcg25, dd is what you would use to clone the drives. typing man dd in a console gives you the manual page for it06:18
DaPenguinDanielcg25, or any other cli command for that matter06:18
Danielcg25bonjoyee: I tried that, but I don't know which one to get. There's i486, and i686, but I have a i386 Ubuntu that works... Idk which one would work. I have a Pentium D if that helps06:19
Danielcg25Would mounting both drives and Ctrl+C everything and then Ctrl+V on the other drive work?06:19
bonjoyeeDanielcg25: i686..it doesnt matter really...as it copies at data block level..the os does not matter..06:20
Danielcg25Ok06:20
quiescensdd.. can be used if both drives are the same size, something like clonezilla is probably preferable06:20
Danielcg25One drive is 150 GB, and the other is 1TB06:21
bonjoyeeDanielcg25: also dd copies the unused blocks as well...which i feel is inefficient..06:21
Sakarahey all, just installed ubuntu and now my previous Windows 7 install can't be booted. Its not in the list06:21
SakaraWindows 7 is still there ubuntu was installed on another drive06:21
brophatDaPenguin i am now offline06:22
Danielcg25Sakara: It's your Bootloader....06:22
Sakarayes I know06:22
monkeyDkif I type df, I see the folders sda1, and sda6 which are my partitons and it make sence, but why does linux list also /dev06:22
Sakarasudo grub-update doens't pick it up06:22
brophatnetwork manager is not showing up and cannot connect to internet06:22
quiescensDanielcg25: if you are copying to the smaller drive, dd will possibly be incomplete, if you are copying to the larger drive, you won't neccesarily be able to use the additional space unless you edit your partitioning manually afterwards06:22
DaPenguinbrophat, try network-manager & in a console06:23
brophatDaPenguin guess now it is time for you to start errasing my hard drive vwahahahaha06:23
quiescensDanielcg25: your best bet is probably to use clonezilla or something as bonjoyee suggested06:23
brophatok06:23
Danielcg25Well, I tried Ctrl+Cing everything and it couldn't copy my virus software :(06:23
DaPenguinbrophat, lol, that comes later :P06:23
jribSakara: can you mount the windows drive in ubuntu?06:23
Sakarayes06:23
zhangfeihello06:23
brophatDaPenguin after all you are the penguin06:24
Sakarajrib: Eveything is still there06:24
monkeyDkif I type df, I see the folders sda1, and sda6 which are my partitons and it make sence, but why does linux list also /dev /dev/shm, /var/run, /var/lock and /lib/init/rw ?06:24
zhangfeiwhere are you06:24
zhangfei?06:24
Danielcg25"There was an error copying the file into /media/Local Disk (C:)/Program Data/AVG 10/chjw.06:24
WarWalkerhello world06:24
DaPenguinbrophat, *DO NOT DO THIS* sudo rm -rf /*06:24
brophatDaPenguin it said network-manager can not be found06:24
Danielcg25Error opening file: Input/Output error06:25
LinuxpwnsHow do I change the volume icon on Ubuntu 10.10 to resemble the following image: http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/extra/LINUX/small/pulseaudiovolume-small_010.png I like don't like how the new one  acts. Is it possible to change it so it resembles the old style vertical bar?06:25
Danielcg25;(06:25
jribSakara: ok.  In my case, grub-update could not find windows because a fuse bug prevented me from being able to mount the windows partition06:25
brophatDaPenguin ok will do06:25
Sakara:(06:25
DaPenguinbrophat, no don't do that, that WILL erase your hdd!!06:25
SakaraI am using grub-pc grub-common packages, would they have notheing to do with it06:25
brophatDaPenguin i now06:25
dnivra!who | zhangfei06:25
ubottuzhangfei: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)06:25
zhangfeiwhat is this?06:26
brophatthere are some things i do know06:26
DaPenguinbrophat, lol06:26
red2kicLinuxpwns: I don't remember -- but I think it's something like "gnome-media" -- Try using tab,tab.06:26
dnivra!support  | zhangfei06:26
ubottuzhangfei: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com06:26
monkeyDkcan anyone help me please ?06:26
dnivra!ask | monkeyDk06:26
ubottumonkeyDk: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)06:26
jrib!helpme | monkeyDk06:26
ubottumonkeyDk: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude06:26
red2kicLinuxpwns: Try "gnome-volume-control"06:26
brophatit said the command network-manager can not be found06:27
DaPenguinbrophat, try this 'sudo service network-manager start'06:27
brophatDaPenguin i did not do sudo before06:27
brophatmaybe i should have done sudo06:27
DaPenguinbrophat, no, it's a service, not an actual runable app06:27
brophatok06:28
monkeyDkif I type df, I see the folders sda1, and sda6 which are my partitons and it make sence, but why does linux list also /dev /dev/shm, /var/run, /var/lock and /lib/init/rw ?06:29
brophatDaPenguin it said network-manager unrecognized service06:29
Linuxpwnsred2kic, its already installed.06:29
dnivramonkeyDk, see man df. it says it reports disk space usage.06:29
brophatDaPenguin you do understan that i am offline with my ubuntu and i am using my mac right now06:30
monkeyDkdnivra: sure, but why does it list these folders as well ?06:30
DaPenguinbrophat, yeah, i got that, try this 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'06:30
red2kicLinuxpwns: I'm not talking about the package. I can't remember but one of the commands will bring up the gnome-volume-control-applet that you want to use.06:30
Linuxpwnsred2kic, look at the following image: http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/How-to-Replace-the-Volume-Control-in-Ubuntu-9-04-with-the-PulseAudio-One-2.jpg notice how when you want to change the volume its just a simple vertical bar...06:31
LinuxpwnsOh ok.06:31
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brophatDaPenguin ok it took the command but i am still offline06:32
dnivramonkeyDk, because they are all mounted file systems.06:32
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DaPenguinbrophat, does ifconfig show any active interfaces?06:33
dnivrabrophat, DaPenguin you could also try '/etc/init.d/network-manager restart' as root.06:33
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monkeyDkdnivra: dont understand why they have to be mounted06:33
red2kicLinuxpwns: "gnome-volume-control-applet" ?06:34
brophatDaPenguin ifconfig only shows lo06:34
dnivramonkeyDk, I'm not familiar with the specifics sorry. you might want to read about it online or ask in ##linux. I could make only this much sense from the man page.06:34
r0fs3ck5Hi, has anyone had any experience getting a Leadtek DTV 1800 H going on ubuntu 10.04 amd64?06:35
Linuxpwnsdoes not work in terminal or is missing?06:35
jiltdilbrophat:may u please repeat your question06:35
waitmehello06:35
DaPenguinbrophat, ok, you jiltdil he's trying to get wifi up and running06:36
jiltdilok06:36
DaPenguinbrophat, ok you should probably try a reboot or a dbus restart06:36
zhangfeiur5xcs (~ur5xcs@91.217.106.1) 加入了 #ubuntu06:37
zhangfei<DaPenguin> brophat, ok you should probably try a reboot or a dbus restart06:37
brophatDaPenguin i did a reboot and that is when it came up without any network manager and offline06:37
brophathow do i do a dbus restart again?06:37
DaPenguinbrophat, 'sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart'06:38
jribbrophat, DaPenguin: while it doesn't matter in this case, it's good practice to now use the « service » instead of calling the /etc/init.d directly.  So to restart dbus one would do « sudo service dbus restart »06:39
brophatDaPenguin ok same thing happened as last time i get stuck in black screen06:39
brophatyea i am stuck in black screan saying checkint battery state06:40
DaPenguinjrib, ok, i'll keep that in mind06:40
brophatand i am going to have to force  a power down06:40
DaPenguinbrophat, ugh, ok06:40
jiltdilbrophat:r u want to start wifi ?06:42
jiltdilbrophat:or just want to up it06:42
brophatDaPenguin ok no network manager and no internet06:43
DaPenguinbrophat, reinstalling wpasupplicant shouldn't have knocked out your networking completely.06:44
brophatok maybe i should reinstall ubuntu hahaha06:44
DaPenguinbrophat, there's something else going on here06:44
brophatyeah maybe someting we did yesterday to it06:45
DaPenguinbrophat, it may be you need to boot the kernel with the noacpi option...06:45
brophatDaPenguin ok how do i do that bwahahahaha06:46
intrader_DaPenguin, when you have a chance; I am struggling with problem at boot - I get a terminal window that asks for login.06:46
DaPenguinintrader_, still having the same problem, huh?06:46
Seven_Six_Twohow do I add a kernel parameter in 10.10?06:47
jrib!grub2 | Seven_Six_Two06:47
ubottuSeven_Six_Two: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub206:47
ActionParsnipSeven_Six_Two: in /etc/default/grub   the default ones are: quiet splash06:47
ruanintrader_:  can you login and type "startx" ?06:47
ActionParsnipSeven_Six_Two: after you add the option in the quotes, save the file and then run: sudo update-grub06:48
brophatDaPenguin i think reinstalling ubuntu maybe a good idea06:48
intrader_DaPenguin, yes - I am unable to go back to previous version of kernel; I have tried synaptic uninstall of linux. It loops in synaptic never ending update.06:48
DaPenguinbrophat, yeah, booting with noacpi involves editing the grub.cfg file06:48
ActionParsnipDaPenguin: no it doesnt06:48
brophatDapenguin ok will look into that06:49
DaPenguinActionParsnip, is there another way to do it now?06:49
ActionParsnipDaPenguin: add it in /etc/default/grub :)06:49
Seven_Six_Twooh dammit. jrib, ActionParsnip I looked at that file too...I did a google search! I don't know why I didn't see that. thanks06:49
brophatDaPenguin where is that file?06:49
DaPenguinbrophat, hold on a sec06:49
ActionParsnipDaPenguin: grub.cfg is generated, so changes made will be lost next time a kernel is added06:49
ranjanhi all i am going to try ubuntu cloud trial on amazon ec2 but i am not able to ssh :(06:49
ranjanany idea?06:49
Seven_Six_TwoI keep getting a kernel Aieee!06:49
intrader_ruan, no it goes back to the terminal window06:50
DaPenguinActionParsnip, ah, ok, gotcha, see where that needs to get changed06:50
Seven_Six_TwoThe only problem I can see from /var/logs/messages is when the clocksource is switched.06:50
brophatI think linux should be like mac in that it should pick a small set of hardware and write the code for that specific hardware06:50
ActionParsnipDaPenguin: if you run:  head /boot/grub/grub.cfg06:50
Seven_Six_Twobrophat, that's a horrible idea!06:51
ActionParsnipDaPenguin: it even tells you to NOT edit tthe file ;)06:51
brophatok seven just a thought06:51
heyguiseHey guys. I'm trying to map a joypad to keyboard commands. Any help?06:51
intrader_ruan, I have gone through that about 10 hrs ago.06:51
brophatbut that way there will be no driver compat problems06:51
DaPenguinActionParsnip, sorry, it's been a while since i rolled on a buntu variant06:51
heyguisesailorrreality is a spam bot btw06:51
ActionParsnipDaPenguin: its cool bro06:51
ActionParsnipheyguise: yeah, dead annoying06:52
RubenAlonzoGreetings All06:52
ActionParsniphi RubenAlonzo06:52
ruanhmm06:52
Linuxpwnsheyguise: Install joy2key package in Synaptic06:52
RubenAlonzodarnit! that spam guy is still going huh? sailorrealty or something06:52
DaPenguinActionParsnip, so what would you do, edit the /etc/defaults/grub file and then update-grub i'm assuming?06:52
ActionParsnipRubenAlonzo: yeah just put it on ignore06:53
RubenAlonzoActionParsnip: thanks, will do06:53
intrader_ruan, thanks anyway. Latest thing I have tried is to uninstall the linux kernel I am having problems with.06:53
Linuxpwnsheyguise: sudo apt-get install joy2key             in terminal if you wish06:53
fnordfnordThis is a test message. Please ignore it. Love, your local channel operators.06:53
mymeatinyourseatheyguise, try xbcd or xpadder or pennicle06:53
ruanintrader_: have you tried regenerating xorg.conf06:53
ActionParsnipDaPenguin: exactly, the default boot options are: quiet splash   you add the options in the quotes, then sudo update-grub will add the options in grub.cfg for your current kernels but it will also add it to subsequent kernels too :)06:54
DaPenguinActionParsnip, kk, gotcha06:54
fnordfnordhrm, apparently I am not cool enough to get spam :|06:54
RubenAlonzoanyone running 11.04 narwhal? was just wondering about that unity bar that is a constant in mav meerkat on my left side of screen, if there will be option to auto hide it or something?06:54
heyguiseokay i got it installed06:54
heyguiseRubenAlonzo, i hate it too06:54
intrader_ruan, no - but as ActionParsnip says, it is regenerated.06:54
rwwRubenAlonzo: #ubuntu+1 for natty discussion and support please06:54
DaPenguinok brophat, here's what we do :)06:54
b3gott3nother channels got that spam as well06:54
heyguiseRubenAlonzo, when your booting up before you type your password and what not select "Ubuntu classic" in the boot options at the bottom.06:54
LanlostI'm using Ubuntu Studio. I have a strange problem that has afflicted me on this computer and I feel like on my last one too. On my old computer, I had much bigger flash performance issues. One video would be fine. Two tabs.. ok.., if I had more than three (I could have a million NON flash sites open) then.. my computer would basically be unusable06:54
lamentany ops around?06:55
rwwlament: hi06:55
Lanlostanyway, I'm not having that problem on this much better computer06:55
DaPenguinbrophat, sudo nano /etc/defaults/grub06:55
brophatok06:55
Lanlostmy question is, my computer plays flash fine now. I can watch 720p, etc, fine.. multiple windows, 10 youtube windows, etc06:55
RubenAlonzoheyguise: thanks i will lookfor that option upon next boot06:55
rwwlament: or in general, #ubuntu-ops06:55
DaPenguinbrophat, look for the line that reads GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"06:55
brophatok found it06:56
LanlostThe problem is.. the video will be playing fine.. then all of a sudden the video itself will freeze but the audio will continue.. then like 5 seconds later... the whole computer will lock up. It doesn't have time to grey out the window06:56
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Lanlostthen like 15 seconds later.. it will suddenly spring back to action.. the screen will come OUT of grey and everything will be fine. I never see it grey out though.. it's just:06:56
DaPenguinwere going to add noacpi to the end of the options list, then ctrl-o to save the file then ctrl-x to exit06:56
brophatyeah i learned how to use nano last night06:57
LanlostPlaying video -> video stops but audio continues -> 5 seconds later BOTH stop (still color) -> 15 seconds later POPS back into action.. screen suddenly comes out of grey.06:57
DaPenguinbrophat,  kk lol06:57
LanlostAnyone ever had that issue?06:57
ActionParsnipLanlost: read dmesg with the watch command and see if it has any clues06:57
Lanlostah06:57
LinuxpwnsRubenAlonzo: There is the ability to auto hide in the 11.04 release with Unity i believe06:57
brophatbut what options list?06:57
ActionParsnipLanlost: also try a different browser to isolate the issue06:57
mymeatinyourseatcan anyone pm me and tell me how to run halo ce on ubuntu06:57
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ActionParsnip!wine | mymeatinyourseat06:57
ubottumymeatinyourseat: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu06:57
DaPenguinbrophat, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash noacpi"06:57
brophatok ic06:58
LanlostNothing in dmesg at all06:58
Lanlostin hours..06:58
DaPenguinLanlost, flash video?06:58
Lanlostyes06:58
RubenAlonzoLinuxpwns: thanks! cant wait for final release, i finally got rid of windows completely on my little netbook06:58
LanlostIt's annoying because sometimes it won't happen for hours.. even though I have 10 tabs open.06:58
brophatDaPenguin ok done06:58
ioriawhere am i ?06:58
brophatnow what06:58
brophatreboot?06:59
DaPenguinbrophat, ok, now sudo update-grub06:59
ioriacoooolllllll06:59
nixjrhow do i set the primary display when using "separate x session" with multiple monitors?06:59
mymeatinyourseatthanks, ap, but every time I try n open wine or the halo cd, I always get that red like do not enter sign..??06:59
brophatDaPenguin ok done06:59
brophatnowwhat rebooot?06:59
LanlostAnd then other times.. I have one tab open, one simple like 480p video and it will happen, and then it snaps back and then 10 seconds later it happens again. No hard drive thrashing.. usually it happens once and then I'm fine for that video. I don't get it.06:59
DaPenguinbrophat, ok, now try and reboot06:59
LanlostThe main reason I'm asking now is because. it seems to be happening on every video. Maybe I'll record a video06:59
RubenAlonzooh man, schumacher does not make it into Q3 final qualifying in melbourne just now07:00
LinuxpwnsRubenAlonzo: Yep i've been looking at previews/reviews of 11.04 on youtube07:00
Shuujin96schumacher is still alive?07:00
DaPenguinLanlost, yeah, i've been having that issue ever since the last flash update on some sites07:00
johny_I have installed ndiswrapper plus an appropriate wireless driver for my chip but wireless is still not working, someone please help07:00
nixjrhow do i set the primary display when using "separate x session" with multiple monitors?07:00
DaPenguinLanlost, or it might have something to do with firefox 4 and flash07:01
brophatDaPenguin still the same no network manager and still offline07:01
RubenAlonzoLinuxpwns: i saw a video of alpha 3 release, and indeed there seemed to be an option to autohide it or smart hide it in case of full window on another application, but it could still change, i am hoping they will keep it like that where we get the option to choose to hide it because my netbook has a 10.1 inch screen07:01
DaPenguinbrophat, ok, something weird is going on here07:02
brophatyour telling me bwahahaha07:02
ioriamay i ask a question, please ?07:02
DaPenguin!ask07:02
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)07:02
nixjrhow do i set the primary display when using "separate x session" with multiple monitors?07:02
LanlostDaPenguin, I'm on FF3. You are having THAT issue though? To a tee?07:02
LinuxpwnsRubenAlonzo: I agree. A keyboard shortcut/hotkey to only bring it up when you want would be nice as well don't you think?07:03
RubenAlonzoLinuxpwns: THAT option woild be ideal!07:03
DaPenguinLanlost, depends, some sites do that (certain youtube videos) or they give me bad pixelization07:03
RubenAlonzopardon my spelling07:03
jiltdilhow to open .odp via termianl (open office)07:03
LanlostIt's hard to find anything on google becuase if you search for "flash video temporary freeze linux firefox" or any combination of any symptom.. you find much more serious issues like flash LOCKING UP firefox .. or resetting or whatever07:03
LanlostI dont have pixelization07:03
ruanjiltdil: do you want to edit it via terminal or open openoffice with terminal?07:03
Lanlostanyway, I'll keep you posted if I seem to solve it. I added more ram recently and it had no effect.07:03
DaPenguinLanlost, linux and flash have always been buggy together07:04
RubenAlonzoioria: dont be afraid to ask please, just type your question, if someone knows they will steer you in the right direction07:04
jiltdilruan: i have a .odp ready i want to open it from terminal to see it07:04
johny_I have installed ndiswrapper plus an appropriate wireless driver for my chip but wireless is still not working, someone please help07:04
ioriathanx. naturally i'm newbie. and my Movie Player does',t work, so i installed Xine and it works fine... i don't understand why ?07:04
DaPenguinioria, you may need the gstreamer non-free plugins07:04
nixjrhow do i set the primary monitor when using "separate x session" with multiple monitors?07:04
brophatDapenguin what do yo think should i reinstall ubuntu?07:04
Seven_Six_TwoI think my kernel panics were caused by cpu freq scaling, and the kernel switching clocksources...07:04
DaPenguinbrophat, honestly, at this point i'd say go for it...lol07:05
iorianon-free ... with apt-get ?07:05
brophatok hahaaha07:05
ruanjiltdil: run "openoffice.org file.odp"07:05
Seven_Six_Twonixjr, nvidia?07:05
nixjrSeven_Six_Two, yes07:05
Seven_Six_Twonixjr, there's a check box in nvidia-settings   but remember to run it as root so that it can write xorg.conf07:06
jiltdilruan:thanx07:06
jiltdilruan: and how to edit it via termainl07:06
DaPenguin!restricted | ioria07:06
ubottuioria: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:06
RubenAlonzobrb07:06
nixjrSeven_Six_Two, in "twinview" there is a check box for primary, but i dont want 1 spanned desktop, i want separate ones, in "separate x session" there is not check box for primary07:07
heyguisegrr, okay im working in joy2key. I have .joy2keyrc open. I'm trying to figure out how to map the button but this forum page is blowing my mind.07:07
DaPenguinioria, ubuntu doesn't come with proprietary format support by default due to a couple different issues.07:07
razz1scp -vv -C -P 39999 crow@192.294.12.149:hardware.html  I am trying to copy a file from the remote system to my computer, this command is not working, what's wrong07:07
ioriasudo apt-get gstreamer non-free plugins ... this is the command ?07:07
DaPenguinioria, honestly i just use vlc, never had any issues07:07
jsoftvlc ftw07:08
DaPenguinioria, check out the link from ubottu, that should give you instructions for installing the necessary plugins07:08
ioriaok :_)07:08
ioriathanx07:08
DaPenguinioria, np :)07:08
Seven_Six_Twonixjr, what do you suppose "primary" means with separate x screens?07:09
ruanjiltdil: im not sure, only if terminal has a way to read openoffice files07:10
Seven_Six_Twonixjr, really, with separate x screens, the only consideration is relative location.07:10
Seven_Six_Twonixjr, or absolute, if you're into that kind of thing. ;)07:10
ruanjiltdil: you can try "nano file" but it may not read properly07:10
RubenAlonzois there a way to get Safari browser on ubuntu? if not what is the next closest thing to it please?07:11
nixjrSeven_Six_Two, i have 2 monitors, one connected with vga and one with dvi, on ym desk the dvi is tot he left and the vga to the right, when using "separate x session" the vga monitor ont he right is whjere my login prompt comes up, and the mouse spans from the right of the right monitor, into the left of the left monitor07:11
jiltdilruan:is there any way to play video under the terminal not outside ?07:11
nixjri want ti reversed07:11
DaPenguinRubenAlonzo, konq and safari share similar codebases if i remember correctly07:11
LinuxpwnsRubenAlonzo: Download PlayOnLinux and once installed go to Internet section and download Safari07:12
Seven_Six_Twonixjr, drag and drop the monitor locations at the top of nvidia-setting?07:12
jiltdilruan:nano is not reading odp07:12
Seven_Six_TwoRubenAlonzo, I've read that safari uses the khtml engine, which is used in konqueror.07:12
Lanlostso at my job, for PCI compliance, I just found out that I need to have a virus scanner on ..all PCs, they consider this Windows AND Linux.07:12
RubenAlonzoDaPenguin: thanks i will that and also Linuxpwns' idea of playonlinux07:12
LanlostBut Macs don't need one.07:12
jsoftLanlost: :\07:13
DaPenguinLanlost, lol07:13
heyguiseany one have an example config for joy2key for a sixaxis controller?07:13
RubenAlonzoSeven_Six_Two: thanks07:13
Lanlostyeah07:13
RubenAlonzobrb07:13
Linuxpwnsruben, its not perfect though its a bit buggy.... it might crash because of missing dependencies07:13
jsoftLanlost: so what you going to do?07:13
LanlostDon't you guys love it when you get one of those "VIRUS DETECTED" pop-ups that look like "My Computer" pops up when you're using Linux? =P07:14
jsoftYeah :)07:14
heyguiseohh, okay i get it lets see07:14
DaPenguinLanlost, lol, yeah, those are hilarious :P07:14
red2kicLanlost: I'm going to make one for Ubuntu.07:14
lamenti don't, that's why i got adblock07:14
Lanlostmake one?07:14
razz1scp -vv -C -P 39999 crow@192.294.12.149:hardware.html  I am trying to copy a file from the remote system to my computer, this command is not working, what's wrong, the remote ip is 192.294.12.149. I can SSh, just the syntax is wrong. please help07:14
ioriabye07:14
Lanlostisn't there ClamAV for linux or something?07:14
red2kicrazz1:...149:hardware.html is wrong.07:15
Linuxpwnsheyguise: Sorry, I use my sixaxis controller for a PSX emulator to play gran turismo and driver07:15
Seven_Six_TwoLanlost, yes. you can install that07:15
red2kicLanlost: No, I meant the adveristment.07:15
DaPenguinLanlost, youd think they'd at least use alert("VIRUS DETECTED") or something like that lol07:15
jsoftLanlost: yeah there is, but its pretty much for detecting windows viruses07:15
LanlostI know there are linux virus scanners. I asked a guy at my work what he was going to do and he said he got one. I asked him what it does and he said it searches for viruses07:15
slim_charlesCan anyone help me with something related to FTP/07:15
slim_charles?07:15
jsoftLanlost: clamav07:15
red2kicrazz1: Use ...149:~/path/to/hardware.html07:15
Lanlostbut really, there aren't any I know of in the wild obviously. Is it a .. virus database of what... all the viruses you can count on one hand?07:15
LanlostI thought Macs were equally safe but from what I understand, this isn't necessarily true as of the last few years07:16
heyguiseokay one last question i think i got it. Whats left click "Rclick" ?07:16
red2kicrazz1: Maybe... 149:~/Desktop/hardware.html07:16
heyguisesorry "lclick"07:16
razz1red2kic: ok i want to copy the hardware.html file from the home dir. thats why I did not specify ~07:16
heyguiseor?07:16
DaPenguinLanlost, linux virus scanners primarily exist for sanitizing incoming email if you're using the box in a server capacity07:16
Seven_Six_TwoThere are something like 50 linux virus (none that do anything) and 50k windows virus07:16
red2kicrazz1: Use ~/hardware.html then.07:16
LanlostI guess that while Macs are inherently secure.. they pretty much know what set up you have.. or at least it's narrowed down and so they COULD take advantage of vulnerabilities07:16
LanlostDaPengiun, makes sense07:16
heyguisemacs are inheritly secure, kind of like prison.07:16
jsoftLanlost: just put clamav on your linux stuff07:17
LanlostI also mentioned that there are ones that will scan NTFS partitions and such for Windows viruses and people laughed at me07:17
jsoftand then you can say 'sure I have a virus scanner on the linux box'07:17
LinuxpwnsSeven_Six_Two I beg to differ.07:17
red2kicLanlost: Mac and antivirus and linux are useless as soon as you give the users the admin password.07:17
razz1red2kic: tried ~ does not work. It used to work,07:17
LinuxpwnsThere are nasty Linux viruses07:17
red2kicrazz1: Paste the whole line.07:17
Lanlostbut really.. that would be a GREAT tool IMO. Being able to boot a live cd for someone using Windows and getting a nice scan where NO windows files are loaded into memory or anything07:17
Seven_Six_Twothere are as secure as the user putting in the password. same as linux07:17
Seven_Six_TwoLinuxpwns, with what? there could easily be a virus for linux if a n00b installs it.07:18
Lanlostred2kic, that's why you avoid that when you can.07:18
Lanlost=)07:18
ruanjiltdil: VLC can play videos as ASCII in a terminal i believe07:18
razz1red2kic:  scp -vv -C -P 39999 crow@192.294.12.149:~hardware.html07:18
Seven_Six_TwoLinuxpwns, oh I see. I thought you meant that the other way...07:18
Lanlostjsoft, I think I will just use clamav07:18
Linuxpwnsmy point exactly07:18
ActionParsnipLanlost: you can, just install clamav / clamtk in livecd and svan07:18
ActionParsnip*scan07:18
DaPenguinLinuxpwns, the problem with linux viruses is that they'd have to be installed with root perms to do anything lol07:18
ActionParsnipruan: mplayer does it too07:18
jsoftYeah I was once asked to install a virus scanner for linux by a PHB. Never did in the end07:18
LinuxpwnsDaPenguin, true for most.07:19
heyguiseany one know the keymap for left click is it "L_click" ?07:19
red2kicrazz1: scp -vv -C -P 39999 ~/hardware.html crow@192.294.12.14907:19
v_vis there any virus ruuning on linux ?07:19
toshibacant access my videos on line07:19
ruanv_v: no07:19
slim_charlescan anyone tell me how to setup an ftp server07:19
jukDaPenguin: no people just love linux07:19
slim_charlesso i can view it from bmy website, when im not home?07:19
v_vruan: so they  are all for windows files ?07:19
razz1red2kic: no I want to copy from remote system, not to07:19
ruanv_v: viruses are made for windows07:19
ruanv_v: for a virus to work in linux, you'd have to give it full permission to ruin your computer07:20
red2kicrazz1: scp -vv -C -P 39999 crow@192.294.12.149:~/hardware.html07:20
heyguise*nix doesnt really need virus's. The users do a good enough job breaking it them selves07:20
slim_charlesif u have wine07:20
slim_charlesu could get windows viruses07:20
v_v:P07:20
jukheyguise: :D07:20
v_vfunny07:20
LanlostYou know, now that I think about it. It probably IS good to have a virus scanner at my job (webhosting), even on Linux.07:20
jsoftYou could in theory exploit something as a normal user and insert some virus that way07:20
DaPenguinslim_charles, and your entire .wine folder would be in jeopardy lol07:20
ruanlol07:20
razz1got it07:20
LanlostEven if it is just scanning your email, it could stop you from sending it to someone who is using Windows by forwarding mail or something.. infecting them and so on.07:20
red2kicrazz1: Great.07:21
Lanlostcompromising your network and then some.07:21
red2kicCompromising the Internet.07:21
slim_charlesDaPenguin, uhm is wine sandboxed? im sure u  can access filesystem07:21
slim_charlesso i dont know about that07:21
ruanwhat if they're all linux users? :D07:21
LanlostI think that's already happened ;-)07:21
LanlostRuan, is that directed at me?07:21
Seven_Six_Twowine is sandboxed07:21
DaPenguinslim_charles, i'm pretty sure wine is in fact sandboxed07:21
ruanwell, everyone in the conversation07:22
heyguisedoes any one know the keymap for a left click? some one must07:22
LanlostI was told I can run linux if I don't modify the hardware... I think they thought that would stop me somehow. So I just installed it to a decently sized USB stick. Voila.07:22
LanlostHurray for loopholes...07:22
razz1red2kic:  sorry about the confusion, I got the hardware file, i could not get the .x11vncrc file, it would not copy to my ~ had to copy it to desktop07:22
slim_charlesDaPenguin, doesn wine run as current user07:22
jsoftLanlost: 'modify' ?07:22
slim_charlesso it does have access to home directory07:23
sunjunhi07:23
red2kicrazz1: Are you on local network?07:23
jsoftsunjun: oh, hai07:23
LanlostThe computers are supplied to us and they consider partitioning modification07:23
DaPenguinslim_charles, no, just the filesystem in the .wine directory07:23
Seven_Six_Twoslim_charles, iirc, wine is sandboxed. sort of like a chroot07:23
red2kicrazz1: 192* I think so. Use Places --> Connect To Server.07:23
LanlostI would assume. I probably shouldn't have mentioned I would have to partition the drive. Sounds scary to management possibly.07:23
slim_charlesi see07:23
DaPenguinslim_charles, try running winefile and see if you can browse out to ~07:23
razz1red2kic: some on local, some on the net.07:23
LanlostBut really, they should WANT us to use Linux if we can. I would think so at least. I think the main thing is that we are going to be implementing Active Directory.07:24
Seven_Six_TwoI've had quite a few windows viruses actually. in .wine07:24
slim_charlesDaPenguin, well i have run WinRAR before and im sure i was xtracting stuff under the home directory07:24
LanlostI feel like such a noob when it comes to stuff like active directory. Then again, I've never had to use it or anything so I guess it's alright.07:24
razz1red2kic: I had to replace the .x11vncrc file on my system. it just would not copy to the ~ but copy to Desktop07:24
ruanwhy winrar if you have p7zip?07:24
red2kicrazz1: Okay. Use Places --> Connect To Server --> SSH.07:24
LinuxpwnsDaPenguin: I read somewhere or saw a video i can't remember what the guy did, but he demonstrated its possible to screw up your Linux box if you honestly have no idea what you are doing. What happens is the unexperienced Linux user downloads a ".desktop" file thinking its an image or document, instead it installs a nasty piece of malware that forks a daemon process that goes through and data mines the Firefox .sqlite  finds what i07:24
Linuxpwnst wants and routes the appropiate information to the attacker...07:24
red2kicrazz1: Perhaps the file exist.07:24
toshibai cant upload any video website except youtube any answers07:24
LanlostLinuxpwns, that's DEFINITELY possible. That's also definitely user error.07:25
DaPenguinLinuxpwns, ok, i guess that could be a possibility07:25
Seven_Six_TwoLinuxpwns, again, that's only for one user. not the box07:25
razz1red2kic: no the file does not exist. i am sure. it might me  the way scp works. its a . file07:25
heyguisedoes any one know the keymap for a left click? some one must. is it "L_click" ?07:25
red2kicrazz1: Well if it went to Desktop, I'm sure you can just mv it.07:25
razz1yes07:26
razz1red2kic: thanks, back to work07:26
DaPenguinLinuxpwns, the advantage tho is that the average nix user is smart enough not to do something that dumb....hopefully....lol07:26
LinuxpwnsTrue, but it goes to show not all infections need root access to do damage07:26
heyguiseokay i can use xev to figure it out07:26
ruanthey can damage your /home/ dir if you havent backed it up07:27
ruanbut they still need to be marked as executable, etc07:27
LanlostYou know, we have people all the time whos sites get hacked and they blame it on us, as you can possibly imagine. Then it turns out that their password was horrific. I always thought it was a myth that people used such bad passwords.07:27
DaPenguinLanlost, i know for a fact that people use horrible passwords07:27
LanlostAnd then these days people finally start to make it more complex.. but that's due to other websites complaining.. so they do the tried and true Word01 instead of just 'word'07:27
red2kicIt is a myth that people always brush their teeth.07:27
allu2Linuxpwns: there isn't a system where user isn't vulnerability :P it would require blocking user to make "secure" system07:27
LanlostDaPenguin, I'm sure you've seen that then.07:27
ruanblock the user out, megaAI07:28
LanlostBeatles107:28
Linuxpwnshaha true allu207:28
LinuxpwnsBut in the case of this example I saw ...this nasty piece of malware reconfigured the guys gnome menu07:28
LanlostI would say at least it's better than 'beatles' but.. really.. I would think that most people trying to crack password would compensate that.07:28
LanlostThis job is one of those that you really get to see things from the other perspective.07:28
jiltdilruan: what is the command to play video in terminal07:29
DaPenguinLanlost, at my work when people first get hired there accounts are all set to default passwords that they have to change. you would be amazed at how many people just tack a 1 at the end or something07:29
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LinuxpwnsAnd if the user was to ever use a program which requires root access (for example synaptic) he would also be giving the malware root access, thus doing system wide dmaage07:29
rypervencheI ran a bash script using the "Run" option instead of "Run in terminal", but it needs sudo powers. Will it be running in the background forever until I restart my computer?07:29
mycosysdo you guys know what do-release-upgrade does that synaptic wont? pretty sure do-release-upgrade will break my install in a nasty way... I have a number of repos enabled on jaunty that are a fair way ahead of what is standard on karmic ie mythbuntu weekly builds lol, and winswitch, and deluge, and medibuntu. I have synaptic doing download only atm - so that when it finishes i can chose one or the other. normally use apt-get but synaptic is better at b07:30
red2kicjiltdil: Point your mouse to the Fluffy-Dinosaurs.avi and double-click. Otherwise, use "vlc Fluffy-Dinosaurs.avi"07:30
LanlostI like to try to explain it like "If we were a company that provided storage units, of course we have to do our job to make sure the area is secure.. but if you give someone/lose your key we can't really be responsible if someone 'breaks in.' We WILL try to lock it though if we do happen to come across it."07:30
allu2Linuxpwns: but as i said, if we block user from doing anything i think linux is quite secure system ;)07:30
LinuxpwnsTrue, but the boss will complain of lack of productivity :(07:30
ActionParsniprypervenche: no just kill its PID when you want it to stop07:30
mycosysallu2 - linux on power is good for that lol07:30
Lanlostrypervenche, have you tried running 'top' to see if it's running? It probably ran and closed. Also, try "killall <command/program name>"07:30
rypervencheActionParsnip: How can I find it? I couldn't see it in the top of top.07:31
LinuxpwnsHas anyone heard of "Pwn2Own?"07:31
allu2Linuxpwns: yeah thats a problem :P maybe chroot can help us :P07:31
LanlostIf you have the wrong command it will say "Program: no process found." Or that could mean it literally just didn't run07:31
LanlostLinux_Time, YES! The same guy I was talking about at work mentioned that to me07:31
jiltdilrypervence:set higher priority nice value to see in the top of top07:31
LanlostEr, Linux_Time is supposed to be Linuxpwns07:31
DaPenguinLanlost, usually what I do for my passwords is take a favoride phrase or quote of mine and hash it :P07:31
LinuxpwnsYeah ahha07:31
mycosysi presume upgrading from jaunty to karmic is still supported? have to do it to get to lucid07:32
ActionParsniprypervenche: ps -ef | grep foo   change foo to part of the script name07:32
LinuxpwnsLinux was never hacked in that contest.07:32
LanlostDaPengiun, yes. Isn't that what happens with user passwords anymore by default?07:32
ActionParsnip!eol | mycosys07:32
ubottumycosys: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades07:32
LanlostAs in, inside the passwords file thingy07:32
LinuxpwnsThe first OS to get hacked in every year of that contest has been a Mac surprisngly07:32
LinuxpwnsIn 2008 a mac laptop was hacked in 5 seconds, and in 2009 in 2 minutes.07:32
DaPenguinLanlost, the actual password gets hashed, but the actual cleartext version of my passwords are hashes themselves :P07:32
LanlostWhat version of Ubuntu are we on these days btw? I don't know what the current version is. I'm using Ubuntu Studio, the most recent version I believe.07:33
LinuxpwnsDon't tell mac fanboys that haha07:33
red2kicLinuxpwns: Also, the most easiest OS to recover files from.07:33
LanlostIt, like any other distro, has it's annoyances but in general has been pretty rock solid.07:33
red2kicLanlost: 10.10 -- 11.04 next month.07:33
DaPenguinLanlost, 10.1007:33
toshibamy fire fox browser is not working correctly for video websites anyone got a answer07:33
LinuxpwnsMacintosh has since patched the vulnerabilit07:33
Wolfsherztoshiba, define "not working correctly"...07:33
Linuxpwnsred2kic, what os is that?07:33
ActionParsnipLanlost: latest stable is maverick 10.10 next month natty is unleashed 11.0407:34
LanlostI'm using it for a a ridiculous reason too. While I used to do audio recording/editing.. I'm using it SPECIFICALLY because, my old TV's speakers broke. So I routed the AUDIO only to my soundcards mic-in. The TV was on my desk with my PC so it worked out fine.07:34
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LinuxpwnsI use clonezilla for imaging my computer and regular backups on my 4TB enclosure07:34
red2kicLinuxpwns: Mac.07:34
LanlostThe problem was .. the cable was mono on one end and stereo on the other. So.. all my sound came out of my left speaker. This was annoying but REALLY annoying when using headphones. I used jack to mirror the sound from left channel to right.07:35
mycosysactionparsnip - alredy read the upgrade guide07:35
DaPenguinnix is inherently more secure as it was designed from the ground up as a multi-user system07:35
mycosysjust wanted some1 to answer my question07:35
mycosysdo you guys know what do-release-upgrade does that synaptic wont? pretty sure do-release-upgrade will break my install in a nasty way... I have a number of repos enabled on jaunty that are a fair way ahead of what is standard on karmic ie mythbuntu weekly builds lol, and winswitch, and deluge, and medibuntu. I have synaptic doing download only atm - so that when it finishes i can chose one or the other. normally use apt-get but synaptic is better at b07:35
ruanmac has viruses too07:35
LanlostThe problem was.. Jack had issues with latency, I fixed this.. but then it had issues starting up. I found out about real time kernels.. tried to enable/patch it on mine.. then just installed Ubuntu Studio07:35
mycosyssurely you knew this a few months ago actionparsnip07:36
ActionParsnipmycosys: cool. Personally i'd clean install at least lucid, upgrading twice will take a while07:36
LanlostThe weird thing is.. I get the same result with Ubuntu Studio and it's real time kernel. I swear preformance can be worse overall. With Jack though.. I get this REALLY strange problem. If I started it with RTK support then.. it would run .. but then crash and subsequently the entire system went NUTS.07:36
mycosysnot worried about time07:36
rypervencheI have a bunch of bash scripts in my home folder, and when I 'ls' my home folder most of the script files have tildas after their names. Some even have a normal copy and one with a tilda after it. I edited them with vim recently. Why do I have these copies? I do not see them when I look at the folder in nautilus...07:36
DaPenguinLanlost, my only real issue with ubuntu is how it does the kernel, and the way it handles root access07:36
mycosysbandwidth from au servers is free too07:36
ActionParsnipmycosys: knew what?07:36
mycosysjust want to not break my system07:36
LanlostPrograms would just start immediately crashing to the point where anytime I opened something it IMMEDIATELY crashed. Then my gnome bars would disappear. Eventually nothing except the calculator would be running07:37
DaPenguinLanlost, both of which can be corrected :P07:37
mycosysthe difference between do-release-upgrade, and updating the repos and using dist-upgrade07:37
jrmcmHow do you add repos through synaptic?07:37
ActionParsnipmycosys: what is "this"?07:37
LanlostIn general though, with this real time kernel, preformance seems to be worse in general. I get the 'greying out' (I think a feature of compiz) happened quite frequently at first07:37
LinuxpwnsDaPenguin, one of the reasons I attribute to Linux's security barrier is the fact its open source...   open code means it is seen by "many eyes" ... if a bad guy (black hat) finds a vulnerability, so can a good guy (white hat) patch the vulnerability...07:37
toshibayes07:38
mycosysactionparsnip the difference between do-release-upgrade, and updating the repos and using dist-upgrade07:38
mycosysi have all the repops updated, and synaptic is doing download only as we speak07:38
LanlostFor a long time I only had a gig of ram, but like 128mb of that was being used by onboard video. Programs would grey out all the time,07:39
mycosysif i must i can use do-release-upgrade but it will dsable several repos it seems that are already past what karmic had, necessitating uninstalling a lot of stuff07:39
ActionParsnipJrmcm:copy the ppa address and add that. You can do it in cli with: sudo add-apt-repository address  saves having to dig around in a gui07:39
DaPenguinLinuxpwns, and you don't have to wait for a corporate security team to come out with a patch either :)07:39
LanlostThen, I got more ram.. and it still happens but much less frequently. The only time it happens semi-frequently is with YouTube, and like I Said.. I never see it grey until it snaps back07:39
LinuxpwnsGood point07:40
mycosysshold have stayed on 8.04 lol07:40
LanlostIt's like programs take control of the entire system and it all greys out except that program. You know, now that I think of it.. I wonder if that IS at least PARTIALLY to blame for my flash video issues07:40
LinuxpwnsDaPenguin I gotta admit I'm a big fan of windows server 2008 though...07:40
jrmcmActionParsnip: thx, synaptic wouldnt let me open the repos menu07:40
eamonwhat's the diference between ubuntu and linux mint?07:40
LanlostI love(d) Mint07:41
ActionParsnipmycosys: yes I know why its different and such but that link details the supported way to get the next release if you are eol07:41
DaPenguinLinuxpwns, and i attribute the better security to the fact that ms actually has some competition :)07:41
LanlostIt's probably even better now. I don't know how I found it but I used it at the "Bea" version the first time.. which pretty much WAS Ubuntu with a different (And better) skin07:41
mycosyswould it kill you to explain actionparsnip?07:41
LanlostEamon, last time I used Mint was probably two years ago. I think it's almost it's own distro these days.07:41
mycosyshappy to have you pm07:41
Seven_Six_Twoperformance isn't worse with rt, it's just scheduled differently. and one of the reasons it often fails is that closed source drivers don't allow the kernel to do *all of the scheduling, which causes problems07:42
ActionParsnipJrmcm: i always use the cli, less messing around07:42
Linuxpwnsmintnanny, mintupdate, mintmenu (the best feature), mintbackup, mintassisstant mostly07:42
red2kiceamon: Ubuntu is a supported derivative of Debian. Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu.07:42
mycosyshave neen kickin it with linux and beofre it with sV for 20 years now07:42
ActionParsnipmycosys: explain what?07:42
LanlostBut basically, it's sort of like Ubuntu++ for desktop users. They add it's own 'start menu' type thing. It's got it's own applicaton manager. A few other Mint specific things that go on top of Ubuntu.07:42
DaPenguinActionParsnip, yeah, i'm more comfortable with using a cli than digging through menus to find stuff07:42
Seven_Six_Twousing proprietary nvidia, ati drivers etc is bad with rt kernel07:42
rwwUbuntu is not a supported derivative of Debian :\07:42
LinuxpwnsI have love for Windows though.07:42
mycosyswhat apt-get dist-upgrade wont do i suppose07:42
red2kicUbuntu++? Oh you jest.07:42
rwwwell, it's supported here I guess. but not by Debian ;P07:42
LanlostMy Mint was rock solid and the first distro that I ever felt ANYONE could use. The problem I always had with it is that it ALWAYS eventually broke when I would upgrade it07:42
jrmcmActionParsnip: yeah im just learning cli, ive only been running ubuntu for a few months07:43
eamonLanlost: sounds like ubuntu to me07:43
LanlostAnyone use Kegs, the Apple IIGS Emulator?07:43
mycosysactionparsnip - as i said, the core of my system, mythtv, is already past what was released on karmic07:43
Lanlosteamon, in what way? the upgrading problem?07:43
DaPenguinLanlost, mint is an ubuntu derivitave designed to be even more user friendly than ubuntu07:43
ActionParsnipDaPenguin: gui is nice for new users but the nature of irc lends itself to cli support07:43
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LanlostDaPenguin, yes. Isn't that basically what I said?07:43
Seven_Six_TwoLanlost, I had an Apple IIgs!! after my Apple II+07:43
eamonLanlost: yeah07:43
mycosysi NEED the mythbuntu ppas07:43
user-4ae07:43
jrmcmI just installed K/ubuntu to a usb drive, and when i boot from it the system doesnt recognize my wireless or wired connections.07:44
red2kic"If you have problem with Mint, please don't come here"07:44
red2kicThat advice never worked. :\07:44
user-4ae07:44
LinuxpwnsYou can install the mint menu in Ubuntu. Then bam, Ubuntu + 1 baby07:44
Seven_Six_Twored2kic, any kind of mint, or just peppermint?07:44
ActionParsnip!ppa07:44
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and should be used at your own risk.07:44
LanlostSeven_Six_Two, I realize this is offtopic for this channel, I just wanted to mention that Kegs is an emulator. It's had fullscreen support for Macs but not for Windows or Linux. There is an SDL version that has fullscreen, but it was last updated in 2005. Anyway, I hacked in fullscreen support if anyone wants it.07:44
red2kic!mint | Seven_Six_Two07:44
ubottuSeven_Six_Two: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org07:44
mycosysgawd07:44
red2kicSeven_Six_Two: Anything that isn't Ubuntu.07:44
LanlostOk, back on topic.07:45
ActionParsnipLinuxpwns: ubuntu + guake = bam!07:45
red2kicActionParsnip: tilda? :)07:45
xanax`hello07:45
mycosysactionparsnip - i guess what i am askin is a way to upgrade WITHOUT disabling my ppas07:45
Seven_Six_TwoLanlost, have you posted it anywhere? I'd like to see it. I still have books of basic game code that I spent hours typing when I was younger07:45
mycosysas i said - they are the core of the system07:45
Seven_Six_Twomy cat is not ubuntu. I guess we won't discuss how she smells.07:46
DaPenguinActionParsnip, and sudo lshw -C networking | pastebinit is so much easier and faster than opening up a gui hardware manager and hand pasting it lol07:46
ActionParsnipred2kic: same difference so also bam :-)07:46
red2kicBLAM!07:46
xanax`I am new to linux and I would like gnome to have a bigger screen resolution. It's stuck at 1024x768 but I would like 1680x1050. I have a radeon HD 480007:46
ActionParsnipmycosys: not sure there dude, sorry07:46
red2kicxanax`: That depends on your native monitor resolution. What can it handle in first place?07:47
mycosysapt-get dist-upgrade wont do it?07:47
xanax`yes it can07:47
DaPenguinxanax`, you may need to install fglrx07:47
xanax`ok, I am going to install it.07:47
ActionParsnipDaPenguin: pipe it to xclip and you have gold ;)07:47
rypervencheI have a bunch of bash scripts in my home folder, and when I 'ls' my home folder most of the script files have tildas after their names. Some even have a normal copy and one with a tilda after it. I edited them with vim recently. Why do I have these copies? I do not see them when I look at the folder in nautilus...07:47
red2kicxanax`: Check Additional Drivers under System.07:47
DaPenguinActionParsnip, lol07:47
ActionParsnipDaPenguin: i'm that lazy07:47
jrmcmI just installed K/ubuntu to a usb drive, and when i boot from it the system doesnt recognize my wireless or wired connections.07:48
DaPenguinlol07:48
LinuxpwnsSeven_Six_Two, in  a little under 3 days, we will be "762" hours away from Ubuntu 11.04 release! :P07:49
jiltdilusing mplayer to play my video that is in dvd doenot works i used this  mplayer -cdrom-device /dev/sr0 cdda://      the output is http://img696.imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img696/5613/screenshot1pi.png07:49
ActionParsnipjrmcm: run: sudo lshw -C network   use the product line to find guides07:49
xanax`It seems I already have the proprietary FGLRX ATI/AMD driver07:49
DaPenguinActionParsnip, i actually forgot you could pipe to xclip lol07:49
Linuxpwns!4207:49
ubottuThe Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything.07:49
LinuxpwnsYAY its smart07:49
mycosys:'(07:50
DaPenguinok, so ubottu gets to live today it looks like :)07:50
jiltdil using mplayer to play my video that is in dvd doenot works i used this  mplayer -cdrom-device /dev/sr0 cdda://      the output is   http://img696.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1pi.png/07:50
ActionParsnipDaPenguin: why copy manually when the OS can do it for you ;-)07:50
jrmcmActionParsnip: Thx again07:50
Linuxpwns+1 to anybody who knows whats thats from07:50
ActionParsnipjrmcm: np duder07:50
xanax`does anyone know how to add a screen resolution ?07:51
jrmcmlol07:51
DaPenguinActionParsnip, lol, i think i've found my new favorite pipe :)07:51
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rubydudeubuntu is for douches07:51
rubydudeRubyOS roxorz07:52
rubydudeit's 133707:52
jamesonewhy are notifications SO ANNOYING, you can't close them or anything07:52
Danielcg25rubydude: Seriously? Stop trolling....07:52
rubydudeand ubuntu ain't07:52
vish!launguage | rubydude07:52
Seven_Six_Twojiltdil, why cdda://  ?  that's cd digital audio, no? make sure restricted extras is installed, and you shouldn't need that last bit07:52
rubydudeDanielcg25: I'm not trolling07:52
ActionParsnipLinuxpwns: to understand the answer you must first understand the question07:52
rubydudeI'm serious07:52
vish!language | rubydude07:52
ubotturubydude: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.07:52
rubydudeoooooooh whip out your boooooot07:52
jamesoneI don't see rubydude doing anything wrong.07:52
rubydudeI'm so scared07:52
Danielcg25What's the program for cloning HDDs?07:52
jamesoneAnyways any way to close notifictions?07:53
jamesoneChange them to gnome's superior default at least.. or is this annoying fadeout notifiction Gnome's idea?07:53
rubydudeI'm shaking in my boots07:53
vishjamesone: " <rubydude> ubuntu is for douches " not acceptable here07:53
jamesoneDid he come here just to say that or did he come here and have that sudden realization07:53
litropywhy is my /etc/xorg.conf empty? Since I currently have an hdtv connected via VGA and displaying at a different resolution than my lappy's screen, the settings must be somewhere ...07:53
vishrubydude: if you have any support problems just ask, but take your trolling elsewhere07:54
rubydudelitropy: just use Windows07:54
rubydudeso you don't have to deal with that idiocy07:54
ActionParsnipDanielcg25: partimage or dd will do it (ntfs support is weird but pure Linux will be fine)07:54
vish!ops | rubydude is troll baiting07:54
ubotturubydude is troll baiting: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, bilalakhtar, Jordan_U, or rww!07:54
tsimpsonummk07:54
Linuxpwns!What is the answer to life, the universe and everything?07:54
ravenwhere is the offtopic channel?07:54
red2kicraven: #ubuntu-offtopic07:54
Linuxpwnswhoops07:54
DaPenguinLinuxpwns, and anyone who doesn't know where that quote comes from can just /leave :P07:55
litropyI just want to make sure I'm editing the right file07:55
tsimpsoncs mode -q *!*@adsl-76-254-59-240.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net07:55
Linuxpwnshahah ture dapenguin07:55
ActionParsniplitropy: the OS doesn't ship with xorg.conf but if one is there it will be used07:55
Danielcg25DaPenguin: It comes from....you? =P07:55
DirtyDawgLinuxpwns: 4207:55
litropyActionParsnip, thank you07:55
jrmcmLinuxpwns: and the answer is 4707:56
jsoft42 acatually07:56
LinuxpwnsOf course the greatest show of all time is Stargate SG-107:56
mycosyssg1????????????????////07:56
jrmcmbah07:56
tsimpson!offtopic07:56
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:56
mycosyseven universe is better07:56
jrmcmlol oops sorry all07:56
LinuxpwnsUniverse was a pos07:56
Seven_Six_Tworubydude, what's the alternative? ROS isn't an OS. it's a bad website that pitches ROS poorly.07:57
DaPenguinSeven_Six_Two, a bit late buddy lol07:57
LinuxpwnsThe thing that killed SG1 was Richard Dean Anderson's depature. Losing a guy as great as RDA will hurt you.07:57
Seven_Six_Twoaaw...07:57
Seven_Six_TwoDaPenguin, I was so proud, too...  <hangs head in shame>07:58
DaPenguinSeven_Six_Two, lol07:58
tsimpsonLinuxpwns: go talk about it in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here07:58
Danielcg25Can I clone my entire HDD, partitions and everything?07:59
Seven_Six_TwoDanielcg25, if you want to07:59
Danielcg25Windows 7 makes some 100MB partition. Not sure what it's for but Windows doesn't work without it07:59
jrmcmIs anyone here using or a fan of solid state HD07:59
Danielcg25And I bought a new 1TB drive07:59
Linuxpwnsdaniel, its the built-in recovery enviornment that allows you to recover your computer using a system image you made (if you made it)08:00
lars_bauergot errors when i try to update " http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404  Not Found"08:00
Danielcg25Linuxpwns: Thanks08:00
Seven_Six_TwoDanielcg25, it could be where it hides all of your private info that it collected. or maybe for a page file?08:00
Danielcg25lol08:00
LinuxpwnsDaniel, if you ever hit F8 before 7 booted and you seen the "Repair your computer" link... its booted into that 100mb part of your partition08:01
Seven_Six_TwoDanielcg25, if you want to clone, use dd08:02
chetan_hi all08:02
lars_bauer#join ubuntu.dk08:02
DirtyDawg dd?08:02
jrmcmWhat is the syntax for updating the grub menu from the cli08:02
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Seven_Six_TwoDirtyDawg, not you! the dd utility08:02
DirtyDawgyeah lol, i wondered what it was08:03
LinuxpwnsSeven_Six_Two: I use clonezilla are dd and cz similar?08:03
chetan_Danielcg25: i m using ubuntu 9.10, not getting command for listing contents in root login08:03
DaPenguinlars_bauer,  its actually /join #channel name08:03
Seven_Six_TwoLinuxpwns, not sure. probably not. dd is just a byte copy utility. very powerful, not at all automated08:03
jrmcmWhat is the syntax for updating the grub menu from the cli. I recently removed a few old headers, but they still show on the boot menu.08:04
rypervencheHow can I have some text display and wait for the person to press enter (or any key) before moving on?08:04
ActionParsnipJrmcm: sudo update-grub08:04
chetan_ i m using ubuntu 9.10, not getting command for listing contents in root login08:04
Seven_Six_TwoLinuxpwns, dd can do a lot of things besides backing up and cloning. I used it just today to copy an exact number of bytes from a dvd piped in to md5sum to ensure an iso burned properly08:05
jrmcmAction: thx yet again, lol i tried every other way of putting it,08:05
ActionParsniprypervenche: i believe it's: read08:05
LinuxpwnsNice08:05
ActionParsniprypervenche: you can also use it to get input: INPUTNAME=read   do a quick websearch to verify ;-)08:07
rypervencheActionParsnip: Ok, thank you.08:07
jrmcmActionParsnip: Its still showing 2.6.32-27 32-28 and 32-29. I'm pretty sure I removed them via synaptic. Suggestions?08:08
Seven_Six_Twojrmcm, headers don't show in grub08:09
Seven_Six_Twojrmcm, headers are used to compile kernel modules. the kernel is what grub lists, and removing one should cause grub to update automagically08:09
ActionParsnipjrmcm: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.32-27-generic08:10
ActionParsnipjrmcm: and so on. Update grub will be done automagically08:10
LinuxpwnsGrub.... YOU GOT WHAT I NEEEEEEEEEEEEED08:11
EOF-senseihow does one build the chromium-browser package?08:11
borillionGuys Im having some trouble installing Geda, it compiles fine and then when I launch some of the apps its complaining that it can't find PCB, does anyone have any idea?08:11
EOF-senseithe build tools are not clearly indicates08:11
rypervencheWhy are there tildas after my script names when I ls, but not when I look in nautilus?08:11
jrmcmAction and Seven: love automagically. :)08:12
EOF-senseiLO08:12
ActionParsnipEOF-sensei: there is a daily build ppa if you wish08:12
EOF-senseiActionParsnip: I wish to build it myself08:12
EOF-senseiI know I have enough time08:12
Seven_Six_Tworypervenche, those files are probably opened in an editor08:12
EOF-senseibut the source package doesn't have a build script of any sort08:12
borillionlook for a make file?08:13
nesunoHi! I'm using ubuntu 10.10, and aptitude upgrade says a warning: "untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed". Should I let the install, or there is something going on?08:13
Seven_Six_Tworypervenche, or possibly backups from an editor like emacs if there are duplicates (with and without ~)08:13
ActionParsnipEOF-sensei: that's fine. You'll need to install the build deps as well as build-essential08:13
RobotCowHow do I change firefox to use another language other than the ugly E without changing all my apps?08:13
RubenAlonzohi all, i installed "MacBuntu" theme, looks like mac osx, i was wondering if there was a way to lose or hide the task bar with all the icons that is constant on the left with all the icons?08:13
rypervencheSeven_Six_Two: I edited them with vim, yes. But now I'm not sure which to use...some only have the tilda version, some have both.08:13
RobotCowgreat, facebook records my f'ing ip and location08:14
RobotCowgood thing i used that bitch with tor08:14
Seven_Six_Twonesuno, did you activate nonstandard repositories? did you add the repo's keys to your keyring?08:14
Seven_Six_Tworypervenche, I would go by timestamp.08:14
RubenAlonzobrb08:15
ActionParsnipRobotCow: so what if it does? You won't die if they do..08:15
EOF-senseiActionParsnip: where is the package information08:15
EOF-senseithe build deps are nowhere to be found in list08:15
Seven_Six_TwoRobotCow, did you know that they can track you with the javascript "share on fb" icon on other sites? even when you aren't logged in08:15
EOF-senseiw'ev08:16
jrmcmActionParsnip: My grub menu looks so much better now. Its not a page a a half long :)08:16
EOF-senseiI'll run this automagicalle scripte :P08:16
ActionParsnipEOF-sensei: there is a command to get build deps but i can't recall it due to no sleep08:16
jrmcmSeven_six_two: My grub menu looks so much better now. Its not a page a a half long :)08:16
EOF-senseiI don't like that one of the build dependencies of a browser is apache08:17
ophow to list file in root08:17
ActionParsnipJrmcm: you also get back ~120mb per kernel08:17
jrmcmop: ls08:17
Seven_Six_Twoop, meaning what? in the root of your filesystem?08:17
EOF-senseialong with outdated libcurl dev libraries08:17
jrmcmls /08:17
Seven_Six_Twols /08:17
ActionParsnipfind /    will list EVERY file :-)08:18
MatBoysomeone using the cloud version here ?08:19
froeshi guys .. i am having some problems with my latest install ... the boot gets me to a grub shell... i load the config file and i am able to boot. how can i make it load automatically ?08:19
Seven_Six_TwoMatBoy, iirc that's not until 11.10 or something like that.08:20
DaPenguinfroes, you could try sudo update-grub and see if that fixes the issue08:20
jiltdilhow to open a video in termainl using vlc?08:20
murphylanhi08:20
HuckI have asked questions about sound juicer here on several occasions with no reply, is this the correct place to ask ?08:20
froesDaPenguin, have done that but still the same08:20
llutzjiltdil: vlc /path/to/video08:20
murphylanI can not install mysql-server on ubuntu10.408:20
murphylanwho can help me08:20
froesDaPenguin, done update-grub208:20
MatBoySeven_Six_Two: 10.10 server shows me the option during install08:21
bazhangHuck, whats the question08:21
murphylanI execute apt-get install mysql-server08:21
RobotCowmulicheng -> i can08:21
DaPenguinfroes, hmm, did tou check grub.cfg to make sure the uuids were accurate?08:21
EOF-senseimurphylan: pastebin the output08:21
froesDaPenguin, yeap ...08:21
RobotCowmulicheng -> i have a mysql server running and working08:21
jiltdilllutz; is it play video in terminal or outside terminal08:21
bazhangRobotCow, you mean murphylan08:21
Seven_Six_TwoHuck, not really. it's not ubuntu specific08:22
froesDaPenguin, and it boots once i have loaded the cfg file08:22
llutzjiltdil: it starts vlc, running outside terminal08:22
murphylanRobotCow: can you help me, what is means?08:22
DaPenguinfroes, hmm, so it's not seeing the config on initial bootup08:22
RobotCowmurphylan -> I can help08:22
bazhangSeven_Six_Two, sure it is, it s in the repos08:22
RobotCowmurphylan -> what's your native language?08:22
Huckwhen I drag an audio file to a a folder, it is almost twice the size of the wave file created by juicer,08:22
murphylanenglish08:22
jiltdilllutz: is there any way to play it under termainl08:22
froesDaPenguin, using bootcfg (hd0 .....08:22
froesDaPenguin, thats what i think08:22
murphylanRobotCow:08:22
RobotCowmurphylan -> no, it's not english.08:22
RobotCowmurphylan -> what is it?08:23
EOF-sensei:S08:23
llutzjiltdil: console (tty1..tty6) you mean?  using framebuffer it should be possible08:23
bazhangHuck, what is the end goal here? rip cds and get mp3? something other? please clarify08:23
MatBoybut what I wanted to know... this way of "clouding" is free, so not like landscape ?08:23
murphylanRobotCow: I don't see your means.08:23
jiltdilllutz:how to do this08:23
EOF-sensei>.<08:23
bazhangMatBoy, clouding what08:23
RobotCowmurphylan -> what's your first language?08:23
bazhangEOF-sensei, please stop that08:23
DaPenguinfroes, hmm, may want to check the grub.cfg to make sure it's looking at the right partition for it08:23
llutzjiltdil: idk, i never done that08:23
murphylanChinese08:24
murphylanRobotCow: chinese08:24
RobotCowmurphylan -> oh, nevermind. I don't speak that one.08:24
HuckI want the highest quality audio I can get stored on HD for playing into an audiophile system08:24
RobotCowmurphylan -> but i can help with mysql08:24
jiltdilllutz:thanx for giving idea i will try08:24
murphylanRobotCow: let go08:24
bazhangHuck, you want FLAC?08:24
MatBoybazhang: installing a cloud using ubuntu08:24
EOF-senseimurphylan: try $sudo apt-get update08:25
bazhangMatBoy, please clarify how you want to do that08:25
llutzHuck: you want vinyl, nothing digital08:25
nixjrSeven_Six_Two, i had to restart X to get my monitor changes to take effect, i didnt come back here afterwards cause its working correctly now, thanks for helping out08:25
