[00:00] <arbir> bazhang: yes ppc
[00:00] <Jordan_U> arbir: Debian is not ubuntu. Try #debian here or on OFTC (there may also be a PPC specficic Debian channel).
[00:00] <bazhang> arbir, debian ppc?
[00:00] <arand> arbir: #debian, here or on irc.oftc.net might be more appropriate.
[00:00] <bazhang> terry, he's apparently using debian
[00:01] <terry> arbir: Then just download the gz file and uncompress it and place it in .mozilla/firefox/plugins/
[00:01] <_antant> terry: sudo apt-get install makeinfo build-essentials msgfmt   just gets me package not found for all three
[00:01] <arbir> terry: alright….. let me try.. just that those binaries might be compiled for intel arch.
[00:01] <bazhang> _antant, its build-essential no S
[00:02] <arbir> i am asking here, cause, not much response in #debian. sorry if i broke any rules..
[00:02] <bazhang> arbir, just be patient in #debian , thanks
[00:02] <terry> arbir: ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[00:02] <_antant> cheers bazhang
[00:02] <dtcrshr> very annoying... connection keeps up for 1, 2 minutes
[00:03] <billy_> terry: with wubi, there is a folder in the very top of the file browser (would be c:/ in windows, just / in linux) is a folder called "root" which is the c drive in windows. my sister is a artist so i am trying to put a link onto the desktop that takes her to her documents folder in windows.
[00:03] <dtcrshr> cant update at all
[00:03] <arbir> terry: ok i am trying
[00:03] <dtcrshr> is there something about wpa_supplicant in 10.10?
[00:04] <terry> arbir: Well, I don't  know wheather it will work or not but can't hurt to try.  I suppose it will.
[00:04] <Polah> What are the advantages/disadvantages over Debian 6 and Ubuntu 11.04 for server purposes?
[00:05] <terry> *whether
[00:06] <dtcrshr> Polah, if you get debian stable, the differences are quite interesting
[00:06] <dtcrshr> take a look at the debian projet documentation
[00:06] <snake_> is there a channel specifically for video editing and compositing.
[00:07] <Polah> dtcrshr, could you link me or point me in the right direction?
[00:07] <terry> snake_: What application are you using?
[00:07] <snake_> I'm trying to find an alternative to apple shake 4 :(
[00:07] <snake_> terry, a FREE alternative
[00:08] <dtcrshr> Polah, http://www.debian.org/doc/
[00:08] <Stereocaulon> snake_, try kdenlive
[00:08] <Polah> dtcrshr, thanks
[00:09] <terry> snake_: Cinelerra is probably what you want.  See:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/top5-linux-video-editing-system-software/
[00:09] <eder> somebody know the channel name of backtrav 4 ?
[00:09] <eder> somebody know the channel name of backtrack 4 ?
[00:09] <snake_> Stereocaulon, problem: it's just like sonyvegas, I HATE sony begas unfortunatly.
[00:09] <snake_> terry, thanks. I will try it.
[00:10] <Stereocaulon> snake_, in that case Cinelerra is probably what you want, but it's a b*tch to set up :-P
[00:10] <Stereocaulon> snake_, try ubuntu-studio
[00:11] <snake_> Stereocaulon, although I used mac for editing for a long time, I am REALLY good at using linux.
[00:11] <YankDownUnder> Openshot Video Editor....
[00:13] <Stereocaulon> snake_, https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa
[00:14] <snake_> Stereocaulon, dude, I just did all of that, from that exact page lol.
[00:14]  * dtcrshr found a bug - maybe ubuntu inheredited it - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=574714
[00:15] <snake_> Stereocaulon, thanks though!
[00:15] <Stereocaulon> snake_, np ;-)
[00:16] <trist4n> does anyone have any suggestions to making a thinkpad touchpad a little more workable in ubuntu?
[00:17] <trist4n> it uses a synaptics driver for multitouch on windows, but its pretty choppy and inprecise on linux
[00:17] <et-0nline> hey when i start my ubuntu i get error 15 press any key to continue then nothing happens now iam on another computer
[00:18] <iqpi> et-0nline: perhaps grub problem
[00:18] <soreau> Can someone on maverick please upload their /usr/sbin/update-info-dir file to speedyshare.com for me? I'm in a bit of a tight spot
[00:19] <et-0nline> yes what to do iqpi
[00:19] <terry> !grub2 | et-0nline
[00:19] <iqpi> et-0nline: try to reinstall the grub, enter with a livecd
[00:20] <iqpi> then mount the root partition
[00:20] <iqpi> then chroot the folder where you have mounted the filesystem
[00:20] <iqpi> and just type
[00:20] <iqpi> grub install
[00:21] <iqpi> then unmount the partiton
[00:21] <iqpi> and reboot
[00:21] <iqpi> well, better exit the chroot
[00:21] <iqpi> before, and then unmount. Finally reboot and you will have your system
[00:22] <dextro_> i installed "remote desktop" and went into the settings and it says its bound to localhost and wont let me change the address
[00:22] <dextro_> what the heck is the point of a remote desktop app that only listens on localhost?!
[00:22] <terry> iqpi: Ctrl-d will exit chroot
[00:22] <Gambi> hello
[00:23] <terry> et-0nline: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[00:23] <iqpi> thanks for the extra info terry, i missed to say it =)
[00:23] <Gambi> hello
[00:23] <Gambi> can someone read what I write?
[00:23] <Gambi> :@
[00:23] <terry> Gambi: Yes, we see youu
[00:23] <iqpi> Gambi: what have you written?
[00:23] <Gambi> `I have one question about Ubuntu
[00:23] <Gambi> I am new to it
[00:23] <Gambi> can I please ask it?
[00:23] <terry> Gambi: Yes
[00:24] <_antant> what package do I need to get for msgfmt?
[00:24] <iqpi> Gambi: this is irc just shoot your question
[00:24] <Gambi> I install nvidia drivers for ubuntu via sudo but still some small pictures seem sketchy
[00:24] <terry> _antant: To create filesystem?
[00:24] <_antant> yeah
[00:24] <terry> _antant: see man mkfs
[00:24] <iqpi> Gambi: how have you installed the driver?
[00:25] <Gambi> apt-cache search nvidia
[00:25] <Gambi> and then sudo apt-get install nvdiai*
[00:25] <iqpi> Gambi: try to install the driver without X.
[00:25] <terry> Gambi: Do you see the nvidia settings thing?
[00:26] <dtcrshr> can somebody help me with wpa_supplicant in ubuntu 10.10? i can connect to my wpa2-enterprise, but when i try to transfer data ig gets dropped
[00:26] <Gambi> yes I have it in System admin settings
[00:26] <soreau> Can someone help me fix my package manager? http://pastebin.com/iJVKAgTB I'm not sure why it can't find update-info-dir even though it exists
[00:26] <Gambi> nvidia x server settings
[00:26] <terry> Gambi: You can try and fiddle with settings
[00:27] <Gambi> it says to able to fiddle it I have to run it as root
[00:27] <Gambi> i tupe in sudo nvidia-xconfig
[00:27] <Gambi> and I still get the same thing
[00:27] <Mndrll> Hi!
[00:27] <Mndrll> hey i have a little question
[00:28] <Logan_> !ask | Mndrll
[00:28] <Rob235> this is a ridiculous question but i have a method that has an array parameter which is being passed successfully, how do i assign an object property to that array, its more than just self.array = passedArray; right?
[00:28] <_antant> terry: ok, looked at man mkfs. Didn't shed any light
[00:28] <Rob235> because that just crashes my app
[00:28] <javier> m
[00:28] <Logan_> Rob235: which programming language is that?
[00:28] <Rob235> array is a property
[00:29] <terry> _antant: What is it you are trying to do?
[00:29] <Polah> How much does the Ubuntu command line differ from Debian? Can I still use sudo and standard commands like ifconfig and APT and so on?
[00:29] <Gambi> damn
[00:29] <Viking667> just a quick question - I note that when I installed midnight commander, the view binary has been symlinked to the midnight Commander editor... what's the "official" way of running dpkg to re-set the editor to something more sane like vim?
[00:29] <Gambi> I feel like noob
[00:29] <Rob235> so dot notation is fine
[00:29] <Mndrll> im kinda new to ubuntu and just install ubuntu 64 on my desktop
[00:29] <_antant> terry; build the openelec source
[00:29] <Mndrll> now, i have 2 hard drives
[00:30] <Mndrll> one of 160gb, and t6he other of 500 gb i am about to format the 500gb one..
[00:30] <iqpi> Polah: yes, the commands are the same, but sudo will not enabled by default, so you will need two accounts, the root one, and you will need to create a new user account
[00:30] <Viking667> Polah: pretty much, though there are some niceties you have to keep an eye out for
[00:30] <Mndrll>  but i have different options
[00:30] <Rob235> im just confused as to when i have instance object variables do i need to allocate it somewhere or does it get allocated by being in the header
[00:30] <Mndrll> which is the difference between the CUID Partition Table and the Master Boot Record???
[00:30] <Rob235> actually i dont want to allocate it so nevermind
[00:31] <Rob235> im confusing myself
[00:31] <coz_>  hey all
[00:31] <Rob235> i just want it to point to the existing array
[00:31] <Rob235> but it crashes my app
[00:31] <Mndrll> *GUID
[00:31] <terry> _antant: Not familiar with openelec.  But I assume you have downloaded a tarball and are wanting to compile from source?
[00:32] <Mndrll> i mean it acctually says that both have some limitations
[00:32] <Mndrll> but which one is the best??
[00:32] <_antant> yeah, it's a custom kernel with xbmc as a front end
[00:32] <Mndrll> Linux and the Swap partitions are on the other HD
[00:33] <Gambi> are you peaople programmers?
[00:33] <terry> Gambi: We are all sorts of people, (some are and some are not).
[00:34] <Gambi> terry: so there is no one that can help me with my sketchy display?
[00:34] <iqpi> terry: i am not people i am terminal - ator
[00:34] <_antant> terry: I'm missing msgfmt and /usr/include/ncurses.h   (the latter I'm guessing I just download and put in there)
[00:34] <terry> :+|
[00:35] <_antant> you ok there, terry?
[00:35] <terry> Mndrll: Not sure what your question is.  What exactly are you trying to do?  What is your end goal.
[00:36] <iqpi> Gambi: try to reintall the driver without Xorg enabled.
[00:36] <rwe> anyone with sis hardware running ubuntu?
[00:36] <ibrahim> hi , every time i do update the sound vanish < i need help .........
[00:36] <root> hii .-
[00:36] <Mndrll> to format my second hard drive that has ntfs partitions
[00:37] <root> hiiiii ////////////
[00:37] <iqpi> Gambi: press ctrl + alt + F1 then you will be in a pure terminal enviroment
[00:37] <_antant> terry: ok, I've got ncurses. Just missing msgfmt now
[00:37] <iqpi> Gambi: then type killall gdm
[00:37] <Mndrll> terry, i want to format my second hard drive, it has multiple partitions but they are NTFS, EXT and one swap..
[00:37] <iqpi> Gambi: and then reinstall the driver via sudo apt-get install nvidia-bla-bla
[00:38] <Mndrll> terry, but just wnat to have 2 partitions ext4
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> iqpi:  i just got here..  but that will actually restart gdm.. if you want it to stop. usd 'sudo service gdm stop' (or restart) nicer then killing it.
[00:38] <Guest4119> how i can hack with back tack
[00:38] <terry> Mndrll: Well, if you are not using those other partitions, just blow them away and put what you want on it.
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> Guest4119:  'backtrack' has its own support channels and homepage.. start by readign them.
[00:38] <iqpi> Gambi: once you have installed it, then type sudo gdm
[00:39] <terry> Mndrll: Are you using gparted?
[00:39] <iqpi> Dr_Willis: yes, your way is more .... "diplomatic"
[00:39] <Mndrll> no im using the DISK UTILITY from Ubuntu 10.10
[00:39] <Mndrll> on Gnome
[00:40] <Mndrll> terry, no im using the DISK UTILITY tool of Gnome on ubuntu 10.10
[00:40] <Polah> Mndrll, get Gparted
[00:40] <terry> Mndrll: Ok, well as long as you are not using those partitions, go on with it.  If that swap partion is in use by your current system you might want to keep it on there some place... but you probably already have a swap partition on the other drive, right?
[00:40] <Gambi> hey terry
[00:41] <terry> Gambi: Yes..
[00:41] <Gambi> is it true that with Wireshark we can read other people's emails if they are unencrypted?
[00:41] <ibrahim> hi , every time i do update the sound vanish < i need help .........
[00:41] <Mndrll> terry, yes i already have another swap partition
[00:41] <Gambi> reply :
[00:41] <terry> Mndrll: You should be good to go then.
[00:41] <Gambi> :D
[00:42] <scott__> I was looking for a distro to install alongside ubuntu, just to try.  I'm kind of a n00b.  Does anybody have any suggestions?
[00:42] <Rob235> http://pastebin.com/xjdapH0s
[00:42] <Mndrll> terry, i just want to format the entire second hard drive
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> scott__:  use virtualbox.. and start trying them all.. in virtualbox...
[00:42] <iqpi> Gambi: to read a complete email you will need to catch many packages and then join them to have some readable information xDD, if you want to read others mails, steal their envelopes from their mail box xD
[00:42] <terry> Gambi: wireshark is a network traffic analyzer
[00:42] <Rob235> what is wrong with line 31
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> scott__:  but you may gain more benifit by just reading up on various linux fundamentals/commands/features.
[00:42] <Gambi> yeah
[00:42] <Gambi> I get that
[00:42] <Mndrll> terry,  yes but on the disk utility options, on the Formatting options there is the MASTER BOOT RECORDER, and the GUID prtition table
[00:43] <Gambi> but on a blog I read that you can read other's emails
[00:43] <Gambi> if they are unencrypted
[00:43] <Mndrll> terry, which one should i use...??
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> Gambi:   i doubt if its that simple.. what if in ssh'd to a remote box reading my emails....
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> Gambi:  with most wireless stuff these days theres almost always going to be some encryption also.
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> Gambi:  set up a home lan, and try it.
[00:44] <iqpi> Gambi: thats not legal. Anyway, wireshark is not an easy tool, and you will need to catch many data packages, and then merge the correct ones... it is possible but its not easy.
[00:44] <terry> Mndrll: GUID is just a standard for the layout of the partition table on a physical hard disk.
[00:44] <Rob235> http://pastebin.com/xjdapH0s what is wrong with line 31, the count works fine so i know the array is being passed correctly but the array assignment doesnt work
[00:44] <scott__> thanks Dr_Willis...I've been reading about several distros, and I've even tried openSuse.  Is Knoppix too advanced for a newcomer?  Or does it (and other distros) just require some tinkering to learn?
[00:44] <soreau> Guys, can someone please help me fix my package manager? I get the message '/var/lib/dpkg/info/install-info.postinst: 36: update-info-dir: not found' when trying to do anything with apt-get even though 1) /usr/sbin/update-info-dir exists 2) It's executable 3) echo "PATH=$PATH" in /var/lib/dpkg/info/install-info.postinst shows /usr/sbin in the list. So what else could possibly be going wrong?
[00:44] <Rob235> oh shit
[00:44] <Rob235> sorry wrong room
[00:44] <Rob235> my bad
[00:44] <Rob235> :P
[00:44] <FloodBot3> Rob235: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:44] <abstrakt> scott__, I would say Ubuntu is really the best distro for a newcomer
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> scott__:  i dont see much reason for 'beginners' to try other disrots.. stick with Ubuntu, and learn  the 'basics'   the fundamentals will apply to any disrto.ot j
[00:45] <Gambi> Willis I wish I had the skills to try it
[00:45] <scott__> agreed abstrakt, I figured I should try to stretch myself by trying harder distros.  I didn't know if there was an "intermediate" distro
[00:45] <Gambi> :D
[00:45] <Mndrll> terry,  so the Master boot recorder should be fine?
[00:45] <abstrakt> scott__, uhh, yeah I wouldn't bother, i would just use ubuntu
[00:45] <abstrakt> scott__, even thinking about the idea of a "harder distro" is really missing the point almost entirely
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> scott__:  'learning' requires effort. :)  pick somthin to learn about.. and  check out delicious.com links on the topic. for example 'sed one liners' :) an interesting little topic to spend an hr reading about.
[00:46] <critical_max> scott__, you have as much power as you want with ubuntu. it just has a low barrier to entry.
[00:46] <iqpi> scott__: try arch linux with the wiki for beginers .... you will learn a lot and you will have the best linux distro.
[00:46] <abstrakt> scott__, lots of newbies complain that FreeBSD is "hard" but then again most of them never take the time to read the amazingly well written and detailed FreeBSD handbook
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> I tried arch.. and dumped it.. dident benifit from its... 'design goals' :)
[00:46] <abstrakt> scott__, ignore iqpi
[00:47] <iqpi> abstrakt: lol
[00:47] <abstrakt> the idea that LFS will make you "leet" is rediculous
[00:47] <ibrahim> hi , every time i do update the sound vanish < i need help .........
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> scott__:  learning the 'gui' and where the menus and stuff are at. is not really learning 'linux' its learning the specific desktop.
[00:47] <abstrakt> just because you can follow step by step instructions doesn't mean anything
[00:47] <terry> Mndrll: I just use fdisk for what you are doing.  Since this drive is not in use by your current system, (or any other for that matter, you can do what you like with it).  I don't know much about the options you are seeing in the particular partitioning utility you are using, but yes MBR is find.  (Not sure what options it is giving you, or why there are options in the first place, because you have to write the new partition table to the MBR of the drive for the
[00:47] <abstrakt> it tells you absolutely nothing about what those tools are and why they are put together they way they are put together, you're just blindly following instructions
[00:47] <scott__> even the commands vary between distros, right?
[00:47] <abstrakt> scott__, actually no, not really
[00:47] <scott__> oh ok
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> scott__:   totally untrue.
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> scott__:  i would say 99% of them are identical.
[00:48] <abstrakt> scott__, you're wasting your time, honestly, trust me... do something more productive like learn to program
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> scott__:  spend time learning bash... thats always woth it..
[00:48] <abstrakt> scott__, there are indeed minor variations in how different distros organize things but overall linux is linux
[00:48] <scott__> how am I wasting my time? I haven't even done anything yet
[00:48] <abstrakt> scott__, you're wasting your time even thinking about this stuff :)
[00:48] <JTallis> Sweet a large channel.
[00:48] <abstrakt> scott__, I second Dr_Willis' suggestion to learn bash, go /join #bash ... it will do you a world of good
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> scott__:  You need to dive into some topic and start learning.. you dont know enough to even 'base' what else you should be learning on.
[00:49] <abstrakt> scott__, because at the end of the day, really, being an awesome sysadmin mainly comes down to automation, and on linux that mainly comes down to knowing how to write bash scripts
[00:49] <JTallis> I have a small problem installing Ubuntu 10.10 64bit, and even problems with the demo. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1714775 My post is here, I hope I've explained myself detailed enough.
[00:49] <abstrakt> scott__, everything else is software specific, not distro specific, learn about the specific software that you need, like apache or wahtever
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> scott__:  top 10 things to learn to up your Linux-fu,. Bash, ssh, regular expressions, vi,   and.. Hmm...
[00:49] <JTallis> I ran the chkdsk /r though, it goes through C... which is like.. a 900GB Drive, it's taking forever on stage 5.
[00:50] <Mndrll> terry, awesome thanks a lot!
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> JTallis: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded
[00:50] <Mndrll> terry, it seems to work fine! ;)
[00:50] <terry> Mndrll: NP
[00:50] <terry> Mndrll: Very well.
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> JTallis:  you are doing an install inside windows? or a normal booted-the-cd- and installed type install?
[00:50] <abstrakt> scott__, if you *really* wanna be masochistic, then it might not be a bad idea to learn the primary differences between debian and red hat
[00:50] <critical_max> JTallis, it almost looks like you burned the ISO to your partition. You need to burn it to a CD then boot from it to install to the partition.
[00:51] <abstrakt> scott__, but there's no real such thing as a "harder distro"
[00:51] <padeekins> scott http://bash-fu.com/ http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/browse GET YOUR FU ON HOMMIE!!
[00:51] <ibrahim> hi , every time i do update the sound vanish < i need help .........
[00:51] <joker_> Im having trouble getting my ait all in wonder card to work.
[00:51] <JTallis> No I didn't ActionParsnip, I know of MD5 hashing in PHP/SQL etc. Though I know nothin about MD5Sums.
[00:51] <joker_> I'm on ubuntu 10.10
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | JTallis
[00:51] <scott__> I have been reading about how to write c++
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> scott__:  a read of the 'linux from scratch' manual/guide can teach some things also.
[00:51] <abstrakt> scott__, most distros these days are based on either debian or red hat... Ubuntu being based on debian, Fedora and CentOS being based on red hat
[00:51] <abstrakt> scott__, good, keep reading :)
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> joker_: if you run: sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a    can you pastebin the output
[00:51] <abstrakt> Dr_Willis, I absolutely and fully disagree about LFS
[00:51] <abstrakt> as I already stated
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> scott__:  i dont even do C programming. :) been using linxu for years.
[00:52] <scott__> I would like to have more control over my box, so I will read over what you suggested.
[00:52] <scott__> so mainly bash scripting?
[00:52] <JTallis> Dr_Willis, I'm trying to go for a Dual OS. So I want to install it in L:\ whilst Windows is in C:\, so not INSIDE Windows.
[00:52] <nor15din> hii
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> You can learn some things from the LFS docs. :)  if nothing else. you may learn what some of these odly named services/programs actually do.
[00:52] <ibrahim> hi , every time i do update the sound vanish < i need help .........
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> JTallis:  then its not in L: since linux dosent use drive leetters that way.
[00:52] <JTallis> Critical_max, I burned it to a blank DVD disk, I can boot it off of that but just can't install or run the demo.
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> JTallis:  You take the iso, check its md5 to veryify it.. burn it to cd, or usbflash, and booted it?
[00:53] <terry> scott__: Before you start imagining what the differences are between the various distros, do some research to find out what they are specifically.
[00:53] <JTallis> I just burned it to a dvd disk, I'm goin to try the md5 now.
[00:53] <abstrakt> Dr_Willis, scott__, and you will have spent an inordinate and disproportionate (to your ROI) amount of time in doing so :)
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> JTallis:  You can resize your windows partuions from inside windows to leave part of the hard disk unallocated. and let linux install to that.
[00:53] <nor15din> how  i can hacke M
[00:53] <critical_max> JTallis, burn it to a CD if the md5 checks out. Sorry about the coaster.
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> JTallis:  you burnt a cd iso file to a dvd disk? sometimes that wont work.
[00:54] <joker_> ActionParsnip:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/585690/     Thanks for the help
[00:54] <critical_max> Dr_Willis, agreed.
[00:54] <abstrakt> scott__, stick with learning C++ and add bash to your list of things to learn, also learn the gnu build system like using Makefiles
[00:54] <padeekins> I switched from mac to Ubuntu  back when gutsy got released and never turned back... Is the RH/Fedora community similar to the Deb/Ubuntu?
[00:54] <nor15din> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[00:54] <scott__> ok I will
[00:54] <nor15din> hihihihihi
[00:54] <JTallis> I'm not sure if it's a cd iso, DVD's are all I have so I just used one of them.
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> padeekins:  redhat is a little weirder in ways last i checked/tried the RH/variants.. :)
[00:55] <nor15din> i am crazy /////////////////////////////////////
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> padeekins:  thats been 5+ yrs ago.
[00:55] <JTallis> Right, okay, yeah I was followin an tutorial, and it left it unallocated but I was not sure at all why.
[00:55] <ibrahim> hi , every time i do update the sound vanish < i need help .........
[00:55] <scott__> I have a GUI question about ubuntu, also: is ubuntu going to keep classic desktop  past 11.04? Or are we going to strictly Unity?
[00:55] <terry> padeekins: Similar?  In what way..?  If you are asking if you are in the right place?  The answer is Yes.  You will have an easier go of it here.
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> JTallis:  the installer will use that space and partion it as needed.
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> joker_: blacklist the agpgart-amd64 and it should be ok
[00:55] <nor15din> i am crazy /////////////////////////////////////
[00:55] <nor15din> i am crazy /////////////////////////////////////
[00:55] <nor15din> i am crazy /////////////////////////////////////
[00:55] <FloodBot3> nor15din: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:55] <critical_max> JTallis, definitely burn to a CD.
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> scott__:  you can always isntall differnt desktops
[00:56] <joker_> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure how to do that
[00:56] <mokotoo> is there some way to launch an application from command line so that I can discern it among similarly named processes in ps?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> scott__: both will be available in natty but unity will be default, natty is discussed and supported in #ubuntu+1
[00:56] <padeekins> Do they use the same kernel as Debian? maybe that's a newb question?
[00:56] <rwe> im in desperate need of help with sis drivers on ubunto
[00:56] <rwe> u
[00:56] <et-0nline> hey when i start my ubuntu i get error 15 press any key to continue then nothing happens now iam on another computer
[00:56] <abstrakt> scott__, yeah there's a crap load of different GUIs, GNOME and KDE to name but two amongst many others such as WindowMaker, XFCE, FVWM and fluxbox
[00:56] <rwe> anyone got experience
[00:56] <rwe> ?
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> rwe:  good luck with that. SIS really has poor linux support.
[00:57] <JTallis> right okay, when this chkdsk finishes, I'll remove the partition. I'll see if I have a blank CD around. I did have some I believe but this was a few years back. Thanks.
[00:57] <rwe> yeah ive noticed
[00:57] <coz_> rwe,  ooo sis drivers do not have 3d accelerated drivers I dont t hink
[00:57] <rwe> i dont need 3d
[00:57] <abstrakt> scott__, again, none of this changes on any of the other distros
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> rwe:  thats my 'experience' from hanging in this channel.. every time SIS is mentioned.. its rarely good.
[00:57] <rwe> i just want to be able to connect my tv
[00:57] <abstrakt> btw, wtf is Unity anyway? isn't it just GNOME?
[00:57] <abstrakt> did ubuntu like, fork GNOME or something?
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> rwe:  check the forums for your exact chipset. you m ay get lucky
[00:57] <critical_max> !unity
[00:57] <abstrakt> or did they add on top of GNOME? or what
[00:57] <coz_> rwe,  I had ,, a while back.. a deb package for sis cards,, I dont think I still have it.. have you googled for it?
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> joker_: echo "blacklist agpart-amd64" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist.conf
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> joker_: reboot to test
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> abstrakt:  its  the windowmanager basically/launcher.
[00:57] <rwe> i have googled for 2 days
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> abstrakt:  its not gnome..
[00:58] <rwe> coz_
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> abstrakt: it is based on GTK though ;)
[00:58] <abstrakt> but if it's a shell for gnome, then gnome is underneath, so in essence, unity is in fact gnome?
[00:58] <quant> abstrakt, actually it is Gnome
[00:58] <rwe> god damnit i really liked ubuntu, looks like i have to use that god damn w7 then
[00:58] <quant> abstrakt, correct
[00:58] <coz_> rwe,  ah let me try hold on
[00:58] <JTallis> Is there any safe way to cancel a chkdsk scan on Windows or do I have to wait for it to finish.
[00:58] <abstrakt> quant, ok that's what I thought
[00:58] <rwe> thanks alot
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> rwe:  ive learned to avoide sis. :)
[00:58] <coz_> rwe,   give me the readout  of   lspci | grep -i vga
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> JTallis:  ask in #windows
[00:59] <iqpi> unity is a sh**** that canonical have done to don't help with the gnome project
[00:59] <rwe> wait i have to run over to the laptop
[00:59] <et-0nline> hey when i start my ubuntu i get error 15 press any key to continue then nothing happens now iam on another computer
[00:59] <rwe> whats the command for pastebin
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> iqpi: then use traditional desktop
[00:59] <rwe>  | pastebinit or smth
[00:59] <swim> anybody know how to fix folder icons that won't change???
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> !pastebinit
[00:59] <rwe> brb then
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> swim:  hit f5 to refresh perhaps?
[00:59] <iqpi> ActionParsnip: i use wmfs don't like gnome neither kde
[00:59] <coz_> rwe,  there is a sis driver in .deb here   http://ncc-1701a.homelinux.net/~linux-sis/index.php?page=Downloads   I have no idea how good it may be  or even if it can be installed
[00:59] <scott__> IMHO, unity isn't very attractive, but I can see why Canonical's going in that direction (maximizing vertical space)
[00:59] <JTallis> Thank you Dr_Willis
[01:00] <swim> Dr_Willis thanks, but no luck..  I've tried all sort of things..
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> Im so used to my ANdroid Phone now. a 'vertical side panel' seems weird..
[01:00] <rwe> thanks coz_
[01:00] <rwe> i get this red nuance
[01:00] <rwe> on my tv
[01:00] <rwe> and the res is buggy
[01:00] <padeekins> I think Unity looks ultra usable... never played with it though
[01:00] <stbain> Switched from iPhone to Motorola Atrix (Android phone)... love it.
[01:01] <terry> Dr_Willis: Android phones are spoiling us!
[01:01] <rwe> is that what you used coz_
[01:01] <coz_> rwe,  let me know if that driver works,, as I recal you will have to set resolution once the driver is installed a nd you reboot under system/preferences/monitors
[01:01] <_antant> Anyone: trying to build a custom kernel and it can't download http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/linux-2.6.38-rc7.tar.bz2
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> iqpi: do you mean wbfs?
[01:02] <terry> stbain: Yea android is awesome.
[01:02] <rwe> which one is it coz_?
[01:02] <_antant> Anything I can do?
[01:02] <coz_> rwe,  I believe the one at the top page is the only .deb
[01:02] <coz_> rwe,  oh!
[01:03] <coz_> rwe,  wait
[01:03] <rwe> :>
[01:03] <_antant> getting a 404 error. Yeah, I know what that means. But why would it be trying to get it from the wrong place?
[01:03] <rwe> this is going to be my last try, it really hurts to install w7 though
[01:03] <nicolaus> hey guys
[01:03] <coz_> rwe,  what was the readout of   lspci | grep -i vga  again?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> rwe: use what you wish
[01:04] <steven_> hola
[01:04] <rwe> i didnt post it, i can go over there and run it if you think it would help
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> hi steven_
[01:04] <nicolaus> i want to find the right linux for me can u giive me a site that as all the linux base OP plz
[01:04] <coz_> rwe,  either way i think the first one is the most recent
[01:04] <mobius2> Greetings Ubuntu channel  ;]     I  have some questions dealing with the grub boot loader on my dual boot laptop.
[01:04] <_antant> ActionParsnip: Why would it try and download the linux kernel from the wrong place when trying to build?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> nicolaus: http://distrowatch.com/
[01:04] <quant> nicolaus, distrowatch.com
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> _antant: not sure
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> nicolaus: there are LOADS
[01:05] <nicolaus> thanks
[01:05] <_antant> ActionParsnip: would it be something in the make file?
[01:05] <mobius2> if anyone  knows about brub, or how to rewrite my linux instance  into the  boot sequence I would greatly appreciate it
[01:05] <terry> _antant: Try:  http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/v2.6.38/linux-2.6.38-rc7.tar.gz
[01:05] <mobius2> grub*   sorry
[01:05] <nicolaus> and how do i change the login screen on my linux
[01:05] <nicolaus> lioke kde and stuff
[01:05] <iqpi> ActionParsnip: no i mean wfms, its a tiling window manager
[01:05] <coz_> nicolaus,  well not like it used to be ,, hold on
[01:05] <quant> nicolaus, what do you mean exactly?
[01:06] <iqpi> ActionParsnip: it has the best of awesome and dwm
[01:06] <nicolaus> i mean like change the GUI
[01:06] <the_core_> hello
[01:06] <_antant> ActionParsnip: How do I tell it to look there instead?
[01:06] <coz_> nicolaus,   download this text file and try it out
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> iqpi: gotcha :). I use plate and lxde but have started using unity so I can help users
[01:06] <critical_max> For anyone interested: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/551013 is the ONLY bug I have encountered after an upgrade to 10.10. Not bad at all. :) There is a long, ugly, workaround if anyone is interested http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[01:07] <quant> nicolaus, you have to install the desired GUI's packages and while on the login screen choose the session that corresponds to the wanted GUI
[01:07] <ezrafree> hello
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> nicolaus: http://maketecheasier.com/change-login-and-boot-screen-in-ubuntu-lucid/2010/05/13
[01:07] <coz_> nicolaus,  now when you log off it will appear that you are going to change the system theme..however it will only effect the gdm theme,, and if you want to change the wallpaper behind it ,, make sure the image is under /usr/share/backgrounds
[01:07] <critical_max> 10.10 also made my microphone magically "just work". Woohoo.
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> critical_max: i've used that and advised it. I use it on every system I touch :)
[01:07] <ezrafree> i have firefox 4 installed and under Languages it says "English (en-us)" is incompatible... any ideas how to fix this?
[01:08] <Benkinooby> hi, i heard a story about a guy who's laptop got stolen and he was able to locate it, remote control it and indentify the thief. google.reseach only give me windows-related articles and infos. is there something like that for ubuntu, and if not, how could i relaize that? (maybe ping my home server and use ssh via port 80?)
[01:08] <critical_max> ActionParsnip: you can vouch for the softpedia howto? I might try it, since I've done the right thing already and verified the bug exists and added my "this affects me" vote.
[01:08] <the_core_> I am Linux Iliterate and need help sorting my wireless connection
[01:08] <joker__> ActionParsnip: I did that, I still cannot enable 3d graphics, any other suggestions (ati x800 video driver)
[01:08] <nicolaus> ok thanks coz_
[01:08] <nicolaus> quant can u give me a site that i can find all the GUIs i can use
[01:09] <coz_> Benkinooby,   check this out    http://www.arsgeek.com/2007/05/04/how-to-track-and-recover-your-linux-laptop-if-it-gets-stolen/
[01:09] <rwe> coz_
[01:09] <rwe> http://pastebin.com/xLi2pmin
[01:09] <critical_max> Benkinooby, "Prey" is an open source solution for that
[01:09] <the_core_> toshiba satelite laptop Ubuntu Netbook 10.10 installed
[01:09] <Noobash> bn
[01:09] <coz_> rwe,  yeah try that      first one on that link
[01:09] <Jordan_U> mobius2: What problem are you having exactly?
[01:09] <coz_> rwe,  please,, I cannot guarantee it wil work
[01:09] <Noobash> alguem pode me ajudar http://paste.ubuntu.com/585697/
[01:10] <tensorpudding> !br | Noobash
[01:10] <quant> nicolaus, not sure, but more or less this: gnome, kde, xfce, lxde
[01:10] <rwe> coz_ yeah i know
[01:10] <coz_> rwe,  dont forget to reboot the system and then check resolutons
[01:11] <rwe> im such a amateur on linux i never even tried to install a driver
[01:11] <rwe> so lets se how this turnes out
[01:11] <rwe> -e
[01:11] <coz_> rwe,  well that one is as simple as double clicking it
[01:11] <quant> nicolaus, I believe that in the repos you might also find e16 and other ones
[01:11] <rwe> ok sweet
[01:11] <critical_max> ActionParsnip, I'm seeing reports of the softpedia workaround affecting sleep/hibernation with nvidia drivers. I'm on ATI. Are you on ATI too?
[01:11] <ezrafree> in firefox 4 i have "incompatible langauge pack" can anyone help me?
[01:11] <coz_> rwe,  as long as you downloaded  the .deb package
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> critical_max: pure nvidia dude
[01:12] <joker__> ActionParsnip: I did that, I still cannot enable 3d graphics, any other suggestions (ati x800 video driver)
[01:12] <Guest55472> ActionParsnip:  WHich nvidia card are yhou running
[01:12] <joker__> blacklisted agpgart
[01:12] <critical_max> ActionParsnip, ok thanks. I also note that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/563878 appears to be the most current bug report for this problem.
[01:13] <critical_max> Wow, it has over a dozen dupes. What a pain point
[01:14] <prappl93> Some YouTube videos work on the page for them, as in not in the channel for the publisher, but others that require you to start them require me to go to the channel to view them. Is there a way to fix this or do I have to live with going to the channels?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> Guest57530: nvidia 6250 onboard
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> joker__: you may need an xorg.conf file to specify resolutions
[01:15] <Jake_> ActionParsnip:  Thanks  Just changed my name back to Jake
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> Guest57530: sorry 6150
[01:15] <Jake_> ActionParsnip:  Figures I wouldn't get lucky enough to have you running the same drivers as me.
[01:15] <Sw33NY> hey, i have an problem on my computer, when i boot my linux, error : BAR 6 : address space collision on of devices ... and that for my 2 pci cards
[01:16] <iqpi_> ::;___*
[01:16] <Benkinooby> critical_max, i didn't know prey is for linux too. tank you! coz_ tank you for the lin!
[01:16] <Benkinooby> link
[01:16] <Jake_> ActionParsnip: I am running the GT 330M with the dual output
[01:16] <soreau> Guys, I need someone on maverick to show the output of 'ls -l /usr/sbin/update-info-dir' please
[01:17] <nicolaus> quant what is repos?
[01:17] <quant> nicolaus, repositories
[01:17] <quant> !repository
[01:18] <extra11> hi
[01:19] <coz_> rwe,  just to mention.. I do have one system here with SIS video and that driver worked but it was lucid , I believe,
[01:20] <uofm49426> any small program i can test a mic
[01:20] <coz_> rwe,  and it might come in handy...especially if it works ,, if you decide to install 11.04  come end of April because you can log into the Unity 2d desktop with issues...hopefully
[01:21] <coz_> rwe,  rather without issues
[01:21] <uofm49426> like a record program
[01:21] <Logan_> !info moonlight-plugin-mozilla > Logan_
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> Jake_: nice, that probably has more ram and cpu power than all my systems combined :)
[01:21] <prappl93> uofm49426, Did you check under Applications > Sound & Video > Sound Recorder?
[01:21] <coz_> uofm49426,  is the mic recognized?
[01:22] <coz_> uofm49426,  did you open a terminal  type     alsamixer   and check if the mic 's volume slider is down or muted
[01:22] <uofm49426> running lubuntu not new to it
[01:22] <Jake_> ActionParsnip:  2GB Video 4 GB Ram Quad 2.67 But the video card drivers don't work right yet
[01:22] <venom> ola
[01:23] <venom> boa noite
[01:23] <Jake_> Suppose to have a fix in ubuntu 11.04
[01:23] <prappl93> uofm49426, you say you are running lubuntu right?
[01:23] <uofm49426> ok mic is alway to 100
[01:24] <coz_> Jake_,  one of the constant issues on development version is video can break before it is released  its already happend twice I believe so  if natty will solve the issue,, probably not unitl release
[01:25] <uofm49426> i just want a small program to go test on two test 1 2 the hear my self the uninstall it
[01:25] <coz_> uofm49426,  try camorama  or cheese  maybe
[01:25] <coz_> uofm49426,  I believe both of them have audio capabilities
[01:25] <Jake_> coz:  Yea for now I am counting down 34 days.  LOL
[01:25] <coz_> Jake_,  cool,,
[01:25] <uofm49426> cheese i have that
[01:25] <coz_> uofm49426,  hold on let me google this
[01:26] <the_core_> can someone please help me sort my wireless connection issue?
[01:26] <uofm49426> america or chedder lol sorry
[01:26] <terry> the_core_: Sure....
[01:26] <coz_> uofm49426,   look here maybe this will help   http://www.seoras.com/2008/05/26/how-to-record-streaming-audio-with-audacity-in-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron/
[01:26] <rwe> coz_ what would you have me do after the install?
[01:26] <KenBW2> Can anyone point me in the direction of a Subversion client that can run without installation?
[01:26] <rwe> just reboot?
[01:26] <coz_> rwe,  reboot the system ,,, then
[01:26] <terry> the_core_: What seems to be the problem?
[01:27] <prappl93> Does anyone know about a YouTube issue where some videos only work on the channel for the poster?
[01:27] <rwe> check res
[01:27] <rwe> right?
[01:27] <coz_> rwe,  open system/preferences/monitors if the reolution is too low
[01:27] <coz_> rwe,  this all I had to do on the one system i have with SIS
[01:27] <Jake_> Has anyone ever gotten a bio reader working in ubuntu?
[01:27] <the_core_> terry: thanks,I have a toshiba laptop with Ubuntu netbook 10.10 on it,and wont connect to my wireless I have ethernet hooked up now and it works fine
[01:27] <rwe> your one lucky guy man
[01:27] <uofm49426> cheese dont work unless i have cam tell me mo device found
[01:27] <coz_> Jake_,  like thumbprint reader?
[01:28] <prappl93> the_core_, do you have a netbook or just a laptop?
[01:28] <terry> the_core_: ifconfig | pastebinit
[01:28] <the_core_> terry: laptop
[01:28] <prappl93> the_core_, if it is just a laptop, you should use the Desktop edition, and not Netbook. You might have better results that way.
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> wireless drivers should be the same regardless of editions.
[01:29] <terry> the_core_: I agree with prappl93
[01:29] <sparky44> i need help with downloading firefox 4, it was working fine then i restarted my comp and it reverted
[01:29] <Jake_> coz: Correct
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> sparky44:  how did You install ff4?
[01:29] <terry> Dr_Willis: We do not know that he has a driver issue.
[01:29] <uofm49426> camorama require cam too
[01:30] <sparky44> dr-willis; honestly i dont know what i did to fet it to work the first time
[01:30] <terry> the_core_: Correction:  iwconfig | pastebinit
[01:30] <uofm49426> coz camorama require cam
[01:30] <rwe> coz_ im not able to boot ubuntu now ;p
[01:30] <sparky44> DR_willis; its in my downloaded file right now
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> sparky44:  clarify what you mean by 'reverted' also...  perhaps read at -> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/install-firefox-4-in-ubuntu-1004-1010.html
[01:30] <rwe> i just get to some dos like crap
[01:30] <the_core_> terry: ok will try
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> sparky44:  you dont want to just go download some firefox4.tar.gz and use that...   unless you know what you are doing. :)
[01:31] <sparky44> dr_willis; it went back to the last fire fox i was using
[01:31] <LunixMastar> rwe: login?
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> rwe:  if you get to the command line.. that tecniically is uybuntu.. :)
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> sparky44:  unless you can rember/give mopre details.. all i can suggest is check that URL and install it from the stable build PPAs
[01:31] <sparky44> dr_willis; yeea have no idea what im doing lol
[01:32] <LunixMastar> ewwbuntu
[01:32] <Jake_> coz:  It would be nice so I don't have to type while holding my laptop all the time.
[01:32] <uofm49426> i have a ebay laptop just testing stuff i may use the mic 10 in the computer life
[01:32] <uofm49426> i have a ebay laptop just testing stuff i may use the mic 10 times in the computer life
[01:32] <the_core_> terry: eth0      no wireless extensions.
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> sparky44:  pehaps its best to just use the older version then.
[01:33] <Logan_> !ff4 | sparky44
[01:33] <terry> the_core_: lspci |grep -i wireless
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> is the ppa that url i pasted.. suggests also...
[01:34] <uofm49426> does ubuntu have a program like the old record program with window 95 to xp
[01:34] <the_core_> terry: does nothing :(
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> sparky44:  sounds almost like you just dowmnloaded the .tar.gz binary archive.
[01:34] <LunixMastar> download firefox4, extract to a directory, set your path and run it
[01:34] <KenBW2> Can anyone point me in the direction of a Subversion client that can run without installation?
[01:34] <uofm49426> that took sound from mic
[01:34] <terry> the_core_: lspci
[01:34] <prappl93> uofm49426, Yes. It is located under Applications > Sound & Video > Sound Recorder
[01:35] <terry> the_core_: Is there anything more in the output of iwconfig? (Besides eth0  no wireless extensions.)
[01:36] <the_core_> terry: no
[01:36] <terry> the_core_: What does lspci say about the wireless nic?
[01:36] <uofm49426> is there a ubuntu chat thats just chat not support
[01:37] <terry> !ot | uofm49426
[01:37] <the_core_> terry: this it?  Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 8176 (rev 01)
[01:37] <tgm4883> Is there something that will graph my disk IO over time?
[01:37] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Virtualbox or Xen?
[01:37] <tgm4883> i've found iotop, but I don't think that will do what I want
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> dsnyders:  depends on your needs i imagine.
[01:38] <sparky44> dr_willis; actualy think i tried doing it frm the link you sent me im going to try do do it agian thanks for the help
[01:38] <dsnyders> Dr_Willis, I want to flip between linux, xp, and vista, and possibly one of the BSDs
[01:39] <terry> the_core_:  Not sure.  Do you see another network controller?
[01:39] <terry> the_core_: lspci | pastebinit
[01:41] <terry> the_core_: Can you do this?:  ifconfig > nic-info ; wiconfig >> nic-info ; lspci >> nic-info ; pastebinit nic-info
[01:41] <plut0> how can i prevent kernel updates from overwriting the mbr?
[01:42] <terry> plut0: It is not the kernel updates, it's grub.
[01:42] <the_core_> terry: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[01:42] <the_core_> terry: I am new to Linux sorry
[01:42] <terry> plut0: But grub must re-write MBR in order to make the new kernel available.
[01:43] <uofm49426> ok /dev/dsp not found
[01:43] <uofm49426> do i modprobe dsp
[01:43] <plut0> terry: not true, updating the grub config is sufficient
[01:44] <terry> the_core_:   ifconfig > nic-info ; iwconfig >> nic-info ; lspci >> nic-info ; pastebinit nic-info
[01:44] <zxy> Question: I screwed up on modifying a file in my system32 folder. If I use ubuntu through usb, will it grant sufficient access to rename the file? It would fix my windows partition.
[01:44] <terry> plut0: O
[01:44] <the_core_> terry: wiconfig: command not found
[01:44] <mobius2> Jordan_U,  I  recently installed a copy of windows to a computer,  now the new windows instance boots ,  grub boot loader does not appear at all. I do understand why, but I am a bit reluctant to make edits to the boot loader. Is there a way to convey to you the location of the p[artitions on my hard drive so that you might be able to help me make the edits to the grud config file?
[01:45] <terry> the_core_:   ifconfig > nic-info ; iwconfig >> nic-info ; lspci >> nic-info ; pastebinit nic-info
[01:45] <sico> my video card is an ati x1650 agp.  I'm thinking the newest ubuntu/ati drivers don't work anymore? or as good as they have in previous versions?  Can anyone recommend what I should use to maximize my ati x1650?
[01:45] <terry> the_core_: iwconfig  not  wiconfig
[01:45] <Jordan_> sico: the radeon drivers will be fine
[01:45] <Jake_> dsnyders: I am using virtualbox and not having ny issues.
[01:45] <terry> the_core_: Send us the resulting URL.
[01:45] <edbian> mobius2, You can show us all the partitions by putting the output of sudo fdisk -l  in a pastebin.
[01:45] <mobius2> edbian,  thanks ;]
[01:46] <terry> mobius2: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[01:46] <sico> Jordan_: and latest ubuntu? (10.10?)
[01:46] <edbian> mobius2, When you installed windows, windows wrote the windows boot loader into the MBR (it replaced grub).  There is no way to fix the problem without configuring the bootloader.
[01:46] <Jordan_> sico: the binary drivers won't work for your x1650, but the open source drivers work perfectly
[01:46] <the_core_> terry:  http://pastebin.com/rv8D03b9
[01:46] <Jake_> dsnyders: I am running ubuntu 64 and virtualizing windows server 2003 2008 xp vista 7 and two linux distros
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> sico: the ati site will tell you if it is supported
[01:47] <Jake_> dsnyders: All on virtualbox.
[01:47] <dsnyders> Jake_, I want to be able to flip between linux distros, XP and Vista, and possibly some others.  Can you do TCP/IP connectivity between them?
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> Jake_: sounds expensive
[01:47] <sico> ah, ok.  is there any way for me to use the binary drivers? use older kernel? older ubuntu? or is the opensource driver 3d enabled like the binary? sorry for dumb questions :(
[01:47] <Jordan_> sico: the open source can do 3d perfectly
[01:47] <terry> mobius2: http://pastebin.com/qEEk2dYJ
[01:48] <plut0> anyone know how to prevent kernel updates (grub) from overwriting the mbr?
[01:48] <sico> ActionParsnip: yeah, it's not anymore.
[01:48] <zxy> Anyone?
[01:48] <Jordan_> plut0: kernel updates don't affect the mbr
[01:48] <sico> ok, thanks guys.  10.10 amd64 it is
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> plut0:  how are you booting the system then?
[01:48] <edbian> plut0, They do not overwrite the MBR, the edit the config options for grub in files like /etc/grub.d/  What more specifically are you trying to avoid?
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> plut0: they don't anyway, the mbr stays the same but the config in grub is altered
[01:48] <plut0> Jordan_: kernel updates kick off grub which will reinstall the mbr
[01:49] <plut0> Dr_Willis: truecrypt is my boot loader
[01:49] <Jake_> ActionParsnip: Not really microsoft has a trial renewal so you can run an unactivated copy up to 120 days until you need to reinstall.  Besides I already had all these OS systems already.
[01:49] <terry> the_core_: Okay... now we are getting someplace.  Atheros Communications AR8152  is the wifi NIC.
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> Jake_: i see
[01:49] <plut0> edbian: kernel updates kick off grub and overwrites the mbr
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> never heard of truecrypt. if it can chainload a grub boot loader. then your grub configs should be set to change taht....
[01:49] <jrib> zxy: yes
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> !truecrypt
[01:50] <edbian> plut0, It reconfigures grub.  Grub is partially in the MBR and partially on your HDD.  It is to big to fit just in the MBR.  The bit in the MBR is rarely changed.
[01:50] <zxy> jrib: was that the answer to my question?
[01:50] <jrib> zxy: yes
[01:50] <zxy> jrib: thanls
[01:50] <kenzo> admin
[01:50] <plut0> Dr_Willis: it does actually, but a kernel update will overwrite truecrypt everytime
[01:50] <Jake_> dsnyder:  If are just wanting to run virutal machines for certain apps or like me to support different clients then just create several virtual machines like I did.
[01:50] <zxy> jrib: thanks
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> terry: AR8152 is an ethernet chip
[01:51] <plut0> edbian: say what you will but i keep losing truecrypt as my boot loader after a kernel update
[01:51] <edbian> plut0, I don't have any experience with truecrypt so I don't think I can be of any help to you. :(
[01:51] <Jake_> dsnyder: Using the 4 screens in ubuntu I can load windows fullscreen on one or more and still have the others working
[01:51] <plut0> edbian: i don't need help with truecrypt, i need grub to stop overwriting the mbr
[01:51] <terry> ActionParsnip: It is?
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> terry: "The AR8152 is an ultra low-power PCIe Fast Ethernet controller for PC applications" http://www.atheros.com/technology/technology.php?nav1=48&product=98
[01:52] <edbian> plut0, Alright plut0.  Lemme research a second.  Now I wanna see who's right once and for all.
[01:52] <Jake_> dsnyders: if you are looking to play games on the virtual windows machine it will not work well.   You need to config dual boot then.
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> plut0:  it may be mentioned in some faq for truecrypt. Ive never used it either.
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> Jake_: depends on the game
[01:52] <dsnyders> Jake_, So, I keep ubuntu as my OS, then run Virtualbox on top of that, and then run XP within virtualbox?
[01:53] <plut0> edbian: i can tell you from experience, its happened to me about 6 times so far, getting really sick of fixing it
[01:53] <mobius2> sorry about the delay  ,  I am working on a different machine than the one I am using in this irc chan
[01:53] <mobius2> http://pastebin.com/ZwzpwAqn
[01:53] <mobius2> edbian, thanks again for looking
[01:53] <mobius2> http://pastebin.com/ZwzpwAqn
[01:54] <dsnyders> Jake_, Or do I run virtualbox as my main OS and run linux within that?
[01:54] <Jake_> Yes but you will need to activate it agian using the cd key or perform the microsoft hack that allows you to continue the software trial.
[01:54] <Jasonn> How do i list all the processes being run by a user?
[01:54] <Jake_> dsnyders: virtualbox is not an os
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> Jasonn: ps -ef | grep username   should do it
[01:55] <Jake_> dsnyders: virtualbox is an app
[01:55] <the_core_> terry: what can I do now?
[01:55] <terry> So what driver is used for the  Realtek  8176 ?   ActionParsnip ....?
[01:55] <mobius2> edbian, terry  based on that output,  do you think you might be able to advise me on the required edits to the grub configuration file?
[01:55] <dsnyders> Jake_, Ah, Okay.
[01:55] <terry> the_core_: I don't know. That NIC should have worked I think.  Not finding any thing on it.
[01:56] <terry> Anyone using a  Realtek  8176 ?
[01:56] <terry>  the_core_ Is this system fully updated yet?
[01:56] <Jordan_> terry: I think my server does
[01:56] <edbian> plut0, Can I see /etc/fstab?  What is your encrypted volume?
[01:56] <the_core_> terry: ok thanks,on stand by to see if anyone can help
[01:56] <Jake_> dsnyders:  Just pick the os you want to run as main then virtualize the others.  Hint use the os with the smallest footprint as your main.
[01:56] <the_core_> terry: updated not long ago
[01:56] <terry> Jordan_: could you do lsmod | pastebinit  from it?
[01:57] <edbian> mobius2, This will probably be endlessly useful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[01:57]  * mobius2 uses the b43 driver with a BCM 4318 NIC,  I love that card
[01:57] <Jordan_> terry: my server's lan chip uses the r8169 driver
[01:57] <plut0> edbian: http://pastebin.com/hC3uPBNW
[01:57] <B9> I have two netbooks an old one which I use as a back up and a new one. Both netbooks are running Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat Netbook Remix 10.10 as an OS. I am chatting on the old one atm. The new one is not booting correctly. I log in and then it opens the orange luminescent Maverick Meerkat wallpaper but none of the graphical user interface of the OS fires up. I did a USB disk installation of 10.10 but this doesn't seem to work either. I would apprec
[01:57] <B9> iate some help.
[01:57] <mobius2> edbian,  I do appreciate you very much  :)
[01:57] <plut0> edbian: root and swap
[01:58] <plut0> edbian: i'm dual booting windows which is encrypted with truecrypt
[01:58] <terry> Jordan_: We're talking wifi here.
[01:58] <abahkaiyisah> goodmorning all
[01:58] <edbian> plut0, So what is encrypted?  windows or / or swap?  Or all 3?
[01:58] <Jordan_> terry: oh. nevermind
[01:58] <plut0> edbian: all 3
[01:58] <dtcrshr> managed to connect, but when starts to transfer data the connection gets dropped. too much googling and forum searching, can anyone tell me if ubuntu can connect, at all, to wpa2 enterprise connecitons?
[01:58] <Jake_> Mornign abahkaiyisah
[01:58] <dsnyders> Jake_, Smallest footprint, eh?  Virtualbox for DOS? :-)
[01:58] <edbian> plut0, Can I see your /etc/fstab?   (do you have any problems with windows after you get a kernel update? (and have grub reconfigured?)
[01:58] <plut0> edbian: truecrypt is the boot loader, it chain loads grub so i can boot both
[01:59] <abahkaiyisah> anyone ever clone partition via lan
[01:59] <plut0> edbian: http://pastebin.com/hC3uPBNW
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> abahkaiyisah:  thats doable. several differnt ways.. depening on your exact setup and needs.
[01:59] <Jake_> dsnyders:  I actually have 3 machines using vb server 03 fedora and ubuntu
[01:59] <plut0> edbian: after a kernel update, grub is reinstalled and truecrypt doesn't load anymore, it goes straight to grub
[01:59] <sgt_hagger> hey guys, how to i install a game from a .run?
[01:59] <terry> the_core_: What is the make and model of the notebook?
[01:59] <edbian> plut0, A-ha!  So we're both right (sort of).  The truecrypt boot-loader is getting over-written by grub in the MBR
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> dsnyders: Jake_ : xpud and puppy have tiny footprints
[01:59] <edbian> plut0, yeah.
[02:00] <plut0> edbian: exactly
[02:00] <abahkaiyisah> any tools?
[02:00] <the_core_> terry: Toshiba satelite L655
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> sgt_hagger:  you 'run' the  file by making it an executable...
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> !backup | abahkaiyisah
[02:00] <pstewart> plut0: you'd probably want to consider chainloading truecrypt from grub
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> sgt_hagger:  chmod +x foo.run, then ./foo.rin
[02:00] <plut0> pstewart: i tried that, could never get it to work
[02:01] <abahkaiyisah> thanks
[02:01] <plut0> pstewart: i would do it if i could though, believe me
[02:01] <Jake_> ActionParsnip: True but I figured I would load the main OS I was aiming for per machine instead of always running a virtual os
[02:01] <pstewart> plut0: the only other option i can think of then is to ignore kernel updates all together and manually install them when required
[02:02] <edbian> plut0, Perhaps you could figure out how to get grub to load truecrypt: http://grub.enbug.org/TrueCrypt
[02:02] <plut0> edbian: i'd love to but could never figure out how
[02:03] <terry> the_core_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1608908
[02:03] <sgt_hagger> Dr_Willis, i made it executable and clicked it and says veryfing integrity then uncompressing installer
[02:03] <sgt_hagger> then return to exit
[02:03] <edbian> plut0, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/713031
[02:03] <venom_> como encontro  salas em portugues
[02:03] <Jasonn> I am running inspircd, i ran it, it gave me an error, and now it sais its running, i tried to restart the server, but it still sais its running, i also tried ./inspircd stop - it sais that there is no such process, but still deosnt let me run i y
[02:04] <Jasonn> !pt | venom_
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> sgt_hagger:  use teh command line.. not double clicking.. look for error messages
[02:04] <terry> the_core_: Where it says: "The Wireless NIC in my model required the rtl 8192CE driver, available Here"  Here points to:  http://218.210.127.131/#2782
[02:04] <venom_> grato
[02:05] <plut0> this might be it, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10015847&postcount=23
[02:05] <Jasonn> I am running inspircd, i ran it, it gave me an error, and now it sais its running, i tried to restart the server, but it still sais its running, i also tried ./inspircd stop - it sais that there is no such process, but still deosnt let me run i y
[02:06] <sgt_hagger> Dr_Willis,  just says uncompressing then all good?
[02:06] <Jasonn> ActionParsnip: I am running inspircd, i ran it, it gave me an error, and now it sais its running, i tried to restart the server, but it still sais its running, i also tried ./inspircd stop - it sais that there is no such process, but still deosnt let me run i y
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> Jasonn: I don't know, that's why I didn't reply when you asked the first time.....
[02:08] <Jasonn> ActionParsnip: but what if this were to happen with any other program? What would i do, also the process doesnt show up when i do the command you gave me
[02:08] <leapy0yo> hi
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> Jasonn: not sure, try kiling the pid with -9
[02:08] <dsnyders> plut0, they may also be able to help over at #truecrypt.
[02:08] <leapy0yo> is there a way I can make my windows key to be a left mouse button k4ey?
[02:08] <plut0> dsnyders: thank you
[02:09] <Jasonn> ActionParsnip:  you mean: kill PROCESSNUMBER -9 ,--
[02:09] <Jasonn> ActionParsnip:  you mean: kill PROCESSNUMBER -9 **
[02:09] <Jake_> Anyone here ever work with a multitouch monitor and ubuntu?
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> Jake_: read: man kill
[02:09] <pstewart> plut0: i've never tried it, but i would think that taking a backup of your mbr with DD and then making a menu.lst entry with 'chainloader +1' calling the image you just made
[02:09] <sgt_hagger> ?
[02:09] <pstewart> but yeah, #truecrypt is probably a better place :)
[02:09] <Jasonn> ActionParsnip: I will, thanks :)
[02:10] <Jake_> ActionParsnip: ?
[02:11] <Jake_> ActionParsnip: Oh you meant to talk to Jasonn
[02:11] <Jasonn> ActionParsnip: no such process
[02:11] <leapy0yo> is there a way I can make my windows key to be a left mouse button k4ey?
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> Jasonn: try: ps -ef | grep irc
[02:13] <terry> the_core_: Did you find it?  http://218.210.127.131/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> sgt_hagger:  did it make somtning when it uncompressed?
[02:14] <Jasonn> ActionParsnip: there was one, i killed it, but the ircd still wont start
[02:14] <the_core_> terry: waiting for the page to load from that last link
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> sgt_hagger:  theres a reason you dont see .run or other 'self installing executables  for programs' :) theres just to many things to go wrong and they can get broken easially with new versions of linux..
[02:15] <sgt_hagger> whats the alternative with linux?
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> !apt
[02:15] <the_core_> terry: what do I do with the file? save?
[02:15] <sgt_hagger> ah right
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> sgt_hagger:  with UBUNTu - the apt package manager system is the way to 'do things'  related to installing/removeing software
[02:16] <spirals> sgt_hagger, Ubuntu Software Center (from your main menu, top left)
[02:16] <Jasonn> ActionParsnip: what is killall ??
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> sgt_hagger:  what game do you have that even came as a .run  file?
[02:16] <uofm49426> its a comman to kill a program
[02:16] <sgt_hagger> just a python game, i am learning python and wanted to see what it can make
[02:17] <leapy0yo> how can i map the left click bhutton to the windows key?
[02:17] <sgt_hagger> seems i cant though :)
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> sgt_hagger:  in that case check the .run file and see what its doing.. see if it extracted some files to some dir...
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> if its a python script.. it should be ascii text you can read.
[02:17] <spirals> sgt_hagger, #python for python support
[02:17] <sgt_hagger> just says uncompresing, then a load of '.........................'
[02:18] <uofm49426> mostly used to kill a stuck program
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> Jasonn: not sure, i use kill
[02:18] <Jasonn> ActionParsnip: thanks
[02:19] <Seven_Six_Two> Jasonn, it's to kill all processes of a specific name.
[02:19] <spirals> Jasonn, killall will try to match everything with the name (like the output of 'pgrep somename')
[02:19] <Jasonn> Seven_Six_Two: thanks
[02:19] <Jake_> Jasonn:  In the unix days killall would pretty much disable everything on the servers
[02:19] <Seven_Six_Two> Jasonn, it's nice, because if xine is acting up, you do   killall xine
[02:19] <terry> Seven_Six_Two: Jasonn pkill xine
[02:20] <the_core_> terry: what do I do with the rlt 8192ce_linux_2.6.0005.1116.2010.tar.gz
[02:20] <terry> the_core_: tar zxvf 8192ce_linux_2.6.0005.1116.2010.tar.gz
[02:20] <Jake_> Jasonn: Never tried it with linux
[02:20] <delinquentme> is there an easy way to setup a shortcut to a directory for the ubuntu console?
[02:21] <digiv> What file system would people recommend for file systems larger then 3TB?
[02:21] <spirals> delinquentme, "ln -s target link"
[02:21] <edbian> digiv, ext4
[02:21] <the_core_> terry: what is that?  tar zxvf 8192ce_linux_2.6.0005.1116.2010.tar.gz
[02:21] <terry> the_core_:  To tell the truth, I really don't know what is going on with remix, that driver should just be there.
[02:21] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION:can i run software like nokia pc suite or mobile partener through wine properly?
[02:21] <digiv> edbian: Thanks
[02:21] <intrader> Anyone, I am trying to revert to precious kernel image. Synaptic is applying update and never ending.
[02:21] <the_core_> terry: same as what I have here ready to d/l?
[02:22] <spirals> thauriswulfa, see appdb.winehq.org/ for complete details
[02:22] <terry> the_core_: Unpack the tarball with command tar zxvf 8192ce_linux_2.6.0005.1116.2010.tar.g
[02:22] <delinquentme> spirals, is that when im in the directory i want to make a shortcut to?
[02:22] <delinquentme> and how do i call it from ~/
[02:22] <thauriswulfa> spirals,not able to find out from there!
[02:22] <terry> the_core_: Open a GUI terminal. cd to where you downloaded it.  Issue command: zxvf 8192ce_linux_2.6.0005.1116.2010.tar.gz
[02:22] <spirals> thauriswulfa, if the info is not there you stand to lose little by trying yourself. it will either work or not. won't break your linux system to try.
[02:22] <terry> the_core_: Open a GUI terminal. cd to where you downloaded it.  Issue command: tar zxvf 8192ce_linux_2.6.0005.1116.2010.tar.gz
[02:23] <intrader> Anyone, how can I end Synaptic and recover from this?
[02:23] <terry> intrader: What is it doing?
[02:23] <spirals> delinquentme, example you are in your desktop:    doing   "ln -s /opt/some/random/dir ShortCutToDir" will make a shortcut called "ShortCutToDir" on your desktop that points to /opt/some/random/dir
[02:24] <terry> intrader: What command did you give it?
[02:24] <spirals> delinquentme, you can omit the link name or use "." for current directory, both methods will preserve the target name as the link name
[02:24] <terry> intrader: What command did you tell synaptic to do?
[02:24] <_antant> terry: how hard is it to patch a driver into a kernel?
[02:25] <intrader> terry, "Applying Changes" - Waiting for Synactic to exit
[02:25] <terry> _antant: Not hard at all if it's done via the package manager.
[02:25] <_antant> my TV card won't work with the stock ones in the kerndl
[02:25] <spirals> delinquentme, creating a link somewhere else to the current directory would look more like "ln -s . /some/distant/link/to/mycwd"
[02:26] <_antant> terry: well I'm trying to patch it into a self build
[02:26] <spirals> delinquentme, it's not as convenient because you don't get to preserve the link name that way. easier to make the link at the location you want it to be
[02:26] <intrader> terry, just to apply updates
[02:27] <delinquentme> spirals, i was looking for something like a sym link for the console .. not an icon .. its cool though i've got material for googleing now
[02:27] <spirals> delinquentme, that's exactly how you make a symlink for the console... try the commands with your paths
[02:27] <intrader> terry, sorry "Install Updates"
[02:27] <spirals> if you give me the paths you're working with i'll give you the literal command to run
[02:28] <spirals> delinquentme, not sure what you mean by icon but a symlink will show in Nautilus when you make it
[02:30] <terry> the_core_: Did you unpack it yet?
[02:30] <the_core_> terry: cant find it
[02:30] <terry> intrader: Well, it just takes a while to install updates.  Be patient.
[02:30] <terry> the_core_: Try Downloads/
[02:30] <intrader> 2hrs?
[02:30] <terry> the_core_: cd Downloads/
[02:30] <holmser> I can't seem to get my ubuntu partition to boot from grub2 after a botched set of windows installs
[02:31] <spirals> holmser, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:31] <spirals> you can use the live cd to repair, see above link
[02:31] <dsnyders> holmser, This is where it becomes handy to have a liveCD
[02:31] <holmser> it drops me into an interimfs shell and says it cant find /dev/disk/by-uid/blahblahblah
[02:31] <terry> the_core_: See my private message...
[02:32] <holmser> spirals, already followed that
[02:32] <spirals> holmser, what's your Ubuntu release?
[02:32] <holmser> 10.10
[02:33] <_antant> terry: Don't suppose you've got any hints for me or know where I can find a guide to do it do you? Or just how hard it is
[02:33] <spirals> holmser, did the additional troubleshooting referenced in http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-recover-grub2-after-windows.html help?
[02:33] <spirals> oops, that's a broken link :(
[02:33] <Jake_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:34] <spirals> holmser, I found an archive of that help page: try this http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20090627091409/http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-recover-grub2-after-windows.html
[02:34] <spirals> Jake_, he's been through that one.
[02:35] <_antant> holmster: what error does it give? How exactly does it go wrong?
[02:35] <spirals> _antant, <holmser> it drops me into an interimfs shell and says it cant find /dev/disk/by-uid/blahblahblah
[02:35] <Jake_> spirals: Sorry I just saw you say your link was dead and luckily had one handy
[02:35] <spirals> Jake_ :) yes the link out of the Ubuntu docs was dead, thank goodness for archive.org
[02:36] <Jake_> spirals:  Used it myself many a time.
[02:36] <holmser> hmm... /dev/sda doesn't show up in fdisk
[02:36] <holmser> but I am able to mount it
[02:36] <holmser> very strange
[02:37] <_antant> it doesn't show up in fdisk??
[02:37] <spirals> holmser, /dev/sda is the disk, anything you can mount would be a partition (like /dev/sda1)
[02:37] <holmser> nevermind... It shows in fdisk.  Wasn't scrolling.
[02:37] <holmser> whoops :)
[02:37] <_antant> lol
[02:38] <holmser> What exactly does chroot do?
[02:39] <spirals> holmser, it makes it as if you'd booted from the system you chroot to, in terms of the active terminal
[02:39] <holmser> gotcha.
[02:39] <spirals> holmser, very useful for recovery, or for creating minisystems for users who only need 1 app on a server, etc.
[02:40] <abstrakt> how do I view my screen's refresh rate? http://gog.is/ubuntu/refresh/rate only shows how to change it, not how to see it
[02:40] <Sw33NY_> hi all
[02:40] <spirals> abstrakt, System > Preferences > Monitors
[02:41] <Sw33NY_> whan i plug PCI Card i must install drivers or it's plug and play ?
[02:41] <Sw33NY_> when*
[02:41] <_antant> holmster: have you tried reinstalling grub?
[02:41] <spirals> Sw33NY_, it depends on the card. Can you tell us what brand and model of card?
[02:41] <spirals> _antant, he's doing that right now.
[02:41] <spirals> grub2 specifically, since it's 10.10
[02:42] <_antant> yeah
[02:42] <_antant> I'm still wondering how I go about patching a driver into the build I'm making
[02:43] <Sw33NY_> spirals: d-link DGE-528T (SATA Controller)
[02:43] <leapy0yo> are any of you able to use your super key or the windows key, the one on the left?
[02:43] <extra11> weird fedora won googles os award or whatever but ubuntu wasn't even in the runnin
[02:43] <sleep20> yes
[02:43] <extra11> ubuntu much more popular afaik
[02:43] <Logan_> !ot | extra11
[02:43] <abstrakt> spirals, nope, that just opens the nVidia control panel
[02:43] <spirals> Sw33NY_, that comes up as a Network controller not SATA
[02:44] <abstrakt> which doesn't tell me the refresh rate
[02:44] <Sw33NY_> spirals: when i start my computer i have errors : BAR 6 : Address space in collision on of device
[02:44] <Sw33NY_> spirals: yeah sorry
[02:44] <holmser> alright spirals, wish me luck.  followed the instructions and about to reboot
[02:44] <Sw33NY_> spirals: but my card works
[02:44] <abstrakt> extra11, well, debian bastardizes a lot of stuff from the "linux purist" point of view
[02:44] <holmser> thanks for the help
[02:44] <spirals> abstrakt, I see, maybe someone with NVidia can help. I am on ATI and there is no custom control panel. Sorry.
[02:44] <extra11> ahh abstrakt, ok, thanks
[02:45] <spirals> Sw33NY_, one minute
[02:45] <spirals> Sw33NY_, what is your release of Ubuntu?
[02:45] <abstrakt> extra11, Apache HTTPD to name but one common example
[02:46] <abstrakt> extra11, this makes a lot of people angry and or they don't take debian based distros seriously as servers
[02:46] <bob__> I have nvidea
[02:46] <abstrakt> extra11, for users though Ubuntu is pretty much tops
[02:46] <Jake_> Anyone here ever work with a multitouch monitor and ubuntu?
[02:46] <skullboy> how do i get the public ip without connecting to a server via bash
[02:46] <Sw33NY_> spirals: Debian Squeeze : /
[02:46] <on_elk> tam, potrzebuje wskazowek zeby sie polaczyc na czat.wp.pl
[02:46] <jhf> laptop mouse question -- second install of 10.10, it starts off ok but after a few weeks the touchpad left click stops clicking ( i have to hold it down ) or click several times ..... works in other distros
[02:46] <spirals> Sw33NY_, you need to get support from #debian then. It's going to be different from Ubuntu.
[02:47] <Sw33NY_> yeah but i have this error on Ubuntu 10.04 too
[02:47] <on_elk> tam, potrzebuje wskazowek zeby sie polaczyc na czat.wp.pl?
[02:47] <skullboy> how do i get the public ip without connecting to a server via bash
[02:47] <MacByte> guys im having an issue when i try to download updates, it says "fail to download packages, please check internet connection." but I notice that I am still connected to the internet (eg. google still loads) anyone wanna help me with this issue?
[02:47] <on_elk> i need to connect czat.wp.pl, any help?
[02:47] <spirals> Sw33NY_, ok I'll check for 10.04
[02:47] <quant> MacByte, could be your mirrors down, try in a little while
[02:47] <MacByte> mirrors?
[02:47] <MacByte> ok quant...
[02:48] <bob__> abstrakt: I have nvidea - let me check what you asked
[02:48] <quant> MacByte, servers used by your machine to fetch packages from
[02:48] <abstrakt> bob__, cool thanks
[02:48] <MacByte> oh kk thanks quant :)
[02:48] <quant> MacByte, sure
[02:48] <alex__> hi im a new xubntu user. many things dont work please help
[02:48] <abstrakt> actually I'm pretty sure it's 60hz, because that's the only option I have available when I choose a different rez
[02:49] <skullboy> how do i get the public ip without connecting to a server via bash
[02:49] <dsnyders> Since this seems to be boot night, has anyone set up  a dual boot machine using the BIOS system partition option to select the OS?
[02:49] <MacByte> another issue i am having sometimes when i try to change the settings in the power options for my display. it asks for authentication so I put in my password.. after that it just lags the authentication window
[02:50] <spirals> Sw33NY_, I couldn't find any reports in Google of problems with the RT 8169 driver and that card in Ubuntu. Only hardware problems solved those threads (like "bad card" or "bad patch cable")
[02:50] <spirals> Sw33NY_, can you pastebin that error again please
[02:50] <alex__> if someone can help me please let me know... i have a alienware m11x and many things dont work like the video card, wireless, the touch bad is crazy haywire
[02:51] <spirals> Sw33NY_, please also pastebin "dmesg | grep unknown"
[02:51] <spirals> i'll be right back.
[02:51] <bob__> abstrakt: use system/preferences/monitor and answer 'yes' to use nvideo setup
[02:51] <Sw33NY_> yeah yeah spirals, i have ... Heden CARPI3SATA like network cards > errors
[02:52] <Sw33NY_> spirals: i paste it
[02:52] <leapy0yo> is there a way to map my windows or SUper key? do any of you able to use this key?
[02:52] <abstrakt> bob__, already two steps ahead of you :)
[02:52] <abstrakt> bob__, but it doesn't show the refresh rate
[02:52] <Sw33NY_> no message spirals
[02:52] <sleep20> leapy0yo: Look into using xmodmap
[02:52] <abstrakt> bob__, though it does show a list of potential refresh rates when you select your resolution to be somethin gother than auto
[02:52] <skullboy> how do i get the public ip without connecting to a server via bash
[02:52] <MacByte> any ideas?
[02:53] <skullboy> how do i get the public ip without connecting to a server via bash
[02:53] <Sw33NY_> one minute spirals
[02:54] <bob__> abstrakt: I haven't fooled with it - if I had a choice I would use Radeon as it supports linux
[02:54] <zabomber> skullboy: that doesnt make sense?
[02:54] <xangua> !repeat | skullboy
[02:54] <Sw33NY_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/585724/
[02:54] <DoctorTruth> can anyone recommend a free DVD burning program that will author and create a standard DVD from any .avi file to play on a standard player that does not read the data style discs. Brasero does not seem to work and I have not been able to track down a free Nero for Ubuntu on line.
[02:54] <stillbourne> Ok, I'm trying to remaster a livecd with a kernel I compiled from vanilla sources from kernel.org ( version 2.6.38.1 ) I've done a update-initramfs to rebuild the initrd after I compiled the kernel and freinds and copied the vmlinuz to the appropriate location. However my boot drops me into initramfs and does not load the squashfs filessystem. Any Ideas?
[02:54] <sleep20> DoctorTruth: K3B
[02:54] <cl0se> Anyone know of software to monitor many ubuntu servers? maybe web based? showing uptime, disk usage, loads, etc... ?
[02:55] <spirals> skullboy, "traceroute google.com", or just log into your router and get its public IP there
[02:55] <DoctorTruth> sleep20 - built in authoring tool?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> cl0se:  perhaps ebox.
[02:55] <Sw33NY_> cl0se: munit ?
 i want to resolve my public ip address via bash but i dont want a server to resolve it for me
[02:56] <jhf> abstrakt: bob__ nvidia has beter support as all the cards have a propietary driver for linux
[02:56] <dsnyders> cl0se, You may want to take a gander at webmin.
[02:56] <nathan42100> hey all. Sorry if this is too long. For my job, we have a live CD to run a bash based backup script to backup data via rsync and nfs. Recently, we upgraded the firmware on our NAS which changed the share paths (we have no idea why the hell QNAP did that). We needed to update our live disk, and decided to move ahead to 10.04.2 from 9.10 since we didn't know how to make one *easily* (so make a new one with the newest version). I d
[02:56] <sysadm> hello, i need help reseting mysql root password
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> webmin is not well loved by the ubuntu/debian community. :) ebox is a similer tool
[02:56] <sysadm> hello, i need help reseting mysql root password
[02:56] <sysadm> hello, i need help reseting mysql root password
[02:56] <FloodBot3> sysadm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:56] <nathan42100> easier for me and future student sysadmins. I set up the user accounts and most of the packages, however i've run into a show-stopping snag. "nfs-common" will not install. It gives an error 1 at configuration, also saying that it has no idea what statd is (as a service). At one point I got it to at least recognize statd, but it was not able to start it. I've tried all the fixes I could find online, and one worked. HELP ME!
[02:57] <_antant> bob___: there's a massive fail with the nvidia drivers and grub2
[02:57] <spirals> Sw33NY_, is there an actual problem that you've noticed in usage (anything to solve immediately?) I found this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/424142
[02:57] <bob__> jhf: I was just going by the things I see on this channel - I am not an expert
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> _antant:  there is?
[02:57] <spirals> Sw33NY_, but I'm not getting any sense of how it affects the user
[02:57] <zabomber> skullboy: how are you connected to the internet. this question is answered depending on this fact.
 behind a router
[02:58] <alex__> many things dont work on my alienware m11x... like the touchpad is crazy, the video card is not work, the wireless do not work
[02:58] <spirals> sysadm: join #mysql for mysql support
[02:58] <alex__> please someone help
[02:58] <[deXter]> Hi all
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> skullboy:  so you want the routers external ip?
[02:58] <taran> is it possible to install OS on a slave disk while Im logged into the Master Disk of my ubuntu OS?
[02:59] <Sw33NY_> hmm ok spirals, thanks you, and do you know this error affects my perf of hdd ?
[02:59] <spirals> Sw33NY_, not from anything I've read
[02:59] <spirals> you're welcome
[02:59] <Jasonn> How do i allow inspircd to access a port?
[02:59] <skullboy> Dr_Willis: that is correct
[02:59] <zabomber> skullboy: http://www.simplehelp.net/2009/04/07/how-to-find-your-public-ip-address-with-the-linux-command-line/
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> alex__:  i would check the forums for that exact laptop. there may be a thread listing various fix's and tweaks for it.
[02:59] <jhf> bob__ http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[02:59] <Sw33NY_> ok spirals, good job !
[02:59] <Sw33NY_> spirals: thanks you
[02:59] <stillbourne> Ok, I'm trying to remaster a livecd with a kernel I compiled from vanilla sources from kernel.org ( version 2.6.38.1 ) I've done a update-initramfs to rebuild the initrd after I compiled the kernel and freinds and copied the vmlinuz to the appropriate location. However my boot drops me into initramfs and does not load the squashfs filessystem. Any Ideas?