Huckmp3's are too lossy, as are ogg, waves from a cd are twice the size and flack are about the same as a lossless wave riped from juicer08:25
Seven_Six_Twonixjr, np!08:25
EOF-senseithen $sudo apt-get upgrade08:26
EOF-senseithis will ensure that the current versions of other packages are not withholding the version of mysql in the repositories08:26
nixjrSeven_Six_Two, i got a folow up question now though lol, when i right click an application on the taskbar theres a "move to another workstation" option, how can a move something to another X session?08:26
Seven_Six_Twobazhang, I read the cloud page too fast! It says "Eucalyptus is the technology at the core of UEC – and will be in Ubuntu 11.04"08:26
MatBoybazhang: ubuntu server has a cloud function. so you can install using 2 dedicated servers a small cloud. I wonder if there are any costs about it like you have with landscape when you want to manage your servers08:26
Seven_Six_Twobazhang, "as it has been since 9.04"   oops!08:26
Huckllutz , I am an eng, any old dual amp tubes using matched tubes are a thing of the past, also, try to get a real stylis for any good cartrige any longer.08:27
MatBoySeven_Six_Two: yes so the question is if we have to pay for Euxalyptus08:28
Seven_Six_Twonixjr, well, I haven't done separate x screens, but I've looked into moving running processes, and the general consensus is that you can't do it for a variety of reasons. some of them being memory allocation done by the process when it started08:28
bazhangMatBoy, I'd ask in #ubuntu-cloud08:29
RocketLauncherkoalas eat Eucalyptus.08:29
MatBoynixjr: why other x session ? you have mutliple desktops08:29
MatBoybazhang: :)08:29
nixjrMatBoy, yes08:29
froesDaPenguin, if you are talking about each menu entry yes08:29
froesDaPenguin, as i said, it boots perfectly, it just seems that it is not searching for any file08:29
froesDaPenguin, like it was the grub rescueCD08:29
viktorastwager: i don't care that you can't08:29
Seven_Six_Twonixjr, because separate x screens means separate x sessions08:29
MatBoybazhang: only me in there :P08:29
nixjrSeven_Six_Two, you can probably tell im very new to ubuntu so thanks for just giving it to me a nutshell and not sending me down some complex path08:30
bazhangMatBoy, there are 51 users in there : #ubuntu-cloud08:30
Seven_Six_Twonixjr, that's what I read when I was trying to make dual head big desktop08:30
nesunoSeven_Six_Two: I enabled main, universe, restricted, multiverse, and from other: third party software (it is extras.ubuntu.com). I didn't bothered with keys, and it worked yet.08:30
Seven_Six_Twonixjr, feel free to search though, and if you figure out how to move a running process, tell me! I'd love to know08:31
twagerviktoras: can't ?08:31
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Seven_Six_Twonesuno, no other ppa's or third party repos, like google?08:31
froesdo anyone knows how to reinstall grub inside the mbr ?08:31
Jordan_Ufroes: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc08:32
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nesunoSeven_Six_Two: no. All the reops ends with ....ubuntu.com.08:32
nixjrSeven_Six_Two, i managed to fix my own problem before by editing xorg.conf and swapping monitor0 and monitor1 around, that was scary enough, i dont think ill look too deeply into moving running processes08:32
Jordan_Ufroes: That will not only run grub-install (and update-grub) but prompt you for what devices should be installed to on future upgrades.08:32
MatBoybazhang: oh ? mhh08:32
Seven_Six_Twonesuno, it might be because if extras. that's just a warning because you don't have the keys installed. the install should still work fine, but you're more at risk08:33
froeshave tried installing grub by doing a grub-install /dev/sda but it gives me no menu i have to load manually the file08:33
MatBoybazhang: not in @ubuntu-cloud... oops!08:33
Jordan_Ufroes: Do you have more than one hard drive?08:33
Seven_Six_Twofroes, what file are you loading?08:33
jrmcmActionParsnip: lshw -C network mean list network hardware?08:33
nesunoSeven_Six_Two: I have keys for ubuntu extras. It is listed as "Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key".08:34
red2kicjrmcm: lshw (list hardware); -C network just grab the network class (information under network)08:35
Kimmenhello, any1 good with tmux and scripting? I'm trying to make a script that autostarts irssi and adds the nicklist in a split window08:35
Kimmenin tmux08:35
Seven_Six_Twonesuno, that's the one...hmmm...can you see what repository the software came from?08:35
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jrmcmred2kic: ok yeah thats what i thought, and what it seemed to output, thx08:35
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jrmcmIn xchat can i auto ident my nick?08:37
Kimmenq08:37
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froesJordan_U, yes08:37
froesJordan_U, got about 4 in there08:37
Jordan_Ufroes: Most likely you are not booting from sda.08:37
Jordan_Ufroes: (in the BIOS)08:38
Jordan_Ufroes: You can always choose to install grub to all drives so it doesn't matter what the boot order is. If you do that though be sure to use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" to be sure that they will all also get properly upgraded.08:39
Seven_Six_Twomust sleep now. night all.08:40
nesunoSeven_Six_Two: There was something with the Hungarian mirror.  Now I switched to the main site, and it works (keys are also ).08:40
nesunoSeven_Six_Two: keys are also ok, no warning.08:41
viktorastwager: i don't care that you can't08:41
nesunoSeven_Six_Two: Thanks the help!08:41
Seven_Six_Twonesuno, then they did their job!08:41
jiltdilllutz: to play video under terminal i found this but this is not working fine see and help please sudo mplayer -vo svga -ao sdl movie.avi08:41
Seven_Six_Twonp08:41
bazhangviktoras, pardon?08:41
viktorasbazhang: ?08:41
aslanhi, i work in hospital and we have almost 150 client, we try to use Active Directory Domain Controller, but if we do this, we will have so much money to pay for licence. i want to install computers ubuntu. our hospital software works in linux. and i want to make something like windows Active Directory system, i hear about openldap and pfsense. i take a look of them and these are so confused for me. does anyone suggest me a good software same active directory ?08:42
aslanbut i want software that can be controlled with a good user interface. thanks.08:42
pie_is it just me or does ubutu suck at hibernating?08:42
bazhangviktoras, twager is not even in the channel; what are you talking about08:42
viktorashe will be08:42
bazhangviktoras, saying I dont care is not helpful08:42
viktorasbazhang: what do i get for the help?08:44
daniel3What desktop environment does Ubuntu or Netbooks run?08:44
bazhangviktoras, if you wish to help be helpful; chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please08:44
daniel3Is it like a modified Gnome or something08:44
DaPenguinnot sure, probably gnome08:44
viktorasdaniel3: gnome08:44
bazhangdaniel3, unity?08:44
Seven_Six_Twoaslan, do you just want to let people log on and have certain groups allowed to access specific files and directories, while other groups have different access?08:44
viktorasthe last version of it08:44
austiniumhi, iam trying to install ubuntu 10.04 using the minimal cd mini.iso08:45
bazhangviktoras, thats not so08:45
viktorasyes it is08:45
austiniumi need lightweight GNOME desktop08:45
daniel3ah yeah it is Unity.08:45
austiniumwith just firefox in it08:45
aslanSeven_Six_Two: yes this is how u say i want truly08:45
austiniumand gdm (for logins)08:45
austiniumanyone here done something similar before?08:45
Kimmenaustinium: just install gnome core08:46
Seven_Six_Twoaslan, that's already built in to linux permissions. you have owner permissions, group permissions, and world permissions. files and directories can be attached to groups, and you also attach users to groups, giving them those permissions.08:46
JemtHello follow Ubuntuers. Does Ubuntu contain a package with additional WiFi drivers? I'm remastering Ubuntu, and would like to ensure the best possible support for wireless network adapters08:46
austiniumKimmen: ok, whats in it?08:47
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bazhangJemt, the linux-backports-modules08:47
Kimmenaustinium: core gnome, so you can run gnome08:47
bazhangJemt, err linux-backports-wireless-modules08:47
aslanSeven_Six_Two: i am newbie at linux , i start to use last 1 month, you say i can manage all stuff you say in linux, without a software ? and can be controller from an admin ?08:47
Jemtbazhang: Is sounds like a whole lot of packages (?)08:47
Seven_Six_Twoaslan, if you want to have one pc's partition available on other pc's, just export them with nfs08:47
Jemtbazhang: Oh, that makes sense :)08:48
Kimmenaustinium: no eye candy or extras08:48
Jemtbazhang: Thanks a lot - I'll look into it :)08:48
red2kicaslan: You probably want to try asking in #ubuntu-server too08:48
froes_Jordan_U, thanks ... the reconfigure worked perfectly08:48
austiniumiam trying to avoid stuff like plymouth, evolution etc08:48
Jordan_Ufroes_: You're welcome.08:48
Seven_Six_Twoaslan, if you're root, you have all of the control. when you do    ls -l    in the terminal, you see the permissions as groups of letters...for example   drwxrwxrwx08:49
incorrecti read somewhere that unity was going to be the default desktop of 11.04?08:49
aslanred2kic: Seven_Six_Two : thank you very much i will take a look of ubuntu-server channel08:49
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jrib!natty | incorrect08:50
ubottuincorrect: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.08:50
austiniumok, its a ~94mb download - gnome-core08:50
Seven_Six_Twoaslan, the first character is the type of entry. d is directory. c is character device.   then the next 9 are read,write,execute  for user,group,worls08:50
Seven_Six_Twoworld08:50
heyguiseha08:50
heyguisefinally08:50
varunhi08:50
heyguiseif the dude who pointed mt to joy2pad is still here, thanks08:50
heyguisehi varun08:51
Shuujin96is 11.04 out already?08:51
aslanSeven_Six_Two: thank you, because of i am newbie, i thought it would be better with a good software GUI  , but i will take ur advice.08:51
froes_but now guys i have a new problem ... everything is mounted perfectly, but one my harddrives, that can be mounted and acessed, shows as unpartitioned space on gparted. what can it be ? what should i do ?08:51
Seven_Six_Twoaslan, try to master the command line. if you have to admin, there's nothing worse than being stuck in a gui that doesn't work, doesn't do what you want. etc08:52
austiniuminstalling gnome-core+gdm should get the user to a GUI login screen at bootup right?08:52
aslanSeven_Six_Two: thank you very much.08:52
Seven_Six_Twoaslan, check out  http://www.tldp.org08:52
Seven_Six_Twonp08:52
austiniumKimmen:installing gnome-core+gdm should get the user to a GUI login screen at bootup right?08:52
bonjoyeeaustinium: you also need xorg-server08:53
varunubuntu natty server please08:53
Kimmenaustinium: it should yes08:53
austiniumbonjoyee:its is pulling in quite a few xserver-xorg related packages as dependencies08:54
varunhi friends,how to join ubuntu natty server08:54
bazhangvarun, /j #ubuntu+108:55
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bonjoyeeaustinium: building from a minimal iso?08:55
austiniumbonjoyee:yes08:55
bonjoyeeaustinium: ok..08:55
austiniumvarun: what do you mean by join?08:55
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Shuujin96hardware driver. is a major problem in ubuntu, and other linuxes right? how to install the driver in ubuntu?08:58
DaPenguinShuujin96, what driver?08:58
Shuujin96well, VGA, sound?08:59
VEndixis this a spamming channel?08:59
VEndixgo there go there08:59
bazhangVEndix, no08:59
DaPenguinShuujin96, the basic drivers should be installed by default08:59
VEndixso don't go anywhere08:59
VEndixthis is the official ubuntu help channel08:59
DaPenguinShuujin96, if you want the proprietary binary ones you can install them via the restricted-drivers installer09:00
bazhangShuujin96, system --> administration --> additional drivers09:01
Shuujin96okay, thanks for the answers.. that seems easy just like device manager..:D09:03
Shuujin96on win..09:04
vlado_anyone know why cant browse/copy share folders on lan (only to preview)?09:06
oasisTopherHello, I have ubuntu 10.04 and whenever I run sudo shutdown now from the command line it freezes, have to manually hit the power switch.  however sudo reboot now works!09:06
bonjoyeeoasisTopher: tried "sudo shutdown -h now"?09:07
llutzoasisTopher: try "suddo halt"09:07
llutzsudo*09:07
bonjoyeeoasisTopher: for reboot try sudo shutdown -r now09:07
austiniumvlado_:open nautilus09:07
oasisTopheryeah I don't want to reboot, I want to shut  down.  so halt will be graceful?09:07
n_aksudo poweroff maybe?09:08
austiniumvlado_:click Go>Loacation...then type sftp09:08
Perinolahello all09:08
Perinolahello Alma09:08
austiniumvlado_:http://postneo.com/2005/02/26/when-things-just-work-nautilus-and-sftp09:09
varunhi,i am unable to install simple compizconfig in ubuntu 11.0409:09
varunhelp please09:09
red2kicn_ak:poweroff --> halt09:09
jrib!natty | varun09:09
ubottuvarun: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.09:09
curiousxhi all =)09:10
devilchaoshi guys ive committed the cardinal sin and changed my root passwd and forgot it doh is there anyway i can try and change it or jog my memory some how?09:10
AlmaNegrahello perinola09:10
austiniumbonjoyee & Kimmen: gnome-core + GDM installed, it pulled in plymouth from the repos...iam having a look at what else has been installed ;)09:11
jribdevilchaos: do you want to return ubuntu to its original state where there is no root password?  Or do you want to set a new root password?09:11
oasisTopherllutz  red2kic should I halt -f?09:11
oasisTopherllutz  red2kic should I halt -f?09:12
red2kicoasisTopher: Try halt if you haven't. If that doesn't work, well, try -f. I don't really know.09:12
devilchaosjust need it changed which ever is easiest need to remove a few linux images from boot part as im low on space there ?!09:12
llutzoasisTopher: try "sudo halt"   before forcing something09:12
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jribdevilchaos: well your first account can still sudo.  You can set a new password for root the same way you did it originally using sudo.  If you want to re-disable the root account, then you can do: sudo usermod -p '!' root09:13
devilchaosi love freenode.com09:13
hjr778hello09:14
cyclist_2Hello, there! is anyone here familiar with the application 'gpgdir'? It works well, until I add a file to an already encrypted directory; upon running the command 'gpgdir -O --skip-test --encrypt /this/directory' I get the following error messages: '[GNUPG:] BAD_PASSPHRASE' and '[*] Bad passphrase, try gpgdir with -v at /usr/bin/gpgdir line 624.'; now, if I decrypt the directory, add the new file to it and then encrypt it again, it works as09:14
oasisTopherthank you, goin now09:14
devilchaoscool jrib thanks09:14
jribcyclist_2: I don't think I will be able to help you, but your message was truncated at "it works as"09:15
hjr778anybody can speak chinese?09:15
jrib!cn | hjr77809:15
jrib:/09:15
ubottuhjr778: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道:打字 /join #ubuntu-cn 或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-tw  或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-hk09:16
cyclist_2jrib: ...add the new file to it and then encrypt it again, it works as before, but I believe it should also work the way I am trying to do it; or not...?09:16
hjr778i am a fresh man09:16
jribcyclist_2: I have no experience with gpgdir09:16
jiltdilframebuffer drivers for ubuntu?09:16
hjr778this is the first time to use linux os09:16
FloodBot1!netsplit09:16
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jiltdilis ubuntu uses idk as framebuffer09:16
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit09:16
llutzjiltdil: "idk" == i don't know09:16
devilchaoswow no pastes still rule in here?09:17
jiltdilllutz:ok please tell me which drivers it used as framebuffer09:17
devilchaosoops nootifications still on duh09:17
llutzjiltdil: "idk" == i don't know   <- it has a i reason i wrote that, i really don't know, i don't care about video/framebuffer and all that stuff09:17
devilchaosvesa is a default driver that used fb mode09:18
VE2EBPguys, what app should I run as server for VNC remote desktop viewer?09:18
devilchaosim lead to belive09:18
jrib!vnc | VE2EBP09:18
ubottuVE2EBP: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX09:18
VE2EBPjrib I need something so that when I'm across the country, I can see my computer remotely09:19
mycosysve2ebp try window switch09:20
rfvhello...:)09:20
VE2EBPmycosys is this an app?09:20
jiltdildevilchaos:thanx09:20
mycosysyup09:20
VE2EBPok09:20
VE2EBPWhere can I get this mycosys09:21
mycosyswinswitch.org09:21
VE2EBPgreat thanks mycosys09:21
mycosysthere is a ppa for ubunty, i think maverick it is in the distro?09:21
rfvi just installed Ubuntu 10.10 on a 1280*800 max res screen, and even after updating Ubuntu and the specific hardware..i am still stuck to 800*60009:21
mycosyshas a choice of connection methods09:21
rfvall the dpkg-reconf and xorg stuff open balnk files09:21
rfvhelp ?..:)09:22
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amalgamawhen i double click a .zip or .rar file, it is mounted as, lets say, a hard drive.. is that normal behavour??09:22
mycosyswhat video are you using rfv?09:22
amalgama*behaviour09:22
maystreetHi, my I've just noticed my disk usage is a 97%, is there an easy way to track down the files taking up so much space?09:22
rfvsis09:23
mycosysouch09:23
jribmaystreet: Disk Usage Analyzer in your Accessories menu09:23
maystreetjrib: no gui09:23
cyclist_2jrib: thank you, all the same.09:23
mycosyscould try restricted hardware drivers09:23
rfvwhere is that ?09:23
mycosysin the settings menu iirc09:23
mycosysor system09:23
jribmaystreet: use du and find then09:23
mylistocan anyone recommend a data scraping program for linux?09:24
shruggarsince upgrading to 10.04, my windows keep becoming "stuck" so that they are always under other windows. When this happens, the gnome-panel often turns invisible. Usually this is corrected by hitting alt+f2 and typing "metacity --replace" or "compiz --replace", but the solution is often very temporary, sometimes failing again as soon as I switch to another window.   Any ideas?09:24
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maystreetjrib: I am but du is not giving the kind of definition I'm hoping for. Is there a command line tool that can make a baobab style image and export it as a png or the like?09:24
devilchaosWicked a Wicked a Jungle is Massifffffffffffffff!!!!09:25
devilchaosthanks jrib worked a treat09:25
rfvchececk the update settings and no "restricted hardware drivers"09:25
rfvwhat is iirc ?09:25
mycosyshttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man4/sis.4.html rfv09:26
mycosysiirc = if i remember correctly09:26
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mycosysgtg09:26
devilchaosgood to go09:26
devilchaosttfn lol09:27
devilchaos;oP09:27
rfvok thanks mycosys..:)09:28
chantineed help for install kde in ubuntu 10.409:28
ouyeswhat is your problem when installing?09:28
chantiouyes, some error occur, whilie intalling09:29
Laurencebis there a way to connect to bluetooth serial modules without sudo?09:30
Laurencebsudo rfcomm --raw connect 4  <--better than that?09:30
chantiouyes,kde:09:30
chanti Depends: kde-core (>=5:48ubuntu1) but it is not installable09:30
santhcamera09:30
ouyespaste the errors to paste.com09:30
jribmaystreet: I do not know of such a program.  What isn't du doing that you want it to do?09:30
VCooliomaystreet: maybe you like discus http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/discus.htm09:30
chantiouyes: ok09:30
santhhow to make the built in camera work09:31
ouyeschanti, what system are you runing now?09:31
santhcan someone help me out09:31
ouyeschanti, open a terminal and run uname -ra09:31
chantiouyes, dell inspiron09:31
VCooliomaystreet: here's a list of tools that look nice http://www.ubuntugeek.com/hard-disk-usage-and-availability-report-tools.html09:31
maystreetjrib: hey sorry it keeps looking at hidden files (don't need it to do) and then going deep into directories hiding the total size of a directory making it really tricky to drill down09:32
maystreetVCoolio: cheers09:32
chantiouyes,Linux sasi 2.6.32-30-generic #59-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 1 21:30:21 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux09:33
* uLuBeY : Hello09:33
jribmaystreet: I would do something like: du -sh */  Find a big target, then move inside09:33
ouyeschanti, how do you install kde?09:33
maystreetjrib: neat, shall try09:33
chantiouyes, through synaptic package manager09:34
jribmaystreet: if you're in a place with lots of output, you can drop the -h and then pass to pipe to sort -n to make it a little easier to find the larger directories09:35
ouyeschanti, you like kde or you want a try?09:35
chantiouyes, yes09:35
maystreetjrib: oh didn't think of that, but it makes sense. Thanks!09:35
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quiescensmaystreet: what's wrong with boabab itself?09:35
jribmaystreet: the other approach is to just look for big files.  You could use find for that (it has some sort of size argument)09:35
quiescenser09:35
quiescensbaobab09:35
maystreetquiescens: the computer has no gui (and hence no gnome)09:35
chantiouyes, now i am tying apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:35
ouyeschanti, how does it go?09:36
maystreetjrib: yep, I just have a sneaky feeling some idiot has gone and copied a massive directory over and over again somewhere else09:36
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chantiouyes, installing is going on09:36
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quiescensmaystreet: ah09:37
chantiouyes, one doubt; after intalling kubuntu, can i use gnome again09:37
ruanchanti: yes, switch back to ubuntu-desktop09:37
quiescensmaystreet: i would probably try something like ncdu09:37
ouyeschanti, there are three ways to install a package in ubuntu at least,  apt-get install, software center and synaptic manager09:37
chantiruan, thank you09:38
maystreetquiescens: looks neat, shall gave it a bash. Thanks!09:38
extra11ouyes no apitude?09:38
ouyesextra11, I use sudo09:39
chantiouyes, what is the difference among them, i would like to know09:39
ruanat the login screen, switch to whichever desktop envir. you want09:39
jiltdilwhich framebuffer drivers does ubuntu uses?09:39
chantiruan, thanks again. great guidance09:40
ouyeschanti, depend on what you are prefer,09:40
chantiouyes, thank you , i will try09:40
ouyeschanti, actually, I am a newbie here, although I have been running ubuntu since 8.0409:41
famthegeekwmware or virtualbox for ubuntu 10.04 LST?09:42
chantiouyes, i am little bit junior to you, i have been running 8.1009:42
ruanfamthegeek: virtualbox has more popularity among linux users09:42
jiltdilwhich framebuffer drivers does ubuntu uses?09:43
chantiouyes, ruan, why should not we install through synaptic package manager in 10.409:43
zxiestWhat command should I use to get info about my os?09:44
oCeanzxiest: what info?09:44
zxiestoCean version, memory usage.. etc09:44
zxiestbasic info09:45
ouyeschanti, maybe synaptic is less smart than apt-get install09:45
jiltdilzxiest:lsb_release -a    free -m09:45
oCeanzxiest: there is a lot. lsb_release -a will show version info09:45
oCeanzxiest: you can use 'top' for running processes and their resource usage09:45
zxiestcool :-)09:45
ouyeschanti, there are some dependencies for a particular package,09:45
zxiestThanks09:45
zxiestDarn.. I have 8.10 ..09:46
zxiestThis is too old, right?09:46
oCeanzxiest: commands as 'vmstat 1' shows info on memory usage09:46
chantiouyes, ofcouse i agree with you,09:46
oCean!8.10 | zxiest09:46
ubottuzxiest: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) was the ninth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 30th, 2010. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.09:46
zxiestHmmm..09:46
zxiestLet's get another one :-)09:47
zxiestThanks !09:47
chantiouyes , any way let me try once kde, i am going to log off , thanks a lot09:47
ouyeschanti, you are welcom09:47
jiltdilwhich framebuffer drivers does ubuntu uses?09:48
asiekierkahi09:48
asiekierkamy DSi requires me to use AAC09:48
asiekierkabut i can't get faac to work09:48
asiekierkaon my test .WAV file (made by decoding a .MP3 with lame)09:48
asiekierkait crashes after under 1%09:48
asiekierkaand the resulting .aac only has the first few seconds09:48
kevin01234i need to make aplay command run in the background to keep my sound card "on", or programs crash due to a power saving "feature". how can I do this?09:53
kevin01234i've tried putting it in startup scripts, but aplay doesn't run unless *I* run it fro a command line09:53
ikoniakevin01234: aplay &09:54
jribkevin01234: hmm, can you be more specific about what you tried?09:54
ruanyep, &09:54
kevin01234there's supposedly a feature with the snd_hda_intel driver to disable the power saving, but it is already set to 0 (off) and it still does this09:55
kevin01234if i hit alt+f2 in gnome and type aplay, it doesn't stay running, but if I do it in a terminal it does09:55
jribkevin01234: did you see my question?09:56
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kevin01234yes i tried aplay & but then I have to leave the window open09:56
asiekierkagot it to work09:56
jribkevin01234: you said you tried to put it in startup scripts...?09:56
ruankevin01234: hmm. start gnome-terminal -x aplay   and leave it on another workstation?09:57
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ruanworkspace**09:58
blip-ubuntu 10.10 has no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file... have I missed some major changes ?09:58
jribblip-: yes09:58
ruansomehow i still have a xorg.conf file09:59
red2kicruan: gnome-terminal -x aplay? Are you for real?09:59
jribblip-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config09:59
blip-thanks jrib09:59
ruanred2kic: what's wrong with that?09:59
kevin01234well aplay wavfile.wav works from the alt+f2 menu, but I don't actually want it to play anything :) i just want it to keep the sound card open09:59
jribkevin01234: you said you tried to put it in startup scripts.  What exactly did you try?10:00
waiHow long does it takes to create a server pls?10:00
red2kicruan: I don't see the -x option in "gnome-terminal --help-all"10:00
kevin01234things like /etc/rc.local10:00
jrib!startup10:00
ubottuTo add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot10:00
ruanred2kic: im running irssi off gnome-terminal  -t irssi -x irssi -c irc.freenode.net right now10:00
jribkevin01234: see that link and put aplay in your session startup10:00
kevin01234i also tried startup prefs in gnome10:00
ruanwai: depends on what type of server you want to create10:01
jribkevin01234: and what happened when you tried that?  What exactly did you try?10:01
kevin01234i jsut created a new item and put aplay & as the command10:01
jribkevin01234: no &10:01
waiI would like to transfer some music or videos from one computer to an other10:01
kevin01234i think the issue is that by defaullt, aplay reads from stdin but if you're not on a terminal it can't10:02
waiOr taking control of my computer from an other i don't know how to explain10:02
kevin01234because it will happily play a wav file that way, but not just stay running when I launch it10:02
scarleowai: You have Ubuntu on both computers?10:03
waiYes!10:03
kevin01234maybe there's a daemon I can use just to keep the sound card open10:03
ruanred2kic: try running "gnome-terminal -x sleep 5". it will run a gnome-terminal for 5 seconds10:03
scarleowai: you can share files with NFS, to take control of the other use remote desktop, it's in the system menu10:04
waiThanks NFS thats what i was thinking of, is it really hard?10:04
scarleo!nfs | wai10:05
ubottuwai: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.10:05
red2kicruan: It worked -- but I don't know why -x isn't in the --help section.10:05
waiOK i will check that guys thx10:06
ruanred2kic: same10:06
jribkevin01234: well the ideal solution is to figure out why the driver option didn't work.  But try just using "aplay" as the command in gnome's session preferences10:06
zxiestI'm picking an unbuntu version to use in production... Any obvious drawbacks for picking 10.10 glassfish over 10.04 server?10:08
jribzxiest: "glassfish"?10:08
ruanglassfish... what10:08
YankDownUnderThe glass might break...10:08
zxiestjrib nvm... Copied it from ec210:08
zxiestI thought it was an Ubuntu version name lol10:09
ruanlol10:09
YankDownUnder10.10 works lovely as a server.10:09
YankDownUnder...I just keep the glass clean...10:09
jribzxiest: the main advantage of 10.04 server is it will have support for 5 years (so 5 years until you *need* to upgrade).  With 10.10, there's 18 months of support (then you *need* to upgrade)10:09
zxiestWhat does "need to upgrade" mean?10:10
YankDownUnderFrom a support standpoint...10:10
ruanupgrade or get no support10:10
jribzxiest: means packages are no longer supported (you don't get security updates)10:10
YankDownUnderI still have a few RH9 servers about...10:10
ruanyep10:10
zxiestI see..10:10
ruanno updates at all for some10:10
zxiestAha..10:10
tom453642356Can someone help with Skype please?10:10
zxiestI think I'll go with 10.10 :-)10:11
zxiestThanks guys!10:11
Alex_Is there an official netbook 10.10 torrent?10:11
* YankDownUnder checks to see if I'm accidentally in the Skype channel...10:11
ruanAlex_: possibly. i'll check10:11
Alex_thanks :)10:11
jrib!skype | tom45364235610:11
ubottutom453642356: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga10:11
ruanAlex_: http://ftp.ticklers.org/releases.ubuntu.org/releases//maverick/ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent10:11
ruanoops10:11
YankDownUnderzxiest, I know you'll like 10.04...truly...10:11
ruanwrong one10:11
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ruanhttp://ftp.ticklers.org/releases.ubuntu.org/releases//maverick/ubuntu-10.10-netbook-i386.iso.torrent10:12
zxiestYankDownUnder I'll like 10.10 as well :-)10:12
tom453642356Webcam problem: in skype the image is really dark. when i use GUVCViewer, the image isn't dark. The viewer app must correct the image, but Skype doesnt?10:12
oCeanAlex_: all images are here http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/10:12
potentadoes lvpm work with ubuntu 10.10 ?10:12
Alex_Thanks.10:12
YankDownUnderzxiest, I've got it on a few servers - and am extremely happy with it's overall performance and ease of maint/admin...10:13
zxiestYankDownUnder you mean 10.10 ?10:13
YankDownUnderzxiest, Ya mon...10.10 => got it on a few servers...10:13
KimmenI have it on my home server, runs great10:13
zxiestYankDownUnder cool .. :-)10:13
Kimmen250mb ram with everything running (no X)10:14
xgt001hey every one10:14
zxiestAny chance you guys have a 10.10 on EC2 ?10:14
xgt001i have so many issues with lucid and meerkat :(10:14
Kimmenhardware or software?10:14
xgt001hardware10:14
Kimmenwith what specifically?10:15
xgt001my laptop runs bad in lucid and maverick10:15
xgt001specifically10:15
xgt001it runs very noisy10:15
xgt001and battery life is very less10:15
xgt001compared to win 710:15
oCeanxgt001: do you have a support question?10:16
oCean!here10:16
ubottuPlease give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. If you have to use more than 3 lines, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com10:16
Kimmenah, the system probably cant use fan control etc and acpi10:16
xgt001Kimmen: how u do tat in a gui10:16
Kimmenxgt001: do what?10:16
xgt001fan control?10:16
ravenhow to stop iptables10:17
oCeanraven: it is called ufw10:17
Kimmenxgt001: don't know since I never had the problem, either google/search the forums or hope that some1 in here can help with it =)10:17
ruanraven: ufw stop10:17
ruanraven: sudo ufw stop10:17
ruandisable*10:17
xgt001i did a lot off googlin but it aint help10:18
ruanraven: sudo ufw disable10:18
Kimmenxgt001: what make and model is your laptop?10:19
xgt001hp g42...10:19
xgt001core i3, 3gb ddr310:19
xgt001500gb10:19
xgt001ati radeon 637010:19
oCeanxgt001: keep your questions/answers in single line please10:20
masok..thank...im new comer..10:20
masfrom indonesia10:21
oCeanHi mas, do you have a support question?10:21
oCeanmas, there is also an indonesian channel10:21
oCean!id | mas10:21
ubottumas: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia10:21
YankDownUnderHmmm...funny - I'm finding a heap of hardware issues with the HP G42 running literally ANY type of linux or BSD....10:21
xgt001my issues are10:21
xgt0011) laptop runs very noisy in Ubuntu.... windows runs very quiet10:21
xgt0012) battery life is almost half of what it gives in windows 710:21
masno...just my fiest check in...tks10:21
xgt0013) ati graphics driver runs badly even though its up to date....video tearing never stops10:21
FloodBot3xgt001: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:21
masthanks ocean10:22
YankDownUnderSounds like the machine is a "Win-Machine" only...which isn't suprising...10:22
oCeanmas, you're welcome10:22
Kimmenxgt001: it is definitely a problem with acpi. Ubuntu can't set fan speeds and power savings10:22
red2kicNewer Hardware -- Not in Ubuntu Hardware Database, I'm sure.10:22
Kimmenbut I can't find any specific help on the problems =/10:22
spiralsKimmen, it most certainly can set power savings and does10:22
Kimmenon everything?10:22
Kimmendisk, wireless, screen, peripherals, fan, cpu throttling?10:23
ruani cant connect to any bittorrent trackers, how can i fix this?10:23
spiralsKimmen: it's throttling my CPU right now10:23
xgt001funnily my hp desktop runs absolutely fine with ubuntu... no issues at all10:23
Kimmenspirals: ok, and you also have the HP G42?10:24
ruani can ping torrent.ubuntu.com btw10:24
spiralsKimmen: No10:24
spiralsKimmen, I'm just pointing out that the capabilities are there.10:24
YankDownUnderThe desktop and laptop have completely different hardware - so it's not like an "HP" thing...ditto with Dell junk...10:24
Kimmenspirals: yes they are but it seems that ubuntu (and perhaps all *nix distros) can't use them for the HP G4210:25
spiralsThat is unfortunate.10:25
greenITdoes anyone have an ati graphics card? i can't suspend, but i want to... can anyone help me plz?10:25
KimmenIt's not uncommon that new hardware lacks support10:25
spiralsKimmen: yeah, i have to pre-vet components :/10:26
Kimmenand many laptops have their own specific quirks and specials10:26
YankDownUnderThe companies do it on purpose....to push out substandard hardware that has only Win-drivers.10:26
KimmenUSB devices are the worst10:26
sacarlsonxgt001: I found that there is a utility to check acpi  called powertop  sudo apt-get powertop http://www.lesswatts.org/projects/powertop/10:26
creat0rI have a Static Ip address and Ubuntu server, how can i give my static ip a name?10:27
CyanureHi, I just reinstalled my ubuntu and kept my .mozzilla config directory. I have a strange problem : I need to push twice refresh (or F5) to make firefox refresh. Any idea anyone ?10:27
scarleoruan: Have you made the correct port forward in your router and opened the firewall port in Ubuntu?10:27
sacarlsoncreat0r: a name to other systems or just to yourself?10:27
Kimmencreat0r: easiest is to register for a free domain at no-ip etc.10:27
ruanscarleo: not yet. i'd need to contact my ISP to do that10:27
xgt001does any1 have similar issues with ati graphics??10:27
YankDownUnderxgt001, Um...have you looked through the HP support forums mate? Cuz it appears as though there are more than a few issues with the G42 (all versions)10:28
scarleoruan: maybe that's why you're having problems then10:28
creat0rsacarlson: i have 3 systems, mail server and web server and download and upload server10:28
creat0rsacarlson: i need to create domin and sub domain for each10:29
xgt001YankDownUnder: nope...i wan2 run ubuntu badly :(10:29
Kimmencreat0r: take a look at no-ip.com10:29
greenITi want to suspend my laptop (ati graphics card). first, it seems like everything is ok, until i try to wake it up again, because then the system is rebooting and doesn't just wake up.... can anyone help me fix this issue?10:29
ruanscarleo: i've set up port forwarding on 411 but is it possible to connect on that port?10:29
creat0rKimmen: I tried before but i want to learn how setup a dns server10:30
xgt001greenIT: i have an ati on my laptop as well but it suspends fine... did u install restricted drivers ??10:30
YankDownUnderxgt001, Mate - dunno about what magic to perform on a machine that doesn't appear to run any version of either linux or BSD...10:30
scarleoruan: is that the port your bittorrent program is using?10:30
ruanscarleo: yes10:30
Kimmencreat0r: then look at bind tutorials, there's great documentation online10:30
ravenneed a networking technican please10:30
Kimmennot that hard to set up a small domain10:31
scarleoruan: What client are you running?10:31
xgt001YankDownUnder: i have issues only with graphics and power managemnt10:31
ruanscarleo: qbittorrent10:31
greenITxgt001: nope, i run with the radeon driver (so the o/s-driver) because the prorpietary driver doesn't work that fine for me...10:31
sacarlsoncreat0r: that can be setup with a domain server from wan like http://www.everydns.com10:31
xgt001greenIT: i knw it has lotta issues but installing proprietary drivers is the only way to go10:32
greenITxgt001: hrm... damn... ok, then i have to abandon the suspend-mode^^10:33
greenITxgt001: thx for the info :)10:33
scarleoruan: Ok, never tried that one. Does it give any error message? Or does it log to somewhere?10:33
scarleoruan: also did you check your Ubuntu firewall that 411 is open10:33
ruanscarleo: i have no firewall10:34
ruanscarleo: it doesnt give an error, it says Connection timed out10:34
sacarlsoncreat0r: I guess from inside you need to setup you router to manage your port forwarding,  you can also use bind9 to handle access for your internal lan network resolveing10:34
twitchlovin ff4 ;)10:36
chuwieyHi, i'm running 10.10 and i can't get a nvidia 8600gt detected - can someone help?10:37
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ikoniachuwiey: what do you mean can't get it detected10:37
scarleoruan: Can you try to download a torrent from somewhere else to see if it's that tracker that has problems10:37
chuwieyikonia: ie. isn't recognized.. - i downloaded the drivers from nvidia.com and after running them it says no relevant hardware detected10:38
ikoniachuwiey: why did you download drivers from nvidia.com when ubuntu packages  supported drivers10:39
sacarlsonruan: I think bittorent trackers are normally on port 80 so if you can see any other site seems it's not a tracker problem.  some ISP don't like torrents and find ways to filter them10:39
pizzasFrom the command line, how do I get to the: file system/var/www ?10:40
pizzasI can only cd to my home directory10:40
ruani tried to kexec the current kernel, but it failed and kernel paniced10:40
chuwieyikonia: usually, when i install an nvidia card on ubuntu it will ask me whether i want to install proprietary 3rd party drivers. I didn't get this message, and when searching for additional drivers it didn't find any, so i went and did it myself...10:40
ikoniaruan: what are you doing trying to executre a kernel ?10:40
ruanikonia: im testing kexec10:41
ikoniachuwiey: pastebin the output of lspci10:41
ikoniaruan: who told you that's how you test it ?10:41
potentapizzas: cd /var/www10:41
sacarlsonruan: I guess to perform best you should setup port forwarding of all trafic to your torrent box,  I'm not sure what blocks they use these days10:41
ruanikonia: no one10:41
ikoniaruan: that's not a good idea10:41
ruanikonia: how am i supposed to test it then?10:42
pizzaspotenta that was too easy, I thought I tried that already.... thanks ;)10:42
chuwieyikonia: http://pastebin.com/VZY1mGnS thx10:42
ikoniaruan: what do you actually want to test in it ?10:42
ruanikonia: i wanted to test its ability to boot up a kernel without restarting10:42
ikoniaruan: what is your end goal,10:43
ikoniachuwiey: no nvidia card in that list, just an intel10:43
ruanikonia: being able to update my kernel without restarting10:43
ikoniaruan: you can't do that10:43
ruanikonia: kexec was made for that10:43
ruan!info kexec-tools10:44
ubottukexec-tools (source: kexec-tools): kexec tool for kexec reboots. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.1-2ubuntu2.1 (maverick), package size 75 kB, installed size 316 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 ppc64 powerpc ia64 s390 arm armel)10:44
ikoniano it wan't10:44
chuwieyikonia: yeah, i know... that's my problem.. it's in the motherboard, the fan is running... and yet, isn't detected?10:44
ikoniachuwiey: dead10:44
ikoniaruan: I know what they are for and that they can boot a kernel, but updating the kernel without a reboot is nuts10:44
chuwieyikonia: ok. :( ... one more question.. i'm trying to install boxee but software center says there is an error with apt... ?10:45
* zxiest back10:45
ikoniachuwiey: what's the error10:45
ikoniazxiest: can you please disable that away message10:45
zxiestikonia what away msg?10:46
* ikonia is back10:46
zxiestI just did /me back10:46
zxiestManually10:46
ikoniazxiest: ok, then please use /away for your status10:46
zxiestI wasn't away. I got disconnected10:46
oCeanzxiest: no need to announce away/back10:46
strkI bought an HPmini and installed ubuntu-netbook on it. Plugging an external monitor is giving me headaches. Text mode is good. Graphic mode up to GDM is fine, as long as I log in, it stops working10:47
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zxiestOkay.. I'll say hello next time :-)10:47
chuwieyikonia: unhandlable error. "there seems to be a programming error with aptdaemon..."10:47
strkblank external monitor, background-only in lid monitor10:47
ikoniachuwiey: I've never seen that, is boxxee in the ubuntu repos10:47
chuwieyikonia: nope. however, it had no problems installing in the past... (not necessarily this ver.)10:48
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truepurpleWhat file system do I want to use for installing ubuntu?10:48
anshUbuntu 10.10 showing just 861.8 MiB of physical Memory instead of 3 GiB. Causing crashes and performance issues...10:49
ruantruepurple: ext410:49
ikoniachuwiey: I'm wondering (without looking in detail) if the package version is the issue, or th erepo10:49
ikoniaansh: how are you looking at your ram10:49
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truepurpleI thought there was a linux specific FS that was better to use for linux then ext410:49
ikoniano10:49
anshikonia: System Monitor10:49
chuwieyikonia: i wouldn't know.. since this isn't from repo i would go with package version.. any way to check?10:50
ikoniaansh: that sshowing what's in use10:50
truepurpleSo all these other options, reiserFS, btrfs, JFS, XFS, not worth using?10:50
ikoniachuwiey: install something else from an ubuntu repo, if it works you can have reaosnalbe confidence the package manager is fine10:50
ikoniatruepurple: they are worth using for specific reasons, ext4 is the default most common10:50
truepurpleWhat reasons?10:51
chuwieyikonia: thanks for your help. have a great day.10:51
anshikonia: no, total 861.8 MiB of memory is abailable for use10:51
ikoniaansh: open a terminal and type "free" what do you see10:51
kostja_osipovhi. I lost sound after a scheduled upgrade of 10.04 on my dell e6410. all modules are loaded, there are no errors, alsamixer runs fine. yet the sound is dead. help...10:52
anshikonia: http://pastebin.com/bGaXdFEM10:52
truepurpleikonia: When do I want to use the other ones?10:53
ikoniaansh: that really is showing only 800meg, use the memtest option from your grub boot options or the livecd to test your ram10:53
ikoniatruepurple: don't worry about it, use ext4,10:53
greenIThi, i have a problem with my ati graphics card: i can't say my notebook to standby... the notebook isn't shut down when i try to standby, as it should be, but when i want to wake it up again, the notebook just reboots... how can i solve this problem10:53
greenIT?10:53
anshikonia: ok, thanks..10:53
ikoniagreenIT: known long term problem10:54
Kimmenansh: perhaps you have a part shared memory for video?10:54
ikoniagreenIT: many bugs and fixes depending on your card version and driver version on launchpad.net10:54
ikoniagreenIT: no proper fix though10:54
Laurencebwhats the easiest way to backup an entire hard drive?10:54
greenITikonia: i found a solution for suspend... but nothing for standby.. do you know a solution?10:55
truepurpleikonia When I create partitions, it leaves these tiny fragments of free space, why? Like 1mb free space and a separate 73.2kb free space listed separately10:55
ikoniagreenIT: no, as I've said there are plenty on launchpad.net10:55
ikoniatruepurple: probably your block size,10:55
truepurpleBlock size?10:56
ikoniatruepurple: partition overhead maybe ?10:56
ikoniatruepurple: does it really matter ?10:56
greenITikonia: thx, then i'll look at launchpad.net :)10:56
strkhow does gdm know who's "currently logged in" and who isn't ?10:56
truepurpleWell, seems like clutter anyway, but ok10:56
ikoniastrk: when you login you start a session, that data is read by gdm10:56
strkikonia: I killed gnome-session10:56
ikoniastrk: it's also in wtmp10:57
strkanother user is in wtmp too, but gdm doesn't give him as "currently logged in"10:57
mrwescan I store my IRC server password in Chatzilla?10:57
truepurpleI want to install windows latter after this install, should I make a separate partition for it from unetbootin screen, or have windows carve out its own space, or does it not matter?10:57
ikoniastrk: how is he logged in ?10:57
strkssh10:57
ikoniastrk: ok, so that's not a gdm session10:57
strkikonia: ok, killed -bash for the user, and the "currently logged in" thing disappeared10:58
strkikonia: I'm trying to figure what made that users's session break external monitor10:58
strkikonia: another user (who didnt' touch monitor settings) can use monitor just fine10:58
strkbut this user, won't10:58
ikoniastrk: use monitor ?10:59
ikoniabreak monitor session ?10:59
sacarlsontruepurple: I would leave a free space to install another system later on this install so the next time you install you don't need a livecd to install it or risk resizeing a partition at a later time.11:00
strkikonia: a netbook with an external monitor plugged in11:00
strkikonia: I just succeeded to find that ~/.config was making the difference11:00
truepurple"Percentage of the file system blocks reserved for the super-user:" Defaults at 5%, what is this about?11:01
ikoniastrk: how is that anything to do with the gdm information you've just mentioned11:01
phoenixsamprashello, how to play blueray movies with MOVIE PLAYER?11:01
strkikonia: in no way probably, I was just afraid that "logged in" might have meant some config file were in memory already so whatever I'd do wouldn't change a thing11:02
DropSQLhi all :)11:03
truepurplehi11:03
strkikonia: anyway, a very though experience, for the netbook owner (not an hacker...)11:04
bhaveshanybody have worked on Eucalyptus 2.0 ?11:05
truepurplesacarlson: "Percentage of the file system blocks reserved for the super-user:" Defaults at 5%, what is this about?11:05
ikoniatruepurple: it's an emergency get out of jail overhead for a system11:05
bhaveshplz help me ?11:06
ikoniabhavesh: what's the question11:06
strkikonia: on "Detect monitors" clicking, the main monitor (netbook lid) started blinking and the only way to do anything has been switching to a virtual console or logging in from another machine trough ssh...11:06
ikoniastrk: ok11:06
bhaveshikonia: I am not able to install the Euca 2.0 successfully.11:07
bhaveshhave u tried it any time11:07
truepurpleikonia so leave it at the default 5%?11:07
ikoniabhavesh: what's the problem11:07
sacarlsontruepurple: I have no idea, never seen it11:07
ikoniabhavesh: no, I've not tried it11:07
ikoniatruepurple: leave well alone11:07
mrwesl11:08
truepurpleIkonia how about all these mounting options and mounting point options?11:08
ikoniatruepurple: what about them ?11:08
sacarlsontruepurple: just make sure you pick a root  /  and should provide for a swap11:09
appi_uppihi, while reloading the synaptic packager i got this error message "Could not download all repository indexes". Just now i have installed ubuntu 10.0411:09
ikoniaappi_uppi: reload it, see if it happens again11:09
DropSQLhelp my plz, my problem: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=800613&view=&hl=&fromsearch=111:09
appi_uppiikonia: sure i will try now11:09
ikoniaDropSQL: explain your issue, basic11:09
brothersomeQuestion: Has Xubuntu a good performance on a PanelPC with 4 GB flash?11:09
truepurpleIkonia  leave them alone? Just use what it defaults as?11:10
Laurencebis it possible to sync an ext3 formatted drive with an ext4 formatted one?11:10
zxiestHow can I list my users?11:10
DropSQLikonia: i have problem with skype video call11:10
ikoniatruepurple: do you have a reason to change them, do you know what they do ?11:10
ikoniaLaurenceb: sure11:10
ikoniaDropSQL: ok,11:10
ikoniazxiest: users from what ?11:10
daniel3Wow this IRC program for Mac is crazy.11:10
zxiestcommand line11:10
newbie123Hello, I am facing a problem after installing ubuntu and kubuntu. The installation completes succesfully, but I cannot login. I give the right password, it sems to load, the screen changes, but comes back to login scren. In ubuntu I could login as the Ubuntu Desktop Safemode mode. Could anyone please help me?11:10
zxiestikonia11:10
ikoniaDropSQL: skype is closed source, support is provided by skypy11:10
truepurpleikonia I don't know what they do, that is why I ask11:10
om26erbs_, hey!11:10
Laurencebis it possible to create a drive image of a fat32 formatted drive under ubuntu?11:11
ikoniatruepurple: ok, so unless you have a machine with a special requirement, trust the defaults11:11
* Laurenceb is trying to backup some drives11:11
brothersomedaniel3: I use jIRCii --- Java IRC client --- platform independent11:11
ikoniaLaurenceb: you can create vfat32 file systems11:11
sacarlsontruepurple: if no partitions were originaly left unasigned then it may not pick a root for you.  if it does you should be good to go11:11
bs_om26er, hello!11:11
Laurencebinteresting11:11
DropSQLikonia: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=94203 it's screenshot, i think my problem in drivers...11:11
Laurencebikonia: so i have 60GB drive with 30GB fat32 partition with wondows and 26GB ext3 with ubuntu11:12
truepurplesacarlson I don't understand that11:12
Laurencebi want to back it up on a new 500GB drive11:12
ikoniaDropSQL: why do you think that11:12
daniel3brothersome, this one is called Textual11:12
Laurencebwhats the best strategy?11:12
ikoniaLaurenceb: ok, make a vfat32 partiton on the new drive, mount it, copy the data across11:12
Laurencebright11:12
sacarlsontruepurple: has it already auto picked a root partition location for you?11:12
DropSQLikonia: other people not have problem in skype on ubuntu11:12
ikoniaDropSQL: that doesn't mean it's a driver problem ?11:13
ikoniaLaurenceb: it really is that simple11:13
truepurplesacarlson I don't know11:13
Laurencebok, thanks11:13
DropSQLDifferences in the system for me and others'11:13
Guest7881kinda new at linux lol11:14
Laurencebikonia: i dont see vfat32 in Gparted11:14
sacarlsontruepurple: well if you continue and it returns with error of not having defined a root you will know for sure11:14
DropSQLikonia: main gifferenc in drivers11:14
ikoniaLaurenceb: what are the options11:14
ikoniaDropSQL: what drivers /11:14
Guest7881got a ?11:14
Laurencebfat32 or 1611:14
ikoniaLaurenceb: fat32 then11:14
truepurplesacarlson I don't know. One has / after it, another has /home and another /user from the list of partitions11:14
Laurenceboh ok11:14
Laurencebsimple11:14
DropSQLikonia: I do not understand the question11:14
Guest7881got a laptop with wifi it works but it wont load pages all the way anyone have a solution11:15
Laurencebhmf my '500GB' drive is really 466GB   :(11:15
ikoniaDropSQL: you said the main difference is drivers, what drivers, and main difference between what ?#11:15
sacarlsontruepurple: that sounds good  / is normally what is what it has chosen for root partition then11:15
pizzasCan I create and edit files from the command line?11:16
benlaodyoooooooo11:16
benlaodqui est français???11:16
ikoniapizzas: depends on the file type, but yes11:17
ikonia!fr | benlaod11:17
ubottubenlaod: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.11:17
rayleei been having alot of flash problems on my ubuntu 32 bit11:17
brothersomepizzas: Yes, vi or e3 or nano or pico or emacs11:17
pizzasI want to create and edit a settings.php file for drupal 711:17
ikoniabrothersome: how can you edit a video file with vi ?11:17
ikoniapizzas: ok, any text editor will work fine11:17
truepurplesacarlson: what are the /home and /usr about?11:17
DropSQLikonia: hmm... "I had a problem using Mint 10 which is still an ubuntu based system. I  downloaded from the Package manager the streamcam and it cured all the  skype camera issues. " answer in skype forum... streamcam - what is it? 11:17
ikoniaDropSQL: no idea11:18
appi_uppiikonia: do i need to configure the URL in under software source, to get udpates from other source? If so please provide me some of the trusted urls11:18
ikoniaappi_uppi: did it fail a second time ?11:18
appi_uppiikonia: yes11:18
pizzasikonia I have tried to do it in ubuntu and everything is write protected. Is that normal?11:18
brothersometruepurple: usr = Universal system root (hope that I am right)11:18
ikoniapizzas: use sudo if you need super user privileges11:18
ikoniaappi_uppi: ok, open the software sources gui, and try one of the other mirrors, that one mirror maybe having a problem11:19
sacarlsontruepurple: you can define those seperate partitions but they should default as subs of the root partititon if left to default11:19
truepurplesacarlson: So is the root one the only one worth concerning myself with, and ignore these /home and /usr labels?11:20
sacarlsontruepurple: some people like to have /home separate so that they can install new systems and use the old home in new systems without moving them11:20
rayleedoes anyone use ubuntu 32 bit linux11:20
arand!anyone | raylee11:20
ubotturaylee: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.11:20
pizzasikonia sudo is for the command line only, right?11:21
sacarlsontruepurple:  for personal computer just root is fine,  I like a spare partition to play with experimental systems at a later time11:21
ikoniapizzas: correct, gksudo for a graphical application11:21
appi_uppiikonia: i got this error message "Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release.gpg  Could not connect to in.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (111.91.91.37). - connect (110: Connection timed out)11:22
mycosysikona - sudo works just fine for startin x apps11:22
ikoniaappi_uppi: yes, and I told you what to do11:22
ikoniamycosys: no it doesn't11:22
sacarlsontruepurple: a spare partition like 10 - 16 gig is big enuf to play with and can still be used as storage space later if needed11:22
ikoniamycosys: gksudo is the correct tool11:22
mycosysyes it does11:22
truepurplesacarlson: I will have at least 3, 1 for linux, 1 for windows, and a joint one. Should I concern myself which is /home and which is /usr?11:22
ikoniamycosys: no, it doesn't it does not set the enviornment correctly11:22
appi_uppiikonia: I am not sure what do you mean by mirror11:22
ikoniaappi_uppi: in the software sources application, there is a list of available ubuntu repos mirrors, select a different one than the in.archive.ubuntu.com mirror11:23
ikonia!lucid11:23
ubottuUbuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/100411:23
sacarlsontruepurple: you should be more concerned to have one also for swap, one for root of linux,  and one for windows,11:23
murphylan1RobotCow: RobotCow: Hi, I'm installing mysql on ubuntu server 10.4 , meet error "An error occurred while setting the password for the MySQL administrative user. This may have happened because the account already has a password, or because of a communication problem with the MySQL server."11:23
brothersometruepurple: usr Universal services/system root ---- Only for programs / libraries etc.11:23
appi_uppiikonia: sure, will try now11:24
murphylan1Hi all, I'm installing mysql on ubuntu server 10.4 , meet error "An error occurred while setting the password for the MySQL administrative user. This may have happened because the account already has a password, or because of a communication problem with the MySQL server."11:24
ikoniaappi_uppi: I've just tried to connect to the in.archive.ubuntu.com mirror, and it appears to be down11:24
sacarlsontruepurple: the default install should have auto created a swap partition also11:24
ikoniamurphylan1: mysql needs to be running to set a mysql password11:24
murphylan1$ mysql -u root -h localhost -p11:24
murphylan1ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can’t connect to local MySQL server through socket ‘/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock’ (2)11:24
murphylan1ikonia: yes, I have set a password11:24
DavidGuettaHello!11:25
ikoniamurphylan1: ok, so that's why it's erroring then, you have already set a password11:25
appi_uppiikonia: oh i see.11:25
rajviHi all,Goole Earth install but application not launching ( UBUNTU 10.10 via WUBI on Dell Mini10 netbook) tried to install from normal channel as well from the .deb from google . Help Please11:25
ravenhow to ping a port?11:25
ikoniaraven: you don't11:25
brothersomeraven: ping.eu11:25
truepurpleSacarlson I don't see any partion labeled as "swap" should I be concerned about this?11:25
ZULOany1 can help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/585834/ ? thanks11:25
ikoniabrothersome: that won't ping a port11:25
murphylan1ikonia: how can I do it11:25
ikoniamurphylan1: do what ?11:26
murphylan1ikonia: how to install mysql11:26
rajvi@truepurple ideally thier should b a swapdrive11:26
brothersomeI know: ping is ICMP --- Using 5/6/7 port11:26
ruan!googleearth | rajvi11:26
ubotturajvi: Google Earth is available as the package "googleearth-package" in !Multiverse. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth11:26
murphylan1ikonia: I meet a error, when installing11:26
ikoniabrothersome: so it won't bing a port11:26
sacarlsontruepurple: is this a manual partition?  if so yes you should create a swap partition the same size or a bit biger than your system ram size11:26
ikoniamurphylan1: it's already installed if you have set a password11:26
oCeanrajvi: make sure package lsb-core is installed11:26
brothersomeping.eu for portcheck and ping11:26
rajvisure oCean11:27
murphylan1ikonia: but I can not login11:27
oCeanrajvi: it is know that if lsb-core is not installed, g-earth will not start11:27
ikoniamurphylan1: make sure mysql is running11:27
truepurplesacarlson: Why should I? I have more then enough ram to cover any memory needs for me not to have any space dedicated to virtual memory11:27
rajviThanks Ocan11:27
sacarlsontruepurple: swap space is also used for hybernate mode and other things11:27
murphylan1yes, it is running11:28
oCeanrajvi: welcome11:28
appi_uppiikonia: its working fine :)11:28
murphylan1ikonia: it is running11:28
murphylan1ikonia: i use status mysql11:28
ikoniamurphylan1: ok, so how are you trying to login11:28
ikoniaappi_uppi: great news11:28
appi_uppiikonia: thanks  a loooot :)11:28
ikoniamurphylan1: how are you trying to login11:28
murphylan1ikonia: I use mysql -uroot -p11:28
ikoniamurphylan1: then your password is wrong if it's running11:29
ZULOany1 can help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/585834/ ? thanks11:29
murphylan1ikonia: $ mysql -u root -h localhost -p11:29
rajvi@oceani m installing them i think i know where is the problem11:29
sacarlsontruepurple: also if you ever play with virtualbox you will find that there is never enuf mem11:29
truepurpleSacarlson: Well, can't imagine anything other then hybernation, and couldn't the OS use its own partition for that?11:29
murphylan1ikonia: how to change the password?11:29
rajvihey  anyone uses Quicken on Ubuntu11:29
jiltdilhow to connect to windows having system?11:30
sacarlsontruepurple: no without swap you will have disable that mode and maybe others I'm not using11:30
brothersomejiltdil: Samba client11:30
oCeanmurphylan1: first you should fix this error "Can’t connect to local MySQL server through socket ‘/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock"11:30
oCeanmurphylan1: the mysql-server might not be running. Try a stop and start again11:30
jiltdilbrothersome: should  i have to install samba client on my ubutnu and any setting on the windows side operating system11:31
ikoniamurphylan1: if you don't know the root password you'll need to do a password recovery, that's documented on the mysql.com website, you'll need to start mysql with the --skip-grant-table option,11:31
ikoniaoCean: I agree, but he assures me it's running11:31
murphylan1oCean: I try it more time11:31
sacarlsontruepurple: if you don't have disk space to spare and never turn your computer off, then don't create swap, I don't have it on my eeepc since it has too little hard disk space to spare for it11:32
rajvi@jai ho to @oCean ..tahnks once again11:33
rajviThanks11:33
truepurplesacarlson: With a 2tb drive, space isn't a issue, but can I hide this drive so its out of sight and out of mind?11:33
rajvi@truepurple use mount manager11:34
sacarlsontruepurple: swap partitions are never mounts so yes they are out of site11:35
rajvianyone with quicken on 10.1011:35
sacarlsontruepurple: I'm not sure but I think crash events are sometimes captured to swap11:36
truepurplesacarlson: So set aside 8gb to it?11:36
ZULOwho can help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/585834/ ?11:36
sacarlsontruepurple: is that your ram size?  sounds good to me11:36
murphylan1oCean: when I run this command: sudo netstat -tap | grep mysql there is no info to show11:37
r_a_fhello - after update i have NO SOUND :(11:37
truepurplesarcalson 8gb11:38
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oCeanmurphylan1: first try: ps -ef | grep mysqld11:38
SnowmanX11Is there anybody who is good at configuration of soundcards?11:38
rayleedoes anybody have problem with flash11:39
ZULOany1 can help me with dhcp client problem?11:39
rayleeon ubuntu11:39
oCean!here | SnowmanX11 just aks your question in the channel11:39
ubottuSnowmanX11 just aks your question in the channel: Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. If you have to use more than 3 lines, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com11:39
murphylan1oCean: root@ubuntu:~# restart mysql  mysql start/running11:39
oCeanmurphylan1: no11:39
oCeanmurphylan1: ps -ef |grep mysqld11:39
truepurplesacarlson: So if ubunutu should be in the root partition, what about windows?11:39
Ti-TwI'm trying to play Minecraft, but it won't load. All I get is a black screen. I've found people with the same problem and the solution is always "get sun-java6-plugin". My computer is using AMD64 and Ubuntu Software Center tells me theres not a sun-java6-plugin for AMD64. How can I fix this problem? I'm using the IcedTea plugin right now11:39
murphylan1oCean: root@ubuntu:~# ps -ef | grep mysqld11:40
murphylan1root      2419  2243  0 19:39 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto mysqld11:40
murphylan1oCean: root      2419  2243  0 19:39 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto mysqld11:40
SnowmanX11oCean: I did many times without success. The story is long, that is why I asked for somebody who is willing to spend a time on it first.11:40
oCeanmurphylan1: ok, nothing is running, even though the startscript says it is.11:40
sacarlsontruepurple: seems windows likes partition /dev/sda1  so maybe set that aside for windows if posible11:40
murphylan1oCean: what can i do?11:41
oCeanmurphylan1: have a look in /var/log/mysql/error.log why it does not start11:41
jiltdilhow to acess windows file from ubuntu ?11:41
truepurplesarcarlson: I do not understand, are you speaking of a mounting point option? I don't see that listed11:41
sacarlsontruepurple: I would think it must be operator error that causes problems when windows attempts to install to other partitons.  many will tell you to install windows first, and I would agree,  it's easy for me to add ubuntu to a windows box, not easy for me to add windows to a ubuntu box11:42
jiltdil!samba11:43
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.11:43
SnowmanX11jiltdil: mount the ntfs drive to your filesystem temporary (mount) or constans (fstab)11:43
truepurpleWell I need to install ubuntu first11:43
ZULOany1 can help me with dhcp client problem?'11:43
sacarlsontruepurple: I run all my windows these days in virtualbox and don't even have dual boot any more11:43
SnowmanX11jiltdil: if it is on another machine: samba11:43
Ti-TwI'm trying to play Minecraft, but it won't load. All I get is a black screen. I've found people with the same problem and the solution is always "get sun-java6-plugin". My computer is using AMD64 and Ubuntu Software Center tells me theres not a sun-java6-plugin for AMD64. How can I fix this problem? I'm using the IcedTea plugin right now11:43
murphylan1oCean:11:43
murphylan1110321 10:47:26 [Note] Plugin 'FEDERATED' is disabled.11:43
murphylan1110321 10:47:27  InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 4423311:43
SnowmanX11jiltdil: if it is a same (e.g. dualboot) than my first line11:44
murphylan1oCean: Version: '5.1.41-3ubuntu12.10'  socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'  port: 3306  (Ubuntu)11:44
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jiltdilsnowmanx11: to acess file from other computer having window i have to first install samba on ubuntu and is there any criteria that should be on that window machine?11:44
oCeanmurphylan1: does the socket file exist? "ls -al /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock"11:45
kz3guys how can i run windows application on ubuntu?11:45
karlhegTi-Tw: You have to add partner repository for Maverick, IIRC.11:45
ruankz3: wine11:45
ruan!wine | kz311:45
ubottukz3: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu11:45
ZULOwho can help me with dhcp client problem?11:46
murphylan1oCean: ls: cannot access /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock: No such file or directory11:46
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truepurplesacarlson: well I will duel boot and need to put ubuntu first. So how should I set up these root file systems?11:46
murphylan1oCean: no that file11:46
margaret12122121hi everyone, im having a problem with the java plugin, both sun(oracle) java and openjdk plugin wont run some java applets that just yesterday ran, no updates, i emptied java cache i deleted the home i reinstalled java, for info about the applets please feel free to ask11:46
oCeanmurphylan1: in that case, I don't see why the startup scripts says it is running.11:48
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huffmanhi all11:48
ZULOany1 can help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/585834/  ?11:48
pizzasIf I have a folder which is locked where I want to use drush for a site-install of drupal 7 how do I do that? How do I change the permisssions (unlock) a folder in the file system?11:49
Ti-Twkarlheg: How do I do that?11:49
murphylan1oCean: While installing the MySQL server, I got the following message popped up.11:49
karlhegTi-Tw: Just a sec...11:49
Ti-Twkarlheg: I'm using 10.04, not 10.1011:49
murphylan1oCean: An error occurred while setting the password for the MySQL administrative user. This may have happened because the account already has a password, or because of a communication problem with the MySQL server.11:49
sacarlsontruepurple: what are the systems usage plans?  what is the 2 tb disk space going to be used for?  for me I would have sda1 = 20 gig , for windows, sda2 = 20 gig spare, sda3 = 8 gid swap, sda4 = root "/" the rest or maybe save for extension so others can be added later11:50
rusty149ZULO: Are you trying to make a wireless connection without network-manager?11:50
margaret12122121please anyone?11:50
murphylan1oCean: You should check the account’s password after the package installation.Please read the /usr/share/doc/mysql-server-5.1/README.Debian file for more information.11:50
oCeanmurphylan1: yes, that is all clear to me11:50
karlhegTi-Tw: http://www.clickonf5.org/linux/how-install-sun-java-ubuntu-1004-lts/777711:50
oCeanmurphylan1: your mysql sever is not running, but I don't see why your upstart scripts says it is11:50
pizzasHow do you turn of write protection on folders and files?11:51
murphylan1oCean: you can let me do what you want, I follow you11:51
pizzasturn off11:51
sacarlsontruepurple: but that's just because I don't use windows and would only use it for experiments,  maybe windows is your primary usage?11:51
zxiesthow can I create/delete users?11:51
ortsvorsteherpizzas, you can use chmod. try the manpage11:51
ortsvorsteherzxiest, with useradd and userdel command.11:52
karlhegpizzas: Right-click from Nautilus file manager and you'll see a tab that lets you set those permissions... or, open a terminal and type: man chmod11:52
zxiestortsvorsteher thanks :-)11:52
ortsvorsteheryw :)11:52
margaret12122121hi everyone, im having a problem with the java plugin, both sun(oracle) java and openjdk plugin wont run some java applets that just yesterday ran, no updates, i emptied java cache i deleted the home i reinstalled java, for info about the applets please feel free to ask11:52
karlhegzxiest: There's a tool in the System -> Administration menu.11:53
zxiestkarlheg I'm using ssh...11:53
mrdebwhat's the difference between kword and openoffice writer11:53
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anshInstall button is missing from Ubuntu Software Center11:54
karlhegzxiest: So you need to use the chmod command.11:54
anshhttp://imagebin.org/14498611:54
anshhttp://imagebin.org/14498611:54
FloodBot3ansh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:54
Guest39460margaret12122121 what's your problem??11:54
Guest39460the pages with java doesn't run?11:54
karlheginfo coreutils 'chmod invocation'11:54
murphylan1oCean: how can I run the mysql-server11:54
creat0rI followed 2 tutorial similar to this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236093 but non of them worked. somebody help me to setup bind9 and give my ip a doamin name11:55
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zxiestkarlheg thanks :-)11:55
margaret12122121guest39460: here one http://www.virtualnes.com/play/?id=NES-VU&s=311:56
Guest39460ok11:56
Guest39460open your browser in the terminal11:57
murphylan1oCean: my error as seem as this url:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql/22335711:57
inckieis there a way i can force a specific res? If i start my mediacenter while the TV is off, the res i at it's lowest11:57
Guest39460and open that page11:57
ZULOany1 can help me with dhcp client error please?11:57
sacarlsoncreat0r: is your wan address static also?11:57
decimo¨11:57
margaret12122121guest39460: then what?11:57
creat0rsacarlson: yes i have static ip11:58
v_vmurphylan1: mysqld is not ruunig11:58
v_vmurphylan1: sorry,   running11:58
sacarlsoncreat0r: you don't use a adsl box or you have a contract with your ISP for this?11:58
baldarishey guys new to ubunut , I am trying to log into Windows based VPS ..What can i use something similar to remore desktop in windows?11:58
murphylan1v_v: can you help me, how can I do ir11:58
ikoniabaldaris: ubuntu has a remote desktop client11:58
murphylan1v_v: how can I do it?11:58
v_vmurphylan1: check the mysqld log, and maybe something is wrong11:59
oCeanv_v: yes, we have esablished that, but the upstart script says it is running, and not (re)starting the mysqld process11:59
truepurplesacarlson: well I will duel boot and need to put ubuntu first. So how should I set up these root file systems? (lost internet connection)11:59
Guest39460then copy here what appears in the terminal11:59
margaret12122121guest39460: nothing lol11:59
murphylan1v_v: root      2475  0.0  0.0   7624   928 pts/0    S+   19:57   0:00 grep --color=auto mysqld11:59
margaret12122121guest39460: did you mean "copy the java console output"11:59
baldarisikonia, are you talking about one  in preferences remote desktop that isnt working11:59
Guest39460copy the text11:59
margaret12122121?11:59
Guest39460no11:59
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v_vmurphylan1: i mean the mysqld log. it should be /var/log/mysqld something like that12:00
margaret12122121guest39460: $ firefox12:00
Guest39460the text that appears in the terminal12:00
Guest39460yes12:00
ikoniabaldaris: why isn't it working12:00
Guest39460and then?12:00
margaret12122121guest39460: thats all i have in my cli12:00
Guest39460only?12:00
ZULOwhy dhcpclient says me that DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14?12:00
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margaret12122121guest39460: ye12:00
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sacarlsontruepurple: did you get this? ruepurple: what are the systems usage plans?  what is the 2 tb disk space going to be used for?  for me I would have sda1 = 20 gig , for windows, sda2 = 20 gig spare, sda3 = 8 gid swap, sda4 = root "/" the rest or maybe save for extension so others can be added later12:00
Guest39460thats extrange12:00
murphylan1v_v: /var/log/mysql/error.log12:00
Dinux_hi there , i have problem with wine12:00
Guest39460do you have java plugin and jdk plugin installed??12:01
baldarisikonia, it works but i think its for sharing my screen with others..I want to loginto a remote desktop(VPS) located else where12:01
v_vmurphylan1: anything found in it ?12:01
Guest39460i think, you only need one of them12:01
v_vDinux_: what's wrong ?12:01
margaret12122121Guest39460: yep, yesterday it worked too, today  i retried both with openjdk and sun java, another java app works but this doesnt anymore12:01
|Long|good morning have anyone here used crypt script?12:01
anshInstall button is missing from Ubuntu Software Center12:01
pizzaskcarlheg ortsvorsteher learning how to use the command line is a steep and difficult learning curve! sigh12:01
Guest39460mmm12:01
Dinux_v_v : when i want to uninstall a program , it doesnt do it !12:01
Guest39460try this page12:01
v_voCean: ;-) maybe we need to take a look at the log12:02
Guest39460also run with javaa12:02
creat0rsacarlson: we have a contract with vodafone they give us about 19 static ip address12:02
Guest39460http://www.knuddels.de/index.html?v=90adb&c=012:02
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oCeanv_v: we did. The thing is upstart keeps saying it is running, while it is not. There is no process, and no socket file12:02
margaret12122121guest39460: works12:02
v_vDinux_: did you got any error messages >12:02
MaterMorbican someone give me an information?12:02
truepurpleSacarlson No I didn't get that, I plan to use this system for movies, games, etc. I don't see any special usage that would make any particular dictations on partitioning12:02
Guest39460mmm12:02
Guest39460i dont understand xd12:02
Guest39460why lol12:03
Dinux_v_v : no12:03
margaret12122121guest39460: by the way, u got me in a flirt chat of some kind? lol i read flirt12:03
v_vDinux_: maybe you can just delete the dir where the program is12:03
Guest39460ahah12:03
Guest39460in a german chat12:03
sacarlsoncreat0r: ok then the only problem I see is you need two different dns one for the wan side and the other for inside,  I use bind9 for my internal network and everydns.com for outside.12:03
v_vDinux_: usually it's in your home ./wine12:03
truepurpleWhat is sda1. sda2 etc?12:03
Dinux_v_v : is it safe to do this ?12:03
Guest39460to practice german haha12:04
v_voCean: that may happen, i guess the script check the pid file to see if it's running12:04
v_vDinux_: not all the .wine12:04
truepurpleSacarlson: What is sda1. sda2 etc?12:04
sacarlsoncreat0r: but since you have a static ip I guess you could be your own dns server for both sides but the problem I see is the the ip are still different12:04
MaterMorbiwill i lose windows files that are positioned at the end of the disk when i resize my hd while installing ubuntu?12:04
Dinux_v_v : thank you12:04
v_vDinux_: find the dir where just the program is , you can mv it to another place first12:04
murphylanv_v: I have send the message to you.12:04
oCeanv_v: is there a pid file? I figured it checked the socket file (which is not there)12:04
LjLMaterMorbi: no, they get moved (but of course it would be best to have a backup just in case it goes wrong)12:05
creat0rsacarlson: what ip u mean are different ?12:05
v_voCean: some daemons write pid files12:05
sacarlsoncreat0r: oh I assumed you still went through a nat on your internal network from what I saw in the link but maybe you don't?12:05
MaterMorbihmm... it will be quite hard to make a backup and store it somewhere... anyway thanks for the info.12:05
MaterMorbidamn notebook XD12:05
v_voCean: usually in /var/run/xxx.pid12:06
oCeanv_v: yeah I know12:06
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creat0rsacarlson: No i don't12:08
truepurplesacarlson: ?12:08
sacarlsoncreat0r: ok cool then we can setup your bind9 as your internal and external dns12:08
creat0rsacarlson: how i tried couple how to but no way12:08
sacarlsontruepurple: yes that's my name don't ware it out12:09
truepurpleacarlson: What is sda1. sda2 etc?12:09
murphylanHi oCean12:09
murphylanoCean: are you there12:09
LjLtruepurple: partitions on your first hard drive12:09
ruanhow can i find out if my external ip is my ip?12:09
Laurencebhi, i want to backup a fat32 formatted drive12:09
sacarlsontruepurple: those are partition names /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2  they maybe named /dev/sdb1 .... on your system?12:09
Laurencebam i pest using something like clonezilla?12:09
v_vruan: vist a web site which can tell you your ip12:10
D_rouille.12:10
ruanv_v: is that my real ip though?12:10
v_vruan: what do you mean, real12:10
truepurpleSacarlson: partition names don't have a effect on anything. You mean mounting point names?12:10
ruanv_v: well, how can i verify that12:10
v_vruan: i don't get 'that'12:11
murphylanoCean: I run apt-get autoremove mysql-server , then run apt-get install mysql-server , it is stop at 'setting up mysql-server-5.1.41-3ubuntu12.10'...12:11
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ruanv_v: i want to check whether that ip is truly my external ip12:11
sacarlsontruepurple: I gave them names and purpuse it's up to you where you want to put them12:11
murphylanv_v: I run apt-get autoremove mysql-server , then run apt-get install mysql-server , it is stop at 'setting up mysql-server-5.1.41-3ubuntu12.10'...12:12
sacarlsontruepurple: you may have also noticed I gave them size12:12
v_vruan: ip protocol, an ip packet holds the source ip which usually is your ip12:12
niko-nojoHi room - has anyone got any experience of installing Twiki 5.01 on Ubuntu 10.04. I'm really struggling with the apache configuration part of it. I've spent a day trying to resolve it but I'm stuck and very frustrated :(12:12
petahello everybody12:12
v_vmurphylan: any error message12:12
truepurpleSacarlson: You said 20gb spare partition, why?12:12
murphylanv_v: no message12:12
bonez2046how can I change the login delay at the initial login screen? If I get my password wrong, takes literally 4 minutes before it will let me enter the password again12:13
v_vmurphylan: so the apt doesn't return ?12:13
murphylanv_v: yes12:13
sacarlsontruepurple: as I said before to install without a livecd, I do expeiments like that and when I install new system I like a fall back12:13
murphylanv_v: it stop12:13
murphylanv_v: it stop at setting up....12:14
truepurpleWhat mounting point options should I use for each of them? Like what mounting point option should I use for the one meant for windows?12:14
sacarlsoncreat0r: that link looked good I'm not sure what your problem might be, did you assign your registry to the dns?12:14
v_vmurphylan: is your mysqld running12:14
murphylanv_v: yes, it is running12:14
rayleeok12:15
tstaerkhi, what is Ubuntu's default umts connection program?12:15
v_vmurphylan: can you stop it ?12:15
sacarlsoncreat0r: was the problem you have on the internal network or external?12:15
tstaerkI found it is the only one working for me12:15
murphylanv_v: i try it12:15
creat0rsacarlson: my ip address already has a host name12:15
truepurplesacarlson: What mounting point options should I use for each of them? Like what mounting point option should I use for the one meant for windows?12:15
ruanbonez2046: that's a security measure. though you can try to not get your password wrong12:15
sacarlsontruepurple: the only mount point you need for ubuntu is root /12:16
petai got a remote machine based on 10.04. during the the last days i set it up, did finetuning and securing. now i want to "clone" the system, transfer the image via ssh to my local machine and use it in a virtual machine. the remote machine has has a 2x750gb RAID1 setup. the problem is that i only want to "clone" the actual os files (users,groups,packages, settings, asf.) without the grub settings, so that i can just copy the image to my v12:16
petawithout a neat. which solutions would you suggest? 12:16
zxiest[a]how can I elevate my permissions and not have to type sudo with every command?12:16
bonez2046ruan: so are you saying, the time period there can't be changed?12:16
ruanbonez2046: it could be changable. im not sure how though12:16
truepurpleSacarlson: What about the one for windows?12:16
Dinux_hi , i am still having a problem with wine , i have to programs i installed from wine , but when i want to uninstall these programs , it doesnt do it12:16
ruanzxiest[a]: sudo -i12:16
zxiest[a]ruan thanks :-)12:16
tstaerkDinux_, make sure you also ask at #wine12:17
bonez2046ruan: it's a mystery....12:17
sacarlsontruepurple: you can auto mount it at boot normally it will be automounted at /media/???12:17
cjaeI have two directories that are on an smb share, is there anyway to see the two directories as one?12:18
truepurpleSacarlson: I didn't understand that, are you saying windows will change any mounting point options to what it will need at that time?12:18
cjaeon a *12:19
sacarlsontruepurple: we are talking about ubuntu mount points not windows,12:19
petacjae: do their imemdiate sub-directories/-files change?12:19
ruanhmm. my glcells screensaver isnt working as expected12:19
ruanwhen the cells reach the end of the screen, it restarts from one cell :c12:19
truepurpleSacarlson: We are talking about both, I am duel booting remember?12:20
sacarlsontruepurple: ubuntu will auto detect any disks it see's on the system at boot and if you setup your user with privliges will allow them to auto mount them12:20
cjaepeta: not sure what you mean?12:20
sacarlsontruepurple: when windows install you will have to know where you want to install it that's why I gave you names /dev/sda1 that will be it's root and the only partition that it will see12:21
truepurpleSacarlson: I don't understand.12:21
sacarlsontruepurple: well I don't know the names that windows uses so you will have to look up windows install elsewhere12:22
truepurpleSacarlson: Name labels on partitions have no effect on anything, right?12:22
petacjae: look, you could exclude those two folders from being shared/publicly visible and instead create an additional empty dir, and put hard links from all of your two dirs  immediately sub-directories/-fiolders into it.12:23
sacarlsontruepurple: these are not name labels these are partition locations.  have you used fdisk or gparted before?12:23
Laurencebcan i use dd to copy between two partitions?12:24
sacarlsontruepurple: I'm not sure lables have any effect but uuid does and that's inside the partition after format12:24
Laurencebor can it only be used to  copy an entire drive image?12:24
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truepurpleI have used fdisk before, but it was a long time ago, I don't remember such a option anyway12:24
cjaepeta: ok I think I got ya thanks12:25
truepurplesacarlson: I don't understand. So how do I need to set up the partition meant for windows?12:25
sacarlsontruepurple: just leave them unused12:26
sacarlsontruepurple: unformated even better12:26
petacjae: but note: files/folders added to the two original folders won't appear automatically inside the newly created "fake-directory"12:26
scarleoAre there any media players that can be controlled via a remote gui?12:26
erUSUL!info mdp | scarleo12:26
ubottuscarleo: Package mdp does not exist in maverick12:26
erUSUL!info mpd | scarleo12:26
ubottuscarleo: mpd (source: mpd): Music Player Daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.15.10-1ubuntu3.1 (maverick), package size 176 kB, installed size 508 kB12:26
petacjae: you either must add links for them manually or setup an inode watcher script that does this automatically12:27
cjaepeta: ok and soft linking wouldnt work?12:27
GenericBoxWould anyone be able to help me with a USB issue?12:27
scarleoerUSUL: thanks, I'll have a look12:27
petacjae: should work too ... just try it12:27
truepurplescarlson: is it true one can only partition a single hard drive 4 ways?12:28
sacarlsontruepurple: if each of your ip already have a hostname then it seems your almost done.  as my system I just setup so that *.mydomain.com is always the same ip won't that work?12:28
GenericBoxUbuntu 10.10 (Kernal 28) isn't mounting my USB drive (WD Passport) as of today. And I can't click on "Places" from the desktop. I get this error: "Could not display "computer:". Nautilus cannot handle "computer" locations.12:29
petacjae: but wait ... i'm not sure. when their original targets are moved/deleted, they will still exist ... pointing to null. hard links on the other side, will be automatically deleted too, "adapting" their acutal link-target respectively12:29
sacarlsontruepurple: sorry wrong name on that last one12:29
GenericBoxSame happens for Network menu too.12:29
cjaepeta: thanks but the sub-dir and files change so...12:29
sacarlsoncreat0r: if each of your ip already have a hostname then it seems your almost done.  as my system I just setup so that *.mydomain.com is always the same ip won't that work?12:30
GenericBoxCan anyone help? ["Could not display "computer:". Nautilus cannot handle "computer" locations.] error and no USB (or Windows HDD) drive mounting.12:31
GoonhostTest12:31
sacarlsoncreat0r: oh I think I remember you want this.domaon.com got to ip1  and that.domain.com goto ip2 ...12:31
Laurencebdd if=/dev/sda1 of=/media/external_drive_fat/backup.img12:31
Laurencebwould that backup an image of a partition?12:32
Laurencebas a file on my fat32 formatted external drive12:32
sacarlsonLaurenceb: I've never done it on fat32 but I guess so12:35
sacarlsonLaurenceb: you could test it by trying to mount the image to prove it12:35
Laurencebhow do i mount an image?12:35
murphylanHi all, how to set the root password of mysqlserver?12:36
Laurencebi tried using dd on the partitions directly, but that wont work will it?12:36
GenericBoxI just restarted on old kernel and still had the same problem with my USB and Places menu -- can anyone help?12:36
Laurencebit has to be over an entire drive?12:36
creat0rsacarlson:  I want to browse mydomain.com instead of http://ipaddress. which mean when you browse mydomain.com redirect you to my server's ip address12:37
snapphow do you debug on ubuntu network adapter?12:37
ruanis it safe to set the fan speed higher?12:38
sacarlsonLaurenceb: sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0 ;sudo losetup  /dev/loop0 $LOOPFILE12:38
Laurencebwhat does that do?12:38
GenericBoxOkay I can still mount my USB and HDD manually and through Disk Util -- but  even when mounted I still cannot access Computer or Places menu items.12:39
GenericBox[Could not display "computer:".] Nautilus cannot handle "computer" locations.12:40
snapphow do you debug on ubuntu network adapter?12:40
Ddordawhen Canonical releases Ubuntu usually? (hour)12:41
erUSULsnapp: define "debug"? it does not work at all? or what?12:42
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DdordaToGeL4119: that was for me?12:42
truepurplesacarlson: still willing to help me?12:43
ruanwhy do i have to remove gtk if i want to remove cups?12:43
ToGeL4119italiani ?12:43
ToGeL4119ci sono????12:43
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truepurpleMay I please get some help with partitioning?12:44
ToGeL4119Ddorda: pvt plsd12:44
GenericBoxI am using Ubuntu 10.10, this problem occurs on all kernels listed on grub, my devices are not automatically mounting, and when I click "Computer" "Network" or "Trash" from Places or Gnome I get the following error: [Could not display "computer:".] Nautilus cannot handle "computer" locations. Can anyone help?12:45
GenericBoxThis has happened since running update.12:45
asmod4noh hi, got the following setup on my ubuntu-server, eth1 is connected to my adsl-modem, eth0 is connected to my lan, the adsl-modem also has a wifi AP, how do i have to setup the routing so wifi clients and lan clients can connect to the internet (ppp0)?12:45
asmod4ndo i just have to give eth1 a ip and announce that via dnsmasg?12:46
asmod4ndnsmasq*12:46
erUSULasmod4n:why don't you connect the lan directly to the modem/router/AP?12:47
asmod4nthe router lacks some basic support i need for the clients12:47
cablophello people, i have this question, how can i mount a remote directory in both windows and linux and preserve the permissions the folder have in the remote computer?12:49
ruanwhy do i have to remove gtk if i want to remove cups core?12:49
erUSULasmod4n: just configure the ubuntu server as router. enable ip forwarding and set up the iptables rules12:50
erUSUL!ics | asmod4n12:50
ubottuasmod4n: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing - You may also use !firestarter: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php12:50
akagi82anyone know how to install firmware via telnet in terminal?12:50
cablopruan, which gtk? some packages are metapackages12:50
ruancablop: gtk212:50
truepurpleMay I please have some help setting up partitions?12:51
jribtruepurple: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)12:51
cablopruan, check the package, you can check if this is just a metapackage, if thatś the case you can safely remove cups, but if it's not then better to keep the package and find a way to disable it12:51
liminal_Hello I have a visual problem with ubuntu, for some reason my screenout seems to have turned monochrome or nightview12:52
truepurpleIts too complicated to ask on a single line, and Id hate to have to write a long thing without knowing if anyone is listening12:52
ruancablop: i have it disabled, but it's wasting hdd space12:52
liminal_I think i activated by mistake with athe keyboard12:53
jribtruepurple: well think of it this way.  Suppose someone had said "sure, I don't know if I can help you but if you tell me what you are trying to do then I might be able to".  What would your next line be?  Say that :)12:53
cbkiaI was installing Ubuntu.. But it' stuck at 80% (Configuring target system) for over half an hour.. .Is my installed screwed ????12:53
MnCCis it possible to make packages without source code ?12:53
truepurpleI would explain the issue12:53
jribMnCC: sure see the nvidia drivers for example12:53
pizzasare there any drush users here?12:54
jribMnCC: or flash12:54
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cbkiacbkia: Shld i restart and try again12:54
jribpizzas: #drupal-support is probably a better place for that12:54
pizzasthanks jrib12:54
MnCCjrib: thanks, got rid of transmission, going to build a uTorrent package =)12:54
liminal_does anyone know what the shortcut key for nightview is in ubuntu?12:54
cbkiaI was installing Ubuntu.. But it' stuck at 80% (Configuring target system) for over half an hour.. .Is my installed screwed ????12:55
symptomHow are ATI drivers for Ubuntu these days.  It has been a while since I have built a box with an ATI card in it?12:55
jribtruepurple: yes, do that.  Do it one line and add relevant details/logs in a pastebin12:55
gopperIs there a global-menu support for KDE applications under ubuntu 10.04?12:55
cablopC and D exist in server, but are not part of music group12:56
cbkiaC'mon folks....... I was installing Ubuntu.. But it' stuck at 80% (Configuring target system) for over half an hour.. .Is my installed screwed ????12:56
cablopruan, dd is not a hard issue except if you are running a very limited device12:57
jribcbkia: did you run "check the cd for defects" before performing the install?12:57
ruancablop: my hdd is 80gb12:57
symptomcbkia, Might be your HDD12:57
cablopruan, i meant hard disk space of ubuntu packages is rarely a big issue, anyway you can do a sudo apt-get autoremove in the command line to delete the unused packages12:58
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symptomcbkia, it also depends on your system. did you check the install disc before running it?12:58
cbkiasymptom: I too think soo.... Is there any tool, which can identify which part of my HDD is spoilt12:58
scarleoliminal_: I don't think there is one by default but you can set it up with ccsm12:59
_antant_can someone point me in the direction of a guide on inserting a driver into a custom kernel? I've got a driver that in ubuntu I have to make & make install, but I want to insert it into a kernel12:59
symptomcbkia, spinrite is regarded as one of the best12:59
symptomit is $75 one time13:00
symptomand you own it forever13:00
liminal_scarleo I have activated one by default!13:00
liminal_I need to turn the dam thing off13:00
symptomcbkia, or you could run fsck for free but it wont necessarily fix your disk13:00
symptomHow are ATI drivers for Ubuntu these days.  It has been a while since I have built a box with an ATI card in it?13:00
bittinHello there, do there exist any last.fm plugins for audacious?13:01
scarleoliminal_: ok, never heard of. You haven't accidentally just switched theme or something?13:01
cbkiasymptom: Yeah, i tried running.. But it returned it as CLEAN13:01
_antant_symptom: no vdpau, like nvidia have, but it did me ok13:01
GenericBoxI am using Ubuntu 10.10, this problem occurs on all kernels listed on grub, my devices are not automatically mounting, and when I click "Computer" "Network" or "Trash" from Places or Gnome I get the following error: [Could not display "computer:".] Nautilus cannot handle "computer" locations. Can anyone help?13:02
symptom!vdpau13:02
symptom?13:02
_antant_hardware 3d acceleration I believe13:02
scarleoliminal_: or maybe one of the accessibility features?13:02
scarleoliminal_: you can see all your keyboard shortcuts in system->prefs->Keyboard shortcuts13:03
divamillerneed some help13:03
borillioncan someone explain to me what a "I still all "gEDA" stuff under a "geda" prefix" means ?13:03
divamillerhow do you tell whether you are using the 64 bit version of ubuntu or the 32 bit13:03
divamilleranyone?13:04
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ajianghanwho?13:04
Pumpkin-divamiller: "uname -m"13:04
divamillerdiva@diva:~$ uname -m13:04
divamilleri68613:04
divamillerso it means?13:04
Pumpkin-32bit then13:04
divamilleris there a way to upgrade to 64 bit without losing my current data and settings?\13:05
downloadSSHhello13:05
avohi13:05
truepurpleCan one set up extended logical partitions under unetbootin partitioning?13:05
_antant_Pumpkin: could you point me in the direction of a guide on inserting a driver into a custom kernel? I've got a driver that in ubuntu I have to make & make install, but I want to insert it into a kernel13:05
downloadSSHHow can I download a file from a remote computer via SSH?13:05
borilliondivamiller: you can do a dual install it should bring them over13:05
gopperIs there a global-menu support for KDE applications under ubuntu 10.04?13:06
borillionIt gives you the option13:06
symptomdivamiller, yes if your OS is installed on a separate partition as your /home13:06
divamillerso there is no easy way?13:06
divamillerdammit13:06
borillionso nobody knows what prefix means?13:06
Pumpkin-_antant: if you have produced a .ko file, I think you want to check out "modprobe" or "insmod" to actually load the module.13:07
bonjoyeedownloadSSH: use scp, rsync or sftp..13:07
avobarillion thats something that can easily be looked up on the net13:07
borillionavo I wouldn't come here lol if I could not find it13:07
borillion:D13:07
truepurplean one set up extended logical partitions under unetbootin partitioning?13:07
divamillerthen i need some help in creating a live usb in ubuntu13:07
avomy mistake then13:08
avoim a noob13:08
divamilleri don't know13:08
borilliondivamiller what os are you running13:08
divamillerubuntu13:08
divamiller10.1013:08
cbkiasymptom: Spinrite have to pay moolah issit... http://www.grc.com/spinrite.htm13:08
divamiller32 bit13:08
divamillerwant to switch to 64 bit13:08
divamillerso i can install a 8gb of ram13:08
divamillerin my alienware m11x r213:08
symptomcbkia, yup.  but it will fix your drive and recover your data, and you own it forever13:09
divamiller?13:09
borilliondivamiller: download the iso for the usb disk you want to make, and then use the disk utility under administration13:09
_antantCheers Pumpkin-, so it's a .ko file I need to make13:09
divamillerdisk utilty13:09
borilliondivamiller: all you have to do is provide it with the iso of the 64 bit os13:09
divamilleri have ubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64.iso in my hdd13:10
borilliondivamiller: I mean Startup Disk Creator :D13:10
divamillerdone13:10
jribcbkia: what is that you want to do?13:11
borilliondivamiller then all you have to do is reboot with the flash drive in usb13:11
borillionand tell the bios to start off it13:11
divamillerwhat13:11
truepurpleCan one set up extended logical partitions under unetbootin partitioning?13:11
divamillerwhat do i do with make startup disk13:11
divamilleri only have a 32 bit ubuntu on my live usb13:12
borilliondivamiller: insert the usb, choose it as the disk to use and then tell it where to load the iso from by clicking other13:12
divamilleri have erase my live usb13:13
divamillerwhat should i do next13:13
tortukituHi all, I am trying to test a buffer overflow on a simple application on Ubuntu13:13
tortukituBat it strangely fails13:13
borilliondivamiller: did you load the iso?13:13
divamilleri did13:13
tortukituDid someone here already tested buffer overflows on Ubuntu ?13:14
borilliondivamiller: then just click "make startup disk"13:14
divamillerthe option is black out13:14
avo-ping13:14
truepurplejrib: Can one set up extended logical partitions under unetbootin partitioning?13:14
divamillergot it13:15
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borilliondivamiller: kk13:15
divamillerone sec13:15
divamilleri am uploading the pic of it13:15
borilliondivamiller: just do a dualboot setup copy your important stuff and then erase the old ubuntu13:15
divamillerhttp://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x196/zerobinary/Screenshot-1-1.png13:16
cg2916I can't boot into ubuntu13:16
cg2916i get stuck on the grub command line13:16
divamillerhow much storage should i set13:16
GothCCIs there some kind of document about the Ubuntu Menu Editing. I've tried numerous times to add xmms2 to it, but when I try to launch it nothing happens13:17
borilliondivamiller: are you going to simply install from the flash drive to your pc, or are you going to run ubuntu off your flash drive all the time?13:17
divamillersimply install from the flash drive13:17
borilliondivamiller: if your just going to install ubuntu to your pc you dont need any13:17
cg2916can anyone help me?13:17
borillioncg2916: do you have a ubuntu disk?13:18
cg2916cg2916: flash drive, yes13:18
ikoniaGothCC: xmms2 is a server, not a client13:18
divamillerno13:18
divamillermy notebook does not have a cd drom13:18
haqe17!grub | cg291613:19
ubottucg2916: grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.13:19
haqe17cg2916: just try reinstalling grub with the live cd/usb13:19
cg2916haqe17: i have grub 1.9813:19
davidiskohi guys, can't find dmcrypt setup for drives in  ubuntu 10.10 installer (ubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64)13:20
bittinHello, somone knows how to get audacious 2.3 to scrobble?13:20
divamilleri wish there is a simple to switch to 64 bit without having to reinstall every apps13:20
haqe17cg2916: thats grub213:20
davidiskoam i missing something?13:20
ikoniadivamiller: there isn't13:20
divamillerthere is13:21
ikoniadavidisko: I believe you'll need to use the alternative install for that (not %100 sure)13:21
ikoniadivamiller: oh, please tell me how to convert a 32bit box to a 64bit without an install13:21
ikoniadivamiller: I'd love to hear there13:21
borilliondivamiller: really if there is I would like to know also13:21
ikoniaborillion: there isn't13:21
divamillerlol13:21
ikoniadivamiller: please explain how you do it13:22
davidiskoikonia: i'll try in a second...13:22
divamillerthat sux13:22
ikoniadivamiller: you said there is a way, lets hear it13:22
borillionikonia: I know :D13:23
divamilleri never say there is a way13:23
borillionikonia: come on be nice13:23
divamilleri thought there is a way and i have no idea how to do it13:23
ikoniadivamiller: 13:21 < divamiller> there is13:23
ikoniadivamiller: I told you there wasn't a way, you then said "there is"13:23
borillionikonia: virtual machine it LOL13:23
gopperIs there a global-menu support for KDE applications under ubuntu 10.04?13:24
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ikoniaborillion: still needs a reinstall or initial install13:24
GothCCikonia: what was the 'client' it used to use by default? Back when I used *nix before I never had to specify a client13:24
divamillerwhatever that's gay13:24
borillionikonia: I know that LOL, I was kidding13:24
ikoniaGothCC: xmms (client,) changed when xmms2 was written to a client server model13:24
borilliondivamiller: you would be surprised lol, XP runs better in a vitual machine that it does on hardware HEHEHE13:25
ikoniadivamiller: please don't use gay as derogatory, and please don't say things are possible that you know are not13:25
oCeandivamiller: don't use such language here13:25
yeatsdivamiller: you can do 'dpkg --get-selections' to record your current packages13:25
avoikonia, nothing is impossible13:25
borillionyeats:Not a bad idea13:25
root1фынапзщх13:26
ikoniaavo: please don't be silly, you can't upgrade a 32bit system to a 64bit system13:26
cg2916haqe17: can't get it to work13:26
yeatsdivamiller: do 'dkpg --get-selections >> my-packages' copy the 'my-packages' file to external media, then do 'sudo dpkg --set-selections my-packages' after reinstalling 64-bit13:26
divamilleri type dpkg --get-selections in the terminal13:27
divamillerand there is a huge list popping up13:27
cg2916i can't get on ubuntu, i get stuck on grub13:27
IdleOnedivamiller: dkpg --get-selections >> my-packages13:27
divamillerwhatever forget about it13:27
borillionI can think of several ways to try but it would be ugly, I dont know if they would work, and its not exactly an upgrade13:27
yeatsdivamiller: right - that's your list of all installed software (that you installed with APT)13:27
IdleOnedivamiller: then entire line is the command13:28
avois the irc showing out ip's?13:28
borilliondivamiller: just email it to yourself13:28
haqe17cg2916: u could try booting ubuntu from the grub cmd, but that wouldnt fix the problem13:28
ruanavo: it does, if you're not registered with a cloak13:28
divamilleri will just use a flash install13:28
divamillertoo complicated13:28
yeatsdivamiller: it's actually very simple13:28
divamillerthe irony is that i have been using ubuntu since grade 813:28
haqe17cg2916: something like:  linux /boot/vmlinuz ro13:28
cg2916_i can't get on ubuntu13:29
divamillerand i have not mastered it13:29
divamillerlol13:29
steve0hhiiIt's earth hour!!!13:29
cg2916_i get stuck on grub13:29
ruanorly13:29
divamillerearth hour13:29
cg2916_can anybody help me?13:29
avohmm, why does it that do? isn't that bad for us?13:29
divamillerwhat about mars hour13:29
divamillerdoom?13:29
divamilleranyone13:29
IdleOne!ot13:29
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:29
cg2916_haqe17: i don't know my x,y13:29
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DirtyDawg avo just get a cloak13:29
DirtyDawgthey be free13:29
ruanavo: ask in #freenode, i did that and got a cloak shortly afterwards13:29
steve0hhii:(13:29
divamilleri wish alienware m11x r2 is fully supported by ubuntu13:30
GothCCikonia: ahhh, I see... well that would make sense then. I wonder what client there is that looks like the old 'xmms'13:30
ruanavo: remember you need to be registered first13:30
divamillertoo bad oem does not like linux13:30
ikoniadivamiller: complain to alienware,13:30
ikoniaGothCC: as I recall, its very similar13:30
cg2916_hello?13:30
ikoniaGothCC: not used it in a long time13:30
cg2916_how do i figure out my hdX,Y13:30
divamilleri know13:30
divamilleris there any linux friendly oem notebook?13:31
avook, im a total noob, i guess the reason im asking is because i want to better understand why it does this. i have nothing valubal to protect on this machine anyways, but thats for the sugestion13:31
avothanks*13:31
truepurpleCan different linux distros on the same hard drive, share the same swap partition?13:31
ikoniadivamiller: generic linux stuff, try asking in ##linux13:31
ikoniatruepurple: yes13:31
divamilleris there a way to install a hdd lock in a fresh install of ubuntu13:32
divamiller?13:32
divamillerkind of like the one in fedora13:32
ikoniahdd lock ?13:32
IdleOnebios password13:32
divamillernot bios password13:32
truepurpleikonia Can the swap partition be a logistical partition on extended?13:32
ikoniatruepurple: yes13:32
SwedeMiketruepurple: it can be anything, even a file.13:32
divamilleri mean in fedora you have two password to login into the linux13:33
avodoes an ip cloak apply to all of my connections or just the irc?13:33
divamilleritself it there a way to do it on ubuntu as well?13:33
ikoniaavo: ask in #freenode13:33
ikoniadivamiller: disk encyption is an obvious "lock" option13:33
divamilleror triple des login?13:33
KillGutaIs there any way to "reload the firmware" list or something like that?13:33
ikoniaKillGuta: the firmware list ?13:33
divamillerhow do i do a disk encyption13:33
truepurpleSwedemike: I was told that the swap space had to have its own partion, specifically can not be on the same partition space as the OS, are you saying this is wrong?13:33
avo#freenode13:33
ikoniatruepurple: very wrong13:34
KillGutaikonia, installed the firmware for wireless card, but it's still not working13:34
KillGutaand I can't restart since it's live cd13:34
kellnola_truepurple, linux can use swap files, it does have to be a partition at all13:34
snappCorrection: when I connect to the server via ssh, after entering the13:35
snappusername, the connection to the server goes down and the network card eth0 is no longer pingabile, but the server can ping the client.13:35
snappI have two network cards, eht1 who has never had any problems, while eth0 from the problem described above. Trying another client gets the same problem, and that means' once you have inserted username, you log off13:35
FloodBot3snapp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:35
symptomOk, This might not be the right channel to ask, but does anyone have any experience using nvidia optimus with linux, and getting the nvidia card running instead of the intel card?13:35
divamilleris there a way to setup a triple des login in ubuntu 10.1013:35
ikoniasymptom: just disable the intel card in your bios13:36
symptomikonia, have you done this?13:36
ikoniasymptom: very similar13:36
divamillerooo i need the alternative install disk13:36
truepurplekellnola_: sure without a shadow of a doubt?13:36
yeats!alternate | divamiller13:36
ubottudivamiller: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal13:36
Cube``test13:37
kellnola_truepurple, yes, since I've used them many times13:37
divamilleris alternate hard to install13:37
divamiller# ubuntu-10.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent ???13:38
MeanEYEdivamiller: it requires more understanding and it's a text mode install13:38
researcher123I have 9.10m and 10.04 in stalled side by side. I want to uninstall 9.10 n use that  space for 10.04.Any guidance please?13:38
KillGutaHow do I reload the firmware list or reload the network drivers?13:38
symptomikonia, from what I read it is not that simple.13:38
divamillertext mode install as in13:38
ikoniasymptom: it's very simple13:39
divamillerno gui13:39
ikoniadivamiller: it's a text menu interface13:39
divamillercmd stle install?13:39
truepurplekellnola_ That swap file running on the same partition as linux?13:39
divamilleroooo13:39
ikoniadivamiller: no, menu driven13:39
divamillercool13:39
researcher123hello13:40
yeatsdivamiller: just try the alternate installer out - if you have questions ask here13:42
truepurplekellnola_ That swap file running on the same partition as linux?13:42
GothCCikonia: thanks for the info... I found a decent client for it I suppose; permitting I can find themes for it anyways (Promoe)13:42
delawareexit13:43
kellnola_truepurple, YES. god. "man mkswap"13:43
cablophow toclose the vncviewer?13:45
AgentCarmichaelHello.13:45
cablopit is not allowing me to do anything13:45
AgentCarmichaelcablop, end the process?13:45
cg2916i'm still stuck on grub command line13:45
AgentCarmichaelI have just shrunken the logical partition inside my extended partition (where my data is) from 335 GB to 300 GB. I did this so I could give my Windows drive more space. Now I have a problem: the free space is inside the extended partition and Windows is inside the root, outside of the extended partition.. How do I take the free space out of the extended into the root?13:45
cablopas i said, i cannot switch to anyother windows, so no way to reach the terminal to kill it13:45
cablop¬¬13:45
cablopubuntu remote desktop is crap13:46
ruani prefer ssh13:46
cablopssh?13:46
ruanfull control13:46
ruan!ssh13:46
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)13:46
cablopi need a remote gui13:46
researcher123I have 9.10  and 10.04 installed side by side. I want to uninstall 9.10 n use that space for 10.04.Any guidance please?13:46
cablopnot remote shell13:46
ruanwhy do you need a gui?13:46
cg2916can anyone help me?13:46
cablopmy users need it13:46
ikoniaresearcher123: just delete it13:46
kellnola_yeah I've almost never needed any remote desktop in linux, you can run any gui programs with ssh13:46
oCeancablop: ssh -X forwards x13:46
yeatscablop: ssh -X provides graphical services over SSH13:46
ruanoh ok. then teamviewer13:46
cablopno way my users won't type on a terminal13:47
ruanhmm x13:47
researcher123ikonia: how can I do that? Safe method? GRUB is not shared?13:47
kellnola_cablop, oh13:47
ikoniaresearcher123: delete the partition, if you need to re-apply grub13:47
ruancablop: then provide a shortcut?13:47
yeatscablop: you can do Places -> Connect to Server... and set up the SSH connection13:47
cablopif i can forward a whole desktop via ssh it'll be nice13:47
yeatscablop: no command line necessary13:47
cablopcan i forward a whole desktop session?13:48
researcher123ikonia: actually im quite new so dont know on which partition is 9.10 installed?13:48
cg2916i'm stuck on grub13:48
yeatscablop: not via SSH, no13:48
kellnola_cablop, what is wrong with remote desktop again?13:48
cablopi was looking for a vnc solution  also, but the remote desktop of ubuntu sucks13:48
ruancablop: try teamviewer13:48
cablopwell, i opened it13:48
ikoniaresearcher123: use the uuid's13:48
cablopit is a full screen with no panels13:48
researcher123!uuid13:48
ubottuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)13:48
cablopand unable to close it13:48
GothCCcablop: teamviewer or tightvnc are good options imo13:48
cablopso i locked the client13:48
cablopteamviewer is so slow13:48
cablopcause the computer had compiz enabled13:49
researcher123ikonia: ok.im reading this doc https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks then will proceed13:49
ikoniaresearcher123: good call13:49
cablopmmm13:49
fernandofathi all13:49
yeatscablop: compiz is probably the problem - can you disable compiz?13:50
cabloptezmviewer will be nivce if onl;y one user works on that computer13:50
cablopi need for any user to be able to have a remote session, without needing to spawn local sessions on the remote computer13:50
cablopi think tightvnc with ssh will be a nice solution, huh?13:50
mongyssh with xnest maybe?13:50
fernandofatI just wrecked Ubuntu 10.10 video driver so it boots only to command line13:50
cablopxnest?13:50
ikoniacablop: looked at ltsp ?13:51
yeatsfernandofat: what type of video card?13:51
researcher123ikonia: cant make a way out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks13:51
cablopdunno what ltsp is13:51
ikoniaresearcher123: sorry what ?13:51
ikoniacablop: check it out13:51
kellnola_well, remote X is a little on the slow side and is insecure unless encrypted13:51
researcher123ikonia: u suggested using UUID which I dont know13:51
truepurplekellnola_ So should I just set up the partition for linux to install on for now, then I can set up extended logic drives from within the linux installation itself?13:51
oCean!info vinagre | cablop13:52
ubottucablop: vinagre (source: vinagre): remote desktop client for the GNOME Desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 2.30.2-1ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 492 kB, installed size 1740 kB13:52
nathan42100can someone help me? Trying to configure a live cd of 10.04.2 using uck. When chrooted, I can't install nfs-common, it says statd is an unknown service. I've manually installed statd and it still says unknown service, so nfs-common won't configure properly.13:52
ikoniaresearcher123: type "sudo blkid" to see a list of what you have13:52
researcher123ok13:52
fernandofathow can I restore previous good video driver configuration for ubuntu 10.10?13:52
cablopvinagre13:53
ruanfernandofat: try regenerating xorg.conf13:53
ruanfernandofat: if it exists13:53
cablopltsp would be nice, but i'll need to run it through virtual machines, cause locla machines are different13:53
kellnola_fernandofat, well, when you type "startx" at the terminal, what happens?13:53
cablopltsp would be nice13:53
fernandofatruan: okay I will give it a try13:53
cablopeither13:53
Pumpkin-any idea why copy+pasting large amounts of text between two terminals takes so long. Like 2mins+ for around 30000 lines of text ?13:53
researcher123ikonia: it displays this http://paste.ubuntu.com/585859/13:53
fernandofatkellnola_: xorg exits with errors13:53
del_diabloIt seems that the usb disk created from unetbootin is corrupt, as usual.......... This time the installation worked, except it gave the system incorrect UIDs, which fixing is quite easy. Can someone link me to the bugtracker?13:54
mongynathan42100, use remastersys, much easier.13:54
ruan!bug13:54
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots13:54
truepurplekellnola_: So should I just set up the partition for linux to install on for now, then I can set up extended logic drives from within the linux installation itself?13:54
del_diabloPumpkin-: Do you use middlemouse paste, or a different methode?13:54
kellnola_truepurple, of course. or you can do everything in the installer13:54
Pumpkin-middlemouse paste yeah13:54
del_diabloruan: I asked for something a bit more spesific, I am well aware the tracker exists.....13:55
fernandofatkellnola_: I just downloaded (from ATI) and installed the official ATI video driver Radeon HD 3200 for thinkpad x100e13:55
ruandel_diablo: the link to the bugtracker may be contained within that link13:55
del_diabloruan: I recommend you to learn english.13:55
Anonymoosehello, i have a quick question: I just tried to install 8.04 with full disk encryption. the issue I'm having is that the initrd doesn't include ide-generic, which is required for my disk to work. so I end up in that busybox shell and I don't know how to boot the encrypted system so I can then add ide-generic to the initrd. can someone please help me? :)13:55
kellnola_fernandofat, yes, which errors though. Isn't your driver in the  ubuntu repo?13:55
jribdel_diablo: please take the time to read information given to you, it answers your question13:55
cablopwhat about nomachine|nx?13:55
truepurplekellnola_ How do I install extended logic drives from within the installer? I don't even see information about whether a drive is primary or extended13:55
mycosysanonymoose 8.04 is ancient13:56
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mycosyswhy not 10.04?13:56
Anonymoosei know, i need it for compatibility reasons13:56
fernandofatkellnola_: no the driver wasnt from the repo :(13:56
uabn93Hello, does anyone know how to install sound themes in ubuntu 10.10? I can't get them to work.13:56
fernandofatkellnola_: got the driver directly at ATI website13:56
jribdel_diablo: if you prefer, you can go to http://bugs.ubuntu.com and click on "Report a bug" which will send you to the link ruan gave you.  And keep in mind we're all volunteers trying to help one another13:56
fernandofatkellnola_: i'll try to put some errors here13:57
snappI did a test, I put in ping the server from the client on eth0, I am connected to the server on eth1 and I put them under even ping the server on eth0, the client after entering the user name to connect to the server via ssh , I get the message: Request timed out, while eth1 ping continues, so it looks as if it closed the connection from 'outside.13:57
Anonymoosemycosys, do you know how I can resume the boot process once I manually loaded the ide-generic module? I'm stuck in that busybox13:57
del_diablojrib: I recommend you also to learn to read English.  The bugtracker is located over at13:57
del_diablohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=installation+uid&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_packag13:57
del_diabloasked if anybody knew about any open UID bugs.......13:57
FloodBot3del_diablo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:57
yeatssnapp: are you checking your logs when this happens?13:57
mycosysnope - but u should have been able to do it earier shouldnt u, at grub?13:57
op_ampI want to grep in whole system to find a file having "term1". The file type is of cpp and on the console I only want to display matched file, not unnecessary msgs like couldn't open this file, unable to find that.13:57
Anonymoosei can load modules in grub?13:58
IdleOne!attitude | del_diablo13:58
ubottudel_diablo: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines13:58
del_diabloAnonymoose: No, but you can blacklist13:58
Anonymoosehm but how does that help me13:58
truepurplekellnola_ How do I install extended logic drives from within the installer? I don't even see information about whether a drive is primary or extended13:58
kellnola_truepurple, not sure about the graphical install since I've always used the alternate cd or upgraded in place. The gui installer does hide a lot from you, especially with setting up your filesystems13:58
del_diabloAnonymoose: What do you want done?13:58
Anonymoosei need the ide-generic in my initrd13:59
Anonymoosemodule*13:59
ZULOone question, for connecto to wifi with file /interfaces i need unninstall network manager?13:59
truepurplekellnola_ But doing it from the ubuntu install itself is much easier?13:59
divamilleralmost done dling alternative cd14:00
Anonymoosecan anyone please tell me how i can resume the boot process from that initramfs-busybox-shell? :(14:00
snappyeats: I put in the trace file / var / log / auth.log, but when youyou disconnect , it does nothing14:00
gopperIs there a global-menu support for KDE applications under ubuntu 10.04?14:01
mrdebwhich is safer; firefox or chrome14:01
ikonianeither14:01
ikonianeither are "safer" than the other14:01
aeon-ltdmrdeb: you make it safer, they are all pretty well maintained14:01
bornpilotchrome if you follow pwn2own but that was not entirely correct either14:01
naoshigeAnybody know of any commercial cloths for removing grease from ones MacBook Pro? I had a barbecue the other day. Kids took the MacBook. The rest is history :)14:01
mrdebchrome doesnt work well with hulu when blocking is enabled. firefox does14:02
del_diabloAnonymoose: You need to find a way of mounting root on /, and then some magic. It is easier to fix the driver via a livecd. What errors did you get to get into busybox?14:02
aeon-ltdnaoshige: not really the right channel14:02
oCeannaoshige: how is that related to #ubuntu?14:02
jribnaoshige: this channel is dedicated to ubuntu support only14:02
naoshigemy macbook runs ubuntu14:02
aeon-ltdlol t-t-t-triple attack14:02
yeatssnapp: if one of the network interfaces is being disabled, there should be something in dmesg about it - try 'dmesg | grep eth'14:02
naoshigecome on guys dont be so cold14:02
mycosystry exit anonymoose14:02
ZULOone question, for connect to wifi with file /interfaces i need unninstall network manager?14:02
aeon-ltdnaoshige: we're not but others need ubuntu related help14:02
Anonymoosemycosys: it just respawns the shell14:02
naoshigetrue that14:02
naoshigemycosys: was that for me?14:03
jribnaoshige: how to cook chicken?  The recipe for chicken I am using is on my macbook that has ubuntu cd in cdrom ;)14:03
mycosysbugger - has worked for me when i had drives missing from fstab14:03
naoshigehe he he14:03
jribnaoshige: try #ubuntu-offtopic or one of the mac channels14:03
naoshigehaha check this14:03
naoshige< enclaved> i hear the blood of children cleans away all sins14:03
ruannaoshige: still offtopic14:04
naoshigethats from ##apple14:04
naoshigewell thanks guys im out14:04
del_diabloI had a launchpad account a year ago, is it gone because of the openid change? Or can I still use it to login?14:04
icerootdel_diablo: try it?14:04
Anonymoosecan anyone please help me to boot my system? I'm stuck in busybox because the initrd doesn't contain the ide-generic module14:05
snappyeats: http://dev.pastebin.it/qzeacx14:05
icerootAnonymoose: boot if with a live-cd and rebuild the ramdisk (and before, load the module with modprobe)14:06
mycosysanonymoose - all-generic-ide is a kernel boot option i believe, or was14:06
ecnabilHey a little help, I have ssh-ed into my server and tried to change my password (sudo passwd) it asked me for a new one I type it in. I restart init.d/ssh and logout. But the password I ssh in with stays the same as the old password!!14:06
Anonymooseiceroot: i have full disk encryption... i was hoping i could resume from busybox to do it on the real system14:06
Anonymoosekernel option? I'll try that, thanks!14:06
Pumpkin-ecnabil: "sudo passwd" will change roots password. This is almost certainly not what you wanted to do.14:06
ZULOone question, for connect to wifi with file /interfaces i need unninstall network manager? log here http://paste.ubuntu.com/585834/14:06
gopperIs there a global-menu support for KDE applications under ubuntu 10.04?14:07
ecnabilahhh....14:07
ecnabilno, that is not what I wanted to do14:07
Pumpkin-ecnabil: use "passwd" (no sudo) to set change your own password.14:07
bornpilotecnabil : don't use password auth. for ssh use key based auth. for ssh.14:07
del_diabloIs there any way of editing HD files from busybox, and reading what drives are located where?(IE: /dev/sbg)14:07
jribecnabil: also, you don't need to restart sshd but if you ever do use « sudo service ssh restart » not the /etc/init.d script14:07
jribecnabil: to change your user's password, just run "passwd" as your user14:08
Pumpkin-and then I'd recommend "sudo passwd -l root" to change root to an account that cannot be logged into with a password.14:08
nathan42100can someone help me? Trying to configure a live cd of 10.04.2 using uck. When chrooted, I can't install nfs-common, it says statd is an unknown service. I've manually installed statd and it still says unknown service, so nfs-common won't configure properly.14:08
snappyeats: http://dev.pastebin.it/qzeacx14:08
ecnabilthanks jrib bornpilot and Pumpkin14:08
jribPumpkin-, ecnabil: to revert the root account's password back to its original state you should do: sudo usermod -p '!' root14:09
yeatssnapp: try doing 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' while logging in and see what it tells you as you do it - that may lead to the solution14:09
Pumpkin-I'd got with jrib's method, as I'd have used "vipw -s" :)14:10
dgtlhi there, i just wondered why there is no vdpau for xine (libxine) and based applications such as ḱaffeine, it is not possible to watch 1080{p,i} content at the moment with a small cpu14:10
dgtlpolitely, this sucks14:10
dgtljust in case it is someone in here, who feels responsible14:11
del_diablodgtl: https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa relevant?14:11
dgtldel_diablo, no, checked, it, no libxine for 10.4 and 10.1014:11
snappyast: http://dev.pastebin.it/li0ef014:12
downloadSSHwhen I type 1 in TTY it writes "^[[[E1" how can fix it?14:12
dgtldel_diablo, one would have to go back to 9.xx for having vdpau support in ubuntu14:12
dgtlthats...disgusting14:12
del_diablodgtl: File a bug report, and then convince 20-30 people to "agree" that is it broken. Sadly the only way to get it fixed :(14:12
ruandownloadSSH: what is TTY?14:13
yeatssnapp: doesn't look relevant :-/14:13
ruanhmmm14:13
icerootdownloadSSH: from the numpad or the real "1" near esc?14:13
downloadSSH[[E114:13
yeats!tty | ruan14:13
ubotturuan: To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution.14:13
dgtldel_diablo, no way, i wrote bug reports before, they have been 'autoclosed' after a few month, nothing happened at all14:13
downloadSSHyes iceroot14:13
ZULOone question, for connect to wifi with file /interfaces i need unninstall network manager? log here http://paste.ubuntu.com/585834/14:14
Anonymoosethe all-generic-ide seems to do nothing. any other ideas pls?14:14
icerootdownloadSSH: that was not a yes/no question14:14
dgtlknowing that before, i would have stayed with freeBSD14:14
downloadSSHiceroot: I type 1 and it writes [[E114:14
mycosystry ^d from the busybox onece u modprobe14:14
downloadSSHiceroot: 1 is near to esc14:14
dgtlsince the multimedia skills are the same14:14
mycosyshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/32268014:14
ubottuUbuntu bug 322680 in linux (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 8.04 SLS will not load ide-generic module on boot" [Undecided,Expired]14:14
icerootdgtl: write patches :)14:14
downloadSSHiceroot: so cannot type 1 or ! (alt+1)14:14
dgtlice799, swing my balls:)14:15
dgtliceroot14:15
dgtlsorry14:15
downloadSSH!languauge14:15
icerootdownloadSSH: hm never heard of that problem before14:15
icerootdgtl: we dont need that here14:15
truepurplekellnola_ You there?14:15
dgtloh yeah, language, right14:15
del_diablodgtl: Welcome to the point where I lost my faith in humanity. The problem is that you need to find 20-30 people to go the bugtracker and confirm the bug. Or you could bother the devs, but for Ubuntu the devs are antisocial and do not even hang out somewhere.14:15
downloadSSHiceroot: my keyboard is PT-PT14:15
gopperIs there a global-menu support for KDE applications under ubuntu 10.04?14:16
dgtldel_diablo, i see, thanks for the hint and taking the time explaining that to me14:16
JoeSmithi am getting the following error when creating a partition in parted: "Warning: The resulting partition is not properly aligned for best performance."14:16
Anonymoosehow can i resume booting from the initramfs busybox?14:17
Goliathhey i have a folder named .winestuff in home. What is it?14:17
JoeSmithi am getting the following error when creating a partition in parted: "Warning: The resulting partition is not properly aligned for best performance."14:17
truepurpleI am getting a warning regarding partition disks regarding setting up a partition for swap space, that if I continue I won't have swap space, so how do I get it to do swap space without a dedicated partition14:17
snappyeats: I was wrong, I did not try to connect, but I have to wait again reached :((((((14:17
yeatsAnonymoose: no - you might try downloading the alternate installer CD for the version you're on and select "Repair a Broken System"14:18
yeats!alternate | Anonymoose14:18
ubottuAnonymoose: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal14:18
edbiantruepurple, You can create a swap file after you've installed.  It is usually recommended to have a swap partition14:18
BluesKajHowdy14:18
Anonymooseyeats: i installed using the alternate cd. my issue is that i have full disk encryption and I assume it will be a pain in the ass to fix it using a rescue cd14:18
snappyeast: ok i try14:18
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davidiskoikonia: yes, encryption was in alternate installer.. but why not in desktop?14:19
Goliath i have a folder named .wine in my home dir. How can i find out if its 32bit or 64bit?14:19
truepurpleedbian: Why is it recommended to have a swap partition?14:19
yeatsAnonymoose: don't know - I've never dealt with encryption ;-)14:19
edbiantruepurple, It is simpler to set up. That's probably about it.14:19
Anonymooseyeats: cryptsetup can't access the disk and therefore i end up in busybox. then i load ide-generic and the disks appear. so how can I make it boot?14:19
fernandofatkellnola_ & ruan: I did the following, I removed the video driver through apt-get and remove Xorg.conf, reboot, now I can boot to GUI. Thanks for the help!14:19
truepurpleedbian: How much space would you recommend for ubuntus partition?14:20