[03:00] <cl0se> guess what I'm looking for is landscape-like thing that I can run just on my own network
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> skullboy:  ive seen dozens of variants on 'what is my ip' type commands when i googled for it a few months back, .. not sure what all your special needs are
[03:00] <nathan42100> stillbourne, also having issues with liveCD creation, mine won't install nfs-common
[03:00] <alex__> dr willis.. what is that
[03:00] <[deXter]> My maverick refuses to automount external hard drives (usb) anymore. I end up having to mount it manually and then set the right permissions so that I can access it without root. Any ideas how to fix it back to the default behaviour? Thanks.
[03:00] <nathan42100> stillbourne: I used uck to make mine (uck.sourceforge.net, also on apt-get) and it seemed to work fine. Made it REALLY easy
[03:00] <bob__> jhf: I just used search for drivers and selected the one it recommended
[03:00] <skullboy> Dr_Willis: it connects to a server i want to do it without connecting to a server
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> alex__:  what is what? the Ububntu Forums?
[03:01] <alex__> yea
[03:01] <spirals> skullboy, the ubuntu related solution is use "traceroute" on the terminal and look at the output. Otherwise just google your router model and find out how to log into it and get the info direct from the device that has the address assigned to it. It's pretty easy.
[03:01] <stillbourne> nathan42100, if that work I will love you forever
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> skullboy:  why does it matter?  you could grab the proper web page from your routers configs i imagine...
[03:01] <DrMorphias> ok i need help... when i install ubuntu on my desktop, it just automatically reboots over and over... i have to use the windows bootloader to access ubuntu.  i have a rocketraid card.
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> !forums | alex__
[03:02] <DrMorphias> how do i setup Grub2 for rocketraid?
[03:02] <nathan42100> stillbourne: I don't know how integrating a custom kernel works, but you basically have access to the root filesystem (at /home/<username>/tmp/), synaptic and a terminal which you can start anything from
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[03:02] <on_elk> connect czat.wp.pl
[03:02] <stillbourne> does it use casper?
[03:03] <Jasonn> ActionParsnip: Should a prog just be able to use any port it wants automatically?
[03:03] <on_elk> #czat.wp.pl
[03:03] <on_elk> #connect czat.wp.pl
[03:03] <skullboy> Dr_Willis: im writing a script part of that script grabs the public ip address but i if it is only local and someone executes the script it wont work
[03:03] <syrinx_> Jasonn: no
[03:03] <spirals> Jasonn: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers, especially "well known ports" etc
[03:04] <nathan42100> stillbourne: I'd recommend doing it in a VM of ubuntu and take a snapshot just before you finish the build, there is no way to go back, you'll have to restart it each time
[03:04] <spirals> Jasonn: basically well known ports require root privs to serve on
[03:04] <nmaxchat> hello. Cant get my Open Office spellcheck to work in Linux
[03:04] <nmaxchat> OO3.2
[03:04] <Jasonn> spirals: so how do i let a prog use the port?
[03:05] <DrMorphias> how do i setup rocketraid with grub2? it grub2 fails and reboots my computer.
[03:05] <spirals> Jasonn: depends on what program. be specific
[03:05] <Jasonn> spirals: irc server (inspircd)
[03:05] <[deXter]> nmaxchat: OO is dead. Long live LO.
[03:05] <Jasonn> spirals: port 6667 (am i supposed to specify this in the config file? Its part of an IRC network)
[03:05] <nmaxchat> DexTerDDIT, meaning?
[03:06] <[deXter]> nmaxchat: Meaning everyone is boycotting OpenOffice because of the whole Oracle thing, and so we've moved onto LibreOffice which is infinitely better.
[03:06] <nathan42100> stillbourne: as to your casper question, it can use whatever you want afaik. You just have to configure it right
[03:07] <spirals> Jasonn: I'm not familiar with configuring inspircd, you might find more help on #freenode which supports irc bots. http://wiki.inspircd.org/Configuration#.3Cbind.3E seems to have a great amount of detail on the topic too.
[03:07] <[deXter]> nmaxchat: You can read all about it over here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice
[03:07] <stillbourne> nathan42100, thanks I'm looking at it now
[03:07] <[deXter]> nmaxchat: and you can install it by these instructions: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/libreoffice-3-3-2-released-and-ppa-installation-instrauctions-included.html
[03:07] <nmaxchat> dexter lemme look
[03:07] <skullboy> how do i traceroute my self
[03:07] <sleep20> wat?
[03:08] <guampa> skullboy: traceroute localhost
[03:08] <jsoft> skullboy: kinda pointless..
[03:08] <spirals> Jasonn: in general you just need to do what the docs for the inspircd project say, and if the docs aren't clear, you will be in a world of hurt for the entire time, and should consider a better documented project
[03:08] <Jasonn> spirals: Yeah, thanks for the info mate, ill also talk to the network admin :)
[03:09] <spirals> Jasonn: That would be best. Sorry I couldn't help in more detail.
[03:09] <Jasonn> spirals: Nah, i understand :)
[03:09] <spirals> Jasonn: For what it's worth the docs do look good for inspircd. Not meaning to malign that project at all . :)
[03:09] <holmser> I'm back, with more info.  Seems as though my ext4 partition is corrupted somehow.  I checked what the partition uuid was and it came back as "ambivilant"
[03:09] <skullboy> how do i get my external ip via bash without a server resolving it for me
[03:10] <holmser> I have no idea what that would mean, other than I can't boot from it
[03:10] <zubin71> hello everyone, is there any kind of an apt-get hack which can get me a listing of deb packages(in the ubuntu repo, of course) written in C?
[03:10] <Jasonn> spirals: Its mostly made for people with a brain, and me not having one, may interefere with the install process.
[03:10] <spirals> zubin71, 'apt-cache rdepends libc6' for a start
[03:10] <DaPenguin> skullboy, try ifconfig
[03:11] <zubin71> spirals: nice, thank you.
 that gives me the local ip adress
[03:11] <guampa> skullboy: if you are connected directly to the internet you can get it from the interface address
[03:11] <DaPenguin> mine gives me my external ip
[03:12] <DrMorphias> hi. i am trying to install Ubuntu linux and i think grub2 installation failed.  I have to reinstall windows bootloader to get back into windows.  How do i configure grub2 for rocketraid?
[03:12] <Guest52242> Just installed Fedora 14 on Sony Vaio PCG-K27 and cannot run Netgear autorun.exe for product GWU625.  It says it supports Fedora 10(kernal:2.6.27.5-117)  do I have to only install this specific release for the hardware to work?
[03:12] <spirals> skullboy, please refer to the specific directions I gave for traceroute earlier: "traceroute google.com" and use your BRAIN to look at the output.
[03:12] <xangua> Guest52242: ask in #fedora
[03:12] <bob__> holmser: can you boot from stick or cd and run e2fsck on the suspect drive
[03:12] <spirals> skullboy, the first IP that's not a local network IP in the output, is your router's external IP
[03:13] <Guest52242> ty xangua
[03:13] <Jasonn> spirals: do you know what i can do if m_regex_pcre.so is missing? (Its a module)
[03:13] <Jasonn> spirals: that might be the problem
[03:13] <holmser> bob__: I ran e2fsck from gparted already.  no dice
 i know you can get it from connecting to a server how do i get it without connecting to a server
[03:14] <spirals> Jasonn, i googled "ubuntu m_regex_pcre.so" and the top two results say to install "gnutls-bin gnutls-dev gnutls" packages
[03:15] <spirals> skullboy: follow the directions I already gave you to google your router's model name and log into its web interface and get the IP address from there
[03:15] <bob__> holmser: If I was you I would get another drive, put ubuntu on it and see what you can recover from the old one
[03:15] <DaPenguin> skullboy, it's usually on 192.168.0.1 or 1.1
 i trying not to connect to the router to get it
[03:16] <Jasonn> spirals: I tried looking for that, but it doesnt bring up any results, I mean in the repos, i know that i have to install a package, but i can tfind it, one sec ill get the name
 that is a local ip
[03:16] <spirals> skullboy, you need to make some sort of a connection to the device that has the address. if you aren't willing to then you need to reexamine what and why you're doing
[03:16] <spirals> and i can't help
[03:16] <nmaxchat> Dexter I dont feel comfortable changing everything on my PC
[03:16] <spirals> Jasonn, i'll check for the 10.10 name too
[03:16] <Jasonn> thanks :)
[03:16] <DaPenguin> skullboy, and the config in the router should tell you what the external ip is
[03:16] <holmser> when I run blkid I get this:  /dev/sda: PTTYPE="dos"
[03:17] <spirals> DaPenguin, don't bother, he wants a magic way to do it while being 'invisible'
[03:17] <holmser> why would it say it is a dos partition when it is really ext4?
[03:17] <holmser> how do I change that?
[03:17] <spirals> Dapenguin, four different people have told him how to do it
[03:17] <DaPenguin> spirals, oh, ok
[03:17] <bob__> holmser: do you have dual boot with windows?
[03:17] <Jasonn> spirals: I see what it does, but i dont see any info on it, anywhere you know i can get support for this? like a channel? #inspircd doesnt work
[03:18] <jtannenbaum> I'm on 10.10, I updated the kernel, compositing broke!
[03:18] <holmser> nevermind... when I run blkid I get this:  /dev/sda1: ambivalent result (probably more filesystems on the device, use wipefs(8) to see more details)
[03:18] <spirals> Jasonn, it looks like it's "gnutls-bin libgnutls-dev libgnutls26"
[03:18] <nmaxchat> Can I get help getting my Open Office 3.2 spellcheck working ?
[03:18] <spirals> Jasonn: in 10.10 anyway
[03:18] <spirals> Jasonn: my best guess is the general IRC support in #freenode, or the project's official forums (more likely)
[03:18] <Jasonn> Thank you :)
[03:19] <rww> #freenode isn'
[03:19] <Jake_> skullboy: The only way to do this without connecting external of the machine that I know of is to connect your machine direct to net.  But network configurations change so much there is no one way to do it if you are not directly connected
[03:19] <rww> t very good at helping with random ircds :\
[03:20] <jquest71> quit
[03:20] <skullboy> shit
[03:20] <jquest71> oops
[03:20] <IdleOne> skullboy: language please
[03:20] <stillbourne> is there a casper mailing list or something?
[03:21] <alex__> this sucks :(
[03:21] <alex__> i cant find anything i thoughtbuntu is easy to use
[03:21] <spirals> Jasonn: "sudo apt-get install gnutls-bin libgnutls-dev libgnutls26" on 10.10
[03:21] <alex__> its nothing works
[03:21] <kellnola_> alex__, uh, can you be more specific?
[03:21] <DaPenguin> alex__, what exactly are u trying to do?
[03:22] <alex__> kellnola_, i cant get my graphics card to work, my touch pads, my wireless, my brightness, sound
[03:22] <[deXter]> So, anyone?
[03:22] <alex__> nothing except wired internet will work :(
[03:22] <syrinx_> [deXter]: anyone what?
[03:22] <[deXter]> syrinx_: Anyone have any idea?
[03:22] <alex__> i searched forums, it linked to some code, i dont even know how to use it
[03:23] <DaPenguin> alex__, have u tried the restricted drivers?
[03:23] <syrinx_> [deXter]: any idea about....?
[03:23] <alex__> im in xubuntu, is it there?
[03:23] <[deXter]> syrinx_: about the question I asked before?
[03:23] <jtannenbaum> updated to Kernel Linux 2.6.35-28-generic on 10.10, compositing doesn't work, compiz/docky effects gone, etc
[03:23] <DaPenguin> !restricted | alex
[03:23] <syrinx_> [deXter]: might want to ask it again, mate
[03:23] <spirals> syrinx_, wait for it.. wait for it... haha
[03:23] <[deXter]> syrinx_: My maverick refuses to automount external hard drives (usb) anymore. I end up having to mount it manually and then set the right permissions so that I can access it without root. Any ideas how to fix it back to the default behaviour? Thanks.
[03:24] <Jasonn> spirals: THANK YOU <333333
[03:24] <syrinx_> spirals: lol
[03:24] <spirals> Jasonn did that give you the build deps?
[03:24] <syrinx_> you called it
[03:24] <Jasonn> spirals: no :(
[03:24] <the_core> terry: you here?
[03:24] <spirals> Jasonn, oh well at least you have something relevant to post to the irc server's forums now.
[03:24] <spirals> ;)
[03:25] <alex__> DaPenguin, no that for formats, doesnt help me
[03:25] <alex__> i need drivers
[03:25] <DaPenguin> !drivers
[03:25] <Jasonn> spirals: :)) Yepp, or something to fill up lines with, i hope soo many other people suffer with this problem MWAHAHAHAH
[03:25] <rww> ubottu: tell GeekyAdam|AFK about away
[03:25] <spirals> Jasonn: keep googling that error too, I only scratched the googsurface
[03:25] <spirals> Jasonn: might find a different package that helps
[03:26] <DaPenguin> alex__, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedDrivers, try that page
[03:26] <spirals> [deXter], if it's a data drive only (no Linux system directories) you should be able to just change ownership of all files to your user
[03:26] <Jasonn> spirals: Yeah, anyways, thanks for the help :)
[03:26] <dustin_> any of you folks good at configureing tor/tork im haveing trouble with setting it all up :( and desperately need help with it to make my system alittle safer if possible.
[03:26] <GeekyAdam|AFK> rww: i got the pm, seems weird for just changing my nick to AFK, but i hear ya
[03:26] <syrinx_> dustin_: -_-
[03:26] <DaPenguin> alex__, usually it autodetects but sometimes you have to grab them manually
[03:27] <spirals> [deXter], or at least the files that you need access to
[03:27] <[deXter]> spirals: It's not one particular drive, it's *all* external drives. They're all ntfs btw.
[03:27] <[deXter]> spirals: Well all external hard drives; removable drives seem to work fine.
[03:27] <spirals> [deXter], are you mounting them through Places menu? I can read/write fine to my ntfs that way
[03:27] <spirals> Jasonn, sure thing, if you find out more about implementation details needed on ubuntu come back and ask
[03:28] <[deXter]> spirals: Yes that's how it used to be but the problems started when I decided to try a newer version of ntfs-3g. Since then I've uninstallled it and gone back to the default one in the repos but the behaviour hasn't changed back.
[03:28] <dustin_> hmm syrinx, ive asked several times and im about at my limits with this tor buisness :( its very hard to get it setup
[03:28] <Jasonn> spirals: I actually just found the irc network , so im complaining there, thanks for your help bud
[03:28] <spirals> [deXter], aha! that sounds relevant. let's see where the settings are, one sec
[03:28] <spirals> Jasonn: perfect!
[03:29] <jospams> is there a way to edit Windows Bootloader from ubuntu
[03:29] <[deXter]> Thanks.
[03:29] <taran> I can browse a folder name New Folder Imp but cant c it in Disk Utility.
[03:29] <DaPenguin> dustin_, I run tor, what seems to be the issue?
[03:30] <jospams> the bootloader is installed but it just redirects me to grub, I want the timeout to change, so i can atleast boot to windows
[03:30] <JTallis> Hey, I was here earlier about the Ubuntu Installation. I removed the partition so I now have 100GB unallocated, I believe that's how it should be - right? I also did an md5 checksum on the ISO and they matched. So why is it saying "Could not find the installation files /ubuntu/install/custom-installation
[03:30] <syrinx_> dustin_: its in the repositories, i believe
[03:30] <Jake_> Anyone here ever work with a multitouch monitor and ubuntu?
[03:30] <DaPenguin> jospams, what version of windows?
[03:30] <jospams> 7
[03:30] <[deXter]> jospams: If it's windows XP or below, you can just edit the boot.ini file. Otherwise I'm afraid you'll have to just use a windows live recovery CD (Which is freely downloadable btw.)
[03:30] <alex__> DaPenguin, okay i found restricted drivers in xubuntu, its in a different place
[03:31] <spirals> [deXter], please see http://b.andre.pagesperso-orange.fr/permissions.html scroll down to last page, 4th to last paragraph. It addresses your specific situation.
[03:31] <alex__> but all the other things stillhave a problem. is there a wiki guide for hardware. i remember ubuntu had something like that a long time ago, i can go through steps and fix it
[03:31] <JTallis> Whether it was on a CD or DVD I believe is irrelevant as it does autoboot, it's just looking for custom installation files?
[03:31] <dustin_> im haveing massive problems it wont work with tork and it wont work without it. not sure how to confgiure it for -unbuntu maverick 10.10 :( im so friggin lost 1sec need to finish this smoke quick penguin :(
[03:31] <jospams> [deXter], I have windows installation disk, will that work?
[03:31] <spirals> [deXter], it recommends using chown to fix after migrating from a standard ntfs-3g, which if i understand you correctly was the case
[03:31] <[deXter]> jospams: Which version of windows again?
[03:31] <DaPenguin> alex__, yeah, different ubuntu flavors keep things in different places, one of the things with so many options for how to set up the OS
[03:31] <jospams> 7
[03:31] <syrinx_> dustin_: sorry, can't help you
[03:31] <jospams> sorry
[03:31] <[deXter]> spirals: Yes, that was indeed the case.
[03:32] <DaPenguin> jospams, hmm, with xp you could just edit the ini file, 7 does it differently tho
[03:32] <snake_> I'm trying to install synapse: node based compositing software. and I'm getting an error in alter's output: "cannot find libalter.so.1." the file is there though.
[03:32] <spirals> [deXter], that page (which is quite up to date) does recommend against doing it on windows system files, so I want to clarify again that these are just data drives
[03:32] <[deXter]> jospams: Yeah you can use that just boot into it and press Shift+F10 to launch the terminal instead of going thru with the setup.
[03:33] <jospams> [deXter], then what
[03:33] <[deXter]> spirals: Yeah these are data files primarily for storage.
[03:33] <DaPenguin> snake_, might need to update your library paths, or pass the proper location to ./configure or make if you're rolling from source
[03:33] <[deXter]> jospams: Then you'll have to use the bootrec command. But this is going way off topic, you might want to ask in ##windows
[03:33] <spirals> [deXter], do you have a terminal open already navigated to a subdirectory of one of the ntfs drives in question?
[03:33] <[deXter]> spirals: Yep
[03:34] <dustin_> im back penguin
[03:34] <spirals> [deXter], ok we're going to test on a single folder, find a folder that has a few files in it and get into its parent folder
[03:34] <jospams> [deXter], i have tried bootrec.exe /RebuildBcd and it says I have 0 windows installations, i guess we can blame wubi for that
[03:34] <Jake_> Night all
[03:34] <DaPenguin> dustin_, ok, what was the issue again? tor right?
[03:34] <dustin_> see the problem is im very lost so to speak i dled all the stuff set it up and attempted a blind configureation which failed . ya tor and tork
[03:34] <spirals> [deXter], then run "sudo chown -R dexter.dexter folder" where dexter is your username and folder is the test folder.
[03:34] <Rehan> Hi guys, I'm using a 500GB HDD and will be installing Win7 and Ubuntu side by side. Could anyone give any recommendations on how big I should make each partition?
[03:34] <unomi> Hi, I am having some issues testing html5 drag-file-to-browser is this expected?
[03:35] <[deXter]> jospams: before you do that you'll have to fix the mbr and then the boot and then rebuild the bcd
[03:35] <jospams> [deXter], I tried following instructions here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392
[03:35] <dustin_> i got no idead to properly install and run it. then id like to run it through TORK<
[03:35] <DaPenguin> dustin_, ok, you'll need polipo as well
[03:35] <dustin_> just dled that could you please help :(
[03:35] <spirals> [deXter], after that see if you can do what you're trying to do, in that folder you took ownership of. if so, we'll do it for the whole drive
[03:35] <jospams> oooh
[03:35] <unomi> rather, is it supposed to work in linux?
[03:35] <jospams> [deXter], THX
[03:36] <DaPenguin> dustin_, you'll also need to start the various daemons, sudo /etc/init.d/tor start and sudo /etc/init.d/polipo start
[03:36] <spirals> dustin_, also try in #tor for tor support
[03:36] <jospams> [deXter], I will be back in 10 mins and report results
[03:36] <syrinx_> dustin_ , DaPenguin could someone please clear up what exactly TOR is? I often here it associated with some, uh....bad things
[03:36] <[deXter]> spirals: Thing is I've already set the permissions for my mount folder so I could already do what I wanted to
[03:36] <[deXter]> jospams: cool
[03:37] <[deXter]> spirals: But in any case, I'll chown the entire drive and test after a reboot
[03:37] <DaPenguin> syrinx_, it's a distributed proxy network, good at masking your ip
[03:37] <JTallis> well that's strange.
[03:37] <spirals> [deXter], no reboot should be necessary to take effect
[03:37] <dustin_> its to give yourself annomity surfing etc. so mailware sites cant get ur ip etc.
[03:37] <syrinx_> DaPenguin: is it an FOSS project?
[03:37] <DaPenguin> syrinx_, not exactly
[03:38] <JTallis> I took out the ubuntu installation disk, and it sitll asks to run it.
[03:38] <JTallis> interesting.
[03:38] <dustin_> ive read the tor project spirals and still ive failed so id like a walk through for it if possible :(
[03:38] <spirals> [deXter], the goal is to make the automount just work, and based on what you've said, you might need to manually run through and do the recursive chown on the entire drive just once, to rebuild the proper ACL and get automount to behave
[03:38] <syrinx_> DaPenguin: sounds like something I'd want to stay far away from
[03:38] <JTallis> maybe that's why, hmm
[03:38] <spirals> dustin_, definitely #tor and keep googling, there are dozens of guides, it's offtopic for ubuntu
[03:39] <DaPenguin> syrinx_, it's gets a bad rap as crackers often use it to prevent backtraces of their ips
[03:39] <RobotCow> dustin_ -> hello
[03:39] <Polah> I couldn't connect to my VPS via FTP or SSH due to my language settings being different from the servers. I've changed my settings to match and I can use SSH now but I can't use FTP still, any help?
[03:39] <dustin_> hello robotcow. nice name btw
[03:39] <DaPenguin> syrinx_, but blaming tor for the activities of crackers is like blaming ski mask manufacturers for the activities of bank robbers lol
[03:39] <RobotCow> dustin_ -> i missed the convo. so which irc client are you attempting to use tor with?
[03:39] <Rehan> Hi guys, I'm using a 500GB HDD and will be installing Win7 and Ubuntu side by side. Could anyone give any recommendations on how big I should make each partition?
[03:40] <syrinx_> DaPenguin: see pm
[03:40] <snake_> DaPenguin, yeah it turns out I had to set up some environment variables, though they lacked that information in the included README :P
[03:40] <spirals> Rehan, that depends entirely on your use cases for the two operating systems.
[03:40] <Rehan> spirals: would you recommend two OS partitions and a 3rd media partition?
[03:41] <spirals> Rehan: that depends entirely on your use cases
[03:41] <dustin_> thanks spirals but i need someone who actually know's how to configure it. i dont understand why makeing your ip annomymous is a bad thing ????
[03:41] <itachi> hello
[03:41] <spirals> dustin_ go to #tor channel, they are tor support
[03:41] <holmser> I found a thread where someone is having the same problem as I am, but unfortunately none of the fixes on the thread seem to work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1068895&page=3
[03:41] <prappl93> Okay, there are some YouTube videos that I can only watch in the channel and not on the search page where I found it at. Any suggestions how to fix this or do I just have to use the channel?
[03:41] <bonjoyee> Rehan: one swap partition ..if you are going to use hibernation...or you are a bit low on RAM...
[03:42] <spirals> Rehan: if you know you want a third data partition, you can make it ntfs as Ubuntu can read/write to it
[03:42] <taran> I had OS installed on one disk..Now its grub is deleted.I want to install new OS.but its not permiting
[03:42] <spirals> bonjoyee, the swap partition is taken care of by the installer these days
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: i'd make 10Gb for /, 1 x RAM for swap, 10Gb for /home and the rest NTFS for windows (store your user data on the windows partition but keep configs obviosly in /home)
[03:42] <dustin_> oh... i will thanks spirals but robotcow is gonna explain some things to me and dapenguin is as well
[03:42] <dustin_> thank all of you folks for answering my rants ;)
[03:43] <Rehan> ActionParsnip: I have 6GB of RAM. So a 6GB swap, which OS refers to '/' ?
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: depends what the ubuntu OS is used for
[03:43] <spirals> Rehan: ActionParsnip has a good blueprint for a traditional design but you still haven't told us what you're doing with both systems, it's really hard to say.
[03:43] <bonjoyee> spirals: the whole point of using linux for me is that it gives YOU the control!!
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: / is the ubuntu root partition. With 6Gb RAM you can omit swap if you wish (if suspend is not required)
[03:43] <edbian> +1 bonjoyee
[03:44] <Rehan> spirals: Win7 to be used 90% of the time, Ubuntu to be used just to mess around in from time to time, rename stupid folders that Windows can't handle or delete, etc
[03:44] <[deXter]> spirals: Okay so first of all it's no longer auto-mounting, second when I mount it I am able to do all stuff - however - when I try to unmount it I get "umount: /media/blah is not in the fstab (and you are not root)"
[03:44] <RubenAlonzo> Greetings everyone
[03:44] <holmser> when I run wipefs /dev/sda I get this error:  wipefs: error: /dev/sda: appears to contain 'dos' partition table
[03:45] <prappl93> Aww.... I went to gnome-terminal and typed in "sudo make me a toilet" and it didn't work... lmao.
[03:45] <RubenAlonzo> does anyone use 10.04 Lucid Lynx? I just downloaded the netbook remix version of that since i think it does not have the unity bar at left as a constant, is this true?
[03:45] <spirals> bonjoyee, that's great but new users should be able to gloss over irrelevant details, especially if they don't know what they want or why
[03:45] <IdleOne> rww: you any good with calculus?
[03:46] <Guest53566> hi
[03:46] <prappl93> IdleOne, I'm all right with it if you need help
[03:46] <Rehan> ActionParsnip, spirals: I'm not a programmer or anything. Just someone who wants to learn a little about the innerworkings of linux but still having Win7 as my day to day OS. It would be kind of nice to have one partition where I could store all my movies/music/pictures that I could access from either OS but only if it doesn't change very much in terms of how Win7 deals with it
[03:46] <Guest53566> hello
[03:46] <spirals> Rehan: OK, go with the ActionParsnip plan :)
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: the default is to use 2 partitions, one for data and one for swap, if you use custom partitioning you can make a more detailed file structure
[03:46] <IdleOne> prappl93: sorry was just a test between channel ops. appreciate the offer :)
[03:47] <drknzz> Hi guys! How can i kill wine from a console? Im on irssi at a secondary terminal
[03:47] <edbian> drknzz, killall wine
[03:47] <jasono> Hello I updated and it gave me this http://paste.ubuntu.com/585747/ Can anyone please help me get rid of that?
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: install Windows first but do NOT accept the dumb default but instead, install to a portion of the drive space available
[03:47] <spirals> [deXter], do sudo umount /media/blah
[03:47] <edbian> drknzz, But it's more likely that you want to kill some other processing that wine forked.  You should look at the output of ps -e   it will show all current processes
[03:47] <spirals> [deXter], excuse me that should have been:
[03:47] <Rehan> ActionParsnip: thank you for the constant help. So should I format my drive first, then create a partition for Win7 and install Win7 to that first?
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: the free space will then be available to you when you install Ubuntu and you won't have to do any resing at all
[03:48] <RubenAlonzo> Does 10.04 Lucid Lynx have the Unity icon bar as a constant on the left like Maverick Meerkat?
[03:48] <xangua> !gpg | jason
[03:48] <spirals> [deXter], sudo umount [mountpoint of blah]. You can't umount a drive that isn't in fstab without referring to its mountpoint
[03:48] <xangua> !gprerr | jasono
[03:48] <xangua> !gpgerr
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: yes install win7 first then when ubuntu is installed the grub loader will manage the dual boot. again, do not just click next like most windows users do
[03:49] <Rehan> ActionParsnip: ok, I can def handle that part. And if I do want a 3rd partition for media only, should I create that partition at the same time I'm creating the win7 one or should I do that in the Ubuntu installer?
[03:49] <[deXter]> spirals: Thanks but now how do I make it so that I can unmount as a normal user from nautilus, like how it was before?
[03:49] <prappl93> I feel like I'm in The Matrix... someone randomly sent me a message adverting the Calculus room....
[03:49] <jasono> xangua thank you?
[03:49] <spirals> [deXter], i'm looking into that
[03:49] <edbian> prappl93, I got it too. It's just some spam / troll
[03:49] <spirals> [deXter], i don't want to have to tell you to manually edit your fstab
[03:49] <prappl93> Figured as much.
[03:50] <spirals> [deXter], sec
[03:50] <prappl93> Time to +m myself it seems. Lmao
[03:50] <RubenAlonzo> is it someone named sailorreality?
[03:50] <DaPenguin> prappl93, you're getting those too? lol
[03:50] <bonjoyee> prappl93: count me in as well..
[03:50] <RubenAlonzo> or close too that?
[03:50] <edbian> yes
[03:50] <abahkaiyisah> anyone ever use partedmagic ?
[03:50] <RubenAlonzo> edbiantha nks
[03:50] <RubenAlonzo> thanks*
[03:50] <[deXter]> abahkaiyisah: What about it?
[03:50] <DaPenguin> looks like someone's running a bot script
[03:51] <abahkaiyisah> partition clone over network
[03:51] <prappl93> Crap... I don't know the mode-types that well on here... oh well. Just put up with it.
[03:51] <JTallis> I tried to install Wubi, but it says it cannot fine the installation iso.
[03:51] <JTallis> What the hell is Ubuntu going crazy on every method of installation
[03:51] <razz1> whats the command to display hardware info with manufacturer details, lshw just says I got 4gb memory, Is there a way to know the manufacturer name, and other specs of the RAM modules
[03:51] <RubenAlonzo> Hey all, does 10.04 have that unity icon bar as a constant on the lft like 10.10 does?
[03:51] <bonjoyee> abahkaiyisah: i have used clonezilla for that purpose earlier..
[03:52] <drknzz> To whoever suggested killall wine, it didnt work :S Any more ideas?
[03:52] <abahkaiyisah> never bonjoyee
[03:52] <spirals> [deXter], I think I found the proper way: http://b.andre.pagesperso-orange.fr/usermap.html  "usermap", scroll down to the Linux-specific directions. That's the official howto
[03:52] <xangua> RubenAlonzo: no
[03:52] <JTallis> strangely enough, according to the drive I installed wubi on, it's found.
[03:52] <RubenAlonzo> xangua thank you
[03:52] <Rehan> ActionParsnip: one other question if you don't mind -- If I choose not to have a media partition, will I still be able to easily access the media stored on the Win7 partition thru Ubuntu? And can I make shortcuts to it in the 'Places' menu?
[03:52] <RubenAlonzo> be back ina bit after dual boot of 10.04
[03:53] <spirals> [deXter], also see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1399595 for context
[03:53] <DaPenguin> Rehan, yes, you'll just need to add a mountpoint for it
[03:53] <prappl93> How long after 11.04 is released do you suggest waiting to avoid the server "traffic-jam" from multiple access to the repos?
[03:54] <edbian> prappl93, A couple days
[03:54] <brandon420> prappl93, a month?
[03:54] <brandon420> lol
[03:54] <bonjoyee> Rehan: its advisable to have a third partition..and store all user files on it..that way you have the flexibility to format the windows part at will in case of some issues...
[03:54] <Rehan> DaPenguin: is that difficult? I'm looking to have the most "normal" Win7 setup possible, while also having Ubuntu
[03:54] <brandon420> there are alot of people that use ubuntu, and not all will update on the same days.
[03:54] <prappl93> Is anyone else having that YouTube problem or does my computer just hate me? Lol
[03:54] <razz1> is is better to go with 32 bit and PAE or 64 bit to use more RAM
[03:54] <DaPenguin> Rehan, wubi install or standalone partition?
[03:54] <edbian> razz1, oh 64 bit of course
[03:54] <brandon420> prappl93, what problem? browser?
[03:55] <Rehan> DaPenguin: going to do a stand-alone i think
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: it will be available in the places menu, you don't need a media partition. Ubuntu has ntfs read and write access, hence the small partition for /home
[03:55] <prappl93> I'm on Firefox and on some YouTube videos it won't load them unless I'm in the user's channel
[03:55] <spirals> prappl93, or just add a local Ubuntu archive mirror to your Software Sources
[03:55] <holmser> Is there a way to re write my partition table?
[03:55] <brandon420> wtf
[03:55] <brandon420> prappl93, try chrome?
[03:55] <brandon420> i only use chrome, and never have problems
[03:55] <DaPenguin> Rehan, ok, in that case shouldn't be too bad, you can usually mount it through the gui without too many issues
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: you only need a little space to store emails and temp internet files but your porn, images, justin beiber MP3s will be easily stored on the ntfs part
[03:56] <Rehan> DaPenguin: is there an alternative with fewer issues? Thank you
[03:56] <edbian> hahahaha
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> :D
[03:56] <Rehan> ActionParsnip: Justin Bieber AAC bro, need that lossless ;)
[03:56] <edbian> I keep all my justin beiber MP3's in FLAC on ext4 raid6
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: sounds same to me mate :)
[03:56] <brandon420> hahah
[03:57] <Rehan> haha
[03:57] <spirals> ActionParsnip, What is the most secure way to store my justin beiber oggs? I don't want my children accidentally finding them
[03:57] <LinuxGuy2009> Is there a way to get software-center to work with a DVD repository set and not throw an error? Its an offline machine and I would like to be able to use the nice software center. The error I get is "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.".
[03:57] <brandon420> its not a junstin beiber mp3, if its in flac....
[03:57] <DaPenguin> Rehan, or if you want it to automount you can set it up in /etc/fstab. it's kind of a pain if you're not familiar with linux drive mounting but you only have to do it once.
[03:57] <razz1> edbian: 8GB, year ago I tried ubuntu 64, wasted lot of time trying to fix stuff, you think it's mature now. I really dont want to spend my precious free time fixing silly issues. Are there many ubuntu 64 users here, please if you are using 64. let me know if it is worth the hassle.
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> spirals: store them in a folder owned by your user then make them their own account and make them NOT members of admin, OGGs are safe
[03:57] <edbian> razz1, It's much better now.
[03:57] <spirals> ActionParsnip, Woot. Thanks
[03:57] <brandon420> spirals, external hdd, encrypted, and set not to remember the pass when accessed
[03:57] <Rehan> DaPenguin: I see, and that would make it more of a "vanilla" Win7 install?
[03:58] <edbian> razz1, I am not personally using Ubuntu 64 bit
[03:58] <spirals> razz1, there's an official Adobe Flash plugin available in beta for 64bit now
[03:58] <edbian> spirals, He's talking about 64 Bit Ubuntu, not 64 bit flash specifically)
[03:58] <DaPenguin> Rehan, basically, it will attach the windows partition to a specific directory in your filesystem so you can access windows files from ubuntu
[03:58] <spirals> edbian, but flash was the #1 pain point for 64bit ubuntu for most of its existence ;)
[03:58] <holmser> Is there a way to re write my partition table?
[03:58] <JTallis> Can anyone help me out? It seems to be a common issue that everyone is refusing to help with.
[03:58] <edbian> spirals, I see.  Never knew that
[03:59] <razz1> spirals: edbian: yes flash, it's a pain in the neck. had lot of trouble with it.
[03:59] <spirals> edbian, people were doing all kinds of ridiculous workarounds ndiswrapper style
[03:59] <razz1> spirals: are you using 64
[03:59] <spirals> razz1: no
[03:59] <edbian> holmser, To what end?  You can use gparted on a live CD to edit the partitions however you want. (which implicitly edits the partition table)
[03:59] <micromatikal> Can anyone recommend a decent hardware firewall for a rack with just a couple servers in it?  Looking for a lower cost, possibly older option.  Know it's off topic lol, but figured I'd ask :)
[03:59] <edbian> spirals, Is it better now?  Or are you talking about present day workarounds
[04:00] <spirals> edbian, yeah it's better now, adobe supports the platform
[04:00] <Rehan> ActionParsnip, DaPenguin: So if I was to do a media partition, what would be a good size for the Win7 OS partition on a 500GB HDD? 20GB?
[04:00] <edbian> spirals, Excellent!
[04:00] <prappl93> Okay, what is the apt-get install for chrome? Lol
[04:00] <razz1> spirals: edbian: looks like you are the only two with opinions on 64 and you are not even running 64. not really inspiring confidence
[04:01] <holmser> edbian: long story short, windows wasn't booting, ran fixmbr & fixboot, now my sda1 is all screwed up.  testdisk detects the partition as fat, gparted sees it as ext4
[04:01] <holmser> I'm at a loss.
[04:01] <edbian> razz1, hahaha,  The truth is out there neo.  Keep looking
[04:01] <DaPenguin> Rehan, i'd reccomend a bit more than that for 7, I have this machine split with 300 gigs for ubuntu and 300 gigs for win 7
[04:01] <holmser> been working on this for the last 4 hours to no avail
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: depends how much stuff you have, Win7 needs at least 10Gb to install, then you have all your apps
[04:01] <bonjoyee> holmser: you must look into sfdisk
[04:01] <spirals> razz1: 64 isn't a big deal anymore, there are some library issues if you're developing with specific tools, I can't comment on those but you should google for "ubuntu 64" and your technology if you have concerns.
[04:01] <Rehan> ActionParsnip: thanks
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: if you plan your partitions, you can be like charlie sheen and WIN
[04:01] <edbian> holmser, Is testdisk a windows utility?  Besides these software packages reporting different things, how is it 'messed up'  does Ubuntu boot?  Does windows boot?
[04:02] <holmser> gnu testdisk
[04:02] <razz1> edbian: one thing you learn after using linux is to stay away from unstable stuff. Takes too much time to fix.
[04:02] <Rehan> ActionParsnip: haha. ok so i guess my next question is -- if I screw up and my partitions aren't the right size for whatever reason -- is there any going back 6 months from now or do I have to start all over?
[04:02] <holmser> edbian: ubuntu doesn't boot.
[04:02] <edbian> razz1, Hahah, exact opposite for me.  The messier the better :)  I am willing to spend the time though.
[04:03] <edbian> holmser, With what errors?
[04:03] <DaPenguin> Rehan, there are ways to nondestructively adjust partitions
[04:03] <spirals> razz1: if you have questions about using specific software on 64-bit ubuntu, you're likely to get specific answers, but the general answer is "it just works"
[04:03] <holmser> bob__: I ran e2fsck from gparted already.  no dice
[04:03] <holmser> whoops
[04:03] <DaPenguin> Rehan, gparted is pretty good at that
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: you can resize in gparted in live cd
[04:03] <Rehan> thank you guys
[04:03] <Rehan> you're being very patient
[04:03] <holmser> I found a thread where someone is having the same problem as I am, but unfortunately none of the fixes on the thread seem to work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1068895&page=3
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: id just use one big partition for windows so you can make all primary partitions
[04:04] <holmser> much easier than explaining it again
[04:04] <Rehan> ActionParsnip: ok and then do that method that DaPenguin recommended about making a mount point ?
[04:04] <DaPenguin> the limit is still 4 primary partitions if i remember correctly
[04:05] <edbian> DaPenguin, Yeah.  It's a limit enforced by the standards of physical hdds
[04:05] <edbian> DaPenguin, Probably not gonna change for a long time
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: the mount point is a folder, I'd just get the OSes installed for now and worry about stuff like thatlater
[04:05] <jiltdil>  i have a partiton named Data i want to permanntly mount it means after restartting system it is automaticallly mount hel pme to do this as m new one so i cannot understood so much documents
[04:05] <razz1> spirals: looks like majority are still on 32. atleast thats my feeling I get from his room. I will be sticking to 32. see how it goes. I have not done a fresh install since 2007. I am happy with my setup, never had a issue. will keep running it that way.
[04:05] <DaPenguin> Rehan, linux deals with drives differently than windows does
[04:05] <Rehan> ActionParsnip: yeah, I know, I'm overthinking it. I just want to make sure I know what I'm doing while someone who knows as much as you is around :P
[04:06] <bonjoyee> !fstab > jiltdil
[04:06] <spirals> razz1: if you have under 4GB RAM it makes little difference for most cases. If you have over 4GB, it's perfectly safe to go with 64
[04:06] <spirals> razz1: 64bit is well known to be mature by now, it's just not a big deal for most people
[04:06] <speedrunnerG55> hello fellow linux ussers
[04:06] <DaPenguin> razz1, i run 64 on my box and haven't run into any issues yet
[04:06] <edbian> speedrunnerG55, hello
[04:07] <razz1> DaPenguin: good to hear from a 64 user.
[04:07] <spirals> razz1: if you already have a 32bit install, probably not worth reinstalling for 64bit. I'm in that boat myself, I have a 2008 32bit install that has been upgraded in place. I do have 4GB of RAM but it's not worth reinstalling the OS to access half a gig, at the moment.
[04:07] <[deXter]> razz1: Well me and all my mates and practically everyone I know in person who uses GNU/Linux uses the 64 bit version. I don't see any reason to still use the 32 bit version..
[04:07] <DaPenguin> razz1, yeah, 2 years ago 64 bit had all kinds of issues but these days it's pretty much just as stable as 32
[04:08] <spirals> razz1: like they say, it's just us old-timers on 32bit now
[04:08] <edbian> [deXter], If you don't have 64 bit hardware might be a good reason...
[04:08] <[deXter]> edbian: Yes, of course. :)
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: I'm in here a fair bit and other users will help too
[04:08] <kbon> o.o
[04:08] <bonjoyee> razz1: i have been using 64bit since intrepid...now i am using debian stable(64bit)...
[04:08] <DingGGu> how to install 86x libraries on 64x?
[04:08] <kbon> hi
[04:08] <kbon> C:
[04:08] <DingGGu> how to install or apt-get x86 libraries on x64?
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: Windows is unable to access Ext4 as it sucks so you can move data between the OSes using the NTFS
[04:09] <bonjoyee> DingGGu: ia32-libs
[04:09] <spirals> DingGGu, look for packages with "32" in the name specifically. "apt-cache search lib | grep 32" etc.
[04:09] <razz1> spirals: exactly same, I have a clone of my 32, will try 64 and if I have any issues. can revert to 32.
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> DingGGu: use: packages.ubuntu.com
[04:09] <DingGGu> can't found libssl for x86
[04:09] <spirals> razz1: sounds like a good plan.
[04:10] <razz1> last few replies were reassuring, thank you all.
[04:10] <spirals> I only wish I could upgrade in-place to 64.
[04:10] <DaPenguin> razz1, just about every app has a 64 bit version these days anyway
[04:10] <Rehan> ActionParsnip: ok that last message confuses me. Does that mean I should have a separate media partition or does it mean if I install NTFS-3G I'll be fine?
[04:10] <DingGGu> bonjoyee: what is ia32-libs?
[04:10] <spirals> DingGGu, it's the main x86 libraries  you asked for.
[04:10] <razz1> now how do I get the memory module details in ubuntu. not just the size, all the details
[04:10] <DaPenguin> DingGGu, 32 bit x86 libraries
[04:10] <bonjoyee> DingGGu: those are 32bit libs that allow you to run 32bit apps on 64bit os..
[04:10] <holmser> fuck it.  reinstall time.
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: just keep your data files on the ntfs and ubuntu will be able to access them just fine
[04:10] <Rehan> ok
[04:11] <jtannenbaum> still have the issue: updated to Kernel Linux 2.6.35-28-generic on 10.10, compositing doesn't work, compiz/docky effects gone, etc
[04:11] <Rehan> ActionParsnip: thanks. sorry about so many questions
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: that's why I suggest a 10Gb home as most of your data will be on the ntfs
[04:11] <DingGGu> i just run utorrentserver on x64
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: it's cool
[04:11] <edbian> jtannenbaum, compiz --replace&    what does it say?
[04:11] <DingGGu> they said "if you x64, you just put x86 lib"
[04:11] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, that's something i still need to do is migrate my /home to it's own partition lol
[04:11] <spirals> razz1: lshw
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> DingGGu: yeah put the .so file in /usr/lib32
[04:12] <jtannenbaum> edbian:
[04:12] <razz1> DaPenguin: when I start on linux, time did not matter, fixing stuff was fun and a learning experience. now time is too precious to waste it on such stuff
[04:12] <jtannenbaum> edbian: sorry paste didn't work
[04:12] <edbian> jtannenbaum,:
[04:12] <edbian> jtannenbaum, That's ok
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: set it up at install time ;)
[04:12] <bonjoyee> DingGGu: then you need the ia32-libs package..
[04:12] <jtannenbaum> edbian: [1] 11581
[04:12] <spirals> razz1: like "sudo lshw -C MEMORY" also "sudo dmidecode"
[04:12] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, yeah, that would have made sense lol
[04:12] <jtannenbaum> edbian: also my screen goes bonkers for a bit and then returns to Boring Mode
[04:12] <edbian> jtannenbaum, composting is working again then?
[04:12] <jtannenbaum> nope
[04:13] <edbian> jtannenbaum, but no errors in the terminal?
[04:13] <jtannenbaum> actually there were
[04:13] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, i'll just split my existing one and rsync it over when i get around to it lol
[04:13] <jtannenbaum> let me pastebin
[04:13] <edbian> jtannenbaum, Yeah, need to see those buddy
[04:13] <spirals> razz1: actually I think what you want is faster with just dmidecode
[04:14] <jtannenbaum> edbian: they appeared out of nowhere when I pressed the up button in the terminal window. Here it is; sorry for the highlighting: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/359754/
[04:14] <bonjoyee> jtannenbaum: you must also look into Xorg.0.log under /var/log
[04:14] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, this was originally a wubi install I migrated so i didn't really think about it at the time
[04:14] <edbian> jtannenbaum, reading...
[04:14] <edbian> jtannenbaum, Graphics card?
[04:14] <jtannenbaum> I can never remember the commands to get info like that
[04:15] <razz1> spirals: lshw does not offer all the details, I want the manufacturer details, so that I know what to buy to upgrade
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: clean install when natty arrives and do it there :)
[04:15] <edbian> jtannenbaum, Do you not remember?  (lspci -k)  Please list the driver / module as well as the card.
[04:15] <debiankde> anyone leaving ubuntu because of unity and going kde?
[04:15] <Scott1> gotta question about my DVD drive if there's a queue for questions.
[04:16] <spirals> razz1, did you check "sudo dmidecode" - i get vendor info for mine there
[04:16] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, ugh, hate clean installs, have a lot of source compiled stuff I really don't want to have to go grab again
[04:17] <brandon420> DaPenguin, i feel your pain.
[04:17] <jtannenbaum> edbian: is this enough info: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/359756/
[04:17] <edbian> jtannenbaum, yes
[04:17] <spirals> razz1: correction: I don't actually see vendor in dmidecode for my DIMM slots. Only for other slots. Hmm.
[04:17] <razz1> bonjoyee: I an thinking of moving to Debian soon, sick of ubuntu pushing stuff out prematurely without fixing all bugs. whats your opinion.
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: i see, i always clean install. Less problems with old fluff hanging around
[04:18] <spirals> razz1: have fun reimplementing all the usability tweaks on top of vanilla debian, if it's a desktop system. (if it's a server, debian is fantastic)
[04:18] <debiankde> razzl: I switched to Debian KDE on my desktop just fine.
[04:18] <spirals> razz1: (speaking having managed dozens of debian installations on server, a few debian desktops, and a bunch of ubuntu desktops)
[04:19] <xangua> !ot
[04:19] <bonjoyee> razz1: theres very little difference in the working...but a huge one in principles...
[04:19] <Scott1> I need ubuntu support!
[04:19] <brandon420> Scott1, just ask the question, lol.
[04:20] <brandon420> if anyone can help, they will.
[04:20] <Scott1> My DVD player took in my movie DVD. It won't acknowledge it has it. The eject command doesn't work. Nor does the button.
[04:20] <razz1> spirals: when upgrading memory, what are the things that I need to keep in mind. I am trying to pick similar dimms as the ones I already have
[04:20] <brandon420> sounds like a problem with you drive, Scott1
[04:20] <edbian> jtannenbaum, join #intel-gfx with me
[04:20] <Scott1> It was fine yesterday.
[04:21] <razz1> bonjoyee: absolutely agree, principles matter. sold me on it.
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> Scott1: try:  sudo eject /dev/sr0
[04:21] <spirals> razz1: to be completely honest, I would go into the case and physically observe it, if you don't have an email from the vendor that you bought it from (sales receipt) to go back and refer to.
[04:21] <spirals> razz1: i always try to match identically. other than that, you need to match *timing* and *type*.
[04:21] <Scott1> it says it was successful
[04:21] <Scott1> it wasn't
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> Scott1: failing that, grab a paperclip and straighten it and shove it in the tiny hole on the drive to eject it
[04:22] <razz1> spirals: I know it's a gskill one not sure about timing
[04:22] <Scott1> Funny. I can't friggin find a paperclip. I came here after I gave up. :)
[04:22] <brandon420> haha
[04:22] <spirals> razz1: digging for timing, sec
[04:22] <bonjoyee> razz1: i was tired of the frequent changes ("ubuntufications" i call it) made to upstream packages that work perfectly without those..
[04:22] <brandon420> Scott1, anything small will work
[04:22] <Scott1> Ah. I'll reboot. Maybe the bios will magically fix something.
[04:22] <brandon420> toothpick, stable
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> Scott1: anything that will fit is acceptable
[04:22] <brandon420> staple*
[04:23] <the_core> hi all I have a newbie question,can someone please help me install FF4
[04:23] <DaPenguin> Scott1, do you have an old keyboard laying around?
[04:23] <Scott1> A friend came over today and helped me clean. I can't find *anything* small. lol
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> !ff4 | the_core
[04:23] <Scott1> DaP, yes
[04:23] <brandon420> tear it apart, there is something small in it
[04:23] <spirals> razz1: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6659527&postcount=6 for a method to get latency/timing info
[04:23] <DaPenguin> Scott1, if you pull off the spacebar you should find exactly what you need :)
[04:24] <spirals> razz1: it involves installing 1 package from ubuntu repos, loading a kernel module then running a command to view the info
[04:25] <Scott1>  Got it. Thanks! Now I want to put it back in to watch my movie, but I don't dare. :)
[04:26] <Scott1> bye all
[04:26] <owen1__> can i use usb-creator and put debian on it?
[04:27] <razz1> spirals: thanks, trying it now
[04:27] <spirals> razz1: me too, curious :)
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> owen1__: should be ok, if not then use unetbootin
[04:28] <spirals> razz1, boo, decode-dimms doesn't see anything at all for me.
[04:28] <spirals> hopefully you have a better result.
[04:28] <owen1__> ActionParsnip: installing the netbootin. thanks
[04:29] <rww> Debian ISOs are dd-able to USB sticks. If you tried the right channel, they'd tell you that ;)
[04:30] <razz1> spirals: i got: Number of SDRAM DIMMs detected and decoded: 0
[04:30] <spirals> razz1: it's more obnoxious, but if you reboot and select "memtest" in grub menu, you get complete info there
[04:31] <spirals> razz1: same, i think the 2008 release of decode-dimms utility doesn't work with modern systems
[04:31] <spirals> razz1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843760 shows a SS of what grub's memtest looks like and what to look for for timings
[04:32] <spirals> i would sure like to find out how to do this from the terminal though.
[04:33] <DaPenguin> spirals, and lshw doesn't give you manufacturer info?
[04:34] <razz1> spirals: I will just boot in to win and run pc-wizard software, its really good.
[04:34] <spirals> razz1: check grub's memtest option first, should be faster
[04:34] <spirals> if you're going to reboot anyway.
[04:35] <razz1> spirals: will do, thanks for the info
[04:35] <spirals> DaPenguin, for me it shows Manufacturer0 for DIMM0, etc. ;(
[04:35] <spirals> razz1: you're welcome
[04:35] <DaPenguin> spirals, hmm, mine gives me full info in the bank sections
[04:35] <spirals> DaPenguin, no doubt performance is specific to the motherboard and/or DIMM manufacturer.
[04:36] <DaPenguin> spirals, yeah, probably
[04:36] <spirals> DaPenguin, I'm using "sudo lshw -C MEMORY" for what it's worth.
[04:37] <DaPenguin> spirals, try sudo lshw >> lshw.txt, then search for "bank" in the text file
[04:38] <DaPenguin> spirals, how i did mine anyway, your mileage may vary of course lol
[04:38] <spirals> DaPenguin, yeah that drills down to the same info that I got with -C MEMORY
[04:38] <spirals> thanks though!
[04:38] <DaPenguin> yeah, figured
[04:39] <spirals> I think memtest86+ is the current solution. just annoying that it requires a boot.
[04:39] <spirals> or am i missing something about memtest
[04:40] <DaPenguin> spirals, not that i know of
[04:41] <DaPenguin> spirals, and I'm starting to have doubts about my laptop manufacturer as it appears they installed 2 different brands of RAM in the same machine...
[04:42] <DaPenguin> either that or lshw is on crack...
[04:42] <spirals> DaPenguin, What in hades....
[04:42] <spirals> Perhaps it's half soldered, half slotted
[04:43] <bonjoyee> DaPenguin: if you have the option.. try cpu-z on windows..that will give the best idea of what memory you are using..
[04:43] <DaPenguin> bonjoyee, yeah, just don't feel like rebooting lol
[04:43] <spirals> I think we've identified a niche for a new linux app.
[04:44] <spirals> or someone to take over i2c-tools
[04:44] <DaPenguin> http://pastebin.com/uf0UBCAW, see what you make of that
[04:45] <jerm_> word
[04:45] <spirals> DaPenguin, yeah yours is less broken than mine http://pastebin.com/0kzJpyxP
[04:46] <NDROfTheLine> does anybody know how i can help test drm-next kernel code
[04:47] <spirals> DaPenguin, that does look like 2 slots eh? why on earth would the vendor mix memory mfg
[04:47] <DaPenguin> spirals, lol, was just looking at mine, think the hynix stuff is the actual system ram, betting it's reading the expansion slots as having actual ram for some reason
[04:47] <spirals> DaPenguin, so it is the half-soldered case then
[04:48] <spirals> ?
[04:48] <DaPenguin> spirals, considering this machine only has 4gb of ram, and that's showing 6 I think that's what's going on
[04:48] <bob55433> Anyone around who can help with a busted 10.04 installation?
[04:49] <spirals> DaPenguin, yeah - 2 soldered and a 4 card
[04:49] <spirals> err
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> bob55433: please give details
[04:49] <spirals> now i'm confused. yeah wacky :D
[04:50] <DaPenguin> meh, it's fine as long as the system doesn't try to address non-existant memory lol
[04:51] <bob55433> Ok, well I was installing LAMP using a package and it started uninstalling ubuntu desktop, so I (foolishly) crashed out and now i only have command line access
[04:52] <bob55433> I am using live cd at the mo
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> bob55433: run: sudo apt-get -f install
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> bob55433: you can remove ubuntu-desktop package, it is a metapackage only
[04:52] <bob55433> the main problem is that i no longer have connection to the repos
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> bob55433:  you may still be able to run the command
[04:53] <bob55433> I've been using aptitude and can identify teh missing packages, but get the 'temporarily unavailable' error
[04:53] <bob55433> Yep I've tried that command - no joy
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> bob55433: then use a wired connection and it should be ok
[04:54] <Shuujin96> test
[04:54] <Shuujin96> test
[04:54] <restore_f2> hello
[04:55] <bob55433> It is currently a wired connection, can't get a ping of anything, not even the network
[04:55] <bonjoyee> Shuujin96: tested O.K
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> bob55433: try: sudo dhclient3 eth0
[04:55] <restore_f2> I added a shortcut using F2 key but now I want to get F2 back to rename files. How can I restore it?
[04:56] <owen1__> i am installing netinst usb on thinkpad x61 and get a message about missing wireless firmwae - iwlwifi-3945. googling found this - http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/all/firmware-iwlwifi/download
[04:57] <owen1__> what am i suppose to do with this file?
[04:57] <bob55433> ActionParsnip: Ok, so I'll have to grab a laptop and reconnect here so i can quite the live cd... back in a mo
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> owen1__: try: dpkg -S iwlwifi-3945
[04:57] <DaPenguin> spirals, ok, i'm an idiot, was thinking of my desktop, this machione does in fact have 6gb RAM lol, so yeah, 2 gb soldered and a 4gb card lol
[04:57] <owen1__> ActionParsnip: so first continue the install without it and when i am done i can do that?
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> owen1__: mixing debian debs and ubuntu debs isn't advised nor supported
[04:58] <restore_f2> !shortcuts
[04:58] <owen1__> ActionParsnip: oops. i am on debian
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> owen1__: then ask in #debian
[04:59] <owen1__> ActionParsnip: wrong channel..sorry
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> owen1__: this is #ubuntu for ubuntu support
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> :)
[05:02] <restore_f2> What package is linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> restore_f2: it is the linux-headers-yourkernelhere   e.g.  linux-headers-2.32.67-generic
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> restore_f2: the command will resolve itself appropriately for you
[05:03] <restore_f2> ActionParsnip: yeah is it necessary to compile stuff?
[05:04] <restore_f2> like sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) libgtk2.0-dev libssl-dev cmake
[05:05] <bonjoyee> restore_f2: mostly to compile/recompile kernel modules..
[05:05] <sheena1> hey all. I'm struggling to fix a sound problem on 10.04. i've tried a few things, but nothing seems to help.
[05:06] <brophat> someone was here last night helping me to get my wifi working but now wifi does not show up at all can someone help to try to get my wifi to show up again
[05:06] <restore_f2> sheena1: describe the problem
[05:07] <restore_f2> bonjoyee: may I pm?
[05:07] <sheena1> restore_f2: I have no sound at all. lspci shows my sound card, but aplay does not. It also doesnt show up in sound pref's under Hardware. i've reinstalled alsamixer, and tried a couple other random things. still no sound :(
[05:07] <DaPenguin> brophat, what does ifconfig show?
[05:07] <bonjoyee> restore_f2: i am not that good at compiling stuff...so please keep it in the channel if possible..
[05:08] <brophat> DaPenguin let me see
[05:08] <bonjoyee> sheena1: did it work before?
[05:08] <DaPenguin> brophat, cat it to a pastebin
[05:08] <brophat> ok
[05:08] <brophat> thanks
[05:08] <restore_f2> ActionParsnip bonjoyee: I want to play with xhydra and I am following this guide to compile it http://angger-kaboel.net/linux/installing-thc-hydra-5-9-on-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-with-ssl-support/
[05:09] <sheena1> bonjoyee: i've been running various versions of ubuntu on this laptop for 3+ years, had the occasional sound-gone issue that a reboot resolved.. it was working last night. it's possible i've done an update since then..
[05:09] <restore_f2> I just dont know why I need linux headers
[05:09] <DaPenguin> brophat, basically i'm trying to see if your system is even seeing the card
[05:09] <brophat> DaPenguin http://pastebin.com/ecYQPXA8
[05:09] <restore_f2> can you explani
[05:09] <brophat> ok
[05:10] <bonjoyee> sheena1: first check all the settings in alsamixer...for any obvious mistakes..else post more info about your sound hardware..
[05:10] <sheena1> bonjoyee: can you tell me which settings and how to check?
[05:10] <DaPenguin> brophat, ok, so the system is at least seeing it
[05:10] <brophat> yeah
[05:11] <restore_f2> anyway ill test it in virtualbox first :)
[05:11] <DaPenguin> but i'm guessing the network manager isn't
[05:11] <bonjoyee> sheena1: open a terminal...type alsamixer ..then check the levels for each output..also check it they are not muted,,,
[05:11] <brophat> correct
[05:11] <brophat> Dapenguin yes correct
[05:11] <brophat> something we did last night
[05:12] <sheena1> bonjoyee: When I do that, i see one output. It is set to full, and i read that there should be a green or grey box beneath it to designate if it's muted.. i dont see it there. i did make sure it was set to 100%. If i show all, i see one for output and one for input. still just the one output though..
[05:12] <sheena1> bonjoyee: can i paste links here?
[05:13] <brophat> DaPenguin so what do you think?
[05:13] <DaPenguin> brophat, you could always try iwconfig to bring it online
[05:13] <brophat> ok
[05:13] <bonjoyee> sheena1: please pastebin the output of "sudo lspci | grep -i audio" and "aplay -l" here
[05:14] <brophat> DaPenguin but why would the network manager not see it?
[05:14] <DaPenguin> brophat, that i'm not sure of. i usually run most stuff out of a console.
[05:14] <sheena1> bonjoyee: http://pastebin.com/WK0rMpLq
[05:14] <brophat> ok
[05:14] <sheena1> i also included the lspci output on my hardware
[05:15] <bob55433> ActionParsnip: there's quite a bit of data there and can't cut and paste so this is gonna be slow :) - DHCPDISCOVER on eht0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 [new line] HCPOFFER of 192.168.1.66 from 192.168.1.254 [new line] DHCPREQUEST of 192.168.1.66 on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 [new line] DHCPACK of 192.168.1.66 from 192.168.1.254 [new line] bound to 192.68.1.66 -- renewal in 38328 seconds.
[05:16] <DaPenguin> bob55433, try pastebininit, greatest utility ever lol
[05:16] <brophat> DaPenguin i am planing on getting another wifi card, do you think the network manager will see that?
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> bob55433: then you have an address, you can now access the repos
[05:16] <bonjoyee> sheena1: is this a laptop or desktop? also is this a 6 channel audio card? whats the model no for this computer?
[05:17] <brophat> well the network manager sees it but the card is not detecting any wireless networks
[05:17] <sheena1> bonjoyee: its a laptop. Toshiba Satellite u300. sorry,  I don't know how many channels it has. is there a way to find out? i can google it..
[05:17] <brophat> the wifi card must be turned off
[05:17] <joako> How do I determine what Ubuntu version I've installed? The closest thing I can find is /etc/debian_version...
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> joako: run: lsb_release -a
[05:17] <bob55433> can you clarify ActionP - fairly noobish here... what do i need to do with those ips?
[05:17] <DaPenguin> brophat, do you know the essid of the network you're trying to connect to?
[05:17] <ubuntu> Hi, I'm looking for a bit of help fixing grub. I was upgrading to natty and I think the mistake I made was accidentally replacing the existing grub.cfg file with some default one. Would my existing one have been backed up somewhere? I'm currently using a live version off my usb drive
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> sheena1: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[05:18] <brophat> DaPenguin isnt that the password?
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: natty support is in #ubuntu+1
[05:19] <brophat> yeah I do
[05:19] <brophat> ssid you mean?
[05:19] <sheena1> ActionParsnip: Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6c8d532104d3d5b61376aa0067063a85301b86da
[05:19] <sheena1> Please inform the person helping you.
[05:19] <DaPenguin> brophat, yeah
[05:19] <saptarshi> hi
[05:19] <brophat> yeah i know that
[05:19] <`greenlight> can anyone suggest a good screen casting tool for ubuntu 10.10
[05:19] <saptarshi> i am using 10.10
[05:20] <DaPenguin> brophat, it could be your router has name broadcast off. try connecting manually and see if it can find it
[05:20] <unomi> ActionParsnip, you have any thoughts on why drag-to-upload isn't working for me in either ff4 or Chrome? Xfce4 / Thunar if it matters
[05:20] <terry> ubuntu: sudo grub-setup
[05:20] <saptarshi> can anyone tell how to get rid of entering the password every time i open synaptic??
[05:20] <terry> I think
[05:20] <brophat> DaPenguin how do i connect manually
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> sheena1: add: options snd-hda-intel model=ref position_fix=1     to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf    then reboot
[05:20] <terry> !grub2 | ubuntu
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> unomi: not sure
[05:21] <brophat> DaPenguin no other networks are showing up either
[05:21] <brophat> so it is not that
[05:21] <Danielcg25> I'm running Ubuntu via a USB stick. I need to clone the two HDDs I have plugged in. How do I do this?
[05:21] <brophat> there are tons around here i am in an apartment complex
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> sheena1: actually use:    modprobe snd_hda_intel model=toshiba probe_mask=1
[05:22] <unomi> ActionParsnip, damn :) tried http://www.plupload.com/example_queuewidget.php and http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/imageUploader/ to no avail
[05:22] <ruan> if i try to remove libcups2, it wants to remove ALL of my other packages. how can i remove it without this issue?
[05:22] <brophat> DaPenguin therefore it is something with the card something we did last night
[05:22] <sheena1> ActionParsnip: add that modprobe.... to the file you said before?
[05:22] <ruan> !info libcups2
[05:22] <ruan> see, it's optional!
[05:22] <DaPenguin> brophat, hmm, not sure how to do it from the gui, but you can use iwconfig and try to force connect
[05:23] <Danielcg25> So how do I clone my drives? Ubuntu is running from a USB drive
[05:23] <brophat> DaPenguin   iwconfig interface [essid X]
[05:23] <unomi> ActionParsnip, nevermind! just for kicks I started up nautilus - and dragging from that actually works!
[05:23] <brophat> is that correct?
[05:23] <unomi> keep up the good work =)
[05:23] <DaPenguin> brophat, yes, where X is the network name
[05:23] <dian> ubuntu
[05:24] <joako> I've setup Ubuntu 10.10 and I can see it on the network, but when I try to access it I get a password error. I can SSH with the same user & password. Is there something I need to configure in Samba?
[05:24] <brophat> DaPenguin what is interface?
[05:24] <DaPenguin> brophat, wlan0 in your case
[05:24] <brophat> ok now how do i find out network name?
[05:24] <bonjoyee> sheena1: you could add "options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba" to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and then reboot...
[05:24] <Spurian> In Terminal, is there a command like Windows CMD's "Start" command to launch a process without waiting for it? Thanks
[05:25] <sheena1> ActionParsnip: bonjoyee: I added it to the end of the file. i'll reboot now
[05:25] <DaPenguin> brophat, it's the ssid of the network, for example "linksys"
[05:25] <ruan> Spurian: what exactly do you mean? you can run a process in the background
[05:25] <brophat> ok
[05:25] <DaPenguin> brophat, it's whatever the broadcast name of the router is
[05:26] <Spurian> ruan, I want to edit a file with gedit but still continue typing other commands in terminal
[05:26] <ruan> Spurian: gedit file &
[05:26] <ruan> Spurian: im gonna test that
[05:26] <bob55433> ActionParsnip: can you point me towards the next step in getting connected with that data? not really sure what it means :)
[05:27] <ruan> Spurian: [command] &
[05:28] <ruan> Spurian: & runs it in the background
[05:28] <Spurian> ruan, I just tested it and it works.  Thank you!
[05:28] <sheena> ActionParsnip: bonjoyee: back from reboot. no change?
[05:29] <ruan> Spurian: and if you need to bring it back to the terminal, use "fg"
[05:29] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: when you said "sheena1: actually use:    modprobe snd_hda_intel..." did you mean to add that to a file, or run it as a command?
[05:30] <DaPenguin> brophat, ok, if that doesn't work try this http://pastebin.com/abtr7qX6, it's one of 2 scripts i have for enabling/disabling my wireless card. that's the enable one
[05:30] <Spurian> ruan,  very cool
[05:30] <bonjoyee> sheena: what did you add to  alsa-base.conf
[05:30] <sheena> bonjoyee: modprobe snd_hda_intel model=toshiba probe_mask=1
[05:30] <ruan> there is also another option: "screen", however it is only needed if you're using the processes
[05:30] <bob55433> actionp: ok i get it, connection is restored... onwards
[05:31] <ruan> in the terminal
[05:31] <DaPenguin> brophat, the disable one is identical except the boolean value at the end is false
[05:31] <brophat> ok
[05:31] <bonjoyee> sheena: its "options snd_hda_intel model=toshiba probe_mask=1"
[05:31] <brophat> DaPenguin I did the command in the terminal and it went through but i don't see it listed in my network manager
[05:32] <sheena> bonjoyee: rebooting again. fixed.
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: ad it to the file
[05:33] <DaPenguin> brophat, hmm, give me a moment, doing some research
[05:33] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: I don't see any lines starting with 'modprobe' in any files in that directory
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: source: http://www.matusiak.eu/numerodix/blog/index.php/2007/10/31/gutsy-on-the-toshiba-u300/
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: you won't, those are the options to be used by default when modules are loaded
[05:34] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: that colon means it's refering to the following line, not the previous one
[05:34] <dooglus> ie. he's saying it's fixed by running the modprobe command, or adding the 'options' line to the config file
[05:35] <sheena> bonjoyee: back, no apparent change
[05:35] <bonjoyee> sheena: now check alsamixer again....
[05:35] <sheena> bonjoyee: no such file or directory
[05:36] <bonjoyee> sheena: ?
[05:36] <sheena> bonjoyee: that's what it says
[05:36] <bonjoyee> sheena: sure theres no typo?
[05:37] <johny_> I have installed ndiswrapper package to handle my wireless networking after my chip could not be supported by the broaddcom driver packages
[05:37] <sheena> home@home:~$ alsamixer
[05:37] <sheena> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[05:37] <johny_> so after installing ndiswrapper, how do I locate the appropriate <drivers>.inf file for my chip?
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> sheena: sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[05:38] <dublisk> Hi, ubuntu has just crashed on my twice now. The screen goes black and then 2 seconds later I get a login screen. When I login all the programs have closed.
[05:38] <dublisk> How can I figure out what is going wrong
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> sheena: did you add the 2nd line I gave to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[05:38] <bonjoyee> sheena: one last try could be to add just "options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba" to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and reboot..or else I am out of this..
[05:38] <sheena> already the newest version, ActionParsnip
[05:39] <sheena> ActionParsnip: i did, rebooted, no change, then switched it to bonjoyee's option one, also no change
[05:39] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: check 'man 5 modprobe.d' - it tells you that lines in the modprobe.d config files can't start with the word 'modprobe'
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> sheena: try changing the model to: model=laptop
[05:39] <sheena> bonjoyee: so just taking off the last bit probe mask?
[05:39] <bonjoyee> sheena: yes...
[05:40] <sheena> ActionParsnip: to bonjoyee's or to yours?
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: read the files yourself, or many guides for sound, they need that sort of line adding
[05:40] <NeT_DeMoN> Hi, I used a command to disable my faulty touchpad on my laptop and my mouse no longer clicks but I can move it and the touchpad still works. I had found this article about disabling the touchpad and when I went to find the device ID it said 10 and I used the command 'xinput set-prop 10 "Device Enabled" 0' and I disabled it to start up and I restarted but I'm still having problems.
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> sheena: whatever the model= says currently, change it to laptop
[05:40] <sheena> ActionParsnip: so now i have "options snd_hda_intel model=laptop" as the added line in alsa-base.conf
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> sheena: if that doesn't work then try changing it to generic
[05:40] <sheena> reboot again?
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> sheena: I also recommend you upgrade your alsa to 1.0.23 with: http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2010/05/02/upgrade-alsa-1-0-23-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> sheena: reboot to test inbetween
[05:42] <sheena> ActionParsnip: that upgrade looks complicated..
[05:42] <JohnnyZero> Can I ask what the difference is between Unity and Gnome? (since 11.04 is coming next month I'm just curious)
[05:42] <dnivra> hello. I am trying to set up my phone with Ubuntu 10.10-add it to known devices. I click on the bluetooth applet, set up new device, next and Ubuntu detects my phone but is just unable to connect to it. It just says "Connection to <phone's name> failed.". What is possibly wrong?
[05:42] <DaPenguin> brophat, what does sudo lshw -C network show?
[05:43] <JohnnyZero> Is it just a couple of things or is it lots of things?
[05:43] <brophat> ok hold on let me see
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> sheena: its step by step....
[05:43] <dnivra> !unity | JohnnyZero
[05:43] <JohnnyZero> oh ok thank you
[05:43] <sheena> ActionParsnip: yes, it is. just very long for an upgrade. i can do it tomorrow sometime though.
[05:43] <DaPenguin> brophat, we just want to make sure there's a driver listed
[05:44] <sheena> ActionParsnip: rebooting again.
[05:44] <brophat> DaPenguin yea it all seems to be there
[05:46] <DaPenguin> brophat, ok, can you pastebin the output of iwconfig?
[05:46] <brophat> DaPenguin you mean just type iwconfig ?
[05:46] <sheena> ActionParsnip: no change with "laptop"
[05:46] <nek> hello
[05:47] <DaPenguin> brophat, yes
[05:47] <sheena> ActionParsnip: i guess i could try with generic, but i think i'll leave it for tonight and try again tomorrow. is it possible its a hardware issue?
[05:47] <brophat> DaPenguin  http://pastebin.com/tub6qsJE
[05:47] <DaPenguin> brophat, that and lshw -C network -sanitize
[05:47] <brophat> ok
[05:48] <DaPenguin> brophat, nvm on the lshw paste
[05:48] <DaPenguin> brophat, think i see the issue
[05:49] <brophat> DaPenguin  http://pastebin.com/qRnH0tYg
[05:49] <DaPenguin> brophat, do you have wpasupplicant installed?
[05:49] <sukaflops> fml, accidentally closed irc
[05:49] <brophat> DaPenguin don't know
[05:49] <sukaflops> hmmm battery is showing 93% now... maybe im just not used to it being so much larger
[05:50] <DaPenguin> brophat, try sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant
[05:50] <brophat> ok
[05:51] <brophat> DaPenguin yeah i guess it was already installed
[05:51] <DaPenguin> brophat, ok, let's try a dbus restart: sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[05:52] <dnivra> I am trying to set up my phone with Ubuntu 10.10 I click on the bluetooth applet, set up new device, next and Ubuntu detects my phone but is just unable to connect to it. It just says "Connection to <phone> failed.". What is possibly wrong? I did it earlier but deleted the devices from both the phone and the computer before trying again.
[05:53] <SkrappJaw> Quick help. I'm having problems with my SSH remote X server. ubuntu 10.04 host with vbox debian guest. I can connect through the network to host but not the otherway.
[05:53] <SkrappJaw> ssh: connect to host 192.xxx.x.xxx port 22: Connection refused
[05:54] <sheena> ActionParsnip: have we done anything that might cause unexpected reboots?
[05:55] <brophat> DaPenguin pk
[05:55] <brophat> ok
[05:55] <brophat> it bombed the system
[05:55] <joako> I don't understand why I need "mount --bind /home/users /export/users"  to run Ubuntu NFS server... can't I just directly export e.g. /home/joako?
[05:55] <NeT_DeMoN> If I get the error "Unable to connect to X server" how do I find out what's wrong or restart it since it dies after every restart?
[05:55] <DaPenguin> brophat, yeah, forgot to tell you it would do that, sorry
[05:56] <brophat> ok well still no wirless showing up in network manager
[05:56] <DaPenguin> brophat, hmm
[05:57] <DaPenguin> one sec
[05:57] <sunit> I am trying to run a sql file as cronjob every five minutes. I have written * * * * * /usr/bin/psql -h localhost -p 5432 -U postgres openbravomp14 -1 -f /home/starlite/Desktop/SQLQuery1.sql > /tmp/trial.log 2>&1
[05:58] <sunit> Am I correct ?
[05:58] <restore_f2> hi
[05:58] <brophat> DaPenguin maybe the command didn't work right
[05:58] <brophat> i got suspended and had to power down
[05:58] <brophat> i got stuck in a black screen
[05:59] <DaPenguin> brophat, try this sudo wpasupplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -i wlan0 -d and see what that outputs
[06:00] <DaPenguin> brophat , sorry, sudo wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -i wlan0 -d
[06:01] <brophat> yeah it said command not found bwahahah
[06:01] <sheena> night all. thanks for the attempted help everyone. i'll probably be back tomorrow.
[06:01] <DaPenguin> brophat, typos ftl lol
[06:02] <brophat> DaPenguin it said failed to read or parse configuration '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf'
[06:02] <brophat> Failed to add interface wlan0
[06:02] <DaPenguin> brophat, ok, so wpa_supplicant looks like it's not configured properly
[06:03] <joako> Is there some way to ensure nfs exports has 100% full permissions?
[06:03] <DaPenguin> brophat, you may need to do 'sudo apt-get purge wpasupplicant' and then 'sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant
[06:03] <brophat> DaPenguin i thin linux has a long way to go before it takes over windows bhahahaha
[06:04] <HRezaei> Hi. How to find where a program is installed?
[06:04] <jsoft> which cmd
[06:04] <HRezaei> how?
[06:04] <joako> I've put in my /etc/exports: /home/joako 172.21.11.238(rw,sync,no_root_squash) and I can mount it on another system but I get "Operation not permitted"  errors if I try to actually use it
[06:04] <DaPenguin> brophat, it's the lack of proper driver support is all it is
[06:04] <brophat> DaPenguin yes i know and that is a lot
[06:04] <brophat> DaPenguin i am using wep
[06:05] <brophat> so does it matter if that thing is not configured properly?
[06:05] <b3gott3n> i would like to be queued up for a simple question
[06:05] <DaPenguin> brophat, ugh, you do realize wep keys are a joke to crack, right?
[06:05] <jrib> b3gott3n: no queue, just ask
[06:06] <brophat> DaPenguin yeah i know i read that somewhere
[06:06] <jsoft> brophat: as in stupidly easy
[06:06] <b3gott3n> so i installed a local copy of diaspora in ubuntu
[06:06] <brophat> DaPenguin linux should be more like mac and just target small number of hardware
[06:06] <b3gott3n> and part of setting up the config is to:
[06:06] <jsoft> brophat: :\
[06:06] <b3gott3n> "Diaspora needs to know what host it's running on. Copy config/app_config.yml.example to config/app_config.yml, put your external url into the pod_url field, and make any other needed configuration changes."
[06:06] <brophat> jsoft yes i know like dumb easy like bafoon easy
[06:06] <jrib> b3gott3n: (on one line please)
[06:07] <DaPenguin> brophat, well, it's trying to connect via wpa is the issue
[06:07] <brophat> DaPenguin yeah i did try to change it to wpa
[06:07] <brophat> i thought i did change it to wps
[06:07] <brophat> so maybe something wacked out
[06:07] <nixjr> how do i change my primary display when using multiple monitors?
[06:07] <DaPenguin> brophat, it's possible
[06:08] <lament> why does my internet connection (wireless) drop when I kill X?
[06:08] <bonjoyee> lament: connecting using network-manager?
[06:08] <b3gott3n> sorry jrib.  I just want to know how ubuntu sets up urls
[06:08] <lament> bonjoyee: i suppose.
[06:08] <DaPenguin> lament, probably because it's all being controlled via gnome's network manager
[06:08] <lament> well then
[06:08] <izinucs> lament: network manager might be the culprit.. set a static IP manually getting rid of NM.
[06:09] <brophat> DaPenguin ok sorry i need to do what you said ok doing it now
[06:09] <bonjoyee> lament: then you have to use "available to all" for that connection...
[06:09] <dnivra> I am trying to set up my phone with Ubuntu 10.10 I click on the bluetooth applet, set up new device, next and Ubuntu detects my phone but is just unable to connect to it. It just says "Connection to <phone> failed.". What is possibly wrong? I did it earlier but deleted the devices from both the phone and the computer before trying again.
[06:09] <izinucs> lament: or set an alias in ~/.bash_aliases to switch from static ip manually configured to network manager when in gui
[06:09] <lament> ehh
[06:10] <DaPenguin> brophat, try this, it's a bit dated but should still work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo?highlight=%28wpa%29
[06:10] <lament> is there a command-line network manager?
[06:10] <jrib> b3gott3n: what aren't you sure about?  You seem to have pasted the instructions
[06:10] <jrib> lament: nmcli
[06:10] <DaPenguin> lament, ifconfig and iwconfig for wifi
[06:10] <lament> thanks
[06:11] <izinucs> lament: not really.. /etc/network/interfaces & /etc/hosts  along with what DaPenguin said
[06:11] <b3gott3n> jrib:  i don't know what the external url would be because i'm not running a web server
[06:11] <jrib> izinucs: see nmcli (there's also cnetworkmanager)
[06:11] <lament> i'm fine with a static ip really
[06:11] <brophat> DaPenguin i purged and reinstalled now i have back the wirless symbol but when i click on it it says network manager now running
[06:12] <izinucs> jrib: that's why I hang out here.. learn something every time :) thanks
[06:12] <DaPenguin> brophat, and no networks listed?