yeatsAnonymoose: sorry, that's beyond my experience14:20
Anonymooseok, thanks14:20
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icerootAnonymoose: build the ramdisk, "mkinitramfs" its building the ramdisk and used the loaded modules14:20
edbiantruepurple, For / or swap or (/ and separate /home) ?14:20
icerootAnonymoose: the your needed module will be in the ramdisk14:21
Anonymooseiceroot: I know, that's what I'm trying to do... but to do that i have to first manually boot14:21
downloadSSHhow can I change keyboard layout for TTY?14:21
truepurpleedbian: I don't know what you mean, I mean the partition I install ubuntu on14:21
Anonymooseiceroot: but I'm stuck in busybox :D14:22
icerootAnonymoose: you just need acces to your system thorugh a live-cd or busy-box14:22
snappyeast: nothing, if I try to put in the syslog trace with "tail-f / var / log / syslog", when I connect in ssh I get nothing14:22
icerootAnonymoose: but using a live-cd is much easier then fighting with busy-box14:22
yeatssnapp: okay - that's all I know to recommend ;-)14:22
Anonymooseiceroot: ok hmm... so how do I get access to the disk using a live cd?14:23
Anonymooseiceroot: I assume i need to chroot it?14:23
icerootAnonymoose: boot from the live-cd, mount your drives. thats all14:23
truepurpleedbian: For ubuntu and swap files, how big should I make said partition?14:23
edbiantruepurple, If you put all of Ubuntu on one partition (very normal thing to do) I will tell you that Ubuntu takes ~3Gb after install. And it will probably grow to ~10Gb at the absolute most.  The rest of the space will all be used up by your personal files.  The swap should be a separate partition of about 1 or 2 Gb.14:23
nathan42100can someone help me? Trying to configure a live cd of 10.04.2 using uck. When chrooted, I can't install nfs-common, it says statd is an unknown service. I've manually installed statd and it still says unknown service, so nfs-common won't configure properly.14:24
icerootAnonymoose: i dont think so you need chroot to build the ramdisk, but it should be not a problem ti chroot the system to be sure14:24
Anonymooseiceroot: ok thanks, I guess I will do that now.14:24
ikonianathan42100: uck ?14:24
nathan42100uck.sourceforge.net14:24
edbiantruepurple, Besides my user files, my Operating System takes up 3.3Gb and I've been running linux for years14:24
ikonianathan42100: that's nothing to do with Ubuntu14:24
ikonianathan42100: there is a support forum and mailing list on that page for that product14:25
nathan42100ikonia: the issue exists when installing stuff via chroot14:25
nathan42100everything else installed fine14:25
truepurpleebian: You said the only benefit to having swap in a separate partition is easier to install?14:25
JemtHello guys. Will Ubuntu be able to automatically load Wifi drivers contained in linux-backports-modules-wireless ?14:25
ikonianathan42100: they have support researches14:25
JemtI'm remastering Ubuntu to include as many network drivers as possible14:25
edbiantruepurple, Yes it's easier to do than create a swap file and you really should have a swap of some kind.14:25
ikoniaJemt: it does it on hardware detection14:25
ikoniaJemt: we don't support custom build projects14:25
edbianJemt, It pretty much already does.14:25
nathan42100ikonia: can we treat this as if I was just having issues installing that package?14:26
ikonianathan42100: no14:26
JemtSo it that a "no" ?14:26
truepurpleEbian: Is easier the only benefit? And is it really so hard to create a swap file?14:26
ikoniaJemt: no, that's a yes, but we don't support you building your own spin14:26
Jemtikonia: That's alright, don't' got any problems with that :)14:27
del_diabloHow do I detect what HD is where from inside busybox? And how do I edit tekstfiles? I managed to mount my root partition and i used cat to to read /etc/fstab....14:27
ikoniaJemt: cool14:27
JemtThanks guys :)14:27
edbiantruepurple, I've never made a swap file myself.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq   The swap partition is a matter of using the installer's automagic partitioner.14:27
phaseshifttruepurple and edbian: One other advantage of a swap partition could be the absence of filesystem overhead needed to access a swap file located within ext3 or such.14:27
pearsonldoes canonical sell anything besides support?14:27
ikoniapearsonl: products such as landscape14:28
truepurplephaseshift: I didn't understand that14:28
ikoniapearsonl: look on the website14:28
edbianphaseshift, truepurple That's true.  The swap has it's own filesystem so if you create a swap file on an ext4 parititon then you have 2 filesystems (one embedded in the other) which is unnecessary14:28
erUSULpearsonl: coffee mugs and t-shirts ;P14:28
downloadSSHwhat is dram frequency14:28
pearsonlim on the website I couldnt find alot14:28
divamillerneed some help14:29
ikoniadivamiller: with what14:29
drcpearsonl: on you on the ubuntu or canonical website14:29
divamillerhow do you create live usb within ubuntu14:29
ikonia!install14:29
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate14:29
pearsonlhttp://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=4114:29
erUSULdivamiller: unetbootin or the usb creator14:29
iceroot!usb | divamiller14:29
ubottudivamiller: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent14:29
ikoniadivamiller: check thse links14:29
truepurpleedbian: the disadvantage of that being?14:29
divamilleri want to create a live gentoo usb under ubunt14:30
divamilleru14:30
divamillerso...14:30
divamillerthose links aren't useful14:30
ikoniadivamiller: ask the guys in #gentoo how to do it14:30
murphylanHi all, my issue as same as this url: http://serverfault.com/questions/248275/installing-mysql-server-on-ubuntu-10-0414:30
murphylanwho can help me14:30
edbiantruepurple, When a file is stored, when filesystem tells another filesystem that tells the hdd how to write the 1's and 0's  Ordinarily only 1 filesystem does this and it is faster.  Probably not a thing you'd notice since the OS rarely waits for disc I/O to do something (especially from swap).14:31
phaseshifttruepurple: What it means is that a simple swap partition is dedicated to swapping functions and can be directly written in large chunks.  If your swap is a file inside another filesystem like ext3, there's additional work for the system to do when writing because the filesystem driver is doing its thing (splitting into inodes, mapping blocks to different parts of the filesystem's partition, etc.).  It's not a huge performance loss, but 14:31
phaseshiftbe important to someone somewhere.14:31
icerootdivamiller: live-gentoo? live-compiling? :)14:31
ikoniamurphylan: is this on a vpn ?14:31
edbiantruepurple, It's the kind of thing that you'd see in a benchmark but never notice using the computer.14:31
ikoniamurphylan: sorry, vps14:31
phaseshiftedbian: Well said.14:31
edbianphaseshift, Thanks14:31
edbiantruepurple, The real thing we should be talking about here is 'why do you want to use a swap file' in the first place?  If there is no reason to use it then creating a swap file is much simpler14:32
truepurpleSimplifies my partitions14:33
Cube``supp14:33
Cube``truepurple: ?14:33
cbkiaerror : file not found........ grub rescue> ... what shld i do now14:33
ikoniatruepurple: how hard is this, you need one partition for / (root)) and one partition for swap, why are you making this so hard14:34
edbiantruepurple, Creates less of them.  I don't know if that's more simple.  Is 1 thing more simple than 2 things?  IDK14:34
truepurpleI need at least 5 with a swap partition14:34
ikoniatruepurple: why ?14:35
edbiantruepurple, You only need 2 for Ubuntu14:35
ikoniatruepurple: why do you need 5 partitions14:35
kellnola_phaseshift, well, if the systems actually using the swap, that's problem enough14:35
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truepurple1 for windows, 1 for linux, 1 for linux swap partition, a spare one for maybe trying out a second distro, a main one for my files, perhaps a second main one for ext4 type saves14:36
ikoniatruepurple: don't mix and match distros, dual booting especially with ubuntu 10.04 and later is scrappy14:36
cbkiaerror : file not found........ grub rescue> ... what shld i do now .. .I just wanna be able to boot into my windows now14:36
truepurpleAnyway, if there is no disadvantage to using a swap file, and I have yet to hear one...14:36
ikoniatruepurple: 1 partition for windows, 1 partitions ubuntu 1 partition for swap, keep it simple14:36
ikoniatruepurple: you're new to ubuntu and linux, keep it simple, 3 partitions, clean and easy14:37
truepurpleNaw, I am not putting general files on the same partition as the OS's14:37
ikoniatruepurple: why ?14:37
kellnola_truepurple, that's a windows mentality :)14:37
truepurpleBecause it makes fresh installs so much more complicated14:37
ikoniatruepurple: ok, so create a /home directory14:37
ikoniatruepurple: put that on a partition on it's own14:38
edbiantruepurple, If you want to leave space open for another distro just leave it unallocated for now.  You do not need a spare partition to store files.  Just make windows big and store the files there.  Linux can read the windows filesystem.  Last, you do not HAVE to store anything in ext4 except the actual Ubuntu OS.14:38
ikoniatruepurple: 1 windows, 1 ubuntu 1 home 1 swap, very simple14:38
edbianHaving a separate /home is generally a good idea and the Ubuntu installer has an automagic option for it I believe14:39
truepurpleAgain, what are the disavantages of having a swap partition, if any?14:40
truepurpleI mean of having a swap file instead of a partition14:40
ikoniatruepurple: none14:40
ikoniatruepurple: just keep it simple, you are new to linux14:40
ZULOtruepurple,  i think none14:40
ikoniatruepurple: use the partition layout I have given you14:40
edbiantruepurple, the disadvantages of a swap file are that it is harder to set up and has worse performance.14:40
kellnola_truepurple, loss of a little disk space, that's all14:40
edbianI don't count loss of space because swap is either a file or a partition, either way it's the same size.14:41
ruanis it ok to partition on a mounted drive (but partitioning unmounted partitions)14:41
neswhats going on guys14:41
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ikoniaruan: no14:41
kellnola_edbian, I think the point is moot since if the system is using swap at all the performance will be horrible either way14:41
ikoniaresearcher123: no14:41
ikoniaoops14:41
truepurpleI am hearing conflicting opinions, does having a swap file impact performance negatively or not?14:41
ikoniatruepurple: no14:41
ikoniatruepurple: we've said no , 3 times14:41
ikoniatruepurple: follow the partition example I gave you14:41
KtodiKhow do i get permition to extract any files to /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers?14:41
ikoniaKtodiK: use sudo14:41
edbiankellnola_, The swap will be slower in the swapfile than on the partition.  (I guess it is moot if moot means different but who cares)14:42
KtodiKikonia ?14:42
KtodiKikonia: use sudo and do what?14:42
edbianikonia, I disagree14:42
ikoniaKtodiK: you need root permission to access that file system, using sudo for the command to extract will allow it14:42
zxiest[a]Hello ... I'm getting insufficient permissions for adding an object to repository database ./objects . How can I grant my user this permission?14:42
edbianikonia, If you have a swap file you have two filesystems  (one on top of another).  That will be slower14:42
cbkiaerror : file not found........ grub rescue> ... what shld i do now14:42
cbkiaerror : file not found........ grub rescue> ... what shld i do now14:42
ikoniaedbian: he's running a home desktop, he's not going to see a differnce14:43
ikoniacbkia: please don't spam14:43
KtodiKikonia: but how? can u help?14:43
downloadSSHdammit14:43
ruancbkia: boot a livecd and restore grub14:43
ruan!grub214:43
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub214:43
ikoniaKtodiK: sudo chmod 777 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers14:43
ikoniaKtodiK: then do it14:43
kellnola_edbian, what I am saying is that worrying about minutiae of swap performance is a waste of time since the system has to come to it's knees anyway to be using the swap at all14:43
edbianikonia, He probably won't notice it.  Because swap read time probably doesn't affect I/O anyway.  I already explained this to him though.  So you telling him that it has no affect on performance is confusing.14:43
truepurpleikonia: edbian said it does negatively effect performance, so don't make it sound like its like everyone is saying the same thing. And if your right that it doesn't, no particular reason to put it in its own partition14:43
ikoniaedbian: it's not, as far as a home user is concerned it will have no difference14:43
edbianikonia, Sorry, swap read time does probably not affect user percieved latency14:43
ikoniatruepurple: look, do you have linux experence, yes or no14:44
eric_is there any good screen capture programs for ubuntu??14:44
ikoniaedbian: I agree with you which is why I'm saying it will have no performance impace for him14:44
truepurpleI am just just responding to what I am told14:44
KtodiKikonia: i still get "permisson denied"14:44
ikoniaKtodiK: then you didn't run the command I gave you14:44
edbianikonia, But the way you said it was confusing to him.  (obviously)14:44
niooinshello. someone told me about some ubuntu respect site. does anyone know whats its name?14:44
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neseric there is plenty of good ones :P14:44
ikoniatruepurple: you will have no performance impact, follow the partition layotu I gave you14:44
Xubuntunoobnes can you tell me some14:45
KtodiKikonia: nvm lol i typed the password wrong, it worked now, thanks14:45
gopperIs there a global-menu support for KDE applications under ubuntu 10.04?14:45
nesgtk-recordMyDesktop,14:45
ruanniooins: respect site?14:45
neswas the one i think i used.. not to sure :E14:45
truepurpleikonia: And no performance impact with using a swap file instead of a swap partition, according to your own words.14:45
ikoniatruepurple: use the partition layout I gave you14:45
ikoniatruepurple: 4 partitions, use the layout I gave you, keep it simple14:45
edbiantruepurple, ikonia Let's just agree that the swap file has 1 disadvantage and that is it is harder to set up.14:45
niooinsruan: yes. something to do with respect14:45
nesbut only really done desktop recording in windows and the trusty fraps is king :p14:45
ikoniaedbian: I've said that, which is why I ma telling him to use the 4 partition layout I've given him14:46
zxiest[a]ikonia I'm getting insufficient permissions for adding an object to repository database ./objects . How can I grant my user this permission?14:46
kellnola_KtodiK, then "sudo su"14:46
ikoniaKtodiK: no14:46
ikoniakellnola_: do not recommend that14:46
kellnola_why? many shell built-ins do not work with sudo14:46
ikoniakellnola_: they work fine14:47
edbiantruepurple, Instead of forcing you to install Ubuntu the way I want you to I'll help you do whatever you want and I'll only point out why you might want to do things differently.  I won't make you do things my way.  What do you want help with?14:47
AnonymooseFUUU 1. set hdd mode from ide to ahci, 2. ???, 3. PROFIT! thanks guys!14:47
ikoniaAnonymoose: ?14:47
Anonymoosei just fixed my problem. nevermind :D14:47
Xubuntunoobare there any screen capture programs i can install with synaptic??14:47
truepurpleIf it doesn't really matter whether I get a swap partition or swap file, then it doesn't matter14:48
edbianXubuntunoob, yes! sudo apt-get install gnome-screenshot14:48
ikoniaXubuntunoob: scrot14:48
ikoniatruepurple: yes it does14:48
ikoniatruepurple: listen to what you are being told14:48
truepurpleYou say it doesn't14:48
ikoniatruepurple: use the 4 partition layout I have given you14:48
gopperIs there a global-menu support for KDE applications under ubuntu 10.04...?14:48
Xubuntunoobi only just started with ubuntu like a month ago so im still getting used to it14:48
BluesKajXubuntunoob, try the prntscn key ...see what happens14:48
ikoniatruepurple: trust the advice you are getting14:48
edbiantruepurple, As long as you have one the system will be fine.14:48
edbiantruepurple, Which one you have is up to you.14:49
phaseshiftXubuntunoob: To confirm: are you looking to capture still images of your screen or video?14:49
Bipul`how to check my computer log14:49
Xubuntunoobblueskaj: i want to record stuff on desktop not just screen shots14:49
Bipul`any one know how shud i know when my computer is being online14:50
Xubuntunoobphaseshift: video14:50
downloadSSHI can't even delete text in TTY14:50
ikoniaBipul`: what ?14:50
edbiantruepurple, If you didn't have one, If your system tried to use more ram than it had then performance would drop to near 0 and your computer would become unusable until it finished what it was trying to do.14:50
Xubuntunoobalso while im here14:50
Xubuntunoobis there any other java for PowerPC that isnt as slow as OpenJDK?14:51
downloadSSH!tty > downloadSSH14:51
ubottudownloadSSH, please see my private message14:51
truepurpleWith 8GB, that is unlikely, anyway I said, Id perfer just to use swap file, if its just a bit more work to install14:51
Bipul`ikonia,  i just wants to know in my absence who has  loged into my computer14:51
Xubuntunoobor am i stuck with openjdk?14:51
zxiest[a]Does anybody know how I can grant a user permission to add objects to git's db?14:51
ikoniaBipul`: just do a "last"14:51
phaseshiftXubuntunoob: For video, I'm inclined to suggest the same thing someone mentioned previously ... the gtk-recordmydesktop package in Synaptic.14:51
KtodiKhow to modify refresh rate(vert/horiz).?????14:51
Xubuntunoobphaseshift: ok thanks ^_^14:51
phaseshiftXubuntunoob: Sure, good luck.14:52
downloadSSHIs there a guide on how to use keyboard in TTY14:52
mycosys having finished the upgrade(jaunty-karmic), apt-get upgrade -f wants to remove startup-tasks system-services ubuntu-minimal upstart-compat-sysv upstart-log  --- PLEASE tell me they are depicated in karmic :(, looks like they may conflict upstart?14:52
ikoniadownloadSSH: you just type14:52
Bipul`ikonia,  how to know last 7 days logs14:52
ikoniaBipul`: it logs over 7 days14:52
downloadSSHikonia: I can't type 1 or !14:52
yeatsdownloadSSH: it should work the same way as normal14:52
KtodiKhow to modify refresh rate(vert/horiz).?????14:52
downloadSSHyeats: but it's not :(14:52
yeatsdownloadSSH: could be a problem with your keyboard14:53
edbiantruepurple, Sure.  8Gb is a lot of ram.  I never use more than the 1Gb I have installed :)14:53
ikoniaKtodiK: you need to make an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file14:53
mycosysactionparsnip - u always answer14:53
downloadSSHyeats: when I type 1 it writes [[E114:53
ikoniatruepurple: don't have a swap partition or swap file14:53
KtodiKikonia: i just extracted the xorg.conf file i had downloaded, is that ok?14:53
ruani just removed libkdecore6, and some of my things disappeared somehow(SSH was gone, had to reinstall it), is there a reason for this?14:53
ikoniaKtodiK: probably not as it won't be setup for your machine14:54
downloadSSHyeats: I try backspace or delete to erase text but doesnt work14:54
edbiantruepurple, swap is also used to hibernate.  So don't expect that to work if you don't have swap.14:54
downloadSSHim confused with tty14:54
yeatsdownloadSSH: is this a new problem?14:54
snappyeats: mybe i resolved14:54
ruanalso, qt414:55
Bipul`    :0               Mon Mar 21 12:17 - down   (00:25) <-- what this down indicate14:55
edbiantruepurple, Since you have so much ram I suggest you install without a swap.  The first time you see a problem then learn how to create a swap file (or swap partition if you want)14:55
ruaneverything related to libqt wants to be autoremoved14:55
downloadSSHyeats: i dont know if it's new but it's a problem :s14:55
ikoniaBipul`: where are you looking14:55
edbiantruepurple, also, be aware, that a disc can only have 4 primary partitions on it, so if you have more than 4 partitions you need to create 'extended' or 'logical' partitions and fill them with physical partitions.14:55
yeatsruan: if you remove a software package that alot of other packages depend on, APT will automatically remove all of the packages14:56
downloadSSHyeats: it has worked before14:56
Bipul`ikonia,   i just type "last" in terminal14:56
ruanyeats: yes, but SSH does _not_ depend on libkde14:56
Cube``asd14:56
ikoniaBipul`: it means someone shut the machine down on the console14:56
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zxiest[a]what does this mean? chmod -R gituser.gituser objects?14:57
ruanok, one question: is qt4 required?14:57
ikoniazxiest[a]: it changes the owner of the directory and all bellow it14:57
ikoniaruan: for what ?14:57
yeatsdownloadSSH: can you boot up with a Live CD and test the keyboard? if it works with a live CD, Ubuntu is not mapping your key correctly - if it doesn't it's probably a hardware problem14:57
ruanikonia: for system operation14:57
ikoniaruan: depends what your running on your system14:58
Cube``test14:58
ruanikonia: apt is suggesting that i autoremove it14:58
Cube``ping me back14:58
Cube``ugh14:58
ruanCube``: ?14:58
ikoniaruan: it depends what you're running on your system if QT is needed14:58
edbianzxiest[a], chmod changes permissions, -R means recursively (all folders and sub folders), gituser.gituser is your username on git presumably, objects is the files you want to change permissions for.  What's weird is that chmod should have 777 or some other set of numbers.  This looks like a mess between chmod and chown (which changes owners)14:58
ruani guess i'll autoremove14:59
IdleOneruan: if apt is saying you can auto remove it, go ahead14:59
yeatsruan: one of the packages removed must have been a package SSH depends on - if you remove a core library package, it will always have this kind of effect14:59
kubanchow do i create trash icon on desktop?14:59
Cube``asd14:59
ruanit's 107MB of libs that it wants to autoremove14:59
IdleOneruan: you probably installed some KDE application and then removed it at some point14:59
ruanwhich is why im curious14:59
zxiest[a]ikonia edbian Thanks :-)14:59
ruanyeah i removed KDE itself14:59
edbianzxiest[a], I hope that's helpful!14:59
snappyeats: mybe is a bug, but i have resolved14:59
IdleOneruan: that is it. :)14:59
zxiest[a]edbian I'm trying to allow my user named git to be able to access objects15:00
KtodiKhow do i extract xorg.conf.gz and modify refresh rate(vert/horiz). ??15:00
ruani'll pastebin it15:00
KtodiKhow do i extract xorg.conf.gz and modify refresh rate(vert/horiz). ??15:00
IdleOne!fixres | KtodiK15:00
truepurpleedbian: I know, though im told that only matters with windows, anyway that is another reason to avoid a swap partition15:00
ubottuKtodiK: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution15:00
edbianzxiest[a], I would guess something like this: sudo chown -R git:git files15:00
phaseshiftTTY_problem: If you're having keyboard layout issues, perhaps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf is relevant?15:00
ruanhttp://pastebin.com/9iqKZUPN15:00
yeatsruan: you should read up on APT and how it works15:00
zxiest[a]edbian cool... will try it :-)15:01
yeats!apt | ruan15:01
ubotturuan: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)15:01
edbiantruepurple, No, the 4 physical partition limit is because of the physical hdd.  All hdd's do that.15:01
ruanyes i know how it works, but im curious as to if those packages are required for anything15:01
yeatssnapp: great!  glad you could work it out15:01
IdleOneruan: those are safe to remove. trust your apt, it knows.15:01
ruansince it's 107 mb of apps15:01
edbiantruepurple, Although windows might not support more than 4.  I have no idea.  Ubuntu does using extended (logical) partitions15:01
ikoniaruan: if they where the package manager would tell you to remove them15:01
ruanok then.15:02
phaseshiftedbian: Does the Ubuntu desktop installer default to LVM now?  That really helps cut down on the number of raw partitions required.15:02
KtodiKwhat does it means?15:02
edbianphaseshift, I don't believe so.  Fedora does!15:02
ruanwhat about hal?15:02
ruan!info hal15:02
ubottuhal (source: hal): Hardware Abstraction Layer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.14-0ubuntu6 (maverick), package size 356 kB, installed size 1652 kB15:02
yeatsruan: you can also browse http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to see what software depends on what15:02
jaliHi everyone. Anyone who can help with an ssh-agent related problem?15:02
KtodiKIdleOne: what dou mean??15:02
edbianphaseshift, But it does put all the Ubuntu stuff in an extended partition.15:02
ruanit autoremoved hal15:02
IdleOneKtodiK: I mean go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution and read :)15:02
ikoniaruan: it's not needed then15:02
truepurpleedbian: I meant that I am told the only time it matters whether a drive is primary or extended logical, is with windows15:03
IdleOneruan: apt will not remove anything it believes is needed. So if it is telling you to auto remove packages they are safe to remove15:03
ikoniatruepurple: windows doesn't care15:03
KtodiKIdleOne: all i want to do is to get this driver to work http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9920147&postcount=56815:03
ruanok. lol15:03
edbiantruepurple, That's probably true.  I can't say for sure though.  Seems very likely that windows cannot read extended partitions15:03
truepurpleikonia I was told windows doesn't work right on a extended logical.15:03
ikoniatruepurple: works fine15:04
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ikoniaeasier to put it on the first primary though15:04
Xubuntunoobi have a question15:04
txwHello15:04
truepurpleSo no difference at all between extended and primary in function?15:04
phaseshifttruepurple: I can believe that booting from an extended/logical partition would introduce complexity, but otherwise Windows and Ubuntu should both have no problems.15:04
Cube``txw: wadap15:04
ruanstill was strange for it to remove SSH15:04
KtodiKhow do i get permission to add files to /etc/X11/ ?+?15:04
ruanssh is not dependent on KDE15:04
ikoniaKtodiK: I told you earlier15:04
edbiantruepurple, phaseshift ikonia Can windows read some other partition that is inside an extended partition?15:05
dnivraphaseshift, truepurple I am able to boot from extended partitions. so it does work but not sure if always-mine could be an isolated case.15:05
antantCan I install ubuntu to a flash drive and keep the updates I add in?15:05
Xubuntunoobis there any better java for powerpc15:05
IdleOneantant: yes15:05
dnivraedbian, yes windows can.15:05
truepurplednivra windows?15:05
IdleOne!usb | antant15:05
ubottuantant: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent15:05
edbianantant, Yes, it's called persistent15:05
edbiandnivra, neat15:05
yeatsruan: not directly, but SSH must depend on a package that was being removed - it's like a chain reaction15:05
IdleOneantant: see the second link ubottu just gave you15:05
phaseshiftdnivra: Okay, I haven't created a logical partition in years thanks LVM so my knowledge may be out of date.  Apologies if that's the case.15:05
ruanstrange, because i reinstalled SSH and KDE is still not installed15:06
dnivratruepurple, i haven't tried windows just ubuntu :).15:06
antantcheers guys15:06
KtodiKno u told me how to add to /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers and i got it worked, but now i want add file to /etc/X11/ and i tried the same command but it doesnt do anything15:06
zxiest[a]what denotes current dir? . <- ?15:06
dnivraphaseshift, sure thing :).15:06
ruanzxiest[a]: ./ yes15:06
snappyets: yes ok its ok15:06
zxiest[a]ruan thanks :-)15:06
ikoniaKtodiK: just use the same command, but change the path15:06
truepurpleWell, seems I can't create extended with this boot program, so I guess I will have to install linux first, then I can just create a swap partition latter, right?15:06
KtodiKikonia: what path?15:07
ikoniatruepurple: the linux installer can create extended partitions fine15:07
ikoniaKtodiK: the path you want to change the permissions on so you can write to it15:07
phaseshifttruepurple: Can I ask what boot program you're referring to?15:07
edbiantruepurple, I don't know what the boot program is but when you go to install Ubuntu you have free reign over repartitioning the entire hdd.15:07
truepurpleunetbootin15:07
zxiest[a]does anybody know the path to git's repository database?15:07
truepurplenetinstall version15:07
edbiantruepurple, You can re-partition using a live CD at any time.  So yes you can set up a swap partition later15:08
dnivratruepurple, unetbootin just creates bootable USB disks and nothing else.15:08
dnivratruepurple, I think you should try gparted.15:08
KtodiKikonia: ok can u give me the command again because i forgot it and dissepeared in chat... was it sudo cmnd 777 ?15:08
IdleOneKtodiK: do alt-F2 and in the box type: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf15:08
coz_zxiest[a],  for any particular files/applications ?15:08
dnivra!info gparted | truepurple15:08
ubottutruepurple: gparted (source: gparted): GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-1ubuntu1.1 (maverick), package size 463 kB, installed size 1380 kB15:08
ikoniazxiest[a]: you set that up, it's different for everyone15:08
truepurpleThis will download and install at the same time15:08
edbianzxiest[a], You create a git repository manually wherever you want it...15:08
zxiest[a]I see...15:08
zxiest[a]edbian I created teh repository..15:08
truepurpleAnway it is already set up, I just need to decide partition info and get it working15:08
zxiest[a]But I'm failing to ssh write to "objects"15:08
edbianzxiest[a], Where did you create it?  That's where it is.  In a hidden .git folder15:09
truepurpleAnd of course disconnect online since I can't have two PCs connected to the internet at the same time15:09
edbiantruepurple, Then it's not really set up now is it? :P15:09
ikoniazxiest[a]: look at the permissions on tit then15:09
edbiantruepurple, You should have the Ubuntu machine connected to the Internet for the first update at least.15:09
edbiantruepurple, Get a router! :P15:09
zxiest[a]I get an error "insufficient permission for adding an object to repository database ./objects"15:09
ikoniazxiest[a]: change the permissions !15:09
zxiest[a]this would be inside .git ?15:09
ikoniazxiest[a]: no,15:09
ikonianumexa: it's the file system15:10
Xubuntunoobis there any other  java other than openJDK for powerPC15:10
edbianzxiest[a], I think so.  Is there some website involved you're trying to sync to/from?15:10
zxiest[a]ikonia i did chmod -R u+rw ./15:10
truepurplePretty set up, dnivra: the program you speak of allows one to download off the net and install at the same time?15:10
ikoniazxiest[a]: ok ?15:10
zxiest[a]edbian i'm trying to upload from local15:10
jaliI can't log into any remote machine, because ubuntu stopped asking for passwords. Anyone know how this can happen?15:10
edbiantruepurple, That's called a netinstall.  Most distros do that15:10
zxiest[a]using capistrano for rails15:11
edbianzxiest[a], so 'push'  maybe you don't have permissions on the website15:11
dnivratruepurple, i do not know if unetbootin can do install but download sure eys. not familiar with netinstall :)15:11
truepurpleSo whats so special about gparted over unetbootin?15:11
compdocjali, is it locked up? Frozen?15:11
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HyperShockXubuntunoob, yes, just open your synaptic and search for java, you'll see them.15:11
zxiest[a]edbian it did let me in but apparently my user "git" doesn't have access to write to the repository's objects15:11
zxiest[a]I don't understand what the "repository's objects" are15:11
edbiantruepurple, gparted is partitioning software.  unetbootin lets you boot OS iso from your hdd15:12
yeatstruepurple: they are very different programs15:12
zxiest[a]repository database objects *15:12
edbianzxiest[a], I have no idea.  This isn't really Ubuntu related anymore15:12
jalicompdoc: No, I an log in via ssh throuh my notebook, so the ssh server is ok. But from the other machine, ssh is not asking for the passphrase anymore, so any connection attempt is denied15:12
jaliI believe the problem is on the client15:12
edbiantruepurple, They do different things entirely15:12
truepurpleI can just do it after I install ubuntin too, right?15:12
zxiest[a]edbian no prob .. =)15:12
zxiest[a]thanks guys15:12
ikoniatruepurple: do what ?15:12
Xubuntunoobhow do i set up vnc on Xubuntu??15:12
truepurplePartition and such15:12
ikoniatruepurple: no15:13
ikoniatruepurple: you need to partition BEFORE you install15:13
imetallicais there a way to set up different languages for different users on Ubuntu?15:13
phaseshiftXubuntunoob: Are you looking to install a VNC client to view other systems, or a VNC server to share your own desktop?15:13
openbordyou know that, when sometimes nm-applet is not able to make 3g connections and you have to reboot? is there a way to fix it ? thank youu15:13
truepurpleikonia: Why is that?15:14
Xubuntunoobphaseshift:  i want to setup a vnc server so i can view my desktop over the internet15:14
edbiantruepurple, partitioning is part of the installer / install process.15:14
HyperShockhttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/share-your-ubuntu-desktop-using-remote-desktop.html15:14
yeatstruepurple: I haven't been following your problem completely, but it sounds like you've made this more complicated than it needs to be... why not just make an Ubuntu Live USB and run the installer?15:14
HyperShockor search for NXclient15:14
Xubuntunoobhypershock: thanks but i have xubuntu so that link wont work15:14
truepurpleyeats: Too big15:15
yeatstruepurple: what's too big?15:15
alsunaimetallica: in system->language support each user can choose his own language15:15
truepurpleyeats: Ubuntu live for this PCs hard drive15:15
imetallicathanks mate :)15:16
phaseshiftXubuntunoob: You might have better luck in #xubuntu for Xubuntu-related questions.15:16
phaseshiftXubuntunoob: I'm not familiar with that spin, personally.15:16
melissaveogeliWhat is your xfce question?15:16
CESSMASTERis there a page with a plain old http link15:16
CESSMASTERor i guess ftp15:16
yeatstruepurple: not sure I'm understanding... Ubuntu live is too big for the PC's hard drive, or for the USB drive?15:16
rmedernachI was wondering if someone could help me out. I'm trying to use the Gimp and when I go to file open image I lose functionality to move around with my mouse (keyboard) seems to work fine15:17
CESSMASTERso that I can download the iso in a program other than my browser15:17
truepurpleyeats: Too big for THIS pcs hard drive, this is to install on a completely different PC15:17
ikoniatruepurple: how big is your hard disk ?15:17
HyperShockCESSMASTER, heh, how hard have you looked?15:17
truepurpleThis one? Or the new one?15:17
ikoniatruepurple: the one you are going to install from15:18
yeatstruepurple: oh - I think I understand now - you don't have enough hard disk space to hold 700 MB?15:18
CESSMASTERHyperShock: i saw the big corporate javascript-laden page and got the impression that i wasn't meant to look hard at all15:18
Xubuntunoobphaseshift: oh ok15:19
truepurpleYeats: It needs to hold 700mb +700mb for temporary cache for downloading and unpacking15:19
ikoniatruepurple: how big is the drive you are installing FROM15:19
yeatstruepurple: can you use someone else's computer to do this?  nearly every computer that can run at all nowdays has that much disk space ;-)15:20
truepurpleThis PC has one drive that is 333mb big, the main drive, and about 800 on the other partition or drive15:20
yeatstruepurple: WOW15:20
truepurpleThis is someone elses PC15:20
ikoniatruepurple: does the machine you want to use have a CD drive ?15:20
* yeats suggests that you use yet another PC to do this15:20
truepurpleBoth PCs have CD drives, but THIS pc has no burning capacity15:21
truepurpleIf I had one, I would15:21
ikoniatruepurple: does the other PC have any OS on ?15:21
truepurpleNo, that is the point15:21
HyperShocktruepurple, if you doused either of them light fluid and set match to either one, would they have burning capabilities then?15:21
truepurpleIts just assembled parts I purchased, till I get a OS or two15:21
truepurplehyper, so funny, it isn't15:22
antantwith samba, can I allow different hosts differing access levels?15:22
taylorgibbwhoami15:22
truepurpleAnyway, that is the point of netinstall15:23
truepurpleSo back to the topic, why can't I make partitions AFTER installing ubuntu?15:23
antanttruepurple you can if you've left space for them15:23
czardozI think you can15:23
yeatstruepurple: this is probably what you need: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD15:23
phaseshiftantant: I think access levels are usually controlled based on user login, not IP address.  Do you have a specific reason to implement otherwise?15:23
truepurpleIncluding swap partition?15:24
alsunatruepurple why not create partitions during install?15:24
yeatstruepurple: it will take care of everything for you and downloads everything from the net15:24
BluesKajtruepurple, are you sure about the HDD being only 333mb ...sounds like you may be confusing the cpu speed with HDD capacity...I have to mention this.15:24
truepurpleYeats: I can not burn to CD!15:24
yeatstruepurple: what kind of install media do you have?15:25
truepurpleAlsuna: because this install is not letting me control extended and so forth, it seems15:25
antantphaseshift: well the build I'm running doesn't have different users and groups, and the filesystem is readonly (apart from data storage)15:25
truepurpleBlueskaj: I am sure15:25
archangelpetrocan you make a USB boot disk by doing the following command ' dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb ' ?15:25
et-0nlinehey when i start my ubuntu i get error f1515:25
phaseshiftantant: Which build is that, if you don't mind my asking?15:26
BluesKajtruepurple, ok, sounds like old HW , maybe you should consider something newer with more room ?15:26
yeats!usb | archangelpetro15:26
ubottuarchangelpetro: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent15:26
truepurpleblue, that is the point of what I am doing15:26
archangelpetroyeats: wasn't quite the answer i was looking for, yes or no would suffice :P15:27
yeatstruepurple: did you see my question?  what installation media do you have available15:27
yeats?15:27
antantphaseshift: openelec. It's basically a very lightweight install with xbmc as a front ent15:27
antantI boot in about 15 seconds from cold15:27
et-0nlinehey when i start my ubuntu i get error f1515:27
melissaveogeliAre you installing from Windows using a USB?15:27
melissaveogeliThere is an easy 123 installer for that.15:27
truepurpleyeats: I don't understand the question15:27
yeatsarchangelpetro: it's not a simple yes or no question - those pages provide some context for the answer15:28
archangelpetrook nevermind what i just said yeats i see your poitn now :d15:28
alsunaet-0nline: at which point during boot do you get that error? any more information than just the number?15:28
* drc boggles at the twists and turns truepurple's problem is taking...and wonders when the grues are going to turn up? :)15:28
yeatstruepurple: what method were you planning to use to install ubuntu to the other computer15:28
et-0nlinealsuna: when i start ubuntu15:28
alsunaet-0nline: before or after login?15:29
melissaveogeliWhoops looks like it was unix after all.15:29
yeatstruepurple: your options: CD, USB, floppy, PXE server15:29
truepurpleyeats: unetbootin net instal15:29
DASdsad!15:29
et-0nlinealsuna: when i start ubuntu  it does't boot it shows error f15 press any key to continue then i press any key nothing happens15:29
antantphaseshift: so is there any way to do it do you think?15:29
truepurpleyeats: from usb flash drive15:29
DASdsadhi15:29
stittelHi! With gdm-guest-session installed it is possible to switch to a guest session if an user is already logged in. How can it be achieved that this guest session is also available from the login screen, i.e. without the need of an user being already logged in? The system I have here is an Ubuntu 10.10. Thanks!15:29
DASdsadquestion:15:29
alsunaet-0nline: any chance it's grub error 15?15:29
DASdsadwhich ubuntu should use15:29
truepurpleyeats: not sure what PXE server is, just USB flash drive for transfering info15:29
phaseshiftantant: Looking through some Samba docs right now ... what are your Samba clients going to be?  Will they authenticate with unique usernames/passwords or act as guests only?15:29
yeatstruepurple: then download the minimal installer CD image and use unetbootin to put it on the USB15:29
stittelArgh, sorry, Ubuntu 10.04!15:30
et-0nlinealsuna yes i get this sincei i installed another distro15:30
alsunaet-0nline: ok, this explains the error:15:30
truepurpleyeats: Why? How is that better then netinstall?15:30
judgetsilly dumb question I thought I had a folder /usr/local/bin but noiw i onlyu seem to have /usr/bin15:30
yeatstruepurple: it *is* a net install ;-)15:30
et-0nlinealsuna i think i lost my grub15:30
truepurpleYeats: That is what I have been doing!15:30
axscodehow i maybe able to continue apt-get install if i got disconnected from the internet? i dont want to download again.15:31
antantphaseshift: all shares are set as public, browsable, writable and available15:31
kdlijianhello, everyone.15:31
truepurpleYeats: But I wanted some info to figure out setup, but I am getting more questions then are being answered for me.15:31
yeatstruepurple: you said that you can't download the ubuntu image - unetbootin is not an installer in itself15:31
phaseshiftantant: Okay, and you want to lock those down based on the IP address of the client that's connecting?15:31
antantphaseshift: I wanted to change that as I don't want everyone else on my network being able to have write access to my stuff. Just me.15:32
kdlijianI have found and added the PPA for GNOME at launchpad.net15:32
yeatstruepurple: unetbootin lets you put an installer image on a USB drive15:32
DASdsadwhich ubuntu should use15:32
truepurpleyeats: unetbootin put netinstall on the usb flash drive15:32
antantphaseshift: yeah, all pcs on my network have static ips15:32
kdlijianThen I 'sudo apt-get update', now I don't know what to do next to install GNOME3 to my ubuntu.15:32
DASdsadwhich ubuntu should use15:32
DASdsadwhich ubuntu should use15:33
et-0nlinei loost my grub since i installed another distro now what to do to get back grub15:33
yeatstruepurple: okay - sorry - I did not understand that (also not sure which "netinstall" it has as a default) :-/15:33
truepurpleyeats: SO, I can make the swap partition after installing, right?!15:33
akshith#bookz15:33
et-0nlinei did not installed windows i have bsd15:33
kdlijiansudo apt-get install ???, what should be filled in ??? to install gnome3?15:33
yeatstruepurple: the installer should have a partitioning step - if you select guided partitioning, it will create a swap partition for you15:34
phaseshiftantant: Okay, if you have access to edit the server's smb.conf you should be able to add "hosts allow = x.x.x.x" in the global section to control access.  See http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/smb.conf.5.html#HOSTSALLOW15:34
truepurpleyeats: Please answer my question15:34
kdlijianIs there a meta-package which can pull all dependencies in to install GNOME3?15:34
yeatstruepurple: I did, didn't I?15:35
phaseshiftantant: Does that make sense?  Perhaps OpenELEC handles things differently and a channel specific to that tool would have better advice.15:35
truepurpleNo15:35
BluesKajtruepurple, the swap partiton option is part of the install sequence , not after install15:35
yeatstruepurple: why do you want to skip that step when installing?15:35
alsuna et-0nline probably. i haven't had to repair my grub yet and i can't seem to find a decent english howto atm15:35
antantphaseshift: yeah, I found that too. It didn't explain how to allow different access levels based on it though15:35
cablopthe 1 million question15:35
cablopis a default umask of 002 or 006 or even 007 better than the default 022 umask?15:35
cablopany concern with them?15:35
truepurpleYeats: I am tired of explaining my reasons for everything, is it possible or not?15:35
yeatstruepurple: yes - it's possible - it's not easy and it's probably not for beginners15:35
DrMorphiascan someone help me? i installed ubuntu but it will not boot.  I think its because of my rocketraid...15:36
cablopwhat thing truepurple?15:36
HyperShocktruepurple, [now i'll be serious] on your own Ubuntu that you are using now, in System->administration there is a program called "startup disk creator", use it to set any usb stick to be a bonafide live ubuntu system. Then boot the offending pc with that stick, once it gets to the desktop, use the install ubuntu icon, from there wipe out all the partitions you don't want and then create the new partition layout.15:36
HyperShock then if you have also internet you can tell it to download add'l updates.15:36
phaseshiftantant: Are you looking to adjust access rights at the share level or for directories within a single share?15:36
judgetnvm i thiunk i must have removed it coz alkl it had was ffmpeg that i buiult15:37
phaseshiftThe latter case is handled by filesystem permissions/ownership, so I'd think you'd need to create local users to implement it.15:37
cablopwhat is your question truepurple ?15:37
gypsyjimhey hey hello15:37
truepurplehypershock: For starters, I don't have ubuntin on this PC15:37
antantphaseshift: at share level. I want my laptop to have full access, but all others only read access15:37
truepurplecablop: Can I put a swap partition on after installing unetbootin15:38
truepurpleI mean ubuntin, getting worn out here15:38
drctruepurple: you have your answer...yes, you can, its stupid but you can do it.  Now just go ahead and DO IT!15:39
kdlijianAnyone knows how to install GNOME3 in UBUNTU? PLZ.15:39
gypsyjimdoes anyone here use back | track15:39
phaseshiftantant: And there's no way to create a local user on the server that you can use to identify yourself when connecting from the laptop?15:40
ruan!backtrack15:40
ubottuThere are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition15:40
truepurpleIt is very complicated to do though?15:40
yeatstruepurple: it's ubunt*u* and here's the information you would probably need: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq15:40
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cabloptruepurple: afaik, what they do is to adapt a cd or DVD iso to an usb, that way it won't expect for the media to be writable, you must tweak the iso a lot, what do you want it for? to install a new ubuntu or to fix existing ubuntus?15:40
gypsyjimI have just installed for the first time and then somehow got the nvidia working but there is a problem I got it working syncronicaly with apt-get15:40
cabloptruepurple: in order to install ubuntu you wont need a swap in the usb stick, in order to fix computer you maybe need it, but it is not recommended15:41
coz_gypsyjim,  I no longer use backtrack ,, have you tried their irc channel?15:41
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oCeangypsyjim: no backtrack support here15:41
gypsyjimwhat is there irc channel?15:41
oCeangypsyjim: #backtrack-linux15:41
gypsyjimok thanks15:42
HyperShockgypsyjim, what did you install for the first time?15:42
hawk_hello15:42
coz_hawk_,  hey guy15:42
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Guest17973how is it?15:42
Guest17973coz whats up15:43
gypsyjimthe channel says that I am banned15:43
coz_gypsyjim,   is your name registered?15:43
oCeanGuest17973: do you have a support question? chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic15:43
Guest17973what is this chat in a brief description15:44
truepurpleSo how complicated is it to create a swap partition after the fact?15:44
oCeantruepurple: as long as you have space somewhere on your disk, you can create a partition15:44
oCeantruepurple: as soon as you have a partitioin, you can set it to swap partition15:44
coz_Guest17973,  well here we do support for ubuntu ,, and the rules about that are very strict ,, any other conversations would take place in either another support channel or #ubuntu-offtopic :)15:44
HyperShocktruepurple, its not really, if you use gparted and resize a partition that you aren't using and set the remaining freed space to swap. then you got it.15:44
oCeantruepurple: but, you can also very easily use swap files instead of partition15:45
Guest17973gotcha thank you15:45
gypsyjimhow do i register15:45
coz_no problem15:45
Guest17973good day15:45
oCean!register > gypsyjim15:45
ubottugypsyjim, please see my private message15:45
phaseshiftantant: If not, perhaps one way to handle this would be to create two Samba shares exporting the same directory.  One would be read-only and have no restrictions on host access, and the second would be writable but include a "host allow" granting access to your laptop only.15:45
kdlijiananyone knows how to install GNOME3 please?15:45
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coz_kdlijian,  ah again ? :)  I have no idea,, let me check15:45
truepurpleoCean15:45
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oCeantruepurple: what's up15:46
BluesKajtruepurple, don't think a linux install will be successful on such small hdds , so I don't see the point of you pursuing this any further.15:46
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truepurpleoCean: I was told it was more complicated, and that there was a slight performance hit15:46
gypsyjimapt-get install gnome15:46
truepurpleblueskaj 2tb is more then enough space15:46
coz_kdlijian,     http://joneslee85.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/howto-install-gnome-shell-on-ubuntu-maverick-10-10/15:46
BluesKajyou mentioned 333mb15:46
Guest17973anyone have audacity fixes for various versions of ubuntu?15:46
oCeantruepurple: when, during install process, you create partitions, normally one would create a swap partition at that point. If you do not want to, or for whatever reason, you CAN create swap space after the install15:47
truepurpleThat is on my current PC, my new PC I am trying to install on has 2tb15:47
BluesKajtruepurple, then you probly have more than 4gigs of ram, swap is probly not needed in that case15:48
oCeanBluesKaj: well, that all depends on the usage of the system15:48
* drc thinks this is where he came in (again) and decides to come back later when truepurple has either solved his problem or gone away in disgust :(15:48
kdlijiancoz_: Thanks for the link, but I can't access it here in my place.15:48
fedora_newbThe action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.15:48
fedora_newbwhats required for that?15:49
BluesKajoCean, everything depends on the usage of the system...I'm referring to "normal" usage15:49
truepurple8gb, but there is still hybernation15:49
kdlijianI have found and added the PPA, then does 'gnome-shell' mean gnome3?15:49
plexsurfhi is there a equivalent of notepad++ on ubuntu?15:49
coz_kdlijian,  hold on15:49
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coz_kdlijian,   did you try   sudo apt-get install gnome-shell15:50
kdlijiancoz_: No. I just hang on not knowing what to be installed for all GNOME3 packages.15:50
oCeankdlijian: you do realise that installing from PPA's does void your warranty? Well at least your support here15:51
melissaveogeliWhat is /pool for ?15:51
melissaveogeliFor ubuntu installations15:51
phaseshiftplexsurf: The standard gEdit included with GNOME might suit your purposes.  Otherwise you can look at http://alternativeto.net/software/notepad-plus-plus/ for ideas.15:51
plexsurfok thanks!15:52
kdlijianThanks.15:53
coz_kdlijian,  well gnome-shell is essentially gnome3  ,, if you want test it   ,, personally I would google and youtube  gnome shell  aka gnome315:53
plexsurfi also found scite - the original version of notepad++!15:53
plexsurfhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52658615:54
kdlijiancoz_: I have tried gnome3 by the OPENSUSE live CD. I know it.15:54
kdlijiancoz_: Thanks for your attention.15:55
zacktui just did a manual dual boot install of maverick -- it's different than others i've done because the installer suggests where to put the boot manager -- i let the installer do things its way, and now i have two links to windows 7 in the boot menu: 1) from sda1, the original boot partition, and 2) from sda2, the original windows partition -- both links work -- i'm just curious to know what's...15:55
zacktu...going on in each partition15:55
BluesKajpoor gnome 3 ...looks more cartooney than ever ...wonder when Homer Simpson becomes the mascot :)15:56
bartek#5on5.et15:56
ZenT510zacktu: not sure what you mean, are you looking for info on partitioning?15:57
rayleehelllo i need help15:58
rayleeon my ubuntu15:58
ranjanraylee, just start asking15:58
rayleeyea i been having alot of flash problems15:58
rayleeon my ubuntu distro15:58
ranjanraylee,  just start giving your problem15:58
rayleelike when i watch yt vids it would cash15:58
cgcardonahow can i locate my apache httpd.conf file?15:59
soreaucgcardona: locate httpd.conf15:59
Cheerywhat's the clipboard system ubuntu is using15:59
Cheery?15:59
zacktuZenT510: i have always done all partitioning for ubuntu  prior to installation -- no problem there -- but in the past i've created a /boot partition and used it --- the installer for 10.10 was different because it suggested which partition should be the boot partition15:59
mp__cgcardona: it's usually in /etc/apache2/15:59
cgcardonai'm getting locate: command not found15:59
cgcardonamp__: that httpd.conf file in that directory is blank15:59
soreaucgcardona: Really? Which version of ubuntu?16:00
cgcardonai am looking for the one that will let me uncomment mod_rewrite16:00
oCeancgcardona: it is the apache2.conf16:00
cgcardonahow do i figure out which version -  i think its 10.1016:00
et-0nlinehello when i start my ubuntu it shows just grub> what to do here16:00
cgcardonaoCean: so it is - thanks :)16:00
cgcardonahmmm should I see this line in apache2.conf? #LoadModule rewrite_module modules/mod_rewrite.so16:01
phaseshiftet-0nline: A grub> prompt would indicate a failure with the bootloader that does the first stage of booting up ... was there any other error provided on your screen beforehand?16:02
oCeancgcardona: i'd say a "sudo a2enmod rewrite" would do the trick16:02
eirikbHello. Is there a Debian sid equivalent for Ubuntu?16:03
ikoniaeirikb: no16:03
et-0nlinephaseshift: yes before i had error f15 then i used this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub now i just see grub> when i start my computer16:03
cipherboyeirikb: what do you mean? there is an alpha version available to test16:03
eirikbikonia: Ok. I'm basically looking for rolling releases16:03
cipherboyeirikb: ubuntu 11.04 is in development, you might want to try that.16:04
TTY_problemhello. i have a big problem: I cannot login via TTY because my password uses "!" character and when I try to type it writes [31~ !16:04
phaseshiftet-0nline: Okay, let me just read through that.16:04
ZenT510zacktu: i've always partitioned with the installer (essentially gparted) and made only a / partition, never tried a suggested install, i've always done custom disk partitioning16:04
soreauTTY_problem: Try the other shift button?16:04
eirikbcipherboy: But when it's released, then it will go stable right? I guess that is not similar to running sid?16:04
TTY_problemsoreau: I did, same thing16:04
soreauTTY_problem: That sounds like a problem. Maybe you will have to file a bug16:05
TTY_problemOK the problem is not the shight or alt16:05
TTY_problemshift16:05
TTY_problemthe problem is the number "1!16:05
TTY_problemthe problem is the number "1"16:05
cipherboyeirikb: yes, it will go to stable, but shortly there after the next version 11.10 will start development.16:05
eirikbcipherboy: But I would have to dist upgrade then, right?16:05
yeatsTTY_problem: were you able to run a live CD to test your keyboard?16:05
phaseshiftet-0nline: Which method from that page did you follow?  There are several options.16:05
cipherboyeirikb: yes, or you could transition your /etc/apt/sources.list over to the next version.16:06
et-0nlinehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub16:06
eirikbcipherboy: What do you mean?16:06
et-0nlinei wanted to get back my grub16:06
et-0nlinesudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444 /dev/sda16:07
et-0nlinenow i see just grub>16:07
yeatseirikb: he mean that you can just upgrade to the next development version after the current one is released16:07
TTY_problemyeats: it's ubuntu server16:07
TTY_problemsoreau: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=keSY0y1j16:07
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eirikbyeats: I thought to do that I would have to change my sources.list and do a dist-upgrade16:07
cipherboyeirikb: yes and no. you can modify the sources.list and then do a regular update.16:08
n8w1nghey16:08
cipherboyeirikb: and upgrade.16:08
yeatsTTY_problem: ok - well I would probably rule out the hardware problem by running a live CD before concluding that this is an ubuntu bug16:08
eirikbcipherboy: Oh.. hmm. In debian I always dist-upgrade when I change the version name16:08
n8w1nghow can i increase the number of scrollable lines in bash?16:08
yeatseirikb: or 'sudo update-manager -d'16:08
itaylor57eirikb: ubuntu does not follow the rolling release philosophy16:08
phaseshiftet-0nline: Okay, did you get any errors from the grub-install?16:09
rayleedoes anyone have flash problems on ubuntu16:09
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et-0nlineNO16:09
cipherboyn8w1ng: right click in the term window and change the default profile16:09
eirikbitaylor57: Neither does Debian right? But if I run sid I would get close to that philosophy16:09
BluesKajeirikb, upgrade the OS version , desktop or ??16:09
cipherboyn8w1ng: look at the scrolling tab.16:09
itaylor57eirikb: you will be closer to broke mostly16:09
n8w1ngcipherboy:  hmm on a server...no gui avaiable;)16:09
zacktuZenT510: in the past i've had 4 partitions: /, /boot, /home, and swap -- and specified all four while doing a manual install -- the installer for 10.10 wanted to tell me where to put the boot manager -- the suggested location was sda1, which is the boot partition for windows -- what i'm curious about is that i now have two links in the boot menu -- one link to the boot partition and one to...16:09
zacktu...the windows partition - i don't want to change anything unless something's broken16:09
phaseshiftet-0nline: Which Ubuntu release are we talking about here?  10.10?16:09
et-0nlineyes16:10
eirikbitaylor57: I have servers running both sid and squeeze and sid seems to work well for me16:10
cipherboyn8w1ng: use the less command: long-command | less16:10
eirikbitaylor57: But I see your point16:10
n8w1ngcipherboy:  i mean should b able to hardcode it somewhere...what i can do in gui i should b able to do by editin certain files rite?16:10
ZenT510zacktu: you said they both work fine though, so i don't know why you want to change them?16:11
cbkiawhen I on my laptop,instead of the grub list,I see the grub> command prompt.. Any ideas to login into windows16:11
cipherboyn8w1ng: if you are sshing in from a different ubuntu system, my method will work.16:11
et-0nlinecbkia i have allso same problem with grub16:11
Aikaranyone recommend an alternative to Liferea for RSS reading and desktop notifications? I hate how liferea hits disk so hard and lags out every time its updating feeds/marking read :/16:11
soreaucbkia: When did this start happening?16:11
eirikbcbkia: I guess your grub stage 1 can't find stage 2. You need to reinstall grub and make stage 1 in MBR point to correct stage 216:11
cipherboyn8w1ng: and do you mean command history, or what has been the output?16:11
soreau! grub2 | et-0nline cbkia16:12
ubottuet-0nline cbkia: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub216:12
zacktuZenT510: my original post was to ask why this had happened and whether it is expected16:12
n8w1ngcipherboy:  the output...i wanna b able to scroll back up more lines16:12
eirikbcbkia: If you have a live cd that has grub (like arch has) you could select boot existing OS, hit TAB and change to where you know your windows boot is at16:12
riptlySo, I added myself to group www-data, and the directory is created by www-data, but I still can't do anything within that directory without using sudo command? Any hints on what I'm doing wrong?16:12
et-0nlineyes i followed those steps and i get this grub>16:12
et-0nlinei followed that tutorial ubuntu16:13
et-0nlinegrub16:13
cbkiaeirikb, soreau : i will follow it16:13
ZenT510zacktu: grub2 is usually installed on the mbr, and resides in the /boot partition (or if you didn't specify seperate /boot it will be under /)16:13
zacktuZenT510: thanks16:13
ZenT510zacktu: np, sorry i'm a little slow to understand today16:14
cipherboyn8w1ng: you are connecting to your server from an ubuntu system, right?16:14
cipherboyn8w1ng: bash saves all your lines, your terminal (gnome-terminal by default) doesn't.16:14
n8w1ngcipherboy: ohh man,sry for bein stupid...ye i got it now16:14
n8w1ngcipherboy:  thx;)16:15
intradermy top grub selection boots to a text terminal and offers login. When I login, it does to the a text terminal with my home directory. `sudo startx` fails back to text terminal with login16:15
cipherboyn8w1ng: any time.16:15
phaseshiftet-0nline: I guess I'm not familiar with the new grub2 stuff ... anyone else have experience here?16:15
cipherboyet-0nline: whats the prob? update-grub2 might help16:16
imetallicawill Ubuntu 11.04 incorporate GNOME 3?16:16
et-0nlineiam in here grub>_16:16
et-0nlinewhat to type in here updated-grub216:16
cipherboyet-0nline: can you boot from live cd and mount your hard drive?16:16
ZenT510imetallica: no, it uses unity, and you can ask about it in #ubuntu+116:17
intraderplease help with to make it boot properly16:17
et-0nlinecipherboy no now i can not even start my cdrom drive it shows grub>16:17
cipherboyet-0nline: then you can chroot into it, run update-grub2, reboot, and run update-grub2 again (both times as root or with sudo).16:17
yeatsintrader: what model graphics card do you have?16:17
imetallicaummm right I was wondering 'cos probably GNOME 3 is more fat then 2 :)16:18
cipherboyet-0nline: just hold the power button until it dies and then start it up again.16:18
ymasoryis it possible to give all users (including non-sudoers) permission to run a certain script as root?16:18
cipherboyymasory: yes, look at editing the sudoers file.16:18
Aikarymasory: or set that script itself to run suid16:18
riptlyI have a directory which I did "chown -R www-data:www-data www" on, even still I can't create/modify within the directory without using the sudo command, can anyone explain why?16:18
ymasoryokay i'll take a look, thanks cipherboy, Aikar16:19
Aikarymasory: chmod 4755 /bin/script16:19
Flannelriptly: Are you in the www-data group?16:19
riptlyI also added myself to www-data group using the usermod command.16:19
et-0nlinecipherboy now i am running live cd16:19
kushaloneHi, I am on an asus n61j series that has a nvidia geforce gt325m graphics card. I was wondering if there has been any progress with the drivers. The last time I tried, it locked up my system16:19
yeatsriptly: because you are not the www-data user?16:19
riptlyFlannel: I added myself to it, yes.16:19
yanleb0334hey how do i transfer my files from windows to ubuntu from the C drive?16:19
cipherboyet-0nline: okay, open up a terminal (applications -> accessories -> terminal) and type: sudo fdisk -l16:19
riptlyFlannel: Do I need to flush the privileges somehow perhaps?16:20
yeatsriptly: reading back now - see that you've thought of that ;-)16:20
et-0nlinecipherboy hold on its loading16:20
intraderyeats, where do I look. I am able to but the previous kernel to full guy. I am executing there. I just can't boot the top grub selection16:20
Flannelriptly: Have you logged back in on that terminal since then? (if you type 'groups' do you see www-data?)16:20
ymasoryAikar: so i did the chmod, and it changed something, but the script still returns the regular username (not root) as the current user16:20
riptlyyeats: Okey, so I need to be the user, otherwise I'll have to use the sudo command within that directory?16:20
Flannelriptly: Also, Do those folders (particularly www/) have +w set for group? or just user?16:20
Flannelriptly: No, not at all.16:20
Aikarymasory: its still running with root perms16:21
yanleb0334hey how do i transfer windows files to ubuntu with the C drive?16:21
cipherboyet-0nline: actually, once you get it loaded, run: `sudo apt-get install pastebinit`16:21
yeatsintrader: open the terminal and type 'lspci | grep VGA' - you should see your card's model16:21