[06:12] <jrib> b3gott3n: in that case, ask #diaspora :)
[06:12] <brophat> DaPenguin correct
[06:12] <brophat> do i need to reboot or something?
[06:13] <DaPenguin> brophat, probably easiest, or at least restart network manager
[06:13] <brophat> how do i restart network manager
[06:14] <dnivra> brophat, "sudo service network-manager restart"
[06:14] <DaPenguin> brophat, log out and then back in should do it if i'm not mistaken
[06:14] <DaPenguin> brophat, or that lol
[06:14] <brophat> let me log out cuse i think you got something misspelled again hahaha
[06:14] <DaPenguin> brophat, again, my gui experience is somewhat limited, especially on the gnome side
[06:15] <brophat> yeah hold on will be right back
[06:15] <brophat> but i think you are onto something cause i got my wirless symbol back on network manager
[06:16] <Danielcg25> I'm running Ubuntu via a USB stick. I need to clone the two HDDs I have plugged in. How do I do this?
[06:17] <DaPenguin> Danielcg25, man dd
[06:17] <Danielcg25> ?
[06:17] <Danielcg25> (I'm a linux newbie)
[06:17] <bonjoyee> Danielcg25: http://clonezilla.org
[06:18] <DaPenguin> Danielcg25, dd is what you would use to clone the drives. typing man dd in a console gives you the manual page for it
[06:18] <DaPenguin> Danielcg25, or any other cli command for that matter
[06:19] <Danielcg25> bonjoyee: I tried that, but I don't know which one to get. There's i486, and i686, but I have a i386 Ubuntu that works... Idk which one would work. I have a Pentium D if that helps
[06:19] <Danielcg25> Would mounting both drives and Ctrl+C everything and then Ctrl+V on the other drive work?
[06:20] <bonjoyee> Danielcg25: i686..it doesnt matter really...as it copies at data block level..the os does not matter..
[06:20] <Danielcg25> Ok
[06:20] <quiescens> dd.. can be used if both drives are the same size, something like clonezilla is probably preferable
[06:21] <Danielcg25> One drive is 150 GB, and the other is 1TB
[06:21] <bonjoyee> Danielcg25: also dd copies the unused blocks as well...which i feel is inefficient..
[06:21] <Sakara> hey all, just installed ubuntu and now my previous Windows 7 install can't be booted. Its not in the list
[06:21] <Sakara> Windows 7 is still there ubuntu was installed on another drive
[06:22] <brophat> DaPenguin i am now offline
[06:22] <Danielcg25> Sakara: It's your Bootloader....
[06:22] <Sakara> yes I know
[06:22] <monkeyDk> if I type df, I see the folders sda1, and sda6 which are my partitons and it make sence, but why does linux list also /dev
[06:22] <Sakara> sudo grub-update doens't pick it up
[06:22] <brophat> network manager is not showing up and cannot connect to internet
[06:22] <quiescens> Danielcg25: if you are copying to the smaller drive, dd will possibly be incomplete, if you are copying to the larger drive, you won't neccesarily be able to use the additional space unless you edit your partitioning manually afterwards
[06:23] <DaPenguin> brophat, try network-manager & in a console
[06:23] <brophat> DaPenguin guess now it is time for you to start errasing my hard drive vwahahahaha
[06:23] <quiescens> Danielcg25: your best bet is probably to use clonezilla or something as bonjoyee suggested
[06:23] <brophat> ok
[06:23] <Danielcg25> Well, I tried Ctrl+Cing everything and it couldn't copy my virus software :(
[06:23] <DaPenguin> brophat, lol, that comes later :P
[06:23] <jrib> Sakara: can you mount the windows drive in ubuntu?
[06:23] <Sakara> yes
[06:23] <zhangfei> hello
[06:24] <brophat> DaPenguin after all you are the penguin
[06:24] <Sakara> jrib: Eveything is still there
[06:24] <monkeyDk> if I type df, I see the folders sda1, and sda6 which are my partitons and it make sence, but why does linux list also /dev /dev/shm, /var/run, /var/lock and /lib/init/rw ?
[06:24] <zhangfei> where are you
[06:24] <zhangfei> ?
[06:24] <Danielcg25> "There was an error copying the file into /media/Local Disk (C:)/Program Data/AVG 10/chjw.
[06:24] <WarWalker> hello world
[06:24] <DaPenguin> brophat, *DO NOT DO THIS* sudo rm -rf /*
[06:24] <brophat> DaPenguin it said network-manager can not be found
[06:25] <Danielcg25> Error opening file: Input/Output error
[06:25] <Linuxpwns> How do I change the volume icon on Ubuntu 10.10 to resemble the following image: http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/extra/LINUX/small/pulseaudiovolume-small_010.png I like don't like how the new one  acts. Is it possible to change it so it resembles the old style vertical bar?
[06:25] <Danielcg25> ;(
[06:25] <jrib> Sakara: ok.  In my case, grub-update could not find windows because a fuse bug prevented me from being able to mount the windows partition
[06:25] <brophat> DaPenguin ok will do
[06:25] <Sakara> :(
[06:25] <DaPenguin> brophat, no don't do that, that WILL erase your hdd!!
[06:25] <Sakara> I am using grub-pc grub-common packages, would they have notheing to do with it
[06:25] <brophat> DaPenguin i now
[06:25] <dnivra> !who | zhangfei
[06:26] <zhangfei> what is this?
[06:26] <brophat> there are some things i do know
[06:26] <DaPenguin> brophat, lol
[06:26] <red2kic> Linuxpwns: I don't remember -- but I think it's something like "gnome-media" -- Try using tab,tab.
[06:26] <dnivra> !support  | zhangfei
[06:26] <monkeyDk> can anyone help me please ?
[06:26] <dnivra> !ask | monkeyDk
[06:26] <jrib> !helpme | monkeyDk
[06:26] <red2kic> Linuxpwns: Try "gnome-volume-control"
[06:27] <brophat> it said the command network-manager can not be found
[06:27] <DaPenguin> brophat, try this 'sudo service network-manager start'
[06:27] <brophat> DaPenguin i did not do sudo before
[06:27] <brophat> maybe i should have done sudo
[06:27] <DaPenguin> brophat, no, it's a service, not an actual runable app
[06:28] <brophat> ok
[06:29] <monkeyDk> if I type df, I see the folders sda1, and sda6 which are my partitons and it make sence, but why does linux list also /dev /dev/shm, /var/run, /var/lock and /lib/init/rw ?
[06:29] <brophat> DaPenguin it said network-manager unrecognized service
[06:29] <Linuxpwns> red2kic, its already installed.
[06:29] <dnivra> monkeyDk, see man df. it says it reports disk space usage.
[06:30] <brophat> DaPenguin you do understan that i am offline with my ubuntu and i am using my mac right now
[06:30] <monkeyDk> dnivra: sure, but why does it list these folders as well ?
[06:30] <DaPenguin> brophat, yeah, i got that, try this 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[06:30] <red2kic> Linuxpwns: I'm not talking about the package. I can't remember but one of the commands will bring up the gnome-volume-control-applet that you want to use.
[06:31] <Linuxpwns> red2kic, look at the following image: http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/How-to-Replace-the-Volume-Control-in-Ubuntu-9-04-with-the-PulseAudio-One-2.jpg notice how when you want to change the volume its just a simple vertical bar...
[06:31] <Linuxpwns> Oh ok.
[06:32] <brophat> DaPenguin ok it took the command but i am still offline
[06:32] <dnivra> monkeyDk, because they are all mounted file systems.
[06:33] <DaPenguin> brophat, does ifconfig show any active interfaces?
[06:33] <dnivra> brophat, DaPenguin you could also try '/etc/init.d/network-manager restart' as root.
[06:33] <monkeyDk> dnivra: dont understand why they have to be mounted
[06:34] <red2kic> Linuxpwns: "gnome-volume-control-applet" ?
[06:34] <brophat> DaPenguin ifconfig only shows lo
[06:34] <dnivra> monkeyDk, I'm not familiar with the specifics sorry. you might want to read about it online or ask in ##linux. I could make only this much sense from the man page.
[06:35] <r0fs3ck5> Hi, has anyone had any experience getting a Leadtek DTV 1800 H going on ubuntu 10.04 amd64?
[06:35] <Linuxpwns> does not work in terminal or is missing?
[06:35] <jiltdil> brophat:may u please repeat your question
[06:35] <waitme> hello
[06:36] <DaPenguin> brophat, ok, you jiltdil he's trying to get wifi up and running
[06:36] <jiltdil> ok
[06:36] <DaPenguin> brophat, ok you should probably try a reboot or a dbus restart
[06:37] <zhangfei> ur5xcs (~ur5xcs@91.217.106.1) 加入了 #ubuntu
 brophat, ok you should probably try a reboot or a dbus restart
[06:37] <brophat> DaPenguin i did a reboot and that is when it came up without any network manager and offline
[06:37] <brophat> how do i do a dbus restart again?
[06:38] <DaPenguin> brophat, 'sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart'
[06:39] <jrib> brophat, DaPenguin: while it doesn't matter in this case, it's good practice to now use the « service » instead of calling the /etc/init.d directly.  So to restart dbus one would do « sudo service dbus restart »
[06:39] <brophat> DaPenguin ok same thing happened as last time i get stuck in black screen
[06:40] <brophat> yea i am stuck in black screan saying checkint battery state
[06:40] <DaPenguin> jrib, ok, i'll keep that in mind
[06:40] <brophat> and i am going to have to force  a power down
[06:40] <DaPenguin> brophat, ugh, ok
[06:42] <jiltdil> brophat:r u want to start wifi ?
[06:42] <jiltdil> brophat:or just want to up it
[06:43] <brophat> DaPenguin ok no network manager and no internet
[06:44] <DaPenguin> brophat, reinstalling wpasupplicant shouldn't have knocked out your networking completely.
[06:44] <brophat> ok maybe i should reinstall ubuntu hahaha
[06:44] <DaPenguin> brophat, there's something else going on here
[06:45] <brophat> yeah maybe someting we did yesterday to it
[06:45] <DaPenguin> brophat, it may be you need to boot the kernel with the noacpi option...
[06:46] <brophat> DaPenguin ok how do i do that bwahahahaha
[06:46] <intrader_> DaPenguin, when you have a chance; I am struggling with problem at boot - I get a terminal window that asks for login.
[06:46] <DaPenguin> intrader_, still having the same problem, huh?
[06:47] <Seven_Six_Two> how do I add a kernel parameter in 10.10?
[06:47] <jrib> !grub2 | Seven_Six_Two
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Seven_Six_Two: in /etc/default/grub   the default ones are: quiet splash
[06:47] <ruan> intrader_:  can you login and type "startx" ?
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> Seven_Six_Two: after you add the option in the quotes, save the file and then run: sudo update-grub
[06:48] <brophat> DaPenguin i think reinstalling ubuntu maybe a good idea
[06:48] <intrader_> DaPenguin, yes - I am unable to go back to previous version of kernel; I have tried synaptic uninstall of linux. It loops in synaptic never ending update.
[06:48] <DaPenguin> brophat, yeah, booting with noacpi involves editing the grub.cfg file
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: no it doesnt
[06:49] <brophat> Dapenguin ok will look into that
[06:49] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, is there another way to do it now?
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: add it in /etc/default/grub :)
[06:49] <Seven_Six_Two> oh dammit. jrib, ActionParsnip I looked at that file too...I did a google search! I don't know why I didn't see that. thanks
[06:49] <brophat> DaPenguin where is that file?
[06:49] <DaPenguin> brophat, hold on a sec
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: grub.cfg is generated, so changes made will be lost next time a kernel is added
[06:49] <ranjan> hi all i am going to try ubuntu cloud trial on amazon ec2 but i am not able to ssh :(
[06:49] <ranjan> any idea?
[06:49] <Seven_Six_Two> I keep getting a kernel Aieee!
[06:50] <intrader_> ruan, no it goes back to the terminal window
[06:50] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, ah, ok, gotcha, see where that needs to get changed
[06:50] <Seven_Six_Two> The only problem I can see from /var/logs/messages is when the clocksource is switched.
[06:50] <brophat> I think linux should be like mac in that it should pick a small set of hardware and write the code for that specific hardware
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: if you run:  head /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[06:51] <Seven_Six_Two> brophat, that's a horrible idea!
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: it even tells you to NOT edit tthe file ;)
[06:51] <brophat> ok seven just a thought
[06:51] <heyguise> Hey guys. I'm trying to map a joypad to keyboard commands. Any help?
[06:51] <intrader_> ruan, I have gone through that about 10 hrs ago.
[06:51] <brophat> but that way there will be no driver compat problems
[06:51] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, sorry, it's been a while since i rolled on a buntu variant
[06:51] <heyguise> sailorrreality is a spam bot btw
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: its cool bro
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> heyguise: yeah, dead annoying
[06:52] <RubenAlonzo> Greetings All
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> hi RubenAlonzo
[06:52] <ruan> hmm
[06:52] <Linuxpwns> heyguise: Install joy2key package in Synaptic
[06:52] <RubenAlonzo> darnit! that spam guy is still going huh? sailorrealty or something
[06:52] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, so what would you do, edit the /etc/defaults/grub file and then update-grub i'm assuming?
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> RubenAlonzo: yeah just put it on ignore
[06:53] <RubenAlonzo> ActionParsnip: thanks, will do
[06:53] <intrader_> ruan, thanks anyway. Latest thing I have tried is to uninstall the linux kernel I am having problems with.
[06:53] <Linuxpwns> heyguise: sudo apt-get install joy2key             in terminal if you wish
[06:53] <fnordfnord> This is a test message. Please ignore it. Love, your local channel operators.
[06:53] <mymeatinyourseat> heyguise, try xbcd or xpadder or pennicle
[06:53] <ruan> intrader_: have you tried regenerating xorg.conf
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: exactly, the default boot options are: quiet splash   you add the options in the quotes, then sudo update-grub will add the options in grub.cfg for your current kernels but it will also add it to subsequent kernels too :)
[06:54] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, kk, gotcha
[06:54] <fnordfnord> hrm, apparently I am not cool enough to get spam :|
[06:54] <RubenAlonzo> anyone running 11.04 narwhal? was just wondering about that unity bar that is a constant in mav meerkat on my left side of screen, if there will be option to auto hide it or something?
[06:54] <heyguise> okay i got it installed
[06:54] <heyguise> RubenAlonzo, i hate it too
[06:54] <intrader_> ruan, no - but as ActionParsnip says, it is regenerated.
[06:54] <rww> RubenAlonzo: #ubuntu+1 for natty discussion and support please
[06:54] <DaPenguin> ok brophat, here's what we do :)
[06:54] <b3gott3n> other channels got that spam as well
[06:54] <heyguise> RubenAlonzo, when your booting up before you type your password and what not select "Ubuntu classic" in the boot options at the bottom.
[06:54] <Lanlost> I'm using Ubuntu Studio. I have a strange problem that has afflicted me on this computer and I feel like on my last one too. On my old computer, I had much bigger flash performance issues. One video would be fine. Two tabs.. ok.., if I had more than three (I could have a million NON flash sites open) then.. my computer would basically be unusable
[06:55] <lament> any ops around?
[06:55] <rww> lament: hi
[06:55] <Lanlost> anyway, I'm not having that problem on this much better computer
[06:55] <DaPenguin> brophat, sudo nano /etc/defaults/grub
[06:55] <brophat> ok
[06:55] <Lanlost> my question is, my computer plays flash fine now. I can watch 720p, etc, fine.. multiple windows, 10 youtube windows, etc
[06:55] <RubenAlonzo> heyguise: thanks i will lookfor that option upon next boot
[06:55] <rww> lament: or in general, #ubuntu-ops
[06:55] <DaPenguin> brophat, look for the line that reads GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[06:56] <brophat> ok found it
[06:56] <Lanlost> The problem is.. the video will be playing fine.. then all of a sudden the video itself will freeze but the audio will continue.. then like 5 seconds later... the whole computer will lock up. It doesn't have time to grey out the window
[06:56] <Lanlost> then like 15 seconds later.. it will suddenly spring back to action.. the screen will come OUT of grey and everything will be fine. I never see it grey out though.. it's just:
[06:56] <DaPenguin> were going to add noacpi to the end of the options list, then ctrl-o to save the file then ctrl-x to exit
[06:57] <brophat> yeah i learned how to use nano last night
[06:57] <Lanlost> Playing video -> video stops but audio continues -> 5 seconds later BOTH stop (still color) -> 15 seconds later POPS back into action.. screen suddenly comes out of grey.
[06:57] <DaPenguin> brophat,  kk lol
[06:57] <Lanlost> Anyone ever had that issue?
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Lanlost: read dmesg with the watch command and see if it has any clues
[06:57] <Lanlost> ah
[06:57] <Linuxpwns> RubenAlonzo: There is the ability to auto hide in the 11.04 release with Unity i believe
[06:57] <brophat> but what options list?
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Lanlost: also try a different browser to isolate the issue
[06:57] <mymeatinyourseat> can anyone pm me and tell me how to run halo ce on ubuntu
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> !wine | mymeatinyourseat
[06:57] <DaPenguin> brophat, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash noacpi"
[06:58] <brophat> ok ic
[06:58] <Lanlost> Nothing in dmesg at all
[06:58] <Lanlost> in hours..
[06:58] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, flash video?
[06:58] <Lanlost> yes
[06:58] <RubenAlonzo> Linuxpwns: thanks! cant wait for final release, i finally got rid of windows completely on my little netbook
[06:58] <Lanlost> It's annoying because sometimes it won't happen for hours.. even though I have 10 tabs open.
[06:58] <brophat> DaPenguin ok done
[06:58] <ioria> where am i ?
[06:58] <brophat> now what
[06:59] <brophat> reboot?
[06:59] <DaPenguin> brophat, ok, now sudo update-grub
[06:59] <ioria> coooolllllll
[06:59] <nixjr> how do i set the primary display when using "separate x session" with multiple monitors?
[06:59] <mymeatinyourseat> thanks, ap, but every time I try n open wine or the halo cd, I always get that red like do not enter sign..??
[06:59] <brophat> DaPenguin ok done
[06:59] <brophat> nowwhat rebooot?
[06:59] <Lanlost> And then other times.. I have one tab open, one simple like 480p video and it will happen, and then it snaps back and then 10 seconds later it happens again. No hard drive thrashing.. usually it happens once and then I'm fine for that video. I don't get it.
[06:59] <DaPenguin> brophat, ok, now try and reboot
[06:59] <Lanlost> The main reason I'm asking now is because. it seems to be happening on every video. Maybe I'll record a video
[07:00] <RubenAlonzo> oh man, schumacher does not make it into Q3 final qualifying in melbourne just now
[07:00] <Linuxpwns> RubenAlonzo: Yep i've been looking at previews/reviews of 11.04 on youtube
[07:00] <Shuujin96> schumacher is still alive?
[07:00] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, yeah, i've been having that issue ever since the last flash update on some sites
[07:00] <johny_> I have installed ndiswrapper plus an appropriate wireless driver for my chip but wireless is still not working, someone please help
[07:00] <nixjr> how do i set the primary display when using "separate x session" with multiple monitors?
[07:01] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, or it might have something to do with firefox 4 and flash
[07:01] <brophat> DaPenguin still the same no network manager and still offline
[07:01] <RubenAlonzo> Linuxpwns: i saw a video of alpha 3 release, and indeed there seemed to be an option to autohide it or smart hide it in case of full window on another application, but it could still change, i am hoping they will keep it like that where we get the option to choose to hide it because my netbook has a 10.1 inch screen
[07:02] <DaPenguin> brophat, ok, something weird is going on here
[07:02] <brophat> your telling me bwahahaha
[07:02] <ioria> may i ask a question, please ?
[07:02] <DaPenguin> !ask
[07:02] <nixjr> how do i set the primary display when using "separate x session" with multiple monitors?
[07:02] <Lanlost> DaPenguin, I'm on FF3. You are having THAT issue though? To a tee?
[07:03] <Linuxpwns> RubenAlonzo: I agree. A keyboard shortcut/hotkey to only bring it up when you want would be nice as well don't you think?
[07:03] <RubenAlonzo> Linuxpwns: THAT option woild be ideal!
[07:03] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, depends, some sites do that (certain youtube videos) or they give me bad pixelization
[07:03] <RubenAlonzo> pardon my spelling
[07:03] <jiltdil> how to open .odp via termianl (open office)
[07:03] <Lanlost> It's hard to find anything on google becuase if you search for "flash video temporary freeze linux firefox" or any combination of any symptom.. you find much more serious issues like flash LOCKING UP firefox .. or resetting or whatever
[07:03] <Lanlost> I dont have pixelization
[07:03] <ruan> jiltdil: do you want to edit it via terminal or open openoffice with terminal?
[07:03] <Lanlost> anyway, I'll keep you posted if I seem to solve it. I added more ram recently and it had no effect.
[07:04] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, linux and flash have always been buggy together
[07:04] <RubenAlonzo> ioria: dont be afraid to ask please, just type your question, if someone knows they will steer you in the right direction
[07:04] <jiltdil> ruan: i have a .odp ready i want to open it from terminal to see it
[07:04] <johny_> I have installed ndiswrapper plus an appropriate wireless driver for my chip but wireless is still not working, someone please help
[07:04] <ioria> thanx. naturally i'm newbie. and my Movie Player does',t work, so i installed Xine and it works fine... i don't understand why ?
[07:04] <DaPenguin> ioria, you may need the gstreamer non-free plugins
[07:04] <nixjr> how do i set the primary monitor when using "separate x session" with multiple monitors?
[07:04] <brophat> Dapenguin what do yo think should i reinstall ubuntu?
[07:04] <Seven_Six_Two> I think my kernel panics were caused by cpu freq scaling, and the kernel switching clocksources...
[07:05] <DaPenguin> brophat, honestly, at this point i'd say go for it...lol
[07:05] <ioria> non-free ... with apt-get ?
[07:05] <brophat> ok hahaaha
[07:05] <ruan> jiltdil: run "openoffice.org file.odp"
[07:05] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, nvidia?
[07:05] <nixjr> Seven_Six_Two, yes
[07:06] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, there's a check box in nvidia-settings   but remember to run it as root so that it can write xorg.conf
[07:06] <jiltdil> ruan:thanx
[07:06] <jiltdil> ruan: and how to edit it via termainl
[07:06] <DaPenguin> !restricted | ioria
[07:06] <RubenAlonzo> brb
[07:07] <nixjr> Seven_Six_Two, in "twinview" there is a check box for primary, but i dont want 1 spanned desktop, i want separate ones, in "separate x session" there is not check box for primary
[07:07] <heyguise> grr, okay im working in joy2key. I have .joy2keyrc open. I'm trying to figure out how to map the button but this forum page is blowing my mind.
[07:07] <DaPenguin> ioria, ubuntu doesn't come with proprietary format support by default due to a couple different issues.
[07:07] <razz1> scp -vv -C -P 39999 crow@192.294.12.149:hardware.html  I am trying to copy a file from the remote system to my computer, this command is not working, what's wrong
[07:07] <ioria> sudo apt-get gstreamer non-free plugins ... this is the command ?
[07:07] <DaPenguin> ioria, honestly i just use vlc, never had any issues
[07:08] <jsoft> vlc ftw
[07:08] <DaPenguin> ioria, check out the link from ubottu, that should give you instructions for installing the necessary plugins
[07:08] <ioria> ok :_)
[07:08] <ioria> thanx
[07:08] <DaPenguin> ioria, np :)
[07:09] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, what do you suppose "primary" means with separate x screens?
[07:10] <ruan> jiltdil: im not sure, only if terminal has a way to read openoffice files
[07:10] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, really, with separate x screens, the only consideration is relative location.
[07:10] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, or absolute, if you're into that kind of thing. ;)
[07:10] <ruan> jiltdil: you can try "nano file" but it may not read properly
[07:11] <RubenAlonzo> is there a way to get Safari browser on ubuntu? if not what is the next closest thing to it please?
[07:11] <nixjr> Seven_Six_Two, i have 2 monitors, one connected with vga and one with dvi, on ym desk the dvi is tot he left and the vga to the right, when using "separate x session" the vga monitor ont he right is whjere my login prompt comes up, and the mouse spans from the right of the right monitor, into the left of the left monitor
[07:11] <jiltdil> ruan:is there any way to play video under the terminal not outside ?
[07:11] <nixjr> i want ti reversed
[07:11] <DaPenguin> RubenAlonzo, konq and safari share similar codebases if i remember correctly
[07:12] <Linuxpwns> RubenAlonzo: Download PlayOnLinux and once installed go to Internet section and download Safari
[07:12] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, drag and drop the monitor locations at the top of nvidia-setting?
[07:12] <jiltdil> ruan:nano is not reading odp
[07:12] <Seven_Six_Two> RubenAlonzo, I've read that safari uses the khtml engine, which is used in konqueror.
[07:12] <Lanlost> so at my job, for PCI compliance, I just found out that I need to have a virus scanner on ..all PCs, they consider this Windows AND Linux.
[07:12] <RubenAlonzo> DaPenguin: thanks i will that and also Linuxpwns' idea of playonlinux
[07:12] <Lanlost> But Macs don't need one.
[07:13] <jsoft> Lanlost: :\
[07:13] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, lol
[07:13] <heyguise> any one have an example config for joy2key for a sixaxis controller?
[07:13] <RubenAlonzo> Seven_Six_Two: thanks
[07:13] <Lanlost> yeah
[07:13] <RubenAlonzo> brb
[07:13] <Linuxpwns> ruben, its not perfect though its a bit buggy.... it might crash because of missing dependencies
[07:13] <jsoft> Lanlost: so what you going to do?
[07:14] <Lanlost> Don't you guys love it when you get one of those "VIRUS DETECTED" pop-ups that look like "My Computer" pops up when you're using Linux? =P
[07:14] <jsoft> Yeah :)
[07:14] <heyguise> ohh, okay i get it lets see
[07:14] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, lol, yeah, those are hilarious :P
[07:14] <red2kic> Lanlost: I'm going to make one for Ubuntu.
[07:14] <lament> i don't, that's why i got adblock
[07:14] <Lanlost> make one?
[07:14] <razz1> scp -vv -C -P 39999 crow@192.294.12.149:hardware.html  I am trying to copy a file from the remote system to my computer, this command is not working, what's wrong, the remote ip is 192.294.12.149. I can SSh, just the syntax is wrong. please help
[07:14] <ioria> bye
[07:14] <Lanlost> isn't there ClamAV for linux or something?
[07:15] <red2kic> razz1:...149:hardware.html is wrong.
[07:15] <Linuxpwns> heyguise: Sorry, I use my sixaxis controller for a PSX emulator to play gran turismo and driver
[07:15] <Seven_Six_Two> Lanlost, yes. you can install that
[07:15] <red2kic> Lanlost: No, I meant the adveristment.
[07:15] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, youd think they'd at least use alert("VIRUS DETECTED") or something like that lol
[07:15] <jsoft> Lanlost: yeah there is, but its pretty much for detecting windows viruses
[07:15] <Lanlost> I know there are linux virus scanners. I asked a guy at my work what he was going to do and he said he got one. I asked him what it does and he said it searches for viruses
[07:15] <slim_charles> Can anyone help me with something related to FTP/
[07:15] <slim_charles> ?
[07:15] <jsoft> Lanlost: clamav
[07:15] <red2kic> razz1: Use ...149:~/path/to/hardware.html
[07:15] <Lanlost> but really, there aren't any I know of in the wild obviously. Is it a .. virus database of what... all the viruses you can count on one hand?
[07:16] <Lanlost> I thought Macs were equally safe but from what I understand, this isn't necessarily true as of the last few years
[07:16] <heyguise> okay one last question i think i got it. Whats left click "Rclick" ?
[07:16] <red2kic> razz1: Maybe... 149:~/Desktop/hardware.html
[07:16] <heyguise> sorry "lclick"
[07:16] <razz1> red2kic: ok i want to copy the hardware.html file from the home dir. thats why I did not specify ~
[07:16] <heyguise> or?
[07:16] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, linux virus scanners primarily exist for sanitizing incoming email if you're using the box in a server capacity
[07:16] <Seven_Six_Two> There are something like 50 linux virus (none that do anything) and 50k windows virus
[07:16] <red2kic> razz1: Use ~/hardware.html then.
[07:16] <Lanlost> I guess that while Macs are inherently secure.. they pretty much know what set up you have.. or at least it's narrowed down and so they COULD take advantage of vulnerabilities
[07:16] <Lanlost> DaPengiun, makes sense
[07:16] <heyguise> macs are inheritly secure, kind of like prison.
[07:17] <jsoft> Lanlost: just put clamav on your linux stuff
[07:17] <Lanlost> I also mentioned that there are ones that will scan NTFS partitions and such for Windows viruses and people laughed at me
[07:17] <jsoft> and then you can say 'sure I have a virus scanner on the linux box'
[07:17] <Linuxpwns> Seven_Six_Two I beg to differ.
[07:17] <red2kic> Lanlost: Mac and antivirus and linux are useless as soon as you give the users the admin password.
[07:17] <razz1> red2kic: tried ~ does not work. It used to work,
[07:17] <Linuxpwns> There are nasty Linux viruses
[07:17] <red2kic> razz1: Paste the whole line.
[07:17] <Lanlost> but really.. that would be a GREAT tool IMO. Being able to boot a live cd for someone using Windows and getting a nice scan where NO windows files are loaded into memory or anything
[07:17] <Seven_Six_Two> there are as secure as the user putting in the password. same as linux
[07:18] <Seven_Six_Two> Linuxpwns, with what? there could easily be a virus for linux if a n00b installs it.
[07:18] <Lanlost> red2kic, that's why you avoid that when you can.
[07:18] <Lanlost> =)
[07:18] <ruan> jiltdil: VLC can play videos as ASCII in a terminal i believe
[07:18] <razz1> red2kic:  scp -vv -C -P 39999 crow@192.294.12.149:~hardware.html
[07:18] <Seven_Six_Two> Linuxpwns, oh I see. I thought you meant that the other way...
[07:18] <Lanlost> jsoft, I think I will just use clamav
[07:18] <Linuxpwns> my point exactly
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Lanlost: you can, just install clamav / clamtk in livecd and svan
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> *scan
[07:18] <DaPenguin> Linuxpwns, the problem with linux viruses is that they'd have to be installed with root perms to do anything lol
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> ruan: mplayer does it too
[07:18] <jsoft> Yeah I was once asked to install a virus scanner for linux by a PHB. Never did in the end
[07:19] <Linuxpwns> DaPenguin, true for most.
[07:19] <heyguise> any one know the keymap for left click is it "L_click" ?
[07:19] <red2kic> razz1: scp -vv -C -P 39999 ~/hardware.html crow@192.294.12.149
[07:19] <v_v> is there any virus ruuning on linux ?
[07:19] <toshiba> cant access my videos on line
[07:19] <ruan> v_v: no
[07:19] <slim_charles> can anyone tell me how to setup an ftp server
[07:19] <juk> DaPenguin: no people just love linux
[07:19] <slim_charles> so i can view it from bmy website, when im not home?
[07:19] <v_v> ruan: so they  are all for windows files ?
[07:19] <razz1> red2kic: no I want to copy from remote system, not to
[07:19] <ruan> v_v: viruses are made for windows
[07:20] <ruan> v_v: for a virus to work in linux, you'd have to give it full permission to ruin your computer
[07:20] <red2kic> razz1: scp -vv -C -P 39999 crow@192.294.12.149:~/hardware.html
[07:20] <heyguise> *nix doesnt really need virus's. The users do a good enough job breaking it them selves
[07:20] <slim_charles> if u have wine
[07:20] <slim_charles> u could get windows viruses
[07:20] <v_v> :P
[07:20] <juk> heyguise: :D
[07:20] <v_v> funny
[07:20] <Lanlost> You know, now that I think about it. It probably IS good to have a virus scanner at my job (webhosting), even on Linux.
[07:20] <jsoft> You could in theory exploit something as a normal user and insert some virus that way
[07:20] <DaPenguin> slim_charles, and your entire .wine folder would be in jeopardy lol
[07:20] <ruan> lol
[07:20] <razz1> got it
[07:20] <Lanlost> Even if it is just scanning your email, it could stop you from sending it to someone who is using Windows by forwarding mail or something.. infecting them and so on.
[07:21] <red2kic> razz1: Great.
[07:21] <Lanlost> compromising your network and then some.
[07:21] <red2kic> Compromising the Internet.
[07:21] <slim_charles> DaPenguin, uhm is wine sandboxed? im sure u  can access filesystem
[07:21] <slim_charles> so i dont know about that
[07:21] <ruan> what if they're all linux users? :D
[07:21] <Lanlost> I think that's already happened ;-)
[07:21] <Lanlost> Ruan, is that directed at me?
[07:21] <Seven_Six_Two> wine is sandboxed
[07:21] <DaPenguin> slim_charles, i'm pretty sure wine is in fact sandboxed
[07:22] <ruan> well, everyone in the conversation
[07:22] <heyguise> does any one know the keymap for a left click? some one must
[07:22] <Lanlost> I was told I can run linux if I don't modify the hardware... I think they thought that would stop me somehow. So I just installed it to a decently sized USB stick. Voila.
[07:22] <Lanlost> Hurray for loopholes...
[07:22] <razz1> red2kic:  sorry about the confusion, I got the hardware file, i could not get the .x11vncrc file, it would not copy to my ~ had to copy it to desktop
[07:22] <slim_charles> DaPenguin, doesn wine run as current user
[07:22] <jsoft> Lanlost: 'modify' ?
[07:23] <slim_charles> so it does have access to home directory
[07:23] <sunjun> hi
[07:23] <red2kic> razz1: Are you on local network?
[07:23] <jsoft> sunjun: oh, hai
[07:23] <Lanlost> The computers are supplied to us and they consider partitioning modification
[07:23] <DaPenguin> slim_charles, no, just the filesystem in the .wine directory
[07:23] <Seven_Six_Two> slim_charles, iirc, wine is sandboxed. sort of like a chroot
[07:23] <red2kic> razz1: 192* I think so. Use Places --> Connect To Server.
[07:23] <Lanlost> I would assume. I probably shouldn't have mentioned I would have to partition the drive. Sounds scary to management possibly.
[07:23] <slim_charles> i see
[07:23] <DaPenguin> slim_charles, try running winefile and see if you can browse out to ~
[07:23] <razz1> red2kic: some on local, some on the net.
[07:24] <Lanlost> But really, they should WANT us to use Linux if we can. I would think so at least. I think the main thing is that we are going to be implementing Active Directory.
[07:24] <Seven_Six_Two> I've had quite a few windows viruses actually. in .wine
[07:24] <slim_charles> DaPenguin, well i have run WinRAR before and im sure i was xtracting stuff under the home directory
[07:24] <Lanlost> I feel like such a noob when it comes to stuff like active directory. Then again, I've never had to use it or anything so I guess it's alright.
[07:24] <razz1> red2kic: I had to replace the .x11vncrc file on my system. it just would not copy to the ~ but copy to Desktop
[07:24] <ruan> why winrar if you have p7zip?
[07:24] <red2kic> razz1: Okay. Use Places --> Connect To Server --> SSH.
[07:24] <Linuxpwns> DaPenguin: I read somewhere or saw a video i can't remember what the guy did, but he demonstrated its possible to screw up your Linux box if you honestly have no idea what you are doing. What happens is the unexperienced Linux user downloads a ".desktop" file thinking its an image or document, instead it installs a nasty piece of malware that forks a daemon process that goes through and data mines the Firefox .sqlite  finds what i
[07:24] <Linuxpwns> t wants and routes the appropiate information to the attacker...
[07:24] <red2kic> razz1: Perhaps the file exist.
[07:24] <toshiba> i cant upload any video website except youtube any answers
[07:25] <Lanlost> Linuxpwns, that's DEFINITELY possible. That's also definitely user error.
[07:25] <DaPenguin> Linuxpwns, ok, i guess that could be a possibility
[07:25] <Seven_Six_Two> Linuxpwns, again, that's only for one user. not the box
[07:25] <razz1> red2kic: no the file does not exist. i am sure. it might me  the way scp works. its a . file
[07:25] <heyguise> does any one know the keymap for a left click? some one must. is it "L_click" ?
[07:25] <red2kic> razz1: Well if it went to Desktop, I'm sure you can just mv it.
[07:26] <razz1> yes
[07:26] <razz1> red2kic: thanks, back to work
[07:26] <DaPenguin> Linuxpwns, the advantage tho is that the average nix user is smart enough not to do something that dumb....hopefully....lol
[07:26] <Linuxpwns> True, but it goes to show not all infections need root access to do damage
[07:26] <heyguise> okay i can use xev to figure it out
[07:27] <ruan> they can damage your /home/ dir if you havent backed it up
[07:27] <ruan> but they still need to be marked as executable, etc
[07:27] <Lanlost> You know, we have people all the time whos sites get hacked and they blame it on us, as you can possibly imagine. Then it turns out that their password was horrific. I always thought it was a myth that people used such bad passwords.
[07:27] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, i know for a fact that people use horrible passwords
[07:27] <Lanlost> And then these days people finally start to make it more complex.. but that's due to other websites complaining.. so they do the tried and true Word01 instead of just 'word'
[07:27] <red2kic> It is a myth that people always brush their teeth.
[07:27] <allu2> Linuxpwns: there isn't a system where user isn't vulnerability :P it would require blocking user to make "secure" system
[07:27] <Lanlost> DaPenguin, I'm sure you've seen that then.
[07:28] <ruan> block the user out, megaAI
[07:28] <Lanlost> Beatles1
[07:28] <Linuxpwns> haha true allu2
[07:28] <Linuxpwns> But in the case of this example I saw ...this nasty piece of malware reconfigured the guys gnome menu
[07:28] <Lanlost> I would say at least it's better than 'beatles' but.. really.. I would think that most people trying to crack password would compensate that.
[07:28] <Lanlost> This job is one of those that you really get to see things from the other perspective.
[07:29] <jiltdil> ruan: what is the command to play video in terminal
[07:29] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, at my work when people first get hired there accounts are all set to default passwords that they have to change. you would be amazed at how many people just tack a 1 at the end or something
[07:29] <Linuxpwns> And if the user was to ever use a program which requires root access (for example synaptic) he would also be giving the malware root access, thus doing system wide dmaage
[07:29] <rypervenche> I ran a bash script using the "Run" option instead of "Run in terminal", but it needs sudo powers. Will it be running in the background forever until I restart my computer?
[07:30] <mycosys> do you guys know what do-release-upgrade does that synaptic wont? pretty sure do-release-upgrade will break my install in a nasty way... I have a number of repos enabled on jaunty that are a fair way ahead of what is standard on karmic ie mythbuntu weekly builds lol, and winswitch, and deluge, and medibuntu. I have synaptic doing download only atm - so that when it finishes i can chose one or the other. normally use apt-get but synaptic is better at b
[07:30] <red2kic> jiltdil: Point your mouse to the Fluffy-Dinosaurs.avi and double-click. Otherwise, use "vlc Fluffy-Dinosaurs.avi"
[07:30] <Lanlost> I like to try to explain it like "If we were a company that provided storage units, of course we have to do our job to make sure the area is secure.. but if you give someone/lose your key we can't really be responsible if someone 'breaks in.' We WILL try to lock it though if we do happen to come across it."
[07:30] <allu2> Linuxpwns: but as i said, if we block user from doing anything i think linux is quite secure system ;)
[07:30] <Linuxpwns> True, but the boss will complain of lack of productivity :(
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> rypervenche: no just kill its PID when you want it to stop
[07:30] <mycosys> allu2 - linux on power is good for that lol
[07:30] <Lanlost> rypervenche, have you tried running 'top' to see if it's running? It probably ran and closed. Also, try "killall <command/program name>"
[07:31] <rypervenche> ActionParsnip: How can I find it? I couldn't see it in the top of top.
[07:31] <Linuxpwns> Has anyone heard of "Pwn2Own?"
[07:31] <allu2> Linuxpwns: yeah thats a problem :P maybe chroot can help us :P
[07:31] <Lanlost> If you have the wrong command it will say "Program: no process found." Or that could mean it literally just didn't run
[07:31] <Lanlost> Linux_Time, YES! The same guy I was talking about at work mentioned that to me
[07:31] <jiltdil> rypervence:set higher priority nice value to see in the top of top
[07:31] <Lanlost> Er, Linux_Time is supposed to be Linuxpwns
[07:31] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, usually what I do for my passwords is take a favoride phrase or quote of mine and hash it :P
[07:31] <Linuxpwns> Yeah ahha
[07:32] <mycosys> i presume upgrading from jaunty to karmic is still supported? have to do it to get to lucid
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> rypervenche: ps -ef | grep foo   change foo to part of the script name
[07:32] <Linuxpwns> Linux was never hacked in that contest.
[07:32] <Lanlost> DaPengiun, yes. Isn't that what happens with user passwords anymore by default?
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> !eol | mycosys
[07:32] <Lanlost> As in, inside the passwords file thingy
[07:32] <Linuxpwns> The first OS to get hacked in every year of that contest has been a Mac surprisngly
[07:32] <Linuxpwns> In 2008 a mac laptop was hacked in 5 seconds, and in 2009 in 2 minutes.
[07:32] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, the actual password gets hashed, but the actual cleartext version of my passwords are hashes themselves :P
[07:33] <Lanlost> What version of Ubuntu are we on these days btw? I don't know what the current version is. I'm using Ubuntu Studio, the most recent version I believe.
[07:33] <Linuxpwns> Don't tell mac fanboys that haha
[07:33] <red2kic> Linuxpwns: Also, the most easiest OS to recover files from.
[07:33] <Lanlost> It, like any other distro, has it's annoyances but in general has been pretty rock solid.
[07:33] <red2kic> Lanlost: 10.10 -- 11.04 next month.
[07:33] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, 10.10
[07:33] <toshiba> my fire fox browser is not working correctly for video websites anyone got a answer
[07:33] <Linuxpwns> Macintosh has since patched the vulnerabilit
[07:33] <Wolfsherz> toshiba, define "not working correctly"...
[07:33] <Linuxpwns> red2kic, what os is that?
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> Lanlost: latest stable is maverick 10.10 next month natty is unleashed 11.04
[07:34] <Lanlost> I'm using it for a a ridiculous reason too. While I used to do audio recording/editing.. I'm using it SPECIFICALLY because, my old TV's speakers broke. So I routed the AUDIO only to my soundcards mic-in. The TV was on my desk with my PC so it worked out fine.
[07:34] <Linuxpwns> I use clonezilla for imaging my computer and regular backups on my 4TB enclosure
[07:34] <red2kic> Linuxpwns: Mac.
[07:35] <Lanlost> The problem was .. the cable was mono on one end and stereo on the other. So.. all my sound came out of my left speaker. This was annoying but REALLY annoying when using headphones. I used jack to mirror the sound from left channel to right.
[07:35] <mycosys> actionparsnip - alredy read the upgrade guide
[07:35] <DaPenguin> nix is inherently more secure as it was designed from the ground up as a multi-user system
[07:35] <mycosys> just wanted some1 to answer my question
[07:35] <mycosys> do you guys know what do-release-upgrade does that synaptic wont? pretty sure do-release-upgrade will break my install in a nasty way... I have a number of repos enabled on jaunty that are a fair way ahead of what is standard on karmic ie mythbuntu weekly builds lol, and winswitch, and deluge, and medibuntu. I have synaptic doing download only atm - so that when it finishes i can chose one or the other. normally use apt-get but synaptic is better at b
[07:35] <ruan> mac has viruses too
[07:35] <Lanlost> The problem was.. Jack had issues with latency, I fixed this.. but then it had issues starting up. I found out about real time kernels.. tried to enable/patch it on mine.. then just installed Ubuntu Studio
[07:36] <mycosys> surely you knew this a few months ago actionparsnip
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> mycosys: cool. Personally i'd clean install at least lucid, upgrading twice will take a while
[07:36] <Lanlost> The weird thing is.. I get the same result with Ubuntu Studio and it's real time kernel. I swear preformance can be worse overall. With Jack though.. I get this REALLY strange problem. If I started it with RTK support then.. it would run .. but then crash and subsequently the entire system went NUTS.
[07:36] <mycosys> not worried about time
[07:36] <rypervenche> I have a bunch of bash scripts in my home folder, and when I 'ls' my home folder most of the script files have tildas after their names. Some even have a normal copy and one with a tilda after it. I edited them with vim recently. Why do I have these copies? I do not see them when I look at the folder in nautilus...
[07:36] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, my only real issue with ubuntu is how it does the kernel, and the way it handles root access
[07:36] <mycosys> bandwidth from au servers is free too
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> mycosys: knew what?
[07:36] <mycosys> just want to not break my system
[07:37] <Lanlost> Programs would just start immediately crashing to the point where anytime I opened something it IMMEDIATELY crashed. Then my gnome bars would disappear. Eventually nothing except the calculator would be running
[07:37] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, both of which can be corrected :P
[07:37] <mycosys> the difference between do-release-upgrade, and updating the repos and using dist-upgrade
[07:37] <jrmcm> How do you add repos through synaptic?
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> mycosys: what is "this"?
[07:37] <Lanlost> In general though, with this real time kernel, preformance seems to be worse in general. I get the 'greying out' (I think a feature of compiz) happened quite frequently at first
[07:37] <Linuxpwns> DaPenguin, one of the reasons I attribute to Linux's security barrier is the fact its open source...   open code means it is seen by "many eyes" ... if a bad guy (black hat) finds a vulnerability, so can a good guy (white hat) patch the vulnerability...
[07:38] <toshiba> yes
[07:38] <mycosys> actionparsnip the difference between do-release-upgrade, and updating the repos and using dist-upgrade
[07:38] <mycosys> i have all the repops updated, and synaptic is doing download only as we speak
[07:39] <Lanlost> For a long time I only had a gig of ram, but like 128mb of that was being used by onboard video. Programs would grey out all the time,
[07:39] <mycosys> if i must i can use do-release-upgrade but it will dsable several repos it seems that are already past what karmic had, necessitating uninstalling a lot of stuff
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> Jrmcm:copy the ppa address and add that. You can do it in cli with: sudo add-apt-repository address  saves having to dig around in a gui
[07:39] <DaPenguin> Linuxpwns, and you don't have to wait for a corporate security team to come out with a patch either :)
[07:39] <Lanlost> Then, I got more ram.. and it still happens but much less frequently. The only time it happens semi-frequently is with YouTube, and like I Said.. I never see it grey until it snaps back
[07:40] <Linuxpwns> Good point
[07:40] <mycosys> shold have stayed on 8.04 lol
[07:40] <Lanlost> It's like programs take control of the entire system and it all greys out except that program. You know, now that I think of it.. I wonder if that IS at least PARTIALLY to blame for my flash video issues
[07:40] <Linuxpwns> DaPenguin I gotta admit I'm a big fan of windows server 2008 though...
[07:40] <jrmcm> ActionParsnip: thx, synaptic wouldnt let me open the repos menu
[07:40] <eamon> what's the diference between ubuntu and linux mint?
[07:41] <Lanlost> I love(d) Mint
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> mycosys: yes I know why its different and such but that link details the supported way to get the next release if you are eol
[07:41] <DaPenguin> Linuxpwns, and i attribute the better security to the fact that ms actually has some competition :)
[07:41] <Lanlost> It's probably even better now. I don't know how I found it but I used it at the "Bea" version the first time.. which pretty much WAS Ubuntu with a different (And better) skin
[07:41] <mycosys> would it kill you to explain actionparsnip?
[07:41] <Lanlost> Eamon, last time I used Mint was probably two years ago. I think it's almost it's own distro these days.
[07:41] <mycosys> happy to have you pm
[07:42] <Seven_Six_Two> performance isn't worse with rt, it's just scheduled differently. and one of the reasons it often fails is that closed source drivers don't allow the kernel to do *all of the scheduling, which causes problems
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Jrmcm: i always use the cli, less messing around
[07:42] <Linuxpwns> mintnanny, mintupdate, mintmenu (the best feature), mintbackup, mintassisstant mostly
[07:42] <red2kic> eamon: Ubuntu is a supported derivative of Debian. Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu.
[07:42] <mycosys> have neen kickin it with linux and beofre it with sV for 20 years now
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> mycosys: explain what?
[07:42] <Lanlost> But basically, it's sort of like Ubuntu++ for desktop users. They add it's own 'start menu' type thing. It's got it's own applicaton manager. A few other Mint specific things that go on top of Ubuntu.
[07:42] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, yeah, i'm more comfortable with using a cli than digging through menus to find stuff
[07:42] <Seven_Six_Two> using proprietary nvidia, ati drivers etc is bad with rt kernel
[07:42] <rww> Ubuntu is not a supported derivative of Debian :\
[07:42] <Linuxpwns> I have love for Windows though.
[07:42] <mycosys> what apt-get dist-upgrade wont do i suppose
[07:42] <red2kic> Ubuntu++? Oh you jest.
[07:42] <rww> well, it's supported here I guess. but not by Debian ;P
[07:42] <Lanlost> My Mint was rock solid and the first distro that I ever felt ANYONE could use. The problem I always had with it is that it ALWAYS eventually broke when I would upgrade it
[07:43] <jrmcm> ActionParsnip: yeah im just learning cli, ive only been running ubuntu for a few months
[07:43] <eamon> Lanlost: sounds like ubuntu to me
[07:43] <Lanlost> Anyone use Kegs, the Apple IIGS Emulator?
[07:43] <mycosys> actionparsnip - as i said, the core of my system, mythtv, is already past what was released on karmic
[07:43] <Lanlost> eamon, in what way? the upgrading problem?
[07:43] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, mint is an ubuntu derivitave designed to be even more user friendly than ubuntu
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: gui is nice for new users but the nature of irc lends itself to cli support
[07:43] <Lanlost> DaPenguin, yes. Isn't that basically what I said?
[07:43] <Seven_Six_Two> Lanlost, I had an Apple IIgs!! after my Apple II+
[07:43] <eamon> Lanlost: yeah
[07:43] <mycosys> i NEED the mythbuntu ppas
[07:43] <user-4> ae
[07:44] <jrmcm> I just installed K/ubuntu to a usb drive, and when i boot from it the system doesnt recognize my wireless or wired connections.
[07:44] <red2kic> "If you have problem with Mint, please don't come here"
[07:44] <red2kic> That advice never worked. :\
[07:44] <user-4> ae
[07:44] <Linuxpwns> You can install the mint menu in Ubuntu. Then bam, Ubuntu + 1 baby
[07:44] <Seven_Six_Two> red2kic, any kind of mint, or just peppermint?
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> !ppa
[07:44] <Lanlost> Seven_Six_Two, I realize this is offtopic for this channel, I just wanted to mention that Kegs is an emulator. It's had fullscreen support for Macs but not for Windows or Linux. There is an SDL version that has fullscreen, but it was last updated in 2005. Anyway, I hacked in fullscreen support if anyone wants it.
[07:44] <red2kic> !mint | Seven_Six_Two
[07:44] <mycosys> gawd
[07:44] <red2kic> Seven_Six_Two: Anything that isn't Ubuntu.
[07:45] <Lanlost> Ok, back on topic.
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Linuxpwns: ubuntu + guake = bam!
[07:45] <red2kic> ActionParsnip: tilda? :)
[07:45] <xanax`> hello
[07:45] <mycosys> actionparsnip - i guess what i am askin is a way to upgrade WITHOUT disabling my ppas
[07:45] <Seven_Six_Two> Lanlost, have you posted it anywhere? I'd like to see it. I still have books of basic game code that I spent hours typing when I was younger
[07:45] <mycosys> as i said - they are the core of the system
[07:46] <Seven_Six_Two> my cat is not ubuntu. I guess we won't discuss how she smells.
[07:46] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, and sudo lshw -C networking | pastebinit is so much easier and faster than opening up a gui hardware manager and hand pasting it lol
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> red2kic: same difference so also bam :-)
[07:46] <red2kic> BLAM!
[07:46] <xanax`> I am new to linux and I would like gnome to have a bigger screen resolution. It's stuck at 1024x768 but I would like 1680x1050. I have a radeon HD 4800
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> mycosys: not sure there dude, sorry
[07:47] <red2kic> xanax`: That depends on your native monitor resolution. What can it handle in first place?
[07:47] <mycosys> apt-get dist-upgrade wont do it?
[07:47] <xanax`> yes it can
[07:47] <DaPenguin> xanax`, you may need to install fglrx
[07:47] <xanax`> ok, I am going to install it.
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: pipe it to xclip and you have gold ;)
[07:47] <rypervenche> I have a bunch of bash scripts in my home folder, and when I 'ls' my home folder most of the script files have tildas after their names. Some even have a normal copy and one with a tilda after it. I edited them with vim recently. Why do I have these copies? I do not see them when I look at the folder in nautilus...
[07:47] <red2kic> xanax`: Check Additional Drivers under System.
[07:47] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, lol
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: i'm that lazy
[07:48] <jrmcm> I just installed K/ubuntu to a usb drive, and when i boot from it the system doesnt recognize my wireless or wired connections.
[07:48] <DaPenguin> lol
[07:49] <Linuxpwns> Seven_Six_Two, in  a little under 3 days, we will be "762" hours away from Ubuntu 11.04 release! :P
[07:49] <jiltdil> using mplayer to play my video that is in dvd doenot works i used this  mplayer -cdrom-device /dev/sr0 cdda://      the output is http://img696.imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img696/5613/screenshot1pi.png
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> jrmcm: run: sudo lshw -C network   use the product line to find guides
[07:49] <xanax`> It seems I already have the proprietary FGLRX ATI/AMD driver
[07:49] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, i actually forgot you could pipe to xclip lol
[07:49] <Linuxpwns> !42
[07:49] <Linuxpwns> YAY its smart
[07:50] <mycosys> :'(
[07:50] <DaPenguin> ok, so ubottu gets to live today it looks like :)
[07:50] <jiltdil>  using mplayer to play my video that is in dvd doenot works i used this  mplayer -cdrom-device /dev/sr0 cdda://      the output is   http://img696.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1pi.png/
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: why copy manually when the OS can do it for you ;-)
[07:50] <jrmcm> ActionParsnip: Thx again
[07:50] <Linuxpwns> +1 to anybody who knows whats thats from
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> jrmcm: np duder
[07:51] <xanax`> does anyone know how to add a screen resolution ?
[07:51] <jrmcm> lol
[07:51] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, lol, i think i've found my new favorite pipe :)
[07:51] <rubydude> ubuntu is for douches
[07:52] <rubydude> RubyOS roxorz
[07:52] <rubydude> it's 1337
[07:52] <jamesone> why are notifications SO ANNOYING, you can't close them or anything
[07:52] <Danielcg25> rubydude: Seriously? Stop trolling....
[07:52] <rubydude> and ubuntu ain't
[07:52] <vish> !launguage | rubydude
[07:52] <Seven_Six_Two> jiltdil, why cdda://  ?  that's cd digital audio, no? make sure restricted extras is installed, and you shouldn't need that last bit
[07:52] <rubydude> Danielcg25: I'm not trolling
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> Linuxpwns: to understand the answer you must first understand the question
[07:52] <rubydude> I'm serious
[07:52] <vish> !language | rubydude
[07:52] <rubydude> oooooooh whip out your boooooot
[07:52] <jamesone> I don't see rubydude doing anything wrong.
[07:52] <rubydude> I'm so scared
[07:52] <Danielcg25> What's the program for cloning HDDs?
[07:53] <jamesone> Anyways any way to close notifictions?
[07:53] <jamesone> Change them to gnome's superior default at least.. or is this annoying fadeout notifiction Gnome's idea?
[07:53] <rubydude> I'm shaking in my boots
[07:53] <vish> jamesone: " <rubydude> ubuntu is for douches " not acceptable here
[07:53] <jamesone> Did he come here just to say that or did he come here and have that sudden realization
[07:53] <litropy> why is my /etc/xorg.conf empty? Since I currently have an hdtv connected via VGA and displaying at a different resolution than my lappy's screen, the settings must be somewhere ...
[07:54] <vish> rubydude: if you have any support problems just ask, but take your trolling elsewhere
[07:54] <rubydude> litropy: just use Windows
[07:54] <rubydude> so you don't have to deal with that idiocy
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> Danielcg25: partimage or dd will do it (ntfs support is weird but pure Linux will be fine)
[07:54] <vish> !ops | rubydude is troll baiting
[07:54] <tsimpson> ummk
[07:54] <Linuxpwns> !What is the answer to life, the universe and everything?
[07:54] <raven> where is the offtopic channel?
[07:54] <red2kic> raven: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:54] <Linuxpwns> whoops
[07:55] <DaPenguin> Linuxpwns, and anyone who doesn't know where that quote comes from can just /leave :P
[07:55] <litropy> I just want to make sure I'm editing the right file
[07:55] <tsimpson> cs mode -q *!*@adsl-76-254-59-240.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net
[07:55] <Linuxpwns> hahah ture dapenguin
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> litropy: the OS doesn't ship with xorg.conf but if one is there it will be used
[07:55] <Danielcg25> DaPenguin: It comes from....you? =P
[07:55] <DirtyDawg> Linuxpwns: 42
[07:55] <litropy> ActionParsnip, thank you
[07:56] <jrmcm> Linuxpwns: and the answer is 47
[07:56] <jsoft> 42 acatually
[07:56] <Linuxpwns> Of course the greatest show of all time is Stargate SG-1
[07:56] <mycosys> sg1????????????????////
[07:56] <jrmcm> bah
[07:56] <tsimpson> !offtopic
[07:56] <mycosys> even universe is better
[07:56] <jrmcm> lol oops sorry all
[07:56] <Linuxpwns> Universe was a pos
[07:57] <Seven_Six_Two> rubydude, what's the alternative? ROS isn't an OS. it's a bad website that pitches ROS poorly.
[07:57] <DaPenguin> Seven_Six_Two, a bit late buddy lol
[07:57] <Linuxpwns> The thing that killed SG1 was Richard Dean Anderson's depature. Losing a guy as great as RDA will hurt you.
[07:57] <Seven_Six_Two> aaw...
[07:58] <Seven_Six_Two> DaPenguin, I was so proud, too...  <hangs head in shame>
[07:58] <DaPenguin> Seven_Six_Two, lol
[07:58] <tsimpson> Linuxpwns: go talk about it in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[07:59] <Danielcg25> Can I clone my entire HDD, partitions and everything?
[07:59] <Seven_Six_Two> Danielcg25, if you want to
[07:59] <Danielcg25> Windows 7 makes some 100MB partition. Not sure what it's for but Windows doesn't work without it
[07:59] <jrmcm> Is anyone here using or a fan of solid state HD
[07:59] <Danielcg25> And I bought a new 1TB drive
[08:00] <Linuxpwns> daniel, its the built-in recovery enviornment that allows you to recover your computer using a system image you made (if you made it)
[08:00] <lars_bauer> got errors when i try to update " http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404  Not Found"
[08:00] <Danielcg25> Linuxpwns: Thanks
[08:00] <Seven_Six_Two> Danielcg25, it could be where it hides all of your private info that it collected. or maybe for a page file?
[08:00] <Danielcg25> lol
[08:01] <Linuxpwns> Daniel, if you ever hit F8 before 7 booted and you seen the "Repair your computer" link... its booted into that 100mb part of your partition
[08:02] <Seven_Six_Two> Danielcg25, if you want to clone, use dd
[08:02] <chetan_> hi all
[08:02] <lars_bauer> #join ubuntu.dk
[08:02] <DirtyDawg>  dd?
[08:02] <jrmcm> What is the syntax for updating the grub menu from the cli
[08:02] <Seven_Six_Two> DirtyDawg, not you! the dd utility
[08:03] <DirtyDawg> yeah lol, i wondered what it was
[08:03] <Linuxpwns> Seven_Six_Two: I use clonezilla are dd and cz similar?
[08:03] <chetan_> Danielcg25: i m using ubuntu 9.10, not getting command for listing contents in root login
[08:03] <DaPenguin> lars_bauer,  its actually /join #channel name
[08:03] <Seven_Six_Two> Linuxpwns, not sure. probably not. dd is just a byte copy utility. very powerful, not at all automated
[08:04] <jrmcm> What is the syntax for updating the grub menu from the cli. I recently removed a few old headers, but they still show on the boot menu.
[08:04] <rypervenche> How can I have some text display and wait for the person to press enter (or any key) before moving on?
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> Jrmcm: sudo update-grub
[08:04] <chetan_>  i m using ubuntu 9.10, not getting command for listing contents in root login
[08:05] <Seven_Six_Two> Linuxpwns, dd can do a lot of things besides backing up and cloning. I used it just today to copy an exact number of bytes from a dvd piped in to md5sum to ensure an iso burned properly
[08:05] <jrmcm> Action: thx yet again, lol i tried every other way of putting it,
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> rypervenche: i believe it's: read
[08:05] <Linuxpwns> Nice
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> rypervenche: you can also use it to get input: INPUTNAME=read   do a quick websearch to verify ;-)
[08:07] <rypervenche> ActionParsnip: Ok, thank you.
[08:08] <jrmcm> ActionParsnip: Its still showing 2.6.32-27 32-28 and 32-29. I'm pretty sure I removed them via synaptic. Suggestions?
[08:09] <Seven_Six_Two> jrmcm, headers don't show in grub
[08:09] <Seven_Six_Two> jrmcm, headers are used to compile kernel modules. the kernel is what grub lists, and removing one should cause grub to update automagically
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> jrmcm: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.32-27-generic
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> jrmcm: and so on. Update grub will be done automagically
[08:11] <Linuxpwns> Grub.... YOU GOT WHAT I NEEEEEEEEEEEEED
[08:11] <EOF-sensei> how does one build the chromium-browser package?
[08:11] <borillion> Guys Im having some trouble installing Geda, it compiles fine and then when I launch some of the apps its complaining that it can't find PCB, does anyone have any idea?
[08:11] <EOF-sensei> the build tools are not clearly indicates
[08:11] <rypervenche> Why are there tildas after my script names when I ls, but not when I look in nautilus?
[08:12] <jrmcm> Action and Seven: love automagically. :)
[08:12] <EOF-sensei> LO
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> EOF-sensei: there is a daily build ppa if you wish
[08:12] <EOF-sensei> ActionParsnip: I wish to build it myself
[08:12] <EOF-sensei> I know I have enough time
[08:12] <Seven_Six_Two> rypervenche, those files are probably opened in an editor
[08:12] <EOF-sensei> but the source package doesn't have a build script of any sort
[08:13] <borillion> look for a make file?
[08:13] <nesuno> Hi! I'm using ubuntu 10.10, and aptitude upgrade says a warning: "untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed". Should I let the install, or there is something going on?
[08:13] <Seven_Six_Two> rypervenche, or possibly backups from an editor like emacs if there are duplicates (with and without ~)
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> EOF-sensei: that's fine. You'll need to install the build deps as well as build-essential
[08:13] <RobotCow> How do I change firefox to use another language other than the ugly E without changing all my apps?
[08:13] <RubenAlonzo> hi all, i installed "MacBuntu" theme, looks like mac osx, i was wondering if there was a way to lose or hide the task bar with all the icons that is constant on the left with all the icons?
[08:13] <rypervenche> Seven_Six_Two: I edited them with vim, yes. But now I'm not sure which to use...some only have the tilda version, some have both.
[08:14] <RobotCow> great, facebook records my f'ing ip and location
[08:14] <RobotCow> good thing i used that bitch with tor
[08:14] <Seven_Six_Two> nesuno, did you activate nonstandard repositories? did you add the repo's keys to your keyring?
[08:14] <Seven_Six_Two> rypervenche, I would go by timestamp.
[08:15] <RubenAlonzo> brb
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> RobotCow: so what if it does? You won't die if they do..
[08:15] <EOF-sensei> ActionParsnip: where is the package information
[08:15] <EOF-sensei> the build deps are nowhere to be found in list
[08:15] <Seven_Six_Two> RobotCow, did you know that they can track you with the javascript "share on fb" icon on other sites? even when you aren't logged in
[08:16] <EOF-sensei> w'ev
[08:16] <jrmcm> ActionParsnip: My grub menu looks so much better now. Its not a page a a half long :)
[08:16] <EOF-sensei> I'll run this automagicalle scripte :P
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> EOF-sensei: there is a command to get build deps but i can't recall it due to no sleep
[08:16] <jrmcm> Seven_six_two: My grub menu looks so much better now. Its not a page a a half long :)
[08:17] <EOF-sensei> I don't like that one of the build dependencies of a browser is apache
[08:17] <op> how to list file in root
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Jrmcm: you also get back ~120mb per kernel
[08:17] <jrmcm> op: ls
[08:17] <Seven_Six_Two> op, meaning what? in the root of your filesystem?
[08:17] <EOF-sensei> along with outdated libcurl dev libraries
[08:17] <jrmcm> ls /
[08:17] <Seven_Six_Two> ls /
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> find /    will list EVERY file :-)
[08:19] <MatBoy> someone using the cloud version here ?
[08:19] <froes> hi guys .. i am having some problems with my latest install ... the boot gets me to a grub shell... i load the config file and i am able to boot. how can i make it load automatically ?
[08:20] <Seven_Six_Two> MatBoy, iirc that's not until 11.10 or something like that.
[08:20] <DaPenguin> froes, you could try sudo update-grub and see if that fixes the issue
[08:20] <jiltdil> how to open a video in termainl using vlc?
[08:20] <murphylan> hi
[08:20] <Huck> I have asked questions about sound juicer here on several occasions with no reply, is this the correct place to ask ?
[08:20] <froes> DaPenguin, have done that but still the same
[08:20] <llutz> jiltdil: vlc /path/to/video
[08:20] <murphylan> I can not install mysql-server on ubuntu10.4
[08:20] <murphylan> who can help me
[08:20] <froes> DaPenguin, done update-grub2
[08:21] <MatBoy> Seven_Six_Two: 10.10 server shows me the option during install
[08:21] <bazhang> Huck, whats the question
[08:21] <murphylan> I execute apt-get install mysql-server
[08:21] <RobotCow> mulicheng -> i can
[08:21] <DaPenguin> froes, hmm, did tou check grub.cfg to make sure the uuids were accurate?
[08:21] <EOF-sensei> murphylan: pastebin the output
[08:21] <froes> DaPenguin, yeap ...
[08:21] <RobotCow> mulicheng -> i have a mysql server running and working
[08:21] <jiltdil> llutz; is it play video in terminal or outside terminal
[08:21] <bazhang> RobotCow, you mean murphylan
[08:22] <Seven_Six_Two> Huck, not really. it's not ubuntu specific
[08:22] <froes> DaPenguin, and it boots once i have loaded the cfg file
[08:22] <llutz> jiltdil: it starts vlc, running outside terminal
[08:22] <murphylan> RobotCow: can you help me, what is means?
[08:22] <DaPenguin> froes, hmm, so it's not seeing the config on initial bootup
[08:22] <RobotCow> murphylan -> I can help
[08:22] <bazhang> Seven_Six_Two, sure it is, it s in the repos
[08:22] <RobotCow> murphylan -> what's your native language?
[08:22] <Huck> when I drag an audio file to a a folder, it is almost twice the size of the wave file created by juicer,
[08:22] <murphylan> english
[08:22] <jiltdil> llutz: is there any way to play it under termainl
[08:22] <froes> DaPenguin, using bootcfg (hd0 .....
[08:22] <froes> DaPenguin, thats what i think
[08:22] <murphylan> RobotCow:
[08:22] <RobotCow> murphylan -> no, it's not english.
[08:23] <RobotCow> murphylan -> what is it?
[08:23] <EOF-sensei> :S
[08:23] <llutz> jiltdil: console (tty1..tty6) you mean?  using framebuffer it should be possible
[08:23] <bazhang> Huck, what is the end goal here? rip cds and get mp3? something other? please clarify
[08:23] <MatBoy> but what I wanted to know... this way of "clouding" is free, so not like landscape ?
[08:23] <murphylan> RobotCow: I don't see your means.
[08:23] <jiltdil> llutz:how to do this
[08:23] <EOF-sensei> >.<
[08:23] <bazhang> MatBoy, clouding what
[08:23] <RobotCow> murphylan -> what's your first language?
[08:23] <bazhang> EOF-sensei, please stop that
[08:23] <DaPenguin> froes, hmm, may want to check the grub.cfg to make sure it's looking at the right partition for it
[08:23] <llutz> jiltdil: idk, i never done that
[08:24] <murphylan> Chinese
[08:24] <murphylan> RobotCow: chinese
[08:24] <RobotCow> murphylan -> oh, nevermind. I don't speak that one.
[08:24] <Huck> I want the highest quality audio I can get stored on HD for playing into an audiophile system
[08:24] <RobotCow> murphylan -> but i can help with mysql
[08:24] <jiltdil> llutz:thanx for giving idea i will try
[08:24] <murphylan> RobotCow: let go
[08:24] <bazhang> Huck, you want FLAC?
[08:24] <MatBoy> bazhang: installing a cloud using ubuntu
[08:25] <EOF-sensei> murphylan: try $sudo apt-get update
[08:25] <bazhang> MatBoy, please clarify how you want to do that
[08:25] <llutz> Huck: you want vinyl, nothing digital
[08:25] <nixjr> Seven_Six_Two, i had to restart X to get my monitor changes to take effect, i didnt come back here afterwards cause its working correctly now, thanks for helping out
[08:25] <Huck> mp3's are too lossy, as are ogg, waves from a cd are twice the size and flack are about the same as a lossless wave riped from juicer
[08:25] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, np!
[08:26] <EOF-sensei> then $sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:26] <EOF-sensei> this will ensure that the current versions of other packages are not withholding the version of mysql in the repositories
[08:26] <nixjr> Seven_Six_Two, i got a folow up question now though lol, when i right click an application on the taskbar theres a "move to another workstation" option, how can a move something to another X session?
[08:26] <Seven_Six_Two> bazhang, I read the cloud page too fast! It says "Eucalyptus is the technology at the core of UEC – and will be in Ubuntu 11.04"
[08:26] <MatBoy> bazhang: ubuntu server has a cloud function. so you can install using 2 dedicated servers a small cloud. I wonder if there are any costs about it like you have with landscape when you want to manage your servers
[08:26] <Seven_Six_Two> bazhang, "as it has been since 9.04"   oops!
[08:27] <Huck> llutz , I am an eng, any old dual amp tubes using matched tubes are a thing of the past, also, try to get a real stylis for any good cartrige any longer.
[08:28] <MatBoy> Seven_Six_Two: yes so the question is if we have to pay for Euxalyptus
[08:28] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, well, I haven't done separate x screens, but I've looked into moving running processes, and the general consensus is that you can't do it for a variety of reasons. some of them being memory allocation done by the process when it started
[08:29] <bazhang> MatBoy, I'd ask in #ubuntu-cloud
[08:29] <RocketLauncher> koalas eat Eucalyptus.
[08:29] <MatBoy> nixjr: why other x session ? you have mutliple desktops
[08:29] <MatBoy> bazhang: :)
[08:29] <nixjr> MatBoy, yes
[08:29] <froes> DaPenguin, if you are talking about each menu entry yes
[08:29] <froes> DaPenguin, as i said, it boots perfectly, it just seems that it is not searching for any file
[08:29] <froes> DaPenguin, like it was the grub rescueCD
[08:29] <viktoras> twager: i don't care that you can't
[08:29] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, because separate x screens means separate x sessions
[08:29] <MatBoy> bazhang: only me in there :P
[08:30] <nixjr> Seven_Six_Two, you can probably tell im very new to ubuntu so thanks for just giving it to me a nutshell and not sending me down some complex path
[08:30] <bazhang> MatBoy, there are 51 users in there : #ubuntu-cloud
[08:30] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, that's what I read when I was trying to make dual head big desktop
[08:30] <nesuno> Seven_Six_Two: I enabled main, universe, restricted, multiverse, and from other: third party software (it is extras.ubuntu.com). I didn't bothered with keys, and it worked yet.
[08:31] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, feel free to search though, and if you figure out how to move a running process, tell me! I'd love to know
[08:31] <twager> viktoras: can't ?
[08:31] <Seven_Six_Two> nesuno, no other ppa's or third party repos, like google?
[08:31] <froes> do anyone knows how to reinstall grub inside the mbr ?
[08:32] <Jordan_U> froes: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[08:32] <nesuno> Seven_Six_Two: no. All the reops ends with ....ubuntu.com.
[08:32] <nixjr> Seven_Six_Two, i managed to fix my own problem before by editing xorg.conf and swapping monitor0 and monitor1 around, that was scary enough, i dont think ill look too deeply into moving running processes
[08:32] <Jordan_U> froes: That will not only run grub-install (and update-grub) but prompt you for what devices should be installed to on future upgrades.
[08:32] <MatBoy> bazhang: oh ? mhh
[08:33] <Seven_Six_Two> nesuno, it might be because if extras. that's just a warning because you don't have the keys installed. the install should still work fine, but you're more at risk
[08:33] <froes> have tried installing grub by doing a grub-install /dev/sda but it gives me no menu i have to load manually the file
[08:33] <MatBoy> bazhang: not in @ubuntu-cloud... oops!
[08:33] <Jordan_U> froes: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[08:33] <Seven_Six_Two> froes, what file are you loading?
[08:33] <jrmcm> ActionParsnip: lshw -C network mean list network hardware?
[08:34] <nesuno> Seven_Six_Two: I have keys for ubuntu extras. It is listed as "Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key".
[08:35] <red2kic> jrmcm: lshw (list hardware); -C network just grab the network class (information under network)
[08:35] <Kimmen> hello, any1 good with tmux and scripting? I'm trying to make a script that autostarts irssi and adds the nicklist in a split window
[08:35] <Kimmen> in tmux
[08:35] <Seven_Six_Two> nesuno, that's the one...hmmm...can you see what repository the software came from?
[08:35] <jrmcm> red2kic: ok yeah thats what i thought, and what it seemed to output, thx
[08:37] <jrmcm> In xchat can i auto ident my nick?
[08:37] <Kimmen> q
[08:37] <froes> Jordan_U, yes
[08:37] <froes> Jordan_U, got about 4 in there
[08:37] <Jordan_U> froes: Most likely you are not booting from sda.
[08:38] <Jordan_U> froes: (in the BIOS)
[08:39] <Jordan_U> froes: You can always choose to install grub to all drives so it doesn't matter what the boot order is. If you do that though be sure to use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" to be sure that they will all also get properly upgraded.
[08:40] <Seven_Six_Two> must sleep now. night all.
[08:40] <nesuno> Seven_Six_Two: There was something with the Hungarian mirror.  Now I switched to the main site, and it works (keys are also ).
[08:41] <nesuno> Seven_Six_Two: keys are also ok, no warning.
[08:41] <viktoras> twager: i don't care that you can't
[08:41] <nesuno> Seven_Six_Two: Thanks the help!
[08:41] <Seven_Six_Two> nesuno, then they did their job!
[08:41] <jiltdil> llutz: to play video under terminal i found this but this is not working fine see and help please sudo mplayer -vo svga -ao sdl movie.avi
[08:41] <Seven_Six_Two> np
[08:41] <bazhang> viktoras, pardon?
[08:41] <viktoras> bazhang: ?
[08:42] <aslan> hi, i work in hospital and we have almost 150 client, we try to use Active Directory Domain Controller, but if we do this, we will have so much money to pay for licence. i want to install computers ubuntu. our hospital software works in linux. and i want to make something like windows Active Directory system, i hear about openldap and pfsense. i take a look of them and these are so confused for me. does anyone suggest me a good software same active directory ?
[08:42] <aslan> but i want software that can be controlled with a good user interface. thanks.
[08:42] <pie_> is it just me or does ubutu suck at hibernating?
[08:42] <bazhang> viktoras, twager is not even in the channel; what are you talking about
[08:42] <viktoras> he will be
[08:42] <bazhang> viktoras, saying I dont care is not helpful
[08:44] <viktoras> bazhang: what do i get for the help?
[08:44] <daniel3> What desktop environment does Ubuntu or Netbooks run?
[08:44] <bazhang> viktoras, if you wish to help be helpful; chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:44] <daniel3> Is it like a modified Gnome or something
[08:44] <DaPenguin> not sure, probably gnome
[08:44] <viktoras> daniel3: gnome
[08:44] <bazhang> daniel3, unity?
[08:44] <Seven_Six_Two> aslan, do you just want to let people log on and have certain groups allowed to access specific files and directories, while other groups have different access?
[08:44] <viktoras> the last version of it
[08:45] <austinium> hi, iam trying to install ubuntu 10.04 using the minimal cd mini.iso
[08:45] <bazhang> viktoras, thats not so
[08:45] <viktoras> yes it is
[08:45] <austinium> i need lightweight GNOME desktop
[08:45] <daniel3> ah yeah it is Unity.
[08:45] <austinium> with just firefox in it
[08:45] <aslan> Seven_Six_Two: yes this is how u say i want truly
[08:45] <austinium> and gdm (for logins)
[08:45] <austinium> anyone here done something similar before?
[08:46] <Kimmen> austinium: just install gnome core
[08:46] <Seven_Six_Two> aslan, that's already built in to linux permissions. you have owner permissions, group permissions, and world permissions. files and directories can be attached to groups, and you also attach users to groups, giving them those permissions.
[08:46] <Jemt> Hello follow Ubuntuers. Does Ubuntu contain a package with additional WiFi drivers? I'm remastering Ubuntu, and would like to ensure the best possible support for wireless network adapters
[08:47] <austinium> Kimmen: ok, whats in it?
[08:47] <bazhang> Jemt, the linux-backports-modules
[08:47] <Kimmen> austinium: core gnome, so you can run gnome
[08:47] <bazhang> Jemt, err linux-backports-wireless-modules
[08:47] <aslan> Seven_Six_Two: i am newbie at linux , i start to use last 1 month, you say i can manage all stuff you say in linux, without a software ? and can be controller from an admin ?
[08:47] <Jemt> bazhang: Is sounds like a whole lot of packages (?)
[08:47] <Seven_Six_Two> aslan, if you want to have one pc's partition available on other pc's, just export them with nfs
[08:48] <Jemt> bazhang: Oh, that makes sense :)
[08:48] <Kimmen> austinium: no eye candy or extras
[08:48] <Jemt> bazhang: Thanks a lot - I'll look into it :)
[08:48] <red2kic> aslan: You probably want to try asking in #ubuntu-server too
[08:48] <froes_> Jordan_U, thanks ... the reconfigure worked perfectly
[08:48] <austinium> iam trying to avoid stuff like plymouth, evolution etc
[08:48] <Jordan_U> froes_: You're welcome.
[08:49] <Seven_Six_Two> aslan, if you're root, you have all of the control. when you do    ls -l    in the terminal, you see the permissions as groups of letters...for example   drwxrwxrwx
[08:49] <incorrect> i read somewhere that unity was going to be the default desktop of 11.04?
[08:49] <aslan> red2kic: Seven_Six_Two : thank you very much i will take a look of ubuntu-server channel
[08:50] <jrib> !natty | incorrect
[08:50] <austinium> ok, its a ~94mb download - gnome-core
[08:50] <Seven_Six_Two> aslan, the first character is the type of entry. d is directory. c is character device.   then the next 9 are read,write,execute  for user,group,worls
[08:50] <Seven_Six_Two> world
[08:50] <heyguise> ha
[08:50] <heyguise> finally
[08:50] <varun> hi
[08:50] <heyguise> if the dude who pointed mt to joy2pad is still here, thanks
[08:51] <heyguise> hi varun
[08:51] <Shuujin96> is 11.04 out already?