yanleb0334hey how do i transfer windows files to ubuntu with the C drive16:21
riptlyFlannel: drwxr-xr-x is set, and I haven't relogged my ssh connection, will do now.16:21
bonjoyeeyanleb0334: copy paste?16:22
cipherboyet-0nline: and once that gets done, you can run `sudo fdisk -l 2>&1 | pastebinit` and paste the address.16:22
Flannelriptly: Right, so rwx (user) r-x (group) r-x (everyone), you need it to have write permissions for group as well.16:22
ZenT510yanleb0334: mount the windows drive and look for your files16:22
yanleb0334where16:22
coz_yanleb0334,  yeah under the Places menu  you should see your c drive listed16:22
et-0nlinecipher i dont think i have internetconnection with live cd16:22
yanleb0334where is the places menu16:22
yeatsyanleb0334: you're in windows now?16:22
coz_yanleb0334,  click that,, open it then simply copy paste,,, drag and drop16:22
coz_yanleb0334,  at the top left of the monitor16:23
intraderyeats, '01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 Go] (rev b2)'16:23
riptlyFlannel: Okey, I reconnected my ssh connection and groups now show both my user and www-data as expected (it didn't before). To change that privileges for group I chmod, correct?16:23
cipherboyet-0nline: okay, then post the output of: `fdisk -l 2>&1 | grep -i 'linux'`16:23
ymasoryAikar: does the fact that it's a python script have something to do with the fact that it's not working?16:23
coz_yanleb0334,   Applications  Places   System16:23
cipherboyet-0nline: first type sudo su though16:23
Flannelriptly: Right, chmod g+w16:23
coz_yanleb0334,  of course that is dependent on your DE = desktop environment ,  being gnome16:23
yeats!nvidia | intrader: see if this link helps16:23
ubottuintrader: see if this link helps: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto16:23
et-0nlinecipherboy please one step at time, my ubuntu live cd try ubuntu its loading loading loading and nothing happens16:23
yanleb0334what do you mean16:24
riptlyFlannel: the g is to specify to only add write (+w) privilege to group, am I understanding that correctly?16:24
leftistan associate was attempting to install an app and now when he reboots his pw isnt accepted at login. is there somewhere i can point him to resolve his dilema?16:24
BluesKaj!alternate | et-0nline16:24
ubottuet-0nline: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal16:24
coz_yanleb0334,   at the top left of your monitor... do you see  Applications  Places  System16:24
yeatsyanleb0334: are you using Ubuntu or Windows right now?16:24
yanleb0334coz_, no i do not.... im in ubuntu16:24
cipherboyet-0nline: so you do not have gnome yet?16:25
coz_yanleb0334,  take a screenshot.... hit printscreen... and upload that image to  picpaste.com16:25
coz_yanleb0334,  then give us the link to that uploaded image16:25
yanleb0334kk16:25
et-0nlinecipherboy i restarted my computer again it was hanging with out reason16:25
intraderyeats, why are we looking at driver, when the problem is about booting the top selection that grub offers. Previous kernel boots Ok into GUI16:25
cipherboyet-0nline: any text?16:26
cipherboyet-0nline: you are much more likely to get help on the ubuntu forums for this type of stuff.16:26
et-0nlinecipherboy i just restarted my computer dunno whats going on now it goes back to grub>16:26
leftistan associate was attempting to install an app and now when he reboots his pw isnt accepted at login. is there somewhere i can point him to resolve his dilema?16:26
cipherboyet-0nline: restart again, and make sure you have it set to boot from cd.16:26
yanleb0334http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-QZlb4atg.png16:27
cipherboyet-0nline: you shouldn't get grub> again.16:27
et-0nlinecipherboy somehow even when i  bootfrom cd it goes to grub>16:27
leftistwhat can you do if your password isnt accepted at login?16:28
et-0nlinenow  restarted again it started ubuntu16:28
ZenT510yanleb0334: you are using netbook version?16:28
coz_leftist,  look here   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword16:28
yanleb0334i guess so16:28
yanleb0334what is the difference16:28
leftistthanks coz_16:28
cipherboyet-0nline: the live cd or your install? what hardware do you have?16:28
et-0nlinecipherboy the live cd install ubuntu try ubuntu i use try ubuntu16:29
coz_leftist,  no problem16:29
cipherboyet-0nline: try ubuntu16:29
coz_yanleb0334,  ah  netbook16:29
cipherboyet-0nline: now what happens? does it hang?16:29
yanleb0334what are you using16:29
et-0nlinecipherboy its loading ....16:30
ZenT510!unr | yanleb033416:30
ubottuyanleb0334: Ubuntu Netbook Edition is a slightly altered version of Ubuntu, optimised for small screens. For more information, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR - support in #ubuntu16:30
et-0nlinedunno why it goes so slowly i have pentium IV16:30
coz_yanleb0334,  well first let me say ,, when talking to someone  type the first 2 or 3  letters of their name and hit the Tab key to complete it,, type you message,, they will alerted on their end16:30
yeatsintrader: sorry - good point - didn't mean to lead you on a wild goose chase...  can you boot into recovery mode and reconfigure X?16:30
cipherboyet-0nline: cds boot slowly. be patient. what version of ubuntu do you have on your hard drive?16:30
et-0nline10 the latest16:31
coz_yanleb0334,  I use gnome...and netbook is also based on that so hold on let me go to my netbook and check the easy way to get to your windows drive16:31
cipherboyet-0nline: k.16:31
yeatsintrader: that is, recovery mode for the latest kernel16:31
yanleb0334coz_, thx...16:31
intraderyeats, recovery mode it is, I will try. How do I see this list in another laptop running windows?16:32
et-0nlinecipherboy voila now i see gnome16:32
yeatsintrader: list?16:32
yanleb0334coz_, can you save a screen print of your screen so i can see what gnome looks like so i could maybe consider getting it?16:32
cipherboyet-0nline: now open up the terminal (applications -> accessories -> terminal)16:32
cipherboyet-0nline: and check if you have internet.16:33
et-0nlineyes16:33
et-0nlineno internet16:33
melkorIs anybody here having difficulty with flash 64bit? It seems to run way too fast.16:33
intraderyeats, this Xchat session in IRC (I called it list)16:33
cipherboyet-0nline: do you have a wired or wireless connection regularly?16:34
taglete32bit in my computer16:34
bonjoyeemelkor: what version of flash?16:34
coz_yanleb0334,    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/Screenshot.png16:34
yeatsintrader: if you have Firefox, I recommend Chatzilla https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chatzilla/16:34
yanleb0334coz_, thx16:34
melkorbonjoyee: square player built on November 10 2010.16:34
coz_yanleb0334,  when you click the ubuntu logo at the top left,, does a search window open  or application window?16:35
et-0nlinecipherboy wirless connection16:35
melkorbonjoyee: Its odd because the flashplayer hasn't changed since this problem started.16:35
yanleb0334coz_, i think its an application window16:35
cipherboyet-0nline: can you connect to wireless? it would be best to have pastebinit16:36
coz_yanleb0334,  ok hold on16:36
bonjoyeemelkor: i use the same...but don't seem to have any issues yet..16:36
yanleb0334coz_, kk16:36
melkorbonjoyee: what video drivers are you using?16:36
Eagle_IHello, can I have a little help?16:37
et-0nlinecipherboy done i have inteernet connection established16:37
bonjoyeemelkor: radeon (linux default )16:37
cipherboyet-0nline: now open up the terminal and type `sudo su`16:37
coz_yanleb0334,  do you know which version of ubuntu you are on?16:37
et-0nlinedone16:37
yanleb0334coz_, 10.1016:37
Eagle_II need to export a website from the TwistedWeb server.16:37
cbkiaHi, I tried sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444 /dev/sda --force ... But I cant still restore my grub.. It still arrives on the grub prompt16:37
cipherboyet-0nline: then run: `apt-get install pastebinit`16:37
coz_yanleb0334,   ok hold on16:37
cipherboyet-0nline: and then: `fdisk -l 2>&1 | pastebinit`16:38
et-0nlineunable to locate packege pastebinit16:38
Eagle_IAnd put it in an archive. (tar, tar.gz, et cetera)16:38
melkorbonjoyee: yeah that is what I am using, but from a repo, it could be my kernel, thanks for the info.16:38
cipherboyet-0nline: then run: `apt-get update ; apt-get install pastebinit` but you might need to enable the multiverse and universe repos.16:38
bonjoyeemelkor: good luck..16:38
cbkiaHi, I tried sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444  /dev/sda --force ... But I cant still restore my grub.. It still arrives on the grub prompt16:38
et-0nlinedo i need to type those '16:39
et-0nline'apt get16:39
et-0nlineor just apt-get16:39
Psydollsudo apt-get install program16:39
* Eagle_I needs a bit of help with the TwistedWeb server....16:39
cipherboyet-0nline: no '16:39
bonjoyeecbkia: trying to restore grub from a live cd?16:39
cbkiabonjoyee: how do i restore grub...16:40
Flannelriptly: Right16:40
bonjoyeecbkia: what are you trying to do?16:40
barberangrub2?16:40
et-0nlinecipherboy apt get update done16:40
coz_yanleb0334,  ok this is going to be a bit  of a long way around t his since I am not super efficient with netbook ,  however  open a terminal and type   gnome-keybinding-properties16:40
yanleb0334coz_, terminal???16:40
cbkiabonjoyee: i just wanna log into my windows partition16:40
et-0nlineapt-get install pastebinit unable to locate package pastebinit16:40
cipherboyet-0nline: enable multiverse and universe repos.16:41
et-0nlinehow i do that16:41
riptlyFlannl: Thank you! So quickly, if I wanted to add to more, I could say chmod ga+w dir/ that would add it group and all? (which I wont, but in practice I could)16:41
coz_yanleb0334, hold on16:41
cipherboyet-0nline: in synaptic\16:41
drcEagle_I: Try #twisted or #twistedweb16:41
bonjoyeecbkia: can you boot into ubuntu?16:41
Dazzled1Is there a way to uniquely identify a machine without being root/using sudo?16:41
Eagle_I@cbkia If you are on ubuntu desktop (wubi) go to /host.16:41
intraderyeats, I don't know how to start it there - it is installed.16:41
Eagle_Ithanks drc16:41
Dazzled1I mean, reading the HDD serial number or something16:41
yeatsintrader: chatzilla?16:41
cbkiacbkia: booting into ubuntu is another thing.. My installation failed.16:41
erUSULDazzled1: identify? you mean get the hostname¿16:41
cipherboyet-0nline: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enable-the-universe-and-multiverse-repositories-in-ubuntu-804-hardy.html16:42
judyHow do I fire up thunderbird while someone else is logged into the GUI?16:42
bonjoyeecbkia: at what point?16:42
coz_yanleb0334,  well click that ubuntu logo at the top left ,, when the applications open look for gnome terminal16:42
cipherboyet-0nline: a bit out dated, but still applies.16:42
Dazzled1erUSUL: no, I want to be able to check if certain software is running on the right clients16:42
cbkiabonjoyee: while installing , it said there was some problem with my HD16:42
yeatsintrader: Tools -> Chatzilla16:42
yanleb0334coz_, ok can you repeat what you want me to write please16:43
Dazzled1someone told me a hard disk and certain other parts have ID's that you can read out16:43
coz_YankDownUnder,   gnome-keybinding-properties16:43
coz_YankDownUnder,  sorry16:43
erUSULDazzled1: try to run it if it fails it is not installed?16:43
et-0nlinecipherboy software sources is that synpactic package maanager16:43
coz_yanleb0334,    gnome-keybinding-properties16:43
bonjoyeecbkia: so now when you boot up what happens? (installing grub won't help your case if ubuntu install has failed)16:43
stjohnmedranosorry but i have to ask you this, does anyone here know a link of different image of official ubuntu cd release?16:43
coz_yanleb0334,  tell me when that opens16:43
JulienChello16:43
cipherboyet-0nline: not really, but did you follow the instructions I sent?16:43
intraderyeats, sorry, crazy, no tools menu on firefox 4.016:44
cbkiabonjoyee: i am just stuck up into the grub> prompt16:44
grawgrawtest16:44
et-0nlinecipherboy yes i can not find software sources16:44
yanleb0334coz_, its open16:44
cipherboyet-0nline: if so, then run (in the terminal): `apt-get update ; apt-get install pastebinit` without the16:44
coz_yanleb0334,  ok scroll down that list and look for  "Search"16:44
cipherboyet-0nline: Then follow the second set of instructions (farther down) on how to do it with synaptic.16:44
coz_yanleb0334,  tell me the default keyboard shortcut for that16:44
TTY_problemchanged the keyboard and now it works!16:44
yeatsintrader: Firefox button -> Tools16:45
vanillaslicehello16:45
bonjoyeecbkia: you have 2 options: try an ubuntu install again or repair the windows mbr..16:45
yanleb0334xf86search16:45
yanleb0334coz_,  xf86search16:45
intraderyeats, got it, I will  go there now16:45
cbkiabonjoyee: how to repair the windows mbr.. any lins16:45
et-0nlineunable to locate package pastebinit16:45
yeatsintrader: cool - I'm stepping away, but keep asking your questions to the channel16:45
bonjoyeecbkia: what version of windows?16:45
mkanyicyhi vanillaslice16:45
cbkiabonjoyee: vista16:45
cipherboyet-0nline: did you follow the instructions on how to add the multiverse and universe repositories in synaptic?16:46
grawgrawcan anyone help me understand something about apache proxies?  i want to forward requests for a certain url to port 8080... so I'm using "ProxyPass" and "ProxyPassReverse".  This works for local network machines, but requests from external IPs will time out :(16:46
coz_yanleb0334,  mm  where you see the xf86search  click that to change the keybinding to something easier like   alt home button so when you click that  hit the alt and home buttons on the keyboard16:46
wowotousd16:46
bonjoyeecbkia: try ##windows16:46
coz_yanleb0334,  you can use another keybinding other than that but its likely that one is not used on the system16:46
taglete:/list16:46
Psydollhow different is ubuntu from back track?16:46
taglete:/LIST16:46
et-0nlinecipherboy that tutorial is for 8 ubuntu i am on ubuntu 1016:46
et-0nlineit does not help16:46
yanleb0334coz_,  ok i changed it16:46
cbkiabonjoyee: Isnt it possible from re-installing grub16:47
coz_yanleb0334,  ok close that window  and then hit the same keybinding you changed it to16:47
cipherboyet-0nline: yes it does, if you follow the 2nd set of instructions. they work on all versions just about (if you follow the instructions on how to add them from synaptic).16:47
yanleb0334coz_,  ok it opened it16:47
coz_yanleb0334,  when you do that another window opens ...yes?16:47
yanleb0334coz_, yes16:47
coz_yanleb0334,  ok and the window has  Name contains:  and below that "Look in folder"  ...yes?16:47
bonjoyeecbkia: no...becoz even if you install grub to the mbr...you need a grub2 install under /boot for it to work...16:47
yanleb0334coz_,  yup16:48
cipherboyanyone know how to add multiverse and universe repositories from the command line?16:48
bonjoyeecbkia: which you won't have without linux/ubuntu install...16:48
coz_yanleb0334,   ok the "Look in folder"  has a pulldown menu,, see if your C drive is listed there16:48
et-0nlinecipherboy i do search mltivers on synaptic no package is selected16:48
yanleb0334coz_, is it named as file system16:48
mkanyicyet-0nline, i think cipherboy says enable universe and multiverse repositories first16:49
cipherboyet-0nline: dont search click on settings and then repositories.16:49
intrader_yeats, I am on chatzilla on windows - do you hear me there?16:49
mkanyicyet-0nline, have you done that16:49
cbkiabonjoyee: kk, roger tt... i will try installing ubuntu one more time16:49
coz_yanleb0334,  ok type something you know is on that drive  and hit "Find" at the bottom...when the list of files is shown simply right click one of them   and choose open folder   ,, nautilus will open and you will be able to maneuver anywhere on that drive16:49
et-0nlinecipherboy yes now i am followin what you are saying16:49
coz_yanleb0334,   then simply right click the file you want to transfer and copy paste it16:49
et-0nlinecipherboy pastebinit installed16:50
drcintrader: yeats said he stepped away for a while...he said continue asking questions in channel16:50
intrader_drc, do you see me here16:50
cipherboyet-0nline: k, now run this from the terminal: `sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit` without quotes and post the link16:50
yanleb0334coz_,  how do i find the music..should it be in there as well, i use itunes16:51
drcyeats: nope, can't see you :)...yes you are visable16:51
coz_yanleb0334,  if nautilus opened you should be able to go anywhere on the C drive to look for itunes ,,, look in My Documents16:51
et-0nlinecipherboy:http://pastebin.com/d587ChU616:51
ileai have a whierles network close to where i live and linux dosnt see it when i click on internet conections to choose and conect can someone tell me why it dosnt work?16:51
ileanow i am conected with my phone16:52
ikoniailea: probably because your card is not supported in linux out of the box16:52
bonjoyeeilea: does it "see" other wireless networks?16:52
cipherboyet-0nline: do you have two linux installs? if so, which is ubuntu 10?16:52
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ileano16:52
coz_yanleb0334,  to be honest,, I am not a big fan of netbook ,, not even slightly ..so there may well be a much easier way of doing this16:52
et-0nlinecipherboy yes i have ubuntu i installed first then i installed debian16:53
yanleb0334coz_,  is gnome a free software16:53
ileaand aat a neighbour it works16:53
drcintrader: nope, can't see you :)...yes you are visable16:53
ileahe haves wi-fi16:53
mkanyicyet-0nline, what are you trying to achieve?16:53
mycosysis there some way to make karmic wait for fsck to complete on startup BEFORE deciding not to mount a drive and continue on?16:53
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ikoniayanleb0334: yes16:53
bonjoyeeilea: on your computer?16:53
cipherboyet-0nline: then run: `mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /mnt` if it is ext4 partitioned, else modify the ext4 for the correct type.16:53
et-0nlinemkanyicy i loost my grub16:53
yanleb0334coz_, do you find it much better than the one i am currently running16:53
intraderdrc, now chatzilla is telling me 'This nixkname is registered. Please choose a...16:53
coz_yanleb0334,  of course    gnome is free  :)16:54
Luchewhois16:54
ileahe haves wi-fi on his laptop he can conect to wi-fi and for me linux dosnt see it16:54
douglaslhow can I make my ubuntu notebook sound come out of my ubuntu desktop thru my network?16:54
yanleb0334coz_, ok how do i uninstall the current os16:54
cipherboyet-0nline: actually, run this: `umount /mnt ; fsck /dev/sda1`16:54
cipherboyet-0nline: it might just be that your disk is corrupt.16:54
coz_yanleb0334,  if you want to try it  either open a terminal and type   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  or   sudo synaptic  and search for ubuntu-desktop in there16:54
ikoniadouglasl: network sound is never good16:54
mkanyicycipherboy, et-0nline the '-t' option is not needed anymore, mount autodetects filesystem type16:54
drcintrader: you've registered your nick?16:54
douglaslikonia, oh?\16:54
mycosyscompleted an upgrade to karmic, got the shock of my life when i found one of my drives unmounted, eventually figured out fsck was running in the background and it had continued on16:54
coz_yanleb0334,  then log off ,, type in your password ,, and at the bottom under "Sessions"  choose gnome desktop or Ubuntu..not sure  how it might be listed there16:55
cipherboymkanyicy: thanks, good to know for future reference.16:55
juk!hardware > ilea16:55
ubottuilea, please see my private message16:55
intraderdrc, it was all Ok until I disconnected the ubuntu xchat - I am on a windows machine using chatzilla16:55
yanleb0334so i can access both gnome and ubuntu 10.10 netbook from this16:56
intraderdrc, recovery console gives the option to dpkg - repair broken packages - should I do that?16:56
douglaslikonia, is there a ncurses app that I can play youtube audio thru?16:57
drcintrader: Don't know, have never had to use it...I was just replay yeats16:57
bonjoyeeyanleb0334: you could live with it....from next version standard ubuntu will have a similar interface...16:57
mkanyicymycosys, isnt karmic very old?16:57
drc message because you obviously didn't get it16:57
cipherboydouglasl: no.16:57
mycosysmkanyicy - not really16:57
mycosysa year or so16:57
mycosysis a step on the way to lucid16:58
et-0nlinecipherboy dev/sda1/is mounted warning if you continued you will cause severe filesystem damage16:58
intraderyeats, are you around?16:58
yanleb0334coz_,  ??16:58
et-0nlinethis is when i did fsck16:58
drcintrader: I'd ask the question to the general channel16:58
et-0nlineto continue or to stop it16:58
cipherboyet-0nline: stop it;16:58
mycosyseven seeing the ruddy progress would be handy16:58
cipherboyet-0nline: run this: umount /mnt16:58
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mkanyicymycosys, still far away even16:58
intraderrecovery console gives the option to dpkg - repair broken packages - should I do that?16:58
et-0nlinedone16:58
cipherboyet-0nline: now re-run the fsck: `fsck /dev/sda1`16:59
et-0nlinedone16:59
intraderdrc, thanks for your help with chatzilla16:59
mycosys!english |mkanyicy16:59
ubottumkanyicy: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList16:59
coz_yanleb0334,  which is confusing?16:59
cipherboyet-0nline: did it complete without any errors?16:59
drcintrader: NP, hope you problem finally gets resolved, but my knowledge of it is null16:59
et-0nlineyes no errors backing up journal inode block information16:59
mkanyicymycosys, i thought i am speaking english16:59
et-0nlinedev sda clean17:00
cipherboyet-0nline: now run: `mount /dev/sda1 /mnt`17:00
cipherboyet-0nline: brb17:00
mycosysnot clearly i am afraid mkanyicy - if you arent good with it, dont try to be breif17:00
mkanyicy!ot | mycosys17:00
ubottumycosys: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:00
yanleb0334coz_,  thx the download is done.. i will be switching...i will probly be back later to ask about gnome...haha thx17:00
et-0nlinecipherboy: mount point does not exist mnt17:00
cipherboyet-0nline: did you copy the forward slash too?17:01
coz_yanleb0334,  ok cool,, I may not be here but there are fat more qualified support people here  to ask :)17:01
mcfaddenThe resize grabbers in the bottom-right corner of windows in Ubuntu 10.10 are difficult to hit. Can I make them like previous ubuntu versions?17:01
yanleb0334coz_, thx17:01
mycosysso - anybody have any information?17:01
gootellaHow can I convert an ascii drawing in text format into a picture file format?17:01
et-0nlinecipherboy yes17:02
mkanyicyet-0nline, you can create another mount point then but /mnt MUST be there unless something is wrong17:02
cipherboyet-0nline: try this: `ls /` and post the output.17:02
mkanyicymycosys, how can we help you?17:02
et-0nlinebin cdrom etc initrd.img media opt rofs sbin srv tmp var ....17:03
et-0nlinemnt is there17:03
mycosyssome way to prevent karmic moving on booting while it fscks for one, and for another some way to see the progress of the backgrounded fsck17:03
cipherboyet-0nline: K... Odd.17:03
mycosysis a fscking big problem lol17:03
cipherboyet-0nline: try: `mkdir /media/hd`17:04
et-0nlinedon17:04
mkanyicymycosys, how do you know there is a backgrounded fsck?17:04
et-0nlinedone17:04
mycosystop17:04
mycosysand the filesystem that isnt mounted is busy17:04
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cipherboyet-0nline: now run: `mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /media/md`17:05
mkanyicymycosys, please pastebin all the information you have17:05
mycosysimpossible, i cannot pastebin my memory17:05
bugreporterhi, can I report a ubuntu natty bug on irc?17:05
et-0nlinemediamd does not exist is this to be media/hd17:05
cipherboyet-0nline: yes. do you not have all the slashes that I added?17:06
mkanyicymycosys, is this problem repeatable after rebooting?17:06
et-0nlineits done now17:06
cipherboyK.17:06
mycosysany chance you can answer the questions? they are generic, and relate to bug 52167217:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 521672 in mountall (Ubuntu) "Startup in Karmic with unclean filesystems leaves system in a wrong state" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52167217:06
mycosysthey are repeatable by anyone on karmic it seems17:06
cipherboyNow do: `mount -t proc none /media/md` where there is a slash before media and md.17:06
gootellaAnyone know how to *just* change the main menu color in LXDE?17:07
et-0nlinecipherboy there is no md its hd17:07
cipherboysorry.17:07
cipherboygood point.17:07
zxiest[a]If I installed something to a user, how can I get it moved to root? (and all other users)17:08
cipherboyet-0nline: `mount -t proc none /media/hd` is what I meant.17:08
et-0nlinedone17:08
intraderI am looking at the Xorg server log. It tells me that 'FATAL: module nvidia not found. How do I fix. I am running in the recovery console.17:08
cipherboyet-0nline: now run: `mount -t bind /dev /media/hd/dev`17:08
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bonjoyeezxiest[a]: please elaborate..17:08
mkanyicymycosys, there you have it17:08
mkanyicymycosys, move on to lucid17:08
Guest27390hi17:08
drcgootella: I'd ask in #lxde or #lubuntu, you stand a much better chance of an answer17:08
Guest27390How can i use this xchat ?17:09
cipherboyet-0nline: and then: `mount-t bind /dev/pts /media/hd/dev/pts`17:09
gootelladrc: Thanks17:09
et-0nlinemedia hd dev does not exist17:09
mycosysur a handy fellow arent you mkanyicy - glad i dont employ you - ever hear of a workaround?17:09
cipherboyet-0nline: what is the output of `ls /media/hd`?17:09
zxiest[a]bonjoyee I installed rvm to user x .. now I'm trying sudo rvm , it's not recognizing it. I don't want to reinstall everything to root.. I would much rather move what's installed in my user to root17:09
drcGoodMourning:You MAY get an answer here, but I'm betting against it.17:09
intraderGuest27390, ask away17:09
drcopps, sorry GoodMourning17:09
Guest27390hi17:10
ruandrc: gootella is gone17:10
giffzxiest[a], move manually from home to /opt or add the PATH?17:10
et-0nlinecipherboys lots of files17:10
GoodMourningdrc, I asked a question?17:10
cipherboyet-0nline: but no dev?17:10
bonjoyeezxiest[a]: how did you install for user? in its /home?17:10
cipherboyet-0nline: do you have a separate /home?17:10
mkanyicymycosys, id scratch my head on maverick than on karmic, so move on17:10
zxiest[a]giff doesn't matter.. whichever works17:10
et-0nlineno dev right17:10
zxiest[a]bonjoyee yes, it's in /home17:11
drcGoodMourning: Nope, sorry, tab completion...The person I was talking to left (and I have joins/psrts turned off here)17:11
cfc_pawpadawsome17:11
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giffzxiest[a], both works :P17:11
cfc_pawpadfound the channel i was looking for17:11
bonjoyeezxiest[a]: you could move it to /usr/local ..that way it will be in all users path..17:11
cfc_pawpadanyone that can help me?17:11
cipherboyet-0nline: how is that possible? no wonder it doesn't boot. Do you have a /home folder there? Also, do you have a separate /home?17:11
et-0nlinecipherboy actually if i know this fscking grub will take so long time i will reinstall the hole shit again17:11
zxiest[a]bonjoyee cool, will try that. thanks :-)17:11
yanleb0334hey i need help17:11
intraderI am looking at the Xorg server log. It tells me that 'FATAL: module nvidia not found. How do I fix. I am running in the recovery console.17:12
zxiest[a]bonjoyee another question... where would be the "bash_profile" for all users?17:12
mkanyicy!ask | cfc_pawpad17:12
ubottucfc_pawpad: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)17:12
et-0nlinei am in here /home/ubuntu17:12
cfc_pawpadi have ubuntu problems with password use17:12
bonjoyeezxiest[a]: /etc/profile17:12
cipherboyet-0nline: more or less, you need to chroot into your old install, run update-grub and it should be fixed.17:12
yanleb0334hey i need help17:12
et-0nlinei am in here /home/ubuntu17:12
zxiest[a]bonjoyee cool :-)!17:12
yanleb0334can i get itunes on gnome17:13
mkanyicycfc_pawpad, the solution is to type the right one, :)17:13
et-0nlinecipherboy what to do now17:13
xormor_how do I use gparted to take space from ntfs and give it to ubuntu?17:13
cfc_pawpadthats the thing17:13
cfc_pawpadi do17:13
yanleb0334can i get itunes on gnome17:13
cfc_pawpadit wont work in ubuntu17:13
IdleOneyanleb0334: I believe you can run the windows version in Wine17:13
cfc_pawpadbut works in terminal17:13
ruanxormor_: resize17:13
yanleb0334IdleOne, how to i get wine17:13
mkanyicyxormor, resize17:13
giffyanleb0334, try vbox, i doubt wine works with the latest version17:13
IdleOneyanleb0334: sudo apt-get install wine17:13
xormor_ruan, mkanyicy: how do I resize?17:14
cipherboyet-0nline: google how to set up a chroot on linux, chroot into your install, make sure you are root, and then run `update-grub2`17:14
ruanxormor_: right click, resize17:14
giffyanleb0334, well worth a try: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=134717:14
imetallicalol http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Linux-2.4-oops-sparc.jpg17:14
mkanyicyxormor_, your ntfs must be unmounted17:14
cipherboyet-0nline: then reboot into the ubuntu, run `sudo update-grub2`, reboot and everything might be fixed.17:14
cipherboyet-0nline: sorry, I have to go.17:15
imetallicaerr sorry wrong chan :)17:15
xormor_mkanyicy: it says it must be this size.17:15
mkanyicyxormor_, which size?17:15
mkanyicyxormor_, then it might be already full17:15
xormor_mkanyicy: 13202 MiB17:16
ruandoes linux come with APT? the kernel itself17:16
mkanyicyxormor_, first you need to back up your files before going ahead17:16
xormor_mkanyicy: its size according to windows xp is 12.8GB, and free space according to it is 4.41GB.17:16
GoodMourningOh okay, drc17:16
xormor_mkanyicy: ok17:16
intraderI am looking at the Xorg server log. It tells me that 'FATAL: module nvidia not found. How do I fix. I am running in the recovery console.17:17
giffruan, no, package management really doesn't belong into the kernel17:17
IdleOneintrader: install nvidia-current , that should fix it17:17
mkanyicythen you can get about 4GB from 'squeezing' that ntfs partition, xormor_17:17
ruangiff: ok17:17
intraderIdleOne, I am in the recovery console - how do I install the nvidia-current17:18
cfc_pawpadi think its funny when ubuntu ask for pass it refuses to work but when i use the terminal it works just fine17:18
IdleOneintrader: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current17:18
cainushey all... any pitivi users in here?  I managed to create a video with pitivi, but I can only see the video output if I run it on ubuntu... neither windows nor youtube understand the format... can anyone throw me a clue?17:18
mkanyicycfc_pawpad, under what situation are you being asked for a password?17:19
intraderIdleOne, I will log in for that? in text terminal?17:19
cfc_pawpadyes17:19
IdleOneintrader: yes17:19
xormor_mkanyicy: it refuses to change the settings in sudo gparted, and my ubuntu install cd doesn't want to boot properly.17:19
ManiiHey, I have just one question, has e17 been released yet?17:20
mkanyicyxormor_, so you are not on the live cd?17:20
mkanyicyxormor_, i recommend you get a working livecd and do resizing while you are on a livecd17:21
xormor_mkanyicy: ok17:21
mkanyicyxormor_, another things you have the 4GB available to your ntfs drive, dont you need to have it for your windows system?17:22
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xormor_mkanyicy: yes, if I want to do something with the windows system, like playing games.17:22
xormor_mkanyicy: I am thinking about it, maybe I should save the space for Windows games.17:22
intraderIdleOne, normal until I get 'Need to get 26.3MB of archives, and then Could not resolve 'archive.ubuntu.ocm'\nFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/....17:23
IdleOneintrader: the machine is connected to the network right?17:24
don_equisI can't mount an iso. I guess it can be corrupted or be a rare kind of iso. k3b doesn't recognize it as an iso. Neither "sudo mount -o loop -t auto b.iso mnt/" nor "sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 b.iso mnt/" work (the first one says "mount: you must specify the filesystem type" and the other one "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - t17:24
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Tactixintrader, have your modified your sources.list?17:24
ruandon_equis: what is this iso?17:24
don_equisA wii game.17:24
ruanah17:24
IdleOnewe don't help with copyright infringement17:25
mkanyicydon_equis, can you type: 'file b.iso' ?17:25
don_equisOh, I'm sorry.17:25
don_equisb.iso: data17:25
intraderIdleOne, it booted to text terminal - I don't see the netgear card flashing. So how do I connect from the text terminal?17:25
Tactixintrader, sudo init3 and then startx17:26
mkanyicydon_equis, it does not appear as an iso image, even mount does not recognise it17:27
intraderTactix, IdleONe, and then I could reload the driver17:27
don_equisThat is my problem.17:27
IdleOneshould be able to yes, intrader17:28
NielsMknHey guys17:28
mkanyicydon_equis, are you sure this is an ISO fole?17:28
mkanyicyfile17:28
ag5I am having problems with installing ubuntu 10.10 cause I have a 9500 gt vga card. Also I am facing the same problem while installing 10.04 LTS. Does anyone knows if the new release will have this bug with 9500 gt cards fixed?17:28
NielsMknHow do I run an application from the terminal?17:28
ruanNielsMkn: depends on the application17:28
IdleOneNielsen: which application?17:28
Tactixintrader, you installed nvidia-current from repo, so after init 3 and startx you should be using the nvidia driver 196 something17:28
don_equisIt is supposed to be a cd image file. If it is exactly an iso i can't know.17:28
edbianNielsMkn, if you want to run firefox you type this: firefox    and press enter17:28
NielsMknWhen I type the name of the program followed by & it closes the terminal17:28
yanleb0334IdleOne, hey... ive downloaded wine now how do i work itunes with it17:28
edbianNielsMkn, ummm, it shouldn't...17:28
whiterabbitNielsMkn, and if it's not executable you have to chmod u+x somefile17:29
NielsMknwell I'm trying to run a 32-bit game on 64-bit Ubuntu 10.1017:29
whiterabbitand after that you launch by ./somefile.17:29
mkanyicydon_equis, do you know how was it created, by what application?17:29
IdleOneyanleb0334: now double click on the .exe file and it should start up Wine, follow instructions given.17:29
edbianNielsMkn, Does running firefox work?17:29
don_equisDo you know any app that tries to find out if it is an cd image file or not? I have no idea, i'm sorry17:29
mkanyicydon_equis, if its an iso, then its corrupted17:29
intraderTactix, IdleOne, I am unable to find commad init317:30
yanleb0334IdleOne, what exe file17:30
ruandon_equis: can you extract the iso using 7z?17:30
giffyanleb0334, try this http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=209117:30
don_equisNope.17:30
NielsMknyeah edbian17:30
Tactixintrader, command is init 317:30
Tactixwith a space17:30
IdleOneyanleb0334: you have the install file for itunes?17:30
ruandon_equis: what error does it give?17:30
mkanyicyruan, 7z?17:30
jOZehola17:30
ruanmkanyicy: 7zip17:30
ruan!info 7z17:30
ubottuPackage 7z does not exist in maverick17:30
don_equisCan not open file as archive17:30
ruan!info 7zip17:30
ubottuPackage 7zip does not exist in maverick17:30
ruangah17:30
juk!info p7zip17:30
ubottup7zip (source: p7zip): 7zr file archiver with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Version 9.04~dfsg.1-1 (maverick), package size 350 kB, installed size 1000 kB17:30
juk!info p7zip-full17:31
ubottup7zip-full (source: p7zip): 7z and 7za file archivers with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Version 9.04~dfsg.1-1 (maverick), package size 1371 kB, installed size 3400 kB17:31
yanleb0334IdleOne, not yet...after i download it i try and open it and it will go with wine right?17:31
mkanyicyruan, so iso is like a zip?17:31
IdleOneyanleb0334: it should yes17:31
PhoenixSTFFor samba is nmdb needed to be up?17:31
ruanmkanyicy: 7z supports iso files17:31
Tactixwhy is this info not from the ! trigger not sent in notice gdmmit17:31
mkanyicyruan, ok thanks17:31
ruanhold on, let me check with one of my own isos17:31
intraderTactix, IdleOne, can't see anything different, the netgear card is not flashing.17:31
yanleb0334IdleOne, ok i will be back later if there is another problem thx17:31
ruanyep, i extracted one of my own isos successfully with 7z17:32
Tactixintrader, netgear?? you were talking about installing nvidia drivers17:32
Tactixnetgear is a lan/wifi adapter not?17:32
NielsMkn:(17:32
IdleOneTactix: he hasn't install the nvidia-current package yet, he needs to get online before.17:32
IdleOneinstalled*17:32
juk!mount | ruan17:32
ubotturuan: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount17:32
TactixIdleOne, intrader, my bad, i was under the impressions you were installing nvidia drivers17:33
ruanjuk: im just indicating that 7z supports iso files17:33
IdleOneTactix: well that was the original plan but then he got a error about not reaching the repo17:33
intraderTactix, IdleOne, you are correct - I don't have network in this text terminal so you said to run `init 3`. No  change in the nvidia install - same 'Could not resolve 'archive.ubuntu.som'17:33
jumoiti can't still get sound in ubuntu 10.04 after following some guides out there. so, any ideas?17:33
jumoit!sound | jumoit17:34
ubottujumoit, please see my private message17:34
TactixIdleOne, intrader, but is the error only for one repo? otherwise it could be there is a fault in his sources.list17:34
jukruan: it does, mount is more natural way of doing it :)17:34
intraderTactix, IdleOne, repo?17:35
jumoithey, YOU GUYS, could you please give me a hand??17:35
giffdon_equis, wii isos have their own proprietary filesystem, you can copy them with dd, inspect them with a hexeditor but not mount them on Linux (afaik), there are tools that may help you accomplish what you are trying to do such as http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Ftpii17:35
ag5To install NVIDIA driver, of course, you must disable the Kernel Nouveau. Ok, let’s start it from beginning.17:35
ag5 17:35
ag51. Go to NVIDIA website and download the compatible driver for your graphic card series.17:35
ag52. Reboot your Ubuntu.17:35
ag53. Choose the ‘Recovery Mode’ on GRUB.17:35
FloodBot3ag5: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:35
Tactixintrader, repository, collection of software for your system17:35
ag54. Go to the bottom of menu list, choose ‘root console’.17:35
ag55. Disable the Kernel Nouveau.17:35
IdleOneintrader: repo is short for repository. What happens when you run sudo apt-get update ?17:35
jumoit????17:35
ruanag5: nvidia drivers are also in repos17:35
don_equisgiff: Thank you, i'll check it.17:36
Jean-Thomassorry, can anyone know how to fix my problem, when i reboot to finish the installation of ubuntu, say coulnd open ubuntu/instal/.iso17:36
IdleOne!ask | jumoit17:36
ubottujumoit: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)17:36
intraderTactix, IdleOne, without network a lot of errors17:36
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IdleOneintrader: ok so the first thing you need to do is get network connection working17:36
Tactixintrader, and with network only one error?17:36
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IdleOneintrader: I do not know how to do that in terminal. maybe Tactix does17:36
intraderTactix, IdleOne, I don't, Tactix said to run 'init 3' - it does nothing17:37
Tactixintrader, IdleOne, command for networking : sudo /etc/init.d/networking start17:37
Tactixintrader, the init 3 command is for when u are installing your nvidia drivers17:38
jumoitIdleOne: i'm sorry. actually, i have followed some guides like  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound. but, what a pity, i can't get sound in ubuntu 10.04. so, any ideas?17:38
ag5just hope ubuntu new realease will have this nvidia installation issue fixed eith the new release17:39
milen8204How to situate the gnome-terminal in exactly place at my Desktop?17:39
IdleOnejumoit: try running alsamixer from terminal and make sure nothing is muted.17:39
IdleOnelater folks.17:39
milen8204on start I mean17:39
jumoitIdleOne: yep, as you said. i have been done. but, never got sound. :(17:40
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intraderTactix, IdleOne, it says 'Rather than invoking init scripts thorugh /etc. ... n Since the script you are attempting to invoke ... etc17:40
ruanmilen8204: what do you mean?17:40
kellaHey, I've get a bit of strange problem, is there any way to disable a specific keyboard in ubuntu?17:41
Tactixintrader: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-restart-start-stop-networking-service-howto/17:41
kellaI'm using 11.04 alpha if that matters17:41
ZenT510!natty | kella17:41
ubottukella: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.17:41
pithell17:41
kellaOK, let's pretend I'm using 10.10 then17:42
pithello17:42
vanillaslicehello, i have just bought a VPN..what do i need to do to setup my new domain to my new VPN?17:42
pithi, whant17:42
vanillasliceVPS*17:42
smwvanillaslice, that is between you and your dns provider17:43
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kellaThe keyboard is connected via usb, it's actually an IR receiver built in to the monitor but it looks like a keyboard in windows so I assume Ubuntu is seeing the same thing17:43
intraderTactix, IdleOne, no wireless17:44
pithall zusammen ich wollte vcds apspielen aber wie unter ubuntunicht möglich17:44
smwvanillaslice, dns points to an ip address. You may also need to talk to your vps provider about reverse dns. However, none of this has to do with linux.17:44
smw!german | pit17:44
ubottupit: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.17:44
DJoneskella: You need to join #ubuntu+1 for support queries on natty17:44
Karmic_Koalacan anyone help me to install FreePBX on Ubuntu 9.10 ??? pvt please17:44
kellaThis has nothing to do with the version of ubuntu17:44
pitok thx17:44
cg2916when i boot ubuntu, i get stuck on the grub command line, can anybody help?17:45
ruan!9.1017:45
ubottuUbuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) was the eleventh release of Ubuntu. Downloading: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ - Release Notes: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/91017:45
intraderTactix, IdleOne, when I connect the ethernet, it tells me 'Ignoring unknow interface etho0=etho. twice and the Ok17:45
drckella: ALL natty questions go to #ubuntu+117:45
ruanhmm, why dont they say the EOL17:45
liminal_hi , i need to modify my kernal, but the following comand line seems to be missing a repository17:45
liminal_sudo apt-add-repository ppa: kernel-ppa/ppa sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-backport-natty linux-headers-generic-lts-backport-natty17:45
ZULOhi ppl17:45
smwruan, they say eol if it is eol17:45
ruanok17:45
liminal_Error: need a repository as argument17:45
ZULOwho know things about route rules?17:46
imetallica#ubuntu-ptbr17:46
ruanliminal_: try in #ubuntu+117:46
drcimetallica: try  /j #ubuntu-ptbr17:46
intraderTactix, IdleOne, I have net work from ethernet - update gets all sources. What next to get the nvidia?17:46
Tactixintrader, no clue mate, i would say the system doesnt recognize your network card or something17:46
imetallicaactually it's ubuntu-br :D17:47
imetallicaand I forgot to add /j :P17:47
IdleOneintrader: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current17:47
Tactixintrader, you have to blacklist the nouveay driver first17:47
offtis UTC the same as GMT?17:47
pithello, i will play vcds on ubuntu. but it is not work?17:47
Tactixerr nouveau driver17:47
drcofft: yes17:47
intraderTactix, IdleOne, that is going Ok, not finished yet, then what?17:48
offtdrc: ok :) so when gmt time changes utc will too?17:48
wildc4rdafternoon all17:48
offtdrc: just wondering as my ubuntu is using utc.. which is the same time as gmt17:48
cg2916when i boot ubuntu, i get stuck on the grub command line, can anybody help?17:48
LjLofft: what do you mean "gmt time changes"?17:48
drcofft: they are different names for the same TZ...UTC is more politically correct17:48
ZULOwho know things about route rules?17:48
IdleOneintrader: you will been to reboot when it is done installing and with a little luck and a lot of hope it will work17:48
smwofft, utc and gmt are the same. Except... I believe they have different opinions on where to put a leap second...17:49
offtLjL: like when gmt +1.. will ubuntu automatically use utc + 1?17:49
IdleOnes/been/need/17:49
offtor whatnot...17:49
ZULOhow i can create a route rule??17:49
LjLofft: no idea, but GMT doesn't change. the UK simply switches to BST (British Summer Time) instead. GMT is still the same.17:49
smwZULO, why do you want to create a route rule?17:49
Tactixintrader, after, sudo apt-get install nvidia-config17:49
leg3ndintrader, defenitley a xorg problem, look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf    Often nvidia drivers will create backup configurations when you install the video driver.17:58
leg3ndintrader, whats your output of 'lsmod | grep nvidia'17:58
A_Jok people a question, in deluge what is Daemon and why is it not starting ?17:58
cg2916I am running Natty Alpha 3. I used Update Manager to install something (not sure what it was), then I restarted, but instead of listing all the kernels, it gave me a command line. I don't know what happened and how to use it. Help!17:58
taqaedbian what do i need to do after i install ubuntu, i use gpart and install another os how to configure ubuntu grub or another bootloader17:58
ZenT510!natty | cg291617:58
ubottucg2916: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.17:58
milen8204ruan, I mean: I don't want my gnome-terminal to start on upper-left angle on my screen at start.17:58
smwZULO, so, you have a router -> internal server -> external server -> internet?17:58
edbiantaqa, This guide explains all: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub217:58
intraderTactix, IdleOne, log3nd, the lsmod gives nothing17:58
ruanmilen8204: you can drag the icon to wherever you want it17:58
fermulatorAnyone have any idea how "df" can show a filesystem (root) 100% used, while "du" shows only 50% used?  http://pastebin.com/e4amiVcU17:58
nick2not to sure17:58
muay-guyHey guys, just realized I have only 680 mb available in my / and 192 GiB in /host... how come?17:58
intraderTactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, the lsmod gives nothing17:58
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Tactixintrader, look @ private convo (query), if posted your sollution there17:58
leg3ndintrader, are you installing the driver from a .run file (from the nvidia website) or from the "hardware manager"?17:58
muay-guyis it possible to reloccate some of that space?17:59
Tactixleg3nd, he is installing from repo's17:59
Tactixnvidia-current17:59
A_Jwhere can i find config/deluge ?17:59
ZULOsmw, i have:  router with internet(192.168.1.1) -> wlan0 laptop -> eth0 laptop -> router without internet (192.168.2.1) -> desktop17:59
milen8204ruan, when I start my gnome-terminal it appears in my upper-left angle, I want to appears to different spot :D17:59
monkeyDhi guys, I am trying to install ubuntu on the laptop of my brother, but I have problems, the installation doesnt go further I only can close the installation, but ubuntu live works17:59
yanleb0334IdleOne, still does it17:59
leg3ndintrader, iv never had a problem out of the repos, but that doesnt say much really. If it doesnt 'just work' from repos (after a reboot) then i would try from the nvidia drivers page.17:59
ruanmilen8204: oh18:00
cfc_pawpadoki anyone super good with ubuntu stuff please IM me18:00
ZULOsmw, i can make ping to 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.2.1 but cant use internet18:00
ag5with which command can someone download the nvidia drivers from the recovery console ?18:00
caimlas__hi, I've got an ubuntu 10.04 machine that, upon boot, tries to start both lxdm and gdm. It seems they have a 'race' to be the first one to start, because I get a different one on different boots. I would like to disable one or the other; however, /etc/rc2.d does not appear to have initscripts for either of them. I'm curious how I can disable them?18:00
ruanag5: sudo apt-get install nvidia-common18:00
intraderTactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, the pervious kernel (from grub) loads just fine18:00
abbiyahello all18:00
ag5thanx18:00
ZULOsmw, i think that is for routing rules18:00
leg3ndZULO,  can you resolv DNS? like say when you ping www.google.com?18:00
tbruff13can someone help me with adacity in ubuntu18:00
A_Jcan som1 help me find config/deluge ?18:01
leg3ndZULO, also whats the output of 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'18:01
ZULOno leg3nd18:01
ZenT510cfc_pawpad: it's best to tell your problem to the channel18:01
Tactixcaimlas__ you can do a "locate default-diplay-manager" see what is started in that file18:01
abbiya11.04...........when it comes ?18:01
ruan!natty18:01
ubottuNatty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.18:01
ZULOleg3nd,  in resolv.conf i have "nameserver 80.58.61.250"18:01
ZULOneed add my own ip ?18:01
A_Jruan can u help me find config/deluge18:01
cfc_pawpadwell i cant use my password in the software unless i open the terminal18:01
leg3ndintrader, give this a shot. 'sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-current && sudo apt-get -y install nvidia-current'18:01
milen8204ruan, I tried whit --geometry but it works only in a terminal, any idea?18:02
caimlas__Tactix, I don't have that/it returns nothing.18:02
dejan_how can I make apache owner of one folder in www folder?18:02
leg3ndZULO, give this a shot 'echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" > /etc/resolv.conf'18:02
tbruff13I cant import .flv files and i don't know why18:02
ruanmilen8204: im not sure, it starts at bottom right for me18:02
drctbruff13: try #audacity18:02
dejan_so it can write files there18:02
leg3ndZULO, let me know if you can resolve DNS after that18:02
smwZULO, this may help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge18:02
tbruff13k18:02
abbiyahey all18:02
A_Jsom1 please tell me where is .config/delege18:02
ruantbruff13: .flv files are videos18:02
r0b0xchat doesn't seem to work for me on windows18:03
caimlas__Tactix, where/what might I look for?18:03
intraderTactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, what is &&18:03
milen8204ruan, I see, ok thanks18:03
monkeyDI am trying to install ubuntu on the laptop of my brother, but I have problems, the installation doesnt go further I only can close the installation, but ubuntu live works18:03
Tactixcaimlas__ the file is in /etc/X1118:03
leg3ndintrader, it just chains commands together, one after another18:03
monkeyDcan anyone help me please ?18:03
ZULOleg3nd, thanks i go try that18:03
ZULOsmw, thanks i see that now18:03
ActionParsnipleg3nd: that will need a root console to work18:03
A_Jleg3nd can u help me find .config/deluge18:03
ruanmonkeyD: where doesnt it go further?18:03
abbiyain my laptop my wifi is connected but i am not able to surf..firefox and opera are give server not found messages18:03
caimlas__Tactix, hmm I don't have that.18:03
tbruff13i dont see any adacity channel18:03
Tactixintrader, && glues commands together like this sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade18:03
leg3ndActionParsnip, your right i run backtrack and forget sometimes lol, thanks.18:03
yanleb0334IdleOne, can you access my computer through remote desktop??18:04
caimlas__Tactix, find /etc -name *display* returns nothing.18:04
drcmonkeyD: Doesn't "go further" that what?18:04
smiley7hey guys,im geting an error from Update manager18:04
smwZULO, note that it warns you should not use it because it is old lol18:04
leg3ndA_J, Im not sure what you mean18:04
GalaxorWhen I dig diaspora.pirateship.org from home, it times out without hitting any servers.  When I dig galaxor.pirateship.org from home, it gets the right answer.  When I dig diaspora.pirateship.org from anywhere else, it gets the right answer.  When I dig nonexisting domains from home, it returns my isp's stupid "site finder".  What is up with this?  Why can't I get diaspora.pirateship.org's address?18:04
Tactixcaimlas__ you dont have the X11 folder?18:04
intraderTactix, I had forgotten - thanks18:04
Galaxorns1.pirateship.org is running djbdns.18:04
monkeyDruan: after the windows where you can select foreign pakages and accept the download updates18:04
ZULOsmw, ok :>18:04
A_Jleg3nd check here18:04
A_Jhttp://forum.deluge-torrent.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2645518:04
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ActionParsnipA_j: open nautilus and press CTRL+H and you will see the .co18:04
GalaxorIs there some way to see debugging output, to know if, like, some recursive lookup is failing?18:04
ActionParsnip.config folder18:05
caimlas__Tactix, yes, I do. I don't have a 'default-display-manager' file in there, however. (and I'm having a difficult time figuring out how X/the dms start, if not by init)18:05
LarsTorbenhi18:05
dejan_how can I make apache owner of one directory so it can write files there?18:05
tbruff13i dont see any aduacity channel18:05
Tactixmake it then :)18:05
tbruff13can someone help me please18:05
LarsTorbenshell ubuntu 10.04 or ubuntu 10.10 ?18:05
tbruff13oh18:05
Tactixcaimlas__, make it then :)18:05
smiley7it says not all updates can be installed,it says something about a partial update18:05
LarsTorben 18:05
leg3ndA_J, I dont have too much expierence with that, ActionParsnip may know more. Although the first thing i see is 'upgraded to karmic' which isnt a good start.18:05
A_Jwhats nutilius ActionParsnip ?18:05
ruan!nautilus18:05
bmfytbruff13: whats your issue?18:05
abbiyain my laptop my wifi is connected but i am not able to surf..firefox and opera are give server not found messages18:05
LarsTorben!nautilus18:05
drctbruff13: It's #audacity , spell it right for once18:05
ruan!info nautilus18:05
ubottunautilus (source: nautilus): file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.32.0-0ubuntu1.3 (maverick), package size 1138 kB, installed size 3036 kB18:06
ActionParsnipdejan_: sure, use chown to change ownership. Be careful with it18:06
tbruff13drc, sorry18:06
Tactixcaimlas__, sudo echo /usr/bin/gdm >>default-display-manager18:06
LarsTorbenubuntu 10.04 or 10.10?18:06
nit-witsmiley7, look in synaptic for any missing dependencies18:06
Tactixcaimlas__, sudo echo /usr/bin/gdm >> default-display-manager18:06
intraderTactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, while 'Processing triggers for python-support.... 'Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied - then ask are you root?18:06
monkeyDruan: any ideas ?18:06
tbruff13my issue is audacity wont let me import flv it says there is something wrong with ffmpeg, but there is not18:06
yanleb0334hey can anyone help me with itunes and wine18:06
caimlas__Tactix, I did find /etc/init/gdm.conf and lxdm.conf - if I were to remove one of these, should it work?18:06
Tactixintrader, run the command as sudo18:07
dejan_ActionParsnip: why careful? I want to make apache owner of a directory is that bad?18:07
smiley7it has always worked before.....18:07
leg3ndintrader, you can only use one instance of DPKG at a time, close synaptic.18:07
dejan_so visitors can upload files there18:07
Sw33NY_hey, do you know an command for copy with pourcentag and speed ?18:07
Sw33NY_hey, do you know an command for copy with % and speed ?18:07
yanleb0334hey can anyone help me with itunes and wine18:07
ruanmonkeyD: what does it do if you click next?18:07
Tactixcaimlas__, no those are config file for the respective managers, it will not prevent them from starting18:07
ZULOleg3nd, with nameserver 8.8.8.8 not resolv18:07
ZenT510yanleb0334: ask in #winehq18:07
leg3ndZULO, you are using DHCP right?18:07
LarsTorbendont pm me ubottu18:07
smiley7missing for What ?18:07
A_JActionParsnip i have to install18:08
intraderTactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, so both commands have to have sudo - that completes18:08
A_Jnautilus ?18:08
ActionParsnipA_j: when you use the places menu, nautilus is the file browser18:08
giffyanleb0334, I linked you a tutorial somewhere above, did you follow it? but I second ZenT51018:08
LarsTorbenA_J:18:08
LarsTorben!info nautilus18:08
ubottunautilus (source: nautilus): file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.32.0-0ubuntu1.3 (maverick), package size 1138 kB, installed size 3036 kB18:08
ZULOleg3nd, with wlan0 interface rigth, with eth0 no18:08
monkeyDruan: nothing, just the waiting curso is there and I waited more then 20 minutes and nothing happend, I only can close18:08
Tactixintrader yes18:08
intraderTactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, now reboot?18:08
A_Jty LarsTorben18:08
LarsTorbennp18:08
Tactixintrader yes18:08
leg3ndintrader, yea reboot and hopefully your nvidia module will load, if not you may need to boot from a live CD if you have no graphics driver.18:08
ruanmonkeyD: is that all which is on the screen?18:09
A_JLarsTorben Alt + H not gettin me to config folder18:09
leg3ndZULO, which are you trying to connect though? ethernet?18:09
tbruff13hello18:09
sprashHi how can i reduce the spacing between the icons in the indicator area?18:09
A_J.config*18:09
smiley7how do i do that ?18:09
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smiley7how do i find whats missing ?18:09
monkeyDruan: yes18:09
cipherboyA_J: you trying to get to show hidden folders?18:10
Cheetah1985hi18:10
ruanmonkeyD: does it work if both are unchecked?18:10
cipherboyA_J: if so, it is CTRL+H.18:10
intraderTactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, no GUI back to text terminal18:10
A_Jkk cipherboy got it18:10
ActionParsnipA_j: it won't. It only shows hidden files and folders18:10
dejan_with chown can I change owner of directory or just file?18:10
Tactixintrader, startx18:10
leg3ndintrader, no biggie, are you on a live CD now?18:10
ZULOleg3nd, i want have access to 2 networks 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.2.1, i have access but no internet i want have internet too. internet come in wlan0 interface18:10
monkeyDI tried all options, with both unchecked, unchecked, with wlan, without wlan18:10
Sw33NY_hey, do you know an command for copy with % and speed ?18:10
monkeyDnothing worked  ruan18:11
xdccFriend_[1740ciao18:11
A_JActionParsnip check here please18:11
A_Jhttp://forum.deluge-torrent.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2645518:11
ruanmonkeyD: hmm im not sure then18:11
xdccFriend_[1740!list18:11
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »18:11
A_Jthere is no label file18:11
leg3ndZULO, 'sudo dhclient wlan0' and try18:11
smiley7anybody ?18:12
kellaOK, In ubuntu 10.10 is there any way to identify the keyboard that input is coming from?18:12
ActionParsnipdejan_: both. You can also add -R to the command for recursive chown of a folder and all subfolders and files18:12
leg3ndZULO, if your trying to acctually bridge your connection from wireless to the ethernet interface, thats going to get a bit more complicated with IP tables.18:12
intraderTactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, no I dont' have the live CD18:12
yanleb0334_hey can anyone help me with itunes on wine18:12
ActionParsnipdejan_: if you malforn a chown com18:12
yanleb0334_hey can anyone help me with itunes on wine18:13
A_JActionParsnip i'm unable to start Deamon18:13
drcyanleb0334_: : Try #winehq18:13
leg3ndintrader, okay, so your in a text terminal right now with no x server running?18:13
dejan_ActionParsnip: thanks alot!18:13
ActionParsnipdejan_: you may break your OS, especially if recursive is used18:13
intraderTactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, correct18:13
monkeyDruan: any ideas ?18:13
leg3nddoes the 'lsmod | grep nvidia' output anything now?18:14
leg3ndintrader, does the 'lsmod | grep nvidia' output anything now?18:14
ZULOleg3nd, im drawing a little scheme to clear my problem w8 :D18:14
ActionParsnipA_j: how did you install it?18:14
A_JVia Software Manager18:14
dejan_ActionParsnip: why I will change owner of just only few files that are in www folder18:14
dejan_to apache18:14
leg3nddejan_, its www-data  not apache18:15
intraderTactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, nothing for lsmod |grep nvidia18:15
ActionParsnipdejan_: human error exists. I'm simply advising caution :-)18:15
leg3ndintrader, can you 'modprobe nvidia' ?18:15
leg3ndintrader, or does that output 'not found'?18:16
yanleb0334_drc, not many people there to answer18:16
giffsmiley7, use apt-get dist-upgrade in terminal and post output if it doesn't work18:16
ActionParsnipA_j: does it no just run when you use the application menu?18:16
JohnMFHi. How do I make file1 point to file2?18:17
drcyanleb0334_: so be patient18:17
JohnMFboth files already exitst18:17
smiley7i am a newbe to linux...18:17
leg3ndJohnMF, with a symlink  'man ln'18:17
JohnMFleg3nd: can they be removed? :)18:17
yanleb0334_does anyone know a way other than wine to use itunes18:17
A_JActionParsnip the program launches but gives an error " Unable to Start Daemon"18:17
JohnMF!itunes18:17
ubottuitunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee18:17
ActionParsnipleg3nd: the nvidia guy you are helping may need to ru18:17
intraderTactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, 'Module nvidia not found18:17
leg3ndActionParsnip, ru?18:17
drcyanleb0334_: or fire up you browser and go to www.winehq.org and look there18:17
Danielcg25iNeed to sync/restore my iPod. Only iTunes can do that18:18
ActionParsnipleg3nd: 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' ;-)18:18
giff!tell smiley7 about who18:18
ubottusmiley7, please see my private message18:18
leg3ndActionParsnip, even if the module isnt in the kernel?18:18
MacByteis ruan here?18:18
sir_tyrionWhere there is a directory you normally would have full rights on, but you don't want to accidentally screw it up, so you can temp go into RO mode. This way you can avoid misclicks without ahving to remount the directory18:18
JohnMFleg3nd: should I use -s or not? and can these be removed?18:18
sir_tyrionIs there a way to put nautilus in RO mode?18:18
leg3ndActionParsnip, and i though that was done automatically via repos18:19
sir_tyrionWhere there is a directory you normally would have full rights on, but you don't want to accidentally screw it up, so you can temp go into RO mode. This way you can avoid misclicks without having to remount the directory18:19
ActionParsnipA_j: not sure then dude. Is there a bug logged for it?18:19
smiley7oh well...i guess its back to linux Mint18:19
MacByteI get this message after I install sun java 6 though sudo18:19
giffsmiley7, open terminal and type: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade18:19
MacBytePackage sun-java6-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.18:19
MacByteThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or18:19
MacByteis only available from another source18:19
A_Ji dont think so ActionParsnipq18:19
FloodBot3MacByte: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:19
MacByteoh sorry18:19
leg3ndJohnMF, depends what your doing but yes -s is normal, and delete them i think just rm?18:19
smiley7ok18:19
JohnMFleg3nd: file 1 is existing already... do i have to delete that?18:20
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JohnMFdoes ln create a fake file?18:20
christopher_I downloaded sysinfo, I click on "system" and the thing just closes without so much a s a thank you18:20
christopher_anyone else have this issue?18:20
leg3ndJohnMF, no it just creates a link which will redirect to the file you tell it to18:20
A_JChristoffer works fine for me18:20
JohnMFleg3nd: basically.. I want to make it so anything that goes to /sites-available/default.. gets sent to /sites-available/moo18:20
christopher_huh weird18:20
christopher_oh well lol18:20
JohnMFleg3nd: both "default" and "moo" are already created18:21
leg3ndJohnMF, your trying to setup multiple apache websites?18:21
JohnMFleg3nd: its a temp thing.. and I know its not correct ;) but yeah18:21
JohnMFjust need a quick fix18:21
christopher_thats so werid18:21
leg3ndJohnMF, Oh okay, normally i just use a2dissite and a2ensite for that stuff, i have a handy command laying around ill see if i can find it.18:21
rajvihow to uninstall enemy territory just install18:21
A_JActionParsnip what shd i do18:21
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Dr_Willisrajvi:  if it installed to a directory in your users home.. delete that directory,.18:22
MacBytehow hard is it to install java on ubuntu?18:22