[08:51] <aslan> Seven_Six_Two: thank you, because of i am newbie, i thought it would be better with a good software GUI  , but i will take ur advice.
[08:51] <froes_> but now guys i have a new problem ... everything is mounted perfectly, but one my harddrives, that can be mounted and acessed, shows as unpartitioned space on gparted. what can it be ? what should i do ?
[08:52] <Seven_Six_Two> aslan, try to master the command line. if you have to admin, there's nothing worse than being stuck in a gui that doesn't work, doesn't do what you want. etc
[08:52] <austinium> installing gnome-core+gdm should get the user to a GUI login screen at bootup right?
[08:52] <aslan> Seven_Six_Two: thank you very much.
[08:52] <Seven_Six_Two> aslan, check out  http://www.tldp.org
[08:52] <Seven_Six_Two> np
[08:52] <austinium> Kimmen:installing gnome-core+gdm should get the user to a GUI login screen at bootup right?
[08:53] <bonjoyee> austinium: you also need xorg-server
[08:53] <varun> ubuntu natty server please
[08:53] <Kimmen> austinium: it should yes
[08:54] <austinium> bonjoyee:its is pulling in quite a few xserver-xorg related packages as dependencies
[08:54] <varun> hi friends,how to join ubuntu natty server
[08:55] <bazhang> varun, /j #ubuntu+1
[08:55] <bonjoyee> austinium: building from a minimal iso?
[08:55] <austinium> bonjoyee:yes
[08:55] <bonjoyee> austinium: ok..
[08:55] <austinium> varun: what do you mean by join?
[08:58] <Shuujin96> hardware driver. is a major problem in ubuntu, and other linuxes right? how to install the driver in ubuntu?
[08:58] <DaPenguin> Shuujin96, what driver?
[08:59] <Shuujin96> well, VGA, sound?
[08:59] <VEndix> is this a spamming channel?
[08:59] <VEndix> go there go there
[08:59] <bazhang> VEndix, no
[08:59] <DaPenguin> Shuujin96, the basic drivers should be installed by default
[08:59] <VEndix> so don't go anywhere
[08:59] <VEndix> this is the official ubuntu help channel
[09:00] <DaPenguin> Shuujin96, if you want the proprietary binary ones you can install them via the restricted-drivers installer
[09:01] <bazhang> Shuujin96, system --> administration --> additional drivers
[09:03] <Shuujin96> okay, thanks for the answers.. that seems easy just like device manager..:D
[09:04] <Shuujin96> on win..
[09:06] <vlado_> anyone know why cant browse/copy share folders on lan (only to preview)?
[09:06] <oasisTopher> Hello, I have ubuntu 10.04 and whenever I run sudo shutdown now from the command line it freezes, have to manually hit the power switch.  however sudo reboot now works!
[09:07] <bonjoyee> oasisTopher: tried "sudo shutdown -h now"?
[09:07] <llutz> oasisTopher: try "suddo halt"
[09:07] <llutz> sudo*
[09:07] <bonjoyee> oasisTopher: for reboot try sudo shutdown -r now
[09:07] <austinium> vlado_:open nautilus
[09:07] <oasisTopher> yeah I don't want to reboot, I want to shut  down.  so halt will be graceful?
[09:08] <n_ak> sudo poweroff maybe?
[09:08] <austinium> vlado_:click Go>Loacation...then type sftp
[09:08] <Perinola> hello all
[09:08] <Perinola> hello Alma
[09:09] <austinium> vlado_:http://postneo.com/2005/02/26/when-things-just-work-nautilus-and-sftp
[09:09] <varun> hi,i am unable to install simple compizconfig in ubuntu 11.04
[09:09] <varun> help please
[09:09] <red2kic> n_ak:poweroff --> halt
[09:09] <jrib> !natty | varun
[09:10] <curiousx> hi all =)
[09:10] <devilchaos> hi guys ive committed the cardinal sin and changed my root passwd and forgot it doh is there anyway i can try and change it or jog my memory some how?
[09:10] <AlmaNegra> hello perinola
[09:11] <austinium> bonjoyee & Kimmen: gnome-core + GDM installed, it pulled in plymouth from the repos...iam having a look at what else has been installed ;)
[09:11] <jrib> devilchaos: do you want to return ubuntu to its original state where there is no root password?  Or do you want to set a new root password?
[09:11] <oasisTopher> llutz  red2kic should I halt -f?
[09:12] <oasisTopher> llutz  red2kic should I halt -f?
[09:12] <red2kic> oasisTopher: Try halt if you haven't. If that doesn't work, well, try -f. I don't really know.
[09:12] <devilchaos> just need it changed which ever is easiest need to remove a few linux images from boot part as im low on space there ?!
[09:12] <llutz> oasisTopher: try "sudo halt"   before forcing something
[09:13] <jrib> devilchaos: well your first account can still sudo.  You can set a new password for root the same way you did it originally using sudo.  If you want to re-disable the root account, then you can do: sudo usermod -p '!' root
[09:13] <devilchaos> i love freenode.com
[09:14] <hjr778> hello
[09:14] <cyclist_2> Hello, there! is anyone here familiar with the application 'gpgdir'? It works well, until I add a file to an already encrypted directory; upon running the command 'gpgdir -O --skip-test --encrypt /this/directory' I get the following error messages: '[GNUPG:] BAD_PASSPHRASE' and '[*] Bad passphrase, try gpgdir with -v at /usr/bin/gpgdir line 624.'; now, if I decrypt the directory, add the new file to it and then encrypt it again, it works as
[09:14] <oasisTopher> thank you, goin now
[09:14] <devilchaos> cool jrib thanks
[09:15] <jrib> cyclist_2: I don't think I will be able to help you, but your message was truncated at "it works as"
[09:15] <hjr778> anybody can speak chinese?
[09:15] <jrib> !cn | hjr778
[09:15] <jrib> :/
[09:16] <cyclist_2> jrib: ...add the new file to it and then encrypt it again, it works as before, but I believe it should also work the way I am trying to do it; or not...?
[09:16] <hjr778> i am a fresh man
[09:16] <jrib> cyclist_2: I have no experience with gpgdir
[09:16] <jiltdil> framebuffer drivers for ubuntu?
[09:16] <hjr778> this is the first time to use linux os
[09:16] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:16] <jiltdil> is ubuntu uses idk as framebuffer
[09:16] <llutz> jiltdil: "idk" == i don't know
[09:17] <devilchaos> wow no pastes still rule in here?
[09:17] <jiltdil> llutz:ok please tell me which drivers it used as framebuffer
[09:17] <devilchaos> oops nootifications still on duh
[09:17] <llutz> jiltdil: "idk" == i don't know   <- it has a i reason i wrote that, i really don't know, i don't care about video/framebuffer and all that stuff
[09:18] <devilchaos> vesa is a default driver that used fb mode
[09:18] <VE2EBP> guys, what app should I run as server for VNC remote desktop viewer?
[09:18] <devilchaos> im lead to belive
[09:18] <jrib> !vnc | VE2EBP
[09:19] <VE2EBP> jrib I need something so that when I'm across the country, I can see my computer remotely
[09:20] <mycosys> ve2ebp try window switch
[09:20] <rfv> hello...:)
[09:20] <VE2EBP> mycosys is this an app?
[09:20] <jiltdil> devilchaos:thanx
[09:20] <mycosys> yup
[09:20] <VE2EBP> ok
[09:21] <VE2EBP> Where can I get this mycosys
[09:21] <mycosys> winswitch.org
[09:21] <VE2EBP> great thanks mycosys
[09:21] <mycosys> there is a ppa for ubunty, i think maverick it is in the distro?
[09:21] <rfv> i just installed Ubuntu 10.10 on a 1280*800 max res screen, and even after updating Ubuntu and the specific hardware..i am still stuck to 800*600
[09:21] <mycosys> has a choice of connection methods
[09:21] <rfv> all the dpkg-reconf and xorg stuff open balnk files
[09:22] <rfv> help ?..:)
[09:22] <amalgama> when i double click a .zip or .rar file, it is mounted as, lets say, a hard drive.. is that normal behavour??
[09:22] <mycosys> what video are you using rfv?
[09:22] <amalgama> *behaviour
[09:22] <maystreet> Hi, my I've just noticed my disk usage is a 97%, is there an easy way to track down the files taking up so much space?
[09:23] <rfv> sis
[09:23] <mycosys> ouch
[09:23] <jrib> maystreet: Disk Usage Analyzer in your Accessories menu
[09:23] <maystreet> jrib: no gui
[09:23] <cyclist_2> jrib: thank you, all the same.
[09:23] <mycosys> could try restricted hardware drivers
[09:23] <rfv> where is that ?
[09:23] <mycosys> in the settings menu iirc
[09:23] <mycosys> or system
[09:23] <jrib> maystreet: use du and find then
[09:24] <mylisto> can anyone recommend a data scraping program for linux?
[09:24] <shruggar> since upgrading to 10.04, my windows keep becoming "stuck" so that they are always under other windows. When this happens, the gnome-panel often turns invisible. Usually this is corrected by hitting alt+f2 and typing "metacity --replace" or "compiz --replace", but the solution is often very temporary, sometimes failing again as soon as I switch to another window.   Any ideas?
[09:24] <maystreet> jrib: I am but du is not giving the kind of definition I'm hoping for. Is there a command line tool that can make a baobab style image and export it as a png or the like?
[09:25] <devilchaos> Wicked a Wicked a Jungle is Massifffffffffffffff!!!!
[09:25] <devilchaos> thanks jrib worked a treat
[09:25] <rfv> chececk the update settings and no "restricted hardware drivers"
[09:25] <rfv> what is iirc ?
[09:26] <mycosys> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man4/sis.4.html rfv
[09:26] <mycosys> iirc = if i remember correctly
[09:26] <mycosys> gtg
[09:26] <devilchaos> good to go
[09:27] <devilchaos> ttfn lol
[09:27] <devilchaos> ;oP
[09:28] <rfv> ok thanks mycosys..:)
[09:28] <chanti> need help for install kde in ubuntu 10.4
[09:28] <ouyes> what is your problem when installing?
[09:29] <chanti> ouyes, some error occur, whilie intalling
[09:30] <Laurenceb> is there a way to connect to bluetooth serial modules without sudo?
[09:30] <Laurenceb> sudo rfcomm --raw connect 4  <--better than that?
[09:30] <chanti> ouyes,kde:
[09:30] <chanti>  Depends: kde-core (>=5:48ubuntu1) but it is not installable
[09:30] <santh> camera
[09:30] <ouyes> paste the errors to paste.com
[09:30] <jrib> maystreet: I do not know of such a program.  What isn't du doing that you want it to do?
[09:30] <VCoolio> maystreet: maybe you like discus http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/discus.htm
[09:30] <chanti> ouyes: ok
[09:31] <santh> how to make the built in camera work
[09:31] <ouyes> chanti, what system are you runing now?
[09:31] <santh> can someone help me out
[09:31] <ouyes> chanti, open a terminal and run uname -ra
[09:31] <chanti> ouyes, dell inspiron
[09:31] <VCoolio> maystreet: here's a list of tools that look nice http://www.ubuntugeek.com/hard-disk-usage-and-availability-report-tools.html
[09:32] <maystreet> jrib: hey sorry it keeps looking at hidden files (don't need it to do) and then going deep into directories hiding the total size of a directory making it really tricky to drill down
[09:32] <maystreet> VCoolio: cheers
[09:33] <chanti> ouyes,Linux sasi 2.6.32-30-generic #59-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 1 21:30:21 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:33]  * uLuBeY : Hello
[09:33] <jrib> maystreet: I would do something like: du -sh */  Find a big target, then move inside
[09:33] <ouyes> chanti, how do you install kde?
[09:33] <maystreet> jrib: neat, shall try
[09:34] <chanti> ouyes, through synaptic package manager
[09:35] <jrib> maystreet: if you're in a place with lots of output, you can drop the -h and then pass to pipe to sort -n to make it a little easier to find the larger directories
[09:35] <ouyes> chanti, you like kde or you want a try?
[09:35] <chanti> ouyes, yes
[09:35] <maystreet> jrib: oh didn't think of that, but it makes sense. Thanks!
[09:35] <quiescens> maystreet: what's wrong with boabab itself?
[09:35] <jrib> maystreet: the other approach is to just look for big files.  You could use find for that (it has some sort of size argument)
[09:35] <quiescens> er
[09:35] <quiescens> baobab
[09:35] <maystreet> quiescens: the computer has no gui (and hence no gnome)
[09:35] <chanti> ouyes, now i am tying apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:36] <ouyes> chanti, how does it go?
[09:36] <maystreet> jrib: yep, I just have a sneaky feeling some idiot has gone and copied a massive directory over and over again somewhere else
[09:36] <chanti> ouyes, installing is going on
[09:37] <quiescens> maystreet: ah
[09:37] <chanti> ouyes, one doubt; after intalling kubuntu, can i use gnome again
[09:37] <ruan> chanti: yes, switch back to ubuntu-desktop
[09:37] <quiescens> maystreet: i would probably try something like ncdu
[09:37] <ouyes> chanti, there are three ways to install a package in ubuntu at least,  apt-get install, software center and synaptic manager
[09:38] <chanti> ruan, thank you
[09:38] <maystreet> quiescens: looks neat, shall gave it a bash. Thanks!
[09:38] <extra11> ouyes no apitude?
[09:39] <ouyes> extra11, I use sudo
[09:39] <chanti> ouyes, what is the difference among them, i would like to know
[09:39] <ruan> at the login screen, switch to whichever desktop envir. you want
[09:39] <jiltdil> which framebuffer drivers does ubuntu uses?
[09:40] <chanti> ruan, thanks again. great guidance
[09:40] <ouyes> chanti, depend on what you are prefer,
[09:40] <chanti> ouyes, thank you , i will try
[09:41] <ouyes> chanti, actually, I am a newbie here, although I have been running ubuntu since 8.04
[09:42] <famthegeek> wmware or virtualbox for ubuntu 10.04 LST?
[09:42] <chanti> ouyes, i am little bit junior to you, i have been running 8.10
[09:42] <ruan> famthegeek: virtualbox has more popularity among linux users
[09:43] <jiltdil> which framebuffer drivers does ubuntu uses?
[09:43] <chanti> ouyes, ruan, why should not we install through synaptic package manager in 10.4
[09:44] <zxiest> What command should I use to get info about my os?
[09:44] <oCean> zxiest: what info?
[09:44] <zxiest> oCean version, memory usage.. etc
[09:45] <zxiest> basic info
[09:45] <ouyes> chanti, maybe synaptic is less smart than apt-get install
[09:45] <jiltdil> zxiest:lsb_release -a    free -m
[09:45] <oCean> zxiest: there is a lot. lsb_release -a will show version info
[09:45] <oCean> zxiest: you can use 'top' for running processes and their resource usage
[09:45] <zxiest> cool :-)
[09:45] <ouyes> chanti, there are some dependencies for a particular package,
[09:45] <zxiest> Thanks
[09:46] <zxiest> Darn.. I have 8.10 ..
[09:46] <zxiest> This is too old, right?
[09:46] <oCean> zxiest: commands as 'vmstat 1' shows info on memory usage
[09:46] <chanti> ouyes, ofcouse i agree with you,
[09:46] <oCean> !8.10 | zxiest
[09:46] <zxiest> Hmmm..
[09:47] <zxiest> Let's get another one :-)
[09:47] <zxiest> Thanks !
[09:47] <chanti> ouyes , any way let me try once kde, i am going to log off , thanks a lot
[09:47] <ouyes> chanti, you are welcom
[09:48] <jiltdil> which framebuffer drivers does ubuntu uses?
[09:48] <asiekierka> hi
[09:48] <asiekierka> my DSi requires me to use AAC
[09:48] <asiekierka> but i can't get faac to work
[09:48] <asiekierka> on my test .WAV file (made by decoding a .MP3 with lame)
[09:48] <asiekierka> it crashes after under 1%
[09:48] <asiekierka> and the resulting .aac only has the first few seconds
[09:53] <kevin01234> i need to make aplay command run in the background to keep my sound card "on", or programs crash due to a power saving "feature". how can I do this?
[09:53] <kevin01234> i've tried putting it in startup scripts, but aplay doesn't run unless *I* run it fro a command line
[09:54] <ikonia> kevin01234: aplay &
[09:54] <jrib> kevin01234: hmm, can you be more specific about what you tried?
[09:54] <ruan> yep, &
[09:55] <kevin01234> there's supposedly a feature with the snd_hda_intel driver to disable the power saving, but it is already set to 0 (off) and it still does this
[09:55] <kevin01234> if i hit alt+f2 in gnome and type aplay, it doesn't stay running, but if I do it in a terminal it does
[09:56] <jrib> kevin01234: did you see my question?
[09:56] <kevin01234> yes i tried aplay & but then I have to leave the window open
[09:56] <asiekierka> got it to work
[09:56] <jrib> kevin01234: you said you tried to put it in startup scripts...?
[09:57] <ruan> kevin01234: hmm. start gnome-terminal -x aplay   and leave it on another workstation?
[09:58] <ruan> workspace**
[09:58] <blip-> ubuntu 10.10 has no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file... have I missed some major changes ?
[09:58] <jrib> blip-: yes
[09:59] <ruan> somehow i still have a xorg.conf file
[09:59] <red2kic> ruan: gnome-terminal -x aplay? Are you for real?
[09:59] <jrib> blip-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[09:59] <blip-> thanks jrib
[09:59] <ruan> red2kic: what's wrong with that?
[09:59] <kevin01234> well aplay wavfile.wav works from the alt+f2 menu, but I don't actually want it to play anything :) i just want it to keep the sound card open
[10:00] <jrib> kevin01234: you said you tried to put it in startup scripts.  What exactly did you try?
[10:00] <wai> How long does it takes to create a server pls?
[10:00] <red2kic> ruan: I don't see the -x option in "gnome-terminal --help-all"
[10:00] <kevin01234> things like /etc/rc.local
[10:00] <jrib> !startup
[10:00] <ruan> red2kic: im running irssi off gnome-terminal  -t irssi -x irssi -c irc.freenode.net right now
[10:00] <jrib> kevin01234: see that link and put aplay in your session startup
[10:00] <kevin01234> i also tried startup prefs in gnome
[10:01] <ruan> wai: depends on what type of server you want to create
[10:01] <jrib> kevin01234: and what happened when you tried that?  What exactly did you try?
[10:01] <kevin01234> i jsut created a new item and put aplay & as the command
[10:01] <jrib> kevin01234: no &
[10:01] <wai> I would like to transfer some music or videos from one computer to an other
[10:02] <kevin01234> i think the issue is that by defaullt, aplay reads from stdin but if you're not on a terminal it can't
[10:02] <wai> Or taking control of my computer from an other i don't know how to explain
[10:02] <kevin01234> because it will happily play a wav file that way, but not just stay running when I launch it
[10:03] <scarleo> wai: You have Ubuntu on both computers?
[10:03] <wai> Yes!
[10:03] <kevin01234> maybe there's a daemon I can use just to keep the sound card open
[10:03] <ruan> red2kic: try running "gnome-terminal -x sleep 5". it will run a gnome-terminal for 5 seconds
[10:04] <scarleo> wai: you can share files with NFS, to take control of the other use remote desktop, it's in the system menu
[10:04] <wai> Thanks NFS thats what i was thinking of, is it really hard?
[10:05] <scarleo> !nfs | wai
[10:05] <red2kic> ruan: It worked -- but I don't know why -x isn't in the --help section.
[10:06] <wai> OK i will check that guys thx
[10:06] <ruan> red2kic: same
[10:06] <jrib> kevin01234: well the ideal solution is to figure out why the driver option didn't work.  But try just using "aplay" as the command in gnome's session preferences
[10:08] <zxiest> I'm picking an unbuntu version to use in production... Any obvious drawbacks for picking 10.10 glassfish over 10.04 server?
[10:08] <jrib> zxiest: "glassfish"?
[10:08] <ruan> glassfish... what
[10:08] <YankDownUnder> The glass might break...
[10:08] <zxiest> jrib nvm... Copied it from ec2
[10:09] <zxiest> I thought it was an Ubuntu version name lol
[10:09] <ruan> lol
[10:09] <YankDownUnder> 10.10 works lovely as a server.
[10:09] <YankDownUnder> ...I just keep the glass clean...
[10:09] <jrib> zxiest: the main advantage of 10.04 server is it will have support for 5 years (so 5 years until you *need* to upgrade).  With 10.10, there's 18 months of support (then you *need* to upgrade)
[10:10] <zxiest> What does "need to upgrade" mean?
[10:10] <YankDownUnder> From a support standpoint...
[10:10] <ruan> upgrade or get no support
[10:10] <jrib> zxiest: means packages are no longer supported (you don't get security updates)
[10:10] <YankDownUnder> I still have a few RH9 servers about...
[10:10] <ruan> yep
[10:10] <zxiest> I see..
[10:10] <ruan> no updates at all for some
[10:10] <zxiest> Aha..
[10:10] <tom453642356> Can someone help with Skype please?
[10:11] <zxiest> I think I'll go with 10.10 :-)
[10:11] <zxiest> Thanks guys!
[10:11] <Alex_> Is there an official netbook 10.10 torrent?
[10:11]  * YankDownUnder checks to see if I'm accidentally in the Skype channel...
[10:11] <ruan> Alex_: possibly. i'll check
[10:11] <Alex_> thanks :)
[10:11] <jrib> !skype | tom453642356
[10:11] <ruan> Alex_: http://ftp.ticklers.org/releases.ubuntu.org/releases//maverick/ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[10:11] <ruan> oops
[10:11] <YankDownUnder> zxiest, I know you'll like 10.04...truly...
[10:11] <ruan> wrong one
[10:12] <ruan> http://ftp.ticklers.org/releases.ubuntu.org/releases//maverick/ubuntu-10.10-netbook-i386.iso.torrent
[10:12] <zxiest> YankDownUnder I'll like 10.10 as well :-)
[10:12] <tom453642356> Webcam problem: in skype the image is really dark. when i use GUVCViewer, the image isn't dark. The viewer app must correct the image, but Skype doesnt?
[10:12] <oCean> Alex_: all images are here http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/
[10:12] <potenta> does lvpm work with ubuntu 10.10 ?
[10:12] <Alex_> Thanks.
[10:13] <YankDownUnder> zxiest, I've got it on a few servers - and am extremely happy with it's overall performance and ease of maint/admin...
[10:13] <zxiest> YankDownUnder you mean 10.10 ?
[10:13] <YankDownUnder> zxiest, Ya mon...10.10 => got it on a few servers...
[10:13] <Kimmen> I have it on my home server, runs great
[10:13] <zxiest> YankDownUnder cool .. :-)
[10:14] <Kimmen> 250mb ram with everything running (no X)
[10:14] <xgt001> hey every one
[10:14] <zxiest> Any chance you guys have a 10.10 on EC2 ?
[10:14] <xgt001> i have so many issues with lucid and meerkat :(
[10:14] <Kimmen> hardware or software?
[10:14] <xgt001> hardware
[10:15] <Kimmen> with what specifically?
[10:15] <xgt001> my laptop runs bad in lucid and maverick
[10:15] <xgt001> specifically
[10:15] <xgt001> it runs very noisy
[10:15] <xgt001> and battery life is very less
[10:15] <xgt001> compared to win 7
[10:16] <oCean> xgt001: do you have a support question?
[10:16] <oCean> !here
[10:16] <Kimmen> ah, the system probably cant use fan control etc and acpi
[10:16] <xgt001> Kimmen: how u do tat in a gui
[10:16] <Kimmen> xgt001: do what?
[10:16] <xgt001> fan control?
[10:17] <raven> how to stop iptables
[10:17] <oCean> raven: it is called ufw
[10:17] <Kimmen> xgt001: don't know since I never had the problem, either google/search the forums or hope that some1 in here can help with it =)
[10:17] <ruan> raven: ufw stop
[10:17] <ruan> raven: sudo ufw stop
[10:17] <ruan> disable*
[10:18] <xgt001> i did a lot off googlin but it aint help
[10:18] <ruan> raven: sudo ufw disable
[10:19] <Kimmen> xgt001: what make and model is your laptop?
[10:19] <xgt001> hp g42...
[10:19] <xgt001> core i3, 3gb ddr3
[10:19] <xgt001> 500gb
[10:19] <xgt001> ati radeon 6370
[10:20] <oCean> xgt001: keep your questions/answers in single line please
[10:20] <mas> ok..thank...im new comer..
[10:21] <mas> from indonesia
[10:21] <oCean> Hi mas, do you have a support question?
[10:21] <oCean> mas, there is also an indonesian channel
[10:21] <oCean> !id | mas
[10:21] <YankDownUnder> Hmmm...funny - I'm finding a heap of hardware issues with the HP G42 running literally ANY type of linux or BSD....
[10:21] <xgt001> my issues are
[10:21] <xgt001> 1) laptop runs very noisy in Ubuntu.... windows runs very quiet
[10:21] <xgt001> 2) battery life is almost half of what it gives in windows 7
[10:21] <mas> no...just my fiest check in...tks
[10:21] <xgt001> 3) ati graphics driver runs badly even though its up to date....video tearing never stops
[10:21] <FloodBot3> xgt001: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:22] <mas> thanks ocean
[10:22] <YankDownUnder> Sounds like the machine is a "Win-Machine" only...which isn't suprising...
[10:22] <oCean> mas, you're welcome
[10:22] <Kimmen> xgt001: it is definitely a problem with acpi. Ubuntu can't set fan speeds and power savings
[10:22] <red2kic> Newer Hardware -- Not in Ubuntu Hardware Database, I'm sure.
[10:22] <Kimmen> but I can't find any specific help on the problems =/
[10:22] <spirals> Kimmen, it most certainly can set power savings and does
[10:22] <Kimmen> on everything?
[10:23] <Kimmen> disk, wireless, screen, peripherals, fan, cpu throttling?
[10:23] <ruan> i cant connect to any bittorrent trackers, how can i fix this?
[10:23] <spirals> Kimmen: it's throttling my CPU right now
[10:23] <xgt001> funnily my hp desktop runs absolutely fine with ubuntu... no issues at all
[10:24] <Kimmen> spirals: ok, and you also have the HP G42?
[10:24] <ruan> i can ping torrent.ubuntu.com btw
[10:24] <spirals> Kimmen: No
[10:24] <spirals> Kimmen, I'm just pointing out that the capabilities are there.
[10:24] <YankDownUnder> The desktop and laptop have completely different hardware - so it's not like an "HP" thing...ditto with Dell junk...
[10:25] <Kimmen> spirals: yes they are but it seems that ubuntu (and perhaps all *nix distros) can't use them for the HP G42
[10:25] <spirals> That is unfortunate.
[10:25] <greenIT> does anyone have an ati graphics card? i can't suspend, but i want to... can anyone help me plz?
[10:25] <Kimmen> It's not uncommon that new hardware lacks support
[10:26] <spirals> Kimmen: yeah, i have to pre-vet components :/
[10:26] <Kimmen> and many laptops have their own specific quirks and specials
[10:26] <YankDownUnder> The companies do it on purpose....to push out substandard hardware that has only Win-drivers.
[10:26] <Kimmen> USB devices are the worst
[10:26] <sacarlson> xgt001: I found that there is a utility to check acpi  called powertop  sudo apt-get powertop http://www.lesswatts.org/projects/powertop/
[10:27] <creat0r> I have a Static Ip address and Ubuntu server, how can i give my static ip a name?
[10:27] <Cyanure> Hi, I just reinstalled my ubuntu and kept my .mozzilla config directory. I have a strange problem : I need to push twice refresh (or F5) to make firefox refresh. Any idea anyone ?
[10:27] <scarleo> ruan: Have you made the correct port forward in your router and opened the firewall port in Ubuntu?
[10:27] <sacarlson> creat0r: a name to other systems or just to yourself?
[10:27] <Kimmen> creat0r: easiest is to register for a free domain at no-ip etc.
[10:27] <ruan> scarleo: not yet. i'd need to contact my ISP to do that
[10:27] <xgt001> does any1 have similar issues with ati graphics??
[10:28] <YankDownUnder> xgt001, Um...have you looked through the HP support forums mate? Cuz it appears as though there are more than a few issues with the G42 (all versions)
[10:28] <scarleo> ruan: maybe that's why you're having problems then
[10:28] <creat0r> sacarlson: i have 3 systems, mail server and web server and download and upload server
[10:29] <creat0r> sacarlson: i need to create domin and sub domain for each
[10:29] <xgt001> YankDownUnder: nope...i wan2 run ubuntu badly :(
[10:29] <Kimmen> creat0r: take a look at no-ip.com
[10:29] <greenIT> i want to suspend my laptop (ati graphics card). first, it seems like everything is ok, until i try to wake it up again, because then the system is rebooting and doesn't just wake up.... can anyone help me fix this issue?
[10:29] <ruan> scarleo: i've set up port forwarding on 411 but is it possible to connect on that port?
[10:30] <creat0r> Kimmen: I tried before but i want to learn how setup a dns server
[10:30] <xgt001> greenIT: i have an ati on my laptop as well but it suspends fine... did u install restricted drivers ??
[10:30] <YankDownUnder> xgt001, Mate - dunno about what magic to perform on a machine that doesn't appear to run any version of either linux or BSD...
[10:30] <scarleo> ruan: is that the port your bittorrent program is using?
[10:30] <ruan> scarleo: yes
[10:30] <Kimmen> creat0r: then look at bind tutorials, there's great documentation online
[10:30] <raven> need a networking technican please
[10:31] <Kimmen> not that hard to set up a small domain
[10:31] <scarleo> ruan: What client are you running?
[10:31] <xgt001> YankDownUnder: i have issues only with graphics and power managemnt
[10:31] <ruan> scarleo: qbittorrent
[10:31] <greenIT> xgt001: nope, i run with the radeon driver (so the o/s-driver) because the prorpietary driver doesn't work that fine for me...
[10:31] <sacarlson> creat0r: that can be setup with a domain server from wan like http://www.everydns.com
[10:32] <xgt001> greenIT: i knw it has lotta issues but installing proprietary drivers is the only way to go
[10:33] <greenIT> xgt001: hrm... damn... ok, then i have to abandon the suspend-mode^^
[10:33] <greenIT> xgt001: thx for the info :)
[10:33] <scarleo> ruan: Ok, never tried that one. Does it give any error message? Or does it log to somewhere?
[10:33] <scarleo> ruan: also did you check your Ubuntu firewall that 411 is open
[10:34] <ruan> scarleo: i have no firewall
[10:34] <ruan> scarleo: it doesnt give an error, it says Connection timed out
[10:34] <sacarlson> creat0r: I guess from inside you need to setup you router to manage your port forwarding,  you can also use bind9 to handle access for your internal lan network resolveing
[10:36] <twitch> lovin ff4 ;)
[10:37] <chuwiey> Hi, i'm running 10.10 and i can't get a nvidia 8600gt detected - can someone help?
[10:37] <ikonia> chuwiey: what do you mean can't get it detected
[10:37] <scarleo> ruan: Can you try to download a torrent from somewhere else to see if it's that tracker that has problems
[10:38] <chuwiey> ikonia: ie. isn't recognized.. - i downloaded the drivers from nvidia.com and after running them it says no relevant hardware detected
[10:39] <ikonia> chuwiey: why did you download drivers from nvidia.com when ubuntu packages  supported drivers
[10:39] <sacarlson> ruan: I think bittorent trackers are normally on port 80 so if you can see any other site seems it's not a tracker problem.  some ISP don't like torrents and find ways to filter them
[10:40] <pizzas> From the command line, how do I get to the: file system/var/www ?
[10:40] <pizzas> I can only cd to my home directory
[10:40] <ruan> i tried to kexec the current kernel, but it failed and kernel paniced
[10:40] <chuwiey> ikonia: usually, when i install an nvidia card on ubuntu it will ask me whether i want to install proprietary 3rd party drivers. I didn't get this message, and when searching for additional drivers it didn't find any, so i went and did it myself...
[10:40] <ikonia> ruan: what are you doing trying to executre a kernel ?
[10:41] <ruan> ikonia: im testing kexec
[10:41] <ikonia> chuwiey: pastebin the output of lspci
[10:41] <ikonia> ruan: who told you that's how you test it ?
[10:41] <potenta> pizzas: cd /var/www
[10:41] <sacarlson> ruan: I guess to perform best you should setup port forwarding of all trafic to your torrent box,  I'm not sure what blocks they use these days
[10:41] <ruan> ikonia: no one
[10:41] <ikonia> ruan: that's not a good idea
[10:42] <ruan> ikonia: how am i supposed to test it then?
[10:42] <pizzas> potenta that was too easy, I thought I tried that already.... thanks ;)
[10:42] <chuwiey> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/VZY1mGnS thx
[10:42] <ikonia> ruan: what do you actually want to test in it ?
[10:42] <ruan> ikonia: i wanted to test its ability to boot up a kernel without restarting
[10:43] <ikonia> ruan: what is your end goal,
[10:43] <ikonia> chuwiey: no nvidia card in that list, just an intel
[10:43] <ruan> ikonia: being able to update my kernel without restarting
[10:43] <ikonia> ruan: you can't do that
[10:43] <ruan> ikonia: kexec was made for that
[10:44] <ruan> !info kexec-tools
[10:44] <ikonia> no it wan't
[10:44] <chuwiey> ikonia: yeah, i know... that's my problem.. it's in the motherboard, the fan is running... and yet, isn't detected?
[10:44] <ikonia> chuwiey: dead
[10:44] <ikonia> ruan: I know what they are for and that they can boot a kernel, but updating the kernel without a reboot is nuts
[10:45] <chuwiey> ikonia: ok. :( ... one more question.. i'm trying to install boxee but software center says there is an error with apt... ?
[10:45]  * zxiest back
[10:45] <ikonia> chuwiey: what's the error
[10:45] <ikonia> zxiest: can you please disable that away message
[10:46] <zxiest> ikonia what away msg?
[10:46]  * ikonia is back
[10:46] <zxiest> I just did /me back
[10:46] <zxiest> Manually
[10:46] <ikonia> zxiest: ok, then please use /away for your status
[10:46] <zxiest> I wasn't away. I got disconnected
[10:46] <oCean> zxiest: no need to announce away/back
[10:47] <strk> I bought an HPmini and installed ubuntu-netbook on it. Plugging an external monitor is giving me headaches. Text mode is good. Graphic mode up to GDM is fine, as long as I log in, it stops working
[10:47] <zxiest> Okay.. I'll say hello next time :-)
[10:47] <chuwiey> ikonia: unhandlable error. "there seems to be a programming error with aptdaemon..."
[10:47] <strk> blank external monitor, background-only in lid monitor
[10:47] <ikonia> chuwiey: I've never seen that, is boxxee in the ubuntu repos
[10:48] <chuwiey> ikonia: nope. however, it had no problems installing in the past... (not necessarily this ver.)
[10:48] <truepurple> What file system do I want to use for installing ubuntu?
[10:49] <ansh> Ubuntu 10.10 showing just 861.8 MiB of physical Memory instead of 3 GiB. Causing crashes and performance issues...
[10:49] <ruan> truepurple: ext4
[10:49] <ikonia> chuwiey: I'm wondering (without looking in detail) if the package version is the issue, or th erepo
[10:49] <ikonia> ansh: how are you looking at your ram
[10:49] <truepurple> I thought there was a linux specific FS that was better to use for linux then ext4
[10:49] <ikonia> no
[10:49] <ansh> ikonia: System Monitor
[10:50] <chuwiey> ikonia: i wouldn't know.. since this isn't from repo i would go with package version.. any way to check?
[10:50] <ikonia> ansh: that sshowing what's in use
[10:50] <truepurple> So all these other options, reiserFS, btrfs, JFS, XFS, not worth using?
[10:50] <ikonia> chuwiey: install something else from an ubuntu repo, if it works you can have reaosnalbe confidence the package manager is fine
[10:50] <ikonia> truepurple: they are worth using for specific reasons, ext4 is the default most common
[10:51] <truepurple> What reasons?
[10:51] <chuwiey> ikonia: thanks for your help. have a great day.
[10:51] <ansh> ikonia: no, total 861.8 MiB of memory is abailable for use
[10:51] <ikonia> ansh: open a terminal and type "free" what do you see
[10:52] <kostja_osipov> hi. I lost sound after a scheduled upgrade of 10.04 on my dell e6410. all modules are loaded, there are no errors, alsamixer runs fine. yet the sound is dead. help...
[10:52] <ansh> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/bGaXdFEM
[10:53] <truepurple> ikonia: When do I want to use the other ones?
[10:53] <ikonia> ansh: that really is showing only 800meg, use the memtest option from your grub boot options or the livecd to test your ram
[10:53] <ikonia> truepurple: don't worry about it, use ext4,
[10:53] <greenIT> hi, i have a problem with my ati graphics card: i can't say my notebook to standby... the notebook isn't shut down when i try to standby, as it should be, but when i want to wake it up again, the notebook just reboots... how can i solve this problem
[10:53] <greenIT> ?
[10:53] <ansh> ikonia: ok, thanks..
[10:54] <ikonia> greenIT: known long term problem
[10:54] <Kimmen> ansh: perhaps you have a part shared memory for video?
[10:54] <ikonia> greenIT: many bugs and fixes depending on your card version and driver version on launchpad.net
[10:54] <ikonia> greenIT: no proper fix though
[10:54] <Laurenceb> whats the easiest way to backup an entire hard drive?
[10:55] <greenIT> ikonia: i found a solution for suspend... but nothing for standby.. do you know a solution?
[10:55] <truepurple> ikonia When I create partitions, it leaves these tiny fragments of free space, why? Like 1mb free space and a separate 73.2kb free space listed separately
[10:55] <ikonia> greenIT: no, as I've said there are plenty on launchpad.net
[10:55] <ikonia> truepurple: probably your block size,
[10:56] <truepurple> Block size?
[10:56] <ikonia> truepurple: partition overhead maybe ?
[10:56] <ikonia> truepurple: does it really matter ?
[10:56] <greenIT> ikonia: thx, then i'll look at launchpad.net :)
[10:56] <strk> how does gdm know who's "currently logged in" and who isn't ?
[10:56] <truepurple> Well, seems like clutter anyway, but ok
[10:56] <ikonia> strk: when you login you start a session, that data is read by gdm
[10:56] <strk> ikonia: I killed gnome-session
[10:57] <ikonia> strk: it's also in wtmp
[10:57] <strk> another user is in wtmp too, but gdm doesn't give him as "currently logged in"
[10:57] <mrwes> can I store my IRC server password in Chatzilla?
[10:57] <truepurple> I want to install windows latter after this install, should I make a separate partition for it from unetbootin screen, or have windows carve out its own space, or does it not matter?
[10:57] <ikonia> strk: how is he logged in ?
[10:57] <strk> ssh
[10:57] <ikonia> strk: ok, so that's not a gdm session
[10:58] <strk> ikonia: ok, killed -bash for the user, and the "currently logged in" thing disappeared
[10:58] <strk> ikonia: I'm trying to figure what made that users's session break external monitor
[10:58] <strk> ikonia: another user (who didnt' touch monitor settings) can use monitor just fine
[10:58] <strk> but this user, won't
[10:59] <ikonia> strk: use monitor ?
[10:59] <ikonia> break monitor session ?
[11:00] <sacarlson> truepurple: I would leave a free space to install another system later on this install so the next time you install you don't need a livecd to install it or risk resizeing a partition at a later time.
[11:00] <strk> ikonia: a netbook with an external monitor plugged in
[11:00] <strk> ikonia: I just succeeded to find that ~/.config was making the difference
[11:01] <truepurple> "Percentage of the file system blocks reserved for the super-user:" Defaults at 5%, what is this about?
[11:01] <ikonia> strk: how is that anything to do with the gdm information you've just mentioned
[11:01] <phoenixsampras> hello, how to play blueray movies with MOVIE PLAYER?
[11:02] <strk> ikonia: in no way probably, I was just afraid that "logged in" might have meant some config file were in memory already so whatever I'd do wouldn't change a thing
[11:03] <DropSQL> hi all :)
[11:03] <truepurple> hi
[11:04] <strk> ikonia: anyway, a very though experience, for the netbook owner (not an hacker...)
[11:05] <bhavesh> anybody have worked on Eucalyptus 2.0 ?
[11:05] <truepurple> sacarlson: "Percentage of the file system blocks reserved for the super-user:" Defaults at 5%, what is this about?
[11:05] <ikonia> truepurple: it's an emergency get out of jail overhead for a system
[11:06] <bhavesh> plz help me ?
[11:06] <ikonia> bhavesh: what's the question
[11:06] <strk> ikonia: on "Detect monitors" clicking, the main monitor (netbook lid) started blinking and the only way to do anything has been switching to a virtual console or logging in from another machine trough ssh...
[11:06] <ikonia> strk: ok
[11:07] <bhavesh> ikonia: I am not able to install the Euca 2.0 successfully.
[11:07] <bhavesh> have u tried it any time
[11:07] <truepurple> ikonia so leave it at the default 5%?
[11:07] <ikonia> bhavesh: what's the problem
[11:07] <sacarlson> truepurple: I have no idea, never seen it
[11:07] <ikonia> bhavesh: no, I've not tried it
[11:07] <ikonia> truepurple: leave well alone
[11:08] <mrwes> l
[11:08] <truepurple> Ikonia how about all these mounting options and mounting point options?
[11:08] <ikonia> truepurple: what about them ?
[11:09] <sacarlson> truepurple: just make sure you pick a root  /  and should provide for a swap
[11:09] <appi_uppi> hi, while reloading the synaptic packager i got this error message "Could not download all repository indexes". Just now i have installed ubuntu 10.04
[11:09] <ikonia> appi_uppi: reload it, see if it happens again
[11:09] <DropSQL> help my plz, my problem: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=800613&view=&hl=&fromsearch=1
[11:09] <appi_uppi> ikonia: sure i will try now
[11:09] <ikonia> DropSQL: explain your issue, basic
[11:09] <brothersome> Question: Has Xubuntu a good performance on a PanelPC with 4 GB flash?
[11:10] <truepurple> Ikonia  leave them alone? Just use what it defaults as?
[11:10] <Laurenceb> is it possible to sync an ext3 formatted drive with an ext4 formatted one?
[11:10] <zxiest> How can I list my users?
[11:10] <DropSQL> ikonia: i have problem with skype video call
[11:10] <ikonia> truepurple: do you have a reason to change them, do you know what they do ?
[11:10] <ikonia> Laurenceb: sure
[11:10] <ikonia> DropSQL: ok,
[11:10] <ikonia> zxiest: users from what ?
[11:10] <daniel3> Wow this IRC program for Mac is crazy.
[11:10] <zxiest> command line
[11:10] <newbie123> Hello, I am facing a problem after installing ubuntu and kubuntu. The installation completes succesfully, but I cannot login. I give the right password, it sems to load, the screen changes, but comes back to login scren. In ubuntu I could login as the Ubuntu Desktop Safemode mode. Could anyone please help me?
[11:10] <zxiest> ikonia
[11:10] <ikonia> DropSQL: skype is closed source, support is provided by skypy
[11:10] <truepurple> ikonia I don't know what they do, that is why I ask
[11:10] <om26er> bs_, hey!
[11:11] <Laurenceb> is it possible to create a drive image of a fat32 formatted drive under ubuntu?
[11:11] <ikonia> truepurple: ok, so unless you have a machine with a special requirement, trust the defaults
[11:11]  * Laurenceb is trying to backup some drives
[11:11] <brothersome> daniel3: I use jIRCii --- Java IRC client --- platform independent
[11:11] <ikonia> Laurenceb: you can create vfat32 file systems
[11:11] <sacarlson> truepurple: if no partitions were originaly left unasigned then it may not pick a root for you.  if it does you should be good to go
[11:11] <bs_> om26er, hello!
[11:11] <Laurenceb> interesting
[11:11] <DropSQL> ikonia: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=94203 it's screenshot, i think my problem in drivers...
[11:12] <Laurenceb> ikonia: so i have 60GB drive with 30GB fat32 partition with wondows and 26GB ext3 with ubuntu
[11:12] <truepurple> sacarlson I don't understand that
[11:12] <Laurenceb> i want to back it up on a new 500GB drive
[11:12] <ikonia> DropSQL: why do you think that
[11:12] <daniel3> brothersome, this one is called Textual
[11:12] <Laurenceb> whats the best strategy?
[11:12] <ikonia> Laurenceb: ok, make a vfat32 partiton on the new drive, mount it, copy the data across
[11:12] <Laurenceb> right
[11:12] <sacarlson> truepurple: has it already auto picked a root partition location for you?
[11:12] <DropSQL> ikonia: other people not have problem in skype on ubuntu
[11:13] <ikonia> DropSQL: that doesn't mean it's a driver problem ?
[11:13] <ikonia> Laurenceb: it really is that simple
[11:13] <truepurple> sacarlson I don't know
[11:13] <Laurenceb> ok, thanks
[11:13] <DropSQL> Differences in the system for me and others'
[11:14] <Guest7881> kinda new at linux lol
[11:14] <Laurenceb> ikonia: i dont see vfat32 in Gparted
[11:14] <sacarlson> truepurple: well if you continue and it returns with error of not having defined a root you will know for sure
[11:14] <DropSQL> ikonia: main gifferenc in drivers
[11:14] <ikonia> Laurenceb: what are the options
[11:14] <ikonia> DropSQL: what drivers /
[11:14] <Guest7881> got a ?
[11:14] <Laurenceb> fat32 or 16
[11:14] <ikonia> Laurenceb: fat32 then
[11:14] <truepurple> sacarlson I don't know. One has / after it, another has /home and another /user from the list of partitions
[11:14] <Laurenceb> oh ok
[11:14] <Laurenceb> simple
[11:14] <DropSQL> ikonia: I do not understand the question
[11:15] <Guest7881> got a laptop with wifi it works but it wont load pages all the way anyone have a solution
[11:15] <Laurenceb> hmf my '500GB' drive is really 466GB   :(
[11:15] <ikonia> DropSQL: you said the main difference is drivers, what drivers, and main difference between what ?#
[11:15] <sacarlson> truepurple: that sounds good  / is normally what is what it has chosen for root partition then
[11:16] <pizzas> Can I create and edit files from the command line?
[11:16] <benlaod> yoooooooo
[11:16] <benlaod> qui est français???
[11:17] <ikonia> pizzas: depends on the file type, but yes
[11:17] <ikonia> !fr | benlaod
[11:17] <raylee> i been having alot of flash problems on my ubuntu 32 bit
[11:17] <brothersome> pizzas: Yes, vi or e3 or nano or pico or emacs
[11:17] <pizzas> I want to create and edit a settings.php file for drupal 7
[11:17] <ikonia> brothersome: how can you edit a video file with vi ?
[11:17] <ikonia> pizzas: ok, any text editor will work fine
[11:17] <truepurple> sacarlson: what are the /home and /usr about?
[11:17] <DropSQL> ikonia: hmm... "I had a problem using Mint 10 which is still an ubuntu based system. I  downloaded from the Package manager the streamcam and it cured all the  skype camera issues. " answer in skype forum... streamcam - what is it?						 							
[11:18] <ikonia> DropSQL: no idea
[11:18] <appi_uppi> ikonia: do i need to configure the URL in under software source, to get udpates from other source? If so please provide me some of the trusted urls
[11:18] <ikonia> appi_uppi: did it fail a second time ?
[11:18] <appi_uppi> ikonia: yes
[11:18] <pizzas> ikonia I have tried to do it in ubuntu and everything is write protected. Is that normal?
[11:18] <brothersome> truepurple: usr = Universal system root (hope that I am right)
[11:18] <ikonia> pizzas: use sudo if you need super user privileges
[11:19] <ikonia> appi_uppi: ok, open the software sources gui, and try one of the other mirrors, that one mirror maybe having a problem
[11:19] <sacarlson> truepurple: you can define those seperate partitions but they should default as subs of the root partititon if left to default
[11:20] <truepurple> sacarlson: So is the root one the only one worth concerning myself with, and ignore these /home and /usr labels?
[11:20] <sacarlson> truepurple: some people like to have /home separate so that they can install new systems and use the old home in new systems without moving them
[11:20] <raylee> does anyone use ubuntu 32 bit linux
[11:20] <arand> !anyone | raylee
[11:21] <pizzas> ikonia sudo is for the command line only, right?
[11:21] <sacarlson> truepurple:  for personal computer just root is fine,  I like a spare partition to play with experimental systems at a later time
[11:21] <ikonia> pizzas: correct, gksudo for a graphical application
[11:22] <appi_uppi> ikonia: i got this error message "Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release.gpg  Could not connect to in.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (111.91.91.37). - connect (110: Connection timed out)
[11:22] <mycosys> ikona - sudo works just fine for startin x apps
[11:22] <ikonia> appi_uppi: yes, and I told you what to do
[11:22] <ikonia> mycosys: no it doesn't
[11:22] <sacarlson> truepurple: a spare partition like 10 - 16 gig is big enuf to play with and can still be used as storage space later if needed
[11:22] <ikonia> mycosys: gksudo is the correct tool
[11:22] <mycosys> yes it does
[11:22] <truepurple> sacarlson: I will have at least 3, 1 for linux, 1 for windows, and a joint one. Should I concern myself which is /home and which is /usr?
[11:22] <ikonia> mycosys: no, it doesn't it does not set the enviornment correctly
[11:22] <appi_uppi> ikonia: I am not sure what do you mean by mirror
[11:23] <ikonia> appi_uppi: in the software sources application, there is a list of available ubuntu repos mirrors, select a different one than the in.archive.ubuntu.com mirror
[11:23] <ikonia> !lucid
[11:23] <sacarlson> truepurple: you should be more concerned to have one also for swap, one for root of linux,  and one for windows,
[11:23] <murphylan1> RobotCow: RobotCow: Hi, I'm installing mysql on ubuntu server 10.4 , meet error "An error occurred while setting the password for the MySQL administrative user. This may have happened because the account already has a password, or because of a communication problem with the MySQL server."
[11:23] <brothersome> truepurple: usr Universal services/system root ---- Only for programs / libraries etc.
[11:24] <appi_uppi> ikonia: sure, will try now
[11:24] <murphylan1> Hi all, I'm installing mysql on ubuntu server 10.4 , meet error "An error occurred while setting the password for the MySQL administrative user. This may have happened because the account already has a password, or because of a communication problem with the MySQL server."
[11:24] <ikonia> appi_uppi: I've just tried to connect to the in.archive.ubuntu.com mirror, and it appears to be down
[11:24] <sacarlson> truepurple: the default install should have auto created a swap partition also
[11:24] <ikonia> murphylan1: mysql needs to be running to set a mysql password
[11:24] <murphylan1> $ mysql -u root -h localhost -p
[11:24] <murphylan1> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can’t connect to local MySQL server through socket ‘/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock’ (2)
[11:24] <murphylan1> ikonia: yes, I have set a password
[11:25] <DavidGuetta> Hello!
[11:25] <ikonia> murphylan1: ok, so that's why it's erroring then, you have already set a password
[11:25] <appi_uppi> ikonia: oh i see.
[11:25] <rajvi> Hi all,Goole Earth install but application not launching ( UBUNTU 10.10 via WUBI on Dell Mini10 netbook) tried to install from normal channel as well from the .deb from google . Help Please
[11:25] <raven> how to ping a port?
[11:25] <ikonia> raven: you don't
[11:25] <brothersome> raven: ping.eu
[11:25] <truepurple> Sacarlson I don't see any partion labeled as "swap" should I be concerned about this?
[11:25] <ZULO> any1 can help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/585834/ ? thanks
[11:25] <ikonia> brothersome: that won't ping a port
[11:25] <murphylan1> ikonia: how can I do it
[11:26] <ikonia> murphylan1: do what ?
[11:26] <murphylan1> ikonia: how to install mysql
[11:26] <rajvi> @truepurple ideally thier should b a swapdrive
[11:26] <brothersome> I know: ping is ICMP --- Using 5/6/7 port
[11:26] <ruan> !googleearth | rajvi
[11:26] <murphylan1> ikonia: I meet a error, when installing
[11:26] <ikonia> brothersome: so it won't bing a port
[11:26] <sacarlson> truepurple: is this a manual partition?  if so yes you should create a swap partition the same size or a bit biger than your system ram size
[11:26] <ikonia> murphylan1: it's already installed if you have set a password
[11:26] <oCean> rajvi: make sure package lsb-core is installed
[11:26] <brothersome> ping.eu for portcheck and ping
[11:27] <rajvi> sure oCean
[11:27] <murphylan1> ikonia: but I can not login
[11:27] <oCean> rajvi: it is know that if lsb-core is not installed, g-earth will not start
[11:27] <ikonia> murphylan1: make sure mysql is running
[11:27] <truepurple> sacarlson: Why should I? I have more then enough ram to cover any memory needs for me not to have any space dedicated to virtual memory
[11:27] <rajvi> Thanks Ocan
[11:27] <sacarlson> truepurple: swap space is also used for hybernate mode and other things
[11:28] <murphylan1> yes, it is running
[11:28] <oCean> rajvi: welcome
[11:28] <appi_uppi> ikonia: its working fine :)
[11:28] <murphylan1> ikonia: it is running
[11:28] <murphylan1> ikonia: i use status mysql
[11:28] <ikonia> murphylan1: ok, so how are you trying to login
[11:28] <ikonia> appi_uppi: great news
[11:28] <appi_uppi> ikonia: thanks  a loooot :)
[11:28] <ikonia> murphylan1: how are you trying to login
[11:28] <murphylan1> ikonia: I use mysql -uroot -p
[11:29] <ikonia> murphylan1: then your password is wrong if it's running
[11:29] <ZULO> any1 can help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/585834/ ? thanks
[11:29] <murphylan1> ikonia: $ mysql -u root -h localhost -p
[11:29] <rajvi> @oceani m installing them i think i know where is the problem
[11:29] <sacarlson> truepurple: also if you ever play with virtualbox you will find that there is never enuf mem
[11:29] <truepurple> Sacarlson: Well, can't imagine anything other then hybernation, and couldn't the OS use its own partition for that?
[11:29] <murphylan1> ikonia: how to change the password?
[11:29] <rajvi> hey  anyone uses Quicken on Ubuntu
[11:30] <jiltdil> how to connect to windows having system?
[11:30] <sacarlson> truepurple: no without swap you will have disable that mode and maybe others I'm not using
[11:30] <brothersome> jiltdil: Samba client
[11:30] <oCean> murphylan1: first you should fix this error "Can’t connect to local MySQL server through socket ‘/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock"
[11:30] <oCean> murphylan1: the mysql-server might not be running. Try a stop and start again
[11:31] <jiltdil> brothersome: should  i have to install samba client on my ubutnu and any setting on the windows side operating system
[11:31] <ikonia> murphylan1: if you don't know the root password you'll need to do a password recovery, that's documented on the mysql.com website, you'll need to start mysql with the --skip-grant-table option,
[11:31] <ikonia> oCean: I agree, but he assures me it's running
[11:31] <murphylan1> oCean: I try it more time
[11:32] <sacarlson> truepurple: if you don't have disk space to spare and never turn your computer off, then don't create swap, I don't have it on my eeepc since it has too little hard disk space to spare for it
[11:33] <rajvi> @jai ho to @oCean ..tahnks once again
[11:33] <rajvi> Thanks
[11:33] <truepurple> sacarlson: With a 2tb drive, space isn't a issue, but can I hide this drive so its out of sight and out of mind?
[11:34] <rajvi> @truepurple use mount manager
[11:35] <sacarlson> truepurple: swap partitions are never mounts so yes they are out of site
[11:35] <rajvi> anyone with quicken on 10.10
[11:36] <sacarlson> truepurple: I'm not sure but I think crash events are sometimes captured to swap
[11:36] <truepurple> sacarlson: So set aside 8gb to it?
[11:36] <ZULO> who can help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/585834/ ?
[11:36] <sacarlson> truepurple: is that your ram size?  sounds good to me
[11:37] <murphylan1> oCean: when I run this command: sudo netstat -tap | grep mysql there is no info to show
[11:37] <r_a_f> hello - after update i have NO SOUND :(
[11:38] <truepurple> sarcalson 8gb
[11:38] <oCean> murphylan1: first try: ps -ef | grep mysqld
[11:38] <SnowmanX11> Is there anybody who is good at configuration of soundcards?
[11:39] <raylee> does anybody have problem with flash
[11:39] <ZULO> any1 can help me with dhcp client problem?
[11:39] <raylee> on ubuntu
[11:39] <oCean> !here | SnowmanX11 just aks your question in the channel
[11:39] <murphylan1> oCean: root@ubuntu:~# restart mysql  mysql start/running
[11:39] <oCean> murphylan1: no
[11:39] <oCean> murphylan1: ps -ef |grep mysqld
[11:39] <truepurple> sacarlson: So if ubunutu should be in the root partition, what about windows?
[11:39] <Ti-Tw> I'm trying to play Minecraft, but it won't load. All I get is a black screen. I've found people with the same problem and the solution is always "get sun-java6-plugin". My computer is using AMD64 and Ubuntu Software Center tells me theres not a sun-java6-plugin for AMD64. How can I fix this problem? I'm using the IcedTea plugin right now
[11:40] <murphylan1> oCean: root@ubuntu:~# ps -ef | grep mysqld
[11:40] <murphylan1> root      2419  2243  0 19:39 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto mysqld
[11:40] <murphylan1> oCean: root      2419  2243  0 19:39 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto mysqld
[11:40] <SnowmanX11> oCean: I did many times without success. The story is long, that is why I asked for somebody who is willing to spend a time on it first.
[11:40] <oCean> murphylan1: ok, nothing is running, even though the startscript says it is.
[11:40] <sacarlson> truepurple: seems windows likes partition /dev/sda1  so maybe set that aside for windows if posible
[11:41] <murphylan1> oCean: what can i do?
[11:41] <oCean> murphylan1: have a look in /var/log/mysql/error.log why it does not start
[11:41] <jiltdil> how to acess windows file from ubuntu ?
[11:41] <truepurple> sarcarlson: I do not understand, are you speaking of a mounting point option? I don't see that listed
[11:42] <sacarlson> truepurple: I would think it must be operator error that causes problems when windows attempts to install to other partitons.  many will tell you to install windows first, and I would agree,  it's easy for me to add ubuntu to a windows box, not easy for me to add windows to a ubuntu box
[11:43] <jiltdil> !samba
[11:43] <SnowmanX11> jiltdil: mount the ntfs drive to your filesystem temporary (mount) or constans (fstab)
[11:43] <truepurple> Well I need to install ubuntu first
[11:43] <ZULO> any1 can help me with dhcp client problem?'
[11:43] <sacarlson> truepurple: I run all my windows these days in virtualbox and don't even have dual boot any more
[11:43] <SnowmanX11> jiltdil: if it is on another machine: samba
[11:43] <Ti-Tw> I'm trying to play Minecraft, but it won't load. All I get is a black screen. I've found people with the same problem and the solution is always "get sun-java6-plugin". My computer is using AMD64 and Ubuntu Software Center tells me theres not a sun-java6-plugin for AMD64. How can I fix this problem? I'm using the IcedTea plugin right now
[11:43] <murphylan1> oCean:
[11:43] <murphylan1> 110321 10:47:26 [Note] Plugin 'FEDERATED' is disabled.
[11:43] <murphylan1> 110321 10:47:27  InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 44233
[11:44] <SnowmanX11> jiltdil: if it is a same (e.g. dualboot) than my first line
[11:44] <murphylan1> oCean: Version: '5.1.41-3ubuntu12.10'  socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'  port: 3306  (Ubuntu)
[11:44] <jiltdil> snowmanx11: to acess file from other computer having window i have to first install samba on ubuntu and is there any criteria that should be on that window machine?
[11:45] <oCean> murphylan1: does the socket file exist? "ls -al /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock"
[11:45] <kz3> guys how can i run windows application on ubuntu?
[11:45] <karlheg> Ti-Tw: You have to add partner repository for Maverick, IIRC.
[11:45] <ruan> kz3: wine
[11:45] <ruan> !wine | kz3
[11:46] <ZULO> who can help me with dhcp client problem?
[11:46] <murphylan1> oCean: ls: cannot access /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock: No such file or directory
[11:46] <truepurple> sacarlson: well I will duel boot and need to put ubuntu first. So how should I set up these root file systems?
[11:46] <murphylan1> oCean: no that file
[11:46] <margaret12122121> hi everyone, im having a problem with the java plugin, both sun(oracle) java and openjdk plugin wont run some java applets that just yesterday ran, no updates, i emptied java cache i deleted the home i reinstalled java, for info about the applets please feel free to ask
[11:48] <oCean> murphylan1: in that case, I don't see why the startup scripts says it is running.
[11:48] <huffman> hi all
[11:48] <ZULO> any1 can help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/585834/  ?
[11:49] <pizzas> If I have a folder which is locked where I want to use drush for a site-install of drupal 7 how do I do that? How do I change the permisssions (unlock) a folder in the file system?
[11:49] <Ti-Tw> karlheg: How do I do that?
[11:49] <murphylan1> oCean: While installing the MySQL server, I got the following message popped up.
[11:49] <karlheg> Ti-Tw: Just a sec...
[11:49] <Ti-Tw> karlheg: I'm using 10.04, not 10.10
[11:49] <murphylan1> oCean: An error occurred while setting the password for the MySQL administrative user. This may have happened because the account already has a password, or because of a communication problem with the MySQL server.
[11:50] <sacarlson> truepurple: what are the systems usage plans?  what is the 2 tb disk space going to be used for?  for me I would have sda1 = 20 gig , for windows, sda2 = 20 gig spare, sda3 = 8 gid swap, sda4 = root "/" the rest or maybe save for extension so others can be added later
[11:50] <rusty149> ZULO: Are you trying to make a wireless connection without network-manager?
[11:50] <margaret12122121> please anyone?
[11:50] <murphylan1> oCean: You should check the account’s password after the package installation.Please read the /usr/share/doc/mysql-server-5.1/README.Debian file for more information.
[11:50] <oCean> murphylan1: yes, that is all clear to me
[11:50] <karlheg> Ti-Tw: http://www.clickonf5.org/linux/how-install-sun-java-ubuntu-1004-lts/7777
[11:50] <oCean> murphylan1: your mysql sever is not running, but I don't see why your upstart scripts says it is
[11:51] <pizzas> How do you turn of write protection on folders and files?
[11:51] <murphylan1> oCean: you can let me do what you want, I follow you
[11:51] <pizzas> turn off
[11:51] <sacarlson> truepurple: but that's just because I don't use windows and would only use it for experiments,  maybe windows is your primary usage?
[11:51] <zxiest> how can I create/delete users?
[11:51] <ortsvorsteher> pizzas, you can use chmod. try the manpage
[11:52] <ortsvorsteher> zxiest, with useradd and userdel command.
[11:52] <karlheg> pizzas: Right-click from Nautilus file manager and you'll see a tab that lets you set those permissions... or, open a terminal and type: man chmod
[11:52] <zxiest> ortsvorsteher thanks :-)
[11:52] <ortsvorsteher> yw :)
[11:52] <margaret12122121> hi everyone, im having a problem with the java plugin, both sun(oracle) java and openjdk plugin wont run some java applets that just yesterday ran, no updates, i emptied java cache i deleted the home i reinstalled java, for info about the applets please feel free to ask
[11:53] <karlheg> zxiest: There's a tool in the System -> Administration menu.
[11:53] <zxiest> karlheg I'm using ssh...
[11:53] <mrdeb> what's the difference between kword and openoffice writer
[11:54] <ansh> Install button is missing from Ubuntu Software Center
[11:54] <karlheg> zxiest: So you need to use the chmod command.
[11:54] <ansh> http://imagebin.org/144986
[11:54] <ansh> http://imagebin.org/144986
[11:54] <FloodBot3> ansh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:54] <Guest39460> margaret12122121 what's your problem??
[11:54] <Guest39460> the pages with java doesn't run?
[11:54] <karlheg> info coreutils 'chmod invocation'
[11:54] <murphylan1> oCean: how can I run the mysql-server
[11:55] <creat0r> I followed 2 tutorial similar to this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236093 but non of them worked. somebody help me to setup bind9 and give my ip a doamin name
[11:55] <zxiest> karlheg thanks :-)
[11:56] <margaret12122121> guest39460: here one http://www.virtualnes.com/play/?id=NES-VU&s=3
[11:56] <Guest39460> ok
[11:57] <Guest39460> open your browser in the terminal
[11:57] <murphylan1> oCean: my error as seem as this url:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql/223357
[11:57] <inckie> is there a way i can force a specific res? If i start my mediacenter while the TV is off, the res i at it's lowest
[11:57] <Guest39460> and open that page
[11:57] <ZULO> any1 can help me with dhcp client error please?
[11:57] <sacarlson> creat0r: is your wan address static also?
[11:57] <decimo> ¨
[11:57] <margaret12122121> guest39460: then what?
[11:58] <creat0r> sacarlson: yes i have static ip
[11:58] <v_v> murphylan1: mysqld is not ruunig
[11:58] <v_v> murphylan1: sorry,   running
[11:58] <sacarlson> creat0r: you don't use a adsl box or you have a contract with your ISP for this?
[11:58] <baldaris> hey guys new to ubunut , I am trying to log into Windows based VPS ..What can i use something similar to remore desktop in windows?
[11:58] <murphylan1> v_v: can you help me, how can I do ir
[11:58] <ikonia> baldaris: ubuntu has a remote desktop client
[11:58] <murphylan1> v_v: how can I do it?
[11:59] <v_v> murphylan1: check the mysqld log, and maybe something is wrong
[11:59] <oCean> v_v: yes, we have esablished that, but the upstart script says it is running, and not (re)starting the mysqld process
[11:59] <truepurple> sacarlson: well I will duel boot and need to put ubuntu first. So how should I set up these root file systems? (lost internet connection)
[11:59] <Guest39460> then copy here what appears in the terminal
[11:59] <margaret12122121> guest39460: nothing lol
[11:59] <murphylan1> v_v: root      2475  0.0  0.0   7624   928 pts/0    S+   19:57   0:00 grep --color=auto mysqld
[11:59] <margaret12122121> guest39460: did you mean "copy the java console output"
[11:59] <baldaris> ikonia, are you talking about one  in preferences remote desktop that isnt working
[11:59] <Guest39460> copy the text
[11:59] <margaret12122121> ?
[11:59] <Guest39460> no
[12:00] <v_v> murphylan1: i mean the mysqld log. it should be /var/log/mysqld something like that
[12:00] <margaret12122121> guest39460: $ firefox
[12:00] <Guest39460> the text that appears in the terminal
[12:00] <Guest39460> yes
[12:00] <ikonia> baldaris: why isn't it working
[12:00] <Guest39460> and then?
[12:00] <margaret12122121> guest39460: thats all i have in my cli
[12:00] <Guest39460> only?
[12:00] <ZULO> why dhcpclient says me that DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14?
[12:00] <margaret12122121> guest39460: ye
[12:00] <sacarlson> truepurple: did you get this? ruepurple: what are the systems usage plans?  what is the 2 tb disk space going to be used for?  for me I would have sda1 = 20 gig , for windows, sda2 = 20 gig spare, sda3 = 8 gid swap, sda4 = root "/" the rest or maybe save for extension so others can be added later
[12:00] <Guest39460> thats extrange
[12:00] <murphylan1> v_v: /var/log/mysql/error.log
[12:00] <Dinux_> hi there , i have problem with wine
[12:01] <Guest39460> do you have java plugin and jdk plugin installed??
[12:01] <baldaris> ikonia, it works but i think its for sharing my screen with others..I want to loginto a remote desktop(VPS) located else where
[12:01] <v_v> murphylan1: anything found in it ?
[12:01] <Guest39460> i think, you only need one of them
[12:01] <v_v> Dinux_: what's wrong ?
[12:01] <margaret12122121> Guest39460: yep, yesterday it worked too, today  i retried both with openjdk and sun java, another java app works but this doesnt anymore
[12:01] <|Long|> good morning have anyone here used crypt script?
[12:01] <ansh> Install button is missing from Ubuntu Software Center
[12:01] <pizzas> kcarlheg ortsvorsteher learning how to use the command line is a steep and difficult learning curve! sigh
[12:01] <Guest39460> mmm
[12:01] <Dinux_> v_v : when i want to uninstall a program , it doesnt do it !
[12:01] <Guest39460> try this page
[12:02] <v_v> oCean: ;-) maybe we need to take a look at the log
[12:02] <Guest39460> also run with javaa
[12:02] <creat0r> sacarlson: we have a contract with vodafone they give us about 19 static ip address
[12:02] <Guest39460> http://www.knuddels.de/index.html?v=90adb&c=0
[12:02] <oCean> v_v: we did. The thing is upstart keeps saying it is running, while it is not. There is no process, and no socket file
[12:02] <margaret12122121> guest39460: works
[12:02] <v_v> Dinux_: did you got any error messages >
[12:02] <MaterMorbi> can someone give me an information?
[12:02] <truepurple> Sacarlson No I didn't get that, I plan to use this system for movies, games, etc. I don't see any special usage that would make any particular dictations on partitioning
[12:02] <Guest39460> mmm
[12:02] <Guest39460> i dont understand xd
[12:03] <Guest39460> why lol
[12:03] <Dinux_> v_v : no
[12:03] <margaret12122121> guest39460: by the way, u got me in a flirt chat of some kind? lol i read flirt
[12:03] <v_v> Dinux_: maybe you can just delete the dir where the program is
[12:03] <Guest39460> ahah
[12:03] <Guest39460> in a german chat
[12:03] <sacarlson> creat0r: ok then the only problem I see is you need two different dns one for the wan side and the other for inside,  I use bind9 for my internal network and everydns.com for outside.
[12:03] <v_v> Dinux_: usually it's in your home ./wine
[12:03] <truepurple> What is sda1. sda2 etc?
[12:03] <Dinux_> v_v : is it safe to do this ?
[12:04] <Guest39460> to practice german haha
[12:04] <v_v> oCean: that may happen, i guess the script check the pid file to see if it's running
[12:04] <v_v> Dinux_: not all the .wine
[12:04] <truepurple> Sacarlson: What is sda1. sda2 etc?
[12:04] <sacarlson> creat0r: but since you have a static ip I guess you could be your own dns server for both sides but the problem I see is the the ip are still different
[12:04] <MaterMorbi> will i lose windows files that are positioned at the end of the disk when i resize my hd while installing ubuntu?
[12:04] <Dinux_> v_v : thank you
[12:04] <v_v> Dinux_: find the dir where just the program is , you can mv it to another place first
[12:04] <murphylan> v_v: I have send the message to you.
[12:04] <oCean> v_v: is there a pid file? I figured it checked the socket file (which is not there)
[12:05] <LjL> MaterMorbi: no, they get moved (but of course it would be best to have a backup just in case it goes wrong)
[12:05] <creat0r> sacarlson: what ip u mean are different ?
[12:05] <v_v> oCean: some daemons write pid files
[12:05] <sacarlson> creat0r: oh I assumed you still went through a nat on your internal network from what I saw in the link but maybe you don't?
[12:05] <MaterMorbi> hmm... it will be quite hard to make a backup and store it somewhere... anyway thanks for the info.
[12:05] <MaterMorbi> damn notebook XD
[12:06] <v_v> oCean: usually in /var/run/xxx.pid
[12:06] <oCean> v_v: yeah I know
[12:08] <creat0r> sacarlson: No i don't
[12:08] <truepurple> sacarlson: ?
[12:08] <sacarlson> creat0r: ok cool then we can setup your bind9 as your internal and external dns
[12:08] <creat0r> sacarlson: how i tried couple how to but no way
[12:09] <sacarlson> truepurple: yes that's my name don't ware it out
[12:09] <truepurple> acarlson: What is sda1. sda2 etc?
[12:09] <murphylan> Hi oCean
[12:09] <murphylan> oCean: are you there
[12:09] <LjL> truepurple: partitions on your first hard drive
[12:09] <ruan> how can i find out if my external ip is my ip?
[12:09] <Laurenceb> hi, i want to backup a fat32 formatted drive
[12:09] <sacarlson> truepurple: those are partition names /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2  they maybe named /dev/sdb1 .... on your system?
[12:09] <Laurenceb> am i pest using something like clonezilla?
[12:10] <v_v> ruan: vist a web site which can tell you your ip
[12:10] <D_rouille> .
[12:10] <ruan> v_v: is that my real ip though?
[12:10] <v_v> ruan: what do you mean, real
[12:10] <truepurple> Sacarlson: partition names don't have a effect on anything. You mean mounting point names?
[12:10] <ruan> v_v: well, how can i verify that
[12:11] <v_v> ruan: i don't get 'that'
[12:11] <murphylan> oCean: I run apt-get autoremove mysql-server , then run apt-get install mysql-server , it is stop at 'setting up mysql-server-5.1.41-3ubuntu12.10'...
[12:11] <ruan> v_v: i want to check whether that ip is truly my external ip
[12:11] <sacarlson> truepurple: I gave them names and purpuse it's up to you where you want to put them
[12:12] <murphylan> v_v: I run apt-get autoremove mysql-server , then run apt-get install mysql-server , it is stop at 'setting up mysql-server-5.1.41-3ubuntu12.10'...
[12:12] <sacarlson> truepurple: you may have also noticed I gave them size
[12:12] <v_v> ruan: ip protocol, an ip packet holds the source ip which usually is your ip
[12:12] <niko-nojo> Hi room - has anyone got any experience of installing Twiki 5.01 on Ubuntu 10.04. I'm really struggling with the apache configuration part of it. I've spent a day trying to resolve it but I'm stuck and very frustrated :(
[12:12] <peta> hello everybody
[12:12] <v_v> murphylan: any error message
[12:12] <truepurple> Sacarlson: You said 20gb spare partition, why?
[12:12] <murphylan> v_v: no message
[12:13] <bonez2046> how can I change the login delay at the initial login screen? If I get my password wrong, takes literally 4 minutes before it will let me enter the password again
[12:13] <v_v> murphylan: so the apt doesn't return ?
[12:13] <murphylan> v_v: yes
[12:13] <sacarlson> truepurple: as I said before to install without a livecd, I do expeiments like that and when I install new system I like a fall back
[12:13] <murphylan> v_v: it stop
[12:14] <murphylan> v_v: it stop at setting up....
[12:14] <truepurple> What mounting point options should I use for each of them? Like what mounting point option should I use for the one meant for windows?
[12:14] <sacarlson> creat0r: that link looked good I'm not sure what your problem might be, did you assign your registry to the dns?
[12:14] <v_v> murphylan: is your mysqld running
[12:14] <murphylan> v_v: yes, it is running
[12:15] <raylee> ok
[12:15] <tstaerk> hi, what is Ubuntu's default umts connection program?
[12:15] <v_v> murphylan: can you stop it ?
[12:15] <sacarlson> creat0r: was the problem you have on the internal network or external?
[12:15] <tstaerk> I found it is the only one working for me
[12:15] <murphylan> v_v: i try it
[12:15] <creat0r> sacarlson: my ip address already has a host name
[12:15] <truepurple> sacarlson: What mounting point options should I use for each of them? Like what mounting point option should I use for the one meant for windows?
[12:15] <ruan> bonez2046: that's a security measure. though you can try to not get your password wrong
[12:16] <sacarlson> truepurple: the only mount point you need for ubuntu is root /
[12:16] <peta> i got a remote machine based on 10.04. during the the last days i set it up, did finetuning and securing. now i want to "clone" the system, transfer the image via ssh to my local machine and use it in a virtual machine. the remote machine has has a 2x750gb RAID1 setup. the problem is that i only want to "clone" the actual os files (users,groups,packages, settings, asf.) without the grub settings, so that i can just copy the image to my v
[12:16] <peta> without a neat. which solutions would you suggest? 
[12:16] <zxiest[a]> how can I elevate my permissions and not have to type sudo with every command?
[12:16] <bonez2046> ruan: so are you saying, the time period there can't be changed?
[12:16] <ruan> bonez2046: it could be changable. im not sure how though
[12:16] <truepurple> Sacarlson: What about the one for windows?
[12:16] <Dinux_> hi , i am still having a problem with wine , i have to programs i installed from wine , but when i want to uninstall these programs , it doesnt do it
[12:16] <ruan> zxiest[a]: sudo -i
[12:16] <zxiest[a]> ruan thanks :-)
[12:17] <tstaerk> Dinux_, make sure you also ask at #wine
[12:17] <bonez2046> ruan: it's a mystery....
[12:17] <sacarlson> truepurple: you can auto mount it at boot normally it will be automounted at /media/???
[12:18] <cjae> I have two directories that are on an smb share, is there anyway to see the two directories as one?
[12:18] <truepurple> Sacarlson: I didn't understand that, are you saying windows will change any mounting point options to what it will need at that time?
[12:19] <cjae> on a *
[12:19] <sacarlson> truepurple: we are talking about ubuntu mount points not windows,
[12:19] <peta> cjae: do their imemdiate sub-directories/-files change?
[12:19] <ruan> hmm. my glcells screensaver isnt working as expected
[12:19] <ruan> when the cells reach the end of the screen, it restarts from one cell :c
[12:20] <truepurple> Sacarlson: We are talking about both, I am duel booting remember?
[12:20] <sacarlson> truepurple: ubuntu will auto detect any disks it see's on the system at boot and if you setup your user with privliges will allow them to auto mount them
[12:20] <cjae> peta: not sure what you mean?
[12:21] <sacarlson> truepurple: when windows install you will have to know where you want to install it that's why I gave you names /dev/sda1 that will be it's root and the only partition that it will see
[12:21] <truepurple> Sacarlson: I don't understand.
[12:22] <sacarlson> truepurple: well I don't know the names that windows uses so you will have to look up windows install elsewhere
[12:22] <truepurple> Sacarlson: Name labels on partitions have no effect on anything, right?
[12:23] <peta> cjae: look, you could exclude those two folders from being shared/publicly visible and instead create an additional empty dir, and put hard links from all of your two dirs  immediately sub-directories/-fiolders into it.
[12:23] <sacarlson> truepurple: these are not name labels these are partition locations.  have you used fdisk or gparted before?
[12:24] <Laurenceb> can i use dd to copy between two partitions?
[12:24] <sacarlson> truepurple: I'm not sure lables have any effect but uuid does and that's inside the partition after format
[12:24] <Laurenceb> or can it only be used to  copy an entire drive image?
[12:24] <truepurple> I have used fdisk before, but it was a long time ago, I don't remember such a option anyway
[12:25] <cjae> peta: ok I think I got ya thanks
[12:25] <truepurple> sacarlson: I don't understand. So how do I need to set up the partition meant for windows?
[12:26] <sacarlson> truepurple: just leave them unused
[12:26] <sacarlson> truepurple: unformated even better
[12:26] <peta> cjae: but note: files/folders added to the two original folders won't appear automatically inside the newly created "fake-directory"
[12:26] <scarleo> Are there any media players that can be controlled via a remote gui?
[12:26] <erUSUL> !info mdp | scarleo
[12:26] <erUSUL> !info mpd | scarleo
[12:27] <peta> cjae: you either must add links for them manually or setup an inode watcher script that does this automatically
[12:27] <cjae> peta: ok and soft linking wouldnt work?
[12:27] <GenericBox> Would anyone be able to help me with a USB issue?