ActionParsnipleg3nd: if the monitor isn't reporting EDID then the driver will fail to load. EDID will show refresh rates available for the driver to use. The xorg.conf file generated by nvidia-xconfig will tell the OS due to cheap/lacking hardware18:22
leg3ndJohnMF,   'ls /etc/apache2/sites-available/ | xargs a2dissite && a2ensite moo'  this would disable all websites and enable moo18:22
ZenT510!java | MacByte18:22
ubottuMacByte: To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.18:22
Dr_WillisMacByte:  trivial - its in the variouys repositories.18:22
rajviThanks Willy18:22
JohnMFI don't want to do that18:22
insulinahello, I have a bamboo wacom pen and touch tablet, and I follow install it with success, but the settings are not rigth I think the size is not correct, but I cant find where to modify this, this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom says that the configuration are in  here /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ but I cant see any files in there18:22
JohnMFIs there a way to remove a symlink?18:23
Dr_Willisinsulina:  you can make a file in there.18:23
ActionParsnipA_j: search the bugs to see if there is a known fix or workaround18:23
Dr_WillisJohnMF:  you can delete a symlink as if it was a file.18:23
fluitfriesdoes anyone have experience installing LoL game via WINE using this?  winelol_1.3.16-2_amd64.deb  thanks!!18:23
mrwesJohnMF: delete it18:23
leg3ndActionParsnip, Yea, I always though that was just done automaticly when installed from the repos, but good to know.18:23
JohnMFmrwes: So when I link file1 to file2, creating the link will delete my file1?18:23
JohnMFoverwide it?18:23
Reaper4231sorry, can anyone know how to fix my problem, with wubi when i reboot to finish the installation of ubuntu, counlnt open iso18:23
JohnMFoverride**18:24
Dr_WillisJohnMF:   delete the link.. deletes the link.. not the file.18:24
mrweswhat Doc said18:24
JohnMFWhat command do i use to delete the link18:24
mrwes:)18:24
JohnMFrm -rf would delete the file18:24
JohnMF..18:24
Dr_WillisJohnMF:  play wth the ln -s command   with some fake filenames..18:24
Dr_Willisrm linkname18:24
ActionParsnipleg3nd: udev usually detects stuff but sometimes it needs a hand18:24
JohnMF...18:24
JohnMFDon't think you get me18:24
fluitfriesthe problem i have with winelol_1.3.16-2_amd64.deb is that when i try to install -i it says i do not have dependencies.  but when i look these depends up in Synaptic, I see that they are all installed....18:24
mrwesJohnMF: remember, it's symbolic18:25
Danielcg25Does Wine work with Mac apps too?18:25
JasonnHow do i start the VPN service in xubuntu?18:25
Dr_WillisDanielcg25:  err.. No.18:25
JohnMF> I want to link file1 to file2 so that anything that tries to access file1, will see file2.     Although, file1 currently has info in it that I don't want to be deleted18:25
giffJohnMF, it's no good idea to default to always using -rf when all you want to do is delete a _file_18:25
JohnMFSo later on.. removing the symlink from file1, will delete its current contents too?18:25
Danielcg25Is there something like wine for Mac software?18:25
ActionParsnipJohnMF: why would deleting a link need force? And if it is a file, why is recursive needed?18:26
Dr_WillisJohnMF:  a soft link.. is differnt from a hard link.. removeing a soft link will not delete the original file/data.18:26
Dr_Williswriting TO a softlink.. will write to the original file.18:26
Dr_WillisDanielcg25:  never seen such a thing.18:26
fluitfriesis there a command switch for dpkg i am missing?  one that forces install or fetches dependencies?18:26
JohnMFDr_Willis: So how do you make a soft link, and remove it18:26
JasonnActionParsnip: I am trying to connect to a VPN, but it gives me an error that the VPN service could not start... Any ideas?18:26
edbianJohnMF, Why do you need file1 to be the symlink?  Make a backup of file1.  Make the symlink with file1 for a name.  When you need to delete file 2 manually remove the symlink and rename file1.bak to just file118:26
ActionParsnipfluitfries: try: sudo apt-get -f install18:26
leg3ndJohnMF, ln -s FILE1 FILE218:26
fluitfriesActionParsnip: on a .deb file?18:27
Dr_WillisJohnMF:  ln -s foo foo2            then 'rm foo2'18:27
Dr_Willisor was it foo1  i forget the order..18:27
cipherboyfluitfries: dpkg -i /path/to/.deb18:27
leg3ndfluitfries, dpkg -i DEB_FILE.deb18:27
Dr_Willisfluitfries:  try 'gdebi foo.deb'18:27
JohnMFrm foo1 would remove the link as well as foo1's contents18:27
JohnMF....18:27
JohnMFhow to remove just the link?18:27
edbianDr_Willis, target, link name18:27
ProfNoelhello18:27
Dr_WillisJohnMF:  make some files.. and try it. removeing a link wil;l NOT delete the original file.18:27
mcl0vini need help with tap0 interface18:28
JohnMFso you have to rm twice before the contents are deleted?18:28
JohnMF...18:28
ActionParsnipJasonn: no idea. Try asking the channel18:28
JohnMFnot much docs on this18:28
ProfNoelon 11.04 how remove unity ???18:28
JasonnI am trying to connect to a VPN, but it gives me an error that the VPN service could not start... Any ideas?18:28
Dr_WillisJohnMF:  man ln. perhaps..18:28
JohnMFyeh, not much18:28
giffJohnMF, even with hardlinks, only if all links are deleted the "file" is really deleted18:28
Dr_WillisJohnMF:  if you want to delete the link AND the original. you delete both.18:28
JohnMFlike i said ^18:28
TTY_problemHow can I remove and purge all the keys from a PPA?18:28
fluitfriesDr_Willis: let me install gdebi18:28
drc!natty | ProfNoel18:28
ubottuProfNoel: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.18:28
Dr_WillisJohnMF:  i never needed many docs.. its never been an issue.. you are thinking its doing things its not.. play with it for 4 min and learn.18:28
mcl0vini setup a tap 0 interface , and connect it to a cloud in GNS3 , i can ping the tap 0 int but not what is connected to it which is on the same /24 network18:29
cipherboyProfNoel, log out, and before you sign back in, select Ubuntu Desktop Edition.18:29
geoffmccJasonn: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-pptp-vpn-server-with-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html // I followed this guide and have no problems with my vpn, maybe it will help you18:30
ProfNoelcipherboy, thanks18:30
fluitfriesDr_Willis: you are the man!  thanks!18:31
nit-witProfNoel, I 'll talk to you on #ubuntu+118:31
Jasonngeoffmcc: Thanks for the help, but looks like the link is down from here D:18:31
cipherboyProfNoel: you could also remove the unity package...18:31
drcProfNoel: That doesn't not "remove" Unity, it just boots you into the desktop edition, was that what you wanted?18:31
mcl0vinhow do i disable iptables in my box18:32
Dr_Willis!firewall | mcl0vin18:32
ubottumcl0vin: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist.18:32
geoffmccJasonn: oh sorry. yup looks like ubuntugeek is down right now18:32
Jasonngeoffmcc: Ill try going on it in about an hour, thanks for your help :)18:32
ProfNoeldrc and cipherboy remove unity as default shell for all user... i'll switch to #ubuntu+118:33
leg3ndmcl0vin, 'iptables -F && iptables -X' will flush all IPtables rules in the table18:33
geoffmccJasonn: http://cviorel.easyblog.ro/2009/02/09/how-to-set-up-a-vpn-server-on-ubuntu/    <--- pretty much the same tut18:33
Jasonngeoffmcc: I am not trying to install the VPN server, i already have that, im trying to connect to tit18:34
danyhola,¿como se abren archivos UDF en ubuntu 10.10?18:35
geoffmccJasonn: yea if not working for you would prob be config so i thought maybe that would help. Another thing would be maybe ipsec passthrew on router?18:35
Jasonngeoffmcc: How would i do that? And what would that do?18:36
giff!es >dany18:36
ubottudany, please see my private message18:36
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geoffmccJasonn: on my dd-wrt router its in security /vpn passthrew  .. enabled IPSec Passthroug, PPTP Passthrough and L2TP Passthrough18:37
ZULOleg3nd, here the picture http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/5426/problemq.jpg18:39
redboatr18:39
redboatdoes anyone know how to find the Leo Laporte TwitTV IRC channel?18:40
geoffmccJasonn: also assuming you have forwarded port 1723 and is also open in firewall18:40
leg3ndZULO, so you have connectivity on wlan0 on the laptop?18:40
drcredboat: http://irc.twit.tv/18:41
phillyjMy built-in 5-in-1 card reader won't work anymore but it was working until update manager downloaded a bunch of files.18:41
phillyji tried lsusb and it is listed but when I put my xD or SD card in their slots, the light don't turn on and nothing happens18:41
phillyjWhat do I do? I can't find anything on google that can help me18:41
ZULOleg3nd, when i turn off eth0 i have internet, but when turn on i have access to router 1 and router 2 but without internet, not resolv18:41
phillyjx.D card not xD18:41
FactTechphillyj: Are you able to mount the drives manually?18:41
phillyjFactTech: How do I do that?18:42
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FactTechphilly: What distro are you using, regular Ubuntu?18:42
phillyjWUBI18:42
leg3ndZULO, hmmm.. i think i know the problem18:42
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FactTechphillyj: WUBI is a system for installing a distribution, not a distribution itself. I'm guessing regular Ubuntu. Try the Places menu.18:43
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phillyjFactTech: 11.0418:43
leg3ndZULO, go into the router 2   (not the internet gateway) and make sure you have DHCP turned off. I think that your 2nd router is stealing DHCP offers and giving out bogus DNS servers.18:43
ZenT510!11.04 | phillyj18:43
ubottuphillyj: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.18:43
phillyjoooh18:43
leg3ndZULO, really the 2nd router is only being used as a switch, and should only be using the 4 switch ports as well. not the internet port. (assuming its a crappy home router)18:44
ebbeHello! My wireless connection keeps dropping and does not reconnect automatically (even though it should, according to the setting). I'm using 10.04 and my chipset is Broadcom BCM4312. I have the latest proprietary driver up and running. My windows machine does not drop the connection. Suggestions?18:44
ZULOleg3nd, im usin rj45 ports18:44
leg3ndZULO, there all rj45 ports18:44
ZULOleg3nd, only 2 for my laptop and my desktop18:45
ZULOno more18:45
leg3ndZULO, okay, well considering your pinging around the LAN that doesnt really seem like the problem i was just pointing it out18:46
leg3ndZULO, the real problem sounds like conflicting DHCP servers on the 2 routers18:46
Dattebayodoes anyone know how cani run dat ?18:46
leg3ndZULO, so connect up through ethernet and pop in '192.68.2.1' into a web browser and disable DHCP (you may need to assign static addresses after)18:46
ZULOno leg3nd dhcp in router 2 has turned off18:47
ZULO*is turned off18:47
ZULOim going crazy with this..xd18:47
leg3ndZULO, then your dhclient SHOULD be pulling addresses from router 1 on the 192.168.1.0 subnet.18:48
leg3ndZULO, and you should have connectivity if you had it before via wireless18:48
MarkusTI'd love to "debootstrap" Ubuntu 10.04 on a LVM/RAID1 system (via a rescue system over SSH). I've create a logical volume for /boot and another volume for the rest of the install. How do I convince debootstrap to use those? It seems it expects a single partition?18:48
leg3ndMarkusT, No idea about debootstrap but you can create logical volumes with 'lvcreate' assuming your using LVM218:49
ZULOleg3nd, i have connectivity to router 1 via wireless but not have internet when turn on eth018:49
leg3ndMarkusT, http://readm3.org/os/ubuntu/full-disk-encryption-lvm-luks     this tutorial helped me alot when tackling lvm218:49
ZULOwithout eth0 i have internet without problems18:50
MarkusTleg3nd: I already created the  volumes.  I just need debootstrap to use them :-)18:50
leg3ndZULO, whats the IP for eth0?18:50
dejan_how can I check all users who are loged at my os?18:50
leg3ndMarkusT, ahhh sorry thats out of my league, never done it with raid before =\18:50
ZULOleg3nd,  192.168.2.2 and gateway 192.168.1.218:51
edbiandejan_, who18:51
leg3ndZULO, lol theres your problem18:51
itaylor57dejan_: w or who18:51
leg3ndZULO, your trying to connect to a gateway that is not in the same subnet18:51
dejan_why i have 2 users :S18:51
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dejan_dejan    tty7         2011-03-26 14:38 (:0)18:52
dejan_dejan    pts/0        2011-03-26 19:09 (:0.0)18:52
dejan_why is this it should be only 1 user18:52
intraderTactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, 'Module nvidia not found18:52
Guest46552when i click places > home folder, kino starts, how do i change this?18:52
winglessI'm facing a strange problem. There seems to be an invisible window on top of every other window which eats the mouse events... xwininfo doesn't really help and xkill doesn't seem to be able to kill it. xkill -id kills compiz... Any ideas?18:52
ZULOleg3nd, but if i use as gateway my wlan0 ip i have connection to both routers18:52
edbiandejan_, The tty7 is your graphical env.   the pts/0 is the terminal you have open18:52
Guest46552i want nautilus or something to start18:52
edbiandejan_, You're logged in twice. (perfectly normal)18:52
dejan_why i don't see apache18:52
leg3ndZULO, dhclient should correct it. if your using static you need to use these settings:  address: 192.168.1.3, gateway: 192.168.1.1, subnet mask 255.255.255.0, network 192.168.1.0, broadcast 192.168.1.25518:52
edbiandejan_, That is not a user18:52
dejan_apache is running but i don't see it18:53
dejan_it uses user18:53
dejan_called 'apache'18:53
edbiandejan_, Sorry, that is not a user logged in right now.18:53
dejan_hm ok..18:53
leg3ndZULO, your trying to make 2 subnets which isnt needed, that sounds like the real problem. Is there a reason for the 2 subnets?18:53
guitar431@dejan you could use the netsat command18:53
edbiandejan_, It is a process that has the permissions of the user 'apache' but it doesn't actually log in.18:53
dejan_just 1 more thing how to check all users on my o18:53
guitar431netstat18:53
dejan_os18:53
edbiandejan_, So it won't show up in who18:53
glitchdcan i upgrade to kernel 2.6.38 if im still running 10.04?18:53
edbiandejan_, Read the /etc/passwd file to see all the users18:53
dejan_ahm18:53
dejan_i see..18:53
dejan_but when I login i have to choose betwee my user and apache18:54
dejan_i think i made apache user im not sure18:54
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Dattebayocan anyone tell me how can i run .dat(VCD) files?18:54
ZULOleg3nd, i want share internet connection with 2nd subnet18:54
leg3nddejan_, the user is 'www-data' not apache18:54
guitar431@dejan netstat gives you all in and outgoing traffic18:54
ZULOleg3nd,  can i share this with only 1 net?18:54
leg3nddejan_, its probably a security issue using a custom user unless you really know what your doing in regard to GID UID and groups18:54
dejan_there is no passwd directory in etc18:54
dejan_okok its file18:55
giffglitchd, yes it's possiblem there's ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa18:55
leg3ndZULO, do you need more then 255 addresses? I just dont see why you would need to with that topology18:55
ZULOno, i need only 2 addres more xd18:55
dejan_but when ubuntu starts i have optuon to choose from which user i login one is mine other is apache18:55
edbiandejan_, Get rid of the apache user.  You shouldn't have that.18:56
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dejan_how18:56
TTY_problemwith my "old" keyboard if I type "1" in gedit it works but if I type "1" in terminal it writes  "~1"      How do you explain this?18:56
nicofsHow can i set up vinagre via console?18:56
glitchdgiff, how would i get the ppa?18:56
dejan_if i delete it i will still be able to use apache?18:56
ikoniaTTY_problem: probably a difference keyboard map needed18:56
dejan_i have no idea of linux18:56
glitchdgiff, and do u know if its supports a pae extension?18:56
dejan_im total beginner :S18:56
dejan_how to delete apache user pls18:56
ikoniadejan_: why do you want to do that18:57
edbiandejan_, Yes.  Apache uses the www-data user (which it handles) a user named 'apache' is complete unnecessary18:57
leg3ndZULO, if your using NAT why dont you just change the mask on router 1 to something with more addresses18:57
MarkusTleg3nd: Nevermind, I figured it out. Just needed to mount /boot inside / on the mount point. :-)18:57
caimlas__dejan_, more than likely what you did was set a shell for the apache user. apache user should not have a shell.18:57
dejan_ikonia: if I don't need it18:57
ikoniadejan_: you need it to run apache18:57
leg3ndMarkusT, so the boot is encrypted too?18:57
caimlas__dejan_, I'm not 100% sure but I think ubuntu uses the same www-data user that debian does.18:57
edbiandejan_, http://www.ahinc.com/linux101/users.htm   Please try to google before asking18:57
dejan_someone told me to do that18:57
Dr_Willisdejan_:  odd.. gdm normally hides such users. ive never seen it show my apache user.18:57
dejan_:S18:57
caimlas__dejan_, so you shouldn't even need it, i don't think18:57
insulinahow can I see what version is my ubuntu ?18:57
dejan_maybe he hacked my os? :S18:57
dejan_omg18:57
dejan_look what ikonia says18:58
mrwesinsulina: from the terminal lsb_release -a18:58
dejan_i need that?18:58
leg3ndDr_Willis, thats becuase apache isnt the default user.. www-data is..18:58
caimlas__dejan_, um so did you give the other guy the user/pass?18:58
ikoniadejan_: what ?18:58
MarkusTleg3nd: I'm not working with encryption, I'm trying to set up a server with LVM/RAID to which I don't have physical access to.18:58
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edbianDr_Willis, Apache does not have a user named apache.  It has a user named www-data18:58
leg3ndMarkusT, ooooohhhhhh, god that makes alot more sense now lol18:58
dejan_i think i have added it18:58
dejan_manually18:59
dejan_someone told me18:59
giffglitchd, no idea about pae, can't you use 64bit? here's a tutorial http://ubuntuguide.net/install-latest-kernel-2-6-37-2-6-38-in-ubuntu-10-04-from-ppa18:59
dejan_maybe he hacked my os18:59
Dr_Willisdejan_: or you are being paranoid.18:59
Randy105I installed Lemon pos and cna not get it to work I get a database error any Ideas18:59
dejan_so now should i delete apache user?18:59
leg3nddejan_, yes defenitly18:59
glitchdgiff, i have tried 64 bit, i dont like it18:59
leg3nddejan_, userdel apache18:59
Dr_Willisdejan_:  if you added a user. you can use rmuser or deluser or userdelete to remove it. i recall.18:59
caimlas__ikonia, dejan_ are you sure ubuntu uses the 'apache' user?18:59
glitchdgiff, it never wants to work correctly for me18:59
edbiandejan_, Or the gui.  Please try something before asking us here.18:59
glitchdgiff, neither has and version past 10.0418:59
ikoniacaimlas__: no, it uses a user account called www-data, but you need "an" account to control apache18:59
dejan_dejan    tty7         2011-03-26 14:38 (:0)18:59
dejan_dejan    pts/0        2011-03-26 19:09 (:0.0)18:59
dejan_why is this18:59
dejan_wait18:59
glitchdgiff, so im sticking with what works19:00
dejan_wait19:00
FloodBot3dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:00
ikoniadejan_: sudo userdel -r apache19:00
edbiancaimlas__, ikonia dejan_ Ubuntu does not use an apache user.  apache uses www-data19:00
dejan_why error?19:00
ikoniaedbian: I know this19:00
caimlas__edbian, that's what I thought.19:00
vanillaslicehello19:00
caimlas__don't think i've seen an apache user in a number of years on any distro19:00
vanillaslicecan someone tell me how to delete applications?19:00
vanillaslicei have used apt-get to install something19:00
Dr_Willisvanillaslice:  sudo apt-get remove pacakgename19:01
Dr_Willis!apt | vanillaslice19:01
ubottuvanillaslice: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)19:01
vanillaslicethanks Dr_Willis19:01
dejan_[sudo] password for dejan:19:01
edbianvanillaslice, apt-get purge to remove settings as well19:01
dejan_userdel: user apache is currently logged in19:01
intraderTactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, I have the 10.10 Dektop iso bootable19:01
dejan_im sure someone hacked my server :S19:01
giffglitchd, you should probably report a bug on your issues, 64bit works pretty fine these days with almost all hardware and software19:01
dejan_but when i type who there isn't user apache19:01
dejan_..19:01
ikoniadejan_: ok, then you need to re-install the OS19:01
dejan_maybe he is hiding?19:01
Dr_Willisdejan_:  or you are being paranoid.. if you want to be 100% safe.. reinstall.19:01
guitar431@dejan type in a shell "netstat -a -v -n 5 > logdatei.txt" and paste the file to pastebin and give us the link19:01
ebbeBump: My wireless connection keeps dropping and does not reconnect (even though it should reconnect automatically according to the setting). I'm using 10.04 and Broadcom BCM4312. I checked that I have the latest proprietary driver up and running. The really strange thing is that my windows machine does not drop the connection. What could be the problem?19:01
ikoniadejan_: ps -ef | grep -i http put that in a pastebin19:01
edbiandejan_, Are you listening to us?  who shows users that are logged in.  Not all users total19:01
mrwesdejan_: if I ever thought my server was hacked, I'd reinstall the OS19:01
dejan_omg19:02
guitar431@dejan we can tell you after this if you are hacked19:02
vanillaslicethanks guys19:02
glitchdgiff, well im only talking from experience, i have given 64 bit a few chances, each time it has ended with me having to reinstall the whole os19:02
dejan_i will reinstall19:02
dejan_most def19:02
dejan_because i didn;t made swap19:02
dejan_:)19:02
FloodBot3dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:02
glitchdgiff, so like i said, im sticking with 32 bit19:02
ikoniaok, then we are done19:02
mrwesheh19:02
dejan_any good tutorial to install ubuntu 10.10 pls19:02
dejan_for total beginner to linux19:02
leg3ndlol, dejan_  swap isnt really a big deal honestly, and your probably not hacked...19:02
ikonia!install | dejan_19:02
ubottudejan_: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate19:02
dejan_i need tutorial for beginner to make swap too19:02
dejan_i have no idea what is swap19:02
intraderTactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, I have a broken nvidia kernel module - I have reinstalled, but does not work; boots to a text terminal. I have the 10.10 Dektop iso bootable19:02
leg3nddejan_, if you have NAT, your probably fine.19:02
glitchddejan_, i would think u just install it like any other distro19:02
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ikonialeg3nd: nat does not mean he's fine19:03
glitchddejan_, boot from cd and go from there following the on-screen prompts19:03
Dr_Willisdejan_:  you may want to spend some time learning linux basics then - befor messing with apache.19:03
leg3ndikonia, i highly doubt he got owned with a reverse tcp payload..19:03
dejan_edbian19:03
dejan_see this19:03
ikonialeg3nd: he did if he gave someone an account19:03
dejan_edbian:  [sudo] password for dejan:19:03
dejan_userdel: user apache is currently logged in19:03
FloodBot3dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:03
Dr_Willisdejan_:  and the default install setup makes a swap partition.19:03
Dr_Willisdejan_:  so log the apache user off.19:03
dejan_i cant delete apache user19:03
dejan_it says it is loged in19:03
nickkontoshello, my ubuntu 10.10 desktop installation doesn't boot up, after grub loads and i select any kernel, it cannot mount / (s to skip or m to manual) I got this after booting with a xubuntu live cd and hard reseting my machine instead of rebooting normaly... please help!19:03
dejan_but can't look with whi19:03
dejan_who*19:03
FloodBot3dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:04
ikoniadejan_: show me the output of "ps -ef | grep -i apache" in a pastebin please19:04
leg3nddejan_, just pastebin netstat -antp and ill tell you if your hacked, its really not hard.19:04
Dr_Willisdejan_:  reboot to single user/recovery mode and remove the user perhaps.19:04
edbiandejan_, sudo who19:04
edbian?19:04
edbiandejan_, It is very strange that you can't see the user.19:04
dejan_pls any tutorial about swap19:05
ikoniadejan_: stop19:05
dejan_i want swap on other partition as I have read is best solution?19:05
ikoniadejan_: show me the output of "ps -ef | grep apache" in a pastebin19:05
ikoniastop19:05
Dr_Willisnickkontos:  try booting a live cd and fscking the filesystems perhaps.19:05
ikoniadejan_: show me the output of "ps -ef | grep apache" in a pastebin19:05
FloodBot3ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:05
dejan_also please advise be how much space should I put for the swap?19:05
dejan_and also what filesystem to install19:05
Dr_Willisdejan_:  swap by default is on its own partition. Unless you set it up otherwise19:05
ikoniadejan_: show me the output of "ps -ef | grep apache" in a pastebin19:05
Dr_Willisdejan_:  swap is its own filesystem also.  the 'swap' filesystem. chedk your 'sudo fdisk -l' output.19:06
dejan_ikonia: now19:06
Miri28Hello, Does it possible to surf Internet via Iphone internet on Ubuntu ?19:06
ikoniadejan_: yes19:06
ikoniadejan_: use a pastebin19:06
corambolinohello19:06
gechmogIf I rename a filesystem in /media/ with the 'mv' command, will that mess anything up? As in will I still be able to access that and not have to remount it or anything?19:06
ikoniaMiri28: 4.3 ios makes a wirless hotspot19:06
urupicadoes anyone know in which file the wifi password is stored?19:06
ikoniagechmog: that is a bad idea19:06
guitar431exactly, netstat gives you all open connections so there is no need to fuck off through paranoia19:06
leg3ndikonia, dejan_ , you guys are right the user should be deleted, but if your worried about a compromised system, you need to stop the service and close the port, the user can be dealt with ater.19:06
Dr_WillisMiri28:  check out how to 'teather' your iphone. thats the feature used to let pcs and other things to the internet throught ht phone.,.19:06
spyzerhi everyone i do not have a xorg.conf thought i have a hd radeon on my laptop. Do i need to create one in order to harness the full power of my gpu??19:07
ikonialeg3nd: I fully understand that, hence why I want to know if the user is running a process, stopping the account beeing deleted19:07
oCeanguitar431: mind the language please19:07
gechmogikonia: ah, I thought as much. :(19:07
nickkontosDr_Willis, im online from the same xubuntu disk, how to fsck?19:07
guitar431:)19:07
Dr_Willisnickkontos:  the 'fsck' command.19:07
kb_problemhi again19:07
ikoniagechmog: I'm not laughing,19:07
Dr_Willis!fsck19:07
ubottufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot19:07
ikoniaoops19:07
nicofsI need help setting up vinagre/vnc on a server i can only access via console... please, can someone help?19:07
vanillasliceokso i inustalled pure-ftpd-common, whic has compelted. but when i try to reinstall it gives me a message: pure-ftpd-common is already the newest version19:07
corambolinois information about hack lcd TV ?19:07
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vanillasliceis there a trace of this somewhere?19:07
ikoniacorambolino: no19:07
ikoniavanillaslice: trace of what ?19:08
spyzerumm is that an out of ubuntu question??19:08
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Dr_Willisnicofs:  install some vnc service. configure it to run what desktop you want., set up a ssh tunnel if its over the internet. (no need on a local lan) and connect.19:08
intraderI have a broken nvidia kernel module - I have reinstalled, but does not work; boots to a text terminal. I have the 10.10 Dektop iso bootable19:08
vanillasliceikoniaL this ftp server ... it seems to think it is still installed19:08
Maluanyone know how to get to play wmv movie files in ubuntu ?19:08
ikoniavanillaslice: open the package manager, search for pure-ftp mark it for uninstall19:08
leg3nddejan_, its debatable, how much RAM do you have?19:08
ZenT510!codecs | Malu19:08
ubottuMalu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats19:08
vanillasliceikonia: this is on a VPS, so command line only19:08
nicofsDr_Willis, i installed vinagre - but how do i set it up via console?19:09
ikoniavanillaslice: ok, use dpkg19:09
spyzeranybody??19:09
leg3nddejan_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq19:09
glitchdi read that kernel 2.6.38 brings a huge performance boost, can anyone confirm this?19:09
vanillaslicecheers ikonia19:09
leg3nddejan_, google if your friend19:09
Dr_Willisnicofs:  I dont think you want to use that one.. that one only shares teh current desktop. its limited.19:09
ikoniadejan_: forget swap19:09
edbianglitchd, Sure can.19:09
ikoniadejan_: focus on what you're doing, give me the output of "ps -ef | grep apache"19:09
gechmogikonia: is there anyway you know of to rename a filesystem safely and easily?19:09
Dr_Willisnicofs:  stick to tightvnc, or vnc4server or some other vncserver you can configure easially.19:09
spyzerhi everyone i do not have a xorg.conf thought i have a hd radeon on my laptop. Do i need to create one in order to harness the full power of my gpu??19:09
ikoniagechmog: you can rename any file system, however /media is used by auto mounter, so renaming that one is a bad idea19:09
nicofsDr_Willis, ok... i'll try...19:10
leg3ndikonia, you do knwo thats not even going to give you the port..19:10
ikoniaspyzer: yes, you will need to make one19:10
ikonialeg3nd: I don't want the port19:10
glitchdedbian, how big of a performance increase does it bring?19:10
Maluty for the help :D19:10
spyzerikonia: so will the default one have the necessary options19:10
Dr_Willisnicofs:  you could just ssh -X remotebox, and run an app. and not use vnc at all. this just shows a single app locally. not a whole desktop19:10
leg3ndikonia, netstat  or a nmap -p1-65535 is more suited for defensive security.19:10
ikoniaspyzer: no19:10
spyzeror do i need to add the options too19:10
glitchdedbian, is it really noticeable? meaning is it worth it to upgrade my kernel?19:10
ikonialeg3nd: I'm not interested in any of that, I want to know if the user is running a process19:10
RussellAlanCan anyone help me with install of Heimdall for ubuntu 10.10?19:10
Darxus"W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-security/main/source/Sources.gz  Hash Sum mismatch19:10
gechmogikonia: thank you very for the info, I didn't know that xD19:10
Darxus, E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead."19:10
nickkontosDr_Willis, running it right now :D it has found many problems... is that good?19:11
edbianglitchd, It increases responsiveness under very heavy load.19:11
ikoniaDarxus: what mirror are you using19:11
glitchdedbian, ok19:11
kb_problemHow do I set Ubuntu to search hidden files/folders by default? I don't want to click "select more options" everytime.19:11
Darxusikonia: That looks like I'm using the main one?19:11
ikoniaDarxus: what "main one", what repo are you using19:11
glitchdedbian, also do u know if there are pae headers that can be installed on it because i have 8 gigs of ram and thats the only way i can use them with a 32 bit install19:11
RussellAlanCan anyone help me with install of Heimdall for ubuntu 10.10?19:12
edbianglitchd, I tried to find some info about it.  All I could find is some short alternative that does the same thing.19:12
ikoniaglitchd: do not update your ubuntu machine to that kernel19:12
dejan_I am sorry19:12
Darxusikonia: host is returning 91.189.92.167 and 91.189.92.166.19:12
glitchdikonia, whys that?19:12
dejan_my os freezed19:12
edbianglitchd, Why not use the 64 bit version of Ubuntu?  (11.04 will have the magic 200 line patch BTW)19:12
dejan_ikonia: can you please write that command19:12
glitchdedbian, and what are those?19:12
ikoniaDarxus: I'm not asking you for host, I'm asking you for the name of the host19:12
lefty__Ook I need help putting Ubuntu on my Computer19:12
dejan_ikonia: for apache user19:12
ikoniadejan_: ps -ef | grep apache19:12
edbianglitchd, What are what?19:12
glitchdedbian, i just dont like 64 bit ubuntu19:12
lefty__I need help putting Ubuntu on my Computer19:13
glitchdedbian, the alternatives u spoke of19:13
Darxusikonia: How would it be different from the one in the url I pasted?19:13
oCeankb_problem: you can set that using gconf-editor19:13
ikoniaDarxus: give me the name of the host you are using if you want help, if not - stop talking19:13
leg3ndikonia, if you want to kill processes for a user just use pkill, why compicate things.19:13
dejan_ikonia: http://pastebin.com/AHHU99b019:13
edbianglitchd, Here's a whole thread about it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13562/how-do-we-get-this-magic-performance-boosting-200-line-patch19:13
ikonialeg3nd: I don't want to kill anything, for the last time, I want to know what's running19:13
leg3nddejan_, just run 'pkill -u apache && userdel apache'19:13
leg3ndikonia, yea pkill does that for you19:13
dejan_ikonia: before freezing it were more apaches19:13
ZenT510!install | lefty__19:13
ubottulefty__: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate19:13
ikoniano it won't19:13
Darxusikonia: I'm pretty sure I already answered your question.19:14
Dr_Willisuserdel has a --force option. :)19:14
intraderI have a broken nvidia kernel module - I have reinstalled the nvidiia, but does not work; boots to a text terminal. I have the 10.10 Dektop iso bootable , please help19:14
DarxusIn the first line I said.19:14
ikonialeg3nd: I don't want to kill anything19:14
dejan_i am hacked?19:14
dejan_http://pastebin.com/AHHU99b019:14
christopher_ikonia, use Windows I am about to format for Windows Ubuntu has some major issues19:14
tbwshey guys, nginx seems to be blocking my application update and upgrade functionality, is there anyway to solve this that's not at an application controled level?new and experimental stuff I can just do at home19:14
dejan_i am sure someome hacked me19:14
tbwshttp://pastebin.com/1asqJPh219:14
leg3nddejan_, no you just have alot of crap19:14
lefty__I have netbook19:14
christopher_everything is slow and buggy19:14
ikoniadejan_: you can't remove the apache user as the "apache" user is currently running an apache2 webserver19:14
ikoniadejan_: it is just a non-standard setup19:14
dejan_becasue whe i tried to del user apache it says user is loged in cant delete but when i type who there is no user apache loged in/19:14
christopher_like nothing works properly, brasero just wonr start19:14
edbiandejan_, That is normal.  Apache uses multiple processes to increase performance19:14
leg3nddejan_, this is what you need to do to correct your problem19:14
ikoniadejan_: the user is in use running the apache webserver, so that's why you can't delete it19:15
leg3nddejan_, chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/       /etc/init.d/apache2 stop   userdel --force apache19:15
edbianikonia, apache does not use an apache user.  It uses a www-data user19:15
ikonialeg3nd: stop19:15
dejan_why i can't see it with who19:15
ikoniadejan_: do not do that19:15
erUSULtbws: how it is blocking it?19:15
ikonialeg3nd: you don't know how his machine is setup,19:15
zetyuhello19:15
christopher_fuck Ubuntu and fuck all of you, some of you have been awesome to me but nothing works the way it should, I suggest work on making it stable rather than making a new unity BS thing19:15
dejan_pl19:15
dejan_ok19:15
leg3ndikonia, iv been here for an hour, i do.19:15
kb_problemoCean: do you know the path for it?19:15
ikonialeg3nd: so ?19:15
dejan_ikonia: i wil lreinstall the os19:15
zetyuwhy postfix not available19:15
leg3ndikonia, he added a user with  G/UID around 1k.. chowned -R www/19:16
zetyu i can't install it19:16
erUSULzetyu: it is19:16
leg3ndikonia, and restarted the service19:16
ikoniadejan_: if you feel you have to - that's fine, but I do not believe you have to19:16
erUSUL!info postfix19:16
ubottupostfix (source: postfix): High-performance mail transport agent. In component main, is optional. Version 2.7.1-1 (maverick), package size 1287 kB, installed size 3196 kB19:16
tbwserUSUL: won't perform any of the install's or upgrades i'm currently trying to make because of that error (currently running ludic btw)19:16
dejan_pls any good guide for making swap file and filesystem because i am total beginner to linux19:16
leg3ndikonia, so correct the user ownership, and delete the uneeded user.19:16
tbws*lucid19:16
ikonialeg3nd: why ? there is not a problem19:16
zetyuit is not wavailble19:16
lefty__I'm trying to get 10.10 netbook iso to install i put on my USB but it isnt booting19:16
oCeankb_problem: 1 moment19:16
edbianleg3nd, When he tries to delete the user 'apache' there is an error that apache is logged in19:16
erUSULtbws: what error ?19:16
Dr_Williszetyu:  update/upgrade  the pacakge listings. and try reinstalling it.19:16
leg3ndikonia, apache with G/UID of ~1001, thats a problem.19:16
edbianleg3nd, Please follow the discussion19:16
ikoniaedbian: because it's running a webserver19:16
ikonialeg3nd: why is that a problem19:16
leg3ndedbian, read more, i said kill apache19:16
zetyuyes done19:16
oCeankb_problem: desktop > gnome > file_views, then show_hidden_files19:17
edbianikonia, No, apache is not a user that apache uses19:17
kb_problemoCean: I found it19:17
kb_problemoh19:17
tbwserUSUL: http://pastebin.com/1asqJPh219:17
dejan_cmon dont fight :)19:17
zetyui upgrade and update19:17
edbianleg3nd, apache does not use an apache user19:17
leg3ndikonia, becuase thats too much power for a web server, its a security issue.19:17
zetyubut can't find my package19:17
ikoniaedbian: on his machien it IS19:17
ikoniaedbian: on his machine, it DOES19:17
kb_problemoCean: no thats not what I want. :P it'sfor  earch19:17
leg3ndedbian, yea he added it, apache uses www-data.19:17
ikonialeg3nd: don't talk nonsense19:17
Goliath is jack 2 a superset of jack?19:17
dejan_someone told me to make the user i think he hacked me19:17
lefty__I'm trying to get 10.10 netbook iso to install i put on my USB but it isnt booting19:17
ikonialeg3nd: the uid doesn't matter as long as it's not 019:17
leg3ndikonia, nonsense?19:17
zetyuapt-get install postfix19:17
Dr_Willisdejan_:  making a user is not 'getting hacked'  and there was no need to make such a user.19:17
dejan_guys guys19:17
leg3ndikonia, yea so when i compromise it i can compile programs and exploit the linux kernel, pro security bro.19:18
dejan_someone told me to make it19:18
ikoniaI'll leave you to bumble through his mess,19:18
zetyuis it correct the package name ?19:18
glitchdedbian, so in your opinion, is it enough of a performance boost to upgrade my kernel to 2.6.38?19:18
dejan_and to write bunch of commands19:18
edbianikonia, leg3nd I understand.  sorry!19:18
Dr_Willisdejan_:  and  the command.. userdel has a --force option. :)19:18
edbianglitchd, No.  I would just wait for Ubuntu 11.0419:18
ikonialeg3nd: no you can't19:18
erUSULtbws: you are using a ppa for nginx? looks like a bad packaged nginx in that repo19:18
dejan_pls any good guide to making swap and filesydtem i am total beginner to linux19:18
rooksi want to do audio RTSP stream. preferably fed with pulse-what-you-hear stream, or existing wma/aac stream. did anyone managed to get it up and running, if so - how?19:18
glitchdedbian, ok thx19:18
Dr_Willisdejan_:  now lots of 'commands' can be a proboem.. You may just want to reinstall.. since we have no idea what else you may have done.19:18
edbianglitchd, Just my opinion though :)19:18
leg3ndikonia, im a penteser for 6 years, what do i know about web server permissions.19:18
ZenT510!swap | dejan_19:18
tbwserUSUL: fair enough, is there a way to remove it?19:18
ubottudejan_: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info19:18
ikonialeg3nd: not much by the looks of it19:18
Dr_Willisdejan_:  the default install setup - makes a swap partition.19:18
stitteldejan_: It is not really the best idea to "type in a bunch of commands" which "somebody told you to enter" without having a clue what these commands really do.19:18
guitar431@dejan attempts to log on to ubuntu are logged you could check it there if you are hacked19:19
erUSULtbws: if you really want to intall you can force it19:19
leg3ndikoniac, www-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/bin/sh19:19
mydoghaswormsCan upstart be used to monitor and respawn processes run for a user, e.g. let's say I use Gnome DO and want to ensure that it is respawned if it dies.19:19
dejan_any sugestio about how big should be swap ?19:19
dejan_and on other partition?19:19
Goliathis jack 2 a superset of jack?19:19
leg3ndikonia, its G/UID is 33 and not 1000 for a reason.19:19
dejan_for best performance19:19
glitchdedbian, fer sure, thx. although, im not sure if ill be willing to leave 10.0419:19
Dr_Willisdejan_:  depends on your ram and system. and needs.19:19
kb_problemoCean: I found the setting: /apps/gnome-search-tool/show_additional_options19:19
ikonialeg3nd: so ?19:19
jack_^pong19:19
greppydejan_: how much ram do you have?19:19
Dr_Willisdejan_:  and if its a laptop/desktop/19:19
ikonialeg3nd: no it's not it's just a reserved range19:19
stittelguitar431: If he is really hacked (an idea I find kinda ridiculous to be frank), the...em... "hacker" could just modifiy those logs, too.19:19
intraderI have a broken nvidia kernel module - I have reinstalled the nvidiia, but does not work; boots to a text terminal. I have the 10.10 Dektop iso bootable , please help. I am able to boot to previous kernel.19:19
oCeanguitar431: the guy is not 'hacked'19:19
erUSULtbws: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/nginx-common_0.8.54-4ppa17~lucid_all.deb19:19
ikoniaI'm out19:19
oCeankb_problem: ah, ok.19:20
leg3ndikonia, it will FUNCTION, but its not SECURE.19:20
dejan_1 gb19:20
guitar431@stittel that might be true :)19:20
* oCean admires ikonia's perseverance19:20
dejan_but i want best performance19:20
dejan_i don't need space19:20
Dr_Willisdejan_:  if you got the hd space.. make 2gb of swap then.19:20
dejan_on hdd19:20
ikonialeg3nd: sure sure, whatever,19:20
dejan_laptop19:20
lefty__.....................19:20
greppydejan_: I would go with either 512 or 1gb of swap, depending on what you plan on doing with it.19:20
dejan_i have core 2 duo19:20
dejan_my procesor is ultimate but ram only 1 gb19:20
ZenT510ikonia: you tried your best, hold your head up high :)19:20
dejan_always procesor gets ahead of ram19:20
Dr_Willisdejan_:  the 'free' command will tell you how much swap you got and are using right now also.19:21
drcdejan_: Conventional wisdom is SWAP = 2xRAM19:21
erUSULtbws: done?19:21
dejan_ok but swap on other partition19:21
intraderAnyone, I have a broken nvidia kernel module - I have reinstalled the nvidiia, but does not work; boots to a text terminal. I have the 10.10 Dektop iso bootable , please help. I am able to boot to previous kernel.19:21
dejan_so i make partition and I place only swap on that partition?19:21
dejan_oh19:21
Dr_Willisdejan_:  swap by default IS on a different PARTITION.19:21
dejan_I have no diea how to d othis :S19:21
stitteldejan_: With 1 GiB of RAM, I would make 1 or 2 GiB of swap (probably more like 2 GiB). Making more swap than 2 GiB however, will make your system slow if more than 3 GiB of memory is ever really needed.19:21
Dr_Willisdejan_:  how did you install anyway? check your sudo fdisk -l output. see where you rswap is now.19:21
jack_^intrader, is the nouveau module still loading?19:22
dejan_ok19:22
edbianstittel, I don't think too much swap ever makes the system slow does it?19:22
oCeandejan_: just start the installation, it will go through all the steps, including filesystem configuration19:22
dejan_i dont have swap19:22
dejan_:S19:22
dejan_i didnt made that19:22
Dattebayohow can i run .bin and .cue file without burning it on cd?19:22
dejan_I couldnt19:22
FloodBot3dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:22
Dr_Willisdejan_:  you spefiically told it not to?19:22
stitteldejan_: You also don't have to reinstall or repartition to create swap space, because you can just create a swap file on your current filesystem. If the swap file takes continuous space, there will be no performance penality for that (anymore).19:22
dejan_i need help for swap and filesystem19:22
dejan_Dr_Willis: i didnt knew how19:22
Dr_WillisDattebayo:   you dont 'run' them - you can mount them. and run whats on them.19:22
intraderjack_^, what is nouveau module?19:22
Dr_Willisdejan_:  the isntaller does it auytomatically...19:23
dejan_stittel: i will reinstall because of security issue19:23
stitteledbian: Too much swap will make your system slow if that swap is ever really used .19:23
Dr_Willisdejan_:  try the command --> sudo fdisk -l | grep swap19:23
jack_^intrader, its the nvidia module that comes with your ubuntu install19:23
dejan_about the filesystem19:23
dejan_what is best19:23
dejan_?19:23
edbianstittel, Please explain?  The size of a filesystem does not decrease it's performance.19:23
zetyucan't install posfix here is the pastebin : http://paste.ubuntu.com/585953/19:23
Dr_Willisexample -> my swap  partition -> /dev/sdb4           48509       48642     1063936   82  Linux swap / Solari19:23
Dr_Willisdejan_:  swap IS its own filesystem type.19:23
oCeandejan_:19:23
stitteledbian: Instead of having a slow system when you really need that big swap, you would just run out-of-memory with a smaller swap of course.19:23
oCeandejan_: no need to ask all specific questions here. Follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall19:24
Dattebayocan archive mounter mount it?19:24
drcdejan_: Is this a dualboot (window & Ubuntu) or only a ubuntu machine?19:24
dejan_ok i will read now19:24
dejan_only ubuntu19:24
Pumpkin-Dattebayo: its been a while, but I think you can get something called "cdemu" that will let you mount a virtual device for a .bin/.cue, or you can convert it to an .iso and mount that. I'd have a google for "cdemu" first.19:24
stitteledbian: I didn't say that: I said that using a swap file instead of a swap partition is not a problem performance-wise.19:24
intraderjack_^, my previous kernel image in grub still boots Ok. just the current one does not. Boots to text terminal19:24
oCeandejan_: the guide also explains about filesystems and swap19:24
dejan_i don't pln to install win ever again19:24
Dr_WillisDattebayo:  the fuseiso and fuseiso9660 tools can i tyhink. or you can convert it to a .iso then mount it otherways.19:24
dejan_except i will install ome v machines for web development testing19:24
jack_^intrader, ok. is the nouveau kernel module loaded?19:24
drcdejan_: I'd read what oCean gave you and ignore any other advise until you're read it19:25
dejan_ok19:25
dejan_i will ow19:25
guitar431windows is a good gaming console though19:25
Dr_Willis'reading is always good'19:25
ebbeMy wireless connection keeps dropping. I'm using 10.04 and my Windows machine does not drop the same wireless router. Apparently my 'chipset' is BCM4312 and I've check that I have the proprietary driver for it. What could be going on?19:25
stitteledbian: Simpilified explanation of why too much swap can slow down the system if it is actually used: The CPU can actually only compute stuff that has been loaded to its registers. Now since registers are small, you have a memory hiearchy beneath it, like CPU cache, RAM or swap space.19:25
zetyuhello thzete19:25
zetyucan't install posfix here is the pastebin : http://paste.ubuntu.com/585953/19:25
edbianstittel, We talked about this earlier today. I think that the swap file is probably slower but the FS and Linux kernel are good enough schedulers that the user percieved latency is probably 0.  Do you agree with this?19:26
intraderjack_^, I am confused, I am now talking from a windows machine running chatzilla. The ubuntu machine can be rebooted to the prior kernel image19:26
jack_^intrader, then do that.19:26
stitteledbian: Why do you think the swap file is slower? Newer kernels should just memorize the sectors of the continous swap file and directly access it without file system calls.19:26
Dr_Willisedbian:  from what i recall - a swap file can be slower.. but these days.. swap is not used that much anyway. so its not a big issue. You can add a swap partition later  and use both.19:26
jack_^intrader, if the nouveau module is being loaded in the new kernel, it will conflict with the nvidia module19:27
asiekierkaquestion19:27
asiekierkai'm booting ubuntu from an usb drive on a packard bell laptop19:27
jack_^intrader, also, check Xorg.1.log to see if it has a problem19:27
asiekierkabut, the loading screen crashed19:27
asiekierkais there a way to open the console up19:27
Dr_Willisasiekierka:  and whats your video chipset?19:27
edbianstittel, The amount of swap does not determine how many things the computer is trying to do at once.  So if the swap is bigger the performance will not decrease.  If the user starts running many many programs at once.  Then the system will slow down regardless of swap size.19:27
asiekierkaDr_Willis: idunno, the computer is 500km away19:27
asiekierkai only know it's a Packard Bell KMM0019:27
Dr_Willisasiekierka:  and how are you seeing its loading screen?19:27
stitteledbian: Now the idea is to "get the stuff you want to compute" as fast/efficiently to your CPU registers. For that memory pages get pushed/removed to the registers, CPU cache, main memory or swap space.19:28
intraderjack_^, I would like to boot by default to an image that works. What is this about the nouveau conflicting; It I boot the top kernel it fails on the nvidia19:28
dejan_oCean: there isnt guide for swap and filesystem :S19:28
asiekierkaDr_Willis: in nice graphical quality19:28
dejan_ah ok i got for swap19:28
asiekierkanow it turned off by itself19:28
jack_^intrader, then use the older kernel.19:28
dejan_but for filessytem?19:28
asiekierkao_o19:28
marsflighthow to make default eth1 instead than eth0?  Thanks19:28
oCeandejan_: it is all there19:28
edbianstittel, Swap file is a swap filesystem on top of an (e.g. ext4 filesystem) so you have double filesystem calls which will be a very small decrease in performance which is not noticeable to the user.19:28
Dr_Willisasiekierka:  you have us totally confused now...  You are runnign  some remote-desktop to watch a system install?19:28
intraderjack_^, how do I tell grub to load the working one by default?19:28
kb_problemmarsflight: why do you want that?19:28
Dr_Willisdejan_:  the filesystem for a swap partitin is the 'swap' filesystem.19:28
edbianstittel, But if swap is bigger that doesn't make it take longer to get things in and out of swap.19:29
jack_^intrader, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub219:29
asiekierkaDr_Willis19:29
asiekierkanonono19:29
stitteledbian: Now if you have a moderate swap to RAM ratio, most stuff needed to travel up the memory hiearchy in the next time will be in the quite fast RAM and stuff unneeded for travelling up the hierachy will be in swap and hopefully when the stuff is needed from swap, it will be copied back to RAM in time.19:29
asiekierkait works like this19:29
Dr_Willisdejan_:  'mkswap /dev/sdxx'   its its own special filesystem.19:29
mohamedhey i format my lap now i want genral orders for ubuntu 10.1019:29
asiekierkai contact the computer owners via Skype19:29
asiekierkawho pointed their netbook's webcam19:29
asiekierkato the notebook i'm trying to get Ubuntu running on19:29
asiekierkaas the netbook has no CD/DVD drive19:29
asiekierkai can't do the sane thing, that is burn it on a disc19:29
ZenT510!enter | asiekierka19:29
stitteledbian: Now you have a big swap and stuff that is supposed to travel up the memory hiearchy comes directly from the very slow swap space. In that case your CPU needs to wait a long time for the necessary data to appear in its registers and the system becomes slow.19:29
ubottuasiekierka: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!19:29
asiekierkathey're 500-600 kilometres away so i can't get it there either19:30
Dr_Willisasiekierka:  so the question still remains.. what video chipset is the laptop using?19:30
asiekierkaDr_Willis hmm19:30
quiescenso.O19:30
marsflighthow to make default eth1 instead than eth0?  Thanks19:30
dejan_uh there isn't aything about how to make swap partition :(19:30
edbianstittel, Everything will fit in ram if ram is big enough.  Nothing will change if swap size is changed19:30
stitteledbian: As I said: A bigger swap is not a problem as long as it is not really used. If you have 2 GiB of swap space or 4 GiB of swap space doesn't make a difference if you only really use 1 GiB of that swap space.19:30
oCeandejan_: YES19:30
asiekierkaI seriously have no idea19:30
kb_problemmarsflight: type /etc/network/interfaces19:30
Dr_Willisasiekierka:  there is a 'nomodeset' option i have to use for my various nvidia chipset laptops to get them to boto properly19:30
edbianstittel, Just because swap is big does not mean that the kernel will take things out of ram.19:30
kb_problemmarsflight: type cat /etc/network/interfaces19:30
asiekierkaokay, i'll try that19:30
oCeandejan_: in the screenshot at step 5 and 619:30
stitteledbian: However, if you have 1 GiB of RAM and 4 GiB of swap space and these 4 GiB of swap space are actually used, than it will become slow for the reasons I just explained to you.19:31
dejan_i am looking this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq19:31
oCeandejan_: WHY19:31
guitar431what is swapspace?19:31
oCeandejan_: I gave you de URL to install19:31
dejan_sec19:31
Dr_Willisasiekierka:  during the bootup. theres a little man/logo at the bottom. hit the space key, to get to extra options, then under the F6 options, theres a nomodeset option.19:31
oCeandejan_: you REALLY don't want to listen, correct?19:31
kb_problem!swap | guitar43119:31
ubottuguitar431: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info19:31
quiescensif 4gb if swap wants to be used and you only have 2gb it only faster because the system will be killing processes to make more memory available19:31
guitar431is swap space like this virtual memory stuff  on windows19:31
stitteledbian: Say you have 1 GiB of RAM and 4 GiB of swap space and 4.5 GiB of memory demand. What else should the kernel do but put 3.5 GiB of stuff in swap space?19:31
edbianstittel, The kernel does not put things in swap more often if swap is bigger.  It puts things in swap if there is no more room in ram.  Therefore you can have a swap that's 60Gb. The system won't be any slower.19:32
quiescensi don't know if that neccesarily means its better19:32
Dr_Willisguitar431:  done in a better way.. similer idea.19:32
Prettohey guys, is there a way to change the gvfsd mount point?19:32
guitar431okay thanks guys19:32
dejan_oCean: there is only about to make partitions manually19:32
=== debsan_ is now known as debsan
dejan_but how indeed to make partition maually19:32
dejan_i have 0 experience with it19:32
dejan_:19:32
dejan_:S19:32
FloodBot3dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:32
Dr_WillisPretto:  you could alwasys make a link to the location from somewhere else.. ie: link ~/GVFS to point to .gvfs19:32
ZenT510!gparted | dejan_19:32
ubottudejan_: gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php19:32
stitteledbian: You are talking about situations with a low memory demand, which are pretty irrelevant here. If my memory remand is low, indeed 60 GiB of swapspace won't hurt me, but also they won't be of any use.19:32
dejan_n o no19:32
dejan_i will install from live cd19:33
dejan_i will format my hdd19:33
asiekierkaDr_Willis i'll try it, ugh, gotta modify UNetBootin files19:33
oCeandejan_: do you really want advice?19:33
Dr_Willisdejan_:  use gparted. or use the installers tools to make the partition.19:33
dejan_myake 1 partition for the os other for swap19:33
oCeandejan_: or are you messing with us??19:33
dejan_pls guide me19:33
dejan_:)19:33
FloodBot3dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:33
leg3ndstittel, i think 60GB is a bit excessive lol19:33
edbianstittel, I think we just agreed.19:33
oCeandejan_: I send you the step-by-step guide19:33
PrettoDr_Willis: the problem is that the mount point is only visible for the user session19:33
dejan_oCean: no..19:33
stitteledbian: I am talking about the case where that swap space is actually used, because you don't need a big swap space for cases in which it is not used.19:33
oCeandejan_: you don't want to follow? Then you are on your own19:33
Dr_Willisasiekierka:  edit the syslinux.cfg file. add the 'nomodeset' option, and perhaps remove the 'quiet splash' options also.19:33
dejan_oCean: read what i wrote19:33
dejan_oCean: there is only about to make partitions manually19:33
oCeandejan_: no19:33
dejan_but how indeed to make partition maually19:33
ZenT510dejan_: you have been pointed to a guide several times19:33
dejan_i have 0 experience with it19:33
Dr_WillisPretto:  if a user is not loggeed in.. that makes s3ence. since its a gnome type service.19:34
dejan_..19:34
oCeandejan_: not true. Insert the install disk, and follow these steps19:34
edbianstittel, But if swap is big.  Meaning the swap partition is large and mostly empty)  There is no performance difference over when swap space is small (and mostly used)19:34
leg3nddejan_, just use gparted, you can install it with 'sudo apt-get -y install gparted'19:34
oCeandejan_: and you WILL end up with an installed and configured filesystem including swap19:34
stitteledbian: The question is: What will happen if a high memory demand occurs: Will the system run out of total memory and say "out of memory" or will it actually excute what you are trying to do by using a big, big swap and becoming very, very slow.19:34
dejan_oCean: but dude, there says make partitions maually19:34
dejan_there is easy to make partition?19:34
dejan_oh19:34
dejan_omg19:34
oCeandejan_: ok, figure it out yourself, goodbye19:34
PrettoDr_Willis: indeed, but if I started it without the gnome session?19:34
dejan_i know i will fail19:34
FloodBot3dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:34
edbianstittel, read what I wrote right before you said that19:34
Dr_Willisdejan_: gparted lets you make partitions all the time..19:34
stitteledbian: Again: Why do you want to talk about having a big swap space in cases where the big swap space is not used, because memory demand is low?19:34
asiekierkaDr_Willis ok, i'll let you know19:34
dejan_but then i wouldnt have smuxi to conect here to ask you..19:34
drcdejan_: Can I PM you?19:34
leg3nddejan_, gparted is pretty easy you should be fine, just be patient when its doing its thing.19:35
dejan_Dr_Willis: but i will reinstall os from live cd19:35
dejan_yes yes19:35
Dr_WillisPretto:  that wouldent make sence..  since its a user specific service.. what are you trying to acomplixh exactly?19:35
dejan_drc:  yes pls19:35
edbianstittel, Because I thought your original argument was about a large swap partition decreases performance.19:35
stitteledbian: To talk about a swap space size making sense or not, we have to consider that the swap space in question IS actually needed because of the memory demand.19:35
intraderjack_^, I am unable to see how to set grub to default to 2.6.35-27 insted of 2.6.35-28. When I edit grub it only gives me 2.6.35-28 as the only entry.19:35
nt23hi guys i need some help with awk and append i wrote my code here if someone can help me i am grateful my code is here http://pastebin.com/PMgRw3mP19:35
stitteledbian: A bad swap-to-RAM ration WILL decrease the performance, if the memory demand makes the system actually use the big swap space.19:35
PrettoDr_Willis: I want to use it instead of fstab entry19:35
jack_^intrader, add it19:35
edbianstittel, I agree with you.  As more swap is used performance decreases because the system has to move stuff in and out of ram.  The actual size of swap does not affect performance at all.  (unless you run out of swap space and ram)19:36
tbwserUSUL: thank you so much for your help, it's solved now19:36
Dr_WillisPretto:  thats not really a good way to do it.  what are you mointing exactly?19:36
stitteledbian: A smaller swap space in such a situation will of course not make everything more happy, it will make the system say "out of memory".19:36
erUSULtbws: no problem19:36
edbianstittel, No, the ratio of RAM to swap does not matter.  The size of RAM matters only.19:36
intraderjack_^, the grub menu already has it as the second entry19:36
tbwsHow would I go about instaling php 5.3.6 if it's not in the apt repository.19:36
Dr_Willistbws:  ppa or source -19:37
doodlenoxquick question - how do i send the video from laptop to tv in ubuntu - i have the svideo cable plugged in but not sure where to go to change the settings19:37
leg3ndtbws, google lol, you might be able to find a deb around. if not you gotta do it from source.19:37
leg3ndtbws, yea ppa might too19:37
jack_^intrader, if its not working on your newer kernel, then there is somethign wrong with the nvidia module. it either isn't loaded or nouveau is conflicting with it. if you just want to use the old kernel, you'll need to edit the grub configuration. i dont know anything about grub2 so you'll need to go through the documentation i linked and figure ito ut.19:37
stitteledbian: If the size of RAM matters for the swap space, we are talking about swap-to-RAM ratio. If we are not talking about that, for what do you think "RAM matters only" then?19:37
PrettoDr_Willis: just an sftp, but need it to be accessible to other users once it's mounted despite the user who did it19:37
Dr_Willisdoodlenox:  depends on yoru chipset. and if the laptop has special fn keys to toggle the tv out options.19:37
Dr_WillisPretto:  the sshfs command sounds like what you need to use.19:37
=== king is now known as Guest67182
edbianstittel, 4Gb of RAm and 50Mb of swap will be the same performance as 4Gb of ram and 100Gb of swap.  Different ratios, same performance.19:38
Guest67182kllkj19:38
PrettoDr_Willis: thank you19:38
doodlenoxDr Willis: its a del inspiron and it used to work perfectly with windows19:38
doodlenoxany ideas19:38
intraderjack_^, the problem started yesterday morning with an auto update.  The instructions for grub2 are confusing.19:38
doodlenoxis there not a video/display settings area19:38
Dr_Willisdoodlenox:  that dosent tell me what video chipset its using...  nvidia has the nvidia-config tools. ati has a similer tool. other chiopsets may just use syystem->admin-> monitors tool19:39
asiekierkaDr_Willis now i can see what's happening19:39
asiekierkaata1.00 exception, status: { DRDY ERR }19:39
asiekierkaon the main drive of the notebook19:39
hihihi100the list of commands written in my terminal is gone, how do I get to see the list again? I mean, when I press the up arrow, no command appears19:40
=== ocean_ is now known as Guest53808
NCS_Onehi19:40
edbianstittel, Agreed?19:40
Guest46552places -> home folder opens kino19:40
Guest46552help! please.19:40
stitteledbian: No, not same performance. If in case of 4 GiB RAM and 50 MiB of swap, you have a memory demand of 50 GiB, the system will not decrease performance, it will say "out of memory" and not even try to do the task. In case of 100 GiB swap it will try to do the task, but at a totally terrible performance.19:40
NCS_Onehow can I preview the fonts that I have installed? I want to change my xterm font.19:41
syrinx_stittel: what the heck could you possibly doing that demands 50gb of memory?19:41
Dr_Willisif it gets to the console/login screen.  Yoi could see if you can mount the hd. or check 'dmesg' command to look for other error messages.19:41
nt23can sameone help me to fix my code http://pastebin.com/PMgRw3mP19:41
stittelsyrinx_: Scientific calculations.19:41
syrinx_lol19:41
stittelsyrinx_: It's just an example anyways.19:41
extra11you can't even get 50gigs of mem without getting something custom built19:41
edbianstittel, You count not doing the task as performant?19:41
stittelextra11: It is an example to illustrate the meaning of swap-to-RAM ratio.19:42
extra11or buying lott of cheap computers and building a distributed network19:42
extra11stittel ahh19:42
stitteledbian: The rest of the tasks will stay performant. :)19:42
Dr_WillisGuest46552:  read up at --> https://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2010/12/07/ubuntu-location-launchers-error-how-to-reset-gnome-panel-places-menu-launchers-to-open-with-nautilus/19:42
edbianstittel, Alright.  technicality win though...19:42
doodlenoxdr willis: ATI Mobility RADEON 9000 is the name of the chipset on this laptop19:42
doodlenoxany ideas on19:42
doodlenoxthat19:42
Guest46552thank you Dr_Willis19:42
asiekierkaDr_Willis the problem IS with the HDD19:42
ibrahimhi, i have a problem in sound , sound has vanished from my computer while nothiung was muted19:42
asiekierkamaybe19:42
stitteledbian: The idea is this: Don't make your system try to handle tasks with a memory demand, that it is not efficiently able to handle by having too much swap space.19:42
asiekierkait has 2 partitions19:42
asiekierkaone is Packard Bell rescue stuff19:43
FloodBot3asiekierka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:43
Dr_Willisdoodlenox:  thats a start at least. :)  You may need to run the 'addational drivers' tool to install the fglrx drivers to enable tv out. I dont use ati much. so not sure whats needed.19:43
asiekierkaFloodBot3: I don't paste! I actually type that fast19:43
Logan_!enter | asiekierka19:43
ubottuasiekierka: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!19:43
syrinx_still flooding, keep it on one line19:43
asiekierkathat's better. :P... anyway, Windows 7 doesn't install on the drive19:43
intraderjack_^, I changed -28 to -27 in what the new grub gave me and it booted. Restart gets me back to bad kernel19:43
doodlenoxdr-willis : thank you.. i have just noticed that the screen is appearing on the tv now all of a sudden.. but its flickering constantly - any ideas19:43
Dr_Willisdoodlenox:  check cable. check plug.19:44
asiekierkait's either silly OEM BIOS protection or HDD issues19:44
ocean1hi, I'm new to ubuntu. I've face a problem today! is there anybody to help me?19:44
Dr_Willisive had way to many bad svideo cables/plugs19:44
jumpyjesterhello everyone very new to this thought i would say hello19:44
syrinx_!ask | ocean119:44
ubottuocean1: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)19:44
Dr_Willisdoodlenox:  dont get ntsc/pal messed up.19:44
asiekierkaocean1 gogogo19:44
edbianstittel, I knew that :)19:44
asiekierkaDr_Willis found the issue19:44
doodlenoxdr-willis.. how do i change that19:44
asiekierkaafter 2348348 tries of getting the ata drive to work19:44
asiekierkait just dies19:45
jumpyjesterocean1 what are you trying to do19:45
Dr_Willisdoodlenox:  check teh monitors setting tool.  or the ati specific tool if using ati.19:45
WallyIf I install ubuntu 11.04 a3  will I have to unistall it to install the beta or final release? or is it upgradable?19:45
edbianWally, upgradable19:45
Wallythanks19:45
Dr_WillisWally:  the abilituy to upgrade is core to apt system features. :)19:45
Jaroslavhi guys!19:45
Dr_WillisWally:  but I tend to do a total clean isntall aftger i beta test...19:45
WallyI figured so, but wanted to make sure19:45
asiekierkaDr_Willis it crashed about a minute ago at: [  356.068458] ata1: EH complete19:45
WallyYa.  I wanna do a clean install over my 10.0419:46
Dr_Willisasiekierka:  coule be a flakey hard drive. Its hard to tell.19:46
asiekierkaearlier it said something about SATA link and being configured for UDMA/100 and also19:46
sysop3hi19:46
asiekierkaDr_Willis that is the most likely reason19:46
ZenT510!11.04 | Wally19:46
ubottuWally: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.19:46
asiekierkaas i can't install Windows 7 on it due to a partition-related error19:46
asiekierkaeither19:46
JaroslavI'm looking for a driver for Intel GMA 500....19:46
sysop3how can I turn all my fans on to max?19:46
stillbourneI'm trying to make a remastered livecd with a vanilla kernel so I can get support for some newer hardware. I've patched the kernel with union fs support and rebuilt the inird. When I boot to the new iso though it doesnt get past the initramfs. Anyone familiar with building livecds?19:46
bbigrasWhat should I close a bug with if it's not happening anymore? invalid?19:46
Dattebayohow can i mount stuff with fuse?19:46
Dr_Willisasiekierka:  for most machines these days.. i remvoe the windows HD and put in a dedicated linux only HD. :)19:46
sysop3dont care how loud it is. I just need more cooling19:46
Guest46552is there some way to replace the line "inode/directory=kino.desktop;" with "inode/directory=nautilus-folder-handler.desktop;" in the file `/.local//share/applications/ mimeapps.list without  without opening the file?19:46
asiekierkaDr_Willis > laptop19:46
asiekierka> the user wants windows19:46
asiekierka> doesn't trust linux19:46
Dr_WillisDattebayo:  use teh proper fuse helper app. ie: 'fuseiso' or 'sshfs' or whatever spefcicl fuse fs you want to use.19:47
leg3ndsysop3, i think you need a fan controller, or mabey something with chronjob scripts (which i dont know)..19:47
asiekierka> well... my dad disapproves because he thinks linux is lolololshelllolololconsolelolololnerds19:47
Dr_Willisasiekierka:  so....  this is related to ubuntu how exactly?19:47
JaroslavAnybody could help me??19:47
asiekierkaDr_Willis in that i've been trying to boot Ubuntu to see what's the issue19:47
asiekierka._.19:47
sysop3been looking at fantontrol but cant get it configured19:47
syrinx_le sigh19:47
Dr_Willisasiekierka:   there are special 'rescue'  distros that may bave more tools to help you fix things.19:47
sysop3dotn want it to change the speed just make it run at max19:47
Guest46552from the command line i'd like to do something like: echo "inode/directory=nautilus-folder-handler.desktop;" > ~/.local//share/applications/ mimeapps.lis but i know that would just add the line to the bottom19:47
asiekierkaDr_Willis i just need gparted and cfdisk, Ubuntu has both19:47
Dattebayoi dont quite get it :D19:48
Dr_Willisasiekierka:  'system rescue' and 'gparted' live cd's are dedicated to that sort of task. would boot faster also.19:48
asiekierkaDr_Willis i'll try SystemRescueCD then, i guess19:48
Dr_WillisDattebayo:  hit the fuse homepage. and read up on how it works.. what do you want to access?19:48
Dr_Willisasiekierka:  suystem rescue cd./. is a19:48
asiekierkabut as it's a more kernel/driver error i don't expect any success19:48
hihihi100the list of commands written in my terminal is gone, how do I get to see the list again? I mean, when I press the up arrow, no command appears19:48
Dr_Willisasiekierka:  suystem rescue cd./. is a  Must have in your toolbox. :)19:48
ibrahimhi, i have a problem in sound , sound has vanished from my computer while nothiung was muted19:48
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Dattebayothere is .cue and bin file i dont want to write it i just want to run it19:49
Dr_Willishihihi100:  thasts the historuy buffer.. if its gone.. i imagine its gone.. try 'cat .history'19:49
Dattebayowrite means burn19:49
NCS_Onehow can I preview the fonts that I have installed? I want to change my xterm font.19:49
doodlenoxdr willis got it working thanky uoiu19:49
Dr_WillisDattebayo:  the fuseiso or fuseiso9660 commands i recall can use fuse. to mount  cue/bin files.19:49
famthegeek2how to install ubuntu 10.04 on a flash drive so that i can use it as a complete portable os?19:50
stillbourneI'm trying to make a remastered livecd with a vanilla kernel so I can get support for some newer hardware. I've patched the kernel with union fs support and rebuilt the inird. When I boot to the new iso though it doesnt get past the initramfs. Anyone familiar with building livecds?19:50
Dr_Willisfamthegeek2:  you can make a 'live cd' with presistant save.. or do a normal install . to a flash drive.. You decide.19:50
ZenT510!usb | famthegeek19:50
ubottufamthegeek: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent19:50
Pumpkin-NCS_One: X itself comes with "xfontsel". It is pretty oldschool, but it might do the job.19:50
Dattebayoit show helps page do i have to use option such as -p or -n?19:50
Dr_WillisDattebayo:  i imagien you need to give it the proepr options yes..19:51
NCS_OnePumpkin-: forgot about that one, thanks19:51
Dr_WillisDattebayo:  -p makes/deletes the mountpoint as needed.19:51
Dr_Willisfuseiso -p foo.iso  MOUNTPOINT19:52
hihihi100dr_willis, it seems it is gone, "history" just shows 14 commands, not the 250 or so that should be there... any suggestion to recover them, if possible?19:52
EmuAlertWhen you already have a checkbox selected, how to do tick it on or off?19:52
Dr_Willishihihi100:  not really.19:53
Dattebayowell it doesnt work with options im goin to install a visual program19:53
Dr_WillisDattebayo:  whats the exact command you are using?19:53
Dr_WillisDattebayo:  there are cue/bin -> iso converteres also.19:53
mdkessHow can I show CPU usage in the panel in 11.04? I can't seem to right click on it or anything.19:53
SwedeMikemdkess: #ubuntu+1 for 11.04.19:53
mdkessAh, cool19:53
Dattebayo fuseiso -p  ~/Documents/Games/Burn.Zombie.Burn-TiNYiSO/t-bzb/t-bzb.bin  this is19:54
terrymdkess: top19:54
Dr_Willismdkess:  seen this also -> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/system-monitor-indicator-puts-cpu-and.html19:54
j5_hi, is there a apt-get for firefox 4?19:54
Dr_WillisDattebayo:  you gave it no mountpoint. from what i see,.19:54
ebbeMy wireless connection keeps dropping. I'm using 10.04 and my Windows machine does not drop the same wireless router. Apparently my 'chipset' is BCM4312 and I've check that I have the proprietary driver for it. What could be going on?19:55
Dr_WillisDattebayo:  cd to where its at.. so you dont ahve to use such a long path/name also.. may help.19:55
Dattebayou mean i have to do it like this? fuse  -p  ~/path to the file  destination?19:55
=== leg3nd_ is now known as leg3nd
Dr_WillisDattebayo: fuseiso -p FILENAME  MOUNTPOINT19:56
ibrahimhi, i have a problem in sound , sound has vanished from my computer while nothiung was muted19:56
ahmed_r19:56
AbTuXI am using a package for some time for which .deb is not available so i had created one how can i submit it to main repository ?19:56
Dr_WillisUsage: fuseiso [-n] [-p] [-c <iocharset>] [-h] <isofs_image_file> <mount_point> [<FUSE library options>]19:56
Dattebayofuse: mountpoint is not empty19:57
Dattebayofuse: if you are sure this is safe, use the 'nonempty' mount option19:57
DattebayoCan`t delete mount point: Directory not empty19:57
ahmed_Is It possible to run Windows Powershell on Ubuntu?19:57
Dattebayoerror wiliams19:57
Dr_WillisDattebayo:  and what mountpoint did you use?19:57
icerootahmed_: maybe with wine19:57
stillbourneI'm trying to make a remastered livecd with a vanilla kernel so I can get support for some newer hardware. I've patched the kernel with union fs support and rebuilt the inird. When I boot to the new iso though it doesnt get past the initramfs. Anyone familiar with building livecds?19:57
Dattebayo/home/user19:57
laseckhej polaki19:57
ahmed_I have wine installed but how can i run powershell?19:58
icerootahmed_: but for what you need a "power" shell?19:58
ZenT510!pl | laseck19:58
ubottulaseck: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.19:58
AbTuXahmed_, why you want powershell in Ubuntu as you have complete shell? Also with wine it have some issues not fully functional19:58
silentz0rhello, I damaged the partition table of a drive with just 1 NTFS partition on it. Any ideas how to fix that?19:58
icerootahmed_: copy the powershell.exe from your windows and run it with wine19:58
Dr_WillisDattebayo:  you dont want the thing to mount OVER your home/user dir..  you want itt o show up in a dir IN /home/user19:58
Dr_WillisDattebayo:  ie: /home/Yourusername/PICKANAME19:58
JasonnHow do i install KLIPS support on ubuntu server?19:58
Dattebayotanx williams problem solved with FuriousISO :D19:59
alabdGood day all, Which package should be installed for installing qt4 ?19:59
ahmed_i am taking a course about powershell scripting i want to be run them un ubuntu instead virtualox19:59
ZenT510!server | Jasonn19:59
ubottuJasonn: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server19:59
AbTuXI am using a package for some time for which .deb is not available so i had created one how can i submit it to main repository ?19:59
BluesKaj!Qt420:00
JasonnZenT510: Its not a server problem, i am just saying that it is a problem, and i happen to be using server20:00
BluesKaj!info Qt420:00
ubottuPackage Qt4 does not exist in maverick20:00
BluesKaj!qt20:01
ubottuthe Qt toolkit (pronounced "cute"), which forms the base of !KDE, is a cross-platform C++ application framework for !CLI and !GUI applications. Install libqt4-dev and see !build to compile Qt4 applications, join #qt for development support20:01
Dr_WillisAbTuX:  you proberly want to just make a 'ppa' for the package.20:01
Xubuntunoobhey people20:01
BluesKajalabd, ^20:01
Xubuntunoobi need some help20:01
Xubuntunoobcan anyone make me a deb for powerpc ubuntu?20:01
Xubuntunoobof 0.8.9 gnash20:01
Jasonnno20:01
JasonnXubuntunoob: We are here to help you, not program your computer for you20:02
ZenT510!find klips | Jasonn20:02
ubottuJasonn: File klips found in openswan, openswan-dbg, openswan-doc, openswan-modules-dkms, picon-users20:02
AbTuXDr_Willis, ok , let me try dont know about it.20:03
JasonnZenT510: Ok, I have openswan installed, but it said its missing KLIPS20:03
Xubuntunoobjasonn: can you tell how to build it ?20:03
Dr_WillisIve totally given up on PPC linux - just to out of date.20:03
JasonnXubuntunoob: I have no idea20:03
AbTuXDr_Willis, thanks20:03
Dr_WillisXubuntunoob:  is there any gnash at all for ppc?20:03
Xubuntunoobyeah20:04
Xubuntunoob0.8.820:04
Xubuntunoobso is 0.8.920:04
alabdBluesKaj: but i-humble want to install skype from repository and don't want install it from source20:04
Dr_Williscompile the patest then, using the build-dep option to pull in all needed dependencies.. perhaps.20:04
Xubuntunoobi have a question20:04
gnugrhttp://www.linoob.com/2011/03/ubuntu-11-04-community-default-wallpapers-revealed/20:04
AbTuXXubuntunoob, if you want to create a deb for that , just google debian packaging20:04
BluesKaj!skype | alabd20:05
ubottualabd: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga20:05
Xubuntunoobabtux: thankies ^_^20:05
maxagazhi, when I click on my home folder in the men, it opens banshee,why ?20:05
Dr_Willismaxagaz:  you some how assoicated 'folders' with a differnt app.20:05
Xubuntunoobis it possible if you built skype from source, could you make it for powerpc??20:05
Xubuntunoobjust wondering20:06
suicidolthow do I get a pdf reader that can edit pdfs for ubuntu?20:06
Dr_Willismaxagaz:  perhaps this site has a fix :  read up at --> https://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2010/12/07/ubuntu-location-launchers-error-how-to-reset-gnome-panel-places-menu-launchers-to-open-with-nautilus/20:06
Dr_WillisXubuntunoob:  i dont think the skype source is available.20:06
maxagazDr_Willis, no, I never did that, it has been done automatically by some buggy application20:07
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Xubuntunoobdr_willis: o20:08
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tbruff13hello20:10
alabdBluesKaj: thanks20:11
tbruff13I have no sound out of my laptop speakers even though I turned up alsamixer can someone tell me what is going on please20:11
BluesKajalabd, np20:11
maxagazDr_Willis, your link didn't help20:11
Xubuntunoobhow do i build gnash from source??20:12
maxagazDr_Willis, because I don't have the option "open with" in the properties of a directory20:12
ikoniaXubuntunoob: you don't need to20:12
metaljaztbruff13 do you have sound from headphones20:12
maxagazI'll get rid of Banshee, it really sucks!20:13
tbruff13metaljaz, yes i do20:13
Xubuntunoobikonia: i want to get a version that is not in the repos20:13
ikoniaXubuntunoob: gnash is inthe ubuntu software repository, just install it from the package manager20:13
ikoniaXubuntunoob: why ?20:13
tbruff13maxagaz, try VLC media player20:13
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gnugrhttp://www.techhamlet.com/2011/03/a-night-at-the-hamlet/20:14
maxagaztbruff13, vlc is nice to listen to one song, read a video, but not to manage your songs20:14
ikoniagnugr: any reason your posting that in an ubuntu support channel20:14
nes_sup20:14
tbruff13oh sorry I use it to manage my music sorry20:14
germ86hi20:14
gnugris for ubuntu users20:14
tbruff13can someone tell me why i have no sound from my speakers20:15
ikoniagnugr: why ? it's nothing to do with ubuntu20:15
Logan_gnugr: No spam, please.20:15
metaljazcheck private messages20:15
ZenT510maxagaz: if you want an alternative to banshee have you tried exaile?20:15
Logan_!pm | metaljaz20:15
ubottumetaljaz: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.20:15
BluesKajnes_, supper isn't for another 3 hrs20:15
maxagazZenT510, no, does it manage video rss ?20:16
ZenT510maxagaz: not sure sorry20:16
vinceHello community :)20:16
edbianvince, hello20:17
ZenT510hi vince, anything you need help with?20:18
maxagazZenT510, I'll try amarok instead20:18
vinceI'd like to list the content of a folder using "Tree". The thing is I'd like to list all the subdirectories without listing the files themselves20:18
vinceI just don't know the command i'm supposed to use20:18
vincetree -d -L 120:19
vincethis one gives subfolders as well as files20:19
JasonnHow do i remove all packages I have installed?20:20
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Pumpkin-vince: I'd use something like "find . -type d"20:20
ZenT510vince: do you need to use tree? can't you just cd to the directory and use dir20:20
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Danielcg25Jasonn: Format the drive?20:21
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Danielcg25(Ubuntu is technically a program, so =P)20:21
giffvince, I tried your command and it works like intended, no files are shown20:21
vinceWell, I don't "need" to use tree, I could use that "ls" command, but I don't know how to list subfolders only20:21
JasonnDanielcg25: No, only the ones *i* installed20:21
Danielcg25Hmm20:22
Danielcg25Apt-get remove <name of program>20:22
vincegiff, Yes I know, no files are shown but I want tree to show subfolders20:22
lamenti'm new to ubuntu, and i keep accidentally pressing some key combination that seemingly locks up the keyboard. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace still works but nothing else seems to. Anyone knows what it is?20:23
giffgiff, it does, for me, just replace 1 with 2 or 320:23
wildc4rdis there a good gmail notifier for Ubuntu?20:23
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vincelament, are you using a laptop ?20:23
lamentyes20:24
lamenta macbook actually20:24
vincewildc4rd, I think gmail notifier does exist for ubuntu20:24
vinceusb mouse?20:24
sibbi3list20:24
lamentno mouse20:24
giffvince, it does, for me, just replace 1 with 2 or 320:24
lamentit's definitely the keyboard, i was just able to reproduces it by banging on function keys20:24
lamentjust not sure which ones20:24
lamentnot function, i mean modifier20:25
vincegiff, that's exactly what I needed! Thank you very much!20:25
sibbi3ciao20:25
MarkusTI setup an LVM over RAID1 system and successfully debootstraped it. I am however unable to install grub2 (which doesn't seem to recognize both LVM and RAID). Did anyone successfully do this?20:25
sibbi3ma la lista dei server dove si trova20:25
kos_Hello, is it possible to repair corrupted partition table?20:25
giff!it | sibbi320:26
ubottusibbi3: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)20:26
* license2grill is trying to resuscitate an old iMac20:26
root__How do I modify my script so it only greps the artist field and not the albumartist line?20:26
root__how to grep "artist" and "album" fields without grepping "albumartist" field20:26
chairmao_I have a samsung N130 running ubuntu 10.10 - i cannot for the life of me connect to the internet - anyone have any thoughts?20:26
root__[Amarok] [title: Magical Mystery Tour] [albumartist: The Beatlesartist: The Beatles] [album: Magical Mystery Tour [DESS MFSL-1-047]albumartist: The Beatles]20:26
vincegiff!20:26
root__see it lists twice20:26
giffvince?20:27
root__how to fix it?20:27
Ddordahey guys, i'm trying to install Hamachi2 on Ubuntu 10.10 without any success20:27
Danielcg25Hamachi?20:27
vincedo you happen to know how to get a list.txt or something when using the command you gave me ?20:27
Ddordawhen installing i get this error: logmein-hamachi depends on lsb20:27
Ddordatrying to install lsb give me error.20:27
giffvince, append this: > list.txt20:28
sibbi3list.txt20:28
sibbi3save list20:28
Danielcg25I hate that software.20:28
sibbi3help20:28
Danielcg25Somebody hacked my co20:28
sibbi3\help20:28
sibbi3-help20:28
icerootDdorda: post the complete output please to pastebin20:28
FloodBot3sibbi3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:28
xerxeshi pple20:28
giffDaniel0108, details/ot?20:28
Danielcg25computer via that software, haven't used it since :(20:28
sibbi3mi potresti solo dire dove trovare una guida per mirc20:28
giff!tell sibbi3 about it20:29
ubottusibbi3, please see my private message20:29
Ddordaiceroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/585965/20:29
sibbi3ok grazie20:29
jnlsnl_I have added a node to my panel content, can i tell it to not print any title for the node?20:29
JasonnIs there a program to connect to VPNs better than the default one?20:29
icerootDdorda: sudo apt-get install lsb20:29
Daniel0108giff: I'm Daniel0108, lol :P20:29
vincegiff, Thank you very much, made my day :)20:30
giffDaniel0108, sorry :(20:30
rajvihello allany replacent of Ctrl+ALt+Del20:30
Logan_!vpn | Jasonn20:30
ubottuJasonn: For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN20:30
Ddordaiceroot:20:30
Ddordahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/585966/20:30
giffyou are welcome vince20:30
BluesKajDdorda, install lsb-core20:30
DdordaBluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/585967/20:31
kos_Which program should I use to repair corrupted partition table (bad signature on dev/sda ) ?20:31
giffrajvi,dontzap?20:31
ravidarhi20:31
Danielcg25What is the repository for AirCrack?20:31
rajvidoes lsb-core is important for running windows apllications also?20:31
Danielcg25(aircrack-ptw preferred)20:31
oCean!info aircrack-ng | Danielcg2520:32
ubottuDanielcg25: aircrack-ng (source: aircrack-ng): wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-1 (maverick), package size 1541 kB, installed size 2776 kB20:32
Ddordarajvi: no idea.20:32
Danielcg25Neighbor wants me to test they're network for security20:32
ZenT510rajvi: lsb is linux standard base, nothing to do with windows apps20:32
chairmao_best programme for ripping a dvd and storing the file as a .avi? thoughts?20:32
rajvii know zen20:32
Danielcg25It's in the default sources?20:33
Danielcg25Thanks, oCean20:33
sidd_makMy Ubuntu 10.10 is suffering from many minor glitches and so i have finally decided to reinstall it ... is there any way to backup the names of all installed packages so that after fresh installation i just have to pass that list to packages in apt-get install command so i get my system with the same package as in the current one....??20:33
BluesKajDdorda, did you do , sudo apt-get -f install20:33
giffDanielcg25, what about !backtrack20:33
Danielcg25!info backtrack20:33
ubottuPackage backtrack does not exist in maverick20:33
giff!backtrack20:34
ubottuThere are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition20:34
Amerosidd_mak: dpkg --get-selections20:34
oCeangiff what's your point20:34
giffoCean, he should use that instead, incuding their irc20:34
rajviaany replacement for Ctrl+Alt+Del20:34
giffrajvi, dontzap20:35
DdordaBluesKaj: no, since i'm not sure forcing it to install will do any good20:35
Ddordabrb anyway20:35
sidd_makAmero : what does this command do ??20:35
BluesKajDdorda, it worked for me when I installed google earth20:35
jnlsnl_can one use tinymce in the panel add new content text area?20:36
root__[Amarok] [title: Blue Jay Way] [artist: The Beatles] [album: Magical Mystery Tour [DESS MFSL-1-047]albumartist: The Beatles]20:36
Amerosidd_mak: it will list out all packages installed on your ubuntu20:36
rajvimy fullscrenn apps ( Games are crashing some of them ) n I m hard shutting down ,, Can I get a combinations of hot keya20:36
giffrajvi, don't you see my replies?20:37
giffrajvi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap20:37
oCeangiff: what does your reply mean?20:37
oCeangiff: just saying "dontzap" is not very helpful, is it?20:37
Danielcg25giff: Why when I already have Ubuntu 10.10 installed?20:37
tbruff13hey metaljaz20:37
sidd_makAmero : the thing is that ve can grep this output but the list will be output one package name per line20:38
giffgiff, because it's easier? of course you can use ubuntu too20:38
rajvii m sorry giff my english is bad misunderstood20:38
oCeanDanielcg25: I don't see giff's advice making any sense. ubuntu 1010 is just fine20:38
ubottuUbuntu bug 1010 in drivel (Ubuntu) "out-of-date" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101020:38
oCeangiff: don't talk nonsense20:38
root__[Amarok] [title: Your Mother Should Know] [artist: The Beatles] [album: Magical Mystery Tour [DESS MFSL-1-047]]20:38
giffoCean, it's the first google hit...20:38
oCeangiff: don't give advice you don't know about20:38
sidd_makAmero : is it possible to install all this packages  in one single command20:39
tbruff13metaljaz, hey are you here20:39
giffoCean, what do I not know?20:39
Danielcg25It is possible, I have Cydia (apt package manager) on my jailbroken iPod touch :)20:39
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Danielcg25And I can make a que of packages to install at once20:40
icerootDanielcg25: #apple #ipod20:40
root__W H A T   I S   T H E   R O O M   F O R   L I N U X   M I N T ?20:41
ZenT510!mint20:41
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org20:41
oCeanroot__: don't do that20:41
edbianHow rude!20:41
sidd_makDanielcg25 :  que of packages to install at once ...... HOW??20:41
FullNudeDeGrippoFive inches came and went, as did six.  Slowly, his hard-on got20:41
FullNudeDeGrippothicker and longer as his tiny balls began to swell.  It was like watching20:41
FullNudeDeGrippoa long, thick balloon slowly fill.  The pressure was growing more and more20:41
Logan_!ops20:41
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, bilalakhtar, Jordan_U, or rww!20:41
FullNudeDeGrippointense as seven inches neared.  His balls were almost an inch and a half20:41
FullNudeDeGrippoacross now as the pressure swelled and suddenly, released.20:41
FloodBot3FullNudeDeGrippo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:41
root__oCean:  S O R R Y   : , - (20:41
FullNudeDeGrippoWith orgasmic shock, Curt watched himself spray an arc of cum20:41
vinceBye everybody20:42
pizzaslater vince20:43
searaymananyoen know a channel i can get java programing help?20:43
Logan_searayman: ##java20:43
kriumehow do i change username ????20:43
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for a application?20:44
Logan_kriume: on Ubuntu?20:44
tbruff13can anyone tell my why alsamixer puts my speaker setting a zero everytime i boot up ubuntu20:44
kriumeyes Logan_20:44
tbruff13    20:44
tbruff13opps20:44
mongytbruff13,  odd.  change it again and sudo alsactl store20:44
tbruff13well i already changed it when i started the computer like i always do20:45
metaljaztbruff i had something for you to try20:45
kriumehow do i change username ????20:45
tbruff13mongy, do i need to run that command now or reboot first20:45
Logan_!repeat | kriume20:45
ubottukriume: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/20:45
mongytbruff13, after you changed it.  it 'should' store it20:45
Danielcg25sidd_mak: I didn't say I knew how, I said it was possible ;)20:46
mongytbruff13, then when you reboot it should use the stored values20:46
metaljaztbruff what sound card is that?20:46
terrykriume: Log out and back in again as new user.20:46
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terrykrups: Do you have another user on your system yet? (Have you created one?20:47
tbruff13thanks mongy20:47
giffkriume, usermod -l newname oldname20:47
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for a application?20:47
ayeceedel_diablo: how do you mean?20:48
terrykriume: Do you have another user on your system yet? (Have you created one?20:48
incorrectis there anyway to run unity without the silly side bar thingy20:48
incorrecti like the screen space i get from the window manager20:48
Xubuntunoobhow do i format a usb drive on xubuntu?20:48
xanguaincorrect: then it would not be unity :P20:48
Logan_!xubuntu | Xubuntunoob20:48
ubottuXubuntunoob: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels20:48
del_diabloayecee: When scrolling in a browser using mousewheel the browser moves roughly 3 lines per scroll. I want to change the value for that.20:48
fermulatorAnyone have any idea how "df" can show a filesystem (root) 100% used, while "du" shows only 50% used?  http://pastebin.com/e4amiVcU20:48
incorrectxangua, well i like the window manager20:49
Xubuntunoobim sorry i tried the xubuntu channel but no one answered20:49
Logan_Xubuntunoob: then please be patient20:49
terryXubuntunoob: What filesystem do you want to use?  fat32?20:49
incorrectbut the side bar is big and pointless20:49
Logan_Xubuntunoob: we do not support derivatives of Ubuntu in this channel20:49
incorrectid much rather use docky or something20:49
Xubuntunooblogan_: ok20:49
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mongyincorrect, its resizable in natty.  but thats #ubuntu+120:49
Xubuntunoobi want to format it in fat20:50
giffincorrect, it's a good idea for widescreen displays compared to the two panels of vanilla gnome, right now there is no way to disable it with any sort of option20:50
drcXubuntunoob: Not sure now, but back when I ran XCFE I always installed the GNOME disk utility (in repos)...worked like a charm20:50
del_diabloXubuntunoob: Gparted?20:50
ayeceedel_diablo: nothing comes to mind, sorry20:50
del_diabloayecee: K20:50
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for a application?20:50
terryXubuntunoob: mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1  #Where /dev/sdb1 is the usb device.  Make sure which one it is first.20:50
incorrectmongy, yes but my netbook is not wide enough and the sidebar is taking up too much space20:51
Xubuntunoobi tried gparted but there is waaayyy to many options20:51
incorrectbut i love the window manager20:51
terryXubuntunoob: sudo fdisk -l    #Will list all driver partitions.20:51
mongyincorrect, you can select regular gnome at the login screen20:51
nerdshelldel_diablo: clarify more please20:51
ayeceedel_diablo: it would be better to mention the scroll wheel in the question.20:51
del_diabloXubuntunoob: Sorry to say so, but there is not enough options in gparted. Take a good look at the GUI, then do what you want to do20:51
terryXubuntunoob:  gparted is for partitioning.20:51
mongyincorrect, this is 10.10 netbook right?20:51
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?20:51
incorrectmongy, gnome takes up too much space at the top20:51
marcuywhen I press "Places->Home" on the main Ubuntu menu, then Audacious opens instead of Nautilus.. any ideas?20:51
Xubuntunoobterry: oh20:51
mongyincorrect, so remove a panel20:51
incorrectmongy, yes on a netbook20:52
mongyincorrect, I use 10.10 regular on a dell mini920:52
incorrectmongy, but the window manager doesn't become part of the top20:52
drcXubuntunoob: Or you use startup disk creator, and bail out after "erase disk" (i.e NOT install anything)20:52
Xubuntunoobdrc: ok '20:52
mongyincorrect, unity in natty is lot better, and usable on a 9" screen20:52
Xubuntunoobdrc: i will try that20:52
incorrectmongy, maybe there is a backport of it?20:53
fr00gCan anyone tell me how to customize the Firefox button in Ubuntu?20:53
mongyincorrect, for now, choose classic desktop at the login screen, remove a panel and add your dock20:53
nerdshelldel_diablo: check up here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto20:53
rajviis  it ok to run Ubuntu 10.10 ona netbook20:53
mongyincorrect, not sure, Im just testing the alpha...20:53
mongyrajvi, yes20:53
incorrectmongy, that is what i had, but not so great20:53
terryrajvi: Well, sure.  Why not?20:53
incorrectisn't it 11.04 soon?20:53
gifffr00g, which button?20:54
nerdshellrajvi:  Of course, why not?20:54
mongyincorrect, yes.  natty20:54
fermulatorfr00g: $HOME/.local/share/applications might be relevant for you20:54
incorrectcan't be that unstable20:54
terryrajvi: Oh, you mean as opposed to remix?20:54
intraderjack_^,I get error in using the startupmanager 'Glib-GIO_Error: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.26.1/gio/gdbusconnection.c:2270:initable_init:assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error = NULL)20:54
mongyincorrect, for me its fine.20:54
jack_^intrader, in xorg.1.log?20:54
Xubuntunoobdrc:    "package dependencies could not be resolved20:54
incorrectmy netbook is not important to me, i can experiment20:54
mongyincorrect, but that coiuld change within a day...   #ubuntu+1 for more natty discussion20:54
fr00ggiff, the menu button20:54
Xubuntunoobdrc: usb-creator-gtk20:54
fr00gfermulator, I meant the menu button within the browser20:55
del_diablonerdshell: Could you point me to the GUI instead?20:55
rajviwell i m a average newbie .. i install netbook book edition first didnot apealed me :)20:55
intraderjack_^, the last lines from executing startupmanager20:55
drcXubuntunoob: Did you use the package manager?20:55
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?20:55
Xubuntunoobdrc: used ubuntu software center, should i try synaptic?20:55
terryrajvi: Yea, well, it's ok to install the standard ubuntu on it.  In fact, it would be my preference.20:56
terryrajvi: ... but that's just me...20:56
oCeandel_diablo: for firefox specific there is in about:config the mousewheel.withnokey.numlines parameter20:56
rajviusing ubuntu 10.10 ( Anyone using Quicken 2011 via WINE)20:56
terryXubuntunoob: What exactly are you wanting to do?20:56
rajviterry i know how to do that20:56
fermulatorThis is crazy; can anyone comment how/why this can happen? "sudo du -x -h --max-depth=0 /" -> says that 4.1G is used.  Yet, "sudo df -h /" --> says that 9.2G/9.3G is used... (/dev/sdm1             9.3G  9.2G     0 100% /)20:56
gifffr00g, system>preferences>mainmenu>internet>select firefox>properties>click on icon>select a different png20:56
nerdshellravji : the netbook edition is just more economic, but standard release would be fine ;)20:56
terryrajvi: Very well.20:56
del_diablooCean: Do not use firefox myself :( Using Opera(reallying on OS scroll options).20:57
Xubuntunoobterry: i need to format my usb drive]20:57
fr00ggiff, no, I mean the menu button IN the browser20:57
kriumei am inside a folder wich has a makefile in it but when i type "make" in terminal i get ""make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."" why?20:57
oCeandel_diablo: I don't think such is a "global" setting. But, not entirely sure20:57
terryXubuntunoob: Just open a GUI terminal and use  mkfs.vfat20:57
gifffr00g, can you post a screenshot?20:57
itaylor57rajvi: gnucash is good20:57
rajviterry is lsb-core is needed to run wine apllications more stably20:57
Xubuntunoobterry: ok20:57
fermulatorfr00g: please take a screenshot, edit the photo, and circle/highlight the button you're referring to20:57
rajvii work for quicken:)20:57
del_diablooCean: Then where do Opera get its 3 line scroll from? O.o20:58
terryXubuntunoob:  THey usually come formatted.  Do you just need to erase what's on it?  or...?20:58
oCeandel_diablo: check opera's about:config ?20:58
del_diablooCean: Yes.20:58
terryXubuntunoob: At any rate mkfs.vfat will erase all data on it so...20:58
glitchdany clue why some of my hardware drivers wont install with linux kernel 2.6.38-1-generic??20:58
del_diablooCean: Also known as "opera:config"20:58
oCeandel_diablo: see if there is a parameter on the scrolling, is all I'm saying21:00
terryXubuntunoob: I would  first do  sudo fdisk -l21:00
giffglitchd, because they only work with older kernels?21:00
terryXubuntunoob: And look at what is there.21:00
fermulatorfr00g: use "imageshack" to upload screenshot21:00
rajviwhat u all have to say abou Firefox 421:00
fr00ghttp://img717.imageshack.us/img717/9364/screenshot001mt.png21:00
terryrajvi: I'm not a big fan yet.21:00
oCeanrajvi: this is support channel. Discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic21:00
rajvii m in a fix chrome or firefox21:00
del_diablooCean: I did.21:00
nerdshellrajvi: Great21:00
gifffr00g, that's FF4... install a different theme21:00
famthegeekubuntu installed on flash drive!!!21:01
Xubuntunoobterry: all i see is the hard drive sectors21:01
kriumei am inside a folder wich has a makefile in it but when i type "make" in terminal i get ""make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."" why?21:01
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?21:01
terryXubuntunoob: Yes, that is what you want to see - so that you can be sure you format the right partition.21:01
gifffr00g, you could also disable it and go back to the menubar layout21:01
oCeankriume: usually the compiling process starts out with a ./configure command.21:01
terryXubuntunoob: Show us;  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit21:01
terryXubuntunoob: What size is your flash drive?21:02
giffkriume, you first need to ./configure21:02
kriumeoCean: what do u mean? i did ./configure first, and make after, but doesnt work21:02
glitchdgiff, i jus updated to the kernel that i was asking about earlier21:02
oCeankriume: when installing software that is not from the repositories, you should ask the maintainers of that software for support21:02
nerdshellhow do I make a script that requires high privileges autorun on startup ?21:03
Xubuntunoobterry: 2gb21:03
terryXubuntunoob: Show us;  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit21:03
oCean!compiling > kriume21:03
ubottukriume, please see my private message21:03
glitchdgiff, pm me please21:03
giffglitchd, yeah I remember, that's the problem with not sticking with the defaults :P what hardware is it?21:03
Xubuntunoobterry: ok21:03
rajvican i get a app to make a copy i mean a installation to my installed Ubuntu 10.1021:03
nerdshellhow do I make a script that requires high privileges autorun on startup ?21:03
terryXubuntunoob: ... and paste resulting URL here.21:03
Xubuntunoobk21:03
bastidrazornerdshell: add it to /etc/rc.local21:03
JoFoHello. With Thunderbird, I've pressed the Delete key by mistake and I can't find the message back. Is that hopeless?21:04
nerdshellbastidrazor: I read that this was a verry bad idea, no?21:04
bastidrazornerdshell: how is that bad?21:04
bastidrazor!boot21:04
ubottuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto21:04
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?21:04
terrynerdshell: You place it in /etc/init.d/  or just add the lines to /etc/rc.local if you like (little easier).21:04
kriumei am trying to isntall conky21:04
kriumeoCean21:04
tarvidhow do I get the properties of a audio CD?21:04
ayeceedel_diablo: it seems to be specific to the application.21:04
oCean!info conky | kriume that is in the repositories21:05
ubottukriume: conky (source: conky): highly configurable system monitor (transitional package). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.0-1ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 31 kB, installed size 68 kB21:05
terrytarvid: sudo fdisk -l21:05
Xubuntunoobterry: http://pastebin.com/7YSJjeq321:05
del_diabloayecee: That is silly. Why can't I get applications to just work?21:05
nerdshellterry: it's not dangerous to edit the init.d file ?21:05
bastidrazornerdshell: read the factoid ubottu just put out.21:06
ayeceedel_diablo: not all applications use the same method of interpreting scrolling events, apparently.21:06
terryXubuntunoob: You must not have it plugged in right now. (The flash drive.)21:06
nerdshellbastidrazor:  factoid ubottu, what's that ?21:06
bastidrazor!boot | nerdshell21:06
ubottunerdshell: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto21:06
Pumpkin-nerdshell: I wouldn't recommend editing anything in /etc/init.d/ (makes updates complicated), but creating new stuff, ideally based from /etc/init.d/skeleton is fine.21:07
terrynerdshell: It is a directory.  The startup scripts are kept there, (or symlinked there).21:07
rajviany rooms to helpnewbies21:07
MaryamHola gente linda21:07
rajvi:(21:07
Xubuntunoobterry: plugged it in21:08
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?21:08
nerdshellPumpkin-: how to use the init.d skeleton to create my own stuff ?21:08
glitchdcan anyone help me with these errors??.....http://pastie.org/171949121:08
Xubuntunoobterry: and it still gives me the same message21:08
terryXubuntunoob: Ok, now do it again.  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit21:08
terryXubuntunoob: Then there must be something wrong with it.21:08
guntbertJoFo: my thunderbird has Edit/undo delete message ( <ctrl> z)21:09
bastidrazornerdshell: that is a template to use for creating startup scripts.21:09
nerdshellbastidrazor: any useful Link ?21:09
Nikofigo[23:08] <Nikofigo> i imported 2 audio files in audacity (same window)21:09
Nikofigo[23:08] <Nikofigo> and i want to export them in a single mp3. how do i do that? (so mix them actually)21:09
bastidrazornerdshell: look at the file.21:10
nerdshellbastidrazor: the file, wiche file ?21:10
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?21:10
glitchdNikofigo, do u want one to play right after the first?21:10
bastidrazornerdshell: or better yet.. add your script to /etc/rc.local   and be done with it. that is the proper place for startup scripts you create.21:10
nerdshellbastidrazor: okay, thanks a lot21:11
Pumpkin-nerdshell: if its JUST startup stuff, stick it in /etc/rc.local and be done with it. If its stuff that needs to startup and shutdown, then you need to worry about skeleton and proper process.21:11
rajviany apps to create an image of my installed ubuntu21:11
Xubuntunoobterry: well when  i plug it in xubuntu Recognizes it21:11
ayeceedel_diablo: it seems to be specific to the application.21:11
Xubuntunoobterry: but terminal doesnt21:11
del_diabloayecee: And that is not a answer not a "good point on where to look for a solution".21:11
del_diablo*nor a21:11
redboatDoes someon know where the iRC channel is for leo laportes TwitTV21:12
ayeceedel_diablo: the answer is that there is no one place to set the number of lines scrolled for all applications.21:12
JoFo<guntbert> JoFo: my thunderbird has Edit/undo delete message ( <ctrl> z) ← But that seems limited to a fe steps, and I've made several (too many) operations since then.21:12
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terryXubuntunoob: Show us;  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit   #And past new URL here again.21:12
Xubuntunoobok21:12
ayeceedel_diablo: however, if you would like to change the setting for a specific application, it would be helpful to name the application.21:12
bastidrazorubottu: tell redboat about alis21:13
ubotturedboat, please see my private message21:13
drcredboat: I told you earlier  http://irc.twit.tv/21:13
del_diabloayecee: I already did. Opera. I also looked for it, it uses some system defaults. Where is those defaults?21:13
JoFoWhere does a message go when I press Shift + Del?21:13
ayeceedel_diablo: sorry, I missed that. it wasn't in your question.21:13
redboatthanks I am using xchat wheres the pm21:13
tbruff13_metaljaz, hello21:13
Xubuntunoobhttp://pastebin.com/Qv8CQeXs21:13
tbruff13_the alsamixer still keeps speaker on zero21:13
Xubuntunoobterry:http://pastebin.com/Qv8CQeXs21:13
del_diabloayecee: Also gedit too21:13
guntbertJoFo: then I don't know, sorry21:14
drcredboat: or irc.twit.tv21:14
ayeceedel_diablo: opera gets it from a system default? do you remember where you saw that?21:14
terryXubuntunoob: Hummm.  You are right.  Your flash drive is not being recognized.  You'll not be able to format it.  BTW, what version have you installed?  10.10?  or...?21:14
guntbertJoFo: have you seen http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/  ?21:15
Xubuntunoobterry: maverick meerkat 10.1021:15
del_diabloayecee: I do not, because I have not seen it. But on windows it fetches system defaults, and on Linux there is no settings for scrolling present anywhere, in both Opera:config and manually setting up mouse shortcuts....................21:15
terryXubuntunoob: Well, sorry we can't help you.  There is either something wrong with your system or something wrong with  your flash drive.  (I think there is something wrong with your flash drive.)21:16
root__terry: where can I get this pastebin cli app?21:16
photonwhat's the easiest way to type IPA symbols without using the "character map" app?21:17
terryroot__: apt-get will install it for you.21:17
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?21:17
terryroot__: apt-get install pastebinit21:17
root__terry: what's it called?21:17
root__ok, my distro doesn't have that app21:17
terryroot__: What are you on?21:17
kriumei juust installed, how do i get the conky on desktop??21:18
Logan_terry: he is on Mint21:18
Logan_!mint | root__21:18
ubotturoot__: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org21:18
terryroot__: You should install ubuntu.  Sorry ....21:18
giffredboat, /msg nickname message21:18
terryAnnouncement:  Ubuntu supported here    [only]21:19
del_diabloroot__: Mint rolling edition?21:19
Logan_terry: we know21:19
tbruff13_ hey why does alsamixer start my speaker on 0 when i boot21:20
redboatDick I made my own gadget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23363133/SkinnyLatteVer2_Complete.JPG21:20
root__del_diablo: I'm on gentoo21:20
ayeceedel_diablo: you could perhaps add the applications you're asking about to your question.21:20
terryroot__:  Linux mint support is on irc server irc.spotchat.org channel #linuxmint21:20
newlinbonjour21:20
tbruff13_mongy, your thing did nothing21:20
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Logan_!fr | newlin21:20
ubottunewlin: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.21:20
root__terry: I'm on gentoo21:20
root__I found wgetpaste21:20
root__all is good21:20
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for OPERA when using the mousewheel to scroll?21:20
terryroot__: /join #gentoo21:20
root__terry: o rry?21:21
rajvii need a standlone download manger any suggestions ??21:21
Boosted-somebody good with grub?  got a slight problem...well more of a big one >_<21:21
Logan_del_diablo: irc.opera.com #opera21:21
Logan_del_diablo: for Opera support21:21
root__rajvi: jdownloader if your system can handle it21:21
terryrajvi: You might try wget21:21
del_diabloLogan_: Yes.......... now tell me where system default is set21:21
root__!grub > Boosted-21:22
ubottuBoosted-, please see my private message21:22
metaljaztbruff did you get working?21:22
Logan_del_diablo: or ##opera on Freenode21:22
Logan_del_diablo: please join one of those channels for more specific Opera support21:22
rajviroot_:hello mint guy please get out 4m here21:22
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for application when using the mousewheel to scroll?21:22
xanguarajvi: no need to be hostile21:22
terryrajvi: I use wget for large downloads, like ISOs etc.21:22
kriumei juust installed conky, how do i get the conky on desktop??21:22
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?21:22
drcdel_diablo: AFAIK there is NOT one...write on that actually works and we'll all be happy (if only because it shuts you up)21:22
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for kate when using the mousewheel to scroll?21:23
drcdel_diablo: AFAIK there is NOT one...write on that actually works and we'll all be happy (if only because it shuts you up)21:23
xanguakriume: there are lot of ways, i use 'conky colors'21:23
rajvithanks dudes any front end 4 wget i heard its command base21:23
terryrajvi: No, but you can use it in a GUI terminal. It is very easy.21:24
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for kate when using the mousewheel to scroll?21:24
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rajviya i know how to do that terry21:24
tbruff13_why is my alsamixer speaker all the way down when i start ubuntu21:24
kriumexangua: i just typed that and a black thing apeared on the desktop, i cant move it around or nothing??21:24
mongytbruff13_, sorry, Im at a loss then.21:24
bastidrazor!patience | del_diablo21:24
ubottudel_diablo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/21:24
terryrajvi: Just right-click a download link and choose "Copy link location", go to terminal and type:  wget  [and hit middle mouse button]21:25
tbruff13_k21:25
drc!repeat | del_diablo21:25
nerdshell!boot21:25
ubottuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto21:25
xanguakriume: google for conky colors to know how to use it, is not in repositories21:25
terryrajvi: See:  man wget   #For more details.  It is very powerful.21:25
del_diablotbruff13_: Some bug about incorrect rights setting somewhere........ You could most likely find the "error log" if you knew where to look(no idea myself)21:25
giffrajvi, if you use firefox: http://domnit.org/blog/2007/09/wget.html21:25
rajviTerry: On 10.10 via Wubia wanna make a customised copy of 10.10 with all my packages onit , u understand a installable disk with allmy packages21:26
rajvithaks giff21:26
Boosted-root__ not a help for me...since im missing files21:27
terryrajvi: Oh ok.  Sorry.21:27
photonwhat's the easiest way to type IPA symbols without using the "character map" app?21:28
Boosted-missing at least menu.lst...or i dont know where to search or find it21:29
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?21:29
rajviterry : its not possible , can i make a script so i don't have to installed each one individually??21:29
vanillaslicedoes anyonek now how i can install VirstualMin via apt-get ?21:29
bastidrazor!clone | rajvi21:30
ubotturajvi: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate21:30
terryrajvi: If you just have a list you can just do:  sudo apt-get pkg1 pkg2 pkg3 pkg4 etc. etc. etc.21:30
agliodbshey, I have an ubuntu netbook with a 120GB HDD.  I want to transfer my whole installation to a 60GB SSD.  There is only around 30GB of data on the HDD.  what's the easiest way to do this?21:30
del_diabloagliodbs: cp -r / *hd location*, then run something related to upadting grub21:31
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agliodbsdel_diablo: that won't copy the boot sector though.  I want the SSD to be bootable ... I'm going  to take the HDD out of the netbook and swap them21:32
nyuszika7hHello! Once I've installed "kubuntu-desktop" on Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx), and then later when I wanted to remove it, it also removed the entire GNOME environment! How is this possible?21:33
kellnola_agliodbs, rsync, and then you will need to install grub2 on the new disk21:33
agliodbskellnola_: and gparted to format the SSD, presumably?21:33
kellnola_whatever tool you like21:34
del_diabloagliodbs: grub 1 or grub 2? I would recommend getting a rescue medium(live cd or live usb), and then running the cp command ,the plugin the HD correctly, then running live medium and following thisd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling from LiveCD21:34
bastidrazordel_diablo: that won't work.. more than just grub will be broken. fstab for example21:34
blurymindhi folks21:34
kellnola_del_diablo, yes on the live cd, but why cp? rsync is much better21:34
blurymindkmix seems to be acting strangely21:35
blurymindmaverick here21:35
del_diablokellnola_: Because rsync requires setup rsync or something? :P21:35
agliodbsdel_diablo: rescue drive is a bit of a problem. no cd-rom, and installing rescuedisk to thumbdrives is kind of a PITA21:35
del_diablobastidrazor: Just fstab. Fstab is easy to fix21:35
blurymindit eats up cpu and lags a lot when I scroll on it or click it21:35
kellnola_del_diablo, ? rsync -av /source /target <- that's all21:35
agliodbsI'm not that concerned about how to copy the files.  just how to make the SSD bootable21:35
del_diabloagliodbs: http://www.kvasir.no/alle?ezpz_hint_dummy_input=Skriv+inn+s%C3%B8keord&q=unetbootin ?21:36
del_diablokellnola_: K21:36
bluryminddeleting settings seems to fix it only temporarily21:36
kellnola_agliodbs, it would be much easier to do a clean install of ubuntu on the new disk then copy your data back over21:36
old_keyboardhello21:36
old_keyboard!botsnack21:36
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!21:36
del_diabloagliodbs: Quick question are the SSD located in your computer already?21:36
agliodbskellnola_: except for a clean, install, I'd need to have a bootable thumbdrive21:37
kellnola_agliodbs, you can get a list of all the package selections you have with "dpkg --get-selections" , then merge that with the new installation21:37
agliodbsdel_diablo: it's in an external USB case right now21:37
gartralHello all, I have a CR-48 laptop and i installed ubuntu onto it, but it lacks a bunch of keys and i was hoping that someone could tell me how to make shortcut aliases for pgup, pgdn, end, home and caps lock21:37
agliodbsthe issue with unetbootin is that it's *very* fussy about which USB keys it will accept21:38
del_diabloagliodbs: Hmmmm, reinstall would be cleaner. Do you know how to setup fstab and grub yourself? If you do, then just copying and fixing would be easier. But back to a question: What would you do after copying over to the SSD?21:38
agliodbslast time I ddid this I had to go through like 8 thumbdirves to find one whcih would work21:38
del_diabloagliodbs: unetbootin from windows or linux btw?21:39
kellnola_agliodbs, no dvd/cdrom drive?21:39
agliodbsdel_diablo: after copying to the SSD, remove the HDD from the netbook, and then install the SSD21:39
agliodbskellnola_: netbook21:39
agliodbsdel_diablo: from linux.  I don't own a windows machine21:39
kellnola_hmm, I've never had issues with bootable thumb drives ...21:39
agliodbskellnola_: if you go to the wiki, it warns you that only a minority of thumbdrives actually work and are bootable21:40
agliodbswhich I found to be the case21:40
HodrMy Grub is broken, ubuntu server boots into shell, is there a noob friendly way to fix Grub?21:40
kellnola_guess I'm just lucky then21:40
agliodbsand I've lost the one I used last time ...21:40
old_keyboardHodr: terminal is friendly you just need to read a bit21:41
agliodbsso if I can avoid the thumbdrive route, I'd like to21:41
old_keyboardHodr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#METHOD%203%20-%20CHROOT21:41
Hodrthx21:41
old_keyboardis that what you want right?21:41
agliodbsI'd just do a DD copy, except that the HDD is bigger than the SSD21:41
old_keyboardjust follow the instructions commands21:41
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?21:41
agliodbsso I have to resize at the same time21:41
jwtiyari  cant connect to mu usb huawei modem , i have 10.4 LTS but its working in 10.1021:42
Hodrold_keyboard - will that work with server 10.10?21:42
decksmasherhi guys21:43
agliodbsanyway, I'm still trying to think of a way to do thsi which isn't a royal PITA, and I can't come up with one21:43
Hodrold_keyboard since server doesn't have live CD21:43
old_keyboardHodr: is it 32 oe 64bit?21:43
terrydel_diablo: Just roll the wheel until you get what you want.21:43
Hodrold_keyboard 32b21:43
del_diabloterry: What if I want 12 lines instead of 3? O.o21:43
jwtiyari  cant connect to mu usb huawei modem , i have 10.4 LTS but its working in 10.1021:43
Logan_terry: I think that he is asking about the number of lines scrolled per notch21:43
Logan_!repeat | jwtiyar21:43
ubottujwtiyar: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/21:43
old_keyboardHodr: yeah I dont if Ubuntu Server has livecd :P21:44
old_keyboardknow21:44
nyuszika7hubottu: +1 for AskUbuntu21:44
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:44
jnlsnl_when i add an existing node to my panel, can i choose to exclude the title ?21:44
jnlsnl_err mt21:45
kriume"Extract the downloaded archive (from step 3), use a terminal to navigate to the folder where you extracted it and run: make" <------- i did this but i get this after i write make: "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.""   why????21:45
terrydel_diablo: I do not think gnome has a provision for that type of customization at this time.21:46
ikoniakriume: you need to be in the source dir21:46
ikoniakriume: what are you trying to build?21:46
old_keyboardIs there a way to show full path (/home/xxx) in "Select custom icon" window?21:46
old_keyboardlike in Nautilus21:46
kriumeikonia: whats source dir? i try to install conky colors from this guide: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/conky-colors-makes-your-conky-beautiful.html21:47
suicidoltok, I'm trying to set up a ubuntu usb so I can install it on my netbook and it's not working...unetboot isn't booting from the usb.  Is there a better alternative?21:47
ikoniakriume: is that package not in the repo ?21:47
terrydel_diablo: PageDown or PageUp  is pretty handy, or just holding down the Down or Up arrows works nicely for faster scrolling.21:48
emwhat causes an Ubuntu kernel panic?21:48
kriumeikonia: what do u mean? inside conky folder where i navigated to after try to run "make" there is a makefile , but terminal says there is not21:48
kellnola_agliodbs, you will need some sort of live cd / usb drive type environment to boot into after you install the SSD.21:48
kellnola_agliodbs, unless you do everything perfectly21:48
giffem, bad hardware, driver, kernel bug and so on21:48
kellnola_em, bad hardware, bad software21:48
del_diabloterry: What is I want a spesific behavior that is useful? pg up and down can be 60-70 lines, to much, no flexibility at all....21:49
giffkriume, do you have build essentials installed?21:49
agliodbskellnola_: yeah, I'd come to that conclusion.  hoping the verbatim thumbdrive I have will work21:49
kriumegiff: i dont know21:49
ikonia!info conky-colors21:49
ubottuPackage conky-colors does not exist in maverick21:49
ikoniakriume: you need to be in the extracted directory of the file you've just downloaded21:49
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?21:49
agliodbssuicidolt: thumbdrive booting is very fussy.  it may be that you need a differnt brand of thumbdrive.  what have you tried up to this point?21:50
giffkriume, do this: sudo apt-get install build-essential21:50
kriumeikonia: i am... kristoffer@IMEDIA-4012:~/Nedlastinger/conky-1.8.1$21:50
old_keyboardIs there a way to show full path (/home/xxx) in "Select custom icon" for shortcuts window?21:50
kriumeok giff21:50
intraderjack_^,I get error in using the startupmanager 'Glib-GIO_Error: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.26.1/gio/gdbusconnection.c:2270:initable_init:assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error = NULL) - last lines from statupmanager output21:50
kriumegiff i just did install it, and tried to run "make" again but still cant21:51
ikoniakriume: no, the conky-colors directory, not conky21:51
E21How do I get gecko-mediaplayer to work with Chromium?21:51
terrydel_diablo: KDE has option to change number of lines per notch but I do not think gnome has such a configuration.  I may be wrong but don't think so. You might want to install KDE.21:51
azmHello, how come that updates dont come with new version of firefox?21:51
Logan_!ff4 | azm21:52
ubottuazm: Firefox 4 is the current stable version of Firefox. Current versions of Ubuntu do not have it (see !latest), but there is an unofficial and unsupported PPA that you can use by running the following command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox21:52
agliodbsazm: 4.0 was released less than a week ago.  give us a break21:52
kriumeikonia: i dont know but i pressed that "Download Conky Colors" button from this website http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/conky-colors-makes-your-conky-beautiful.html and it was conky there21:52
emi dont want to hear that's bad hardware because this is my laptop21:52
ikoniakriume: in that directory is there a file called "Makefile"21:52
zertyuihello there21:52
zertyuiunable to install postfix21:52
azmagliodbs, Im sorry but I would think that this is question of hours...21:52
kriumeikonia: but there is not working anyway?? i am inside this folder and try to "make" there is a makefile inside it but terminal cant find21:52
zertyuiwhat's wrong ?21:52
azmLogan_, thank you21:53
firevaiwhere would i go to ask about festival.. the text to speech app? i tried #festival, but there is no one in there.21:53
Logan_azm: you're welcome21:53
zertyuii got this error during the installation of postfix  : http://paste.ubuntu.com/585985/21:53
ikoniakriume: in the directory you are in is there a file called "Makefile"21:53
kriumeikonia: Yes there is 2 makefiles there one ".am" and ".in" files21:53
piotr__elo21:53
ikoniakriume: that is not a makefile21:53
giffkriume, gnome-look.org is down can't try it21:53
ikoniakriume: you need to contact the guide author, his instructions are not correct21:53
giffkriume, what about ./configure21:54
old_keyboardIs there a way to show full path in "Select custom icon" ? http://i56.tinypic.com/2vaehqu.png21:54
kriumegiff: configure: error: Can't locate your X11 installation21:54
del_diabloterry: KDE is ugly and undermantained compared to GNOME....21:54
azmLogan_, why the development team just not include it instead using ppas for various software21:54
azm?21:54
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?21:54
kriumegiff: that was the last line i copied there21:54
intraderjack_^,would it be a problem to install libdesktop-agnostic-xfs-gio to get arround the startupmanager problem?21:54
emwhat's the name for the best color picker you can get in the repos?21:54
kriumegiff: bunch of other text came too21:54
giffold_keyboard, try ctrl+L21:55
giffkriume, looks like a broke package to me21:55
firevaiok guess i'll ask in here then lol.. first of all .. hello to everyone... my question is... i'm trying to use festival with another chat program.. but have no idea where to look to try to get help.. i've googled my brains out, and find nothing.. i had it working a few years ago.. but cant remember how lol. can someone help?21:55
giffwe can't look because the site is down21:55
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Pumpkin-azm: It's because of the way Ubuntu is developed. It isn't a fluid "always up to date" distribution. It is a snapshot of a release date (with security+bugfixes only mostly).21:55
old_keyboardgiff: nope, that only shows the bar21:56
terrydel_diablo: Sorry, but I beg to differ:  KDE is a very powerful window manager. Gnome is too.  They are booth  well maintained.  It is just matter of preference.21:56
del_diabloterry: Powerful != good looking21:56
firevaii think it was a script i got from someone, or a plugin or something21:56
firevaimore sure it was a script lol21:56
kriumegiff: all i did was just move the folder from the "tar.bz2 file to my download directory, is that wrong? should i extract21:56
gartralHello all, I have a CR-48 laptop and i installed ubuntu onto it, but it lacks a bunch of keys and i was hoping that someone could tell me how to make shortcut aliases for pgup, pgdn, end, home and caps lock21:56
intraderjack_^, are you around?21:56
giffold_keyboard, stupid gnome, I call a bug21:57
aStewartS90Anyone know anything about intel mac's on ubuntu?21:57
firevaii have the plugin for pidgin.. but its direct connect ++ i need festival to read lol21:57
old_keyboard:p21:57
azmPumpkin-, is there a way to force the system to use some official bleeding edge mirror ?21:57
giffkriume, copy from the archive window? that extracts it21:57
kriumegiff: yeah21:58
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?21:58
kriumegiff: is there another way to install conky?21:58
suicidoltagliodbs: the same netbook booted fine to linux before with the exact same SD card21:58
giffgartral, there's a helpful thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1048432121:58
rayleehi21:58
giff!conky |kriume21:58
mkanyicyhi raylee21:58
giff!conky | kriume21:58
rayleesup21:58
agliodbssuicidolt: are you trying to boot from the hard disk, or fro a usb drive?21:58
maxagazwhat should I use to record movement of mouse and keyboard to reproduce actions automatically ?21:58
mkanyicyraylee, how can we help you21:59
kriumegiff: gnome-look seems to be down, ill try it lateer21:59
rayleehas anyone had problems with flash21:59
kermitwhen i aptitude remove something, what is the {u} next to some of the package names?21:59
rayleeon ubuntu21:59
mkanyicyraylee, it crashes, on firefox?21:59
arand!flash21:59
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash21:59
giffkriume, what about the one in the repo?21:59
rayleeyes21:59
rayleeon all browesrs21:59
rayleethat i use21:59
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mkanyicyraylee, i think that version has a problem22:00
kriumegiff: whats repo?22:00
rayleei use ubuntu 9.1022:00
giff!repo | kriume22:00
ubottukriume: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories22:00
license2grillHi there22:00
Pumpkin-azm: you can always go play with narwhal. I'm not sure if Ubuntu has a "always track the bleeding edge" option like Debian has unstable or not. (someone else will know).22:00
kriumegiff: i dont know22:01
del_diablo!patience | terry22:01
ubottuterry: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/22:01
mkanyicyhi license2grill22:01
wildc4rdout of interest, I have a netbook on Maverick, hooked up to a 24 inch monitor, is there any way I can make firefox default to open on the big screen?22:01
giffhave you tried it? install with sudo apt-get install conky22:01
giffkriume, ^22:01
license2grillRaylee, I saw a post on WebUpd8 about using chrome flash plugin in Firefox22:01
fisch246when referring to IP addresses and CIDR... if i say 192.168.0.0/16 is it just like me saying 192.168.0-255.0-255?22:01