[12:27] <scarleo> erUSUL: thanks, I'll have a look
[12:27] <peta> cjae: should work too ... just try it
[12:28] <truepurple> scarlson: is it true one can only partition a single hard drive 4 ways?
[12:28] <sacarlson> truepurple: if each of your ip already have a hostname then it seems your almost done.  as my system I just setup so that *.mydomain.com is always the same ip won't that work?
[12:29] <GenericBox> Ubuntu 10.10 (Kernal 28) isn't mounting my USB drive (WD Passport) as of today. And I can't click on "Places" from the desktop. I get this error: "Could not display "computer:". Nautilus cannot handle "computer" locations.
[12:29] <peta> cjae: but wait ... i'm not sure. when their original targets are moved/deleted, they will still exist ... pointing to null. hard links on the other side, will be automatically deleted too, "adapting" their acutal link-target respectively
[12:29] <sacarlson> truepurple: sorry wrong name on that last one
[12:29] <GenericBox> Same happens for Network menu too.
[12:29] <cjae> peta: thanks but the sub-dir and files change so...
[12:30] <sacarlson> creat0r: if each of your ip already have a hostname then it seems your almost done.  as my system I just setup so that *.mydomain.com is always the same ip won't that work?
[12:31] <GenericBox> Can anyone help? ["Could not display "computer:". Nautilus cannot handle "computer" locations.] error and no USB (or Windows HDD) drive mounting.
[12:31] <Goonhost> Test
[12:31] <sacarlson> creat0r: oh I think I remember you want this.domaon.com got to ip1  and that.domain.com goto ip2 ...
[12:31] <Laurenceb> dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/media/external_drive_fat/backup.img
[12:32] <Laurenceb> would that backup an image of a partition?
[12:32] <Laurenceb> as a file on my fat32 formatted external drive
[12:35] <sacarlson> Laurenceb: I've never done it on fat32 but I guess so
[12:35] <sacarlson> Laurenceb: you could test it by trying to mount the image to prove it
[12:35] <Laurenceb> how do i mount an image?
[12:36] <murphylan> Hi all, how to set the root password of mysqlserver?
[12:36] <Laurenceb> i tried using dd on the partitions directly, but that wont work will it?
[12:36] <GenericBox> I just restarted on old kernel and still had the same problem with my USB and Places menu -- can anyone help?
[12:36] <Laurenceb> it has to be over an entire drive?
[12:37] <creat0r> sacarlson:  I want to browse mydomain.com instead of http://ipaddress. which mean when you browse mydomain.com redirect you to my server's ip address
[12:37] <snapp> how do you debug on ubuntu network adapter?
[12:38] <ruan> is it safe to set the fan speed higher?
[12:38] <sacarlson> Laurenceb: sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0 ;sudo losetup  /dev/loop0 $LOOPFILE
[12:38] <Laurenceb> what does that do?
[12:39] <GenericBox> Okay I can still mount my USB and HDD manually and through Disk Util -- but  even when mounted I still cannot access Computer or Places menu items.
[12:40] <GenericBox> [Could not display "computer:".] Nautilus cannot handle "computer" locations.
[12:40] <snapp> how do you debug on ubuntu network adapter?
[12:41] <Ddorda> when Canonical releases Ubuntu usually? (hour)
[12:42] <erUSUL> snapp: define "debug"? it does not work at all? or what?
[12:42] <erUSUL> !details | snapp
[12:42] <ToGeL4119> !topic
[12:42] <Ddorda> ToGeL4119: that was for me?
[12:43] <truepurple> sacarlson: still willing to help me?
[12:43] <ruan> why do i have to remove gtk if i want to remove cups?
[12:43] <ToGeL4119> italiani ?
[12:43] <ToGeL4119> ci sono????
[12:43] <oCean> !it | ToGeL4119
[12:43] <Ddorda> ToGeL4119: non sono italiano ma parlo piu o meno :P
[12:44] <Ddorda> !he
[12:44] <truepurple> May I please get some help with partitioning?
[12:44] <ToGeL4119> Ddorda: pvt plsd
[12:45] <GenericBox> I am using Ubuntu 10.10, this problem occurs on all kernels listed on grub, my devices are not automatically mounting, and when I click "Computer" "Network" or "Trash" from Places or Gnome I get the following error: [Could not display "computer:".] Nautilus cannot handle "computer" locations. Can anyone help?
[12:45] <GenericBox> This has happened since running update.
[12:45] <asmod4n> oh hi, got the following setup on my ubuntu-server, eth1 is connected to my adsl-modem, eth0 is connected to my lan, the adsl-modem also has a wifi AP, how do i have to setup the routing so wifi clients and lan clients can connect to the internet (ppp0)?
[12:46] <asmod4n> do i just have to give eth1 a ip and announce that via dnsmasg?
[12:46] <asmod4n> dnsmasq*
[12:47] <erUSUL> asmod4n:why don't you connect the lan directly to the modem/router/AP?
[12:47] <asmod4n> the router lacks some basic support i need for the clients
[12:49] <cablop> hello people, i have this question, how can i mount a remote directory in both windows and linux and preserve the permissions the folder have in the remote computer?
[12:49] <ruan> why do i have to remove gtk if i want to remove cups core?
[12:50] <erUSUL> asmod4n: just configure the ubuntu server as router. enable ip forwarding and set up the iptables rules
[12:50] <erUSUL> !ics | asmod4n
[12:50] <akagi82> anyone know how to install firmware via telnet in terminal?
[12:50] <cablop> ruan, which gtk? some packages are metapackages
[12:50] <ruan> cablop: gtk2
[12:51] <truepurple> May I please have some help setting up partitions?
[12:51] <jrib> truepurple: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[12:51] <cablop> ruan, check the package, you can check if this is just a metapackage, if thatś the case you can safely remove cups, but if it's not then better to keep the package and find a way to disable it
[12:52] <liminal_> Hello I have a visual problem with ubuntu, for some reason my screenout seems to have turned monochrome or nightview
[12:52] <truepurple> Its too complicated to ask on a single line, and Id hate to have to write a long thing without knowing if anyone is listening
[12:52] <ruan> cablop: i have it disabled, but it's wasting hdd space
[12:53] <liminal_> I think i activated by mistake with athe keyboard
[12:53] <jrib> truepurple: well think of it this way.  Suppose someone had said "sure, I don't know if I can help you but if you tell me what you are trying to do then I might be able to".  What would your next line be?  Say that :)
[12:53] <cbkia> I was installing Ubuntu.. But it' stuck at 80% (Configuring target system) for over half an hour.. .Is my installed screwed ????
[12:53] <MnCC> is it possible to make packages without source code ?
[12:53] <truepurple> I would explain the issue
[12:53] <jrib> MnCC: sure see the nvidia drivers for example
[12:54] <pizzas> are there any drush users here?
[12:54] <jrib> MnCC: or flash
[12:54] <cbkia> cbkia: Shld i restart and try again
[12:54] <jrib> pizzas: #drupal-support is probably a better place for that
[12:54] <pizzas> thanks jrib
[12:54] <MnCC> jrib: thanks, got rid of transmission, going to build a uTorrent package =)
[12:54] <liminal_> does anyone know what the shortcut key for nightview is in ubuntu?
[12:55] <cbkia> I was installing Ubuntu.. But it' stuck at 80% (Configuring target system) for over half an hour.. .Is my installed screwed ????
[12:55] <symptom> How are ATI drivers for Ubuntu these days.  It has been a while since I have built a box with an ATI card in it?
[12:55] <jrib> truepurple: yes, do that.  Do it one line and add relevant details/logs in a pastebin
[12:55] <gopper> Is there a global-menu support for KDE applications under ubuntu 10.04?
[12:56] <cablop> C and D exist in server, but are not part of music group
[12:56] <cbkia> C'mon folks....... I was installing Ubuntu.. But it' stuck at 80% (Configuring target system) for over half an hour.. .Is my installed screwed ????
[12:57] <cablop> ruan, dd is not a hard issue except if you are running a very limited device
[12:57] <jrib> cbkia: did you run "check the cd for defects" before performing the install?
[12:57] <ruan> cablop: my hdd is 80gb
[12:57] <symptom> cbkia, Might be your HDD
[12:58] <cablop> ruan, i meant hard disk space of ubuntu packages is rarely a big issue, anyway you can do a sudo apt-get autoremove in the command line to delete the unused packages
[12:58] <symptom> cbkia, it also depends on your system. did you check the install disc before running it?
[12:58] <cbkia> symptom: I too think soo.... Is there any tool, which can identify which part of my HDD is spoilt
[12:59] <scarleo> liminal_: I don't think there is one by default but you can set it up with ccsm
[12:59] <_antant_> can someone point me in the direction of a guide on inserting a driver into a custom kernel? I've got a driver that in ubuntu I have to make & make install, but I want to insert it into a kernel
[12:59] <symptom> cbkia, spinrite is regarded as one of the best
[13:00] <symptom> it is $75 one time
[13:00] <symptom> and you own it forever
[13:00] <liminal_> scarleo I have activated one by default!
[13:00] <liminal_> I need to turn the dam thing off
[13:00] <symptom> cbkia, or you could run fsck for free but it wont necessarily fix your disk
[13:00] <symptom> How are ATI drivers for Ubuntu these days.  It has been a while since I have built a box with an ATI card in it?
[13:01] <bittin> Hello there, do there exist any last.fm plugins for audacious?
[13:01] <scarleo> liminal_: ok, never heard of. You haven't accidentally just switched theme or something?
[13:01] <cbkia> symptom: Yeah, i tried running.. But it returned it as CLEAN
[13:01] <_antant_> symptom: no vdpau, like nvidia have, but it did me ok
[13:02] <GenericBox> I am using Ubuntu 10.10, this problem occurs on all kernels listed on grub, my devices are not automatically mounting, and when I click "Computer" "Network" or "Trash" from Places or Gnome I get the following error: [Could not display "computer:".] Nautilus cannot handle "computer" locations. Can anyone help?
[13:02] <symptom> !vdpau
[13:02] <symptom> ?
[13:02] <_antant_> hardware 3d acceleration I believe
[13:02] <scarleo> liminal_: or maybe one of the accessibility features?
[13:03] <scarleo> liminal_: you can see all your keyboard shortcuts in system->prefs->Keyboard shortcuts
[13:03] <divamiller> need some help
[13:03] <borillion> can someone explain to me what a "I still all "gEDA" stuff under a "geda" prefix" means ?
[13:03] <divamiller> how do you tell whether you are using the 64 bit version of ubuntu or the 32 bit
[13:04] <divamiller> anyone?
[13:04] <ajianghan> who?
[13:04] <Pumpkin-> divamiller: "uname -m"
[13:04] <divamiller> diva@diva:~$ uname -m
[13:04] <divamiller> i686
[13:04] <divamiller> so it means?
[13:04] <Pumpkin-> 32bit then
[13:05] <divamiller> is there a way to upgrade to 64 bit without losing my current data and settings?\
[13:05] <downloadSSH> hello
[13:05] <avo> hi
[13:05] <truepurple> Can one set up extended logical partitions under unetbootin partitioning?
[13:05] <_antant_> Pumpkin: could you point me in the direction of a guide on inserting a driver into a custom kernel? I've got a driver that in ubuntu I have to make & make install, but I want to insert it into a kernel
[13:05] <downloadSSH> How can I download a file from a remote computer via SSH?
[13:05] <borillion> divamiller: you can do a dual install it should bring them over
[13:06] <gopper> Is there a global-menu support for KDE applications under ubuntu 10.04?
[13:06] <borillion> It gives you the option
[13:06] <symptom> divamiller, yes if your OS is installed on a separate partition as your /home
[13:06] <divamiller> so there is no easy way?
[13:06] <divamiller> dammit
[13:06] <borillion> so nobody knows what prefix means?
[13:07] <Pumpkin-> _antant: if you have produced a .ko file, I think you want to check out "modprobe" or "insmod" to actually load the module.
[13:07] <bonjoyee> downloadSSH: use scp, rsync or sftp..
[13:07] <avo> barillion thats something that can easily be looked up on the net
[13:07] <borillion> avo I wouldn't come here lol if I could not find it
[13:07] <borillion> :D
[13:07] <truepurple> an one set up extended logical partitions under unetbootin partitioning?
[13:07] <divamiller> then i need some help in creating a live usb in ubuntu
[13:08] <avo> my mistake then
[13:08] <avo> im a noob
[13:08] <divamiller> i don't know
[13:08] <borillion> divamiller what os are you running
[13:08] <divamiller> ubuntu
[13:08] <divamiller> 10.10
[13:08] <cbkia> symptom: Spinrite have to pay moolah issit... http://www.grc.com/spinrite.htm
[13:08] <divamiller> 32 bit
[13:08] <divamiller> want to switch to 64 bit
[13:08] <divamiller> so i can install a 8gb of ram
[13:08] <divamiller> in my alienware m11x r2
[13:09] <symptom> cbkia, yup.  but it will fix your drive and recover your data, and you own it forever
[13:09] <divamiller> ?
[13:09] <borillion> divamiller: download the iso for the usb disk you want to make, and then use the disk utility under administration
[13:09] <_antant> Cheers Pumpkin-, so it's a .ko file I need to make
[13:09] <divamiller> disk utilty
[13:09] <borillion> divamiller: all you have to do is provide it with the iso of the 64 bit os
[13:10] <divamiller> i have ubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64.iso in my hdd
[13:10] <borillion> divamiller: I mean Startup Disk Creator :D
[13:10] <divamiller> done
[13:11] <jrib> cbkia: what is that you want to do?
[13:11] <borillion> divamiller then all you have to do is reboot with the flash drive in usb
[13:11] <borillion> and tell the bios to start off it
[13:11] <divamiller> what
[13:11] <truepurple> Can one set up extended logical partitions under unetbootin partitioning?
[13:11] <divamiller> what do i do with make startup disk
[13:12] <divamiller> i only have a 32 bit ubuntu on my live usb
[13:12] <borillion> divamiller: insert the usb, choose it as the disk to use and then tell it where to load the iso from by clicking other
[13:13] <divamiller> i have erase my live usb
[13:13] <divamiller> what should i do next
[13:13] <tortukitu> Hi all, I am trying to test a buffer overflow on a simple application on Ubuntu
[13:13] <tortukitu> Bat it strangely fails
[13:13] <borillion> divamiller: did you load the iso?
[13:13] <divamiller> i did
[13:14] <tortukitu> Did someone here already tested buffer overflows on Ubuntu ?
[13:14] <borillion> divamiller: then just click "make startup disk"
[13:14] <divamiller> the option is black out
[13:14] <avo> -ping
[13:14] <truepurple> jrib: Can one set up extended logical partitions under unetbootin partitioning?
[13:15] <divamiller> got it
[13:15] <borillion> divamiller: kk
[13:15] <divamiller> one sec
[13:15] <divamiller> i am uploading the pic of it
[13:15] <borillion> divamiller: just do a dualboot setup copy your important stuff and then erase the old ubuntu
[13:16] <divamiller> http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x196/zerobinary/Screenshot-1-1.png
[13:16] <cg2916> I can't boot into ubuntu
[13:16] <cg2916> i get stuck on the grub command line
[13:16] <divamiller> how much storage should i set
[13:17] <GothCC> Is there some kind of document about the Ubuntu Menu Editing. I've tried numerous times to add xmms2 to it, but when I try to launch it nothing happens
[13:17] <borillion> divamiller: are you going to simply install from the flash drive to your pc, or are you going to run ubuntu off your flash drive all the time?
[13:17] <divamiller> simply install from the flash drive
[13:17] <borillion> divamiller: if your just going to install ubuntu to your pc you dont need any
[13:17] <cg2916> can anyone help me?
[13:18] <borillion> cg2916: do you have a ubuntu disk?
[13:18] <cg2916> cg2916: flash drive, yes
[13:18] <ikonia> GothCC: xmms2 is a server, not a client
[13:18] <divamiller> no
[13:18] <divamiller> my notebook does not have a cd drom
[13:19] <haqe17> !grub | cg2916
[13:19] <haqe17> cg2916: just try reinstalling grub with the live cd/usb
[13:19] <cg2916> haqe17: i have grub 1.98
[13:20] <davidisko> hi guys, can't find dmcrypt setup for drives in  ubuntu 10.10 installer (ubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64)
[13:20] <bittin> Hello, somone knows how to get audacious 2.3 to scrobble?
[13:20] <divamiller> i wish there is a simple to switch to 64 bit without having to reinstall every apps
[13:20] <haqe17> cg2916: thats grub2
[13:20] <davidisko> am i missing something?
[13:20] <ikonia> divamiller: there isn't
[13:21] <divamiller> there is
[13:21] <ikonia> davidisko: I believe you'll need to use the alternative install for that (not %100 sure)
[13:21] <ikonia> divamiller: oh, please tell me how to convert a 32bit box to a 64bit without an install
[13:21] <ikonia> divamiller: I'd love to hear there
[13:21] <borillion> divamiller: really if there is I would like to know also
[13:21] <ikonia> borillion: there isn't
[13:21] <divamiller> lol
[13:22] <ikonia> divamiller: please explain how you do it
[13:22] <davidisko> ikonia: i'll try in a second...
[13:22] <divamiller> that sux
[13:22] <ikonia> divamiller: you said there is a way, lets hear it
[13:23] <borillion> ikonia: I know :D
[13:23] <divamiller> i never say there is a way
[13:23] <borillion> ikonia: come on be nice
[13:23] <divamiller> i thought there is a way and i have no idea how to do it
[13:23] <ikonia> divamiller: 13:21 < divamiller> there is
[13:23] <ikonia> divamiller: I told you there wasn't a way, you then said "there is"
[13:23] <borillion> ikonia: virtual machine it LOL
[13:24] <gopper> Is there a global-menu support for KDE applications under ubuntu 10.04?
[13:24] <ikonia> borillion: still needs a reinstall or initial install
[13:24] <GothCC> ikonia: what was the 'client' it used to use by default? Back when I used *nix before I never had to specify a client
[13:24] <divamiller> whatever that's gay
[13:24] <borillion> ikonia: I know that LOL, I was kidding
[13:24] <ikonia> GothCC: xmms (client,) changed when xmms2 was written to a client server model
[13:25] <borillion> divamiller: you would be surprised lol, XP runs better in a vitual machine that it does on hardware HEHEHE
[13:25] <ikonia> divamiller: please don't use gay as derogatory, and please don't say things are possible that you know are not
[13:25] <oCean> divamiller: don't use such language here
[13:25] <yeats> divamiller: you can do 'dpkg --get-selections' to record your current packages
[13:25] <avo> ikonia, nothing is impossible
[13:25] <borillion> yeats:Not a bad idea
[13:26] <root1> фынапзщх
[13:26] <ikonia> avo: please don't be silly, you can't upgrade a 32bit system to a 64bit system
[13:26] <cg2916> haqe17: can't get it to work
[13:26] <yeats> divamiller: do 'dkpg --get-selections >> my-packages' copy the 'my-packages' file to external media, then do 'sudo dpkg --set-selections my-packages' after reinstalling 64-bit
[13:27] <divamiller> i type dpkg --get-selections in the terminal
[13:27] <divamiller> and there is a huge list popping up
[13:27] <cg2916> i can't get on ubuntu, i get stuck on grub
[13:27] <IdleOne> divamiller: dkpg --get-selections >> my-packages
[13:27] <divamiller> whatever forget about it
[13:27] <borillion> I can think of several ways to try but it would be ugly, I dont know if they would work, and its not exactly an upgrade
[13:27] <yeats> divamiller: right - that's your list of all installed software (that you installed with APT)
[13:28] <IdleOne> divamiller: then entire line is the command
[13:28] <avo> is the irc showing out ip's?
[13:28] <borillion> divamiller: just email it to yourself
[13:28] <haqe17> cg2916: u could try booting ubuntu from the grub cmd, but that wouldnt fix the problem
[13:28] <ruan> avo: it does, if you're not registered with a cloak
[13:28] <divamiller> i will just use a flash install
[13:28] <divamiller> too complicated
[13:28] <yeats> divamiller: it's actually very simple
[13:28] <divamiller> the irony is that i have been using ubuntu since grade 8
[13:28] <haqe17> cg2916: something like:  linux /boot/vmlinuz ro
[13:29] <cg2916_> i can't get on ubuntu
[13:29] <divamiller> and i have not mastered it
[13:29] <divamiller> lol
[13:29] <steve0hhii> It's earth hour!!!
[13:29] <cg2916_> i get stuck on grub
[13:29] <ruan> orly
[13:29] <divamiller> earth hour
[13:29] <cg2916_> can anybody help me?
[13:29] <avo> hmm, why does it that do? isn't that bad for us?
[13:29] <divamiller> what about mars hour
[13:29] <divamiller> doom?
[13:29] <divamiller> anyone
[13:29] <IdleOne> !ot
[13:29] <cg2916_> haqe17: i don't know my x,y
[13:29] <DirtyDawg>  avo just get a cloak
[13:29] <DirtyDawg> they be free
[13:29] <ruan> avo: ask in #freenode, i did that and got a cloak shortly afterwards
[13:29] <steve0hhii> :(
[13:30] <divamiller> i wish alienware m11x r2 is fully supported by ubuntu
[13:30] <GothCC> ikonia: ahhh, I see... well that would make sense then. I wonder what client there is that looks like the old 'xmms'
[13:30] <ruan> avo: remember you need to be registered first
[13:30] <divamiller> too bad oem does not like linux
[13:30] <ikonia> divamiller: complain to alienware,
[13:30] <ikonia> GothCC: as I recall, its very similar
[13:30] <cg2916_> hello?
[13:30] <ikonia> GothCC: not used it in a long time
[13:30] <cg2916_> how do i figure out my hdX,Y
[13:30] <divamiller> i know
[13:31] <divamiller> is there any linux friendly oem notebook?
[13:31] <avo> ok, im a total noob, i guess the reason im asking is because i want to better understand why it does this. i have nothing valubal to protect on this machine anyways, but thats for the sugestion
[13:31] <avo> thanks*
[13:31] <truepurple> Can different linux distros on the same hard drive, share the same swap partition?
[13:31] <ikonia> divamiller: generic linux stuff, try asking in ##linux
[13:31] <ikonia> truepurple: yes
[13:32] <divamiller> is there a way to install a hdd lock in a fresh install of ubuntu
[13:32] <divamiller> ?
[13:32] <divamiller> kind of like the one in fedora
[13:32] <ikonia> hdd lock ?
[13:32] <IdleOne> bios password
[13:32] <divamiller> not bios password
[13:32] <truepurple> ikonia Can the swap partition be a logistical partition on extended?
[13:32] <ikonia> truepurple: yes
[13:32] <SwedeMike> truepurple: it can be anything, even a file.
[13:33] <divamiller> i mean in fedora you have two password to login into the linux
[13:33] <avo> does an ip cloak apply to all of my connections or just the irc?
[13:33] <divamiller> itself it there a way to do it on ubuntu as well?
[13:33] <ikonia> avo: ask in #freenode
[13:33] <ikonia> divamiller: disk encyption is an obvious "lock" option
[13:33] <divamiller> or triple des login?
[13:33] <KillGuta> Is there any way to "reload the firmware" list or something like that?
[13:33] <ikonia> KillGuta: the firmware list ?
[13:33] <divamiller> how do i do a disk encyption
[13:33] <truepurple> Swedemike: I was told that the swap space had to have its own partion, specifically can not be on the same partition space as the OS, are you saying this is wrong?
[13:33] <avo> #freenode
[13:34] <ikonia> truepurple: very wrong
[13:34] <KillGuta> ikonia, installed the firmware for wireless card, but it's still not working
[13:34] <KillGuta> and I can't restart since it's live cd
[13:34] <kellnola_> truepurple, linux can use swap files, it does have to be a partition at all
[13:35] <snapp> Correction: when I connect to the server via ssh, after entering the
[13:35] <snapp> username, the connection to the server goes down and the network card eth0 is no longer pingabile, but the server can ping the client.
[13:35] <snapp> I have two network cards, eht1 who has never had any problems, while eth0 from the problem described above. Trying another client gets the same problem, and that means' once you have inserted username, you log off
[13:35] <FloodBot3> snapp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:35] <symptom> Ok, This might not be the right channel to ask, but does anyone have any experience using nvidia optimus with linux, and getting the nvidia card running instead of the intel card?
[13:35] <divamiller> is there a way to setup a triple des login in ubuntu 10.10
[13:36] <ikonia> symptom: just disable the intel card in your bios
[13:36] <symptom> ikonia, have you done this?
[13:36] <ikonia> symptom: very similar
[13:36] <divamiller> ooo i need the alternative install disk
[13:36] <truepurple> kellnola_: sure without a shadow of a doubt?
[13:36] <yeats> !alternate | divamiller
[13:37] <Cube``> test
[13:37] <kellnola_> truepurple, yes, since I've used them many times
[13:37] <divamiller> is alternate hard to install
[13:38] <divamiller> # ubuntu-10.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent ???
[13:38] <MeanEYE> divamiller: it requires more understanding and it's a text mode install
[13:38] <researcher123> I have 9.10m and 10.04 in stalled side by side. I want to uninstall 9.10 n use that  space for 10.04.Any guidance please?
[13:38] <KillGuta> How do I reload the firmware list or reload the network drivers?
[13:38] <symptom> ikonia, from what I read it is not that simple.
[13:38] <divamiller> text mode install as in
[13:39] <ikonia> symptom: it's very simple
[13:39] <divamiller> no gui
[13:39] <ikonia> divamiller: it's a text menu interface
[13:39] <divamiller> cmd stle install?
[13:39] <truepurple> kellnola_ That swap file running on the same partition as linux?
[13:39] <divamiller> oooo
[13:39] <ikonia> divamiller: no, menu driven
[13:39] <divamiller> cool
[13:40] <researcher123> hello
[13:42] <yeats> divamiller: just try the alternate installer out - if you have questions ask here
[13:42] <truepurple> kellnola_ That swap file running on the same partition as linux?
[13:42] <GothCC> ikonia: thanks for the info... I found a decent client for it I suppose; permitting I can find themes for it anyways (Promoe)
[13:43] <delaware> exit
[13:43] <kellnola_> truepurple, YES. god. "man mkswap"
[13:45] <cablop> how toclose the vncviewer?
[13:45] <AgentCarmichael> Hello.
[13:45] <cablop> it is not allowing me to do anything
[13:45] <AgentCarmichael> cablop, end the process?
[13:45] <cg2916> i'm still stuck on grub command line
[13:45] <AgentCarmichael> I have just shrunken the logical partition inside my extended partition (where my data is) from 335 GB to 300 GB. I did this so I could give my Windows drive more space. Now I have a problem: the free space is inside the extended partition and Windows is inside the root, outside of the extended partition.. How do I take the free space out of the extended into the root?
[13:45] <cablop> as i said, i cannot switch to anyother windows, so no way to reach the terminal to kill it
[13:45] <cablop> ¬¬
[13:46] <cablop> ubuntu remote desktop is crap
[13:46] <ruan> i prefer ssh
[13:46] <cablop> ssh?
[13:46] <ruan> full control
[13:46] <ruan> !ssh
[13:46] <cablop> i need a remote gui
[13:46] <researcher123> I have 9.10  and 10.04 installed side by side. I want to uninstall 9.10 n use that space for 10.04.Any guidance please?	
[13:46] <cablop> not remote shell
[13:46] <ruan> why do you need a gui?
[13:46] <cg2916> can anyone help me?
[13:46] <cablop> my users need it
[13:46] <ikonia> researcher123: just delete it
[13:46] <kellnola_> yeah I've almost never needed any remote desktop in linux, you can run any gui programs with ssh
[13:46] <oCean> cablop: ssh -X forwards x
[13:46] <yeats> cablop: ssh -X provides graphical services over SSH
[13:46] <ruan> oh ok. then teamviewer
[13:47] <cablop> no way my users won't type on a terminal
[13:47] <ruan> hmm x
[13:47] <researcher123> ikonia: how can I do that? Safe method? GRUB is not shared?
[13:47] <kellnola_> cablop, oh
[13:47] <ikonia> researcher123: delete the partition, if you need to re-apply grub
[13:47] <ruan> cablop: then provide a shortcut?
[13:47] <yeats> cablop: you can do Places -> Connect to Server... and set up the SSH connection
[13:47] <cablop> if i can forward a whole desktop via ssh it'll be nice
[13:47] <yeats> cablop: no command line necessary
[13:48] <cablop> can i forward a whole desktop session?
[13:48] <researcher123> ikonia: actually im quite new so dont know on which partition is 9.10 installed?
[13:48] <cg2916> i'm stuck on grub
[13:48] <yeats> cablop: not via SSH, no
[13:48] <kellnola_> cablop, what is wrong with remote desktop again?
[13:48] <cablop> i was looking for a vnc solution  also, but the remote desktop of ubuntu sucks
[13:48] <ruan> cablop: try teamviewer
[13:48] <cablop> well, i opened it
[13:48] <ikonia> researcher123: use the uuid's
[13:48] <cablop> it is a full screen with no panels
[13:48] <researcher123> !uuid
[13:48] <cablop> and unable to close it
[13:48] <GothCC> cablop: teamviewer or tightvnc are good options imo
[13:48] <cablop> so i locked the client
[13:48] <cablop> teamviewer is so slow
[13:49] <cablop> cause the computer had compiz enabled
[13:49] <researcher123> ikonia: ok.im reading this doc https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks then will proceed
[13:49] <ikonia> researcher123: good call
[13:49] <cablop> mmm
[13:49] <fernandofat> hi all
[13:50] <yeats> cablop: compiz is probably the problem - can you disable compiz?
[13:50] <cablop> tezmviewer will be nivce if onl;y one user works on that computer
[13:50] <cablop> i need for any user to be able to have a remote session, without needing to spawn local sessions on the remote computer
[13:50] <cablop> i think tightvnc with ssh will be a nice solution, huh?
[13:50] <mongy> ssh with xnest maybe?
[13:50] <fernandofat> I just wrecked Ubuntu 10.10 video driver so it boots only to command line
[13:50] <cablop> xnest?
[13:51] <ikonia> cablop: looked at ltsp ?
[13:51] <yeats> fernandofat: what type of video card?
[13:51] <researcher123> ikonia: cant make a way out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks
[13:51] <cablop> dunno what ltsp is
[13:51] <ikonia> researcher123: sorry what ?
[13:51] <ikonia> cablop: check it out
[13:51] <kellnola_> well, remote X is a little on the slow side and is insecure unless encrypted
[13:51] <researcher123> ikonia: u suggested using UUID which I dont know
[13:51] <truepurple> kellnola_ So should I just set up the partition for linux to install on for now, then I can set up extended logic drives from within the linux installation itself?
[13:52] <oCean> !info vinagre | cablop
[13:52] <nathan42100> can someone help me? Trying to configure a live cd of 10.04.2 using uck. When chrooted, I can't install nfs-common, it says statd is an unknown service. I've manually installed statd and it still says unknown service, so nfs-common won't configure properly.
[13:52] <ikonia> researcher123: type "sudo blkid" to see a list of what you have
[13:52] <researcher123> ok
[13:52] <fernandofat> how can I restore previous good video driver configuration for ubuntu 10.10?
[13:53] <cablop> vinagre
[13:53] <ruan> fernandofat: try regenerating xorg.conf
[13:53] <ruan> fernandofat: if it exists
[13:53] <cablop> ltsp would be nice, but i'll need to run it through virtual machines, cause locla machines are different
[13:53] <kellnola_> fernandofat, well, when you type "startx" at the terminal, what happens?
[13:53] <cablop> ltsp would be nice
[13:53] <fernandofat> ruan: okay I will give it a try
[13:53] <cablop> either
[13:53] <Pumpkin-> any idea why copy+pasting large amounts of text between two terminals takes so long. Like 2mins+ for around 30000 lines of text ?
[13:53] <researcher123> ikonia: it displays this http://paste.ubuntu.com/585859/
[13:53] <fernandofat> kellnola_: xorg exits with errors
[13:54] <del_diablo> It seems that the usb disk created from unetbootin is corrupt, as usual.......... This time the installation worked, except it gave the system incorrect UIDs, which fixing is quite easy. Can someone link me to the bugtracker?
[13:54] <mongy> nathan42100, use remastersys, much easier.
[13:54] <ruan> !bug
[13:54] <truepurple> kellnola_: So should I just set up the partition for linux to install on for now, then I can set up extended logic drives from within the linux installation itself?
[13:54] <del_diablo> Pumpkin-: Do you use middlemouse paste, or a different methode?
[13:54] <kellnola_> truepurple, of course. or you can do everything in the installer
[13:54] <Pumpkin-> middlemouse paste yeah
[13:55] <del_diablo> ruan: I asked for something a bit more spesific, I am well aware the tracker exists.....
[13:55] <fernandofat> kellnola_: I just downloaded (from ATI) and installed the official ATI video driver Radeon HD 3200 for thinkpad x100e
[13:55] <ruan> del_diablo: the link to the bugtracker may be contained within that link
[13:55] <del_diablo> ruan: I recommend you to learn english.
[13:55] <Anonymoose> hello, i have a quick question: I just tried to install 8.04 with full disk encryption. the issue I'm having is that the initrd doesn't include ide-generic, which is required for my disk to work. so I end up in that busybox shell and I don't know how to boot the encrypted system so I can then add ide-generic to the initrd. can someone please help me? :)
[13:55] <kellnola_> fernandofat, yes, which errors though. Isn't your driver in the  ubuntu repo?
[13:55] <jrib> del_diablo: please take the time to read information given to you, it answers your question
[13:55] <cablop> what about nomachine|nx?
[13:55] <truepurple> kellnola_ How do I install extended logic drives from within the installer? I don't even see information about whether a drive is primary or extended
[13:56] <mycosys> anonymoose 8.04 is ancient
[13:56] <mycosys> why not 10.04?
[13:56] <Anonymoose> i know, i need it for compatibility reasons
[13:56] <fernandofat> kellnola_: no the driver wasnt from the repo :(
[13:56] <uabn93> Hello, does anyone know how to install sound themes in ubuntu 10.10? I can't get them to work.
[13:56] <fernandofat> kellnola_: got the driver directly at ATI website
[13:56] <jrib> del_diablo: if you prefer, you can go to http://bugs.ubuntu.com and click on "Report a bug" which will send you to the link ruan gave you.  And keep in mind we're all volunteers trying to help one another
[13:57] <fernandofat> kellnola_: i'll try to put some errors here
[13:57] <snapp> I did a test, I put in ping the server from the client on eth0, I am connected to the server on eth1 and I put them under even ping the server on eth0, the client after entering the user name to connect to the server via ssh , I get the message: Request timed out, while eth1 ping continues, so it looks as if it closed the connection from 'outside.
[13:57] <Anonymoose> mycosys, do you know how I can resume the boot process once I manually loaded the ide-generic module? I'm stuck in that busybox
[13:57] <del_diablo> jrib: I recommend you also to learn to read English.  The bugtracker is located over at
[13:57] <del_diablo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=installation+uid&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_packag
[13:57] <del_diablo> asked if anybody knew about any open UID bugs.......
[13:57] <FloodBot3> del_diablo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:57] <yeats> snapp: are you checking your logs when this happens?
[13:57] <mycosys> nope - but u should have been able to do it earier shouldnt u, at grub?
[13:57] <op_amp> I want to grep in whole system to find a file having "term1". The file type is of cpp and on the console I only want to display matched file, not unnecessary msgs like couldn't open this file, unable to find that.
[13:58] <Anonymoose> i can load modules in grub?
[13:58] <IdleOne> !attitude | del_diablo
[13:58] <del_diablo> Anonymoose: No, but you can blacklist
[13:58] <Anonymoose> hm but how does that help me
[13:58] <truepurple> kellnola_ How do I install extended logic drives from within the installer? I don't even see information about whether a drive is primary or extended
[13:58] <kellnola_> truepurple, not sure about the graphical install since I've always used the alternate cd or upgraded in place. The gui installer does hide a lot from you, especially with setting up your filesystems
[13:58] <del_diablo> Anonymoose: What do you want done?
[13:59] <Anonymoose> i need the ide-generic in my initrd
[13:59] <Anonymoose> module*
[13:59] <ZULO> one question, for connecto to wifi with file /interfaces i need unninstall network manager?
[13:59] <truepurple> kellnola_ But doing it from the ubuntu install itself is much easier?
[14:00] <divamiller> almost done dling alternative cd
[14:00] <Anonymoose> can anyone please tell me how i can resume the boot process from that initramfs-busybox-shell? :(
[14:00] <snapp> yeats: I put in the trace file / var / log / auth.log, but when youyou disconnect , it does nothing
[14:01] <gopper> Is there a global-menu support for KDE applications under ubuntu 10.04?
[14:01] <mrdeb> which is safer; firefox or chrome
[14:01] <ikonia> neither
[14:01] <ikonia> neither are "safer" than the other
[14:01] <aeon-ltd> mrdeb: you make it safer, they are all pretty well maintained
[14:01] <bornpilot> chrome if you follow pwn2own but that was not entirely correct either
[14:01] <naoshige> Anybody know of any commercial cloths for removing grease from ones MacBook Pro? I had a barbecue the other day. Kids took the MacBook. The rest is history :)
[14:02] <mrdeb> chrome doesnt work well with hulu when blocking is enabled. firefox does
[14:02] <del_diablo> Anonymoose: You need to find a way of mounting root on /, and then some magic. It is easier to fix the driver via a livecd. What errors did you get to get into busybox?
[14:02] <aeon-ltd> naoshige: not really the right channel
[14:02] <oCean> naoshige: how is that related to #ubuntu?
[14:02] <jrib> naoshige: this channel is dedicated to ubuntu support only
[14:02] <naoshige> my macbook runs ubuntu
[14:02] <aeon-ltd> lol t-t-t-triple attack
[14:02] <yeats> snapp: if one of the network interfaces is being disabled, there should be something in dmesg about it - try 'dmesg | grep eth'
[14:02] <naoshige> come on guys dont be so cold
[14:02] <mycosys> try exit anonymoose
[14:02] <ZULO> one question, for connect to wifi with file /interfaces i need unninstall network manager?
[14:02] <aeon-ltd> naoshige: we're not but others need ubuntu related help
[14:02] <Anonymoose> mycosys: it just respawns the shell
[14:02] <naoshige> true that
[14:03] <naoshige> mycosys: was that for me?
[14:03] <jrib> naoshige: how to cook chicken?  The recipe for chicken I am using is on my macbook that has ubuntu cd in cdrom ;)
[14:03] <mycosys> bugger - has worked for me when i had drives missing from fstab
[14:03] <naoshige> he he he
[14:03] <jrib> naoshige: try #ubuntu-offtopic or one of the mac channels
[14:03] <naoshige> haha check this
[14:03] <naoshige> < enclaved> i hear the blood of children cleans away all sins
[14:04] <ruan> naoshige: still offtopic
[14:04] <naoshige> thats from ##apple
[14:04] <naoshige> well thanks guys im out
[14:04] <del_diablo> I had a launchpad account a year ago, is it gone because of the openid change? Or can I still use it to login?
[14:04] <iceroot> del_diablo: try it?
[14:05] <Anonymoose> can anyone please help me to boot my system? I'm stuck in busybox because the initrd doesn't contain the ide-generic module
[14:05] <snapp> yeats: http://dev.pastebin.it/qzeacx
[14:06] <iceroot> Anonymoose: boot if with a live-cd and rebuild the ramdisk (and before, load the module with modprobe)
[14:06] <mycosys> anonymoose - all-generic-ide is a kernel boot option i believe, or was
[14:06] <ecnabil> Hey a little help, I have ssh-ed into my server and tried to change my password (sudo passwd) it asked me for a new one I type it in. I restart init.d/ssh and logout. But the password I ssh in with stays the same as the old password!!
[14:06] <Anonymoose> iceroot: i have full disk encryption... i was hoping i could resume from busybox to do it on the real system
[14:06] <Anonymoose> kernel option? I'll try that, thanks!
[14:06] <Pumpkin-> ecnabil: "sudo passwd" will change roots password. This is almost certainly not what you wanted to do.
[14:06] <ZULO> one question, for connect to wifi with file /interfaces i need unninstall network manager? log here http://paste.ubuntu.com/585834/
[14:07] <gopper> Is there a global-menu support for KDE applications under ubuntu 10.04?
[14:07] <ecnabil> ahhh....
[14:07] <ecnabil> no, that is not what I wanted to do
[14:07] <Pumpkin-> ecnabil: use "passwd" (no sudo) to set change your own password.
[14:07] <bornpilot> ecnabil : don't use password auth. for ssh use key based auth. for ssh.
[14:07] <del_diablo> Is there any way of editing HD files from busybox, and reading what drives are located where?(IE: /dev/sbg)
[14:07] <jrib> ecnabil: also, you don't need to restart sshd but if you ever do use « sudo service ssh restart » not the /etc/init.d script
[14:08] <jrib> ecnabil: to change your user's password, just run "passwd" as your user
[14:08] <Pumpkin-> and then I'd recommend "sudo passwd -l root" to change root to an account that cannot be logged into with a password.
[14:08] <nathan42100> can someone help me? Trying to configure a live cd of 10.04.2 using uck. When chrooted, I can't install nfs-common, it says statd is an unknown service. I've manually installed statd and it still says unknown service, so nfs-common won't configure properly.
[14:08] <snapp> yeats: http://dev.pastebin.it/qzeacx
[14:08] <ecnabil> thanks jrib bornpilot and Pumpkin
[14:09] <jrib> Pumpkin-, ecnabil: to revert the root account's password back to its original state you should do: sudo usermod -p '!' root
[14:09] <yeats> snapp: try doing 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' while logging in and see what it tells you as you do it - that may lead to the solution
[14:10] <Pumpkin-> I'd got with jrib's method, as I'd have used "vipw -s" :)
[14:10] <dgtl> hi there, i just wondered why there is no vdpau for xine (libxine) and based applications such as ḱaffeine, it is not possible to watch 1080{p,i} content at the moment with a small cpu
[14:10] <dgtl> politely, this sucks
[14:11] <dgtl> just in case it is someone in here, who feels responsible
[14:11] <del_diablo> dgtl: https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa relevant?
[14:11] <dgtl> del_diablo, no, checked, it, no libxine for 10.4 and 10.10
[14:12] <snapp> yast: http://dev.pastebin.it/li0ef0
[14:12] <downloadSSH> when I type 1 in TTY it writes "^[[[E1" how can fix it?
[14:12] <dgtl> del_diablo, one would have to go back to 9.xx for having vdpau support in ubuntu
[14:12] <dgtl> thats...disgusting
[14:12] <del_diablo> dgtl: File a bug report, and then convince 20-30 people to "agree" that is it broken. Sadly the only way to get it fixed :(
[14:13] <ruan> downloadSSH: what is TTY?
[14:13] <yeats> snapp: doesn't look relevant :-/
[14:13] <ruan> hmmm
[14:13] <iceroot> downloadSSH: from the numpad or the real "1" near esc?
[14:13] <downloadSSH> [[E1
[14:13] <yeats> !tty | ruan
[14:13] <dgtl> del_diablo, no way, i wrote bug reports before, they have been 'autoclosed' after a few month, nothing happened at all
[14:13] <downloadSSH> yes iceroot
[14:14] <ZULO> one question, for connect to wifi with file /interfaces i need unninstall network manager? log here http://paste.ubuntu.com/585834/
[14:14] <Anonymoose> the all-generic-ide seems to do nothing. any other ideas pls?
[14:14] <iceroot> downloadSSH: that was not a yes/no question
[14:14] <dgtl> knowing that before, i would have stayed with freeBSD
[14:14] <downloadSSH> iceroot: I type 1 and it writes [[E1
[14:14] <mycosys> try ^d from the busybox onece u modprobe
[14:14] <downloadSSH> iceroot: 1 is near to esc
[14:14] <dgtl> since the multimedia skills are the same
[14:14] <mycosys> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/322680
[14:14] <iceroot> dgtl: write patches :)
[14:14] <downloadSSH> iceroot: so cannot type 1 or ! (alt+1)
[14:15] <dgtl> ice799, swing my balls:)
[14:15] <dgtl> iceroot
[14:15] <dgtl> sorry
[14:15] <downloadSSH> !languauge
[14:15] <iceroot> downloadSSH: hm never heard of that problem before
[14:15] <iceroot> dgtl: we dont need that here
[14:15] <truepurple> kellnola_ You there?
[14:15] <dgtl> oh yeah, language, right
[14:15] <del_diablo> dgtl: Welcome to the point where I lost my faith in humanity. The problem is that you need to find 20-30 people to go the bugtracker and confirm the bug. Or you could bother the devs, but for Ubuntu the devs are antisocial and do not even hang out somewhere.
[14:15] <downloadSSH> iceroot: my keyboard is PT-PT
[14:16] <gopper> Is there a global-menu support for KDE applications under ubuntu 10.04?
[14:16] <dgtl> del_diablo, i see, thanks for the hint and taking the time explaining that to me
[14:16] <JoeSmith> i am getting the following error when creating a partition in parted: "Warning: The resulting partition is not properly aligned for best performance."
[14:17] <Anonymoose> how can i resume booting from the initramfs busybox?
[14:17] <Goliath> hey i have a folder named .winestuff in home. What is it?
[14:17] <JoeSmith> i am getting the following error when creating a partition in parted: "Warning: The resulting partition is not properly aligned for best performance."
[14:17] <truepurple> I am getting a warning regarding partition disks regarding setting up a partition for swap space, that if I continue I won't have swap space, so how do I get it to do swap space without a dedicated partition
[14:17] <snapp> yeats: I was wrong, I did not try to connect, but I have to wait again reached :((((((
[14:18] <yeats> Anonymoose: no - you might try downloading the alternate installer CD for the version you're on and select "Repair a Broken System"
[14:18] <yeats> !alternate | Anonymoose
[14:18] <edbian> truepurple, You can create a swap file after you've installed.  It is usually recommended to have a swap partition
[14:18] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:18] <Anonymoose> yeats: i installed using the alternate cd. my issue is that i have full disk encryption and I assume it will be a pain in the ass to fix it using a rescue cd
[14:18] <snapp> yeast: ok i try
[14:19] <davidisko> ikonia: yes, encryption was in alternate installer.. but why not in desktop?
[14:19] <Goliath>  i have a folder named .wine in my home dir. How can i find out if its 32bit or 64bit?
[14:19] <truepurple> edbian: Why is it recommended to have a swap partition?
[14:19] <yeats> Anonymoose: don't know - I've never dealt with encryption ;-)
[14:19] <edbian> truepurple, It is simpler to set up. That's probably about it.
[14:19] <Anonymoose> yeats: cryptsetup can't access the disk and therefore i end up in busybox. then i load ide-generic and the disks appear. so how can I make it boot?
[14:19] <fernandofat> kellnola_ & ruan: I did the following, I removed the video driver through apt-get and remove Xorg.conf, reboot, now I can boot to GUI. Thanks for the help!
[14:20] <truepurple> edbian: How much space would you recommend for ubuntus partition?
[14:20] <yeats> Anonymoose: sorry, that's beyond my experience
[14:20] <Anonymoose> ok, thanks
[14:20] <iceroot> Anonymoose: build the ramdisk, "mkinitramfs" its building the ramdisk and used the loaded modules
[14:20] <edbian> truepurple, For / or swap or (/ and separate /home) ?
[14:21] <iceroot> Anonymoose: the your needed module will be in the ramdisk
[14:21] <Anonymoose> iceroot: I know, that's what I'm trying to do... but to do that i have to first manually boot
[14:21] <downloadSSH> how can I change keyboard layout for TTY?
[14:21] <truepurple> edbian: I don't know what you mean, I mean the partition I install ubuntu on
[14:22] <Anonymoose> iceroot: but I'm stuck in busybox :D
[14:22] <iceroot> Anonymoose: you just need acces to your system thorugh a live-cd or busy-box
[14:22] <snapp> yeast: nothing, if I try to put in the syslog trace with "tail-f / var / log / syslog", when I connect in ssh I get nothing
[14:22] <iceroot> Anonymoose: but using a live-cd is much easier then fighting with busy-box
[14:22] <yeats> snapp: okay - that's all I know to recommend ;-)
[14:23] <Anonymoose> iceroot: ok hmm... so how do I get access to the disk using a live cd?
[14:23] <Anonymoose> iceroot: I assume i need to chroot it?
[14:23] <iceroot> Anonymoose: boot from the live-cd, mount your drives. thats all
[14:23] <truepurple> edbian: For ubuntu and swap files, how big should I make said partition?
[14:23] <edbian> truepurple, If you put all of Ubuntu on one partition (very normal thing to do) I will tell you that Ubuntu takes ~3Gb after install. And it will probably grow to ~10Gb at the absolute most.  The rest of the space will all be used up by your personal files.  The swap should be a separate partition of about 1 or 2 Gb.
[14:24] <nathan42100> can someone help me? Trying to configure a live cd of 10.04.2 using uck. When chrooted, I can't install nfs-common, it says statd is an unknown service. I've manually installed statd and it still says unknown service, so nfs-common won't configure properly.
[14:24] <iceroot> Anonymoose: i dont think so you need chroot to build the ramdisk, but it should be not a problem ti chroot the system to be sure
[14:24] <Anonymoose> iceroot: ok thanks, I guess I will do that now.
[14:24] <ikonia> nathan42100: uck ?
[14:24] <nathan42100> uck.sourceforge.net
[14:24] <edbian> truepurple, Besides my user files, my Operating System takes up 3.3Gb and I've been running linux for years
[14:24] <ikonia> nathan42100: that's nothing to do with Ubuntu
[14:25] <ikonia> nathan42100: there is a support forum and mailing list on that page for that product
[14:25] <nathan42100> ikonia: the issue exists when installing stuff via chroot
[14:25] <nathan42100> everything else installed fine
[14:25] <truepurple> ebian: You said the only benefit to having swap in a separate partition is easier to install?
[14:25] <Jemt> Hello guys. Will Ubuntu be able to automatically load Wifi drivers contained in linux-backports-modules-wireless ?
[14:25] <ikonia> nathan42100: they have support researches
[14:25] <Jemt> I'm remastering Ubuntu to include as many network drivers as possible
[14:25] <edbian> truepurple, Yes it's easier to do than create a swap file and you really should have a swap of some kind.
[14:25] <ikonia> Jemt: it does it on hardware detection
[14:25] <ikonia> Jemt: we don't support custom build projects
[14:25] <edbian> Jemt, It pretty much already does.
[14:26] <nathan42100> ikonia: can we treat this as if I was just having issues installing that package?
[14:26] <ikonia> nathan42100: no
[14:26] <Jemt> So it that a "no" ?
[14:26] <truepurple> Ebian: Is easier the only benefit? And is it really so hard to create a swap file?
[14:26] <ikonia> Jemt: no, that's a yes, but we don't support you building your own spin
[14:27] <Jemt> ikonia: That's alright, don't' got any problems with that :)
[14:27] <del_diablo> How do I detect what HD is where from inside busybox? And how do I edit tekstfiles? I managed to mount my root partition and i used cat to to read /etc/fstab....
[14:27] <ikonia> Jemt: cool
[14:27] <Jemt> Thanks guys :)
[14:27] <edbian> truepurple, I've never made a swap file myself.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq   The swap partition is a matter of using the installer's automagic partitioner.
[14:27] <phaseshift> truepurple and edbian: One other advantage of a swap partition could be the absence of filesystem overhead needed to access a swap file located within ext3 or such.
[14:27] <pearsonl> does canonical sell anything besides support?
[14:28] <ikonia> pearsonl: products such as landscape
[14:28] <truepurple> phaseshift: I didn't understand that
[14:28] <ikonia> pearsonl: look on the website
[14:28] <edbian> phaseshift, truepurple That's true.  The swap has it's own filesystem so if you create a swap file on an ext4 parititon then you have 2 filesystems (one embedded in the other) which is unnecessary
[14:28] <erUSUL> pearsonl: coffee mugs and t-shirts ;P
[14:28] <downloadSSH> what is dram frequency
[14:28] <pearsonl> im on the website I couldnt find alot
[14:29] <divamiller> need some help
[14:29] <ikonia> divamiller: with what
[14:29] <drc> pearsonl: on you on the ubuntu or canonical website
[14:29] <divamiller> how do you create live usb within ubuntu
[14:29] <ikonia> !install
[14:29] <pearsonl> http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=41
[14:29] <erUSUL> divamiller: unetbootin or the usb creator
[14:29] <iceroot> !usb | divamiller
[14:29] <ikonia> divamiller: check thse links
[14:29] <truepurple> edbian: the disadvantage of that being?
[14:30] <divamiller> i want to create a live gentoo usb under ubunt
[14:30] <divamiller> u
[14:30] <divamiller> so...
[14:30] <divamiller> those links aren't useful
[14:30] <ikonia> divamiller: ask the guys in #gentoo how to do it
[14:30] <murphylan> Hi all, my issue as same as this url: http://serverfault.com/questions/248275/installing-mysql-server-on-ubuntu-10-04
[14:30] <murphylan> who can help me
[14:31] <edbian> truepurple, When a file is stored, when filesystem tells another filesystem that tells the hdd how to write the 1's and 0's  Ordinarily only 1 filesystem does this and it is faster.  Probably not a thing you'd notice since the OS rarely waits for disc I/O to do something (especially from swap).
[14:31] <phaseshift> truepurple: What it means is that a simple swap partition is dedicated to swapping functions and can be directly written in large chunks.  If your swap is a file inside another filesystem like ext3, there's additional work for the system to do when writing because the filesystem driver is doing its thing (splitting into inodes, mapping blocks to different parts of the filesystem's partition, etc.).  It's not a huge performance loss, but 
[14:31] <phaseshift> be important to someone somewhere.
[14:31] <iceroot> divamiller: live-gentoo? live-compiling? :)
[14:31] <ikonia> murphylan: is this on a vpn ?
[14:31] <edbian> truepurple, It's the kind of thing that you'd see in a benchmark but never notice using the computer.
[14:31] <ikonia> murphylan: sorry, vps
[14:31] <phaseshift> edbian: Well said.
[14:31] <edbian> phaseshift, Thanks
[14:32] <edbian> truepurple, The real thing we should be talking about here is 'why do you want to use a swap file' in the first place?  If there is no reason to use it then creating a swap file is much simpler
[14:33] <truepurple> Simplifies my partitions
[14:33] <Cube``> supp
[14:33] <Cube``> truepurple: ?
[14:33] <cbkia> error : file not found........ grub rescue> ... what shld i do now
[14:34] <ikonia> truepurple: how hard is this, you need one partition for / (root)) and one partition for swap, why are you making this so hard
[14:34] <edbian> truepurple, Creates less of them.  I don't know if that's more simple.  Is 1 thing more simple than 2 things?  IDK
[14:34] <truepurple> I need at least 5 with a swap partition
[14:35] <ikonia> truepurple: why ?
[14:35] <edbian> truepurple, You only need 2 for Ubuntu
[14:35] <ikonia> truepurple: why do you need 5 partitions
[14:35] <kellnola_> phaseshift, well, if the systems actually using the swap, that's problem enough
[14:36] <truepurple> 1 for windows, 1 for linux, 1 for linux swap partition, a spare one for maybe trying out a second distro, a main one for my files, perhaps a second main one for ext4 type saves
[14:36] <ikonia> truepurple: don't mix and match distros, dual booting especially with ubuntu 10.04 and later is scrappy
[14:36] <cbkia> error : file not found........ grub rescue> ... what shld i do now .. .I just wanna be able to boot into my windows now
[14:36] <truepurple> Anyway, if there is no disadvantage to using a swap file, and I have yet to hear one...
[14:36] <ikonia> truepurple: 1 partition for windows, 1 partitions ubuntu 1 partition for swap, keep it simple
[14:37] <ikonia> truepurple: you're new to ubuntu and linux, keep it simple, 3 partitions, clean and easy
[14:37] <truepurple> Naw, I am not putting general files on the same partition as the OS's
[14:37] <ikonia> truepurple: why ?
[14:37] <kellnola_> truepurple, that's a windows mentality :)
[14:37] <truepurple> Because it makes fresh installs so much more complicated
[14:37] <ikonia> truepurple: ok, so create a /home directory
[14:38] <ikonia> truepurple: put that on a partition on it's own
[14:38] <edbian> truepurple, If you want to leave space open for another distro just leave it unallocated for now.  You do not need a spare partition to store files.  Just make windows big and store the files there.  Linux can read the windows filesystem.  Last, you do not HAVE to store anything in ext4 except the actual Ubuntu OS.
[14:38] <ikonia> truepurple: 1 windows, 1 ubuntu 1 home 1 swap, very simple
[14:39] <edbian> Having a separate /home is generally a good idea and the Ubuntu installer has an automagic option for it I believe
[14:40] <truepurple> Again, what are the disavantages of having a swap partition, if any?
[14:40] <truepurple> I mean of having a swap file instead of a partition
[14:40] <ikonia> truepurple: none
[14:40] <ikonia> truepurple: just keep it simple, you are new to linux
[14:40] <ZULO> truepurple,  i think none
[14:40] <ikonia> truepurple: use the partition layout I have given you
[14:40] <edbian> truepurple, the disadvantages of a swap file are that it is harder to set up and has worse performance.
[14:40] <kellnola_> truepurple, loss of a little disk space, that's all
[14:41] <edbian> I don't count loss of space because swap is either a file or a partition, either way it's the same size.
[14:41] <ruan> is it ok to partition on a mounted drive (but partitioning unmounted partitions)
[14:41] <nes> whats going on guys
[14:41] <ikonia> ruan: no
[14:41] <kellnola_> edbian, I think the point is moot since if the system is using swap at all the performance will be horrible either way
[14:41] <ikonia> researcher123: no
[14:41] <ikonia> oops
[14:41] <truepurple> I am hearing conflicting opinions, does having a swap file impact performance negatively or not?
[14:41] <ikonia> truepurple: no
[14:41] <ikonia> truepurple: we've said no , 3 times
[14:41] <ikonia> truepurple: follow the partition example I gave you
[14:41] <KtodiK> how do i get permition to extract any files to /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers?
[14:41] <ikonia> KtodiK: use sudo
[14:42] <edbian> kellnola_, The swap will be slower in the swapfile than on the partition.  (I guess it is moot if moot means different but who cares)
[14:42] <KtodiK> ikonia ?
[14:42] <KtodiK> ikonia: use sudo and do what?
[14:42] <edbian> ikonia, I disagree
[14:42] <ikonia> KtodiK: you need root permission to access that file system, using sudo for the command to extract will allow it
[14:42] <zxiest[a]> Hello ... I'm getting insufficient permissions for adding an object to repository database ./objects . How can I grant my user this permission?
[14:42] <edbian> ikonia, If you have a swap file you have two filesystems  (one on top of another).  That will be slower
[14:42] <cbkia> error : file not found........ grub rescue> ... what shld i do now
[14:42] <cbkia> error : file not found........ grub rescue> ... what shld i do now
[14:43] <ikonia> edbian: he's running a home desktop, he's not going to see a differnce
[14:43] <ikonia> cbkia: please don't spam
[14:43] <KtodiK> ikonia: but how? can u help?
[14:43] <downloadSSH> dammit
[14:43] <ruan> cbkia: boot a livecd and restore grub
[14:43] <ruan> !grub2
[14:43] <ikonia> KtodiK: sudo chmod 777 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers
[14:43] <ikonia> KtodiK: then do it
[14:43] <kellnola_> edbian, what I am saying is that worrying about minutiae of swap performance is a waste of time since the system has to come to it's knees anyway to be using the swap at all
[14:43] <edbian> ikonia, He probably won't notice it.  Because swap read time probably doesn't affect I/O anyway.  I already explained this to him though.  So you telling him that it has no affect on performance is confusing.
[14:43] <truepurple> ikonia: edbian said it does negatively effect performance, so don't make it sound like its like everyone is saying the same thing. And if your right that it doesn't, no particular reason to put it in its own partition
[14:43] <ikonia> edbian: it's not, as far as a home user is concerned it will have no difference
[14:43] <edbian> ikonia, Sorry, swap read time does probably not affect user percieved latency
[14:44] <ikonia> truepurple: look, do you have linux experence, yes or no
[14:44] <eric_> is there any good screen capture programs for ubuntu??
[14:44] <ikonia> edbian: I agree with you which is why I'm saying it will have no performance impace for him
[14:44] <truepurple> I am just just responding to what I am told
[14:44] <KtodiK> ikonia: i still get "permisson denied"
[14:44] <ikonia> KtodiK: then you didn't run the command I gave you
[14:44] <edbian> ikonia, But the way you said it was confusing to him.  (obviously)
[14:44] <niooins> hello. someone told me about some ubuntu respect site. does anyone know whats its name?
[14:44] <nes> eric there is plenty of good ones :P
[14:44] <ikonia> truepurple: you will have no performance impact, follow the partition layotu I gave you
[14:45] <Xubuntunoob> nes can you tell me some
[14:45] <KtodiK> ikonia: nvm lol i typed the password wrong, it worked now, thanks
[14:45] <gopper> Is there a global-menu support for KDE applications under ubuntu 10.04?
[14:45] <nes> gtk-recordMyDesktop,
[14:45] <ruan> niooins: respect site?
[14:45] <nes> was the one i think i used.. not to sure :E
[14:45] <truepurple> ikonia: And no performance impact with using a swap file instead of a swap partition, according to your own words.
[14:45] <ikonia> truepurple: use the partition layout I gave you
[14:45] <ikonia> truepurple: 4 partitions, use the layout I gave you, keep it simple
[14:45] <edbian> truepurple, ikonia Let's just agree that the swap file has 1 disadvantage and that is it is harder to set up.
[14:45] <niooins> ruan: yes. something to do with respect
[14:45] <nes> but only really done desktop recording in windows and the trusty fraps is king :p
[14:46] <ikonia> edbian: I've said that, which is why I ma telling him to use the 4 partition layout I've given him
[14:46] <zxiest[a]> ikonia I'm getting insufficient permissions for adding an object to repository database ./objects . How can I grant my user this permission?
[14:46] <kellnola_> KtodiK, then "sudo su"
[14:46] <ikonia> KtodiK: no
[14:46] <ikonia> kellnola_: do not recommend that
[14:46] <kellnola_> why? many shell built-ins do not work with sudo
[14:47] <ikonia> kellnola_: they work fine
[14:47] <edbian> truepurple, Instead of forcing you to install Ubuntu the way I want you to I'll help you do whatever you want and I'll only point out why you might want to do things differently.  I won't make you do things my way.  What do you want help with?
[14:47] <Anonymoose> FUUU 1. set hdd mode from ide to ahci, 2. ???, 3. PROFIT! thanks guys!
[14:47] <ikonia> Anonymoose: ?
[14:47] <Anonymoose> i just fixed my problem. nevermind :D
[14:47] <Xubuntunoob> are there any screen capture programs i can install with synaptic??
[14:48] <truepurple> If it doesn't really matter whether I get a swap partition or swap file, then it doesn't matter
[14:48] <edbian> Xubuntunoob, yes! sudo apt-get install gnome-screenshot
[14:48] <ikonia> Xubuntunoob: scrot
[14:48] <ikonia> truepurple: yes it does
[14:48] <ikonia> truepurple: listen to what you are being told
[14:48] <truepurple> You say it doesn't
[14:48] <ikonia> truepurple: use the 4 partition layout I have given you
[14:48] <gopper> Is there a global-menu support for KDE applications under ubuntu 10.04...?
[14:48] <Xubuntunoob> i only just started with ubuntu like a month ago so im still getting used to it
[14:48] <BluesKaj> Xubuntunoob, try the prntscn key ...see what happens
[14:48] <ikonia> truepurple: trust the advice you are getting
[14:48] <edbian> truepurple, As long as you have one the system will be fine.
[14:49] <edbian> truepurple, Which one you have is up to you.
[14:49] <phaseshift> Xubuntunoob: To confirm: are you looking to capture still images of your screen or video?
[14:49] <Bipul`> how to check my computer log
[14:49] <Xubuntunoob> blueskaj: i want to record stuff on desktop not just screen shots
[14:50] <Bipul`> any one know how shud i know when my computer is being online
[14:50] <Xubuntunoob> phaseshift: video
[14:50] <downloadSSH> I can't even delete text in TTY
[14:50] <ikonia> Bipul`: what ?
[14:50] <edbian> truepurple, If you didn't have one, If your system tried to use more ram than it had then performance would drop to near 0 and your computer would become unusable until it finished what it was trying to do.
[14:50] <Xubuntunoob> also while im here
[14:51] <Xubuntunoob> is there any other java for PowerPC that isnt as slow as OpenJDK?
[14:51] <downloadSSH> !tty > downloadSSH
[14:51] <truepurple> With 8GB, that is unlikely, anyway I said, Id perfer just to use swap file, if its just a bit more work to install
[14:51] <Bipul`> ikonia,  i just wants to know in my absence who has  loged into my computer
[14:51] <Xubuntunoob> or am i stuck with openjdk?
[14:51] <zxiest[a]> Does anybody know how I can grant a user permission to add objects to git's db?
[14:51] <ikonia> Bipul`: just do a "last"
[14:51] <phaseshift> Xubuntunoob: For video, I'm inclined to suggest the same thing someone mentioned previously ... the gtk-recordmydesktop package in Synaptic.
[14:51] <KtodiK> how to modify refresh rate(vert/horiz).?????
[14:51] <Xubuntunoob> phaseshift: ok thanks ^_^
[14:52] <phaseshift> Xubuntunoob: Sure, good luck.
[14:52] <downloadSSH> Is there a guide on how to use keyboard in TTY
[14:52] <mycosys>  having finished the upgrade(jaunty-karmic), apt-get upgrade -f wants to remove startup-tasks system-services ubuntu-minimal upstart-compat-sysv upstart-log  --- PLEASE tell me they are depicated in karmic :(, looks like they may conflict upstart?
[14:52] <ikonia> downloadSSH: you just type
[14:52] <Bipul`> ikonia,  how to know last 7 days logs
[14:52] <ikonia> Bipul`: it logs over 7 days
[14:52] <downloadSSH> ikonia: I can't type 1 or !
[14:52] <yeats> downloadSSH: it should work the same way as normal
[14:52] <KtodiK> how to modify refresh rate(vert/horiz).?????
[14:52] <downloadSSH> yeats: but it's not :(
[14:53] <yeats> downloadSSH: could be a problem with your keyboard
[14:53] <edbian> truepurple, Sure.  8Gb is a lot of ram.  I never use more than the 1Gb I have installed :)
[14:53] <ikonia> KtodiK: you need to make an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[14:53] <mycosys> actionparsnip - u always answer
[14:53] <downloadSSH> yeats: when I type 1 it writes [[E1
[14:53] <ikonia> truepurple: don't have a swap partition or swap file
[14:53] <KtodiK> ikonia: i just extracted the xorg.conf file i had downloaded, is that ok?
[14:53] <ruan> i just removed libkdecore6, and some of my things disappeared somehow(SSH was gone, had to reinstall it), is there a reason for this?
[14:54] <ikonia> KtodiK: probably not as it won't be setup for your machine
[14:54] <downloadSSH> yeats: I try backspace or delete to erase text but doesnt work
[14:54] <edbian> truepurple, swap is also used to hibernate.  So don't expect that to work if you don't have swap.
[14:54] <downloadSSH> im confused with tty
[14:54] <yeats> downloadSSH: is this a new problem?
[14:54] <snapp> yeats: mybe i resolved
[14:55] <ruan> also, qt4
[14:55] <Bipul`>     :0               Mon Mar 21 12:17 - down   (00:25) <-- what this down indicate
[14:55] <edbian> truepurple, Since you have so much ram I suggest you install without a swap.  The first time you see a problem then learn how to create a swap file (or swap partition if you want)
[14:55] <ruan> everything related to libqt wants to be autoremoved
[14:55] <downloadSSH> yeats: i dont know if it's new but it's a problem :s
[14:55] <ikonia> Bipul`: where are you looking
[14:55] <edbian> truepurple, also, be aware, that a disc can only have 4 primary partitions on it, so if you have more than 4 partitions you need to create 'extended' or 'logical' partitions and fill them with physical partitions.
[14:56] <yeats> ruan: if you remove a software package that alot of other packages depend on, APT will automatically remove all of the packages
[14:56] <downloadSSH> yeats: it has worked before
[14:56] <Bipul`> ikonia,   i just type "last" in terminal
[14:56] <ruan> yeats: yes, but SSH does _not_ depend on libkde
[14:56] <Cube``> asd
[14:56] <ikonia> Bipul`: it means someone shut the machine down on the console
[14:57] <zxiest[a]> what does this mean? chmod -R gituser.gituser objects?
[14:57] <ruan> ok, one question: is qt4 required?
[14:57] <ikonia> zxiest[a]: it changes the owner of the directory and all bellow it
[14:57] <ikonia> ruan: for what ?
[14:57] <yeats> downloadSSH: can you boot up with a Live CD and test the keyboard? if it works with a live CD, Ubuntu is not mapping your key correctly - if it doesn't it's probably a hardware problem
[14:57] <ruan> ikonia: for system operation
[14:58] <ikonia> ruan: depends what your running on your system
[14:58] <Cube``> test
[14:58] <ruan> ikonia: apt is suggesting that i autoremove it
[14:58] <Cube``> ping me back
[14:58] <Cube``> ugh
[14:58] <ruan> Cube``: ?
[14:58] <ikonia> ruan: it depends what you're running on your system if QT is needed
[14:58] <edbian> zxiest[a], chmod changes permissions, -R means recursively (all folders and sub folders), gituser.gituser is your username on git presumably, objects is the files you want to change permissions for.  What's weird is that chmod should have 777 or some other set of numbers.  This looks like a mess between chmod and chown (which changes owners)
[14:59] <ruan> i guess i'll autoremove
[14:59] <IdleOne> ruan: if apt is saying you can auto remove it, go ahead
[14:59] <yeats> ruan: one of the packages removed must have been a package SSH depends on - if you remove a core library package, it will always have this kind of effect
[14:59] <kubanc> how do i create trash icon on desktop?
[14:59] <Cube``> asd
[14:59] <ruan> it's 107MB of libs that it wants to autoremove
[14:59] <IdleOne> ruan: you probably installed some KDE application and then removed it at some point
[14:59] <ruan> which is why im curious
[14:59] <zxiest[a]> ikonia edbian Thanks :-)
[14:59] <ruan> yeah i removed KDE itself
[14:59] <edbian> zxiest[a], I hope that's helpful!
[14:59] <snapp> yeats: mybe is a bug, but i have resolved
[14:59] <IdleOne> ruan: that is it. :)
[15:00] <zxiest[a]> edbian I'm trying to allow my user named git to be able to access objects
[15:00] <KtodiK> how do i extract xorg.conf.gz and modify refresh rate(vert/horiz). ??
[15:00] <ruan> i'll pastebin it
[15:00] <KtodiK> how do i extract xorg.conf.gz and modify refresh rate(vert/horiz). ??
[15:00] <IdleOne> !fixres | KtodiK
[15:00] <truepurple> edbian: I know, though im told that only matters with windows, anyway that is another reason to avoid a swap partition
[15:00] <edbian> zxiest[a], I would guess something like this: sudo chown -R git:git files
[15:00] <phaseshift> TTY_problem: If you're having keyboard layout issues, perhaps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf is relevant?
[15:00] <ruan> http://pastebin.com/9iqKZUPN
[15:00] <yeats> ruan: you should read up on APT and how it works
[15:01] <zxiest[a]> edbian cool... will try it :-)
[15:01] <yeats> !apt | ruan
[15:01] <edbian> truepurple, No, the 4 physical partition limit is because of the physical hdd.  All hdd's do that.
[15:01] <ruan> yes i know how it works, but im curious as to if those packages are required for anything
[15:01] <yeats> snapp: great!  glad you could work it out
[15:01] <IdleOne> ruan: those are safe to remove. trust your apt, it knows.
[15:01] <ruan> since it's 107 mb of apps
[15:01] <edbian> truepurple, Although windows might not support more than 4.  I have no idea.  Ubuntu does using extended (logical) partitions
[15:01] <ikonia> ruan: if they where the package manager would tell you to remove them
[15:02] <ruan> ok then.
[15:02] <phaseshift> edbian: Does the Ubuntu desktop installer default to LVM now?  That really helps cut down on the number of raw partitions required.
[15:02] <KtodiK> what does it means?
[15:02] <edbian> phaseshift, I don't believe so.  Fedora does!
[15:02] <ruan> what about hal?
[15:02] <ruan> !info hal
[15:02] <yeats> ruan: you can also browse http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to see what software depends on what
[15:02] <jali> Hi everyone. Anyone who can help with an ssh-agent related problem?
[15:02] <KtodiK> IdleOne: what dou mean??
[15:02] <edbian> phaseshift, But it does put all the Ubuntu stuff in an extended partition.
[15:02] <ruan> it autoremoved hal
[15:02] <IdleOne> KtodiK: I mean go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution and read :)
[15:02] <ikonia> ruan: it's not needed then
[15:03] <truepurple> edbian: I meant that I am told the only time it matters whether a drive is primary or extended logical, is with windows
[15:03] <IdleOne> ruan: apt will not remove anything it believes is needed. So if it is telling you to auto remove packages they are safe to remove
[15:03] <ikonia> truepurple: windows doesn't care
[15:03] <KtodiK> IdleOne: all i want to do is to get this driver to work http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9920147&postcount=568
[15:03] <ruan> ok. lol
[15:03] <edbian> truepurple, That's probably true.  I can't say for sure though.  Seems very likely that windows cannot read extended partitions
[15:03] <truepurple> ikonia I was told windows doesn't work right on a extended logical.
[15:04] <ikonia> truepurple: works fine
[15:04] <ikonia> easier to put it on the first primary though
[15:04] <Xubuntunoob> i have a question
[15:04] <txw> Hello
[15:04] <truepurple> So no difference at all between extended and primary in function?
[15:04] <phaseshift> truepurple: I can believe that booting from an extended/logical partition would introduce complexity, but otherwise Windows and Ubuntu should both have no problems.
[15:04] <Cube``> txw: wadap
[15:04] <ruan> still was strange for it to remove SSH
[15:04] <KtodiK> how do i get permission to add files to /etc/X11/ ?+?
[15:04] <ruan> ssh is not dependent on KDE
[15:04] <ikonia> KtodiK: I told you earlier
[15:05] <edbian> truepurple, phaseshift ikonia Can windows read some other partition that is inside an extended partition?
[15:05] <dnivra> phaseshift, truepurple I am able to boot from extended partitions. so it does work but not sure if always-mine could be an isolated case.
[15:05] <antant> Can I install ubuntu to a flash drive and keep the updates I add in?
[15:05] <Xubuntunoob> is there any better java for powerpc
[15:05] <IdleOne> antant: yes
[15:05] <dnivra> edbian, yes windows can.
[15:05] <truepurple> dnivra windows?
[15:05] <IdleOne> !usb | antant
[15:05] <edbian> antant, Yes, it's called persistent
[15:05] <edbian> dnivra, neat
[15:05] <yeats> ruan: not directly, but SSH must depend on a package that was being removed - it's like a chain reaction
[15:05] <IdleOne> antant: see the second link ubottu just gave you
[15:05] <phaseshift> dnivra: Okay, I haven't created a logical partition in years thanks LVM so my knowledge may be out of date.  Apologies if that's the case.
[15:06] <ruan> strange, because i reinstalled SSH and KDE is still not installed
[15:06] <dnivra> truepurple, i haven't tried windows just ubuntu :).
[15:06] <antant> cheers guys
[15:06] <KtodiK> no u told me how to add to /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers and i got it worked, but now i want add file to /etc/X11/ and i tried the same command but it doesnt do anything
[15:06] <zxiest[a]> what denotes current dir? . <- ?
[15:06] <dnivra> phaseshift, sure thing :).
[15:06] <ruan> zxiest[a]: ./ yes
[15:06] <snapp> yets: yes ok its ok
[15:06] <zxiest[a]> ruan thanks :-)
[15:06] <ikonia> KtodiK: just use the same command, but change the path
[15:06] <truepurple> Well, seems I can't create extended with this boot program, so I guess I will have to install linux first, then I can just create a swap partition latter, right?
[15:07] <KtodiK> ikonia: what path?
[15:07] <ikonia> truepurple: the linux installer can create extended partitions fine
[15:07] <ikonia> KtodiK: the path you want to change the permissions on so you can write to it
[15:07] <phaseshift> truepurple: Can I ask what boot program you're referring to?
[15:07] <edbian> truepurple, I don't know what the boot program is but when you go to install Ubuntu you have free reign over repartitioning the entire hdd.
[15:07] <truepurple> unetbootin
[15:07] <zxiest[a]> does anybody know the path to git's repository database?
[15:07] <truepurple> netinstall version
[15:08] <edbian> truepurple, You can re-partition using a live CD at any time.  So yes you can set up a swap partition later
[15:08] <dnivra> truepurple, unetbootin just creates bootable USB disks and nothing else.
[15:08] <dnivra> truepurple, I think you should try gparted.
[15:08] <KtodiK> ikonia: ok can u give me the command again because i forgot it and dissepeared in chat... was it sudo cmnd 777 ?
[15:08] <IdleOne> KtodiK: do alt-F2 and in the box type: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:08] <coz_> zxiest[a],  for any particular files/applications ?
[15:08] <dnivra> !info gparted | truepurple
[15:08] <ikonia> zxiest[a]: you set that up, it's different for everyone
[15:08] <truepurple> This will download and install at the same time
[15:08] <edbian> zxiest[a], You create a git repository manually wherever you want it...
[15:08] <zxiest[a]> I see...
[15:08] <zxiest[a]> edbian I created teh repository..
[15:08] <truepurple> Anway it is already set up, I just need to decide partition info and get it working
[15:08] <zxiest[a]> But I'm failing to ssh write to "objects"
[15:09] <edbian> zxiest[a], Where did you create it?  That's where it is.  In a hidden .git folder
[15:09] <truepurple> And of course disconnect online since I can't have two PCs connected to the internet at the same time
[15:09] <edbian> truepurple, Then it's not really set up now is it? :P
[15:09] <ikonia> zxiest[a]: look at the permissions on tit then
[15:09] <edbian> truepurple, You should have the Ubuntu machine connected to the Internet for the first update at least.
[15:09] <edbian> truepurple, Get a router! :P
[15:09] <zxiest[a]> I get an error "insufficient permission for adding an object to repository database ./objects"
[15:09] <ikonia> zxiest[a]: change the permissions !
[15:09] <zxiest[a]> this would be inside .git ?
[15:09] <ikonia> zxiest[a]: no,
[15:10] <ikonia> numexa: it's the file system
[15:10] <Xubuntunoob> is there any other  java other than openJDK for powerPC
[15:10] <edbian> zxiest[a], I think so.  Is there some website involved you're trying to sync to/from?
[15:10] <zxiest[a]> ikonia i did chmod -R u+rw ./
[15:10] <truepurple> Pretty set up, dnivra: the program you speak of allows one to download off the net and install at the same time?
[15:10] <ikonia> zxiest[a]: ok ?
[15:10] <zxiest[a]> edbian i'm trying to upload from local
[15:10] <jali> I can't log into any remote machine, because ubuntu stopped asking for passwords. Anyone know how this can happen?
[15:10] <edbian> truepurple, That's called a netinstall.  Most distros do that
[15:11] <zxiest[a]> using capistrano for rails
[15:11] <edbian> zxiest[a], so 'push'  maybe you don't have permissions on the website
[15:11] <dnivra> truepurple, i do not know if unetbootin can do install but download sure eys. not familiar with netinstall :)
[15:11] <truepurple> So whats so special about gparted over unetbootin?
[15:11] <compdoc> jali, is it locked up? Frozen?
[15:11] <HyperShock> Xubuntunoob, yes, just open your synaptic and search for java, you'll see them.
[15:11] <zxiest[a]> edbian it did let me in but apparently my user "git" doesn't have access to write to the repository's objects
[15:11] <zxiest[a]> I don't understand what the "repository's objects" are
[15:12] <edbian> truepurple, gparted is partitioning software.  unetbootin lets you boot OS iso from your hdd
[15:12] <yeats> truepurple: they are very different programs
[15:12] <zxiest[a]> repository database objects *
[15:12] <edbian> zxiest[a], I have no idea.  This isn't really Ubuntu related anymore
[15:12] <jali> compdoc: No, I an log in via ssh throuh my notebook, so the ssh server is ok. But from the other machine, ssh is not asking for the passphrase anymore, so any connection attempt is denied
[15:12] <jali> I believe the problem is on the client
[15:12] <edbian> truepurple, They do different things entirely
[15:12] <truepurple> I can just do it after I install ubuntin too, right?
[15:12] <zxiest[a]> edbian no prob .. =)
[15:12] <zxiest[a]> thanks guys
[15:12] <ikonia> truepurple: do what ?
[15:12] <Xubuntunoob> how do i set up vnc on Xubuntu??
[15:12] <truepurple> Partition and such
[15:13] <ikonia> truepurple: no
[15:13] <ikonia> truepurple: you need to partition BEFORE you install
[15:13] <imetallica> is there a way to set up different languages for different users on Ubuntu?
[15:13] <phaseshift> Xubuntunoob: Are you looking to install a VNC client to view other systems, or a VNC server to share your own desktop?
[15:13] <openbord> you know that, when sometimes nm-applet is not able to make 3g connections and you have to reboot? is there a way to fix it ? thank youu
[15:14] <truepurple> ikonia: Why is that?
[15:14] <Xubuntunoob> phaseshift:  i want to setup a vnc server so i can view my desktop over the internet
[15:14] <edbian> truepurple, partitioning is part of the installer / install process.
[15:14] <HyperShock> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/share-your-ubuntu-desktop-using-remote-desktop.html
[15:14] <yeats> truepurple: I haven't been following your problem completely, but it sounds like you've made this more complicated than it needs to be... why not just make an Ubuntu Live USB and run the installer?
[15:14] <HyperShock> or search for NXclient
[15:14] <Xubuntunoob> hypershock: thanks but i have xubuntu so that link wont work
[15:15] <truepurple> yeats: Too big
[15:15] <yeats> truepurple: what's too big?
[15:15] <alsuna> imetallica: in system->language support each user can choose his own language
[15:15] <truepurple> yeats: Ubuntu live for this PCs hard drive
[15:16] <imetallica> thanks mate :)
[15:16] <phaseshift> Xubuntunoob: You might have better luck in #xubuntu for Xubuntu-related questions.
[15:16] <phaseshift> Xubuntunoob: I'm not familiar with that spin, personally.
[15:16] <melissaveogeli> What is your xfce question?
[15:16] <CESSMASTER> is there a page with a plain old http link
[15:16] <CESSMASTER> or i guess ftp
[15:16] <yeats> truepurple: not sure I'm understanding... Ubuntu live is too big for the PC's hard drive, or for the USB drive?
[15:17] <rmedernach> I was wondering if someone could help me out. I'm trying to use the Gimp and when I go to file open image I lose functionality to move around with my mouse (keyboard) seems to work fine
[15:17] <CESSMASTER> so that I can download the iso in a program other than my browser
[15:17] <truepurple> yeats: Too big for THIS pcs hard drive, this is to install on a completely different PC
[15:17] <ikonia> truepurple: how big is your hard disk ?
[15:17] <HyperShock> CESSMASTER, heh, how hard have you looked?
[15:17] <truepurple> This one? Or the new one?
[15:18] <ikonia> truepurple: the one you are going to install from
[15:18] <yeats> truepurple: oh - I think I understand now - you don't have enough hard disk space to hold 700 MB?
[15:18] <CESSMASTER> HyperShock: i saw the big corporate javascript-laden page and got the impression that i wasn't meant to look hard at all
[15:19] <Xubuntunoob> phaseshift: oh ok
[15:19] <truepurple> Yeats: It needs to hold 700mb +700mb for temporary cache for downloading and unpacking
[15:19] <ikonia> truepurple: how big is the drive you are installing FROM
[15:20] <yeats> truepurple: can you use someone else's computer to do this?  nearly every computer that can run at all nowdays has that much disk space ;-)
[15:20] <truepurple> This PC has one drive that is 333mb big, the main drive, and about 800 on the other partition or drive
[15:20] <yeats> truepurple: WOW
[15:20] <truepurple> This is someone elses PC
[15:20] <ikonia> truepurple: does the machine you want to use have a CD drive ?
[15:20]  * yeats suggests that you use yet another PC to do this
[15:21] <truepurple> Both PCs have CD drives, but THIS pc has no burning capacity
[15:21] <truepurple> If I had one, I would
[15:21] <ikonia> truepurple: does the other PC have any OS on ?
[15:21] <truepurple> No, that is the point
[15:21] <HyperShock> truepurple, if you doused either of them light fluid and set match to either one, would they have burning capabilities then?
[15:21] <truepurple> Its just assembled parts I purchased, till I get a OS or two
[15:22] <truepurple> hyper, so funny, it isn't
[15:22] <antant> with samba, can I allow different hosts differing access levels?
[15:22] <taylorgibb> whoami
[15:23] <truepurple> Anyway, that is the point of netinstall
[15:23] <truepurple> So back to the topic, why can't I make partitions AFTER installing ubuntu?
[15:23] <antant> truepurple you can if you've left space for them
[15:23] <czardoz> I think you can
[15:23] <yeats> truepurple: this is probably what you need: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[15:23] <phaseshift> antant: I think access levels are usually controlled based on user login, not IP address.  Do you have a specific reason to implement otherwise?
[15:24] <truepurple> Including swap partition?
[15:24] <alsuna> truepurple why not create partitions during install?
[15:24] <yeats> truepurple: it will take care of everything for you and downloads everything from the net
[15:24] <BluesKaj> truepurple, are you sure about the HDD being only 333mb ...sounds like you may be confusing the cpu speed with HDD capacity...I have to mention this.
[15:24] <truepurple> Yeats: I can not burn to CD!
[15:25] <yeats> truepurple: what kind of install media do you have?
[15:25] <truepurple> Alsuna: because this install is not letting me control extended and so forth, it seems
[15:25] <antant> phaseshift: well the build I'm running doesn't have different users and groups, and the filesystem is readonly (apart from data storage)
[15:25] <truepurple> Blueskaj: I am sure
[15:25] <archangelpetro> can you make a USB boot disk by doing the following command ' dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb ' ?
[15:25] <et-0nline> hey when i start my ubuntu i get error f15
[15:26] <phaseshift> antant: Which build is that, if you don't mind my asking?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> truepurple, ok, sounds like old HW , maybe you should consider something newer with more room ?
[15:26] <yeats> !usb | archangelpetro
[15:26] <truepurple> blue, that is the point of what I am doing
[15:27] <archangelpetro> yeats: wasn't quite the answer i was looking for, yes or no would suffice :P
[15:27] <yeats> truepurple: did you see my question?  what installation media do you have available
[15:27] <yeats> ?
[15:27] <antant> phaseshift: openelec. It's basically a very lightweight install with xbmc as a front ent
[15:27] <antant> I boot in about 15 seconds from cold
[15:27] <et-0nline> hey when i start my ubuntu i get error f15
[15:27] <melissaveogeli> Are you installing from Windows using a USB?
[15:27] <melissaveogeli> There is an easy 123 installer for that.
[15:27] <truepurple> yeats: I don't understand the question
[15:28] <yeats> archangelpetro: it's not a simple yes or no question - those pages provide some context for the answer
[15:28] <archangelpetro> ok nevermind what i just said yeats i see your poitn now :d
[15:28] <alsuna> et-0nline: at which point during boot do you get that error? any more information than just the number?
[15:28]  * drc boggles at the twists and turns truepurple's problem is taking...and wonders when the grues are going to turn up? :)
[15:28] <yeats> truepurple: what method were you planning to use to install ubuntu to the other computer
[15:28] <et-0nline> alsuna: when i start ubuntu
[15:29] <alsuna> et-0nline: before or after login?
[15:29] <melissaveogeli> Whoops looks like it was unix after all.
[15:29] <yeats> truepurple: your options: CD, USB, floppy, PXE server
[15:29] <truepurple> yeats: unetbootin net instal
[15:29] <DASdsad> !
[15:29] <et-0nline> alsuna: when i start ubuntu  it does't boot it shows error f15 press any key to continue then i press any key nothing happens
[15:29] <antant> phaseshift: so is there any way to do it do you think?
[15:29] <truepurple> yeats: from usb flash drive
[15:29] <DASdsad> hi
[15:29] <stittel> Hi! With gdm-guest-session installed it is possible to switch to a guest session if an user is already logged in. How can it be achieved that this guest session is also available from the login screen, i.e. without the need of an user being already logged in? The system I have here is an Ubuntu 10.10. Thanks!
[15:29] <DASdsad> question:
[15:29] <alsuna> et-0nline: any chance it's grub error 15?
[15:29] <DASdsad> which ubuntu should use
[15:29] <truepurple> yeats: not sure what PXE server is, just USB flash drive for transfering info
[15:29] <phaseshift> antant: Looking through some Samba docs right now ... what are your Samba clients going to be?  Will they authenticate with unique usernames/passwords or act as guests only?
[15:29] <yeats> truepurple: then download the minimal installer CD image and use unetbootin to put it on the USB
[15:30] <stittel> Argh, sorry, Ubuntu 10.04!
[15:30] <et-0nline> alsuna yes i get this sincei i installed another distro
[15:30] <alsuna> et-0nline: ok, this explains the error:
[15:30] <truepurple> yeats: Why? How is that better then netinstall?
[15:30] <judget> silly dumb question I thought I had a folder /usr/local/bin but noiw i onlyu seem to have /usr/bin
[15:30] <yeats> truepurple: it *is* a net install ;-)
[15:30] <et-0nline> alsuna i think i lost my grub
[15:30] <truepurple> Yeats: That is what I have been doing!
[15:31] <axscode> how i maybe able to continue apt-get install if i got disconnected from the internet? i dont want to download again.
[15:31] <antant> phaseshift: all shares are set as public, browsable, writable and available
[15:31] <kdlijian> hello, everyone.
[15:31] <truepurple> Yeats: But I wanted some info to figure out setup, but I am getting more questions then are being answered for me.
[15:31] <yeats> truepurple: you said that you can't download the ubuntu image - unetbootin is not an installer in itself
[15:31] <phaseshift> antant: Okay, and you want to lock those down based on the IP address of the client that's connecting?
[15:32] <antant> phaseshift: I wanted to change that as I don't want everyone else on my network being able to have write access to my stuff. Just me.
[15:32] <kdlijian> I have found and added the PPA for GNOME at launchpad.net
[15:32] <yeats> truepurple: unetbootin lets you put an installer image on a USB drive
[15:32] <DASdsad> which ubuntu should use
[15:32] <truepurple> yeats: unetbootin put netinstall on the usb flash drive
[15:32] <antant> phaseshift: yeah, all pcs on my network have static ips
[15:32] <kdlijian> Then I 'sudo apt-get update', now I don't know what to do next to install GNOME3 to my ubuntu.
[15:32] <DASdsad> which ubuntu should use
[15:33] <DASdsad> which ubuntu should use
[15:33] <et-0nline> i loost my grub since i installed another distro now what to do to get back grub
[15:33] <yeats> truepurple: okay - sorry - I did not understand that (also not sure which "netinstall" it has as a default) :-/
[15:33] <truepurple> yeats: SO, I can make the swap partition after installing, right?!
[15:33] <akshith> #bookz
[15:33] <et-0nline> i did not installed windows i have bsd
[15:33] <kdlijian> sudo apt-get install ???, what should be filled in ??? to install gnome3?
[15:34] <yeats> truepurple: the installer should have a partitioning step - if you select guided partitioning, it will create a swap partition for you
[15:34] <phaseshift> antant: Okay, if you have access to edit the server's smb.conf you should be able to add "hosts allow = x.x.x.x" in the global section to control access.  See http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/smb.conf.5.html#HOSTSALLOW
[15:34] <truepurple> yeats: Please answer my question
[15:34] <kdlijian> Is there a meta-package which can pull all dependencies in to install GNOME3?
[15:35] <yeats> truepurple: I did, didn't I?
[15:35] <phaseshift> antant: Does that make sense?  Perhaps OpenELEC handles things differently and a channel specific to that tool would have better advice.
[15:35] <truepurple> No
[15:35] <BluesKaj> truepurple, the swap partiton option is part of the install sequence , not after install
[15:35] <yeats> truepurple: why do you want to skip that step when installing?
[15:35] <alsuna>  et-0nline probably. i haven't had to repair my grub yet and i can't seem to find a decent english howto atm
[15:35] <antant> phaseshift: yeah, I found that too. It didn't explain how to allow different access levels based on it though
[15:35] <cablop> the 1 million question
[15:35] <cablop> is a default umask of 002 or 006 or even 007 better than the default 022 umask?
[15:35] <cablop> any concern with them?
[15:35] <truepurple> Yeats: I am tired of explaining my reasons for everything, is it possible or not?
[15:35] <yeats> truepurple: yes - it's possible - it's not easy and it's probably not for beginners
[15:36] <DrMorphias> can someone help me? i installed ubuntu but it will not boot.  I think its because of my rocketraid...
[15:36] <cablop> what thing truepurple?
[15:36] <HyperShock> truepurple, [now i'll be serious] on your own Ubuntu that you are using now, in System->administration there is a program called "startup disk creator", use it to set any usb stick to be a bonafide live ubuntu system. Then boot the offending pc with that stick, once it gets to the desktop, use the install ubuntu icon, from there wipe out all the partitions you don't want and then create the new partition layout.
[15:36] <HyperShock>  then if you have also internet you can tell it to download add'l updates.
[15:36] <phaseshift> antant: Are you looking to adjust access rights at the share level or for directories within a single share?
[15:37] <judget> nvm i thiunk i must have removed it coz alkl it had was ffmpeg that i buiult
[15:37] <phaseshift> The latter case is handled by filesystem permissions/ownership, so I'd think you'd need to create local users to implement it.
[15:37] <cablop> what is your question truepurple ?
[15:37] <gypsyjim> hey hey hello
[15:37] <truepurple> hypershock: For starters, I don't have ubuntin on this PC
[15:37] <antant> phaseshift: at share level. I want my laptop to have full access, but all others only read access
[15:38] <truepurple> cablop: Can I put a swap partition on after installing unetbootin
[15:38] <truepurple> I mean ubuntin, getting worn out here
[15:39] <drc> truepurple: you have your answer...yes, you can, its stupid but you can do it.  Now just go ahead and DO IT!
[15:39] <kdlijian> Anyone knows how to install GNOME3 in UBUNTU? PLZ.
[15:39] <gypsyjim> does anyone here use back | track
[15:40] <phaseshift> antant: And there's no way to create a local user on the server that you can use to identify yourself when connecting from the laptop?
[15:40] <ruan> !backtrack
[15:40] <truepurple> It is very complicated to do though?
[15:40] <yeats> truepurple: it's ubunt*u* and here's the information you would probably need: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[15:40] <cablop> truepurple: afaik, what they do is to adapt a cd or DVD iso to an usb, that way it won't expect for the media to be writable, you must tweak the iso a lot, what do you want it for? to install a new ubuntu or to fix existing ubuntus?
[15:40] <gypsyjim> I have just installed for the first time and then somehow got the nvidia working but there is a problem I got it working syncronicaly with apt-get
[15:41] <cablop> truepurple: in order to install ubuntu you wont need a swap in the usb stick, in order to fix computer you maybe need it, but it is not recommended
[15:41] <coz_> gypsyjim,  I no longer use backtrack ,, have you tried their irc channel?
[15:41] <oCean> gypsyjim: no backtrack support here
[15:41] <gypsyjim> what is there irc channel?
[15:41] <oCean> gypsyjim: #backtrack-linux
[15:42] <gypsyjim> ok thanks
[15:42] <HyperShock> gypsyjim, what did you install for the first time?
[15:42] <hawk_> hello
[15:42] <coz_> hawk_,  hey guy
[15:42] <Guest17973> how is it?
[15:43] <Guest17973> coz whats up
[15:43] <gypsyjim> the channel says that I am banned
[15:43] <coz_> gypsyjim,   is your name registered?
[15:43] <oCean> Guest17973: do you have a support question? chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:44] <Guest17973> what is this chat in a brief description
[15:44] <truepurple> So how complicated is it to create a swap partition after the fact?
[15:44] <oCean> truepurple: as long as you have space somewhere on your disk, you can create a partition
[15:44] <oCean> truepurple: as soon as you have a partitioin, you can set it to swap partition
[15:44] <coz_> Guest17973,  well here we do support for ubuntu ,, and the rules about that are very strict ,, any other conversations would take place in either another support channel or #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[15:44] <HyperShock> truepurple, its not really, if you use gparted and resize a partition that you aren't using and set the remaining freed space to swap. then you got it.
[15:45] <oCean> truepurple: but, you can also very easily use swap files instead of partition
[15:45] <Guest17973> gotcha thank you
[15:45] <gypsyjim> how do i register
[15:45] <coz_> no problem
[15:45] <Guest17973> good day
[15:45] <oCean> !register > gypsyjim
[15:45] <phaseshift> antant: If not, perhaps one way to handle this would be to create two Samba shares exporting the same directory.  One would be read-only and have no restrictions on host access, and the second would be writable but include a "host allow" granting access to your laptop only.
[15:45] <kdlijian> anyone knows how to install GNOME3 please?
[15:45] <coz_> kdlijian,  ah again ? :)  I have no idea,, let me check
[15:45] <truepurple> oCean
[15:46] <oCean> truepurple: what's up
[15:46] <BluesKaj> truepurple, don't think a linux install will be successful on such small hdds , so I don't see the point of you pursuing this any further.
[15:46] <truepurple> oCean: I was told it was more complicated, and that there was a slight performance hit
[15:46] <gypsyjim> apt-get install gnome
[15:46] <truepurple> blueskaj 2tb is more then enough space
[15:46] <coz_> kdlijian,     http://joneslee85.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/howto-install-gnome-shell-on-ubuntu-maverick-10-10/
[15:46] <BluesKaj> you mentioned 333mb
[15:46] <Guest17973> anyone have audacity fixes for various versions of ubuntu?
[15:47] <oCean> truepurple: when, during install process, you create partitions, normally one would create a swap partition at that point. If you do not want to, or for whatever reason, you CAN create swap space after the install
[15:47] <truepurple> That is on my current PC, my new PC I am trying to install on has 2tb
[15:48] <BluesKaj> truepurple, then you probly have more than 4gigs of ram, swap is probly not needed in that case
[15:48] <oCean> BluesKaj: well, that all depends on the usage of the system
[15:48]  * drc thinks this is where he came in (again) and decides to come back later when truepurple has either solved his problem or gone away in disgust :(
[15:48] <kdlijian> coz_: Thanks for the link, but I can't access it here in my place.
[15:48] <fedora_newb> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[15:49] <fedora_newb> whats required for that?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> oCean, everything depends on the usage of the system...I'm referring to "normal" usage
[15:49] <truepurple> 8gb, but there is still hybernation
[15:49] <kdlijian> I have found and added the PPA, then does 'gnome-shell' mean gnome3?
[15:49] <plexsurf> hi is there a equivalent of notepad++ on ubuntu?
[15:49] <coz_> kdlijian,  hold on
[15:50] <coz_> kdlijian,   did you try   sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[15:50] <kdlijian> coz_: No. I just hang on not knowing what to be installed for all GNOME3 packages.
[15:51] <oCean> kdlijian: you do realise that installing from PPA's does void your warranty? Well at least your support here
[15:51] <melissaveogeli> What is /pool for ?
[15:51] <melissaveogeli> For ubuntu installations
[15:51] <phaseshift> plexsurf: The standard gEdit included with GNOME might suit your purposes.  Otherwise you can look at http://alternativeto.net/software/notepad-plus-plus/ for ideas.
[15:52] <plexsurf> ok thanks!
[15:53] <kdlijian> Thanks.
[15:53] <coz_> kdlijian,  well gnome-shell is essentially gnome3  ,, if you want test it   ,, personally I would google and youtube  gnome shell  aka gnome3
[15:53] <plexsurf> i also found scite - the original version of notepad++!
[15:54] <plexsurf> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=526586
[15:54] <kdlijian> coz_: I have tried gnome3 by the OPENSUSE live CD. I know it.
[15:55] <kdlijian> coz_: Thanks for your attention.
[15:55] <zacktu> i just did a manual dual boot install of maverick -- it's different than others i've done because the installer suggests where to put the boot manager -- i let the installer do things its way, and now i have two links to windows 7 in the boot menu: 1) from sda1, the original boot partition, and 2) from sda2, the original windows partition -- both links work -- i'm just curious to know what's...
[15:55] <zacktu> ...going on in each partition
[15:56] <BluesKaj> poor gnome 3 ...looks more cartooney than ever ...wonder when Homer Simpson becomes the mascot :)
[15:56] <bartek> #5on5.et
[15:57] <ZenT510> zacktu: not sure what you mean, are you looking for info on partitioning?
[15:58] <raylee> helllo i need help
[15:58] <raylee> on my ubuntu
[15:58] <ranjan> raylee, just start asking
[15:58] <raylee> yea i been having alot of flash problems
[15:58] <raylee> on my ubuntu distro
[15:58] <ranjan> raylee,  just start giving your problem
[15:58] <raylee> like when i watch yt vids it would cash
[15:59] <cgcardona> how can i locate my apache httpd.conf file?
[15:59] <soreau> cgcardona: locate httpd.conf
[15:59] <Cheery> what's the clipboard system ubuntu is using
[15:59] <Cheery> ?
[15:59] <zacktu> ZenT510: i have always done all partitioning for ubuntu  prior to installation -- no problem there -- but in the past i've created a /boot partition and used it --- the installer for 10.10 was different because it suggested which partition should be the boot partition
[15:59] <mp__> cgcardona: it's usually in /etc/apache2/
[15:59] <cgcardona> i'm getting locate: command not found
[15:59] <cgcardona> mp__: that httpd.conf file in that directory is blank
[16:00] <soreau> cgcardona: Really? Which version of ubuntu?
[16:00] <cgcardona> i am looking for the one that will let me uncomment mod_rewrite
[16:00] <oCean> cgcardona: it is the apache2.conf
[16:00] <cgcardona> how do i figure out which version -  i think its 10.10
[16:00] <et-0nline> hello when i start my ubuntu it shows just grub> what to do here
[16:00] <cgcardona> oCean: so it is - thanks :)
[16:01] <cgcardona> hmmm should I see this line in apache2.conf? #LoadModule rewrite_module modules/mod_rewrite.so
[16:02] <phaseshift> et-0nline: A grub> prompt would indicate a failure with the bootloader that does the first stage of booting up ... was there any other error provided on your screen beforehand?
[16:02] <oCean> cgcardona: i'd say a "sudo a2enmod rewrite" would do the trick
[16:03] <eirikb> Hello. Is there a Debian sid equivalent for Ubuntu?
[16:03] <ikonia> eirikb: no
[16:03] <et-0nline> phaseshift: yes before i had error f15 then i used this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub now i just see grub> when i start my computer
[16:03] <cipherboy> eirikb: what do you mean? there is an alpha version available to test
[16:03] <eirikb> ikonia: Ok. I'm basically looking for rolling releases
[16:04] <cipherboy> eirikb: ubuntu 11.04 is in development, you might want to try that.
[16:04] <TTY_problem> hello. i have a big problem: I cannot login via TTY because my password uses "!" character and when I try to type it writes [31~ !
[16:04] <phaseshift> et-0nline: Okay, let me just read through that.
[16:04] <ZenT510> zacktu: i've always partitioned with the installer (essentially gparted) and made only a / partition, never tried a suggested install, i've always done custom disk partitioning
[16:04] <soreau> TTY_problem: Try the other shift button?
[16:04] <eirikb> cipherboy: But when it's released, then it will go stable right? I guess that is not similar to running sid?
[16:04] <TTY_problem> soreau: I did, same thing
[16:05] <soreau> TTY_problem: That sounds like a problem. Maybe you will have to file a bug
[16:05] <TTY_problem> OK the problem is not the shight or alt
[16:05] <TTY_problem> shift
[16:05] <TTY_problem> the problem is the number "1!
[16:05] <TTY_problem> the problem is the number "1"
[16:05] <cipherboy> eirikb: yes, it will go to stable, but shortly there after the next version 11.10 will start development.
[16:05] <eirikb> cipherboy: But I would have to dist upgrade then, right?
[16:05] <yeats> TTY_problem: were you able to run a live CD to test your keyboard?
[16:05] <phaseshift> et-0nline: Which method from that page did you follow?  There are several options.
[16:06] <cipherboy> eirikb: yes, or you could transition your /etc/apt/sources.list over to the next version.
[16:06] <et-0nline> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[16:06] <eirikb> cipherboy: What do you mean?
[16:06] <et-0nline> i wanted to get back my grub
[16:07] <et-0nline> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444 /dev/sda
[16:07] <et-0nline> now i see just grub>
[16:07] <yeats> eirikb: he mean that you can just upgrade to the next development version after the current one is released
[16:07] <TTY_problem> yeats: it's ubuntu server
[16:07] <TTY_problem> soreau: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=keSY0y1j
[16:07] <eirikb> yeats: I thought to do that I would have to change my sources.list and do a dist-upgrade
[16:08] <cipherboy> eirikb: yes and no. you can modify the sources.list and then do a regular update.
[16:08] <n8w1ng> hey
[16:08] <cipherboy> eirikb: and upgrade.
[16:08] <yeats> TTY_problem: ok - well I would probably rule out the hardware problem by running a live CD before concluding that this is an ubuntu bug
[16:08] <eirikb> cipherboy: Oh.. hmm. In debian I always dist-upgrade when I change the version name
[16:08] <n8w1ng> how can i increase the number of scrollable lines in bash?
[16:08] <yeats> eirikb: or 'sudo update-manager -d'
[16:08] <itaylor57> eirikb: ubuntu does not follow the rolling release philosophy
[16:09] <phaseshift> et-0nline: Okay, did you get any errors from the grub-install?
[16:09] <raylee> does anyone have flash problems on ubuntu
[16:09] <et-0nline> NO
[16:09] <cipherboy> n8w1ng: right click in the term window and change the default profile
[16:09] <eirikb> itaylor57: Neither does Debian right? But if I run sid I would get close to that philosophy
[16:09] <BluesKaj> eirikb, upgrade the OS version , desktop or ??
[16:09] <cipherboy> n8w1ng: look at the scrolling tab.
[16:09] <itaylor57> eirikb: you will be closer to broke mostly
[16:09] <n8w1ng> cipherboy:  hmm on a server...no gui avaiable;)
[16:09] <zacktu> ZenT510: in the past i've had 4 partitions: /, /boot, /home, and swap -- and specified all four while doing a manual install -- the installer for 10.10 wanted to tell me where to put the boot manager -- the suggested location was sda1, which is the boot partition for windows -- what i'm curious about is that i now have two links in the boot menu -- one link to the boot partition and one to...
[16:09] <zacktu> ...the windows partition - i don't want to change anything unless something's broken
[16:09] <phaseshift> et-0nline: Which Ubuntu release are we talking about here?  10.10?
[16:10] <et-0nline> yes
[16:10] <eirikb> itaylor57: I have servers running both sid and squeeze and sid seems to work well for me
[16:10] <cipherboy> n8w1ng: use the less command: long-command | less
[16:10] <eirikb> itaylor57: But I see your point
[16:10] <n8w1ng> cipherboy:  i mean should b able to hardcode it somewhere...what i can do in gui i should b able to do by editin certain files rite?
[16:11] <ZenT510> zacktu: you said they both work fine though, so i don't know why you want to change them?
[16:11] <cbkia> when I on my laptop,instead of the grub list,I see the grub> command prompt.. Any ideas to login into windows
[16:11] <cipherboy> n8w1ng: if you are sshing in from a different ubuntu system, my method will work.
[16:11] <et-0nline> cbkia i have allso same problem with grub
[16:11] <Aikar> anyone recommend an alternative to Liferea for RSS reading and desktop notifications? I hate how liferea hits disk so hard and lags out every time its updating feeds/marking read :/
[16:11] <soreau> cbkia: When did this start happening?
[16:11] <eirikb> cbkia: I guess your grub stage 1 can't find stage 2. You need to reinstall grub and make stage 1 in MBR point to correct stage 2
[16:11] <cipherboy> n8w1ng: and do you mean command history, or what has been the output?
[16:12] <soreau> ! grub2 | et-0nline cbkia
[16:12] <zacktu> ZenT510: my original post was to ask why this had happened and whether it is expected
[16:12] <n8w1ng> cipherboy:  the output...i wanna b able to scroll back up more lines
[16:12] <eirikb> cbkia: If you have a live cd that has grub (like arch has) you could select boot existing OS, hit TAB and change to where you know your windows boot is at
[16:12] <riptly> So, I added myself to group www-data, and the directory is created by www-data, but I still can't do anything within that directory without using sudo command? Any hints on what I'm doing wrong?
[16:12] <et-0nline> yes i followed those steps and i get this grub>
[16:13] <et-0nline> i followed that tutorial ubuntu
[16:13] <et-0nline> grub
[16:13] <cbkia> eirikb, soreau : i will follow it
[16:13] <ZenT510> zacktu: grub2 is usually installed on the mbr, and resides in the /boot partition (or if you didn't specify seperate /boot it will be under /)
[16:13] <zacktu> ZenT510: thanks
[16:14] <ZenT510> zacktu: np, sorry i'm a little slow to understand today
[16:14] <cipherboy> n8w1ng: you are connecting to your server from an ubuntu system, right?
[16:14] <cipherboy> n8w1ng: bash saves all your lines, your terminal (gnome-terminal by default) doesn't.
[16:14] <n8w1ng> cipherboy: ohh man,sry for bein stupid...ye i got it now
[16:15] <n8w1ng> cipherboy:  thx;)
[16:15] <intrader> my top grub selection boots to a text terminal and offers login. When I login, it does to the a text terminal with my home directory. `sudo startx` fails back to text terminal with login
[16:15] <cipherboy> n8w1ng: any time.
[16:15] <phaseshift> et-0nline: I guess I'm not familiar with the new grub2 stuff ... anyone else have experience here?
[16:16] <cipherboy> et-0nline: whats the prob? update-grub2 might help
[16:16] <imetallica> will Ubuntu 11.04 incorporate GNOME 3?
[16:16] <et-0nline> iam in here grub>_
[16:16] <et-0nline> what to type in here updated-grub2
[16:16] <cipherboy> et-0nline: can you boot from live cd and mount your hard drive?
[16:17] <ZenT510> imetallica: no, it uses unity, and you can ask about it in #ubuntu+1
[16:17] <intrader> please help with to make it boot properly
[16:17] <et-0nline> cipherboy no now i can not even start my cdrom drive it shows grub>
[16:17] <cipherboy> et-0nline: then you can chroot into it, run update-grub2, reboot, and run update-grub2 again (both times as root or with sudo).
[16:17] <yeats> intrader: what model graphics card do you have?
[16:18] <imetallica> ummm right I was wondering 'cos probably GNOME 3 is more fat then 2 :)
[16:18] <cipherboy> et-0nline: just hold the power button until it dies and then start it up again.
[16:18] <ymasory> is it possible to give all users (including non-sudoers) permission to run a certain script as root?
[16:18] <cipherboy> ymasory: yes, look at editing the sudoers file.
[16:18] <Aikar> ymasory: or set that script itself to run suid
[16:18] <riptly> I have a directory which I did "chown -R www-data:www-data www" on, even still I can't create/modify within the directory without using the sudo command, can anyone explain why?
[16:19] <ymasory> okay i'll take a look, thanks cipherboy, Aikar
[16:19] <Aikar> ymasory: chmod 4755 /bin/script
[16:19] <Flannel> riptly: Are you in the www-data group?
[16:19] <riptly> I also added myself to www-data group using the usermod command.
[16:19] <et-0nline> cipherboy now i am running live cd
[16:19] <kushalone> Hi, I am on an asus n61j series that has a nvidia geforce gt325m graphics card. I was wondering if there has been any progress with the drivers. The last time I tried, it locked up my system
[16:19] <yeats> riptly: because you are not the www-data user?
[16:19] <riptly> Flannel: I added myself to it, yes.
[16:19] <yanleb0334> hey how do i transfer my files from windows to ubuntu from the C drive?
[16:19] <cipherboy> et-0nline: okay, open up a terminal (applications -> accessories -> terminal) and type: sudo fdisk -l
[16:20] <riptly> Flannel: Do I need to flush the privileges somehow perhaps?
[16:20] <yeats> riptly: reading back now - see that you've thought of that ;-)
[16:20] <et-0nline> cipherboy hold on its loading
[16:20] <intrader> yeats, where do I look. I am able to but the previous kernel to full guy. I am executing there. I just can't boot the top grub selection
[16:20] <Flannel> riptly: Have you logged back in on that terminal since then? (if you type 'groups' do you see www-data?)
[16:20] <ymasory> Aikar: so i did the chmod, and it changed something, but the script still returns the regular username (not root) as the current user
[16:20] <riptly> yeats: Okey, so I need to be the user, otherwise I'll have to use the sudo command within that directory?
[16:20] <Flannel> riptly: Also, Do those folders (particularly www/) have +w set for group? or just user?
[16:20] <Flannel> riptly: No, not at all.
[16:21] <Aikar> ymasory: its still running with root perms
[16:21] <yanleb0334> hey how do i transfer windows files to ubuntu with the C drive?
[16:21] <cipherboy> et-0nline: actually, once you get it loaded, run: `sudo apt-get install pastebinit`
[16:21] <yeats> intrader: open the terminal and type 'lspci | grep VGA' - you should see your card's model
[16:21] <yanleb0334> hey how do i transfer windows files to ubuntu with the C drive
[16:21] <riptly> Flannel: drwxr-xr-x is set, and I haven't relogged my ssh connection, will do now.
[16:22] <bonjoyee> yanleb0334: copy paste?
[16:22] <cipherboy> et-0nline: and once that gets done, you can run `sudo fdisk -l 2>&1 | pastebinit` and paste the address.
[16:22] <Flannel> riptly: Right, so rwx (user) r-x (group) r-x (everyone), you need it to have write permissions for group as well.
[16:22] <ZenT510> yanleb0334: mount the windows drive and look for your files
[16:22] <yanleb0334> where
[16:22] <coz_> yanleb0334,  yeah under the Places menu  you should see your c drive listed
[16:22] <et-0nline> cipher i dont think i have internetconnection with live cd
[16:22] <yanleb0334> where is the places menu
[16:22] <yeats> yanleb0334: you're in windows now?
[16:22] <coz_> yanleb0334,  click that,, open it then simply copy paste,,, drag and drop
[16:23] <coz_> yanleb0334,  at the top left of the monitor
[16:23] <intrader> yeats, '01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 Go] (rev b2)'
[16:23] <riptly> Flannel: Okey, I reconnected my ssh connection and groups now show both my user and www-data as expected (it didn't before). To change that privileges for group I chmod, correct?
[16:23] <cipherboy> et-0nline: okay, then post the output of: `fdisk -l 2>&1 | grep -i 'linux'`
[16:23] <ymasory> Aikar: does the fact that it's a python script have something to do with the fact that it's not working?
[16:23] <coz_> yanleb0334,   Applications  Places   System
[16:23] <cipherboy> et-0nline: first type sudo su though
[16:23] <Flannel> riptly: Right, chmod g+w
[16:23] <coz_> yanleb0334,  of course that is dependent on your DE = desktop environment ,  being gnome
[16:23] <yeats> !nvidia | intrader: see if this link helps
[16:23] <et-0nline> cipherboy please one step at time, my ubuntu live cd try ubuntu its loading loading loading and nothing happens
[16:24] <yanleb0334> what do you mean
[16:24] <riptly> Flannel: the g is to specify to only add write (+w) privilege to group, am I understanding that correctly?
[16:24] <leftist> an associate was attempting to install an app and now when he reboots his pw isnt accepted at login. is there somewhere i can point him to resolve his dilema?
[16:24] <BluesKaj> !alternate | et-0nline
[16:24] <coz_> yanleb0334,   at the top left of your monitor... do you see  Applications  Places  System
[16:24] <yeats> yanleb0334: are you using Ubuntu or Windows right now?
[16:24] <yanleb0334> coz_, no i do not.... im in ubuntu
[16:25] <cipherboy> et-0nline: so you do not have gnome yet?
[16:25] <coz_> yanleb0334,  take a screenshot.... hit printscreen... and upload that image to  picpaste.com
[16:25] <coz_> yanleb0334,  then give us the link to that uploaded image
[16:25] <yanleb0334> kk
[16:25] <et-0nline> cipherboy i restarted my computer again it was hanging with out reason
[16:25] <intrader> yeats, why are we looking at driver, when the problem is about booting the top selection that grub offers. Previous kernel boots Ok into GUI
[16:26] <cipherboy> et-0nline: any text?
[16:26] <cipherboy> et-0nline: you are much more likely to get help on the ubuntu forums for this type of stuff.
[16:26] <et-0nline> cipherboy i just restarted my computer dunno whats going on now it goes back to grub>
[16:26] <leftist> an associate was attempting to install an app and now when he reboots his pw isnt accepted at login. is there somewhere i can point him to resolve his dilema?
[16:26] <cipherboy> et-0nline: restart again, and make sure you have it set to boot from cd.
[16:27] <yanleb0334> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-QZlb4atg.png
[16:27] <cipherboy> et-0nline: you shouldn't get grub> again.
[16:27] <et-0nline> cipherboy somehow even when i  bootfrom cd it goes to grub>
[16:28] <leftist> what can you do if your password isnt accepted at login?
[16:28] <et-0nline> now  restarted again it started ubuntu
[16:28] <ZenT510> yanleb0334: you are using netbook version?
[16:28] <coz_> leftist,  look here   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[16:28] <yanleb0334> i guess so
[16:28] <yanleb0334> what is the difference
[16:28] <leftist> thanks coz_
[16:28] <cipherboy> et-0nline: the live cd or your install? what hardware do you have?
[16:29] <et-0nline> cipherboy the live cd install ubuntu try ubuntu i use try ubuntu
[16:29] <coz_> leftist,  no problem
[16:29] <cipherboy> et-0nline: try ubuntu
[16:29] <coz_> yanleb0334,  ah  netbook
[16:29] <cipherboy> et-0nline: now what happens? does it hang?
[16:29] <yanleb0334> what are you using
[16:30] <et-0nline> cipherboy its loading ....
[16:30] <ZenT510> !unr | yanleb0334
[16:30] <et-0nline> dunno why it goes so slowly i have pentium IV
[16:30] <coz_> yanleb0334,  well first let me say ,, when talking to someone  type the first 2 or 3  letters of their name and hit the Tab key to complete it,, type you message,, they will alerted on their end
[16:30] <yeats> intrader: sorry - good point - didn't mean to lead you on a wild goose chase...  can you boot into recovery mode and reconfigure X?
[16:30] <cipherboy> et-0nline: cds boot slowly. be patient. what version of ubuntu do you have on your hard drive?
[16:31] <et-0nline> 10 the latest
[16:31] <coz_> yanleb0334,  I use gnome...and netbook is also based on that so hold on let me go to my netbook and check the easy way to get to your windows drive
[16:31] <cipherboy> et-0nline: k.
[16:31] <yeats> intrader: that is, recovery mode for the latest kernel
[16:31] <yanleb0334> coz_, thx...
[16:32] <intrader> yeats, recovery mode it is, I will try. How do I see this list in another laptop running windows?
[16:32] <et-0nline> cipherboy voila now i see gnome
[16:32] <yeats> intrader: list?
[16:32] <yanleb0334> coz_, can you save a screen print of your screen so i can see what gnome looks like so i could maybe consider getting it?
[16:32] <cipherboy> et-0nline: now open up the terminal (applications -> accessories -> terminal)
[16:33] <cipherboy> et-0nline: and check if you have internet.
[16:33] <et-0nline> yes
[16:33] <et-0nline> no internet
[16:33] <melkor> Is anybody here having difficulty with flash 64bit? It seems to run way too fast.
[16:33] <intrader> yeats, this Xchat session in IRC (I called it list)
[16:34] <cipherboy> et-0nline: do you have a wired or wireless connection regularly?
[16:34] <taglete> 32bit in my computer
[16:34] <bonjoyee> melkor: what version of flash?
[16:34] <coz_> yanleb0334,    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/Screenshot.png
[16:34] <yeats> intrader: if you have Firefox, I recommend Chatzilla https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chatzilla/
[16:34] <yanleb0334> coz_, thx
[16:34] <melkor> bonjoyee: square player built on November 10 2010.
[16:35] <coz_> yanleb0334,  when you click the ubuntu logo at the top left,, does a search window open  or application window?
[16:35] <et-0nline> cipherboy wirless connection
[16:35] <melkor> bonjoyee: Its odd because the flashplayer hasn't changed since this problem started.
[16:35] <yanleb0334> coz_, i think its an application window
[16:36] <cipherboy> et-0nline: can you connect to wireless? it would be best to have pastebinit
[16:36] <coz_> yanleb0334,  ok hold on
[16:36] <bonjoyee> melkor: i use the same...but don't seem to have any issues yet..
[16:36] <yanleb0334> coz_, kk
[16:36] <melkor> bonjoyee: what video drivers are you using?
[16:37] <Eagle_I> Hello, can I have a little help?
[16:37] <et-0nline> cipherboy done i have inteernet connection established
[16:37] <bonjoyee> melkor: radeon (linux default )
[16:37] <cipherboy> et-0nline: now open up the terminal and type `sudo su`
[16:37] <coz_> yanleb0334,  do you know which version of ubuntu you are on?
[16:37] <et-0nline> done
[16:37] <yanleb0334> coz_, 10.10
[16:37] <Eagle_I> I need to export a website from the TwistedWeb server.
[16:37] <cbkia> Hi, I tried sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444 /dev/sda --force ... But I cant still restore my grub.. It still arrives on the grub prompt
[16:37] <cipherboy> et-0nline: then run: `apt-get install pastebinit`
[16:37] <coz_> yanleb0334,   ok hold on
[16:38] <cipherboy> et-0nline: and then: `fdisk -l 2>&1 | pastebinit`
[16:38] <et-0nline> unable to locate packege pastebinit
[16:38] <Eagle_I> And put it in an archive. (tar, tar.gz, et cetera)
[16:38] <melkor> bonjoyee: yeah that is what I am using, but from a repo, it could be my kernel, thanks for the info.
[16:38] <cipherboy> et-0nline: then run: `apt-get update ; apt-get install pastebinit` but you might need to enable the multiverse and universe repos.
[16:38] <bonjoyee> melkor: good luck..
[16:38] <cbkia> Hi, I tried sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444  /dev/sda --force ... But I cant still restore my grub.. It still arrives on the grub prompt
[16:39] <et-0nline> do i need to type those '
[16:39] <et-0nline> 'apt get
[16:39] <et-0nline> or just apt-get
[16:39] <Psydoll> sudo apt-get install program
[16:39]  * Eagle_I needs a bit of help with the TwistedWeb server....
[16:39] <cipherboy> et-0nline: no '
[16:39] <bonjoyee> cbkia: trying to restore grub from a live cd?
[16:40] <cbkia> bonjoyee: how do i restore grub...
[16:40] <Flannel> riptly: Right
[16:40] <bonjoyee> cbkia: what are you trying to do?
[16:40] <barberan> grub2?
[16:40] <et-0nline> cipherboy apt get update done
[16:40] <coz_> yanleb0334,  ok this is going to be a bit  of a long way around t his since I am not super efficient with netbook ,  however  open a terminal and type   gnome-keybinding-properties
[16:40] <yanleb0334> coz_, terminal???
[16:40] <cbkia> bonjoyee: i just wanna log into my windows partition
[16:40] <et-0nline> apt-get install pastebinit unable to locate package pastebinit
[16:41] <cipherboy> et-0nline: enable multiverse and universe repos.
[16:41] <et-0nline> how i do that
[16:41] <riptly> Flannl: Thank you! So quickly, if I wanted to add to more, I could say chmod ga+w dir/ that would add it group and all? (which I wont, but in practice I could)
[16:41] <coz_> yanleb0334, hold on
[16:41] <cipherboy> et-0nline: in synaptic\
[16:41] <drc> Eagle_I: Try #twisted or #twistedweb
[16:41] <bonjoyee> cbkia: can you boot into ubuntu?
[16:41] <Dazzled1> Is there a way to uniquely identify a machine without being root/using sudo?
[16:41] <Eagle_I> @cbkia If you are on ubuntu desktop (wubi) go to /host.
[16:41] <intrader> yeats, I don't know how to start it there - it is installed.
[16:41] <Eagle_I> thanks drc
[16:41] <Dazzled1> I mean, reading the HDD serial number or something
[16:41] <yeats> intrader: chatzilla?
[16:41] <cbkia> cbkia: booting into ubuntu is another thing.. My installation failed.
[16:41] <erUSUL> Dazzled1: identify? you mean get the hostname¿
[16:42] <cipherboy> et-0nline: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enable-the-universe-and-multiverse-repositories-in-ubuntu-804-hardy.html
[16:42] <judy> How do I fire up thunderbird while someone else is logged into the GUI?
[16:42] <bonjoyee> cbkia: at what point?
[16:42] <coz_> yanleb0334,  well click that ubuntu logo at the top left ,, when the applications open look for gnome terminal
[16:42] <cipherboy> et-0nline: a bit out dated, but still applies.
[16:42] <Dazzled1> erUSUL: no, I want to be able to check if certain software is running on the right clients
[16:42] <cbkia> bonjoyee: while installing , it said there was some problem with my HD
[16:42] <yeats> intrader: Tools -> Chatzilla
[16:43] <yanleb0334> coz_, ok can you repeat what you want me to write please
[16:43] <Dazzled1> someone told me a hard disk and certain other parts have ID's that you can read out
[16:43] <coz_> YankDownUnder,   gnome-keybinding-properties
[16:43] <coz_> YankDownUnder,  sorry
[16:43] <erUSUL> Dazzled1: try to run it if it fails it is not installed?
[16:43] <et-0nline> cipherboy software sources is that synpactic package maanager
[16:43] <coz_> yanleb0334,    gnome-keybinding-properties
[16:43] <bonjoyee> cbkia: so now when you boot up what happens? (installing grub won't help your case if ubuntu install has failed)
[16:43] <stjohnmedrano> sorry but i have to ask you this, does anyone here know a link of different image of official ubuntu cd release?
[16:43] <coz_> yanleb0334,  tell me when that opens
[16:43] <JulienC> hello
[16:43] <cipherboy> et-0nline: not really, but did you follow the instructions I sent?
[16:44] <intrader> yeats, sorry, crazy, no tools menu on firefox 4.0
[16:44] <cbkia> bonjoyee: i am just stuck up into the grub> prompt
[16:44] <grawgraw> test
[16:44] <et-0nline> cipherboy yes i can not find software sources
[16:44] <yanleb0334> coz_, its open
[16:44] <cipherboy> et-0nline: if so, then run (in the terminal): `apt-get update ; apt-get install pastebinit` without the
[16:44] <coz_> yanleb0334,  ok scroll down that list and look for  "Search"
[16:44] <cipherboy> et-0nline: Then follow the second set of instructions (farther down) on how to do it with synaptic.
[16:44] <coz_> yanleb0334,  tell me the default keyboard shortcut for that
[16:44] <TTY_problem> changed the keyboard and now it works!
[16:45] <yeats> intrader: Firefox button -> Tools
[16:45] <vanillaslice> hello
[16:45] <bonjoyee> cbkia: you have 2 options: try an ubuntu install again or repair the windows mbr..
[16:45] <yanleb0334> xf86search
[16:45] <yanleb0334> coz_,  xf86search
[16:45] <intrader> yeats, got it, I will  go there now
[16:45] <cbkia> bonjoyee: how to repair the windows mbr.. any lins
[16:45] <et-0nline> unable to locate package pastebinit
[16:45] <yeats> intrader: cool - I'm stepping away, but keep asking your questions to the channel
[16:45] <bonjoyee> cbkia: what version of windows?
[16:45] <mkanyicy> hi vanillaslice
[16:45] <cbkia> bonjoyee: vista
[16:46] <cipherboy> et-0nline: did you follow the instructions on how to add the multiverse and universe repositories in synaptic?
[16:46] <grawgraw> can anyone help me understand something about apache proxies?  i want to forward requests for a certain url to port 8080... so I'm using "ProxyPass" and "ProxyPassReverse".  This works for local network machines, but requests from external IPs will time out :(
[16:46] <coz_> yanleb0334,  mm  where you see the xf86search  click that to change the keybinding to something easier like   alt home button so when you click that  hit the alt and home buttons on the keyboard
[16:46] <wowotou> sd
[16:46] <bonjoyee> cbkia: try ##windows
[16:46] <coz_> yanleb0334,  you can use another keybinding other than that but its likely that one is not used on the system
[16:46] <taglete> :/list
[16:46] <Psydoll> how different is ubuntu from back track?
[16:46] <taglete> :/LIST
[16:46] <et-0nline> cipherboy that tutorial is for 8 ubuntu i am on ubuntu 10
[16:46] <et-0nline> it does not help
[16:46] <yanleb0334> coz_,  ok i changed it
[16:47] <cbkia> bonjoyee: Isnt it possible from re-installing grub
[16:47] <coz_> yanleb0334,  ok close that window  and then hit the same keybinding you changed it to
[16:47] <cipherboy> et-0nline: yes it does, if you follow the 2nd set of instructions. they work on all versions just about (if you follow the instructions on how to add them from synaptic).
[16:47] <yanleb0334> coz_,  ok it opened it
[16:47] <coz_> yanleb0334,  when you do that another window opens ...yes?
[16:47] <yanleb0334> coz_, yes
[16:47] <coz_> yanleb0334,  ok and the window has  Name contains:  and below that "Look in folder"  ...yes?
[16:47] <bonjoyee> cbkia: no...becoz even if you install grub to the mbr...you need a grub2 install under /boot for it to work...
[16:48] <yanleb0334> coz_,  yup
[16:48] <cipherboy> anyone know how to add multiverse and universe repositories from the command line?
[16:48] <bonjoyee> cbkia: which you won't have without linux/ubuntu install...
[16:48] <coz_> yanleb0334,   ok the "Look in folder"  has a pulldown menu,, see if your C drive is listed there
[16:48] <et-0nline> cipherboy i do search mltivers on synaptic no package is selected
[16:48] <yanleb0334> coz_, is it named as file system
[16:49] <mkanyicy> et-0nline, i think cipherboy says enable universe and multiverse repositories first
[16:49] <cipherboy> et-0nline: dont search click on settings and then repositories.
[16:49] <intrader_> yeats, I am on chatzilla on windows - do you hear me there?
[16:49] <mkanyicy> et-0nline, have you done that
[16:49] <cbkia> bonjoyee: kk, roger tt... i will try installing ubuntu one more time
[16:49] <coz_> yanleb0334,  ok type something you know is on that drive  and hit "Find" at the bottom...when the list of files is shown simply right click one of them   and choose open folder   ,, nautilus will open and you will be able to maneuver anywhere on that drive
[16:49] <et-0nline> cipherboy yes now i am followin what you are saying
[16:49] <coz_> yanleb0334,   then simply right click the file you want to transfer and copy paste it
[16:50] <et-0nline> cipherboy pastebinit installed
[16:50] <drc> intrader: yeats said he stepped away for a while...he said continue asking questions in channel
[16:50] <intrader_> drc, do you see me here
[16:50] <cipherboy> et-0nline: k, now run this from the terminal: `sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit` without quotes and post the link
[16:51] <yanleb0334> coz_,  how do i find the music..should it be in there as well, i use itunes
[16:51] <drc> yeats: nope, can't see you :)...yes you are visable
[16:51] <coz_> yanleb0334,  if nautilus opened you should be able to go anywhere on the C drive to look for itunes ,,, look in My Documents
[16:51] <et-0nline> cipherboy:http://pastebin.com/d587ChU6
[16:51] <ilea> i have a whierles network close to where i live and linux dosnt see it when i click on internet conections to choose and conect can someone tell me why it dosnt work?
[16:52] <ilea> now i am conected with my phone
[16:52] <ikonia> ilea: probably because your card is not supported in linux out of the box
[16:52] <bonjoyee> ilea: does it "see" other wireless networks?
[16:52] <cipherboy> et-0nline: do you have two linux installs? if so, which is ubuntu 10?
[16:52] <ilea> no
[16:52] <coz_> yanleb0334,  to be honest,, I am not a big fan of netbook ,, not even slightly ..so there may well be a much easier way of doing this
[16:53] <et-0nline> cipherboy yes i have ubuntu i installed first then i installed debian
[16:53] <yanleb0334> coz_,  is gnome a free software
[16:53] <ilea> and aat a neighbour it works
[16:53] <drc> intrader: nope, can't see you :)...yes you are visable
[16:53] <ilea> he haves wi-fi
[16:53] <mkanyicy> et-0nline, what are you trying to achieve?
[16:53] <mycosys> is there some way to make karmic wait for fsck to complete on startup BEFORE deciding not to mount a drive and continue on?
[16:53] <ikonia> yanleb0334: yes
[16:53] <bonjoyee> ilea: on your computer?
[16:53] <cipherboy> et-0nline: then run: `mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /mnt` if it is ext4 partitioned, else modify the ext4 for the correct type.
[16:53] <et-0nline> mkanyicy i loost my grub
[16:53] <yanleb0334> coz_, do you find it much better than the one i am currently running
[16:53] <intrader> drc, now chatzilla is telling me 'This nixkname is registered. Please choose a...
[16:54] <coz_> yanleb0334,  of course    gnome is free  :)
[16:54] <Luche> whois
[16:54] <ilea> he haves wi-fi on his laptop he can conect to wi-fi and for me linux dosnt see it
[16:54] <douglasl> how can I make my ubuntu notebook sound come out of my ubuntu desktop thru my network?
[16:54] <yanleb0334> coz_, ok how do i uninstall the current os
[16:54] <cipherboy> et-0nline: actually, run this: `umount /mnt ; fsck /dev/sda1`
[16:54] <cipherboy> et-0nline: it might just be that your disk is corrupt.
[16:54] <coz_> yanleb0334,  if you want to try it  either open a terminal and type   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  or   sudo synaptic  and search for ubuntu-desktop in there
[16:54] <ikonia> douglasl: network sound is never good
[16:54] <mkanyicy> cipherboy, et-0nline the '-t' option is not needed anymore, mount autodetects filesystem type
[16:54] <drc> intrader: you've registered your nick?
[16:54] <douglasl> ikonia, oh?\
[16:54] <mycosys> completed an upgrade to karmic, got the shock of my life when i found one of my drives unmounted, eventually figured out fsck was running in the background and it had continued on
[16:55] <coz_> yanleb0334,  then log off ,, type in your password ,, and at the bottom under "Sessions"  choose gnome desktop or Ubuntu..not sure  how it might be listed there
[16:55] <cipherboy> mkanyicy: thanks, good to know for future reference.
[16:55] <juk> !hardware > ilea
[16:55] <intrader> drc, it was all Ok until I disconnected the ubuntu xchat - I am on a windows machine using chatzilla
[16:56] <yanleb0334> so i can access both gnome and ubuntu 10.10 netbook from this
[16:56] <intrader> drc, recovery console gives the option to dpkg - repair broken packages - should I do that?
[16:57] <douglasl> ikonia, is there a ncurses app that I can play youtube audio thru?
[16:57] <drc> intrader: Don't know, have never had to use it...I was just replay yeats
[16:57] <bonjoyee> yanleb0334: you could live with it....from next version standard ubuntu will have a similar interface...
[16:57] <mkanyicy> mycosys, isnt karmic very old?
[16:57] <drc>  message because you obviously didn't get it
[16:57] <cipherboy> douglasl: no.
[16:57] <mycosys> mkanyicy - not really
[16:57] <mycosys> a year or so
[16:58] <mycosys> is a step on the way to lucid
[16:58] <et-0nline> cipherboy dev/sda1/is mounted warning if you continued you will cause severe filesystem damage
[16:58] <intrader> yeats, are you around?
[16:58] <yanleb0334> coz_,  ??
[16:58] <et-0nline> this is when i did fsck
[16:58] <drc> intrader: I'd ask the question to the general channel
[16:58] <et-0nline> to continue or to stop it
[16:58] <cipherboy> et-0nline: stop it;
[16:58] <mycosys> even seeing the ruddy progress would be handy
[16:58] <cipherboy> et-0nline: run this: umount /mnt
[16:58] <mkanyicy> mycosys, still far away even
[16:58] <intrader> recovery console gives the option to dpkg - repair broken packages - should I do that?
[16:58] <et-0nline> done
[16:59] <cipherboy> et-0nline: now re-run the fsck: `fsck /dev/sda1`
[16:59] <et-0nline> done
[16:59] <intrader> drc, thanks for your help with chatzilla
[16:59] <mycosys> !english |mkanyicy
[16:59] <coz_> yanleb0334,  which is confusing?
[16:59] <cipherboy> et-0nline: did it complete without any errors?
[16:59] <drc> intrader: NP, hope you problem finally gets resolved, but my knowledge of it is null
[16:59] <et-0nline> yes no errors backing up journal inode block information
[16:59] <mkanyicy> mycosys, i thought i am speaking english
[17:00] <et-0nline> dev sda clean
[17:00] <cipherboy> et-0nline: now run: `mount /dev/sda1 /mnt`
[17:00] <cipherboy> et-0nline: brb
[17:00] <mycosys> not clearly i am afraid mkanyicy - if you arent good with it, dont try to be breif
[17:00] <mkanyicy> !ot | mycosys
[17:00] <yanleb0334> coz_,  thx the download is done.. i will be switching...i will probly be back later to ask about gnome...haha thx
[17:00] <et-0nline> cipherboy: mount point does not exist mnt
[17:01] <cipherboy> et-0nline: did you copy the forward slash too?
[17:01] <coz_> yanleb0334,  ok cool,, I may not be here but there are fat more qualified support people here  to ask :)
[17:01] <mcfadden> The resize grabbers in the bottom-right corner of windows in Ubuntu 10.10 are difficult to hit. Can I make them like previous ubuntu versions?
[17:01] <yanleb0334> coz_, thx
[17:01] <mycosys> so - anybody have any information?
[17:01] <gootella> How can I convert an ascii drawing in text format into a picture file format?
[17:02] <et-0nline> cipherboy yes
[17:02] <mkanyicy> et-0nline, you can create another mount point then but /mnt MUST be there unless something is wrong
[17:02] <cipherboy> et-0nline: try this: `ls /` and post the output.
[17:02] <mkanyicy> mycosys, how can we help you?
[17:03] <et-0nline> bin cdrom etc initrd.img media opt rofs sbin srv tmp var ....
[17:03] <et-0nline> mnt is there
[17:03] <mycosys> some way to prevent karmic moving on booting while it fscks for one, and for another some way to see the progress of the backgrounded fsck
[17:03] <cipherboy> et-0nline: K... Odd.
[17:03] <mycosys> is a fscking big problem lol
[17:04] <cipherboy> et-0nline: try: `mkdir /media/hd`
[17:04] <et-0nline> don
[17:04] <mkanyicy> mycosys, how do you know there is a backgrounded fsck?
[17:04] <et-0nline> done
[17:04] <mycosys> top
[17:04] <mycosys> and the filesystem that isnt mounted is busy
[17:05] <cipherboy> et-0nline: now run: `mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /media/md`
[17:05] <mkanyicy> mycosys, please pastebin all the information you have
[17:05] <mycosys> impossible, i cannot pastebin my memory
[17:05] <bugreporter> hi, can I report a ubuntu natty bug on irc?
[17:05] <et-0nline> mediamd does not exist is this to be media/hd
[17:06] <cipherboy> et-0nline: yes. do you not have all the slashes that I added?
[17:06] <mkanyicy> mycosys, is this problem repeatable after rebooting?
[17:06] <et-0nline> its done now
[17:06] <cipherboy> K.
[17:06] <mycosys> any chance you can answer the questions? they are generic, and relate to bug 521672
[17:06] <mycosys> they are repeatable by anyone on karmic it seems
[17:06] <cipherboy> Now do: `mount -t proc none /media/md` where there is a slash before media and md.
[17:07] <gootella> Anyone know how to *just* change the main menu color in LXDE?
[17:07] <et-0nline> cipherboy there is no md its hd
[17:07] <cipherboy> sorry.
[17:07] <cipherboy> good point.
[17:08] <zxiest[a]> If I installed something to a user, how can I get it moved to root? (and all other users)
[17:08] <cipherboy> et-0nline: `mount -t proc none /media/hd` is what I meant.
[17:08] <et-0nline> done
[17:08] <intrader> I am looking at the Xorg server log. It tells me that 'FATAL: module nvidia not found. How do I fix. I am running in the recovery console.
[17:08] <cipherboy> et-0nline: now run: `mount -t bind /dev /media/hd/dev`
[17:08] <bonjoyee> zxiest[a]: please elaborate..
[17:08] <mkanyicy> mycosys, there you have it
[17:08] <mkanyicy> mycosys, move on to lucid
[17:08] <Guest27390> hi
[17:08] <drc> gootella: I'd ask in #lxde or #lubuntu, you stand a much better chance of an answer
[17:09] <Guest27390> How can i use this xchat ?
[17:09] <cipherboy> et-0nline: and then: `mount-t bind /dev/pts /media/hd/dev/pts`
[17:09] <gootella> drc: Thanks
[17:09] <et-0nline> media hd dev does not exist
[17:09] <mycosys> ur a handy fellow arent you mkanyicy - glad i dont employ you - ever hear of a workaround?
[17:09] <cipherboy> et-0nline: what is the output of `ls /media/hd`?
[17:09] <zxiest[a]> bonjoyee I installed rvm to user x .. now I'm trying sudo rvm , it's not recognizing it. I don't want to reinstall everything to root.. I would much rather move what's installed in my user to root
[17:09] <drc> GoodMourning:You MAY get an answer here, but I'm betting against it.
[17:09] <intrader> Guest27390, ask away
[17:09] <drc> opps, sorry GoodMourning
[17:10] <Guest27390> hi
[17:10] <ruan> drc: gootella is gone
[17:10] <giff> zxiest[a], move manually from home to /opt or add the PATH?
[17:10] <et-0nline> cipherboys lots of files
[17:10] <GoodMourning> drc, I asked a question?
[17:10] <cipherboy> et-0nline: but no dev?
[17:10] <bonjoyee> zxiest[a]: how did you install for user? in its /home?
[17:10] <cipherboy> et-0nline: do you have a separate /home?
[17:10] <mkanyicy> mycosys, id scratch my head on maverick than on karmic, so move on
[17:10] <zxiest[a]> giff doesn't matter.. whichever works
[17:10] <et-0nline> no dev right
[17:11] <zxiest[a]> bonjoyee yes, it's in /home
[17:11] <drc> GoodMourning: Nope, sorry, tab completion...The person I was talking to left (and I have joins/psrts turned off here)
[17:11] <cfc_pawpad> awsome
[17:11] <giff> zxiest[a], both works :P
[17:11] <cfc_pawpad> found the channel i was looking for
[17:11] <bonjoyee> zxiest[a]: you could move it to /usr/local ..that way it will be in all users path..
[17:11] <cfc_pawpad> anyone that can help me?
[17:11] <cipherboy> et-0nline: how is that possible? no wonder it doesn't boot. Do you have a /home folder there? Also, do you have a separate /home?
[17:11] <et-0nline> cipherboy actually if i know this fscking grub will take so long time i will reinstall the hole shit again
[17:11] <zxiest[a]> bonjoyee cool, will try that. thanks :-)
[17:11] <yanleb0334> hey i need help
[17:12] <intrader> I am looking at the Xorg server log. It tells me that 'FATAL: module nvidia not found. How do I fix. I am running in the recovery console.
[17:12] <zxiest[a]> bonjoyee another question... where would be the "bash_profile" for all users?
[17:12] <mkanyicy> !ask | cfc_pawpad
[17:12] <et-0nline> i am in here /home/ubuntu
[17:12] <cfc_pawpad> i have ubuntu problems with password use
[17:12] <bonjoyee> zxiest[a]: /etc/profile
[17:12] <cipherboy> et-0nline: more or less, you need to chroot into your old install, run update-grub and it should be fixed.
[17:12] <yanleb0334> hey i need help
[17:12] <et-0nline> i am in here /home/ubuntu
[17:12] <zxiest[a]> bonjoyee cool :-)!
[17:13] <yanleb0334> can i get itunes on gnome
[17:13] <mkanyicy> cfc_pawpad, the solution is to type the right one, :)
[17:13] <et-0nline> cipherboy what to do now
[17:13] <xormor_> how do I use gparted to take space from ntfs and give it to ubuntu?
[17:13] <cfc_pawpad> thats the thing
[17:13] <cfc_pawpad> i do
[17:13] <yanleb0334> can i get itunes on gnome
[17:13] <cfc_pawpad> it wont work in ubuntu
[17:13] <IdleOne> yanleb0334: I believe you can run the windows version in Wine
[17:13] <cfc_pawpad> but works in terminal
[17:13] <ruan> xormor_: resize
[17:13] <yanleb0334> IdleOne, how to i get wine
[17:13] <mkanyicy> xormor, resize
[17:13] <giff> yanleb0334, try vbox, i doubt wine works with the latest version
[17:13] <IdleOne> yanleb0334: sudo apt-get install wine
[17:14] <xormor_> ruan, mkanyicy: how do I resize?
[17:14] <cipherboy> et-0nline: google how to set up a chroot on linux, chroot into your install, make sure you are root, and then run `update-grub2`
[17:14] <ruan> xormor_: right click, resize
[17:14] <giff> yanleb0334, well worth a try: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347
[17:14] <imetallica> lol http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Linux-2.4-oops-sparc.jpg
[17:14] <mkanyicy> xormor_, your ntfs must be unmounted
[17:14] <cipherboy> et-0nline: then reboot into the ubuntu, run `sudo update-grub2`, reboot and everything might be fixed.
[17:15] <cipherboy> et-0nline: sorry, I have to go.
[17:15] <imetallica> err sorry wrong chan :)
[17:15] <xormor_> mkanyicy: it says it must be this size.
[17:15] <mkanyicy> xormor_, which size?
[17:15] <mkanyicy> xormor_, then it might be already full
[17:16] <xormor_> mkanyicy: 13202 MiB
[17:16] <ruan> does linux come with APT? the kernel itself
[17:16] <mkanyicy> xormor_, first you need to back up your files before going ahead
[17:16] <xormor_> mkanyicy: its size according to windows xp is 12.8GB, and free space according to it is 4.41GB.
[17:16] <GoodMourning> Oh okay, drc
[17:16] <xormor_> mkanyicy: ok
[17:17] <intrader> I am looking at the Xorg server log. It tells me that 'FATAL: module nvidia not found. How do I fix. I am running in the recovery console.
[17:17] <giff> ruan, no, package management really doesn't belong into the kernel
[17:17] <IdleOne> intrader: install nvidia-current , that should fix it
[17:17] <mkanyicy> then you can get about 4GB from 'squeezing' that ntfs partition, xormor_
[17:17] <ruan> giff: ok
[17:18] <intrader> IdleOne, I am in the recovery console - how do I install the nvidia-current
[17:18] <cfc_pawpad> i think its funny when ubuntu ask for pass it refuses to work but when i use the terminal it works just fine
[17:18] <IdleOne> intrader: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:18] <cainus> hey all... any pitivi users in here?  I managed to create a video with pitivi, but I can only see the video output if I run it on ubuntu... neither windows nor youtube understand the format... can anyone throw me a clue?
[17:19] <mkanyicy> cfc_pawpad, under what situation are you being asked for a password?
[17:19] <intrader> IdleOne, I will log in for that? in text terminal?
[17:19] <cfc_pawpad> yes
[17:19] <IdleOne> intrader: yes
[17:19] <xormor_> mkanyicy: it refuses to change the settings in sudo gparted, and my ubuntu install cd doesn't want to boot properly.
[17:20] <Manii> Hey, I have just one question, has e17 been released yet?
[17:20] <mkanyicy> xormor_, so you are not on the live cd?
[17:21] <mkanyicy> xormor_, i recommend you get a working livecd and do resizing while you are on a livecd
[17:21] <xormor_> mkanyicy: ok
[17:22] <mkanyicy> xormor_, another things you have the 4GB available to your ntfs drive, dont you need to have it for your windows system?
[17:22] <xormor_> mkanyicy: yes, if I want to do something with the windows system, like playing games.
[17:22] <xormor_> mkanyicy: I am thinking about it, maybe I should save the space for Windows games.
[17:23] <intrader> IdleOne, normal until I get 'Need to get 26.3MB of archives, and then Could not resolve 'archive.ubuntu.ocm'\nFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/....
[17:24] <IdleOne> intrader: the machine is connected to the network right?
[17:24] <don_equis> I can't mount an iso. I guess it can be corrupted or be a rare kind of iso. k3b doesn't recognize it as an iso. Neither "sudo mount -o loop -t auto b.iso mnt/" nor "sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 b.iso mnt/" work (the first one says "mount: you must specify the filesystem type" and the other one "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - t
[17:24] <Tactix> intrader, have your modified your sources.list?
[17:24] <ruan> don_equis: what is this iso?
[17:24] <don_equis> A wii game.
[17:24] <ruan> ah
[17:25] <IdleOne> we don't help with copyright infringement
[17:25] <mkanyicy> don_equis, can you type: 'file b.iso' ?
[17:25] <don_equis> Oh, I'm sorry.
[17:25] <don_equis> b.iso: data
[17:25] <intrader> IdleOne, it booted to text terminal - I don't see the netgear card flashing. So how do I connect from the text terminal?
[17:26] <Tactix> intrader, sudo init3 and then startx
[17:27] <mkanyicy> don_equis, it does not appear as an iso image, even mount does not recognise it
[17:27] <intrader> Tactix, IdleONe, and then I could reload the driver
[17:27] <don_equis> That is my problem.
[17:28] <IdleOne> should be able to yes, intrader
[17:28] <NielsMkn> Hey guys
[17:28] <mkanyicy> don_equis, are you sure this is an ISO fole?
[17:28] <mkanyicy> file
[17:28] <ag5> I am having problems with installing ubuntu 10.10 cause I have a 9500 gt vga card. Also I am facing the same problem while installing 10.04 LTS. Does anyone knows if the new release will have this bug with 9500 gt cards fixed?
[17:28] <NielsMkn> How do I run an application from the terminal?
[17:28] <ruan> NielsMkn: depends on the application
[17:28] <IdleOne> Nielsen: which application?
[17:28] <Tactix> intrader, you installed nvidia-current from repo, so after init 3 and startx you should be using the nvidia driver 196 something
[17:28] <don_equis> It is supposed to be a cd image file. If it is exactly an iso i can't know.
[17:28] <edbian> NielsMkn, if you want to run firefox you type this: firefox    and press enter
[17:28] <NielsMkn> When I type the name of the program followed by & it closes the terminal
[17:28] <yanleb0334> IdleOne, hey... ive downloaded wine now how do i work itunes with it
[17:28] <edbian> NielsMkn, ummm, it shouldn't...
[17:29] <whiterabbit> NielsMkn, and if it's not executable you have to chmod u+x somefile
[17:29] <NielsMkn> well I'm trying to run a 32-bit game on 64-bit Ubuntu 10.10
[17:29] <whiterabbit> and after that you launch by ./somefile.
[17:29] <mkanyicy> don_equis, do you know how was it created, by what application?
[17:29] <IdleOne> yanleb0334: now double click on the .exe file and it should start up Wine, follow instructions given.
[17:29] <edbian> NielsMkn, Does running firefox work?
[17:29] <don_equis> Do you know any app that tries to find out if it is an cd image file or not? I have no idea, i'm sorry
[17:29] <mkanyicy> don_equis, if its an iso, then its corrupted
[17:30] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, I am unable to find commad init3
[17:30] <yanleb0334> IdleOne, what exe file
[17:30] <ruan> don_equis: can you extract the iso using 7z?
[17:30] <giff> yanleb0334, try this http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=2091
[17:30] <don_equis> Nope.
[17:30] <NielsMkn> yeah edbian
[17:30] <Tactix> intrader, command is init 3
[17:30] <Tactix> with a space
[17:30] <IdleOne> yanleb0334: you have the install file for itunes?
[17:30] <ruan> don_equis: what error does it give?
[17:30] <mkanyicy> ruan, 7z?
[17:30] <jOZe> hola
[17:30] <ruan> mkanyicy: 7zip
[17:30] <ruan> !info 7z
[17:30] <don_equis> Can not open file as archive
[17:30] <ruan> !info 7zip
[17:30] <ruan> gah
[17:30] <juk> !info p7zip
[17:31] <juk> !info p7zip-full
[17:31] <yanleb0334> IdleOne, not yet...after i download it i try and open it and it will go with wine right?
[17:31] <mkanyicy> ruan, so iso is like a zip?
[17:31] <IdleOne> yanleb0334: it should yes
[17:31] <PhoenixSTF> For samba is nmdb needed to be up?
[17:31] <ruan> mkanyicy: 7z supports iso files
[17:31] <Tactix> why is this info not from the ! trigger not sent in notice gdmmit
[17:31] <mkanyicy> ruan, ok thanks
[17:31] <ruan> hold on, let me check with one of my own isos
[17:31] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, can't see anything different, the netgear card is not flashing.
[17:31] <yanleb0334> IdleOne, ok i will be back later if there is another problem thx
[17:32] <ruan> yep, i extracted one of my own isos successfully with 7z
[17:32] <Tactix> intrader, netgear?? you were talking about installing nvidia drivers
[17:32] <Tactix> netgear is a lan/wifi adapter not?
[17:32] <NielsMkn> :(
[17:32] <IdleOne> Tactix: he hasn't install the nvidia-current package yet, he needs to get online before.
[17:32] <IdleOne> installed*
[17:32] <juk> !mount | ruan
[17:33] <Tactix> IdleOne, intrader, my bad, i was under the impressions you were installing nvidia drivers
[17:33] <ruan> juk: im just indicating that 7z supports iso files
[17:33] <IdleOne> Tactix: well that was the original plan but then he got a error about not reaching the repo
[17:33] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, you are correct - I don't have network in this text terminal so you said to run `init 3`. No  change in the nvidia install - same 'Could not resolve 'archive.ubuntu.som'
[17:33] <jumoit> i can't still get sound in ubuntu 10.04 after following some guides out there. so, any ideas?
[17:34] <jumoit> !sound | jumoit
[17:34] <Tactix> IdleOne, intrader, but is the error only for one repo? otherwise it could be there is a fault in his sources.list
[17:34] <juk> ruan: it does, mount is more natural way of doing it :)
[17:35] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, repo?
[17:35] <jumoit> hey, YOU GUYS, could you please give me a hand??
[17:35] <giff> don_equis, wii isos have their own proprietary filesystem, you can copy them with dd, inspect them with a hexeditor but not mount them on Linux (afaik), there are tools that may help you accomplish what you are trying to do such as http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Ftpii
[17:35] <ag5> To install NVIDIA driver, of course, you must disable the Kernel Nouveau. Ok, let’s start it from beginning.
[17:35] <ag5>  
[17:35] <ag5> 1. Go to NVIDIA website and download the compatible driver for your graphic card series.
[17:35] <ag5> 2. Reboot your Ubuntu.
[17:35] <ag5> 3. Choose the ‘Recovery Mode’ on GRUB.
[17:35] <FloodBot3> ag5: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:35] <Tactix> intrader, repository, collection of software for your system
[17:35] <ag5> 4. Go to the bottom of menu list, choose ‘root console’.
[17:35] <ag5> 5. Disable the Kernel Nouveau.
[17:35] <IdleOne> intrader: repo is short for repository. What happens when you run sudo apt-get update ?
[17:35] <jumoit> ????
[17:35] <ruan> ag5: nvidia drivers are also in repos
[17:36] <don_equis> giff: Thank you, i'll check it.
[17:36] <Jean-Thomas> sorry, can anyone know how to fix my problem, when i reboot to finish the installation of ubuntu, say coulnd open ubuntu/instal/.iso
[17:36] <IdleOne> !ask | jumoit
[17:36] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, without network a lot of errors
[17:36] <IdleOne> intrader: ok so the first thing you need to do is get network connection working
[17:36] <Tactix> intrader, and with network only one error?
[17:36] <IdleOne> intrader: I do not know how to do that in terminal. maybe Tactix does
[17:37] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, I don't, Tactix said to run 'init 3' - it does nothing
[17:37] <Tactix> intrader, IdleOne, command for networking : sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
[17:38] <Tactix> intrader, the init 3 command is for when u are installing your nvidia drivers
[17:38] <jumoit> IdleOne: i'm sorry. actually, i have followed some guides like  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound. but, what a pity, i can't get sound in ubuntu 10.04. so, any ideas?
[17:39] <ag5> just hope ubuntu new realease will have this nvidia installation issue fixed eith the new release
[17:39] <milen8204> How to situate the gnome-terminal in exactly place at my Desktop?
[17:39] <IdleOne> jumoit: try running alsamixer from terminal and make sure nothing is muted.
[17:39] <IdleOne> later folks.
[17:39] <milen8204> on start I mean
[17:40] <jumoit> IdleOne: yep, as you said. i have been done. but, never got sound. :(
[17:40] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, it says 'Rather than invoking init scripts thorugh /etc. ... n Since the script you are attempting to invoke ... etc
[17:40] <ruan> milen8204: what do you mean?
[17:41] <kella> Hey, I've get a bit of strange problem, is there any way to disable a specific keyboard in ubuntu?
[17:41] <Tactix> intrader: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-restart-start-stop-networking-service-howto/
[17:41] <kella> I'm using 11.04 alpha if that matters
[17:41] <ZenT510> !natty | kella
[17:41] <pit> hell
[17:42] <kella> OK, let's pretend I'm using 10.10 then
[17:42] <pit> hello
[17:42] <vanillaslice> hello, i have just bought a VPN..what do i need to do to setup my new domain to my new VPN?
[17:42] <pit> hi, whant
[17:42] <vanillaslice> VPS*
[17:43] <smw> vanillaslice, that is between you and your dns provider
[17:43] <kella> The keyboard is connected via usb, it's actually an IR receiver built in to the monitor but it looks like a keyboard in windows so I assume Ubuntu is seeing the same thing
[17:44] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, no wireless
[17:44] <pit> hall zusammen ich wollte vcds apspielen aber wie unter ubuntunicht möglich
[17:44] <smw> vanillaslice, dns points to an ip address. You may also need to talk to your vps provider about reverse dns. However, none of this has to do with linux.
[17:44] <smw> !german | pit
[17:44] <DJones> kella: You need to join #ubuntu+1 for support queries on natty
[17:44] <Karmic_Koala> can anyone help me to install FreePBX on Ubuntu 9.10 ??? pvt please
[17:44] <kella> This has nothing to do with the version of ubuntu
[17:44] <pit> ok thx
[17:45] <cg2916> when i boot ubuntu, i get stuck on the grub command line, can anybody help?