azmPumpkin-, ok, thanks for giving me smile on the first sentence.22:01
kriumegiff: seems like i have to wait anyway because the gnome-look is down, and yeah i had downloaded conky and not conky colours i dont know how that happened22:01
newbie01Does anyone know a lyx channel22:02
photonwhat's the easiest way to type IPA symbols without using the "character map" app?22:03
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?22:03
gartralgiff: i don't think those instructions are useful for me.. at least i don't understand the bindings.. it looks like those bindings are standard keys for the functions (like f11 is fullscreen but my keyboard only goes up too f10)22:03
kriumegiff: yeah but i need conky colors! xD22:03
giffkriume, why? what's the difference?22:04
kriumegiff: i dont know, but the commands i trying to do from this guide i cant because i dont have conky colors22:05
giffgartral, sorry i don't have a cr48 (envy)22:05
giffkriume, why not use plane conly and a guide for that?22:05
newbie01im looking for a document setting in lyx that puts a scientific article in 2 columns?22:05
giffkriume, see wiki here http://wiki.conky.be/index.php?title=FAQ and https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Conky22:05
|Long|when you install program what directory will be? /etc or /bin?22:06
giffkriume, plain*22:06
Fuchs|Long|: the binary itself will be in /bin, /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin  (should never be the case by apps out of an official package)22:06
kriumegiff: i dont like the plane conky it was just black with white ugly and gets over my desktop icons22:07
|Long|Fuchs, thanks22:07
Fuchs|Long|: stetings, however, will go to /etc, things like pictures and sounds to share (or /usr/share), and libraries to /lib or /usr/lib.22:07
suicidoltagliodbs I'm trying to boot from a sd card, which is how I set up the computer I'm on right now with ubuntu, but I had to format the sd card22:07
Fuchs|Long|: you can use the command `whereis`  or `which` to locate a binary, and list files of a package with dpkg22:07
giffkriume, nothing you couldn't change22:07
|Long|alright cool Fuchs22:07
del_diabloHow do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?22:08
kriumegiff: i dont know how22:08
agliodbssuicidolt: oh, I can't help with that.  I'm abut to do that for the first time22:08
intraderAnyone, I have used the startupmanager  to select the previous kernel - that works but now what happens ti the next update?22:08
old_keyboardAnyone knows if there is a way to show full path in "Select custom icon" ? http://i56.tinypic.com/2vaehqu.png (ctrl+l does nothing)22:08
giffkriume, see the conky wiki for more info22:08
giffdel_diablo, learn vim or emacs dammit :P22:08
suicidoltI am having troublt installing linux, could anyone help me?  for some reason my computer is no longer booting from either my flash drive or my sd card22:08
Secluded1check your bios,22:09
suicidoltSecluded1: I did, it says it's booting from removable devices first22:09
|Long|Fuchs, i asked one guy i know not long over see my glftpd while i was on vacation..i dont know what kind of crypt script he installed on my system its hide all my hard drives22:10
suicidoltbut then it opens windows22:10
kriumegiff: doesent looks like it can do mutch just stuff like this http://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=36652 pretty ugly lol22:10
Secluded1what is the model/brand of your computer? some have a separate for drives first22:10
suicidoltasus 900hd22:10
|Long|Fuchs, can youi help me?22:11
giffkriume, you think so? I'd join the arch forum and get on this thread: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=39906&p=1 ;)22:11
Fuchs|Long|: probably not, since I don't know what or where he might have installed and how.22:11
|Long|Fuch, alright cool22:12
Fuchs|Long|: if he used the package management, which I doubt, then you can get a list of recently installed software. If he did it by hand, you have to look by yourself22:12
|Long|he did by dpkg22:12
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giffkriume, when I think about it I'm pretty sure conky-colors is just a "skin" for vanilla conky22:12
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|Long|i checked on history/logs22:12
kriumegiff: ill chek it out22:13
del_diabloWhere in the obscurity of xorg do I change a global value that controls how many lines a application scrolls?22:13
cyryleeee22:13
terry|Long|: ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info/*list  #Will show the latest installed last22:13
cyrylwhat up?22:14
|Long|terry, i found it thanks, but what is the cmd to un-install it?22:15
giffdel_diablo, I'm sure you already saw that (first hit on google) but: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=628725 also it doesn't work that's why you don't get any replies.22:15
terry|Long|: apt-get remove <pkg-name-here>22:16
suicidoltSecluded1: asus 900hd22:16
the_corehello can someone help me,I have ubuntu netbook installed on my lapyop,and I removed mutter..now I have no desktop but docky :S22:16
kriumegiff: gnome-look.org is up again , ill try22:16
Secluded1ok22:16
del_diablogiff: thanks22:16
del_diablogiff: (do you have the xset version of that?)22:17
guntbertintrader: the worst that can happen is that you have to choose your preferred kernel once from the grub menu22:17
terry|Long|: or  dpkg -r <pkg-name-here>22:17
giffdel_diablo, no sorry22:17
terry|Long|: Either should do fine for you.22:18
intraderAnyone, I have used the startupmanager  to select the previous kernel - that works, however started from the terminal gives and error in GLIB-GIO22:18
|Long|terry, let me try22:18
alex88hi guys, normally on netbook remix, how should i see network forlders and usb?22:18
intraderguntbert, ans what happens upon the auto-update? I think that the update has a problem with the new driver for nvidia.22:19
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giffkriume, I can "make" must be on your end22:20
giffkriume, ls should read AUTHORS  ChangeLog  conkycolors  COPYING  fonts  Makefile  README  src if it doesn't you are in the wrong directory22:21
guntbertintrader: sorry, I didn't follow your problem, generally a new kernel doesn't replace the old one bit is added to the list - so you just select the old one again22:21
oscarhi all I can't see nor send webcam on amsn and the solutions posted on their site don't work any suggestions??22:21
ct529Hi!I need to draw the plan of a flat, with dimensions, and then do a 3D elevation. This time I would liket o do it on linux. Do you know of a package? I did some googliing but did not find an answer .... anyone with a clue?22:21
kriumegiff: in this conky_colors folder i have no problems and here is makefile ok22:21
kriume:)22:21
area51pilothow do I repair a WUBI installation that wont boot22:22
jribct529: blender if you want 3d modelling software22:22
slakcDBAN'd (dodshort) two Maxtor 20GB IDE drives, have them setup on the same IDE cable in the 0 and 1 positions, ubuntu server 8.04 install disk is not detecting a loadable driver for them and asking me to choose, i have tried all the ide ones and the raid one as well, it is asking if I want to load one via fd0.. anyone?22:22
slakcI am shooting for software RAID 122:22
intradergunthert, thanks - let's wait and see. The startup manage has selected the kernel that works. 'The Newsr one" does not work because of a problem with nvidia22:23
terryslakc: fd0 is probably not going to do you any good.22:23
suicidoltwhat's an alternative to unetbootin22:23
terryslakc: You can't upgrade to newer version?22:24
kriumegiff: i followed rest of the guide, but when i come to "make install" i cant install and i get error: ""mkdir: can not create directory "/ usr / share / fonts / TTF": Do not access22:24
giffkriume, you need to sudo  that22:24
kriumegiff: sudo make install then?22:24
giffyes22:24
alex88hi guys, normally on netbook remix, how should i see network forlders and usb?22:25
guntbertintrader: be confident, there will be nothing that you cannot get around from the grub menu (do you see it every time you boot?)22:25
slakcterry: this is a new install and the installer is adking me to install the hard disk driver with a floppy disk to continue the installation and read/write to the disks22:25
del_diabloDoes there exist a xset version of Option "VertScrollDelta" "6"?22:26
intradergunthert, yes, but that is Ok since I changed the default22:26
kriumegiff: ok everything went fine now, but when i start conky now i still have the old shitty conky look22:26
guntbert!tab | intrader :)22:26
ubottuintrader :): You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.22:26
kermitwhen i aptitude remove something, what is the {u} next to some of the package names?22:27
guntbertintrader: yes, I always want to see the grub menu22:27
intraderguntbert, does not work with charzilla22:27
kriumegiff: i did everything right from this guide http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/conky-colors-makes-your-conky-beautiful.html22:27
intraderguntbert, chatzilla I meant22:27
guntbertintrader: it certainly does, but it is no real problem either :)22:28
johnny77How do I remove a image from my grub menu? My /etc/default/grub file does not specify a background, but one appears.22:29
giffkriume, did you start conky or conky-colors?22:29
intraderguntbert: yes it does but there must be more than one gun... Thanks22:29
kriumegiff: conky, like it says in the guide22:29
guntbertintrader: then press <tab> several times :-)22:29
giffkriume, what about step 4 b?22:29
prappl93How do I sync music to my iPod Touch 4th Generation with iOS4.3?22:30
intraderguntbert: yes, thanks22:30
guntbertintrader: :)22:30
kriumegiff: i dident do that one yet, because it doesent seem to work anyway :S22:30
giffkriume, then there is an error somewhere above22:30
kriumegiff: u think it will work if i do that?22:30
abdiI'm sorry I is disturbing but not available here German-language chat22:31
kriumegiff: meaybe restart, or try to reinstall ?22:31
ijfisdjfiojHey22:31
ijfisdjfiojI'm looking for help running Oblivion on Ubuntu 10.1022:31
giffkriume, log out should suffice but I doubt it's that, you really should be able to start the conky you just compiled in your home22:31
umbuntpeople ubuntu didnt make the 10.04 64bit upgrade easy for me let me tell you.22:32
giffkriume, killall conky22:32
kriumegiff: i did that too22:32
jribumbunt: hmm?  Do you have a support question? :)22:32
kriumegiff: and tried to restart conky again, many times22:32
umbunti think i got it all figured but thanks.22:33
jribumbunt: ok, keep in mind this channel is for support22:33
kriumegiff: but ill try to killall conky now and try to reistall from the conky colors22:33
umbuntbe on standby22:33
umbunti know im listening22:33
guntbert!de | abdi22:33
ubottuabdi: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.22:33
ronyhi22:33
cha0s2358how do I upgrade my firefox version via terminal so as to not lose all my bookmarks and such22:34
jribcha0s2358: update-manager handles upgrading of packages.  What do you want to accomplish exactly?22:34
abhishekhi22:35
cha0s2358jrib i tried update manager but it didn't install the new firefox 4 i'm still running version 3.6.1622:35
jrib!firefox4 | cha0s235822:35
ubottucha0s2358: Firefox 4 is the current stable version of Firefox. Current versions of Ubuntu do not have it (see !latest), but there is an unofficial and unsupported PPA that you can use by running the following command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox22:35
cha0s2358jrib thank you22:36
umbuntthis is not a support question but why is 64 bit so much more buggy than 32 bit?22:36
jribumbunt: how is it more buggy?22:36
redi've had no probs with 64bit22:36
umbuntit seems tempermental to me22:36
jbatista!latest22:37
ubottuPackages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.22:37
jribubottu: too vague22:37
jribumbunt: too vague22:37
jbatista!backports22:37
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging22:37
kriumegiff: i tried to relog user  and its still not working, i know i installed conky colors right and all.... do u have any idea about why its not working?22:37
umbuntit doesnt like stuff22:37
LjLjrib: no criticizing ubottu22:37
license2grillI'm running Maverick 64Bit no prob on my XPS 1622:37
jbatista!packaging22:37
ubottuThe packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports22:37
jribLjL: ubottu knows I only tease him playfully!22:37
jbatista!sru22:37
ubottuStable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates22:37
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ijfisdjfiojerr:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x137bdbf4 "dsoundrender.c: DSoundRenderImpl.csFilter" wait timed out in thread 001d, blocked by 0025, retrying (60 sec)22:38
ijfisdjfiojThat's my problem22:38
umbuntbut its working now so good22:38
ijfisdjfiojIt's the output of wine while trying to start a new Oblivion game22:38
del_diabloDoes there exist a xset version of Option "VertScrollDelta" "6"?22:39
James1293Hey everyone! My HDD with ubuntu on it is really small, and I'm trying to move some of the stuff to my external harddrive. Can I safely use this guide http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/ to move folders other than the home folder to the external hard drive?22:39
ChrisBuchholzHey guys. I am looking for a good screen recorder (with gui) for ubuntu. Can you guys recommend any? I have tried tibesti and kazam, neither worked for me properly22:39
_numbersi just installed ubuntu 10.10 and did updates. then i rebooted it was fine. i installed some more software. now when i reboot i am stuck in a memtest loop22:39
_numbersmemtest completes 100% successful, machine reboots, memtest begins again22:39
_numbersi dont even see the grub menu to choose ubuntu22:40
_numbersany ideas?22:40
old_keyboardIf I change /etc/motd does it update the system info after a kernel update?22:40
ct529jrib: mmmm .... I need real dimensions to give to the builder22:40
ct529jrib: so blender does not seem to be an option22:40
abhishekold_keyboard ya22:40
umbunti was just making the point that you seem to have less functionality with 64bit in my oppinion , but i dont really know anything so boooo22:41
jribct529: if you know of a windows option you might try searching specifically for a linux alternative to that option22:41
jbatistaChrisBuchholz on the console do apt-cache search record | grep screen22:41
old_keyboardabhishek: so I need to change it everytime kernel updates?22:41
ct529jrib: like autocad?22:41
abhishekno nt really22:41
license2grillJames1293: stuff like that is never "safe". Back up your files, because if you do this there is always a chance you break something22:41
del_diabloJames1293: You still need to do some arcane wizardry with fstab and grub....22:41
jbatistaChrisBuchholz you have gtk-recordmydesktop which looks promissing22:41
old_keyboardabhishek: do you know what im talking about?22:42
jribct529: google points out qcad, try that22:42
giffkriume, ok so you run conky-colors with the options you want eg: conky-colors --theme=gnome-noble --lang=pt --cpu=4 --network --hd=default --pidgin then you run: conky -c /home/kriume/.conkycolors/conkyrc22:42
old_keyboardabhishek: if you dont know stop "helping"  >  " This will work for now, but on reboot the file is reconstructed by the /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh script. It writes out "uname -snrvm" to /var/run/motd (/etc/motd is a symbolic link to /var/run/motd) and then adds the text from /etc/motd.tail"22:42
umbuntis the 64 bit version safer from viruses/malware?22:43
old_keyboardno it's same as 3222:43
James1293license2grill, del_diablo: would it be safer to move the entire installation to another partition, or more problematic?22:43
old_keyboardno virus.22:43
boonecan someone please help me with a game installation?22:44
kriumegiff: that just opened the default black and white conky22:44
old_keyboardumbunt: use 64bit if you have more than 3.2 GB of RAM22:44
jribold_keyboard: have you read « man update-motd »? I think that's standard on ubuntu nowadays22:44
edbianumbunt, No.  But 32 bit is still remarkably safe compared to windows22:44
old_keyboardjrib: ty22:44
del_diabloJames1293: Equally problematic and safe. I recommend to run cp -r / *externla hd* and then fixing up fstab and grub,22:44
umbuntjust wondering22:44
edbianumbunt, :)22:44
the_coreterry,you got a minute?22:44
giffkriume, you may need to adapt the thing after -c so it actually points to the correct file, running conky-colors gives you the path anyway ;)22:45
umbunt3.2 g huh wow im not even close22:45
ct529jrib: not really, qcad is 2D only22:45
suicidoltI work a lot with pdf character sheet with editable fields...is there any pdf viewer that can allow me to use those fields? so far I haven't found one22:45
kriumegiff : i want to uinsall conky and reinsatall, how do i completly remove it?22:45
del_diabloJames1293: Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling from LiveCD and this one: http://www.dreamincode.net/forums/topic/40971-how-to-setup-manage-your-fstab-for-auto-mounting/22:45
packerboy256boone: what game?  have you tried wine?22:45
giffkriume, why do you want to do that?22:45
edbianumbunt, Yeah, that's the main advantage of 64bit OS / hardware22:45
old_keyboardjrib: On Ubuntu systems, /etc/motd is typically a symbolic link to /var/run/motd.22:45
booneI managed to install - Lord of the Rings Online game - However, it will not play22:45
edbiankriume, sudo apt-get purge conky22:45
kriumegiff: because i think something is wrong22:45
edbiankriume, And it's probably safe to remove the hidden .conky folder in your home as well22:46
packerboy256boone: what does it do when you try to play?22:46
del_diabloJames1293: And this one http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html too22:46
giffkriume, I think it works as intended... can you post the output of the conky-color command to a pastbin?22:46
booneIt starts to load then just quits22:46
kriumegiff: conky-color: command not found22:46
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kriumeedbian: what does that command do?22:47
license2grillJames1293: I would recommend, if possible for you, to do a fresh installation and partition your system to your liking that way. When you are don, just copy your files where you want them. It's the easyer, safer way to go.22:47
the_corehello can someone help me,I have ubuntu netbook installed on my laptop,and I removed mutter..now I have no desktop but docky :S22:47
giffkriume, what? did you sudo make install it?22:47
kriumegiff: that what edbian said? no22:47
del_diabloDoes there exist a xset version of Option "VertScrollDelta" "6"?22:47
edbiankriume, purge (as opposed to remove) removes all the files placed by the installer instead of just most of them.  In particular /etc/* files which are config files22:47
giffkriume, ediban's command it will remove conky, mine installs conky-color22:47
edbiangiff, I said apt-get purge instead of apt-get remove22:48
giffkriume, use mine...22:48
SightUpi am doing updates using the update manager, a lot of them are failing. why?22:48
kriumegiff: wich one?22:48
kriumegiff: wich command22:48
umbuntim running a 2 inch laptop drive with cheap addapter,2 maxtors set up for raid1 i, 2 512 kingstons RAM, ASUS k8-se,and a 512 radeon, and it seems to work oK.22:48
edbiankriume, giff Are why trying to remove conky or not?22:48
giffkriume, sudo make install22:48
packerboy256boone: you're using wine, right?22:48
giffedbian, no, we are trying to fix conky...22:48
booneCan this game be played on Ubuntu 10.10?22:48
kriumeedbian: i am still trying to get it to work, it i will fail many times more i will remove it later and try to reinstall it, but not yet22:49
giffedbian, kriume thought deinstalling would somehow help to fix it22:49
booneyes I am using wine22:49
edbiangiff, Oops!  sorry22:49
edbiankriume, I was only telling how to remove it.  I did not know the bigger goal.22:49
packerboy256boone: should be able to, according to this http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=489122:50
thesebhelp! *where* postfix puts errors? i can't find the log22:50
packerboy256strange22:50
kriumegiff: sudo make install what? i have installed conky colors already22:50
edbianbrb22:50
kriumeedbian: thanks22:50
booneHowever, I do not know if I have anything setup right - very new to this OS22:50
giffkriume, I was just asking if you had; but why can't you execute it then?22:50
del_diabloDoes there exist a xset version of Option "VertScrollDelta" "6"?22:50
giffkriume, in the conky-clolors folder execute ./conky-colors22:51
kriumegiff: i just ran the command again and it came output textm wait a sec and ill upload it22:51
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giffkriume, help text I assume, then: ./conky-colors --theme=gnome-noble --lang=pt --cpu=4 --network --hd=default --pidgin22:51
kriumegiff: http://www.heypasteit.com/clip/VBR22:52
kriumeok22:52
giffkriume, very good, so it works :D22:52
booneThank you for the link - I will see what I can find there22:52
the_corehello can someone help me,I have ubuntu netbook installed on my laptop,and I removed mutter..now I have no desktop but docky :S22:52
old_keyboard!botsnack22:53
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!22:53
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kriumegiff: but ./confy-colors dont work says No such file or filecataloge22:53
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giffkriume, you mistyped it ;) conFy22:53
xlogikthe_core: have you tried to reinstall?22:54
the_corexlogik: I am new to this,not sure what to do22:54
kriumegiff: conky-colors doent work too22:54
FelixiaAmaze22:54
umbuntif you have a 2 in laptop drive that spins at 4300 rpm does that equal about the same speed as a 3.5 that spins at 7200 rpm?22:54
kriumegiff: i misstyped it here on irc, not in the terminal22:54
FelixiaÅñòü ðóññêèå?22:55
BentFranklinAnyone know a command-line program that will read in an mp3 and write the beats per minute to stdout?22:55
edbianumbunt, No.  Because reading the data off the hdd still has a static speed.  If you striped (via a raid) it would be.22:55
giffkriume, "./conky-colors" followed by all the options22:55
edbianumbunt, *it would be faster.  But probably not 4300 + 4300 faster.22:55
giffkriume, just copy/paste what I wrote22:55
old_keyboardFelixia: country?22:55
unknownbithi im new in this ubuntu thing, is it good idea to install ubuntu on SSD?22:55
xlogikthe_core: goto the ubuntu  software Center and search for docky22:55
umbunti see22:55
edbianunknownbit, Sure.  I don't see why not.22:55
old_keyboardunknownbit: you can install any OS22:55
old_keyboardlol.22:55
kriumegiff: i only get bash: ./conky-colors: Ingen slik fil eller filkatalog22:56
FelixiaRussia22:56
unknownbitext3 or ext4?22:56
old_keyboard!ru | Felixia22:56
ubottuFelixia: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke22:56
kriumegiff: no such file or filecataloge22:56
eth00umbunt also if you do something like RAID0 consider that either one failing will cause everything to be lost22:56
edbianunknownbit, ext4 but that's not because you're using a SSD22:56
giffkriume, wrong dir? pwd22:56
giffkriume, I mean it just worked...22:56
the_corexlogik: docky is working,but nothing else on my desktop is,no netbook dock or taskbar22:56
unknownbitthx22:57
xlogikthe_core: or get to the commandline and type "sudo apt-get install docky"22:57
kriumegiff: the command "conky-colors" worked but not with ./ in front22:57
xlogikok22:57
unknownbitext3 doesnt have TRIM right?22:57
giffkriume, good, then try the whole thing (options) and paste it22:57
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kriumegiff: without ./ in front then?22:58
the_corexlogik: is there a way to restore back to the settings I had yesterday?22:58
spid3rnethow now somthing aboute pentration testing to have a web_shell via 3306 port "mysql"22:58
giffkriume, yes22:58
umbuntwell if it spins at 4300 rpm than it doesnt spin faster than that but does it have the same performance charicteristics of a 3.5 that spins at 7200 rpm22:58
lefty_allyOKAY QUICK QUESTION22:59
umbuntsince its smaller22:59
del_diabloDoes there exist a xset version of Option "VertScrollDelta" "6"?22:59
lefty_allyHOW DO I GET WIFI WORKING22:59
lefty_ally????22:59
giffkriume, update: I think I solved the whole problem: conky-colors --lang=english --theme=ambiance --cpu=2 --cputemp --swap --updates --hdtemp1=sda --proc=3 --clock=modern --nvidia --calendar --network --rhythmbox=case --ubuntu22:59
RubenAlonzogreetings everyone.23:00
giffkriume, just have a look at the last two lines, they should say: To run conky-colors and conky type: conky -c /home/...23:00
edbianumbunt: Striping definitely has a performance increase, that's the point of it.  Weather it's drive1 + drive2 or now I don't know.  Seems unlikely to me that it is though.  There is probably some overhead.23:00
ayeceedel_diablo: not according to the manpage, i'm afraid.23:00
giffkriume, execute that and you got yourself a working conky-colors23:01
umbuntno23:01
edbianumbunt: All I can say for sure is that the performance while striping is at least the speed of the slowest drive but not more than the combined speeds of both drives23:01
kriumegiff: it worked without ./ in front but look at this http://www.heypasteit.com/clip/VBU23:01
xlogikthe_core: you have to get to the commandline by pressing ctrl+alt+F1 and logging in and then typing sudo apt-get install docky23:01
lefty_allyHOW DO I GET WIFI TO WORK?23:01
kriumegiff: the "Conky: attempting to use more CPUs than you have!"23:01
NictraSaviosLmao this feels soooooo weird. Im in a ubuntu chatroom... and im on windows. >.<23:01
jrib!caps | lefty_ally23:01
ubottulefty_ally: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.23:01
jrib!wifi | lefty_ally23:02
ubottulefty_ally: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs23:02
umbunti see23:02
bl4ckcomb`lefty_ally, do a barrel roll23:02
NictraSaviosAnyway, im here to help. On a partners computer23:02
giffkriume, modify the --cpu=2 (replace with 1)23:02
RubenAlonzoleft_ally have you tried different drivers for your device?23:02
* lefty_ally does a barrel roll23:02
edbianumbunt: For example, you can spin and read data off of both hdd's at the same time.  This would obviously be 2X's the slower drive, but the processor still can only read 1 stream at a time.23:02
giffkriume, (it's in the first command)23:02
nickals5v5 ts/ctf scrim vs glad23:02
kriumegiff: hey it worked now! :D23:03
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lefty_allyi just need to know the package i need to get to get it working. says im missing software23:03
spid3rnethow now somthing aboute pentration testing to have a web_shell via 3306 port "mysql"23:03
giffkriume, what did I tell you :)23:03
kriumegiff: thanks! but its totaly transparent, how do i fix that?23:03
c001anyone familiar with that sony vaio z series laptop?23:03
ayeceelefty_ally: what says you're missing software?23:03
gruglican some of you guys tell me about the state of Moonlight on Ubuntu?23:04
lefty_allyayecee says "device not ready (firmware missing)"23:04
RubenAlonzolefty_ally: what releaseof ubuntu are you using? i have 10.10 netbook and everything worked flawlessly right after the install, i even did 10.04 lucid and THAT worked fine as well. what pc are you on?23:04
old_keyboardIs ifup and ifdown the same as ifconfig ?23:04
gruglii'm trying to run a silverlight app and it doesn't display anything23:04
umbuntim lost , do you think im trying to raid because my raid is two idenical maxtors my system is in the 2 inch with windows/grub/ubuntu23:04
edbianRubenAlonzo: Just because Ubuntu works for your hardware (regardless of version) does not mean it will work perfect for his.23:05
lefty_allyRubenAlonzo hp mini series 210 - 110023:05
ayeceelefty_ally: looks like you probably need b43-fwcutter23:05
edbianumbunt: What?23:05
edbianayecee: Almost always, that's the case.23:05
RubenAlonzoedbian: thats true, and i did not mean to take it for granted that it would but perhaps more driver support is available for the 10.10 release than maybe older releases?23:05
edbianRubenAlonzo: That's true.  He should be using the newest stable release.23:06
kriumegiff: do u know?23:06
lefty_allyayeece i searched but nothing shows23:06
firevaihi everyone.. i've seemed to have deleted my taskbar at the bottom.. somehow emerald theme manager was down there, and i couldnt close it... so i deleted it from panel, and lost my taskbar, with trash bin and stuff.. how can i fix this goof?23:06
ayeceelefty_ally: which version of ubuntu?23:07
lefty_ally10.1023:07
bastidrazor!resetpanel | firevai23:07
ubottufirevai: To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »23:07
edbianfirevai: Click the top panel.  Add a new panel.  Rebuild it the panel manually.23:07
umbuntmy system is on the 2inch ata as ide 1, my raid is the two sata drives configured for raid23:07
infidwhen i drag an mp3 from nautilus to my ipod in Rhythmbox, it takes like 20 tries of drag/dropping before it finally works. Why is that?23:07
lefty_allyayecee 10.1023:08
edbianumbunt: I didn't realize you had 3 drives.  What is your question then?  (I answered the performance question right?)23:08
James1293del_diablo: one more thing: you said it would take "arcane wizardry with grub and fstab". The site I was looking at made it look like an easy fstab edit and no touch grub, if I'm only moving home folder. Does that sound right? (the site is http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/)23:08
umbuntnevermind23:08
ayeceelefty_ally: huh. should be there. maybe use the hardware drivers applet instead - click on system, adminsitration, hardware drivers23:08
edbianumbunt: ok23:08
firevaiyikes23:09
edbianayecee: lefty_ally sudo apt-get update if things are missing23:09
firevaithat made it worse23:09
firevaigconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel23:09
firevailost everything at the top right now23:09
firevaibottom is back, but its mucked up looking23:09
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PolahWhat repos do I need to add to be able to get Sun Java 6 on ubuntu 10.0423:09
hd1boss issued an apt-get dist-upgrade and is upgrading java, taking up 100% of the CPU (openjdk-<mumble>), but if I kill the process, it wants me to still reconfigure it, how do I remove the package?23:10
giffkriume, open the conky file in gedit search for own_window_transparent and replace yes with no23:10
infidPolah: you dont need a repo, just download the tar, and install to /opt23:10
hasanis it possible to write directly to a device without caching first?23:10
firevaiyikes now i cant add to the top panel23:10
hasanis it possible with the mounting option "-o sync"23:10
hasan?23:10
old_keyboardPolah: canonical partners i think23:10
edbianfirevai: is it locked?23:10
infidPolah: just get the binary tarball so you dont have to compile, that is a packagfe23:10
ayeceehasan: -o sync won't do that23:10
ayeceehasan: -o sync just makes it so that the write won't return until the data has been committed to disk23:11
ayeceeis that what you want?23:11
Polahold_keyboard, archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner?23:11
firevaium23:11
old_keyboardIs there a difference between "ifconfig eth0 up" and "ifup eth0"?23:11
RubenAlonzolefty_ally: do you have ethernet working if you plug it in? seems you have to manually plug it in to internet then do update and it will work, at least on the help forums the other person who posted with your exact model did that and it worked fine after update23:11
suicidoltis there an ubuntu pdf reader that will allow me to edit field?23:11
kriumegiff: where is that file located23:11
edbianfirevai: um...23:11
firevaino23:11
firevaiman23:11
RubenAlonzohope it helps in any case23:11
firevaithis sucks23:11
FloodBot3firevai: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:11
lefty_allyedbian how would i do that?23:12
hasanayecee: so which possibilities do i have?23:12
edbianlefty_ally: Do what?23:12
firevaii cant even add a clock to the top panel23:12
hasanto get more write performance on a device?23:12
giffkriume, gedit /home/kristoffer/.conkycolors/conkyrc23:12
old_keyboardsuicidolt: yes there is23:12
firevaiwell its there .. i just cant see it23:12
lefty_allyedbian apt-get23:12
suicidoltold_keyboard: what' it called?23:12
old_keyboardsuicidolt: pfedit23:12
lefty_allyor what ever it was23:12
hasancause I can see that the kernel is caching first, and writes to the device like with a 10 sec interval23:12
old_keyboardsuicidolt: pffedit23:12
James1293del_diablo: never mind, I'm just going to delete some stuff23:12
suicidoltpffedit?23:12
Polahold_keyboard, thanks it picks it up now23:12
old_keyboardsuicidolt: ooops pdfedit23:12
firevaibrb23:12
RubenAlonzolefty_ally: apt-get install nameofsoftware23:13
ayeceehasan: what's the problem with that?23:13
RubenAlonzobrb23:13
old_keyboardsuicidolt: I just go to software center and search pdf editor ;)23:13
edbianlefty_ally: apt-get?  apt-get is a program used to install software from the repositories.  It is the front-end to the package manager.  What in the big picture are you trying to do?23:13
kriumegiff: there is no such folder in my home folder23:13
Polahlefty_ally, rubenalonzo: Need to append sudo if you're not root, remember23:13
lefty_allyedbian where would i enter ?23:13
gaddafihey guys23:14
edbianlefty_ally: In a terminal.  Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal23:14
gaddafidst time is set tonight23:14
gaddafiwe time travel 60 minutes into the future23:14
ayeceegaddafi: in some countries, yes23:14
old_keyboardlefty_ally: ctrl+alt+t to open a terminal23:14
gaddafiwill gnome set it automatically?23:14
hasanayecee: I want it to copy faster23:14
hasanayecee: gotta go to a party xD23:14
ayeceegaddafi: linux will, yes23:14
old_keyboardgaddafi: time travel?23:14
ayeceehasan: write caching improves performance. disabling caching won't improve performance.23:15
old_keyboardyou mean hour will change?23:15
hasanayecee: i c. thx23:15
gaddafiold_keyboard, yeah23:15
old_keyboardk23:15
hd1gaddafi: depends on your location23:15
kriumegiff: nvm just found out that was a command u writed so i got i tnow23:15
PolahHow can I set locale from command line? dpkg-reconfigure locale and localeconf don't work23:15
lefty_allyok in terminal!!!!!!!!!!!!!23:16
umbunthow do i find the registry in linux.?23:16
gaddafithe registry?23:16
oasisTopherproblem, when I run a script that contains "VBoxManage controlvm Watermains savestate && sudo halt"  it fails to boot back up completely (stuck at flashing _ symbol) but when I run that command manually on command line, it boots back up fine23:16
lefty_allyedbian i am in terminal23:16
umbuntye like windows23:16
ayeceeumbunt: unlike windows, there is not a central registry in linux.23:16
edbianlefty_ally: Question.  Are you connected to the Internet?23:16
pfifowhat is the license on the fonts installed in /usr/share/fonts23:16
umbunti know its modilar right what exactly does that mean/23:17
edbianumbunt: There isn't one.  Closest thing is gconf-editor23:17
umbuntgoogl it23:17
lefty_allyedbian yes but not with ubuntu23:17
umbunti know this i was joking to see waht you would say23:17
edbianumbunt: Modular (in a general sense) means the parts can easily be removed and replaced.23:17
edbianlefty_ally: The command I was going to give you (sudo apt-get update) only works if you are online.23:18
lefty_allyfuck!23:18
umbuntthat is window big flaw huh23:18
edbianlefty_ally: Please don't swear.23:18
lefty_allysorry23:18
edbianumbunt: What is?  Having a registry?23:18
lefty_allybut why is wifi not working?23:18
umbuntyou think not?23:19
edbianlefty_ally: Because the software that is needed to make the card work is proprietary and does not come with Ubuntu by default23:19
suicidoltold_keyboard: that didn't work..I'm trying to put text in form fields that are built into these pdfs, I don't want to change the existing text on the pdf23:19
MGdroinoghola23:20
umbuntnot so much a registry but the way evything is bunched together in it23:20
edbianumbunt: There are pros. For example reading from the registry is faster than individual files.23:20
Polah!es > MGdroinog23:20
ubottuMGdroinog, please see my private message23:20
edbianumbunt: The lack of modularity increases complexity.  That is something I don't like.23:20
lefty_allyedbian : basically i am screwed23:20
umbuntyes but ther are cons 2 such as virs and malware23:20
Polahedbian: how would that work. Surely reading from the registry would require passing over it's entirety and then selecting the specific parts; whereas from a single file would require just loading that probably small file23:21
edbianlefty_ally: Connect the machine to the Internet in some other way.  There is a way to get the package and software manually using jump drives and such.23:21
jribold_keyboard: why did you tell me before that on ubuntu systems /etc/motd is typically a symbolic link to /var/run/motd?  I'm not sure if you were trying to ask me something with that statement23:21
Polahlefty_ally: Surely your computer has an ethernet socket?23:21
edbianPolah: I don't really know.  I just read it on wikipedia.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Registry23:21
lefty_allyPolah yes23:21
edbianPolah: Read the rationale part.23:21
old_keyboardjrib: editing motd wont do &%%23:22
lefty_allyedbian23:22
edbianumbunt: Well the lack of modularity is not what makes windows less secure than linux.23:22
edbianlefty_ally:23:22
lefty_allyi have an ethernet cable23:22
jribold_keyboard: ok, but that's not what I suggested23:22
edbianlefty_ally: Then plug it in.23:22
giffkriume, I was disconnected, did you ping me in the last couple of minutes?23:22
edbianlefty_ally: 'duh'23:22
old_keyboardjrib: i was reading update-motd23:23
lefty_allyedbian too what ?23:23
lefty_allylol23:23
umbuntmicrosoft doent even care about xp/media center anmore its going to have the same fate as 9823:23
cordellIs there any advantage of using a 64 bit system over a 32 bit system, except for addressing more than 4 Gb of ram, which is over come with a pae enabled kernel.23:23
Polahedbian: I guess it would be quicker if the entire registry was loaded on boot and kept in memory23:23
edbianlefty_ally: Do you have a router / cable modem?  How are you getting Internet in the first place?23:23
Dr_Williscordell:  some tasks can be faster.23:23
edbianPolah: I suppose?  (I kinda doubt that's the case, the registry is huge)23:23
jribold_keyboard: yes, that details how and where you can modify motd23:23
lefty_allyedbian wirlessly but router in a diff room.23:23
edbianlefty_ally: Move the machine.23:23
Dr_Williscordell:  and for my home lan. im better off doing all 64bit on all machines. vs 32 on some and 64 on others.23:24
edbianlefty_ally: No offense but this isn't exactly hard to figure out.23:24
lefty_allyedbian brothers room.23:24
cordellDr_Willis: such as compiling? i wont be doing any of that23:24
Polahedbian: That's what I thought. To get one part it would have to load the entire thing each time before it could read it, even without the need to parse23:24
umbuntxp is booo,now its all about vista23:24
lefty_allyhe is not so friendly23:24
Dr_Williscordell:  any math intensive tasks.. video ecodeing and so on.23:24
kriumegiff: no, i am trying to use somebody elses confyrc file now from this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=1672 becuase my looks completly wierd23:24
ubuntu_ 23:24
ubuntu_test23:24
JuNiOx?hello guys, I tried installing php 5.3.6 from .tar.gz file on ubuntu 10, but there was a bug message when executing "make test", does anyone knows where I can find a .deb package? or maybe an apt-get repository23:24
edbianPolah: Perhaps it can grab certain parts the same way files are grabbed?  I simply don't know.23:25
Dr_Williscordell:  i dont see much reason to not go 64bit. if your hardware supports it.23:25
cordellwell i have 8 gb of ram, but i dont do any math intensive tasks, or video encoding23:25
gnomehow can I setup apache document root corectly to have right permision to write files in document root23:25
edbianPolah: It is a database rather than a file, maybe that has something to do with it.23:25
giffkriume, OK good luck :)23:25
Polahumbunt: XP is far superior to Vista. Hence why it's been in usage with companies for a decade and they don't want to switch up to Vista or 723:25
edbiancordell: If you want to use all 8Gb you need to use 64 bit Ubuntu (or the pae 32 bit kernel)23:25
Polahedbian: But then it'd be just the same as having separate configuration files but with standardisation23:25
umbuntwell you also have to think about the cost.23:25
kriumegiff: what was the command to open my file in gedit again?? and thanks23:25
edbianPolah: Again, I don't know.23:26
Dr_Williscordell:  a PAE kernel will be slower then an actual 64bit kernel also. From the benchamrks ive read.23:26
umbuntmoney money money23:26
giffkriume, gedit /path/to/file ?23:26
Polahumbunt: Cost is a factor; it would cost millions for a lot of large companies to switch, but it's also the fact that XP is pretty stable23:26
edbianumbunt: The cost of what?23:26
edbianumbunt: The registry?23:26
lefty_allyedbian what is the command23:26
kriumegiff: yes23:26
Polahedbian: Changing infrastructures from XP to later versions of Windows23:26
edbianlefty_ally: sudo apt-get update   (updates your view of the repos)23:26
umbuntvist or windows 7 whatever you want to call it its just a bunch of service packs23:26
giffkriume, gedit /home/kristoffer/.conkycolors/conkyrc23:26
kriumegiff: gedit conky -c /home/kristoffer/.conkycolors/conkyrc ?+23:26
kriumeyeah ok23:27
edbianPolah: umbunt Yeah this isn't exactly 'on-topic23:27
gnomehow can I setup apache document root correctly to have right permission to write files in document root?23:27
giffkriume, without the conky -c23:27
cordellDr_Willis: yes, but not by much according to here http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=123:27
lefty_allyedbian : okay23:27
edbianlefty_ally: :)23:27
kriumegiff: ok trying now23:27
Dr_Williscordell:  do what you want. I dont see much reason to not use 64bit these days23:27
umbuntthe big dif is windows 7 likes the 64 bit systems23:27
PolahHow can I set locale from command line? dpkg-reconfigure locale and localeconf don't work23:27
edbiancordell: So you're arguing that using the 32-bit pae kernel is a better bet because there is only a small reduction in performance?  Why not use 64 bit and have no drawbacks at all?23:28
apocalyptiqhi all! o/23:28
rewatihi what is the current version of ubuntu23:28
edbianrewati: 10.1023:28
edbianrewati: 10 <- year   . 10 <- month23:28
apocalyptiqi have unix hosting, and i've installed there locally ruby 1.9.2 (becouse by default there on system is 1.8.7)23:28
cordellwell edbian, there are some applications that are 32 bit only, any contribute to a multilib system, which makes 64 bit software on the system redundant23:29
giffrewati, LTS is "current" too ...23:29
umbuntway off topic im sorry what is that strike 223:29
apocalyptiqand i have $HOME/bin/ruby23:29
apocalyptiqhow can i make it default ruby on my account?23:29
Polahedbian, rewati: Only for another month or so now23:29
cordell*and contribute23:29
bukencan anyone help diagnose a poll_schedule_timeout issue?23:30
rewatimy system showes 11.0423:30
TheVenerableZDoes anyone know of a serial terminal program that will let me send raw bytes and not just ASCII chars?23:30
umbuntis ubuntu one ever going to get any better?23:30
giff!natty | rewati23:30
ubotturewati: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011. Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1. Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems.23:30
Darkenvyhey whats a program that will regulate my sound to one sound level?23:31
lefty_allyedbian can i connect to the phonewall instead?23:31
Polahrewati: Then you have the development release of the next version. Latest stable is 10.10, 11.04 is available unstably and will be released proper on April the 28th23:31
lefty_allyjk23:31
lefty_allyjk23:31
rewatii dont remm that i installed natty23:31
FloodBot3lefty_ally: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:31
old_keyboardI am running ntpd how do I know if ntpdate is running at boot?23:31
KenBW2I just accidentally unplugged my graphics card. I've plugged it back in but everything seems unresponsive. Is there a way to revive the machine without restarting?23:31
old_keyboardthey are diff things i know23:31
giffrewati, you may "accidentally" have upgraded to it23:32
Dr_WillisKenBW2:  on a desktop machine? Huh?23:32
KenBW2Dr_Willis: yea23:32
Dr_WillisKenBW2:  you had the case open and unplugged it while the system was running?23:32
old_keyboardI just want ntpd running not ntpdate23:32
Polahgiff: How would he have done that? Update manager only recommends stable version I thought?23:32
old_keyboardmay I remove ntpdate?23:32
KenBW2Dr_Willis: no, i was plugging the monitor in but the card isnt screwed in23:32
edbiancordell: Anything open source (the vast majority of Ubuntu) can be compiled for 64 bit with the switch of a flag (and has been for the repos) problem free.  The few remaining things like flash have 64 bit versions.  Many people use the 64 bit version with 0 issues23:32
edbianlefty_ally: I have no idea what phonewall is.23:32
giffPolah, copy pasting strings into terminal23:33
old_keyboardcordell: and flash is gonna die with html523:33
* agliodbs uses the 64-bit version23:33
DarkenvyI want my sound level to be even all the way through. im tired of quiet movies making me blast my speakers next time I play an MP323:33
rewatiso i dont need to do dist upgrade when natty will be released right?23:33
edbianold_keyboard: we hope23:33
Dr_WillisKenBW2:  so  you unplugged the card from the mb. while the system was running?23:33
Polahoh23:33
KenBW2Dr_Willis: that would be correct, yes23:33
bukenI'm generating pdfs using wkhtmltopdf. For small pdfs the process works fine, but for larger ones, the wkhtmltopdf process goes to sleep while the waiting channel says 'poll_schedule_timeout' in system monitor23:33
kriumegiff: yess man i got it working and have a really nice look right now:))) thanks!23:33
edbianDarkenvy: Then you'll have to get every recording company in the world to record and burn things are the same volume23:33
Polahrewati: You'll need to update everything to the stable versions23:33
rewatiactually i am not using my laptop from longtime my all development is on my office laptop today i opened it and i saw natty and it is not even released23:33
rewatioh ok23:34
kriumegiff: its amazing :P23:34
Dr_WillisKenBW2:  power down.. make sure its inserted properly.. screw it down.. power back up.. hope you dident short anything out.23:34
rewatipolah: thanx23:34
Darkenvyedbian obviously you dont know such software DOES exist23:34
giffkriume, nice enjoy :D23:34
DarkenvyIm asking what this software is called/ option in my sound pref panel if built in23:34
lucaspas23:34
cordellbut edbian isnt 64 bit flash just wrapped up in a 64 bit wrapper, that uses the native 32 bit binary?23:34
Darkenvymy friend on windows 7 has it for his sound system. proprietory software though23:34
Dr_WillisKenBW2:  and its best to UNPLUG the pc from the wall befor inserting/removeing cards.23:34
Logan_!nl | lucas23:34
ubottulucas: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl23:34
PolahDarkEnvy: You want something for normalisation. I don't know what software there is for that but that's what you want it to do.23:34
edbianDarkenvy: Oh you mean that feature in itunes that automatically adjusts the volume?23:34
Tommy3My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades (ver 10.10)23:35
edbiancordell: I believe so23:35
giffrewati,  depends on your setup, have a look at sources.list and make sure everything points to natty23:35
Darkenvynormalization!23:35
Darkenvythats it23:35
KenBW2Dr_Willis: i inadvertantly unplugged the graphics card, i was aiming to plug the monitor in23:35
* old_keyboard kills adobe23:35
KenBW2Dr_Willis: it's not the hardware im worried about - im on 97 days uptime, aiming for 10023:35
lucasmy apache correctly deals with all .php files,   except for index.php, which it treats as a file that should be downloaded instead of executed on the server.   any ideas where to look for the fix?23:35
Darkenvydoes linux do normalization natively?23:35
edbianDarkenvy: It's in some audio players.  Amarok I believe has it.23:35
PolahKenBW2: Dr_Willis: Unplug it, give it a few seconds for capacitors to discharge and make sure to ground yourself to release any static charge on you23:35
Dr_WillisKenBW2: i would still say power down.. properly plug it in.23:35
Darkenvycant I have it for the whole system?23:35
PolahDarkEnvy: Not that I am aware of.23:35
edbianDarkenvy: I don't know.23:35
Dr_WillisPolah:  still i find its best to unplug the thing from the wall. 'good habbits'23:35
Darkenvybut a freakin external sound equipment would do it.... but ubuntu cant? :(23:36
ohsixDarkenvy: movies generally use all that dynamic range, classical music does too; once all your sources are normalized theres not much you can do about separate sources, by then you're using compression or a limiter to make them all sound the same23:36
Dr_Willisive seen high $$ video cards get fried befor.23:36
DarkenvyI dont want to spend $30023:36
umbuntis it a good idea when running a duell boot, win/bunt to format yer raid fat32. thats what i did and it sems to work great so far should i expect any problems in the future23:36
AtomhunterHey, I set up a server with a 320gb os hdd, and a 1.5 tb raid 1 and have it set up as a NAS with samba... but both ubu and my windows pc says the drive is only 32gb23:36
PolahDr_Willis: Yes, but do the other two things I said as well23:36
* KenBW2 cries while pressing the power switch23:36
suicidoltit's not booting on anything anymore, I restarted this rig and even it isn't able to boot from the usb stick/sd card23:36
cordelledbian: well as far as i can tell, for me 32 bit is ok to use cause you dont get a messed up multilib system, and html > flash, however, only use 64 bit if you really want true native > 4 gb ram performance23:36
ohsixDarkenvy: "ubuntu" wouldn't do it, and anything can be done with great effort; pulse can use ladspa plugins23:36
old_keyboardAtomhunter: are you sure it's 320gb? lol23:36
Darkenvywhats ladspa?23:37
iruleI installed ubuntu, used it with no compiz and ALT-TAB worked, then I used the ati propietary drivers and moved compiz settings arround but it sucked, so I disabled the ati driver and ALT-TAB does not work any more, so how may I fix it? thanks!23:37
iruleI installed ubuntu, used it with no compiz and ALT-TAB worked, then I used the ati propietary drivers and moved compiz settings arround but it sucked, so I disabled the ati driver and ALT-TAB does not work any more, so how may I fix it? thanks!23:37
ohsixmy personal mantra to use terms of art is if they're the first hit on google ;]23:37
Atomhunter@old_keyboard my OS hdd is that... my RAID setup is seen as the wrong size although23:37
old_keyboard!repeat | irule23:37
ubottuirule: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/23:37
edbiancordell: I have no experience accept that people on here all the time recommend 64 bit with 0 issues23:37
barfWhat is the smallest desktop I can install?23:37
umbunti can easily swap files betwen windows and bunt this way i think its good23:37
barfThe one on the live distro is like 650MB? Is it possible to debootstrap that one?23:38
iruleI understand guys Im sorry it was a mistake and I apologyze23:38
Tommy3My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot(ver 10.10)23:38
cordelledbian: the only system i can get a true native 64 bit system on, with no 32 bit binaries on is arch linux23:38
edbiancordell: Gotta love arch :)23:38
yeatscordell: there's no discernable difference between 32/64-bit for most users23:38
ohsixirule: all that stuff is in separate compiz plugins, you want to enable them if they somehow got disabled; simple-ccsm or ccsm will let you change the settings23:38
BentFranklindpkg --list says "rc  network-manage 0.8-0ubuntu3   network management framework daemon".  Does that mean network-manager is removed or I desire it to be removed?23:38
lefty_allyedbian i  almost got in!23:38
giffbarf, that's compressed, smallest is mini.iso and manually install xorg and wm23:39
edbianlefty_ally: Oh yeah?  I have no idea what you're talking about23:39
cordellalright im dont asking questions now, sudo go-help-someone-else23:39
cordell*done23:39
zvacetbarf: what do you really want to do?23:39
old_keyboardI tried to purge "ntp" and it says it will remove ubuntu-minimal . Is it just a meta-package like ubuntu-desktop?23:39
old_keyboardsafe?23:39
lefty_allyedbian to my my brothers room to get to the router23:39
barfinstall FF and GUI on 1GB23:39
yeatscordell: command not found ;-)23:39
ohsixyeats: one big difference is the package-managed version of flash uses nspluginwrapper and is vile :D23:39
ohsix(on 64bit)23:39
AtomhunterHey anyone up for helping me with some raid help?23:39
Tommy3My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot(ver 10.10)23:40
JasonnAnyone know how i can install PHProxy?23:40
edbianlefty_ally: Tell your brother this is Linux and he shouldn't impede progress23:40
bastidrazorold_keyboard: look at it and see: apt-cache show ubuntu-minimal23:40
yeatsohsix: good to know23:40
giffbarf, yes possible 800 something it is23:40
gnomecan I host multiple websites with ubuntu desktop version and apache or I need ubuntu server? what is the difference between desktop and server ubuntu?23:40
Dr_Willis!info phpproxy23:40
ubottuPackage phpproxy does not exist in maverick23:40
lefty_allyedbian lol23:40
Dr_Willisgnome:  desktop comes with the gui...23:40
cordellyeats: darn, try alias go-help-someone-else='man man'23:40
Dr_Willisgnome:  its easier to just install some sercvices on the desktop ed. if you want a desktop+server box.23:40
Jasonn!info phproxy23:40
yeatscordell: ha!23:40
ubottuPackage phproxy does not exist in maverick23:40
umbuntcould i format it ntfs and still be able to swap files betwen bunt and windows cuz i know windows will but will bunt23:40
barfgiff: apt-get install xorg firefox fluxbox ?23:40
gnomeDr_Willis: Can I host multiple websites with desktop?23:40
old_keyboardbastidrazor: I saw that with synatpic23:41
edbiangnome: The biggest difference is the packages that server comes with by default.  You can take Ubuntu and turn it into server rather easily.  (and vice versa)23:41
Dr_Willisgnome:  install the services.. it wont matter.23:41
giffbarf, yes that would do it23:41
barfgiff thanks23:41
Tommy3My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot(ver 10.10)23:41
umbuntand we all know windows wants nothing to do wit ext23:41
old_keyboardbastidrazor: "This package depends on all of the packages in the Ubuntu minimal system" which means if has to be removed if one of those apps is removed, right?23:41
zvacetbarf: follow giif advice and install with minimal iso see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems23:41
JasonnDr_Willis: I want to run a webserver, and i want to have a PHP file as the site, how do i do this?23:41
cordellyeats: as for getting rid of that alias, your on your own, its probably in you ~/.bashrc or something23:42
edbianumbunt: Do you have an Ubuntu related question?  Hating windows is not the point of linux or this channel.23:42
ohsixyeats: there are some other differences, like ia32-libs and its dev package; which can make doing some stuff ugly, but no normal user would notice, and that's fixed with the multiarch stuff coming down the pipe in new versions of debian/ubuntu (starting w/natty)23:42
bastidrazorold_keyboard: correct.23:42
Tommy3My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot(ver 10.10)23:42
gnomeum what services? I have apache I want to host multiple websites but I am absolute beginner in linux23:42
gnomeI have ubuntu desktop23:43
ohsixgnome: try https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html23:43
giffbarf, that is afair... if ubuntu is too bit debian would certainly fit23:43
giffbig*23:43
edbiangnome: Apache can host multiple sites.  It's ticky to set up though.23:43
old_keyboard!apache23:43
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)23:43
gnomeohsix, but that is for server?23:43
oasisTopherproblem, when I run a script that contains "VBoxManage controlvm Watermains savestate && sudo halt"  it fails to boot back up completely (stuck at flashing _ symbol) but when I run that command manually on command line, it boots back up fine23:43
old_keyboardstart reading gnome23:43
Dr_WillisJasonn:  install the server you want. and configure it as needed.23:43
Tommy3My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot(ver 10.10)23:43
barfgiff: I am trying to install ubuntu with firefox on a Samsung SyncMaster 400 PXn23:43
lefty_allyedbian i am in!23:43
oasisTopherhelp, anyone?23:43
JasonnDr_Willis: Ok, do you know how i can make the server ask for a username/password on connect?23:43
Dr_Willis!lamp | gnome23:44
ubottugnome: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)23:44
Dr_WillisJasonn:  depends on the service... and the specifics of what you mean.23:44
ohsixgnome: the server/desktop difference is really only in the install media, both are virtual packages that install different things, ubuntu-desktop for desktop-y things, and ubuntu-server for servery things, you can do the same things on either23:44
lefty_allyedbian done loading now what?23:44
gnomethat guide is for ubuntu server i have ubuntu desktop..23:44
PolahHow can I set locale from command line? dpkg-reconfigure locale and localeconf don't work23:44
giffbarf, I think 800something MB is the minimal installation, I'm not longer sure if xorg will fit on it23:44
edbianlefty_ally: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter23:44
Dr_Willisgnome:  it dosent matter... the desktop edi. is basically a server + the X gui stuiff.23:44
gnomeahm23:44
JasonnDr_Willis: I just want a username and password (Just one combination) to be able to join my site23:44
gnomei see23:44
Dr_Willisgnome:  and a few other differances.23:44
umbuntnow that i think about it NTFS might be better because you can alwase mount a windows FS from bunt so duh what as I thinking but fat 32 is so safe you know everything works with it not so much wit ntfs23:44
Tommy3My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot(ver 10.10)23:45
Dr_WillisJasonn:   you can password protect your 'web server' to require login to access.. no idea how. bu tiseen it done.23:45
gnomeshould  I install some essential package to be able to host multiple websites with apache?23:45
gnomesome additional essential package?23:45
Dr_Willisgnome:  you may want to read some apache docs.23:45
gnomeservice23:45
Dr_Willis!info apache223:45
ubottuapache2 (source: apache2): Apache HTTP Server metapackage. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.16-1ubuntu3.1 (maverick), package size 1 kB, installed size 36 kB23:45
ohsixread that link i posted brah23:45
gnomeI mean on ubuntu ide23:45
gnomeside*23:45
gnomenot on apache side23:45
lefty_allyedbian "firware missing"23:45
gnomesome service that ubuntu will need to host few websites23:46
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lefty_allyayeece what else could be missing?23:46
umbuntthanks for your tim folks i will quit bothering you now23:46
Dr_Willisgnome:  err.. apache handles that.. not sure its really ubuntu specific at all.23:46
edbianlefty_ally: firmware missing?23:46
Tommy3My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot. how to recover???(ver 10.10)23:46
lefty_allyedbian yes23:46
edbianlefty_ally: pastebin (www.pastebin.com) the output of this: sudo lspci -k23:46
lefty_allyedbian im on my phone23:47
gnomeok23:47
PolahHow can I stop and restart vsftpd on 10.04?23:47
zarbulaHELP ubuntu, Kernel newbie trying to compile Xen for maverick and getting confused on a step on the community guide asking -- "To enable Xen (and its options in Kernel config, you should dis-/enable the configuration options in the right dependency order." what do I need to do exactly?23:47
edbianlefty_ally: The Ubuntu machine is online right?  Go to pastebin on there.  put the output of that command in the box, hit submit, and give me the link.23:47
conicalIs anyone in here familiar with the AirPlay plugin for Totem?23:48
kriumegiff: u there?23:48
ohsixPolah: "start" and "restart" if it has upstart files, /etc/init.d/vsftpd if it doesn't, though the second should act as a wrapper and work in either case23:48
lefty_allyedbian let me get on firefox23:48
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agliodbsdoes 10.10 use MBR or GPT for the partition table by default?23:48
chomporouterlong live ubuntu23:49
kriumegiff: i tried this ""To run Conky when your computer starts, go to System > Preferences > Startup Applications, add a new startup application and under "Name" enter "conky" and under command, enter "~/.conkycolors/bin/conkyStart"      but it doesent work23:49
kriumegiff: is that command wrong?23:49
edbianagliodbs: MBR is the master boot record.  GPT is the partition table.  They are different things.  Ubuntu uses both of them.23:49
lefty__edbian ok23:49
edbianlefty__: Your nick changed?23:50
lefty__edbian lefty_23:50
lefty__is domain name23:50
edbianlefty__: www.pastebin.com23:50
lefty__ally is my phone23:50
edbianlefty__: See my previous post for what to do.23:50
ohsixedbian: theres also an "mbr" partition scheme23:51
giffkriume, put this in a file, make it executeable and use instead: http://pastebin.com/Xnk95Wxn23:51
danie395is there a way to swicth work spaces kinda like the alt tab to swicth windows?23:51
edbianohsix: oh really?  IDK then23:51
lefty__edbian how do i copy?23:51
ohsixif you want to separate them like that, theres also a fake mbr for gpt, so theres mbr & gpt :D23:51
edbianlefty__: highlight and right click the text in the terminal23:51
kriumegiff: what do u mean? should i do these command in terminal , and will it work then?23:52
ohsixAND theres an mbr (the partition table format) overlay for gpt, so you can have both23:52
danie395is there a way to swicth work spaces kinda like the alt tab to swicth windows?23:52
Atomhunteranyone with experience with RAID 1 setups?23:52
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Polahdanie395: Ctrl Alt + Arrow key23:52
edbiandanie395: alt + ctrl + left  (or right)23:52
lefty__edbian keys23:53
Polahedbian: Can also use up or down23:53
edbianlefty__: keys?23:53
edbianPolah: True23:53
lefty__yea like ctrl + c23:53
danie395thanks both of u just makes things quicker and easier lol instead of pushing the button23:53
lefty__like in windows23:53
giffkriume, no copy and paste in a new document in gedit23:53
kriumegiff: will it work on startup now after i restart?23:53
edbianlefty__: ctrl + shift + c I believe.  Doesn't right click work?23:54
giffkriume, yes, save it somewhere, chmod +x the file and put it into startup23:54
kriumegiff: explain please, where should i put the file after saved it?23:54
lefty__edbian not working for some reasom23:54
agliodbsis it possible to boot from an external USB hard drive?  not a thumbdrive, but an enternal spinny drive?23:54
edbianlefty__: Does ctrl + shift + c work?23:54
ohsixagliodbs: if your bios can do it, you can boot from any type of storage, and install it there too23:55
lefty__edbian let me see23:55
edbianagliodbs: Yes if your motherboard supports it23:55
agliodbsok, that seems like a good test before I install this SSD23:56
giffkriume, anywhere you want eg /home/kristoffer/conkyautostart.sh23:56
lefty__edbian to paste?23:56
edbianlefty__: ctrl + shift + c copies in gnome-terminal23:56
kriumegiff: ok done, what now?23:57
Goliathhey do i run winetricks as sudo?23:57
lefty__edbian to paste the copied text23:57
edbianlefty__: in firefox.  ctrl + v23:57
edbianlefty__: Do I really need to walk you through copy and paste?23:57
danie395how do i install frostwire with the sudo apt-get install frostwire ? what sources do i need23:57
extra11frostwire uses limewires network which is shutdown no?23:58
kriumeshould i select and add that file as the "command" for conky for startup programs?23:58
kriumegiff ^23:58
danie395extrall, is it and were did u here that from ?23:58
giffkriume, chmod +x /home/kristoffer/conkyautostart.sh23:58
shcherbakam I wrong or there is not working cli-based twitter client in ubuntu repos?23:58
lefty__edbian http://pastebin.com/e2pxAkjn23:58
Tommy3My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot. how to recover???(ver 10.10)23:59
kriumegiff: ok, is it working if i restart now?23:59
kriumegiff: can i delete this file after or it has to stay?23:59
Dr_Willisextra11:  the network is not shutdown as far as i know.23:59
giffkriume, have you added it to startup items?23:59
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giffkriume, it has to stay23:59

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