[17:45] <ruan> !9.10
[17:45] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, when I connect the ethernet, it tells me 'Ignoring unknow interface etho0=etho. twice and the Ok
[17:45] <drc> kella: ALL natty questions go to #ubuntu+1
[17:45] <ruan> hmm, why dont they say the EOL
[17:45] <liminal_> hi , i need to modify my kernal, but the following comand line seems to be missing a repository
[17:45] <liminal_> sudo apt-add-repository ppa: kernel-ppa/ppa sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-backport-natty linux-headers-generic-lts-backport-natty
[17:45] <ZULO> hi ppl
[17:45] <smw> ruan, they say eol if it is eol
[17:45] <ruan> ok
[17:45] <liminal_> Error: need a repository as argument
[17:46] <ZULO> who know things about route rules?
[17:46] <imetallica> #ubuntu-ptbr
[17:46] <ruan> liminal_: try in #ubuntu+1
[17:46] <drc> imetallica: try  /j #ubuntu-ptbr
[17:46] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, I have net work from ethernet - update gets all sources. What next to get the nvidia?
[17:46] <Tactix> intrader, no clue mate, i would say the system doesnt recognize your network card or something
[17:47] <imetallica> actually it's ubuntu-br :D
[17:47] <imetallica> and I forgot to add /j :P
[17:47] <IdleOne> intrader: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:47] <Tactix> intrader, you have to blacklist the nouveay driver first
[17:47] <offt> is UTC the same as GMT?
[17:47] <pit> hello, i will play vcds on ubuntu. but it is not work?
[17:47] <Tactix> err nouveau driver
[17:47] <drc> offt: yes
[17:48] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, that is going Ok, not finished yet, then what?
[17:48] <offt> drc: ok :) so when gmt time changes utc will too?
[17:48] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[17:48] <offt> drc: just wondering as my ubuntu is using utc.. which is the same time as gmt
[17:48] <cg2916> when i boot ubuntu, i get stuck on the grub command line, can anybody help?
[17:48] <LjL> offt: what do you mean "gmt time changes"?
[17:48] <drc> offt: they are different names for the same TZ...UTC is more politically correct
[17:48] <ZULO> who know things about route rules?
[17:48] <IdleOne> intrader: you will been to reboot when it is done installing and with a little luck and a lot of hope it will work
[17:49] <smw> offt, utc and gmt are the same. Except... I believe they have different opinions on where to put a leap second...
[17:49] <offt> LjL: like when gmt +1.. will ubuntu automatically use utc + 1?
[17:49] <IdleOne> s/been/need/
[17:49] <offt> or whatnot...
[17:49] <ZULO> how i can create a route rule??
[17:49] <LjL> offt: no idea, but GMT doesn't change. the UK simply switches to BST (British Summer Time) instead. GMT is still the same.
[17:49] <smw> ZULO, why do you want to create a route rule?
[17:49] <Tactix> intrader, after, sudo apt-get install nvidia-config
[17:58] <leg3nd> intrader, defenitley a xorg problem, look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf    Often nvidia drivers will create backup configurations when you install the video driver.
[17:58] <leg3nd> intrader, whats your output of 'lsmod | grep nvidia'
[17:58] <A_J> ok people a question, in deluge what is Daemon and why is it not starting ?
[17:58] <cg2916> I am running Natty Alpha 3. I used Update Manager to install something (not sure what it was), then I restarted, but instead of listing all the kernels, it gave me a command line. I don't know what happened and how to use it. Help!
[17:58] <taqa> edbian what do i need to do after i install ubuntu, i use gpart and install another os how to configure ubuntu grub or another bootloader
[17:58] <ZenT510> !natty | cg2916
[17:58] <milen8204> ruan, I mean: I don't want my gnome-terminal to start on upper-left angle on my screen at start.
[17:58] <smw> ZULO, so, you have a router -> internal server -> external server -> internet?
[17:58] <edbian> taqa, This guide explains all: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[17:58] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, log3nd, the lsmod gives nothing
[17:58] <ruan> milen8204: you can drag the icon to wherever you want it
[17:58] <fermulator> Anyone have any idea how "df" can show a filesystem (root) 100% used, while "du" shows only 50% used?  http://pastebin.com/e4amiVcU
[17:58] <nick2> not to sure
[17:58] <muay-guy> Hey guys, just realized I have only 680 mb available in my / and 192 GiB in /host... how come?
[17:58] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, the lsmod gives nothing
[17:58] <Tactix> intrader, look @ private convo (query), if posted your sollution there
[17:58] <leg3nd> intrader, are you installing the driver from a .run file (from the nvidia website) or from the "hardware manager"?
[17:59] <muay-guy> is it possible to reloccate some of that space?
[17:59] <Tactix> leg3nd, he is installing from repo's
[17:59] <Tactix> nvidia-current
[17:59] <A_J> where can i find config/deluge ?
[17:59] <ZULO> smw, i have:  router with internet(192.168.1.1) -> wlan0 laptop -> eth0 laptop -> router without internet (192.168.2.1) -> desktop
[17:59] <milen8204> ruan, when I start my gnome-terminal it appears in my upper-left angle, I want to appears to different spot :D
[17:59] <monkeyD> hi guys, I am trying to install ubuntu on the laptop of my brother, but I have problems, the installation doesnt go further I only can close the installation, but ubuntu live works
[17:59] <yanleb0334> IdleOne, still does it
[17:59] <leg3nd> intrader, iv never had a problem out of the repos, but that doesnt say much really. If it doesnt 'just work' from repos (after a reboot) then i would try from the nvidia drivers page.
[18:00] <ruan> milen8204: oh
[18:00] <cfc_pawpad> oki anyone super good with ubuntu stuff please IM me
[18:00] <ZULO> smw, i can make ping to 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.2.1 but cant use internet
[18:00] <ag5> with which command can someone download the nvidia drivers from the recovery console ?
[18:00] <caimlas__> hi, I've got an ubuntu 10.04 machine that, upon boot, tries to start both lxdm and gdm. It seems they have a 'race' to be the first one to start, because I get a different one on different boots. I would like to disable one or the other; however, /etc/rc2.d does not appear to have initscripts for either of them. I'm curious how I can disable them?
[18:00] <ruan> ag5: sudo apt-get install nvidia-common
[18:00] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, the pervious kernel (from grub) loads just fine
[18:00] <abbiya> hello all
[18:00] <ag5> thanx
[18:00] <ZULO> smw, i think that is for routing rules
[18:00] <leg3nd> ZULO,  can you resolv DNS? like say when you ping www.google.com?
[18:00] <tbruff13> can someone help me with adacity in ubuntu
[18:01] <A_J> can som1 help me find config/deluge ?
[18:01] <leg3nd> ZULO, also whats the output of 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'
[18:01] <ZULO> no leg3nd
[18:01] <ZenT510> cfc_pawpad: it's best to tell your problem to the channel
[18:01] <Tactix> caimlas__ you can do a "locate default-diplay-manager" see what is started in that file
[18:01] <abbiya> 11.04...........when it comes ?
[18:01] <ruan> !natty
[18:01] <ZULO> leg3nd,  in resolv.conf i have "nameserver 80.58.61.250"
[18:01] <ZULO> need add my own ip ?
[18:01] <A_J> ruan can u help me find config/deluge
[18:01] <cfc_pawpad> well i cant use my password in the software unless i open the terminal
[18:01] <leg3nd> intrader, give this a shot. 'sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-current && sudo apt-get -y install nvidia-current'
[18:02] <milen8204> ruan, I tried whit --geometry but it works only in a terminal, any idea?
[18:02] <caimlas__> Tactix, I don't have that/it returns nothing.
[18:02] <dejan_> how can I make apache owner of one folder in www folder?
[18:02] <leg3nd> ZULO, give this a shot 'echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" > /etc/resolv.conf'
[18:02] <tbruff13> I cant import .flv files and i don't know why
[18:02] <ruan> milen8204: im not sure, it starts at bottom right for me
[18:02] <drc> tbruff13: try #audacity
[18:02] <dejan_> so it can write files there
[18:02] <leg3nd> ZULO, let me know if you can resolve DNS after that
[18:02] <smw> ZULO, this may help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[18:02] <tbruff13> k
[18:02] <abbiya> hey all
[18:02] <A_J> som1 please tell me where is .config/delege
[18:02] <ruan> tbruff13: .flv files are videos
[18:03] <r0b0> xchat doesn't seem to work for me on windows
[18:03] <caimlas__> Tactix, where/what might I look for?
[18:03] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, what is &&
[18:03] <milen8204> ruan, I see, ok thanks
[18:03] <monkeyD> I am trying to install ubuntu on the laptop of my brother, but I have problems, the installation doesnt go further I only can close the installation, but ubuntu live works
[18:03] <Tactix> caimlas__ the file is in /etc/X11
[18:03] <leg3nd> intrader, it just chains commands together, one after another
[18:03] <monkeyD> can anyone help me please ?
[18:03] <ZULO> leg3nd, thanks i go try that
[18:03] <ZULO> smw, thanks i see that now
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> leg3nd: that will need a root console to work
[18:03] <A_J> leg3nd can u help me find .config/deluge
[18:03] <ruan> monkeyD: where doesnt it go further?
[18:03] <abbiya> in my laptop my wifi is connected but i am not able to surf..firefox and opera are give server not found messages
[18:03] <caimlas__> Tactix, hmm I don't have that.
[18:03] <tbruff13> i dont see any adacity channel
[18:03] <Tactix> intrader, && glues commands together like this sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:03] <leg3nd> ActionParsnip, your right i run backtrack and forget sometimes lol, thanks.
[18:04] <yanleb0334> IdleOne, can you access my computer through remote desktop??
[18:04] <caimlas__> Tactix, find /etc -name *display* returns nothing.
[18:04] <drc> monkeyD: Doesn't "go further" that what?
[18:04] <smiley7> hey guys,im geting an error from Update manager
[18:04] <smw> ZULO, note that it warns you should not use it because it is old lol
[18:04] <leg3nd> A_J, Im not sure what you mean
[18:04] <Galaxor> When I dig diaspora.pirateship.org from home, it times out without hitting any servers.  When I dig galaxor.pirateship.org from home, it gets the right answer.  When I dig diaspora.pirateship.org from anywhere else, it gets the right answer.  When I dig nonexisting domains from home, it returns my isp's stupid "site finder".  What is up with this?  Why can't I get diaspora.pirateship.org's address?
[18:04] <Tactix> caimlas__ you dont have the X11 folder?
[18:04] <intrader> Tactix, I had forgotten - thanks
[18:04] <Galaxor> ns1.pirateship.org is running djbdns.
[18:04] <monkeyD> ruan: after the windows where you can select foreign pakages and accept the download updates
[18:04] <ZULO> smw, ok :>
[18:04] <A_J> leg3nd check here
[18:04] <A_J> http://forum.deluge-torrent.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=26455
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> A_j: open nautilus and press CTRL+H and you will see the .co
[18:04] <Galaxor> Is there some way to see debugging output, to know if, like, some recursive lookup is failing?
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> .config folder
[18:05] <caimlas__> Tactix, yes, I do. I don't have a 'default-display-manager' file in there, however. (and I'm having a difficult time figuring out how X/the dms start, if not by init)
[18:05] <LarsTorben> hi
[18:05] <dejan_> how can I make apache owner of one directory so it can write files there?
[18:05] <tbruff13> i dont see any aduacity channel
[18:05] <Tactix> make it then :)
[18:05] <tbruff13> can someone help me please
[18:05] <LarsTorben> shell ubuntu 10.04 or ubuntu 10.10 ?
[18:05] <tbruff13> oh
[18:05] <Tactix> caimlas__, make it then :)
[18:05] <smiley7> it says not all updates can be installed,it says something about a partial update
[18:05] <LarsTorben>  
[18:05] <leg3nd> A_J, I dont have too much expierence with that, ActionParsnip may know more. Although the first thing i see is 'upgraded to karmic' which isnt a good start.
[18:05] <A_J> whats nutilius ActionParsnip ?
[18:05] <ruan> !nautilus
[18:05] <bmfy> tbruff13: whats your issue?
[18:05] <abbiya> in my laptop my wifi is connected but i am not able to surf..firefox and opera are give server not found messages
[18:05] <LarsTorben> !nautilus
[18:05] <drc> tbruff13: It's #audacity , spell it right for once
[18:05] <ruan> !info nautilus
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> dejan_: sure, use chown to change ownership. Be careful with it
[18:06] <tbruff13> drc, sorry
[18:06] <Tactix> caimlas__, sudo echo /usr/bin/gdm >>default-display-manager
[18:06] <LarsTorben> ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10?
[18:06] <nit-wit> smiley7, look in synaptic for any missing dependencies
[18:06] <Tactix> caimlas__, sudo echo /usr/bin/gdm >> default-display-manager
[18:06] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, while 'Processing triggers for python-support.... 'Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied - then ask are you root?
[18:06] <monkeyD> ruan: any ideas ?
[18:06] <tbruff13> my issue is audacity wont let me import flv it says there is something wrong with ffmpeg, but there is not
[18:06] <yanleb0334> hey can anyone help me with itunes and wine
[18:06] <caimlas__> Tactix, I did find /etc/init/gdm.conf and lxdm.conf - if I were to remove one of these, should it work?
[18:07] <Tactix> intrader, run the command as sudo
[18:07] <dejan_> ActionParsnip: why careful? I want to make apache owner of a directory is that bad?
[18:07] <smiley7> it has always worked before.....
[18:07] <leg3nd> intrader, you can only use one instance of DPKG at a time, close synaptic.
[18:07] <dejan_> so visitors can upload files there
[18:07] <Sw33NY_> hey, do you know an command for copy with pourcentag and speed ?
[18:07] <Sw33NY_> hey, do you know an command for copy with % and speed ?
[18:07] <yanleb0334> hey can anyone help me with itunes and wine
[18:07] <ruan> monkeyD: what does it do if you click next?
[18:07] <Tactix> caimlas__, no those are config file for the respective managers, it will not prevent them from starting
[18:07] <ZULO> leg3nd, with nameserver 8.8.8.8 not resolv
[18:07] <ZenT510> yanleb0334: ask in #winehq
[18:07] <leg3nd> ZULO, you are using DHCP right?
[18:07] <LarsTorben> dont pm me ubottu
[18:07] <smiley7> missing for What ?
[18:08] <A_J> ActionParsnip i have to install
[18:08] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, so both commands have to have sudo - that completes
[18:08] <A_J> nautilus ?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> A_j: when you use the places menu, nautilus is the file browser
[18:08] <giff> yanleb0334, I linked you a tutorial somewhere above, did you follow it? but I second ZenT510
[18:08] <LarsTorben> A_J:
[18:08] <LarsTorben> !info nautilus
[18:08] <ZULO> leg3nd, with wlan0 interface rigth, with eth0 no
[18:08] <monkeyD> ruan: nothing, just the waiting curso is there and I waited more then 20 minutes and nothing happend, I only can close
[18:08] <Tactix> intrader yes
[18:08] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, now reboot?
[18:08] <A_J> ty LarsTorben
[18:08] <LarsTorben> np
[18:08] <Tactix> intrader yes
[18:08] <leg3nd> intrader, yea reboot and hopefully your nvidia module will load, if not you may need to boot from a live CD if you have no graphics driver.
[18:09] <ruan> monkeyD: is that all which is on the screen?
[18:09] <A_J> LarsTorben Alt + H not gettin me to config folder
[18:09] <leg3nd> ZULO, which are you trying to connect though? ethernet?
[18:09] <tbruff13> hello
[18:09] <sprash> Hi how can i reduce the spacing between the icons in the indicator area?
[18:09] <A_J> .config*
[18:09] <smiley7> how do i do that ?
[18:09] <smiley7> how do i find whats missing ?
[18:09] <monkeyD> ruan: yes
[18:10] <cipherboy> A_J: you trying to get to show hidden folders?
[18:10] <Cheetah1985> hi
[18:10] <ruan> monkeyD: does it work if both are unchecked?
[18:10] <cipherboy> A_J: if so, it is CTRL+H.
[18:10] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, no GUI back to text terminal
[18:10] <A_J> kk cipherboy got it
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> A_j: it won't. It only shows hidden files and folders
[18:10] <dejan_> with chown can I change owner of directory or just file?
[18:10] <Tactix> intrader, startx
[18:10] <leg3nd> intrader, no biggie, are you on a live CD now?
[18:10] <ZULO> leg3nd, i want have access to 2 networks 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.2.1, i have access but no internet i want have internet too. internet come in wlan0 interface
[18:10] <monkeyD> I tried all options, with both unchecked, unchecked, with wlan, without wlan
[18:10] <Sw33NY_> hey, do you know an command for copy with % and speed ?
[18:11] <monkeyD> nothing worked  ruan
[18:11] <xdccFriend_[1740> ciao
[18:11] <A_J> ActionParsnip check here please
[18:11] <A_J> http://forum.deluge-torrent.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=26455
[18:11] <ruan> monkeyD: hmm im not sure then
[18:11] <xdccFriend_[1740> !list
[18:11] <A_J> there is no label file
[18:11] <leg3nd> ZULO, 'sudo dhclient wlan0' and try
[18:12] <smiley7> anybody ?
[18:12] <kella> OK, In ubuntu 10.10 is there any way to identify the keyboard that input is coming from?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> dejan_: both. You can also add -R to the command for recursive chown of a folder and all subfolders and files
[18:12] <leg3nd> ZULO, if your trying to acctually bridge your connection from wireless to the ethernet interface, thats going to get a bit more complicated with IP tables.
[18:12] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, no I dont' have the live CD
[18:12] <yanleb0334_> hey can anyone help me with itunes on wine
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> dejan_: if you malforn a chown com
[18:13] <yanleb0334_> hey can anyone help me with itunes on wine
[18:13] <A_J> ActionParsnip i'm unable to start Deamon
[18:13] <drc> yanleb0334_: : Try #winehq
[18:13] <leg3nd> intrader, okay, so your in a text terminal right now with no x server running?
[18:13] <dejan_> ActionParsnip: thanks alot!
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> dejan_: you may break your OS, especially if recursive is used
[18:13] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, correct
[18:13] <monkeyD> ruan: any ideas ?
[18:14] <leg3nd> does the 'lsmod | grep nvidia' output anything now?
[18:14] <leg3nd> intrader, does the 'lsmod | grep nvidia' output anything now?
[18:14] <ZULO> leg3nd, im drawing a little scheme to clear my problem w8 :D
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> A_j: how did you install it?
[18:14] <A_J> Via Software Manager
[18:14] <dejan_> ActionParsnip: why I will change owner of just only few files that are in www folder
[18:14] <dejan_> to apache
[18:15] <leg3nd> dejan_, its www-data  not apache
[18:15] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, nothing for lsmod |grep nvidia
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> dejan_: human error exists. I'm simply advising caution :-)
[18:15] <leg3nd> intrader, can you 'modprobe nvidia' ?
[18:16] <leg3nd> intrader, or does that output 'not found'?
[18:16] <yanleb0334_> drc, not many people there to answer
[18:16] <giff> smiley7, use apt-get dist-upgrade in terminal and post output if it doesn't work
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> A_j: does it no just run when you use the application menu?
[18:17] <JohnMF> Hi. How do I make file1 point to file2?
[18:17] <drc> yanleb0334_: so be patient
[18:17] <JohnMF> both files already exitst
[18:17] <smiley7> i am a newbe to linux...
[18:17] <leg3nd> JohnMF, with a symlink  'man ln'
[18:17] <JohnMF> leg3nd: can they be removed? :)
[18:17] <yanleb0334_> does anyone know a way other than wine to use itunes
[18:17] <A_J> ActionParsnip the program launches but gives an error " Unable to Start Daemon"
[18:17] <JohnMF> !itunes
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> leg3nd: the nvidia guy you are helping may need to ru
[18:17] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, 'Module nvidia not found
[18:17] <leg3nd> ActionParsnip, ru?
[18:17] <drc> yanleb0334_: or fire up you browser and go to www.winehq.org and look there
[18:18] <Danielcg25> iNeed to sync/restore my iPod. Only iTunes can do that
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> leg3nd: 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' ;-)
[18:18] <giff> !tell smiley7 about who
[18:18] <leg3nd> ActionParsnip, even if the module isnt in the kernel?
[18:18] <MacByte> is ruan here?
[18:18] <sir_tyrion> Where there is a directory you normally would have full rights on, but you don't want to accidentally screw it up, so you can temp go into RO mode. This way you can avoid misclicks without ahving to remount the directory
[18:18] <JohnMF> leg3nd: should I use -s or not? and can these be removed?
[18:18] <sir_tyrion> Is there a way to put nautilus in RO mode?
[18:19] <leg3nd> ActionParsnip, and i though that was done automatically via repos
[18:19] <sir_tyrion> Where there is a directory you normally would have full rights on, but you don't want to accidentally screw it up, so you can temp go into RO mode. This way you can avoid misclicks without having to remount the directory
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> A_j: not sure then dude. Is there a bug logged for it?
[18:19] <smiley7> oh well...i guess its back to linux Mint
[18:19] <MacByte> I get this message after I install sun java 6 though sudo
[18:19] <giff> smiley7, open terminal and type: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:19] <MacByte> Package sun-java6-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[18:19] <MacByte> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[18:19] <MacByte> is only available from another source
[18:19] <A_J> i dont think so ActionParsnipq
[18:19] <FloodBot3> MacByte: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:19] <MacByte> oh sorry
[18:19] <leg3nd> JohnMF, depends what your doing but yes -s is normal, and delete them i think just rm?
[18:19] <smiley7> ok
[18:20] <JohnMF> leg3nd: file 1 is existing already... do i have to delete that?
[18:20] <JohnMF> does ln create a fake file?
[18:20] <christopher_> I downloaded sysinfo, I click on "system" and the thing just closes without so much a s a thank you
[18:20] <christopher_> anyone else have this issue?
[18:20] <leg3nd> JohnMF, no it just creates a link which will redirect to the file you tell it to
[18:20] <A_J> Christoffer works fine for me
[18:20] <JohnMF> leg3nd: basically.. I want to make it so anything that goes to /sites-available/default.. gets sent to /sites-available/moo
[18:20] <christopher_> huh weird
[18:20] <christopher_> oh well lol
[18:21] <JohnMF> leg3nd: both "default" and "moo" are already created
[18:21] <leg3nd> JohnMF, your trying to setup multiple apache websites?
[18:21] <JohnMF> leg3nd: its a temp thing.. and I know its not correct ;) but yeah
[18:21] <JohnMF> just need a quick fix
[18:21] <christopher_> thats so werid
[18:21] <leg3nd> JohnMF, Oh okay, normally i just use a2dissite and a2ensite for that stuff, i have a handy command laying around ill see if i can find it.
[18:21] <rajvi> how to uninstall enemy territory just install
[18:21] <A_J> ActionParsnip what shd i do
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> rajvi:  if it installed to a directory in your users home.. delete that directory,.
[18:22] <MacByte> how hard is it to install java on ubuntu?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> leg3nd: if the monitor isn't reporting EDID then the driver will fail to load. EDID will show refresh rates available for the driver to use. The xorg.conf file generated by nvidia-xconfig will tell the OS due to cheap/lacking hardware
[18:22] <leg3nd> JohnMF,   'ls /etc/apache2/sites-available/ | xargs a2dissite && a2ensite moo'  this would disable all websites and enable moo
[18:22] <ZenT510> !java | MacByte
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> MacByte:  trivial - its in the variouys repositories.
[18:22] <rajvi> Thanks Willy
[18:22] <JohnMF> I don't want to do that
[18:22] <insulina> hello, I have a bamboo wacom pen and touch tablet, and I follow install it with success, but the settings are not rigth I think the size is not correct, but I cant find where to modify this, this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom says that the configuration are in  here /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ but I cant see any files in there
[18:23] <JohnMF> Is there a way to remove a symlink?
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> insulina:  you can make a file in there.
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> A_j: search the bugs to see if there is a known fix or workaround
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> JohnMF:  you can delete a symlink as if it was a file.
[18:23] <fluitfries> does anyone have experience installing LoL game via WINE using this?  winelol_1.3.16-2_amd64.deb  thanks!!
[18:23] <mrwes> JohnMF: delete it
[18:23] <leg3nd> ActionParsnip, Yea, I always though that was just done automaticly when installed from the repos, but good to know.
[18:23] <JohnMF> mrwes: So when I link file1 to file2, creating the link will delete my file1?
[18:23] <JohnMF> overwide it?
[18:23] <Reaper4231> sorry, can anyone know how to fix my problem, with wubi when i reboot to finish the installation of ubuntu, counlnt open iso
[18:24] <JohnMF> override**
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> JohnMF:   delete the link.. deletes the link.. not the file.
[18:24] <mrwes> what Doc said
[18:24] <JohnMF> What command do i use to delete the link
[18:24] <mrwes> :)
[18:24] <JohnMF> rm -rf would delete the file
[18:24] <JohnMF> ..
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> JohnMF:  play wth the ln -s command   with some fake filenames..
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> rm linkname
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> leg3nd: udev usually detects stuff but sometimes it needs a hand
[18:24] <JohnMF> ...
[18:24] <JohnMF> Don't think you get me
[18:24] <fluitfries> the problem i have with winelol_1.3.16-2_amd64.deb is that when i try to install -i it says i do not have dependencies.  but when i look these depends up in Synaptic, I see that they are all installed....
[18:25] <mrwes> JohnMF: remember, it's symbolic
[18:25] <Danielcg25> Does Wine work with Mac apps too?
[18:25] <Jasonn> How do i start the VPN service in xubuntu?
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> Danielcg25:  err.. No.
[18:25] <JohnMF> > I want to link file1 to file2 so that anything that tries to access file1, will see file2.     Although, file1 currently has info in it that I don't want to be deleted
[18:25] <giff> JohnMF, it's no good idea to default to always using -rf when all you want to do is delete a _file_
[18:25] <JohnMF> So later on.. removing the symlink from file1, will delete its current contents too?
[18:25] <Danielcg25> Is there something like wine for Mac software?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> JohnMF: why would deleting a link need force? And if it is a file, why is recursive needed?
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> JohnMF:  a soft link.. is differnt from a hard link.. removeing a soft link will not delete the original file/data.
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> writing TO a softlink.. will write to the original file.
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> Danielcg25:  never seen such a thing.
[18:26] <fluitfries> is there a command switch for dpkg i am missing?  one that forces install or fetches dependencies?
[18:26] <JohnMF> Dr_Willis: So how do you make a soft link, and remove it
[18:26] <Jasonn> ActionParsnip: I am trying to connect to a VPN, but it gives me an error that the VPN service could not start... Any ideas?
[18:26] <edbian> JohnMF, Why do you need file1 to be the symlink?  Make a backup of file1.  Make the symlink with file1 for a name.  When you need to delete file 2 manually remove the symlink and rename file1.bak to just file1
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: try: sudo apt-get -f install
[18:26] <leg3nd> JohnMF, ln -s FILE1 FILE2
[18:27] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip: on a .deb file?
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> JohnMF:  ln -s foo foo2            then 'rm foo2'
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> or was it foo1  i forget the order..
[18:27] <cipherboy> fluitfries: dpkg -i /path/to/.deb
[18:27] <leg3nd> fluitfries, dpkg -i DEB_FILE.deb
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> fluitfries:  try 'gdebi foo.deb'
[18:27] <JohnMF> rm foo1 would remove the link as well as foo1's contents
[18:27] <JohnMF> ....
[18:27] <JohnMF> how to remove just the link?
[18:27] <edbian> Dr_Willis, target, link name
[18:27] <ProfNoel> hello
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> JohnMF:  make some files.. and try it. removeing a link wil;l NOT delete the original file.
[18:28] <mcl0vin> i need help with tap0 interface
[18:28] <JohnMF> so you have to rm twice before the contents are deleted?
[18:28] <JohnMF> ...
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Jasonn: no idea. Try asking the channel
[18:28] <JohnMF> not much docs on this
[18:28] <ProfNoel> on 11.04 how remove unity ???
[18:28] <Jasonn> I am trying to connect to a VPN, but it gives me an error that the VPN service could not start... Any ideas?
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> JohnMF:  man ln. perhaps..
[18:28] <JohnMF> yeh, not much
[18:28] <giff> JohnMF, even with hardlinks, only if all links are deleted the "file" is really deleted
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> JohnMF:  if you want to delete the link AND the original. you delete both.
[18:28] <JohnMF> like i said ^
[18:28] <TTY_problem> How can I remove and purge all the keys from a PPA?
[18:28] <fluitfries> Dr_Willis: let me install gdebi
[18:28] <drc> !natty | ProfNoel
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> JohnMF:  i never needed many docs.. its never been an issue.. you are thinking its doing things its not.. play with it for 4 min and learn.
[18:29] <mcl0vin> i setup a tap 0 interface , and connect it to a cloud in GNS3 , i can ping the tap 0 int but not what is connected to it which is on the same /24 network
[18:29] <cipherboy> ProfNoel, log out, and before you sign back in, select Ubuntu Desktop Edition.
[18:30] <geoffmcc> Jasonn: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-pptp-vpn-server-with-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html // I followed this guide and have no problems with my vpn, maybe it will help you
[18:30] <ProfNoel> cipherboy, thanks
[18:31] <fluitfries> Dr_Willis: you are the man!  thanks!
[18:31] <nit-wit> ProfNoel, I 'll talk to you on #ubuntu+1
[18:31] <Jasonn> geoffmcc: Thanks for the help, but looks like the link is down from here D:
[18:31] <cipherboy> ProfNoel: you could also remove the unity package...
[18:31] <drc> ProfNoel: That doesn't not "remove" Unity, it just boots you into the desktop edition, was that what you wanted?
[18:32] <mcl0vin> how do i disable iptables in my box
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> !firewall | mcl0vin
[18:32] <geoffmcc> Jasonn: oh sorry. yup looks like ubuntugeek is down right now
[18:32] <Jasonn> geoffmcc: Ill try going on it in about an hour, thanks for your help :)
[18:33] <ProfNoel> drc and cipherboy remove unity as default shell for all user... i'll switch to #ubuntu+1
[18:33] <leg3nd> mcl0vin, 'iptables -F && iptables -X' will flush all IPtables rules in the table
[18:33] <geoffmcc> Jasonn: http://cviorel.easyblog.ro/2009/02/09/how-to-set-up-a-vpn-server-on-ubuntu/    <--- pretty much the same tut
[18:34] <Jasonn> geoffmcc: I am not trying to install the VPN server, i already have that, im trying to connect to tit
[18:35] <dany> hola,¿como se abren archivos UDF en ubuntu 10.10?
[18:35] <geoffmcc> Jasonn: yea if not working for you would prob be config so i thought maybe that would help. Another thing would be maybe ipsec passthrew on router?
[18:36] <Jasonn> geoffmcc: How would i do that? And what would that do?
[18:36] <giff> !es >dany
[18:37] <geoffmcc> Jasonn: on my dd-wrt router its in security /vpn passthrew  .. enabled IPSec Passthroug, PPTP Passthrough and L2TP Passthrough
[18:39] <ZULO> leg3nd, here the picture http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/5426/problemq.jpg
[18:39] <redboat> r
[18:40] <redboat> does anyone know how to find the Leo Laporte TwitTV IRC channel?
[18:40] <geoffmcc> Jasonn: also assuming you have forwarded port 1723 and is also open in firewall
[18:40] <leg3nd> ZULO, so you have connectivity on wlan0 on the laptop?
[18:41] <drc> redboat: http://irc.twit.tv/
[18:41] <phillyj> My built-in 5-in-1 card reader won't work anymore but it was working until update manager downloaded a bunch of files.
[18:41] <phillyj> i tried lsusb and it is listed but when I put my xD or SD card in their slots, the light don't turn on and nothing happens
[18:41] <phillyj> What do I do? I can't find anything on google that can help me
[18:41] <ZULO> leg3nd, when i turn off eth0 i have internet, but when turn on i have access to router 1 and router 2 but without internet, not resolv
[18:41] <phillyj> x.D card not xD
[18:41] <FactTech> phillyj: Are you able to mount the drives manually?
[18:42] <phillyj> FactTech: How do I do that?
[18:42] <FactTech> philly: What distro are you using, regular Ubuntu?
[18:42] <phillyj> WUBI
[18:42] <leg3nd> ZULO, hmmm.. i think i know the problem
[18:43] <FactTech> phillyj: WUBI is a system for installing a distribution, not a distribution itself. I'm guessing regular Ubuntu. Try the Places menu.
[18:43] <phillyj> FactTech: 11.04
[18:43] <leg3nd> ZULO, go into the router 2   (not the internet gateway) and make sure you have DHCP turned off. I think that your 2nd router is stealing DHCP offers and giving out bogus DNS servers.
[18:43] <ZenT510> !11.04 | phillyj
[18:43] <phillyj> oooh
[18:44] <leg3nd> ZULO, really the 2nd router is only being used as a switch, and should only be using the 4 switch ports as well. not the internet port. (assuming its a crappy home router)
[18:44] <ebbe> Hello! My wireless connection keeps dropping and does not reconnect automatically (even though it should, according to the setting). I'm using 10.04 and my chipset is Broadcom BCM4312. I have the latest proprietary driver up and running. My windows machine does not drop the connection. Suggestions?
[18:44] <ZULO> leg3nd, im usin rj45 ports
[18:44] <leg3nd> ZULO, there all rj45 ports
[18:45] <ZULO> leg3nd, only 2 for my laptop and my desktop
[18:45] <ZULO> no more
[18:46] <leg3nd> ZULO, okay, well considering your pinging around the LAN that doesnt really seem like the problem i was just pointing it out
[18:46] <leg3nd> ZULO, the real problem sounds like conflicting DHCP servers on the 2 routers
[18:46] <Dattebayo> does anyone know how cani run dat ?
[18:46] <leg3nd> ZULO, so connect up through ethernet and pop in '192.68.2.1' into a web browser and disable DHCP (you may need to assign static addresses after)
[18:47] <ZULO> no leg3nd dhcp in router 2 has turned off
[18:47] <ZULO> *is turned off
[18:47] <ZULO> im going crazy with this..xd
[18:48] <leg3nd> ZULO, then your dhclient SHOULD be pulling addresses from router 1 on the 192.168.1.0 subnet.
[18:48] <leg3nd> ZULO, and you should have connectivity if you had it before via wireless
[18:48] <MarkusT> I'd love to "debootstrap" Ubuntu 10.04 on a LVM/RAID1 system (via a rescue system over SSH). I've create a logical volume for /boot and another volume for the rest of the install. How do I convince debootstrap to use those? It seems it expects a single partition?
[18:49] <leg3nd> MarkusT, No idea about debootstrap but you can create logical volumes with 'lvcreate' assuming your using LVM2
[18:49] <ZULO> leg3nd, i have connectivity to router 1 via wireless but not have internet when turn on eth0
[18:49] <leg3nd> MarkusT, http://readm3.org/os/ubuntu/full-disk-encryption-lvm-luks     this tutorial helped me alot when tackling lvm2
[18:50] <ZULO> without eth0 i have internet without problems
[18:50] <MarkusT> leg3nd: I already created the  volumes.  I just need debootstrap to use them :-)
[18:50] <leg3nd> ZULO, whats the IP for eth0?
[18:50] <dejan_> how can I check all users who are loged at my os?
[18:50] <leg3nd> MarkusT, ahhh sorry thats out of my league, never done it with raid before =\
[18:51] <ZULO> leg3nd,  192.168.2.2 and gateway 192.168.1.2
[18:51] <edbian> dejan_, who
[18:51] <leg3nd> ZULO, lol theres your problem
[18:51] <itaylor57> dejan_: w or who
[18:51] <leg3nd> ZULO, your trying to connect to a gateway that is not in the same subnet
[18:51] <dejan_> why i have 2 users :S
[18:52] <dejan_> dejan    tty7         2011-03-26 14:38 (:0)
[18:52] <dejan_> dejan    pts/0        2011-03-26 19:09 (:0.0)
[18:52] <dejan_> why is this it should be only 1 user
[18:52] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, 'Module nvidia not found
[18:52] <Guest46552> when i click places > home folder, kino starts, how do i change this?
[18:52] <wingless> I'm facing a strange problem. There seems to be an invisible window on top of every other window which eats the mouse events... xwininfo doesn't really help and xkill doesn't seem to be able to kill it. xkill -id kills compiz... Any ideas?
[18:52] <ZULO> leg3nd, but if i use as gateway my wlan0 ip i have connection to both routers
[18:52] <edbian> dejan_, The tty7 is your graphical env.   the pts/0 is the terminal you have open
[18:52] <Guest46552> i want nautilus or something to start
[18:52] <edbian> dejan_, You're logged in twice. (perfectly normal)
[18:52] <dejan_> why i don't see apache
[18:52] <leg3nd> ZULO, dhclient should correct it. if your using static you need to use these settings:  address: 192.168.1.3, gateway: 192.168.1.1, subnet mask 255.255.255.0, network 192.168.1.0, broadcast 192.168.1.255
[18:52] <edbian> dejan_, That is not a user
[18:53] <dejan_> apache is running but i don't see it
[18:53] <dejan_> it uses user
[18:53] <dejan_> called 'apache'
[18:53] <edbian> dejan_, Sorry, that is not a user logged in right now.
[18:53] <dejan_> hm ok..
[18:53] <leg3nd> ZULO, your trying to make 2 subnets which isnt needed, that sounds like the real problem. Is there a reason for the 2 subnets?
[18:53] <guitar431> @dejan you could use the netsat command
[18:53] <edbian> dejan_, It is a process that has the permissions of the user 'apache' but it doesn't actually log in.
[18:53] <dejan_> just 1 more thing how to check all users on my o
[18:53] <guitar431> netstat
[18:53] <dejan_> os
[18:53] <edbian> dejan_, So it won't show up in who
[18:53] <glitchd> can i upgrade to kernel 2.6.38 if im still running 10.04?
[18:53] <edbian> dejan_, Read the /etc/passwd file to see all the users
[18:53] <dejan_> ahm
[18:53] <dejan_> i see..
[18:54] <dejan_> but when I login i have to choose betwee my user and apache
[18:54] <dejan_> i think i made apache user im not sure
[18:54] <Dattebayo> can anyone tell me how can i run .dat(VCD) files?
[18:54] <ZULO> leg3nd, i want share internet connection with 2nd subnet
[18:54] <leg3nd> dejan_, the user is 'www-data' not apache
[18:54] <guitar431> @dejan netstat gives you all in and outgoing traffic
[18:54] <ZULO> leg3nd,  can i share this with only 1 net?
[18:54] <leg3nd> dejan_, its probably a security issue using a custom user unless you really know what your doing in regard to GID UID and groups
[18:54] <dejan_> there is no passwd directory in etc
[18:55] <dejan_> okok its file
[18:55] <giff> glitchd, yes it's possiblem there's ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[18:55] <leg3nd> ZULO, do you need more then 255 addresses? I just dont see why you would need to with that topology
[18:55] <ZULO> no, i need only 2 addres more xd
[18:55] <dejan_> but when ubuntu starts i have optuon to choose from which user i login one is mine other is apache
[18:56] <edbian> dejan_, Get rid of the apache user.  You shouldn't have that.
[18:56] <dejan_> how
[18:56] <TTY_problem> with my "old" keyboard if I type "1" in gedit it works but if I type "1" in terminal it writes  "~1"      How do you explain this?
[18:56] <nicofs> How can i set up vinagre via console?
[18:56] <glitchd> giff, how would i get the ppa?
[18:56] <dejan_> if i delete it i will still be able to use apache?
[18:56] <ikonia> TTY_problem: probably a difference keyboard map needed
[18:56] <dejan_> i have no idea of linux
[18:56] <glitchd> giff, and do u know if its supports a pae extension?
[18:56] <dejan_> im total beginner :S
[18:56] <dejan_> how to delete apache user pls
[18:57] <ikonia> dejan_: why do you want to do that
[18:57] <edbian> dejan_, Yes.  Apache uses the www-data user (which it handles) a user named 'apache' is complete unnecessary
[18:57] <leg3nd> ZULO, if your using NAT why dont you just change the mask on router 1 to something with more addresses
[18:57] <MarkusT> leg3nd: Nevermind, I figured it out. Just needed to mount /boot inside / on the mount point. :-)
[18:57] <caimlas__> dejan_, more than likely what you did was set a shell for the apache user. apache user should not have a shell.
[18:57] <dejan_> ikonia: if I don't need it
[18:57] <ikonia> dejan_: you need it to run apache
[18:57] <leg3nd> MarkusT, so the boot is encrypted too?
[18:57] <caimlas__> dejan_, I'm not 100% sure but I think ubuntu uses the same www-data user that debian does.
[18:57] <edbian> dejan_, http://www.ahinc.com/linux101/users.htm   Please try to google before asking
[18:57] <dejan_> someone told me to do that
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  odd.. gdm normally hides such users. ive never seen it show my apache user.
[18:57] <dejan_> :S
[18:57] <caimlas__> dejan_, so you shouldn't even need it, i don't think
[18:57] <insulina> how can I see what version is my ubuntu ?
[18:57] <dejan_> maybe he hacked my os? :S
[18:57] <dejan_> omg
[18:58] <dejan_> look what ikonia says
[18:58] <mrwes> insulina: from the terminal lsb_release -a
[18:58] <dejan_> i need that?
[18:58] <leg3nd> Dr_Willis, thats becuase apache isnt the default user.. www-data is..
[18:58] <caimlas__> dejan_, um so did you give the other guy the user/pass?
[18:58] <ikonia> dejan_: what ?
[18:58] <MarkusT> leg3nd: I'm not working with encryption, I'm trying to set up a server with LVM/RAID to which I don't have physical access to.
[18:58] <edbian> Dr_Willis, Apache does not have a user named apache.  It has a user named www-data
[18:58] <leg3nd> MarkusT, ooooohhhhhh, god that makes alot more sense now lol
[18:58] <dejan_> i think i have added it
[18:59] <dejan_> manually
[18:59] <dejan_> someone told me
[18:59] <giff> glitchd, no idea about pae, can't you use 64bit? here's a tutorial http://ubuntuguide.net/install-latest-kernel-2-6-37-2-6-38-in-ubuntu-10-04-from-ppa
[18:59] <dejan_> maybe he hacked my os
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> dejan_: or you are being paranoid.
[18:59] <Randy105> I installed Lemon pos and cna not get it to work I get a database error any Ideas
[18:59] <dejan_> so now should i delete apache user?
[18:59] <leg3nd> dejan_, yes defenitly
[18:59] <glitchd> giff, i have tried 64 bit, i dont like it
[18:59] <leg3nd> dejan_, userdel apache
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  if you added a user. you can use rmuser or deluser or userdelete to remove it. i recall.
[18:59] <caimlas__> ikonia, dejan_ are you sure ubuntu uses the 'apache' user?
[18:59] <glitchd> giff, it never wants to work correctly for me
[18:59] <edbian> dejan_, Or the gui.  Please try something before asking us here.
[18:59] <glitchd> giff, neither has and version past 10.04
[18:59] <ikonia> caimlas__: no, it uses a user account called www-data, but you need "an" account to control apache
[18:59] <dejan_> dejan    tty7         2011-03-26 14:38 (:0)
[18:59] <dejan_> dejan    pts/0        2011-03-26 19:09 (:0.0)
[18:59] <dejan_> why is this
[18:59] <dejan_> wait
[19:00] <glitchd> giff, so im sticking with what works
[19:00] <dejan_> wait
[19:00] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:00] <ikonia> dejan_: sudo userdel -r apache
[19:00] <edbian> caimlas__, ikonia dejan_ Ubuntu does not use an apache user.  apache uses www-data
[19:00] <dejan_> why error?
[19:00] <ikonia> edbian: I know this
[19:00] <caimlas__> edbian, that's what I thought.
[19:00] <vanillaslice> hello
[19:00] <caimlas__> don't think i've seen an apache user in a number of years on any distro
[19:00] <vanillaslice> can someone tell me how to delete applications?
[19:00] <vanillaslice> i have used apt-get to install something
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> vanillaslice:  sudo apt-get remove pacakgename
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> !apt | vanillaslice
[19:01] <vanillaslice> thanks Dr_Willis
[19:01] <dejan_> [sudo] password for dejan:
[19:01] <edbian> vanillaslice, apt-get purge to remove settings as well
[19:01] <dejan_> userdel: user apache is currently logged in
[19:01] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, I have the 10.10 Dektop iso bootable
[19:01] <dejan_> im sure someone hacked my server :S
[19:01] <giff> glitchd, you should probably report a bug on your issues, 64bit works pretty fine these days with almost all hardware and software
[19:01] <dejan_> but when i type who there isn't user apache
[19:01] <dejan_> ..
[19:01] <ikonia> dejan_: ok, then you need to re-install the OS
[19:01] <dejan_> maybe he is hiding?
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  or you are being paranoid.. if you want to be 100% safe.. reinstall.
[19:01] <guitar431> @dejan type in a shell "netstat -a -v -n 5 > logdatei.txt" and paste the file to pastebin and give us the link
[19:01] <ebbe> Bump: My wireless connection keeps dropping and does not reconnect (even though it should reconnect automatically according to the setting). I'm using 10.04 and Broadcom BCM4312. I checked that I have the latest proprietary driver up and running. The really strange thing is that my windows machine does not drop the connection. What could be the problem?
[19:01] <ikonia> dejan_: ps -ef | grep -i http put that in a pastebin
[19:01] <edbian> dejan_, Are you listening to us?  who shows users that are logged in.  Not all users total
[19:01] <mrwes> dejan_: if I ever thought my server was hacked, I'd reinstall the OS
[19:02] <dejan_> omg
[19:02] <guitar431> @dejan we can tell you after this if you are hacked
[19:02] <vanillaslice> thanks guys
[19:02] <glitchd> giff, well im only talking from experience, i have given 64 bit a few chances, each time it has ended with me having to reinstall the whole os
[19:02] <dejan_> i will reinstall
[19:02] <dejan_> most def
[19:02] <dejan_> because i didn;t made swap
[19:02] <dejan_> :)
[19:02] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:02] <glitchd> giff, so like i said, im sticking with 32 bit
[19:02] <ikonia> ok, then we are done
[19:02] <mrwes> heh
[19:02] <dejan_> any good tutorial to install ubuntu 10.10 pls
[19:02] <dejan_> for total beginner to linux
[19:02] <leg3nd> lol, dejan_  swap isnt really a big deal honestly, and your probably not hacked...
[19:02] <ikonia> !install | dejan_
[19:02] <dejan_> i need tutorial for beginner to make swap too
[19:02] <dejan_> i have no idea what is swap
[19:02] <intrader> Tactix, IdleOne, leg3nd, I have a broken nvidia kernel module - I have reinstalled, but does not work; boots to a text terminal. I have the 10.10 Dektop iso bootable
[19:02] <leg3nd> dejan_, if you have NAT, your probably fine.
[19:02] <glitchd> dejan_, i would think u just install it like any other distro
[19:03] <ikonia> leg3nd: nat does not mean he's fine
[19:03] <glitchd> dejan_, boot from cd and go from there following the on-screen prompts
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  you may want to spend some time learning linux basics then - befor messing with apache.
[19:03] <leg3nd> ikonia, i highly doubt he got owned with a reverse tcp payload..
[19:03] <dejan_> edbian
[19:03] <dejan_> see this
[19:03] <ikonia> leg3nd: he did if he gave someone an account
[19:03] <dejan_> edbian:  [sudo] password for dejan:
[19:03] <dejan_> userdel: user apache is currently logged in
[19:03] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  and the default install setup makes a swap partition.
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  so log the apache user off.
[19:03] <dejan_> i cant delete apache user
[19:03] <dejan_> it says it is loged in
[19:03] <nickkontos> hello, my ubuntu 10.10 desktop installation doesn't boot up, after grub loads and i select any kernel, it cannot mount / (s to skip or m to manual) I got this after booting with a xubuntu live cd and hard reseting my machine instead of rebooting normaly... please help!
[19:03] <dejan_> but can't look with whi
[19:03] <dejan_> who*
[19:04] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:04] <ikonia> dejan_: show me the output of "ps -ef | grep -i apache" in a pastebin please
[19:04] <leg3nd> dejan_, just pastebin netstat -antp and ill tell you if your hacked, its really not hard.
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  reboot to single user/recovery mode and remove the user perhaps.
[19:04] <edbian> dejan_, sudo who
[19:04] <edbian> ?
[19:04] <edbian> dejan_, It is very strange that you can't see the user.
[19:05] <dejan_> pls any tutorial about swap
[19:05] <ikonia> dejan_: stop
[19:05] <dejan_> i want swap on other partition as I have read is best solution?
[19:05] <ikonia> dejan_: show me the output of "ps -ef | grep apache" in a pastebin
[19:05] <ikonia> stop
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> nickkontos:  try booting a live cd and fscking the filesystems perhaps.
[19:05] <ikonia> dejan_: show me the output of "ps -ef | grep apache" in a pastebin
[19:05] <FloodBot3> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:05] <dejan_> also please advise be how much space should I put for the swap?
[19:05] <dejan_> and also what filesystem to install
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  swap by default is on its own partition. Unless you set it up otherwise
[19:05] <ikonia> dejan_: show me the output of "ps -ef | grep apache" in a pastebin
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  swap is its own filesystem also.  the 'swap' filesystem. chedk your 'sudo fdisk -l' output.
[19:06] <dejan_> ikonia: now
[19:06] <Miri28> Hello, Does it possible to surf Internet via Iphone internet on Ubuntu ?
[19:06] <ikonia> dejan_: yes
[19:06] <ikonia> dejan_: use a pastebin
[19:06] <corambolino> hello
[19:06] <gechmog> If I rename a filesystem in /media/ with the 'mv' command, will that mess anything up? As in will I still be able to access that and not have to remount it or anything?
[19:06] <ikonia> Miri28: 4.3 ios makes a wirless hotspot
[19:06] <urupica> does anyone know in which file the wifi password is stored?
[19:06] <ikonia> gechmog: that is a bad idea
[19:06] <guitar431> exactly, netstat gives you all open connections so there is no need to fuck off through paranoia
[19:06] <leg3nd> ikonia, dejan_ , you guys are right the user should be deleted, but if your worried about a compromised system, you need to stop the service and close the port, the user can be dealt with ater.
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> Miri28:  check out how to 'teather' your iphone. thats the feature used to let pcs and other things to the internet throught ht phone.,.
[19:07] <spyzer> hi everyone i do not have a xorg.conf thought i have a hd radeon on my laptop. Do i need to create one in order to harness the full power of my gpu??
[19:07] <ikonia> leg3nd: I fully understand that, hence why I want to know if the user is running a process, stopping the account beeing deleted
[19:07] <oCean> guitar431: mind the language please
[19:07] <gechmog> ikonia: ah, I thought as much. :(
[19:07] <nickkontos> Dr_Willis, im online from the same xubuntu disk, how to fsck?
[19:07] <guitar431> :)
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> nickkontos:  the 'fsck' command.
[19:07] <kb_problem> hi again
[19:07] <ikonia> gechmog: I'm not laughing,
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> !fsck
[19:07] <ikonia> oops
[19:07] <nicofs> I need help setting up vinagre/vnc on a server i can only access via console... please, can someone help?
[19:07] <vanillaslice> okso i inustalled pure-ftpd-common, whic has compelted. but when i try to reinstall it gives me a message: pure-ftpd-common is already the newest version
[19:07] <corambolino> is information about hack lcd TV ?
[19:07] <vanillaslice> is there a trace of this somewhere?
[19:07] <ikonia> corambolino: no
[19:08] <ikonia> vanillaslice: trace of what ?
[19:08] <spyzer> umm is that an out of ubuntu question??
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> nicofs:  install some vnc service. configure it to run what desktop you want., set up a ssh tunnel if its over the internet. (no need on a local lan) and connect.
[19:08] <intrader> I have a broken nvidia kernel module - I have reinstalled, but does not work; boots to a text terminal. I have the 10.10 Dektop iso bootable
[19:08] <vanillaslice> ikoniaL this ftp server ... it seems to think it is still installed
[19:08] <Malu> anyone know how to get to play wmv movie files in ubuntu ?
[19:08] <ikonia> vanillaslice: open the package manager, search for pure-ftp mark it for uninstall
[19:08] <leg3nd> dejan_, its debatable, how much RAM do you have?
[19:08] <ZenT510> !codecs | Malu
[19:08] <vanillaslice> ikonia: this is on a VPS, so command line only
[19:09] <nicofs> Dr_Willis, i installed vinagre - but how do i set it up via console?
[19:09] <ikonia> vanillaslice: ok, use dpkg
[19:09] <spyzer> anybody??
[19:09] <leg3nd> dejan_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[19:09] <glitchd> i read that kernel 2.6.38 brings a huge performance boost, can anyone confirm this?
[19:09] <vanillaslice> cheers ikonia
[19:09] <leg3nd> dejan_, google if your friend
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> nicofs:  I dont think you want to use that one.. that one only shares teh current desktop. its limited.
[19:09] <ikonia> dejan_: forget swap
[19:09] <edbian> glitchd, Sure can.
[19:09] <ikonia> dejan_: focus on what you're doing, give me the output of "ps -ef | grep apache"
[19:09] <gechmog> ikonia: is there anyway you know of to rename a filesystem safely and easily?
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> nicofs:  stick to tightvnc, or vnc4server or some other vncserver you can configure easially.
[19:09] <spyzer> hi everyone i do not have a xorg.conf thought i have a hd radeon on my laptop. Do i need to create one in order to harness the full power of my gpu??
[19:09] <ikonia> gechmog: you can rename any file system, however /media is used by auto mounter, so renaming that one is a bad idea
[19:10] <nicofs> Dr_Willis, ok... i'll try...
[19:10] <leg3nd> ikonia, you do knwo thats not even going to give you the port..
[19:10] <ikonia> spyzer: yes, you will need to make one
[19:10] <ikonia> leg3nd: I don't want the port
[19:10] <glitchd> edbian, how big of a performance increase does it bring?
[19:10] <Malu> ty for the help :D
[19:10] <spyzer> ikonia: so will the default one have the necessary options
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> nicofs:  you could just ssh -X remotebox, and run an app. and not use vnc at all. this just shows a single app locally. not a whole desktop
[19:10] <leg3nd> ikonia, netstat  or a nmap -p1-65535 is more suited for defensive security.
[19:10] <ikonia> spyzer: no
[19:10] <spyzer> or do i need to add the options too
[19:10] <glitchd> edbian, is it really noticeable? meaning is it worth it to upgrade my kernel?
[19:10] <ikonia> leg3nd: I'm not interested in any of that, I want to know if the user is running a process
[19:10] <RussellAlan> Can anyone help me with install of Heimdall for ubuntu 10.10?
[19:10] <Darxus> "W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-security/main/source/Sources.gz  Hash Sum mismatch
[19:10] <gechmog> ikonia: thank you very for the info, I didn't know that xD
[19:10] <Darxus> , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead."
[19:11] <nickkontos> Dr_Willis, running it right now :D it has found many problems... is that good?
[19:11] <edbian> glitchd, It increases responsiveness under very heavy load.
[19:11] <ikonia> Darxus: what mirror are you using
[19:11] <glitchd> edbian, ok
[19:11] <kb_problem> How do I set Ubuntu to search hidden files/folders by default? I don't want to click "select more options" everytime.
[19:11] <Darxus> ikonia: That looks like I'm using the main one?
[19:11] <ikonia> Darxus: what "main one", what repo are you using
[19:11] <glitchd> edbian, also do u know if there are pae headers that can be installed on it because i have 8 gigs of ram and thats the only way i can use them with a 32 bit install
[19:12] <RussellAlan> Can anyone help me with install of Heimdall for ubuntu 10.10?
[19:12] <edbian> glitchd, I tried to find some info about it.  All I could find is some short alternative that does the same thing.
[19:12] <ikonia> glitchd: do not update your ubuntu machine to that kernel
[19:12] <dejan_> I am sorry
[19:12] <Darxus> ikonia: host is returning 91.189.92.167 and 91.189.92.166.
[19:12] <glitchd> ikonia, whys that?
[19:12] <dejan_> my os freezed
[19:12] <edbian> glitchd, Why not use the 64 bit version of Ubuntu?  (11.04 will have the magic 200 line patch BTW)
[19:12] <dejan_> ikonia: can you please write that command
[19:12] <glitchd> edbian, and what are those?
[19:12] <ikonia> Darxus: I'm not asking you for host, I'm asking you for the name of the host
[19:12] <lefty__> Ook I need help putting Ubuntu on my Computer
[19:12] <dejan_> ikonia: for apache user
[19:12] <ikonia> dejan_: ps -ef | grep apache
[19:12] <edbian> glitchd, What are what?
[19:12] <glitchd> edbian, i just dont like 64 bit ubuntu
[19:13] <lefty__> I need help putting Ubuntu on my Computer
[19:13] <glitchd> edbian, the alternatives u spoke of
[19:13] <Darxus> ikonia: How would it be different from the one in the url I pasted?
[19:13] <oCean> kb_problem: you can set that using gconf-editor
[19:13] <ikonia> Darxus: give me the name of the host you are using if you want help, if not - stop talking
[19:13] <leg3nd> ikonia, if you want to kill processes for a user just use pkill, why compicate things.
[19:13] <dejan_> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/AHHU99b0
[19:13] <edbian> glitchd, Here's a whole thread about it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13562/how-do-we-get-this-magic-performance-boosting-200-line-patch
[19:13] <ikonia> leg3nd: I don't want to kill anything, for the last time, I want to know what's running
[19:13] <leg3nd> dejan_, just run 'pkill -u apache && userdel apache'
[19:13] <leg3nd> ikonia, yea pkill does that for you
[19:13] <dejan_> ikonia: before freezing it were more apaches
[19:13] <ZenT510> !install | lefty__
[19:13] <ikonia> no it won't
[19:14] <Darxus> ikonia: I'm pretty sure I already answered your question.
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> userdel has a --force option. :)
[19:14] <intrader> I have a broken nvidia kernel module - I have reinstalled the nvidiia, but does not work; boots to a text terminal. I have the 10.10 Dektop iso bootable , please help
[19:14] <Darxus> In the first line I said.
[19:14] <ikonia> leg3nd: I don't want to kill anything
[19:14] <dejan_> i am hacked?
[19:14] <dejan_> http://pastebin.com/AHHU99b0
[19:14] <christopher_> ikonia, use Windows I am about to format for Windows Ubuntu has some major issues
[19:14] <tbws> hey guys, nginx seems to be blocking my application update and upgrade functionality, is there anyway to solve this that's not at an application controled level?new and experimental stuff I can just do at home
[19:14] <dejan_> i am sure someome hacked me
[19:14] <tbws> http://pastebin.com/1asqJPh2
[19:14] <leg3nd> dejan_, no you just have alot of crap
[19:14] <lefty__> I have netbook
[19:14] <christopher_> everything is slow and buggy
[19:14] <ikonia> dejan_: you can't remove the apache user as the "apache" user is currently running an apache2 webserver
[19:14] <ikonia> dejan_: it is just a non-standard setup
[19:14] <dejan_> becasue whe i tried to del user apache it says user is loged in cant delete but when i type who there is no user apache loged in/
[19:14] <christopher_> like nothing works properly, brasero just wonr start
[19:14] <edbian> dejan_, That is normal.  Apache uses multiple processes to increase performance
[19:14] <leg3nd> dejan_, this is what you need to do to correct your problem
[19:15] <ikonia> dejan_: the user is in use running the apache webserver, so that's why you can't delete it
[19:15] <leg3nd> dejan_, chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/       /etc/init.d/apache2 stop   userdel --force apache
[19:15] <edbian> ikonia, apache does not use an apache user.  It uses a www-data user
[19:15] <ikonia> leg3nd: stop
[19:15] <dejan_> why i can't see it with who
[19:15] <ikonia> dejan_: do not do that
[19:15] <erUSUL> tbws: how it is blocking it?
[19:15] <ikonia> leg3nd: you don't know how his machine is setup,
[19:15] <zetyu> hello
[19:15] <christopher_> fuck Ubuntu and fuck all of you, some of you have been awesome to me but nothing works the way it should, I suggest work on making it stable rather than making a new unity BS thing
[19:15] <dejan_> pl
[19:15] <dejan_> ok
[19:15] <leg3nd> ikonia, iv been here for an hour, i do.
[19:15] <kb_problem> oCean: do you know the path for it?
[19:15] <ikonia> leg3nd: so ?
[19:15] <dejan_> ikonia: i wil lreinstall the os
[19:15] <zetyu> why postfix not available
[19:16] <leg3nd> ikonia, he added a user with  G/UID around 1k.. chowned -R www/
[19:16] <zetyu>  i can't install it
[19:16] <erUSUL> zetyu: it is
[19:16] <leg3nd> ikonia, and restarted the service
[19:16] <ikonia> dejan_: if you feel you have to - that's fine, but I do not believe you have to
[19:16] <erUSUL> !info postfix
[19:16] <tbws> erUSUL: won't perform any of the install's or upgrades i'm currently trying to make because of that error (currently running ludic btw)
[19:16] <dejan_> pls any good guide for making swap file and filesystem because i am total beginner to linux
[19:16] <leg3nd> ikonia, so correct the user ownership, and delete the uneeded user.
[19:16] <tbws> *lucid
[19:16] <ikonia> leg3nd: why ? there is not a problem
[19:16] <zetyu> it is not wavailble
[19:16] <lefty__> I'm trying to get 10.10 netbook iso to install i put on my USB but it isnt booting
[19:16] <oCean> kb_problem: 1 moment
[19:16] <edbian> leg3nd, When he tries to delete the user 'apache' there is an error that apache is logged in
[19:16] <erUSUL> tbws: what error ?
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> zetyu:  update/upgrade  the pacakge listings. and try reinstalling it.
[19:16] <leg3nd> ikonia, apache with G/UID of ~1001, thats a problem.
[19:16] <edbian> leg3nd, Please follow the discussion
[19:16] <ikonia> edbian: because it's running a webserver
[19:16] <ikonia> leg3nd: why is that a problem
[19:16] <leg3nd> edbian, read more, i said kill apache
[19:16] <zetyu> yes done
[19:17] <oCean> kb_problem: desktop > gnome > file_views, then show_hidden_files
[19:17] <edbian> ikonia, No, apache is not a user that apache uses
[19:17] <kb_problem> oCean: I found it
[19:17] <kb_problem> oh
[19:17] <tbws> erUSUL: http://pastebin.com/1asqJPh2
[19:17] <dejan_> cmon dont fight :)
[19:17] <zetyu> i upgrade and update
[19:17] <edbian> leg3nd, apache does not use an apache user
[19:17] <leg3nd> ikonia, becuase thats too much power for a web server, its a security issue.
[19:17] <zetyu> but can't find my package
[19:17] <ikonia> edbian: on his machien it IS
[19:17] <ikonia> edbian: on his machine, it DOES
[19:17] <kb_problem> oCean: no thats not what I want. :P it'sfor  earch
[19:17] <leg3nd> edbian, yea he added it, apache uses www-data.
[19:17] <ikonia> leg3nd: don't talk nonsense
[19:17] <Goliath>  is jack 2 a superset of jack?
[19:17] <dejan_> someone told me to make the user i think he hacked me
[19:17] <lefty__> I'm trying to get 10.10 netbook iso to install i put on my USB but it isnt booting
[19:17] <ikonia> leg3nd: the uid doesn't matter as long as it's not 0
[19:17] <leg3nd> ikonia, nonsense?
[19:17] <zetyu> apt-get install postfix
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  making a user is not 'getting hacked'  and there was no need to make such a user.
[19:17] <dejan_> guys guys
[19:18] <leg3nd> ikonia, yea so when i compromise it i can compile programs and exploit the linux kernel, pro security bro.
[19:18] <dejan_> someone told me to make it
[19:18] <ikonia> I'll leave you to bumble through his mess,
[19:18] <zetyu> is it correct the package name ?
[19:18] <glitchd> edbian, so in your opinion, is it enough of a performance boost to upgrade my kernel to 2.6.38?
[19:18] <dejan_> and to write bunch of commands
[19:18] <edbian> ikonia, leg3nd I understand.  sorry!
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  and  the command.. userdel has a --force option. :)
[19:18] <edbian> glitchd, No.  I would just wait for Ubuntu 11.04
[19:18] <ikonia> leg3nd: no you can't
[19:18] <erUSUL> tbws: you are using a ppa for nginx? looks like a bad packaged nginx in that repo
[19:18] <dejan_> pls any good guide to making swap and filesydtem i am total beginner to linux
[19:18] <rooks> i want to do audio RTSP stream. preferably fed with pulse-what-you-hear stream, or existing wma/aac stream. did anyone managed to get it up and running, if so - how?
[19:18] <glitchd> edbian, ok thx
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  now lots of 'commands' can be a proboem.. You may just want to reinstall.. since we have no idea what else you may have done.
[19:18] <edbian> glitchd, Just my opinion though :)
[19:18] <leg3nd> ikonia, im a penteser for 6 years, what do i know about web server permissions.
[19:18] <ZenT510> !swap | dejan_
[19:18] <tbws> erUSUL: fair enough, is there a way to remove it?
[19:18] <ikonia> leg3nd: not much by the looks of it
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  the default install setup - makes a swap partition.
[19:18] <stittel> dejan_: It is not really the best idea to "type in a bunch of commands" which "somebody told you to enter" without having a clue what these commands really do.
[19:19] <guitar431> @dejan attempts to log on to ubuntu are logged you could check it there if you are hacked
[19:19] <erUSUL> tbws: if you really want to intall you can force it
[19:19] <leg3nd> ikoniac, www-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/bin/sh
[19:19] <mydoghasworms> Can upstart be used to monitor and respawn processes run for a user, e.g. let's say I use Gnome DO and want to ensure that it is respawned if it dies.
[19:19] <dejan_> any sugestio about how big should be swap ?
[19:19] <dejan_> and on other partition?
[19:19] <Goliath> is jack 2 a superset of jack?
[19:19] <leg3nd> ikonia, its G/UID is 33 and not 1000 for a reason.
[19:19] <dejan_> for best performance
[19:19] <glitchd> edbian, fer sure, thx. although, im not sure if ill be willing to leave 10.04
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  depends on your ram and system. and needs.
[19:19] <kb_problem> oCean: I found the setting: /apps/gnome-search-tool/show_additional_options
[19:19] <ikonia> leg3nd: so ?
[19:19] <jack_^> pong
[19:19] <greppy> dejan_: how much ram do you have?
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  and if its a laptop/desktop/
[19:19] <ikonia> leg3nd: no it's not it's just a reserved range
[19:19] <stittel> guitar431: If he is really hacked (an idea I find kinda ridiculous to be frank), the...em... "hacker" could just modifiy those logs, too.
[19:19] <intrader> I have a broken nvidia kernel module - I have reinstalled the nvidiia, but does not work; boots to a text terminal. I have the 10.10 Dektop iso bootable , please help. I am able to boot to previous kernel.
[19:19] <oCean> guitar431: the guy is not 'hacked'
[19:19] <erUSUL> tbws: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/nginx-common_0.8.54-4ppa17~lucid_all.deb
[19:19] <ikonia> I'm out
[19:20] <oCean> kb_problem: ah, ok.
[19:20] <leg3nd> ikonia, it will FUNCTION, but its not SECURE.
[19:20] <dejan_> 1 gb
[19:20] <guitar431> @stittel that might be true :)
[19:20]  * oCean admires ikonia's perseverance
[19:20] <dejan_> but i want best performance
[19:20] <dejan_> i don't need space
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  if you got the hd space.. make 2gb of swap then.
[19:20] <dejan_> on hdd
[19:20] <ikonia> leg3nd: sure sure, whatever,
[19:20] <dejan_> laptop
[19:20] <lefty__> .....................
[19:20] <greppy> dejan_: I would go with either 512 or 1gb of swap, depending on what you plan on doing with it.
[19:20] <dejan_> i have core 2 duo
[19:20] <dejan_> my procesor is ultimate but ram only 1 gb
[19:20] <ZenT510> ikonia: you tried your best, hold your head up high :)
[19:20] <dejan_> always procesor gets ahead of ram
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  the 'free' command will tell you how much swap you got and are using right now also.
[19:21] <drc> dejan_: Conventional wisdom is SWAP = 2xRAM
[19:21] <erUSUL> tbws: done?
[19:21] <dejan_> ok but swap on other partition
[19:21] <intrader> Anyone, I have a broken nvidia kernel module - I have reinstalled the nvidiia, but does not work; boots to a text terminal. I have the 10.10 Dektop iso bootable , please help. I am able to boot to previous kernel.
[19:21] <dejan_> so i make partition and I place only swap on that partition?
[19:21] <dejan_> oh
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  swap by default IS on a different PARTITION.
[19:21] <dejan_> I have no diea how to d othis :S
[19:21] <stittel> dejan_: With 1 GiB of RAM, I would make 1 or 2 GiB of swap (probably more like 2 GiB). Making more swap than 2 GiB however, will make your system slow if more than 3 GiB of memory is ever really needed.
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  how did you install anyway? check your sudo fdisk -l output. see where you rswap is now.
[19:22] <jack_^> intrader, is the nouveau module still loading?
[19:22] <dejan_> ok
[19:22] <edbian> stittel, I don't think too much swap ever makes the system slow does it?
[19:22] <oCean> dejan_: just start the installation, it will go through all the steps, including filesystem configuration
[19:22] <dejan_> i dont have swap
[19:22] <dejan_> :S
[19:22] <dejan_> i didnt made that
[19:22] <Dattebayo> how can i run .bin and .cue file without burning it on cd?
[19:22] <dejan_> I couldnt
[19:22] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  you spefiically told it not to?
[19:22] <stittel> dejan_: You also don't have to reinstall or repartition to create swap space, because you can just create a swap file on your current filesystem. If the swap file takes continuous space, there will be no performance penality for that (anymore).
[19:22] <dejan_> i need help for swap and filesystem
[19:22] <dejan_> Dr_Willis: i didnt knew how
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:   you dont 'run' them - you can mount them. and run whats on them.
[19:22] <intrader> jack_^, what is nouveau module?
[19:23] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  the isntaller does it auytomatically...
[19:23] <dejan_> stittel: i will reinstall because of security issue
[19:23] <stittel> edbian: Too much swap will make your system slow if that swap is ever really used .
[19:23] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  try the command --> sudo fdisk -l | grep swap
[19:23] <jack_^> intrader, its the nvidia module that comes with your ubuntu install
[19:23] <dejan_> about the filesystem
[19:23] <dejan_> what is best
[19:23] <dejan_> ?
[19:23] <edbian> stittel, Please explain?  The size of a filesystem does not decrease it's performance.
[19:23] <zetyu> can't install posfix here is the pastebin : http://paste.ubuntu.com/585953/
[19:23] <Dr_Willis> example -> my swap  partition -> /dev/sdb4           48509       48642     1063936   82  Linux swap / Solari
[19:23] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  swap IS its own filesystem type.
[19:23] <oCean> dejan_:
[19:23] <stittel> edbian: Instead of having a slow system when you really need that big swap, you would just run out-of-memory with a smaller swap of course.
[19:24] <oCean> dejan_: no need to ask all specific questions here. Follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall
[19:24] <Dattebayo> can archive mounter mount it?
[19:24] <drc> dejan_: Is this a dualboot (window & Ubuntu) or only a ubuntu machine?
[19:24] <dejan_> ok i will read now
[19:24] <dejan_> only ubuntu
[19:24] <Pumpkin-> Dattebayo: its been a while, but I think you can get something called "cdemu" that will let you mount a virtual device for a .bin/.cue, or you can convert it to an .iso and mount that. I'd have a google for "cdemu" first.
[19:24] <stittel> edbian: I didn't say that: I said that using a swap file instead of a swap partition is not a problem performance-wise.
[19:24] <intrader> jack_^, my previous kernel image in grub still boots Ok. just the current one does not. Boots to text terminal
[19:24] <oCean> dejan_: the guide also explains about filesystems and swap
[19:24] <dejan_> i don't pln to install win ever again
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  the fuseiso and fuseiso9660 tools can i tyhink. or you can convert it to a .iso then mount it otherways.
[19:24] <dejan_> except i will install ome v machines for web development testing
[19:24] <jack_^> intrader, ok. is the nouveau kernel module loaded?
[19:25] <drc> dejan_: I'd read what oCean gave you and ignore any other advise until you're read it
[19:25] <dejan_> ok
[19:25] <dejan_> i will ow
[19:25] <guitar431> windows is a good gaming console though
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> 'reading is always good'
[19:25] <ebbe> My wireless connection keeps dropping. I'm using 10.04 and my Windows machine does not drop the same wireless router. Apparently my 'chipset' is BCM4312 and I've check that I have the proprietary driver for it. What could be going on?
[19:25] <stittel> edbian: Simpilified explanation of why too much swap can slow down the system if it is actually used: The CPU can actually only compute stuff that has been loaded to its registers. Now since registers are small, you have a memory hiearchy beneath it, like CPU cache, RAM or swap space.
[19:25] <zetyu> hello thzete
[19:25] <zetyu> can't install posfix here is the pastebin : http://paste.ubuntu.com/585953/
[19:26] <edbian> stittel, We talked about this earlier today. I think that the swap file is probably slower but the FS and Linux kernel are good enough schedulers that the user percieved latency is probably 0.  Do you agree with this?
[19:26] <intrader> jack_^, I am confused, I am now talking from a windows machine running chatzilla. The ubuntu machine can be rebooted to the prior kernel image
[19:26] <jack_^> intrader, then do that.
[19:26] <stittel> edbian: Why do you think the swap file is slower? Newer kernels should just memorize the sectors of the continous swap file and directly access it without file system calls.
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  from what i recall - a swap file can be slower.. but these days.. swap is not used that much anyway. so its not a big issue. You can add a swap partition later  and use both.
[19:27] <jack_^> intrader, if the nouveau module is being loaded in the new kernel, it will conflict with the nvidia module
[19:27] <asiekierka> question
[19:27] <asiekierka> i'm booting ubuntu from an usb drive on a packard bell laptop
[19:27] <jack_^> intrader, also, check Xorg.1.log to see if it has a problem
[19:27] <asiekierka> but, the loading screen crashed
[19:27] <asiekierka> is there a way to open the console up
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  and whats your video chipset?
[19:27] <edbian> stittel, The amount of swap does not determine how many things the computer is trying to do at once.  So if the swap is bigger the performance will not decrease.  If the user starts running many many programs at once.  Then the system will slow down regardless of swap size.
[19:27] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis: idunno, the computer is 500km away
[19:27] <asiekierka> i only know it's a Packard Bell KMM00
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  and how are you seeing its loading screen?
[19:28] <stittel> edbian: Now the idea is to "get the stuff you want to compute" as fast/efficiently to your CPU registers. For that memory pages get pushed/removed to the registers, CPU cache, main memory or swap space.
[19:28] <intrader> jack_^, I would like to boot by default to an image that works. What is this about the nouveau conflicting; It I boot the top kernel it fails on the nvidia
[19:28] <dejan_> oCean: there isnt guide for swap and filesystem :S
[19:28] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis: in nice graphical quality
[19:28] <dejan_> ah ok i got for swap
[19:28] <asiekierka> now it turned off by itself
[19:28] <jack_^> intrader, then use the older kernel.
[19:28] <dejan_> but for filessytem?
[19:28] <asiekierka> o_o
[19:28] <marsflight> how to make default eth1 instead than eth0?  Thanks
[19:28] <oCean> dejan_: it is all there
[19:28] <edbian> stittel, Swap file is a swap filesystem on top of an (e.g. ext4 filesystem) so you have double filesystem calls which will be a very small decrease in performance which is not noticeable to the user.
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  you have us totally confused now...  You are runnign  some remote-desktop to watch a system install?
[19:28] <intrader> jack_^, how do I tell grub to load the working one by default?
[19:28] <kb_problem> marsflight: why do you want that?
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  the filesystem for a swap partitin is the 'swap' filesystem.
[19:29] <edbian> stittel, But if swap is bigger that doesn't make it take longer to get things in and out of swap.
[19:29] <jack_^> intrader, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[19:29] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis
[19:29] <asiekierka> nonono
[19:29] <stittel> edbian: Now if you have a moderate swap to RAM ratio, most stuff needed to travel up the memory hiearchy in the next time will be in the quite fast RAM and stuff unneeded for travelling up the hierachy will be in swap and hopefully when the stuff is needed from swap, it will be copied back to RAM in time.
[19:29] <asiekierka> it works like this
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  'mkswap /dev/sdxx'   its its own special filesystem.
[19:29] <mohamed> hey i format my lap now i want genral orders for ubuntu 10.10
[19:29] <asiekierka> i contact the computer owners via Skype
[19:29] <asiekierka> who pointed their netbook's webcam
[19:29] <asiekierka> to the notebook i'm trying to get Ubuntu running on
[19:29] <asiekierka> as the netbook has no CD/DVD drive
[19:29] <asiekierka> i can't do the sane thing, that is burn it on a disc
[19:29] <ZenT510> !enter | asiekierka
[19:29] <stittel> edbian: Now you have a big swap and stuff that is supposed to travel up the memory hiearchy comes directly from the very slow swap space. In that case your CPU needs to wait a long time for the necessary data to appear in its registers and the system becomes slow.
[19:30] <asiekierka> they're 500-600 kilometres away so i can't get it there either
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  so the question still remains.. what video chipset is the laptop using?
[19:30] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis hmm
[19:30] <quiescens> o.O
[19:30] <marsflight> how to make default eth1 instead than eth0?  Thanks
[19:30] <dejan_> uh there isn't aything about how to make swap partition :(
[19:30] <edbian> stittel, Everything will fit in ram if ram is big enough.  Nothing will change if swap size is changed
[19:30] <stittel> edbian: As I said: A bigger swap is not a problem as long as it is not really used. If you have 2 GiB of swap space or 4 GiB of swap space doesn't make a difference if you only really use 1 GiB of that swap space.
[19:30] <oCean> dejan_: YES
[19:30] <asiekierka> I seriously have no idea
[19:30] <kb_problem> marsflight: type /etc/network/interfaces
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  there is a 'nomodeset' option i have to use for my various nvidia chipset laptops to get them to boto properly
[19:30] <edbian> stittel, Just because swap is big does not mean that the kernel will take things out of ram.
[19:30] <kb_problem> marsflight: type cat /etc/network/interfaces
[19:30] <asiekierka> okay, i'll try that
[19:30] <oCean> dejan_: in the screenshot at step 5 and 6
[19:31] <stittel> edbian: However, if you have 1 GiB of RAM and 4 GiB of swap space and these 4 GiB of swap space are actually used, than it will become slow for the reasons I just explained to you.
[19:31] <dejan_> i am looking this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[19:31] <oCean> dejan_: WHY
[19:31] <guitar431> what is swapspace?
[19:31] <oCean> dejan_: I gave you de URL to install
[19:31] <dejan_> sec
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  during the bootup. theres a little man/logo at the bottom. hit the space key, to get to extra options, then under the F6 options, theres a nomodeset option.
[19:31] <oCean> dejan_: you REALLY don't want to listen, correct?
[19:31] <kb_problem> !swap | guitar431
[19:31] <quiescens> if 4gb if swap wants to be used and you only have 2gb it only faster because the system will be killing processes to make more memory available
[19:31] <guitar431> is swap space like this virtual memory stuff  on windows
[19:31] <stittel> edbian: Say you have 1 GiB of RAM and 4 GiB of swap space and 4.5 GiB of memory demand. What else should the kernel do but put 3.5 GiB of stuff in swap space?
[19:32] <edbian> stittel, The kernel does not put things in swap more often if swap is bigger.  It puts things in swap if there is no more room in ram.  Therefore you can have a swap that's 60Gb. The system won't be any slower.
[19:32] <quiescens> i don't know if that neccesarily means its better
[19:32] <Dr_Willis> guitar431:  done in a better way.. similer idea.
[19:32] <Pretto> hey guys, is there a way to change the gvfsd mount point?
[19:32] <guitar431> okay thanks guys
[19:32] <dejan_> oCean: there is only about to make partitions manually
[19:32] <dejan_> but how indeed to make partition maually
[19:32] <dejan_> i have 0 experience with it
[19:32] <dejan_> :
[19:32] <dejan_> :S
[19:32] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:32] <Dr_Willis> Pretto:  you could alwasys make a link to the location from somewhere else.. ie: link ~/GVFS to point to .gvfs
[19:32] <ZenT510> !gparted | dejan_
[19:32] <stittel> edbian: You are talking about situations with a low memory demand, which are pretty irrelevant here. If my memory remand is low, indeed 60 GiB of swapspace won't hurt me, but also they won't be of any use.
[19:32] <dejan_> n o no
[19:33] <dejan_> i will install from live cd
[19:33] <dejan_> i will format my hdd
[19:33] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis i'll try it, ugh, gotta modify UNetBootin files
[19:33] <oCean> dejan_: do you really want advice?
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> dejan_:  use gparted. or use the installers tools to make the partition.
[19:33] <dejan_> myake 1 partition for the os other for swap
[19:33] <oCean> dejan_: or are you messing with us??
[19:33] <dejan_> pls guide me
[19:33] <dejan_> :)
[19:33] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:33] <leg3nd> stittel, i think 60GB is a bit excessive lol
[19:33] <edbian> stittel, I think we just agreed.
[19:33] <oCean> dejan_: I send you the step-by-step guide
[19:33] <Pretto> Dr_Willis: the problem is that the mount point is only visible for the user session
[19:33] <dejan_> oCean: no..
[19:33] <stittel> edbian: I am talking about the case where that swap space is actually used, because you don't need a big swap space for cases in which it is not used.
[19:33] <oCean> dejan_: you don't want to follow? Then you are on your own
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  edit the syslinux.cfg file. add the 'nomodeset' option, and perhaps remove the 'quiet splash' options also.
[19:33] <dejan_> oCean: read what i wrote
[19:33] <dejan_> oCean: there is only about to make partitions manually
[19:33] <oCean> dejan_: no
[19:33] <dejan_> but how indeed to make partition maually
[19:33] <ZenT510> dejan_: you have been pointed to a guide several times
[19:33] <dejan_> i have 0 experience with it
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> Pretto:  if a user is not loggeed in.. that makes s3ence. since its a gnome type service.
[19:34] <dejan_> ..
[19:34] <oCean> dejan_: not true. Insert the install disk, and follow these steps
[19:34] <edbian> stittel, But if swap is big.  Meaning the swap partition is large and mostly empty)  There is no performance difference over when swap space is small (and mostly used)
[19:34] <leg3nd> dejan_, just use gparted, you can install it with 'sudo apt-get -y install gparted'
[19:34] <oCean> dejan_: and you WILL end up with an installed and configured filesystem including swap
[19:34] <stittel> edbian: The question is: What will happen if a high memory demand occurs: Will the system run out of total memory and say "out of memory" or will it actually excute what you are trying to do by using a big, big swap and becoming very, very slow.
[19:34] <dejan_> oCean: but dude, there says make partitions maually
[19:34] <dejan_> there is easy to make partition?
[19:34] <dejan_> oh
[19:34] <dejan_> omg
[19:34] <oCean> dejan_: ok, figure it out yourself, goodbye
[19:34] <Pretto> Dr_Willis: indeed, but if I started it without the gnome session?
[19:34] <dejan_> i know i will fail
[19:34] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:34] <edbian> stittel, read what I wrote right before you said that
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> dejan_: gparted lets you make partitions all the time..
[19:34] <stittel> edbian: Again: Why do you want to talk about having a big swap space in cases where the big swap space is not used, because memory demand is low?
[19:34] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis ok, i'll let you know
[19:34] <dejan_> but then i wouldnt have smuxi to conect here to ask you..
[19:34] <drc> dejan_: Can I PM you?
[19:35] <leg3nd> dejan_, gparted is pretty easy you should be fine, just be patient when its doing its thing.
[19:35] <dejan_> Dr_Willis: but i will reinstall os from live cd
[19:35] <dejan_> yes yes
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> Pretto:  that wouldent make sence..  since its a user specific service.. what are you trying to acomplixh exactly?
[19:35] <dejan_> drc:  yes pls
[19:35] <edbian> stittel, Because I thought your original argument was about a large swap partition decreases performance.
[19:35] <stittel> edbian: To talk about a swap space size making sense or not, we have to consider that the swap space in question IS actually needed because of the memory demand.
[19:35] <intrader> jack_^, I am unable to see how to set grub to default to 2.6.35-27 insted of 2.6.35-28. When I edit grub it only gives me 2.6.35-28 as the only entry.
[19:35] <nt23> hi guys i need some help with awk and append i wrote my code here if someone can help me i am grateful my code is here http://pastebin.com/PMgRw3mP
[19:35] <stittel> edbian: A bad swap-to-RAM ration WILL decrease the performance, if the memory demand makes the system actually use the big swap space.
[19:35] <Pretto> Dr_Willis: I want to use it instead of fstab entry
[19:35] <jack_^> intrader, add it
[19:36] <edbian> stittel, I agree with you.  As more swap is used performance decreases because the system has to move stuff in and out of ram.  The actual size of swap does not affect performance at all.  (unless you run out of swap space and ram)
[19:36] <tbws> erUSUL: thank you so much for your help, it's solved now
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> Pretto:  thats not really a good way to do it.  what are you mointing exactly?
[19:36] <stittel> edbian: A smaller swap space in such a situation will of course not make everything more happy, it will make the system say "out of memory".
[19:36] <erUSUL> tbws: no problem
[19:36] <edbian> stittel, No, the ratio of RAM to swap does not matter.  The size of RAM matters only.
[19:36] <intrader> jack_^, the grub menu already has it as the second entry
[19:36] <tbws> How would I go about instaling php 5.3.6 if it's not in the apt repository.
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> tbws:  ppa or source -
[19:37] <doodlenox> quick question - how do i send the video from laptop to tv in ubuntu - i have the svideo cable plugged in but not sure where to go to change the settings
[19:37] <leg3nd> tbws, google lol, you might be able to find a deb around. if not you gotta do it from source.
[19:37] <leg3nd> tbws, yea ppa might too
[19:37] <jack_^> intrader, if its not working on your newer kernel, then there is somethign wrong with the nvidia module. it either isn't loaded or nouveau is conflicting with it. if you just want to use the old kernel, you'll need to edit the grub configuration. i dont know anything about grub2 so you'll need to go through the documentation i linked and figure ito ut.
[19:37] <stittel> edbian: If the size of RAM matters for the swap space, we are talking about swap-to-RAM ratio. If we are not talking about that, for what do you think "RAM matters only" then?
[19:37] <Pretto> Dr_Willis: just an sftp, but need it to be accessible to other users once it's mounted despite the user who did it
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> doodlenox:  depends on yoru chipset. and if the laptop has special fn keys to toggle the tv out options.
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> Pretto:  the sshfs command sounds like what you need to use.
[19:38] <edbian> stittel, 4Gb of RAm and 50Mb of swap will be the same performance as 4Gb of ram and 100Gb of swap.  Different ratios, same performance.
[19:38] <Guest67182> kllkj
[19:38] <Pretto> Dr_Willis: thank you
[19:38] <doodlenox> Dr Willis: its a del inspiron and it used to work perfectly with windows
[19:38] <doodlenox> any ideas
[19:38] <intrader> jack_^, the problem started yesterday morning with an auto update.  The instructions for grub2 are confusing.
[19:38] <doodlenox> is there not a video/display settings area
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> doodlenox:  that dosent tell me what video chipset its using...  nvidia has the nvidia-config tools. ati has a similer tool. other chiopsets may just use syystem->admin-> monitors tool
[19:39] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis now i can see what's happening
[19:39] <asiekierka> ata1.00 exception, status: { DRDY ERR }
[19:39] <asiekierka> on the main drive of the notebook
[19:40] <hihihi100> the list of commands written in my terminal is gone, how do I get to see the list again? I mean, when I press the up arrow, no command appears
[19:40] <NCS_One> hi
[19:40] <edbian> stittel, Agreed?
[19:40] <Guest46552> places -> home folder opens kino
[19:40] <Guest46552> help! please.
[19:40] <stittel> edbian: No, not same performance. If in case of 4 GiB RAM and 50 MiB of swap, you have a memory demand of 50 GiB, the system will not decrease performance, it will say "out of memory" and not even try to do the task. In case of 100 GiB swap it will try to do the task, but at a totally terrible performance.
[19:41] <NCS_One> how can I preview the fonts that I have installed? I want to change my xterm font.
[19:41] <syrinx_> stittel: what the heck could you possibly doing that demands 50gb of memory?
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> if it gets to the console/login screen.  Yoi could see if you can mount the hd. or check 'dmesg' command to look for other error messages.
[19:41] <nt23> can sameone help me to fix my code http://pastebin.com/PMgRw3mP
[19:41] <stittel> syrinx_: Scientific calculations.
[19:41] <syrinx_> lol
[19:41] <stittel> syrinx_: It's just an example anyways.
[19:41] <extra11> you can't even get 50gigs of mem without getting something custom built
[19:41] <edbian> stittel, You count not doing the task as performant?
[19:42] <stittel> extra11: It is an example to illustrate the meaning of swap-to-RAM ratio.
[19:42] <extra11> or buying lott of cheap computers and building a distributed network
[19:42] <extra11> stittel ahh
[19:42] <stittel> edbian: The rest of the tasks will stay performant. :)
[19:42] <Dr_Willis> Guest46552:  read up at --> https://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2010/12/07/ubuntu-location-launchers-error-how-to-reset-gnome-panel-places-menu-launchers-to-open-with-nautilus/
[19:42] <edbian> stittel, Alright.  technicality win though...
[19:42] <doodlenox> dr willis: ATI Mobility RADEON 9000 is the name of the chipset on this laptop
[19:42] <doodlenox> any ideas on
[19:42] <doodlenox> that
[19:42] <Guest46552> thank you Dr_Willis
[19:42] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis the problem IS with the HDD
[19:42] <ibrahim> hi, i have a problem in sound , sound has vanished from my computer while nothiung was muted
[19:42] <asiekierka> maybe
[19:42] <stittel> edbian: The idea is this: Don't make your system try to handle tasks with a memory demand, that it is not efficiently able to handle by having too much swap space.
[19:42] <asiekierka> it has 2 partitions
[19:43] <asiekierka> one is Packard Bell rescue stuff
[19:43] <FloodBot3> asiekierka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <Dr_Willis> doodlenox:  thats a start at least. :)  You may need to run the 'addational drivers' tool to install the fglrx drivers to enable tv out. I dont use ati much. so not sure whats needed.
[19:43] <asiekierka> FloodBot3: I don't paste! I actually type that fast
[19:43] <Logan_> !enter | asiekierka
[19:43] <syrinx_> still flooding, keep it on one line
[19:43] <asiekierka> that's better. :P... anyway, Windows 7 doesn't install on the drive
[19:43] <intrader> jack_^, I changed -28 to -27 in what the new grub gave me and it booted. Restart gets me back to bad kernel
[19:43] <doodlenox> dr-willis : thank you.. i have just noticed that the screen is appearing on the tv now all of a sudden.. but its flickering constantly - any ideas
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> doodlenox:  check cable. check plug.
[19:44] <asiekierka> it's either silly OEM BIOS protection or HDD issues
[19:44] <ocean1> hi, I'm new to ubuntu. I've face a problem today! is there anybody to help me?
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> ive had way to many bad svideo cables/plugs
[19:44] <jumpyjester> hello everyone very new to this thought i would say hello
[19:44] <syrinx_> !ask | ocean1
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> doodlenox:  dont get ntsc/pal messed up.
[19:44] <asiekierka> ocean1 gogogo
[19:44] <edbian> stittel, I knew that :)
[19:44] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis found the issue
[19:44] <doodlenox> dr-willis.. how do i change that
[19:44] <asiekierka> after 2348348 tries of getting the ata drive to work
[19:45] <asiekierka> it just dies
[19:45] <jumpyjester> ocean1 what are you trying to do
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> doodlenox:  check teh monitors setting tool.  or the ati specific tool if using ati.
[19:45] <Wally> If I install ubuntu 11.04 a3  will I have to unistall it to install the beta or final release? or is it upgradable?
[19:45] <edbian> Wally, upgradable
[19:45] <Wally> thanks
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> Wally:  the abilituy to upgrade is core to apt system features. :)
[19:45] <Jaroslav> hi guys!
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> Wally:  but I tend to do a total clean isntall aftger i beta test...
[19:45] <Wally> I figured so, but wanted to make sure
[19:45] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis it crashed about a minute ago at: [  356.068458] ata1: EH complete
[19:46] <Wally> Ya.  I wanna do a clean install over my 10.04
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  coule be a flakey hard drive. Its hard to tell.
[19:46] <asiekierka> earlier it said something about SATA link and being configured for UDMA/100 and also
[19:46] <sysop3> hi
[19:46] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis that is the most likely reason
[19:46] <ZenT510> !11.04 | Wally
[19:46] <asiekierka> as i can't install Windows 7 on it due to a partition-related error
[19:46] <asiekierka> either
[19:46] <Jaroslav> I'm looking for a driver for Intel GMA 500....
[19:46] <sysop3> how can I turn all my fans on to max?
[19:46] <stillbourne> I'm trying to make a remastered livecd with a vanilla kernel so I can get support for some newer hardware. I've patched the kernel with union fs support and rebuilt the inird. When I boot to the new iso though it doesnt get past the initramfs. Anyone familiar with building livecds?
[19:46] <bbigras> What should I close a bug with if it's not happening anymore? invalid?
[19:46] <Dattebayo> how can i mount stuff with fuse?
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  for most machines these days.. i remvoe the windows HD and put in a dedicated linux only HD. :)
[19:46] <sysop3> dont care how loud it is. I just need more cooling
[19:46] <Guest46552> is there some way to replace the line "inode/directory=kino.desktop;" with "inode/directory=nautilus-folder-handler.desktop;" in the file `/.local//share/applications/ mimeapps.list without  without opening the file?
[19:46] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis > laptop
[19:46] <asiekierka> > the user wants windows
[19:46] <asiekierka> > doesn't trust linux
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  use teh proper fuse helper app. ie: 'fuseiso' or 'sshfs' or whatever spefcicl fuse fs you want to use.
[19:47] <leg3nd> sysop3, i think you need a fan controller, or mabey something with chronjob scripts (which i dont know)..
[19:47] <asiekierka> > well... my dad disapproves because he thinks linux is lolololshelllolololconsolelolololnerds
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  so....  this is related to ubuntu how exactly?
[19:47] <Jaroslav> Anybody could help me??
[19:47] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis in that i've been trying to boot Ubuntu to see what's the issue
[19:47] <asiekierka> ._.
[19:47] <sysop3> been looking at fantontrol but cant get it configured
[19:47] <syrinx_> le sigh
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:   there are special 'rescue'  distros that may bave more tools to help you fix things.
[19:47] <sysop3> dotn want it to change the speed just make it run at max
[19:47] <Guest46552> from the command line i'd like to do something like: echo "inode/directory=nautilus-folder-handler.desktop;" > ~/.local//share/applications/ mimeapps.lis but i know that would just add the line to the bottom
[19:47] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis i just need gparted and cfdisk, Ubuntu has both
[19:48] <Dattebayo> i dont quite get it :D
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  'system rescue' and 'gparted' live cd's are dedicated to that sort of task. would boot faster also.
[19:48] <asiekierka> Dr_Willis i'll try SystemRescueCD then, i guess
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  hit the fuse homepage. and read up on how it works.. what do you want to access?
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  suystem rescue cd./. is a
[19:48] <asiekierka> but as it's a more kernel/driver error i don't expect any success
[19:48] <hihihi100> the list of commands written in my terminal is gone, how do I get to see the list again? I mean, when I press the up arrow, no command appears
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> asiekierka:  suystem rescue cd./. is a  Must have in your toolbox. :)
[19:48] <ibrahim> hi, i have a problem in sound , sound has vanished from my computer while nothiung was muted
[19:49] <Dattebayo> there is .cue and bin file i dont want to write it i just want to run it
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> hihihi100:  thasts the historuy buffer.. if its gone.. i imagine its gone.. try 'cat .history'
[19:49] <Dattebayo> write means burn
[19:49] <NCS_One> how can I preview the fonts that I have installed? I want to change my xterm font.
[19:49] <doodlenox> dr willis got it working thanky uoiu
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  the fuseiso or fuseiso9660 commands i recall can use fuse. to mount  cue/bin files.
[19:50] <famthegeek2> how to install ubuntu 10.04 on a flash drive so that i can use it as a complete portable os?
[19:50] <stillbourne> I'm trying to make a remastered livecd with a vanilla kernel so I can get support for some newer hardware. I've patched the kernel with union fs support and rebuilt the inird. When I boot to the new iso though it doesnt get past the initramfs. Anyone familiar with building livecds?
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> famthegeek2:  you can make a 'live cd' with presistant save.. or do a normal install . to a flash drive.. You decide.
[19:50] <ZenT510> !usb | famthegeek
[19:50] <Pumpkin-> NCS_One: X itself comes with "xfontsel". It is pretty oldschool, but it might do the job.
[19:50] <Dattebayo> it show helps page do i have to use option such as -p or -n?
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  i imagien you need to give it the proepr options yes..
[19:51] <NCS_One> Pumpkin-: forgot about that one, thanks
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  -p makes/deletes the mountpoint as needed.
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> fuseiso -p foo.iso  MOUNTPOINT
[19:52] <hihihi100> dr_willis, it seems it is gone, "history" just shows 14 commands, not the 250 or so that should be there... any suggestion to recover them, if possible?
[19:52] <EmuAlert> When you already have a checkbox selected, how to do tick it on or off?
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> hihihi100:  not really.
[19:53] <Dattebayo> well it doesnt work with options im goin to install a visual program
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  whats the exact command you are using?
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  there are cue/bin -> iso converteres also.
[19:53] <mdkess> How can I show CPU usage in the panel in 11.04? I can't seem to right click on it or anything.
[19:53] <SwedeMike> mdkess: #ubuntu+1 for 11.04.
[19:53] <mdkess> Ah, cool
[19:54] <Dattebayo>  fuseiso -p  ~/Documents/Games/Burn.Zombie.Burn-TiNYiSO/t-bzb/t-bzb.bin  this is
[19:54] <terry> mdkess: top
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> mdkess:  seen this also -> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/system-monitor-indicator-puts-cpu-and.html
[19:54] <j5_> hi, is there a apt-get for firefox 4?
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  you gave it no mountpoint. from what i see,.
[19:55] <ebbe> My wireless connection keeps dropping. I'm using 10.04 and my Windows machine does not drop the same wireless router. Apparently my 'chipset' is BCM4312 and I've check that I have the proprietary driver for it. What could be going on?
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  cd to where its at.. so you dont ahve to use such a long path/name also.. may help.
[19:55] <Dattebayo> u mean i have to do it like this? fuse  -p  ~/path to the file  destination?
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo: fuseiso -p FILENAME  MOUNTPOINT
[19:56] <ibrahim> hi, i have a problem in sound , sound has vanished from my computer while nothiung was muted
[19:56] <ahmed_> r
[19:56] <AbTuX> I am using a package for some time for which .deb is not available so i had created one how can i submit it to main repository ?
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> Usage: fuseiso [-n] [-p] [-c <iocharset>] [-h] <isofs_image_file> <mount_point> [<FUSE library options>]
[19:57] <Dattebayo> fuse: mountpoint is not empty
[19:57] <Dattebayo> fuse: if you are sure this is safe, use the 'nonempty' mount option
[19:57] <Dattebayo> Can`t delete mount point: Directory not empty
[19:57] <ahmed_> Is It possible to run Windows Powershell on Ubuntu?
[19:57] <Dattebayo> error wiliams
[19:57] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  and what mountpoint did you use?
[19:57] <iceroot> ahmed_: maybe with wine
[19:57] <stillbourne> I'm trying to make a remastered livecd with a vanilla kernel so I can get support for some newer hardware. I've patched the kernel with union fs support and rebuilt the inird. When I boot to the new iso though it doesnt get past the initramfs. Anyone familiar with building livecds?
[19:57] <Dattebayo> /home/user
[19:57] <laseck> hej polaki
[19:58] <ahmed_> I have wine installed but how can i run powershell?
[19:58] <iceroot> ahmed_: but for what you need a "power" shell?
[19:58] <ZenT510> !pl | laseck
[19:58] <AbTuX> ahmed_, why you want powershell in Ubuntu as you have complete shell? Also with wine it have some issues not fully functional
[19:58] <silentz0r> hello, I damaged the partition table of a drive with just 1 NTFS partition on it. Any ideas how to fix that?
[19:58] <iceroot> ahmed_: copy the powershell.exe from your windows and run it with wine
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  you dont want the thing to mount OVER your home/user dir..  you want itt o show up in a dir IN /home/user
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> Dattebayo:  ie: /home/Yourusername/PICKANAME
[19:58] <Jasonn> How do i install KLIPS support on ubuntu server?
[19:59] <Dattebayo> tanx williams problem solved with FuriousISO :D
[19:59] <alabd> Good day all, Which package should be installed for installing qt4 ?
[19:59] <ahmed_> i am taking a course about powershell scripting i want to be run them un ubuntu instead virtualox
[19:59] <ZenT510> !server | Jasonn
[19:59] <AbTuX> I am using a package for some time for which .deb is not available so i had created one how can i submit it to main repository ?
[20:00] <BluesKaj> !Qt4
[20:00] <Jasonn> ZenT510: Its not a server problem, i am just saying that it is a problem, and i happen to be using server
[20:00] <BluesKaj> !info Qt4
[20:01] <BluesKaj> !qt
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> AbTuX:  you proberly want to just make a 'ppa' for the package.
[20:01] <Xubuntunoob> hey people
[20:01] <BluesKaj> alabd, ^
[20:01] <Xubuntunoob> i need some help
[20:01] <Xubuntunoob> can anyone make me a deb for powerpc ubuntu?
[20:01] <Xubuntunoob> of 0.8.9 gnash
[20:01] <Jasonn> no
[20:02] <Jasonn> Xubuntunoob: We are here to help you, not program your computer for you
[20:02] <ZenT510> !find klips | Jasonn
[20:03] <AbTuX> Dr_Willis, ok , let me try dont know about it.
[20:03] <Jasonn> ZenT510: Ok, I have openswan installed, but it said its missing KLIPS
[20:03] <Xubuntunoob> jasonn: can you tell how to build it ?
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> Ive totally given up on PPC linux - just to out of date.
[20:03] <Jasonn> Xubuntunoob: I have no idea
[20:03] <AbTuX> Dr_Willis, thanks
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> Xubuntunoob:  is there any gnash at all for ppc?
[20:04] <Xubuntunoob> yeah
[20:04] <Xubuntunoob> 0.8.8
[20:04] <Xubuntunoob> so is 0.8.9
[20:04] <alabd> BluesKaj: but i-humble want to install skype from repository and don't want install it from source
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> compile the patest then, using the build-dep option to pull in all needed dependencies.. perhaps.
[20:04] <Xubuntunoob> i have a question
[20:04] <gnugr> http://www.linoob.com/2011/03/ubuntu-11-04-community-default-wallpapers-revealed/
[20:04] <AbTuX> Xubuntunoob, if you want to create a deb for that , just google debian packaging
[20:05] <BluesKaj> !skype | alabd
[20:05] <Xubuntunoob> abtux: thankies ^_^
[20:05] <maxagaz> hi, when I click on my home folder in the men, it opens banshee,why ?
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> maxagaz:  you some how assoicated 'folders' with a differnt app.
[20:05] <Xubuntunoob> is it possible if you built skype from source, could you make it for powerpc??
[20:06] <Xubuntunoob> just wondering
[20:06] <suicidolt> how do I get a pdf reader that can edit pdfs for ubuntu?
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> maxagaz:  perhaps this site has a fix :  read up at --> https://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2010/12/07/ubuntu-location-launchers-error-how-to-reset-gnome-panel-places-menu-launchers-to-open-with-nautilus/
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> Xubuntunoob:  i dont think the skype source is available.
[20:07] <maxagaz> Dr_Willis, no, I never did that, it has been done automatically by some buggy application
[20:08] <Xubuntunoob> dr_willis: o
[20:10] <tbruff13> hello
[20:11] <alabd> BluesKaj: thanks
[20:11] <tbruff13> I have no sound out of my laptop speakers even though I turned up alsamixer can someone tell me what is going on please
[20:11] <BluesKaj> alabd, np
[20:11] <maxagaz> Dr_Willis, your link didn't help
[20:12] <Xubuntunoob> how do i build gnash from source??
[20:12] <maxagaz> Dr_Willis, because I don't have the option "open with" in the properties of a directory
[20:12] <ikonia> Xubuntunoob: you don't need to
[20:12] <metaljaz> tbruff13 do you have sound from headphones
[20:13] <maxagaz> I'll get rid of Banshee, it really sucks!
[20:13] <tbruff13> metaljaz, yes i do
[20:13] <Xubuntunoob> ikonia: i want to get a version that is not in the repos
[20:13] <ikonia> Xubuntunoob: gnash is inthe ubuntu software repository, just install it from the package manager
[20:13] <ikonia> Xubuntunoob: why ?
[20:13] <tbruff13> maxagaz, try VLC media player
[20:14] <gnugr> http://www.techhamlet.com/2011/03/a-night-at-the-hamlet/
[20:14] <maxagaz> tbruff13, vlc is nice to listen to one song, read a video, but not to manage your songs
[20:14] <ikonia> gnugr: any reason your posting that in an ubuntu support channel
[20:14] <nes_> sup
[20:14] <tbruff13> oh sorry I use it to manage my music sorry
[20:14] <germ86> hi
[20:14] <gnugr> is for ubuntu users
[20:15] <tbruff13> can someone tell me why i have no sound from my speakers
[20:15] <ikonia> gnugr: why ? it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[20:15] <Logan_> gnugr: No spam, please.
[20:15] <metaljaz> check private messages
[20:15] <ZenT510> maxagaz: if you want an alternative to banshee have you tried exaile?
[20:15] <Logan_> !pm | metaljaz
[20:15] <BluesKaj> nes_, supper isn't for another 3 hrs
[20:16] <maxagaz> ZenT510, no, does it manage video rss ?
[20:16] <ZenT510> maxagaz: not sure sorry
[20:16] <vince> Hello community :)
[20:17] <edbian> vince, hello
[20:18] <ZenT510> hi vince, anything you need help with?
[20:18] <maxagaz> ZenT510, I'll try amarok instead
[20:18] <vince> I'd like to list the content of a folder using "Tree". The thing is I'd like to list all the subdirectories without listing the files themselves
[20:18] <vince> I just don't know the command i'm supposed to use
[20:19] <vince> tree -d -L 1
[20:19] <vince> this one gives subfolders as well as files
[20:20] <Jasonn> How do i remove all packages I have installed?
[20:20] <Pumpkin-> vince: I'd use something like "find . -type d"
[20:20] <ZenT510> vince: do you need to use tree? can't you just cd to the directory and use dir
[20:21] <Danielcg25> Jasonn: Format the drive?
[20:21] <Danielcg25> (Ubuntu is technically a program, so =P)
[20:21] <giff> vince, I tried your command and it works like intended, no files are shown
[20:21] <vince> Well, I don't "need" to use tree, I could use that "ls" command, but I don't know how to list subfolders only
[20:21] <Jasonn> Danielcg25: No, only the ones *i* installed
[20:22] <Danielcg25> Hmm
[20:22] <Danielcg25> Apt-get remove <name of program>
[20:22] <vince> giff, Yes I know, no files are shown but I want tree to show subfolders
[20:23] <lament> i'm new to ubuntu, and i keep accidentally pressing some key combination that seemingly locks up the keyboard. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace still works but nothing else seems to. Anyone knows what it is?
[20:23] <giff> giff, it does, for me, just replace 1 with 2 or 3
[20:23] <wildc4rd> is there a good gmail notifier for Ubuntu?
[20:23] <vince> lament, are you using a laptop ?
[20:24] <lament> yes
[20:24] <lament> a macbook actually
[20:24] <vince> wildc4rd, I think gmail notifier does exist for ubuntu
[20:24] <vince> usb mouse?
[20:24] <sibbi3> list
[20:24] <lament> no mouse
[20:24] <giff> vince, it does, for me, just replace 1 with 2 or 3
[20:24] <lament> it's definitely the keyboard, i was just able to reproduces it by banging on function keys
[20:24] <lament> just not sure which ones
[20:25] <lament> not function, i mean modifier
[20:25] <vince> giff, that's exactly what I needed! Thank you very much!
[20:25] <sibbi3> ciao
[20:25] <MarkusT> I setup an LVM over RAID1 system and successfully debootstraped it. I am however unable to install grub2 (which doesn't seem to recognize both LVM and RAID). Did anyone successfully do this?
[20:25] <sibbi3> ma la lista dei server dove si trova
[20:25] <kos_> Hello, is it possible to repair corrupted partition table?
[20:26] <giff> !it | sibbi3
[20:26]  * license2grill is trying to resuscitate an old iMac
[20:26] <root__> How do I modify my script so it only greps the artist field and not the albumartist line?
[20:26] <root__> how to grep "artist" and "album" fields without grepping "albumartist" field
[20:26] <chairmao_> I have a samsung N130 running ubuntu 10.10 - i cannot for the life of me connect to the internet - anyone have any thoughts?
[20:26] <root__> [Amarok] [title: Magical Mystery Tour] [albumartist: The Beatlesartist: The Beatles] [album: Magical Mystery Tour [DESS MFSL-1-047]albumartist: The Beatles]
[20:26] <vince> giff!
[20:26] <root__> see it lists twice
[20:27] <giff> vince?
[20:27] <root__> how to fix it?
[20:27] <Ddorda> hey guys, i'm trying to install Hamachi2 on Ubuntu 10.10 without any success
[20:27] <Danielcg25> Hamachi?
[20:27] <vince> do you happen to know how to get a list.txt or something when using the command you gave me ?
[20:27] <Ddorda> when installing i get this error: logmein-hamachi depends on lsb
[20:27] <Ddorda> trying to install lsb give me error.
[20:28] <giff> vince, append this: > list.txt
[20:28] <sibbi3> list.txt
[20:28] <sibbi3> save list
[20:28] <Danielcg25> I hate that software.
[20:28] <sibbi3> help
[20:28] <Danielcg25> Somebody hacked my co
[20:28] <sibbi3> \help
[20:28] <sibbi3> -help
[20:28] <iceroot> Ddorda: post the complete output please to pastebin
[20:28] <FloodBot3> sibbi3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:28] <xerxes> hi pple
[20:28] <giff> Daniel0108, details/ot?
[20:28] <Danielcg25> computer via that software, haven't used it since :(
[20:28] <sibbi3> mi potresti solo dire dove trovare una guida per mirc
[20:29] <giff> !tell sibbi3 about it
[20:29] <Ddorda> iceroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/585965/
[20:29] <sibbi3> ok grazie
[20:29] <jnlsnl_> I have added a node to my panel content, can i tell it to not print any title for the node?
[20:29] <Jasonn> Is there a program to connect to VPNs better than the default one?
[20:29] <iceroot> Ddorda: sudo apt-get install lsb
[20:29] <Daniel0108> giff: I'm Daniel0108, lol :P
[20:30] <vince> giff, Thank you very much, made my day :)
[20:30] <giff> Daniel0108, sorry :(
[20:30] <rajvi> hello allany replacent of Ctrl+ALt+Del
[20:30] <Logan_> !vpn | Jasonn
[20:30] <Ddorda> iceroot:
[20:30] <Ddorda> http://paste.ubuntu.com/585966/
[20:30] <giff> you are welcome vince
[20:30] <BluesKaj> Ddorda, install lsb-core
[20:31] <Ddorda> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/585967/
[20:31] <kos_> Which program should I use to repair corrupted partition table (bad signature on dev/sda ) ?
[20:31] <giff> rajvi,dontzap?
[20:31] <ravidar> hi
[20:31] <Danielcg25> What is the repository for AirCrack?
[20:31] <rajvi> does lsb-core is important for running windows apllications also?
[20:31] <Danielcg25> (aircrack-ptw preferred)
[20:32] <oCean> !info aircrack-ng | Danielcg25
[20:32] <Ddorda> rajvi: no idea.
[20:32] <Danielcg25> Neighbor wants me to test they're network for security
[20:32] <ZenT510> rajvi: lsb is linux standard base, nothing to do with windows apps
[20:32] <chairmao_> best programme for ripping a dvd and storing the file as a .avi? thoughts?
[20:32] <rajvi> i know zen
[20:33] <Danielcg25> It's in the default sources?
[20:33] <Danielcg25> Thanks, oCean
[20:33] <sidd_mak> My Ubuntu 10.10 is suffering from many minor glitches and so i have finally decided to reinstall it ... is there any way to backup the names of all installed packages so that after fresh installation i just have to pass that list to packages in apt-get install command so i get my system with the same package as in the current one....??
[20:33] <BluesKaj> Ddorda, did you do , sudo apt-get -f install
[20:33] <giff> Danielcg25, what about !backtrack
[20:33] <Danielcg25> !info backtrack
[20:34] <giff> !backtrack
[20:34] <Amero> sidd_mak: dpkg --get-selections
[20:34] <oCean> giff what's your point
[20:34] <giff> oCean, he should use that instead, incuding their irc
[20:34] <rajvi> aany replacement for Ctrl+Alt+Del
[20:35] <giff> rajvi, dontzap
[20:35] <Ddorda> BluesKaj: no, since i'm not sure forcing it to install will do any good
[20:35] <Ddorda> brb anyway
[20:35] <sidd_mak> Amero : what does this command do ??
[20:35] <BluesKaj> Ddorda, it worked for me when I installed google earth
[20:36] <jnlsnl_> can one use tinymce in the panel add new content text area?
[20:36] <root__> [Amarok] [title: Blue Jay Way] [artist: The Beatles] [album: Magical Mystery Tour [DESS MFSL-1-047]albumartist: The Beatles]
[20:36] <Amero> sidd_mak: it will list out all packages installed on your ubuntu
[20:36] <rajvi> my fullscrenn apps ( Games are crashing some of them ) n I m hard shutting down ,, Can I get a combinations of hot keya
[20:37] <giff> rajvi, don't you see my replies?
[20:37] <giff> rajvi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap
[20:37] <oCean> giff: what does your reply mean?
[20:37] <oCean> giff: just saying "dontzap" is not very helpful, is it?
[20:37] <Danielcg25> giff: Why when I already have Ubuntu 10.10 installed?
[20:37] <tbruff13> hey metaljaz
[20:38] <sidd_mak> Amero : the thing is that ve can grep this output but the list will be output one package name per line
[20:38] <giff> giff, because it's easier? of course you can use ubuntu too
[20:38] <rajvi> i m sorry giff my english is bad misunderstood
[20:38] <oCean> Danielcg25: I don't see giff's advice making any sense. ubuntu 1010 is just fine
[20:38] <oCean> giff: don't talk nonsense
[20:38] <root__> [Amarok] [title: Your Mother Should Know] [artist: The Beatles] [album: Magical Mystery Tour [DESS MFSL-1-047]]
[20:38] <giff> oCean, it's the first google hit...
[20:38] <oCean> giff: don't give advice you don't know about
[20:39] <sidd_mak> Amero : is it possible to install all this packages  in one single command
[20:39] <tbruff13> metaljaz, hey are you here
[20:39] <giff> oCean, what do I not know?
[20:39] <Danielcg25> It is possible, I have Cydia (apt package manager) on my jailbroken iPod touch :)
[20:40] <Danielcg25> And I can make a que of packages to install at once
[20:40] <iceroot> Danielcg25: #apple #ipod
[20:41] <root__> W H A T   I S   T H E   R O O M   F O R   L I N U X   M I N T ?
[20:41] <ZenT510> !mint
[20:41] <oCean> root__: don't do that
[20:41] <edbian> How rude!
[20:41] <sidd_mak> Danielcg25 :  que of packages to install at once ...... HOW??
[20:41] <FullNudeDeGrippo> Five inches came and went, as did six.  Slowly, his hard-on got
[20:41] <FullNudeDeGrippo> thicker and longer as his tiny balls began to swell.  It was like watching
[20:41] <FullNudeDeGrippo> a long, thick balloon slowly fill.  The pressure was growing more and more
[20:41] <Logan_> !ops
[20:41] <FullNudeDeGrippo> intense as seven inches neared.  His balls were almost an inch and a half
[20:41] <FullNudeDeGrippo> across now as the pressure swelled and suddenly, released.
[20:41] <FloodBot3> FullNudeDeGrippo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:41] <root__> oCean:  S O R R Y   : , - (
[20:41] <FullNudeDeGrippo> 	With orgasmic shock, Curt watched himself spray an arc of cum
[20:42] <vince> Bye everybody
[20:43] <pizzas> later vince
[20:43] <searayman> anyoen know a channel i can get java programing help?
[20:43] <Logan_> searayman: ##java
[20:43] <kriume> how do i change username ????
[20:44] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for a application?
[20:44] <Logan_> kriume: on Ubuntu?
[20:44] <tbruff13> can anyone tell my why alsamixer puts my speaker setting a zero everytime i boot up ubuntu
[20:44] <kriume> yes Logan_
[20:44] <tbruff13>     
[20:44] <tbruff13> opps
[20:44] <mongy> tbruff13,  odd.  change it again and sudo alsactl store
[20:45] <tbruff13> well i already changed it when i started the computer like i always do
[20:45] <metaljaz> tbruff i had something for you to try
[20:45] <kriume> how do i change username ????
[20:45] <tbruff13> mongy, do i need to run that command now or reboot first
[20:45] <Logan_> !repeat | kriume
[20:45] <mongy> tbruff13, after you changed it.  it 'should' store it
[20:46] <Danielcg25> sidd_mak: I didn't say I knew how, I said it was possible ;)
[20:46] <mongy> tbruff13, then when you reboot it should use the stored values
[20:46] <metaljaz> tbruff what sound card is that?
[20:46] <terry> kriume: Log out and back in again as new user.
[20:47] <terry> krups: Do you have another user on your system yet? (Have you created one?
[20:47] <tbruff13> thanks mongy
[20:47] <giff> kriume, usermod -l newname oldname
[20:47] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for a application?
[20:48] <ayecee> del_diablo: how do you mean?
[20:48] <terry> kriume: Do you have another user on your system yet? (Have you created one?
[20:48] <incorrect> is there anyway to run unity without the silly side bar thingy
[20:48] <incorrect> i like the screen space i get from the window manager
[20:48] <Xubuntunoob> how do i format a usb drive on xubuntu?
[20:48] <xangua> incorrect: then it would not be unity :P
[20:48] <Logan_> !xubuntu | Xubuntunoob
[20:48] <del_diablo> ayecee: When scrolling in a browser using mousewheel the browser moves roughly 3 lines per scroll. I want to change the value for that.
[20:48] <fermulator> Anyone have any idea how "df" can show a filesystem (root) 100% used, while "du" shows only 50% used?  http://pastebin.com/e4amiVcU
[20:49] <incorrect> xangua, well i like the window manager
[20:49] <Xubuntunoob> im sorry i tried the xubuntu channel but no one answered
[20:49] <Logan_> Xubuntunoob: then please be patient
[20:49] <terry> Xubuntunoob: What filesystem do you want to use?  fat32?
[20:49] <incorrect> but the side bar is big and pointless
[20:49] <Logan_> Xubuntunoob: we do not support derivatives of Ubuntu in this channel
[20:49] <incorrect> id much rather use docky or something
[20:49] <Xubuntunoob> logan_: ok
[20:49] <mongy> incorrect, its resizable in natty.  but thats #ubuntu+1
[20:50] <Xubuntunoob> i want to format it in fat
[20:50] <giff> incorrect, it's a good idea for widescreen displays compared to the two panels of vanilla gnome, right now there is no way to disable it with any sort of option
[20:50] <drc> Xubuntunoob: Not sure now, but back when I ran XCFE I always installed the GNOME disk utility (in repos)...worked like a charm
[20:50] <del_diablo> Xubuntunoob: Gparted?
[20:50] <ayecee> del_diablo: nothing comes to mind, sorry
[20:50] <del_diablo> ayecee: K
[20:50] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for a application?
[20:50] <terry> Xubuntunoob: mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1  #Where /dev/sdb1 is the usb device.  Make sure which one it is first.
[20:51] <incorrect> mongy, yes but my netbook is not wide enough and the sidebar is taking up too much space
[20:51] <Xubuntunoob> i tried gparted but there is waaayyy to many options
[20:51] <incorrect> but i love the window manager
[20:51] <terry> Xubuntunoob: sudo fdisk -l    #Will list all driver partitions.
[20:51] <mongy> incorrect, you can select regular gnome at the login screen
[20:51] <nerdshell> del_diablo: clarify more please
[20:51] <ayecee> del_diablo: it would be better to mention the scroll wheel in the question.
[20:51] <del_diablo> Xubuntunoob: Sorry to say so, but there is not enough options in gparted. Take a good look at the GUI, then do what you want to do
[20:51] <terry> Xubuntunoob:  gparted is for partitioning.
[20:51] <mongy> incorrect, this is 10.10 netbook right?
[20:51] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[20:51] <incorrect> mongy, gnome takes up too much space at the top
[20:51] <marcuy> when I press "Places->Home" on the main Ubuntu menu, then Audacious opens instead of Nautilus.. any ideas?
[20:51] <Xubuntunoob> terry: oh
[20:51] <mongy> incorrect, so remove a panel
[20:52] <incorrect> mongy, yes on a netbook
[20:52] <mongy> incorrect, I use 10.10 regular on a dell mini9
[20:52] <incorrect> mongy, but the window manager doesn't become part of the top
[20:52] <drc> Xubuntunoob: Or you use startup disk creator, and bail out after "erase disk" (i.e NOT install anything)
[20:52] <Xubuntunoob> drc: ok '
[20:52] <mongy> incorrect, unity in natty is lot better, and usable on a 9" screen
[20:52] <Xubuntunoob> drc: i will try that
[20:53] <incorrect> mongy, maybe there is a backport of it?
[20:53] <fr00g> Can anyone tell me how to customize the Firefox button in Ubuntu?
[20:53] <mongy> incorrect, for now, choose classic desktop at the login screen, remove a panel and add your dock
[20:53] <nerdshell> del_diablo: check up here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[20:53] <rajvi> is  it ok to run Ubuntu 10.10 ona netbook
[20:53] <mongy> incorrect, not sure, Im just testing the alpha...
[20:53] <mongy> rajvi, yes
[20:53] <incorrect> mongy, that is what i had, but not so great
[20:53] <terry> rajvi: Well, sure.  Why not?
[20:53] <incorrect> isn't it 11.04 soon?
[20:54] <giff> fr00g, which button?
[20:54] <nerdshell> rajvi:  Of course, why not?
[20:54] <mongy> incorrect, yes.  natty
[20:54] <fermulator> fr00g: $HOME/.local/share/applications might be relevant for you
[20:54] <incorrect> can't be that unstable
[20:54] <terry> rajvi: Oh, you mean as opposed to remix?
[20:54] <intrader> jack_^,I get error in using the startupmanager 'Glib-GIO_Error: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.26.1/gio/gdbusconnection.c:2270:initable_init:assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error = NULL)
[20:54] <mongy> incorrect, for me its fine.
[20:54] <jack_^> intrader, in xorg.1.log?
[20:54] <Xubuntunoob> drc:    "package dependencies could not be resolved
[20:54] <incorrect> my netbook is not important to me, i can experiment
[20:54] <mongy> incorrect, but that coiuld change within a day...   #ubuntu+1 for more natty discussion
[20:54] <fr00g> giff, the menu button
[20:54] <Xubuntunoob> drc: usb-creator-gtk
[20:55] <fr00g> fermulator, I meant the menu button within the browser
[20:55] <del_diablo> nerdshell: Could you point me to the GUI instead?
[20:55] <rajvi> well i m a average newbie .. i install netbook book edition first didnot apealed me :)
[20:55] <intrader> jack_^, the last lines from executing startupmanager
[20:55] <drc> Xubuntunoob: Did you use the package manager?
[20:55] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[20:55] <Xubuntunoob> drc: used ubuntu software center, should i try synaptic?
[20:56] <terry> rajvi: Yea, well, it's ok to install the standard ubuntu on it.  In fact, it would be my preference.
[20:56] <terry> rajvi: ... but that's just me...
[20:56] <oCean> del_diablo: for firefox specific there is in about:config the mousewheel.withnokey.numlines parameter
[20:56] <rajvi> using ubuntu 10.10 ( Anyone using Quicken 2011 via WINE)
[20:56] <terry> Xubuntunoob: What exactly are you wanting to do?
[20:56] <rajvi> terry i know how to do that
[20:56] <fermulator> This is crazy; can anyone comment how/why this can happen? "sudo du -x -h --max-depth=0 /" -> says that 4.1G is used.  Yet, "sudo df -h /" --> says that 9.2G/9.3G is used... (/dev/sdm1             9.3G  9.2G     0 100% /)
[20:56] <giff> fr00g, system>preferences>mainmenu>internet>select firefox>properties>click on icon>select a different png
[20:56] <nerdshell> ravji : the netbook edition is just more economic, but standard release would be fine ;)
[20:56] <terry> rajvi: Very well.
[20:57] <del_diablo> oCean: Do not use firefox myself :( Using Opera(reallying on OS scroll options).
[20:57] <Xubuntunoob> terry: i need to format my usb drive]
[20:57] <fr00g> giff, no, I mean the menu button IN the browser
[20:57] <kriume> i am inside a folder wich has a makefile in it but when i type "make" in terminal i get ""make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."" why?
[20:57] <oCean> del_diablo: I don't think such is a "global" setting. But, not entirely sure
[20:57] <terry> Xubuntunoob: Just open a GUI terminal and use  mkfs.vfat
[20:57] <giff> fr00g, can you post a screenshot?
[20:57] <itaylor57> rajvi: gnucash is good
[20:57] <rajvi> terry is lsb-core is needed to run wine apllications more stably
[20:57] <Xubuntunoob> terry: ok
[20:57] <fermulator> fr00g: please take a screenshot, edit the photo, and circle/highlight the button you're referring to
[20:57] <rajvi> i work for quicken:)
[20:58] <del_diablo> oCean: Then where do Opera get its 3 line scroll from? O.o
[20:58] <terry> Xubuntunoob:  THey usually come formatted.  Do you just need to erase what's on it?  or...?
[20:58] <oCean> del_diablo: check opera's about:config ?
[20:58] <del_diablo> oCean: Yes.
[20:58] <terry> Xubuntunoob: At any rate mkfs.vfat will erase all data on it so...
[20:58] <glitchd> any clue why some of my hardware drivers wont install with linux kernel 2.6.38-1-generic??
[20:58] <del_diablo> oCean: Also known as "opera:config"
[21:00] <oCean> del_diablo: see if there is a parameter on the scrolling, is all I'm saying
[21:00] <terry> Xubuntunoob: I would  first do  sudo fdisk -l
[21:00] <giff> glitchd, because they only work with older kernels?
[21:00] <terry> Xubuntunoob: And look at what is there.
[21:00] <fermulator> fr00g: use "imageshack" to upload screenshot
[21:00] <rajvi> what u all have to say abou Firefox 4
[21:00] <fr00g> http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/9364/screenshot001mt.png
[21:00] <terry> rajvi: I'm not a big fan yet.
[21:00] <oCean> rajvi: this is support channel. Discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:00] <rajvi> i m in a fix chrome or firefox
[21:00] <del_diablo> oCean: I did.
[21:00] <nerdshell> rajvi: Great
[21:00] <giff> fr00g, that's FF4... install a different theme
[21:01] <famthegeek> ubuntu installed on flash drive!!!
[21:01] <Xubuntunoob> terry: all i see is the hard drive sectors
[21:01] <kriume> i am inside a folder wich has a makefile in it but when i type "make" in terminal i get ""make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."" why?
[21:01] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:01] <terry> Xubuntunoob: Yes, that is what you want to see - so that you can be sure you format the right partition.
[21:01] <giff> fr00g, you could also disable it and go back to the menubar layout
[21:01] <oCean> kriume: usually the compiling process starts out with a ./configure command.
[21:01] <terry> Xubuntunoob: Show us;  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[21:02] <terry> Xubuntunoob: What size is your flash drive?
[21:02] <giff> kriume, you first need to ./configure
[21:02] <kriume> oCean: what do u mean? i did ./configure first, and make after, but doesnt work
[21:02] <glitchd> giff, i jus updated to the kernel that i was asking about earlier
[21:02] <oCean> kriume: when installing software that is not from the repositories, you should ask the maintainers of that software for support
[21:03] <nerdshell> how do I make a script that requires high privileges autorun on startup ?
[21:03] <Xubuntunoob> terry: 2gb
[21:03] <terry> Xubuntunoob: Show us;  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[21:03] <oCean> !compiling > kriume
[21:03] <glitchd> giff, pm me please
[21:03] <giff> glitchd, yeah I remember, that's the problem with not sticking with the defaults :P what hardware is it?
[21:03] <Xubuntunoob> terry: ok
[21:03] <rajvi> can i get a app to make a copy i mean a installation to my installed Ubuntu 10.10
[21:03] <nerdshell> how do I make a script that requires high privileges autorun on startup ?
[21:03] <terry> Xubuntunoob: ... and paste resulting URL here.
[21:03] <Xubuntunoob> k
[21:03] <bastidrazor> nerdshell: add it to /etc/rc.local
[21:04] <JoFo> Hello. With Thunderbird, I've pressed the Delete key by mistake and I can't find the message back. Is that hopeless?
[21:04] <nerdshell> bastidrazor: I read that this was a verry bad idea, no?
[21:04] <bastidrazor> nerdshell: how is that bad?
[21:04] <bastidrazor> !boot
[21:04] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:04] <terry> nerdshell: You place it in /etc/init.d/  or just add the lines to /etc/rc.local if you like (little easier).
[21:04] <kriume> i am trying to isntall conky
[21:04] <kriume> oCean
[21:04] <tarvid> how do I get the properties of a audio CD?
[21:04] <ayecee> del_diablo: it seems to be specific to the application.
[21:05] <oCean> !info conky | kriume that is in the repositories
[21:05] <terry> tarvid: sudo fdisk -l
[21:05] <Xubuntunoob> terry: http://pastebin.com/7YSJjeq3
[21:05] <del_diablo> ayecee: That is silly. Why can't I get applications to just work?
[21:05] <nerdshell> terry: it's not dangerous to edit the init.d file ?
[21:06] <bastidrazor> nerdshell: read the factoid ubottu just put out.
[21:06] <ayecee> del_diablo: not all applications use the same method of interpreting scrolling events, apparently.
[21:06] <terry> Xubuntunoob: You must not have it plugged in right now. (The flash drive.)
[21:06] <nerdshell> bastidrazor:  factoid ubottu, what's that ?
[21:06] <bastidrazor> !boot | nerdshell
[21:07] <Pumpkin-> nerdshell: I wouldn't recommend editing anything in /etc/init.d/ (makes updates complicated), but creating new stuff, ideally based from /etc/init.d/skeleton is fine.
[21:07] <terry> nerdshell: It is a directory.  The startup scripts are kept there, (or symlinked there).
[21:07] <rajvi> any rooms to helpnewbies
[21:07] <Maryam> Hola gente linda
[21:07] <rajvi> :(
[21:08] <Xubuntunoob> terry: plugged it in
[21:08] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:08] <nerdshell> Pumpkin-: how to use the init.d skeleton to create my own stuff ?
[21:08] <glitchd> can anyone help me with these errors??.....http://pastie.org/1719491
[21:08] <Xubuntunoob> terry: and it still gives me the same message
[21:08] <terry> Xubuntunoob: Ok, now do it again.  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[21:08] <terry> Xubuntunoob: Then there must be something wrong with it.
[21:09] <guntbert> JoFo: my thunderbird has Edit/undo delete message ( <ctrl> z)
[21:09] <bastidrazor> nerdshell: that is a template to use for creating startup scripts.
[21:09] <nerdshell> bastidrazor: any useful Link ?
[21:09] <Nikofigo> [23:08] <Nikofigo> i imported 2 audio files in audacity (same window)
[21:09] <Nikofigo> [23:08] <Nikofigo> and i want to export them in a single mp3. how do i do that? (so mix them actually)
[21:10] <bastidrazor> nerdshell: look at the file.
[21:10] <nerdshell> bastidrazor: the file, wiche file ?
[21:10] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:10] <glitchd> Nikofigo, do u want one to play right after the first?
[21:10] <bastidrazor> nerdshell: or better yet.. add your script to /etc/rc.local   and be done with it. that is the proper place for startup scripts you create.
[21:11] <nerdshell> bastidrazor: okay, thanks a lot
[21:11] <Pumpkin-> nerdshell: if its JUST startup stuff, stick it in /etc/rc.local and be done with it. If its stuff that needs to startup and shutdown, then you need to worry about skeleton and proper process.
[21:11] <rajvi> any apps to create an image of my installed ubuntu
[21:11] <Xubuntunoob> terry: well when  i plug it in xubuntu Recognizes it
[21:11] <ayecee> del_diablo: it seems to be specific to the application.
[21:11] <Xubuntunoob> terry: but terminal doesnt
[21:11] <del_diablo> ayecee: And that is not a answer not a "good point on where to look for a solution".
[21:11] <del_diablo> *nor a
[21:12] <redboat> Does someon know where the iRC channel is for leo laportes TwitTV
[21:12] <ayecee> del_diablo: the answer is that there is no one place to set the number of lines scrolled for all applications.
 JoFo: my thunderbird has Edit/undo delete message ( <ctrl> z) ← But that seems limited to a fe steps, and I've made several (too many) operations since then.
[21:12] <terry> Xubuntunoob: Show us;  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit   #And past new URL here again.
[21:12] <Xubuntunoob> ok
[21:12] <ayecee> del_diablo: however, if you would like to change the setting for a specific application, it would be helpful to name the application.
[21:13] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell redboat about alis
[21:13] <drc> redboat: I told you earlier  http://irc.twit.tv/
[21:13] <del_diablo> ayecee: I already did. Opera. I also looked for it, it uses some system defaults. Where is those defaults?
[21:13] <JoFo> Where does a message go when I press Shift + Del?
[21:13] <ayecee> del_diablo: sorry, I missed that. it wasn't in your question.
[21:13] <redboat> thanks I am using xchat wheres the pm
[21:13] <tbruff13_> metaljaz, hello
[21:13] <Xubuntunoob> http://pastebin.com/Qv8CQeXs
[21:13] <tbruff13_> the alsamixer still keeps speaker on zero
[21:13] <Xubuntunoob> terry:http://pastebin.com/Qv8CQeXs
[21:13] <del_diablo> ayecee: Also gedit too
[21:14] <guntbert> JoFo: then I don't know, sorry
[21:14] <drc> redboat: or irc.twit.tv
[21:14] <ayecee> del_diablo: opera gets it from a system default? do you remember where you saw that?
[21:14] <terry> Xubuntunoob: Hummm.  You are right.  Your flash drive is not being recognized.  You'll not be able to format it.  BTW, what version have you installed?  10.10?  or...?
[21:15] <guntbert> JoFo: have you seen http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/  ?
[21:15] <Xubuntunoob> terry: maverick meerkat 10.10
[21:15] <del_diablo> ayecee: I do not, because I have not seen it. But on windows it fetches system defaults, and on Linux there is no settings for scrolling present anywhere, in both Opera:config and manually setting up mouse shortcuts....................
[21:16] <terry> Xubuntunoob: Well, sorry we can't help you.  There is either something wrong with your system or something wrong with  your flash drive.  (I think there is something wrong with your flash drive.)
[21:16] <root__> terry: where can I get this pastebin cli app?
[21:17] <photon> what's the easiest way to type IPA symbols without using the "character map" app?
[21:17] <terry> root__: apt-get will install it for you.
[21:17] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for a application when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:17] <terry> root__: apt-get install pastebinit
[21:17] <root__> terry: what's it called?
[21:17] <root__> ok, my distro doesn't have that app
[21:17] <terry> root__: What are you on?
[21:18] <kriume> i juust installed, how do i get the conky on desktop??
[21:18] <Logan_> terry: he is on Mint
[21:18] <Logan_> !mint | root__
[21:18] <terry> root__: You should install ubuntu.  Sorry ....
[21:18] <giff> redboat, /msg nickname message
[21:19] <terry> Announcement:  Ubuntu supported here    [only]
[21:19] <del_diablo> root__: Mint rolling edition?
[21:19] <Logan_> terry: we know
[21:20] <tbruff13_>  hey why does alsamixer start my speaker on 0 when i boot
[21:20] <redboat> Dick I made my own gadget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23363133/SkinnyLatteVer2_Complete.JPG
[21:20] <root__> del_diablo: I'm on gentoo
[21:20] <ayecee> del_diablo: you could perhaps add the applications you're asking about to your question.
[21:20] <terry> root__:  Linux mint support is on irc server irc.spotchat.org channel #linuxmint
[21:20] <newlin> bonjour
[21:20] <tbruff13_> mongy, your thing did nothing
[21:20] <Logan_> !fr | newlin
[21:20] <root__> terry: I'm on gentoo
[21:20] <root__> I found wgetpaste
[21:20] <root__> all is good
[21:20] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for OPERA when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:20] <terry> root__: /join #gentoo
[21:21] <root__> terry: o rry?
[21:21] <rajvi> i need a standlone download manger any suggestions ??
[21:21] <Boosted-> somebody good with grub?  got a slight problem...well more of a big one >_<
[21:21] <Logan_> del_diablo: irc.opera.com #opera
[21:21] <Logan_> del_diablo: for Opera support
[21:21] <root__> rajvi: jdownloader if your system can handle it
[21:21] <terry> rajvi: You might try wget
[21:21] <del_diablo> Logan_: Yes.......... now tell me where system default is set
[21:22] <root__> !grub > Boosted-
[21:22] <metaljaz> tbruff did you get working?
[21:22] <Logan_> del_diablo: or ##opera on Freenode
[21:22] <Logan_> del_diablo: please join one of those channels for more specific Opera support
[21:22] <rajvi> root_:hello mint guy please get out 4m here
[21:22] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for application when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:22] <xangua> rajvi: no need to be hostile
[21:22] <terry> rajvi: I use wget for large downloads, like ISOs etc.
[21:22] <kriume> i juust installed conky, how do i get the conky on desktop??
[21:22] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:22] <drc> del_diablo: AFAIK there is NOT one...write on that actually works and we'll all be happy (if only because it shuts you up)
[21:23] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for kate when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:23] <drc> del_diablo: AFAIK there is NOT one...write on that actually works and we'll all be happy (if only because it shuts you up)
[21:23] <xangua> kriume: there are lot of ways, i use 'conky colors'
[21:23] <rajvi> thanks dudes any front end 4 wget i heard its command base
[21:24] <terry> rajvi: No, but you can use it in a GUI terminal. It is very easy.
[21:24] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for kate when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:24] <rajvi> ya i know how to do that terry
[21:24] <tbruff13_> why is my alsamixer speaker all the way down when i start ubuntu
[21:24] <kriume> xangua: i just typed that and a black thing apeared on the desktop, i cant move it around or nothing??
[21:24] <mongy> tbruff13_, sorry, Im at a loss then.
[21:24] <bastidrazor> !patience | del_diablo
[21:25] <terry> rajvi: Just right-click a download link and choose "Copy link location", go to terminal and type:  wget  [and hit middle mouse button]
[21:25] <tbruff13_> k
[21:25] <drc> !repeat | del_diablo
[21:25] <nerdshell> !boot
[21:25] <xangua> kriume: google for conky colors to know how to use it, is not in repositories
[21:25] <terry> rajvi: See:  man wget   #For more details.  It is very powerful.
[21:25] <del_diablo> tbruff13_: Some bug about incorrect rights setting somewhere........ You could most likely find the "error log" if you knew where to look(no idea myself)
[21:25] <giff> rajvi, if you use firefox: http://domnit.org/blog/2007/09/wget.html
[21:26] <rajvi> Terry: On 10.10 via Wubia wanna make a customised copy of 10.10 with all my packages onit , u understand a installable disk with allmy packages
[21:26] <rajvi> thaks giff
[21:27] <Boosted-> root__ not a help for me...since im missing files
[21:27] <terry> rajvi: Oh ok.  Sorry.
[21:28] <photon> what's the easiest way to type IPA symbols without using the "character map" app?
[21:29] <Boosted-> missing at least menu.lst...or i dont know where to search or find it
[21:29] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:29] <rajvi> terry : its not possible , can i make a script so i don't have to installed each one individually??
[21:29] <vanillaslice> does anyonek now how i can install VirstualMin via apt-get ?
[21:30] <bastidrazor> !clone | rajvi
[21:30] <terry> rajvi: If you just have a list you can just do:  sudo apt-get pkg1 pkg2 pkg3 pkg4 etc. etc. etc.
[21:30] <agliodbs> hey, I have an ubuntu netbook with a 120GB HDD.  I want to transfer my whole installation to a 60GB SSD.  There is only around 30GB of data on the HDD.  what's the easiest way to do this?
[21:31] <del_diablo> agliodbs: cp -r / *hd location*, then run something related to upadting grub
[21:32] <agliodbs> del_diablo: that won't copy the boot sector though.  I want the SSD to be bootable ... I'm going  to take the HDD out of the netbook and swap them
[21:33] <nyuszika7h> Hello! Once I've installed "kubuntu-desktop" on Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx), and then later when I wanted to remove it, it also removed the entire GNOME environment! How is this possible?
[21:33] <kellnola_> agliodbs, rsync, and then you will need to install grub2 on the new disk
[21:33] <agliodbs> kellnola_: and gparted to format the SSD, presumably?
[21:34] <kellnola_> whatever tool you like
[21:34] <del_diablo> agliodbs: grub 1 or grub 2? I would recommend getting a rescue medium(live cd or live usb), and then running the cp command ,the plugin the HD correctly, then running live medium and following thisd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling from LiveCD
[21:34] <bastidrazor> del_diablo: that won't work.. more than just grub will be broken. fstab for example
[21:34] <blurymind> hi folks
[21:34] <kellnola_> del_diablo, yes on the live cd, but why cp? rsync is much better
[21:35] <blurymind> kmix seems to be acting strangely
[21:35] <blurymind> maverick here
[21:35] <del_diablo> kellnola_: Because rsync requires setup rsync or something? :P
[21:35] <agliodbs> del_diablo: rescue drive is a bit of a problem. no cd-rom, and installing rescuedisk to thumbdrives is kind of a PITA
[21:35] <del_diablo> bastidrazor: Just fstab. Fstab is easy to fix
[21:35] <blurymind> it eats up cpu and lags a lot when I scroll on it or click it
[21:35] <kellnola_> del_diablo, ? rsync -av /source /target <- that's all
[21:35] <agliodbs> I'm not that concerned about how to copy the files.  just how to make the SSD bootable
[21:36] <del_diablo> agliodbs: http://www.kvasir.no/alle?ezpz_hint_dummy_input=Skriv+inn+s%C3%B8keord&q=unetbootin ?
[21:36] <del_diablo> kellnola_: K
[21:36] <blurymind> deleting settings seems to fix it only temporarily
[21:36] <kellnola_> agliodbs, it would be much easier to do a clean install of ubuntu on the new disk then copy your data back over
[21:36] <old_keyboard> hello
[21:36] <old_keyboard> !botsnack
[21:36] <del_diablo> agliodbs: Quick question are the SSD located in your computer already?
[21:37] <agliodbs> kellnola_: except for a clean, install, I'd need to have a bootable thumbdrive
[21:37] <kellnola_> agliodbs, you can get a list of all the package selections you have with "dpkg --get-selections" , then merge that with the new installation
[21:37] <agliodbs> del_diablo: it's in an external USB case right now
[21:37] <gartral> Hello all, I have a CR-48 laptop and i installed ubuntu onto it, but it lacks a bunch of keys and i was hoping that someone could tell me how to make shortcut aliases for pgup, pgdn, end, home and caps lock
[21:38] <agliodbs> the issue with unetbootin is that it's *very* fussy about which USB keys it will accept
[21:38] <del_diablo> agliodbs: Hmmmm, reinstall would be cleaner. Do you know how to setup fstab and grub yourself? If you do, then just copying and fixing would be easier. But back to a question: What would you do after copying over to the SSD?
[21:38] <agliodbs> last time I ddid this I had to go through like 8 thumbdirves to find one whcih would work
[21:39] <del_diablo> agliodbs: unetbootin from windows or linux btw?
[21:39] <kellnola_> agliodbs, no dvd/cdrom drive?
[21:39] <agliodbs> del_diablo: after copying to the SSD, remove the HDD from the netbook, and then install the SSD
[21:39] <agliodbs> kellnola_: netbook
[21:39] <agliodbs> del_diablo: from linux.  I don't own a windows machine
[21:39] <kellnola_> hmm, I've never had issues with bootable thumb drives ...
[21:40] <agliodbs> kellnola_: if you go to the wiki, it warns you that only a minority of thumbdrives actually work and are bootable
[21:40] <agliodbs> which I found to be the case
[21:40] <Hodr> My Grub is broken, ubuntu server boots into shell, is there a noob friendly way to fix Grub?
[21:40] <kellnola_> guess I'm just lucky then
[21:40] <agliodbs> and I've lost the one I used last time ...
[21:41] <old_keyboard> Hodr: terminal is friendly you just need to read a bit
[21:41] <agliodbs> so if I can avoid the thumbdrive route, I'd like to
[21:41] <old_keyboard> Hodr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#METHOD%203%20-%20CHROOT
[21:41] <Hodr> thx
[21:41] <old_keyboard> is that what you want right?
[21:41] <agliodbs> I'd just do a DD copy, except that the HDD is bigger than the SSD
[21:41] <old_keyboard> just follow the instructions commands
[21:41] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:41] <agliodbs> so I have to resize at the same time
[21:42] <jwtiyar> i  cant connect to mu usb huawei modem , i have 10.4 LTS but its working in 10.10
[21:42] <Hodr> old_keyboard - will that work with server 10.10?
[21:43] <decksmasher> hi guys
[21:43] <agliodbs> anyway, I'm still trying to think of a way to do thsi which isn't a royal PITA, and I can't come up with one
[21:43] <Hodr> old_keyboard since server doesn't have live CD
[21:43] <old_keyboard> Hodr: is it 32 oe 64bit?
[21:43] <terry> del_diablo: Just roll the wheel until you get what you want.
[21:43] <Hodr> old_keyboard 32b
[21:43] <del_diablo> terry: What if I want 12 lines instead of 3? O.o
[21:43] <jwtiyar> i  cant connect to mu usb huawei modem , i have 10.4 LTS but its working in 10.10
[21:43] <Logan_> terry: I think that he is asking about the number of lines scrolled per notch
[21:43] <Logan_> !repeat | jwtiyar
[21:44] <old_keyboard> Hodr: yeah I dont if Ubuntu Server has livecd :P
[21:44] <old_keyboard> know
[21:44] <nyuszika7h> ubottu: +1 for AskUbuntu
[21:44] <jnlsnl_> when i add an existing node to my panel, can i choose to exclude the title ?
[21:45] <jnlsnl_> err mt
[21:45] <kriume> "Extract the downloaded archive (from step 3), use a terminal to navigate to the folder where you extracted it and run: make" <------- i did this but i get this after i write make: "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.""   why????
[21:46] <terry> del_diablo: I do not think gnome has a provision for that type of customization at this time.
[21:46] <ikonia> kriume: you need to be in the source dir
[21:46] <ikonia> kriume: what are you trying to build?
[21:46] <old_keyboard> Is there a way to show full path (/home/xxx) in "Select custom icon" window?
[21:46] <old_keyboard> like in Nautilus
[21:47] <kriume> ikonia: whats source dir? i try to install conky colors from this guide: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/conky-colors-makes-your-conky-beautiful.html
[21:47] <suicidolt> ok, I'm trying to set up a ubuntu usb so I can install it on my netbook and it's not working...unetboot isn't booting from the usb.  Is there a better alternative?
[21:47] <ikonia> kriume: is that package not in the repo ?
[21:48] <terry> del_diablo: PageDown or PageUp  is pretty handy, or just holding down the Down or Up arrows works nicely for faster scrolling.
[21:48] <em> what causes an Ubuntu kernel panic?
[21:48] <kriume> ikonia: what do u mean? inside conky folder where i navigated to after try to run "make" there is a makefile , but terminal says there is not
[21:48] <kellnola_> agliodbs, you will need some sort of live cd / usb drive type environment to boot into after you install the SSD.
[21:48] <kellnola_> agliodbs, unless you do everything perfectly
[21:48] <giff> em, bad hardware, driver, kernel bug and so on
[21:48] <kellnola_> em, bad hardware, bad software
[21:49] <del_diablo> terry: What is I want a spesific behavior that is useful? pg up and down can be 60-70 lines, to much, no flexibility at all....
[21:49] <giff> kriume, do you have build essentials installed?
[21:49] <agliodbs> kellnola_: yeah, I'd come to that conclusion.  hoping the verbatim thumbdrive I have will work
[21:49] <kriume> giff: i dont know
[21:49] <ikonia> !info conky-colors
[21:49] <ikonia> kriume: you need to be in the extracted directory of the file you've just downloaded
[21:49] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:50] <agliodbs> suicidolt: thumbdrive booting is very fussy.  it may be that you need a differnt brand of thumbdrive.  what have you tried up to this point?
[21:50] <giff> kriume, do this: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[21:50] <kriume> ikonia: i am... kristoffer@IMEDIA-4012:~/Nedlastinger/conky-1.8.1$
[21:50] <old_keyboard> Is there a way to show full path (/home/xxx) in "Select custom icon" for shortcuts window?
[21:50] <kriume> ok giff
[21:50] <intrader> jack_^,I get error in using the startupmanager 'Glib-GIO_Error: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.26.1/gio/gdbusconnection.c:2270:initable_init:assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error = NULL) - last lines from statupmanager output
[21:51] <kriume> giff i just did install it, and tried to run "make" again but still cant
[21:51] <ikonia> kriume: no, the conky-colors directory, not conky
[21:51] <E21> How do I get gecko-mediaplayer to work with Chromium?
[21:51] <terry> del_diablo: KDE has option to change number of lines per notch but I do not think gnome has such a configuration.  I may be wrong but don't think so. You might want to install KDE.
[21:51] <azm> Hello, how come that updates dont come with new version of firefox?
[21:52] <Logan_> !ff4 | azm
[21:52] <agliodbs> azm: 4.0 was released less than a week ago.  give us a break
[21:52] <kriume> ikonia: i dont know but i pressed that "Download Conky Colors" button from this website http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/conky-colors-makes-your-conky-beautiful.html and it was conky there
[21:52] <em> i dont want to hear that's bad hardware because this is my laptop
[21:52] <ikonia> kriume: in that directory is there a file called "Makefile"
[21:52] <zertyui> hello there
[21:52] <zertyui> unable to install postfix
[21:52] <azm> agliodbs, Im sorry but I would think that this is question of hours...
[21:52] <kriume> ikonia: but there is not working anyway?? i am inside this folder and try to "make" there is a makefile inside it but terminal cant find
[21:52] <zertyui> what's wrong ?
[21:53] <azm> Logan_, thank you
[21:53] <firevai> where would i go to ask about festival.. the text to speech app? i tried #festival, but there is no one in there.
[21:53] <Logan_> azm: you're welcome
[21:53] <zertyui> i got this error during the installation of postfix  : http://paste.ubuntu.com/585985/
[21:53] <ikonia> kriume: in the directory you are in is there a file called "Makefile"
[21:53] <kriume> ikonia: Yes there is 2 makefiles there one ".am" and ".in" files
[21:53] <piotr__> elo
[21:53] <ikonia> kriume: that is not a makefile
[21:53] <giff> kriume, gnome-look.org is down can't try it
[21:53] <ikonia> kriume: you need to contact the guide author, his instructions are not correct
[21:54] <giff> kriume, what about ./configure
[21:54] <old_keyboard> Is there a way to show full path in "Select custom icon" ? http://i56.tinypic.com/2vaehqu.png
[21:54] <kriume> giff: configure: error: Can't locate your X11 installation
[21:54] <del_diablo> terry: KDE is ugly and undermantained compared to GNOME....
[21:54] <azm> Logan_, why the development team just not include it instead using ppas for various software
[21:54] <azm> ?
[21:54] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:54] <kriume> giff: that was the last line i copied there
[21:54] <intrader> jack_^,would it be a problem to install libdesktop-agnostic-xfs-gio to get arround the startupmanager problem?
[21:54] <em> what's the name for the best color picker you can get in the repos?
[21:54] <kriume> giff: bunch of other text came too
[21:55] <giff> old_keyboard, try ctrl+L
[21:55] <giff> kriume, looks like a broke package to me
[21:55] <firevai> ok guess i'll ask in here then lol.. first of all .. hello to everyone... my question is... i'm trying to use festival with another chat program.. but have no idea where to look to try to get help.. i've googled my brains out, and find nothing.. i had it working a few years ago.. but cant remember how lol. can someone help?
[21:55] <giff> we can't look because the site is down
[21:55] <Pumpkin-> azm: It's because of the way Ubuntu is developed. It isn't a fluid "always up to date" distribution. It is a snapshot of a release date (with security+bugfixes only mostly).
[21:56] <old_keyboard> giff: nope, that only shows the bar
[21:56] <terry> del_diablo: Sorry, but I beg to differ:  KDE is a very powerful window manager. Gnome is too.  They are booth  well maintained.  It is just matter of preference.
[21:56] <del_diablo> terry: Powerful != good looking
[21:56] <firevai> i think it was a script i got from someone, or a plugin or something
[21:56] <firevai> more sure it was a script lol
[21:56] <kriume> giff: all i did was just move the folder from the "tar.bz2 file to my download directory, is that wrong? should i extract
[21:56] <gartral> Hello all, I have a CR-48 laptop and i installed ubuntu onto it, but it lacks a bunch of keys and i was hoping that someone could tell me how to make shortcut aliases for pgup, pgdn, end, home and caps lock
[21:56] <intrader> jack_^, are you around?
[21:57] <giff> old_keyboard, stupid gnome, I call a bug
[21:57] <aStewartS90> Anyone know anything about intel mac's on ubuntu?
[21:57] <firevai> i have the plugin for pidgin.. but its direct connect ++ i need festival to read lol
[21:57] <old_keyboard> :p
[21:57] <azm> Pumpkin-, is there a way to force the system to use some official bleeding edge mirror ?
[21:57] <giff> kriume, copy from the archive window? that extracts it
[21:58] <kriume> giff: yeah
[21:58] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[21:58] <kriume> giff: is there another way to install conky?
[21:58] <suicidolt> agliodbs: the same netbook booted fine to linux before with the exact same SD card
[21:58] <giff> gartral, there's a helpful thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10484321
[21:58] <raylee> hi
[21:58] <giff> !conky |kriume
[21:58] <mkanyicy> hi raylee
[21:58] <giff> !conky | kriume
[21:58] <raylee> sup
[21:58] <agliodbs> suicidolt: are you trying to boot from the hard disk, or fro a usb drive?
[21:58] <maxagaz> what should I use to record movement of mouse and keyboard to reproduce actions automatically ?
[21:59] <mkanyicy> raylee, how can we help you
[21:59] <kriume> giff: gnome-look seems to be down, ill try it lateer
[21:59] <raylee> has anyone had problems with flash
[21:59] <kermit> when i aptitude remove something, what is the {u} next to some of the package names?
[21:59] <raylee> on ubuntu
[21:59] <mkanyicy> raylee, it crashes, on firefox?
[21:59] <arand> !flash
[21:59] <giff> kriume, what about the one in the repo?
[21:59] <raylee> yes
[21:59] <raylee> on all browesrs
[21:59] <raylee> that i use
[22:00] <mkanyicy> raylee, i think that version has a problem
[22:00] <kriume> giff: whats repo?
[22:00] <raylee> i use ubuntu 9.10
[22:00] <giff> !repo | kriume
[22:00] <license2grill> Hi there
[22:00] <Pumpkin-> azm: you can always go play with narwhal. I'm not sure if Ubuntu has a "always track the bleeding edge" option like Debian has unstable or not. (someone else will know).
[22:01] <kriume> giff: i dont know
[22:01] <del_diablo> !patience | terry
[22:01] <mkanyicy> hi license2grill
[22:01] <wildc4rd> out of interest, I have a netbook on Maverick, hooked up to a 24 inch monitor, is there any way I can make firefox default to open on the big screen?
[22:01] <giff> have you tried it? install with sudo apt-get install conky
[22:01] <giff> kriume, ^
[22:01] <license2grill> Raylee, I saw a post on WebUpd8 about using chrome flash plugin in Firefox
[22:01] <fisch246> when referring to IP addresses and CIDR... if i say 192.168.0.0/16 is it just like me saying 192.168.0-255.0-255?
[22:01] <azm> Pumpkin-, ok, thanks for giving me smile on the first sentence.
[22:01] <kriume> giff: seems like i have to wait anyway because the gnome-look is down, and yeah i had downloaded conky and not conky colours i dont know how that happened
[22:02] <newbie01> Does anyone know a lyx channel
[22:03] <photon> what's the easiest way to type IPA symbols without using the "character map" app?
[22:03] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[22:03] <gartral> giff: i don't think those instructions are useful for me.. at least i don't understand the bindings.. it looks like those bindings are standard keys for the functions (like f11 is fullscreen but my keyboard only goes up too f10)
[22:03] <kriume> giff: yeah but i need conky colors! xD
[22:04] <giff> kriume, why? what's the difference?
[22:05] <kriume> giff: i dont know, but the commands i trying to do from this guide i cant because i dont have conky colors
[22:05] <giff> gartral, sorry i don't have a cr48 (envy)
[22:05] <giff> kriume, why not use plane conly and a guide for that?
[22:05] <newbie01> im looking for a document setting in lyx that puts a scientific article in 2 columns?
[22:05] <giff> kriume, see wiki here http://wiki.conky.be/index.php?title=FAQ and https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Conky
[22:06] <|Long|> when you install program what directory will be? /etc or /bin?
[22:06] <giff> kriume, plain*
[22:06] <Fuchs> |Long|: the binary itself will be in /bin, /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin  (should never be the case by apps out of an official package)
[22:07] <kriume> giff: i dont like the plane conky it was just black with white ugly and gets over my desktop icons
[22:07] <|Long|> Fuchs, thanks
[22:07] <Fuchs> |Long|: stetings, however, will go to /etc, things like pictures and sounds to share (or /usr/share), and libraries to /lib or /usr/lib.
[22:07] <suicidolt> agliodbs I'm trying to boot from a sd card, which is how I set up the computer I'm on right now with ubuntu, but I had to format the sd card
[22:07] <Fuchs> |Long|: you can use the command `whereis`  or `which` to locate a binary, and list files of a package with dpkg
[22:07] <giff> kriume, nothing you couldn't change
[22:07] <|Long|> alright cool Fuchs
[22:08] <del_diablo> How do I change number of lines scrolled for gedit when using the mousewheel to scroll?
[22:08] <kriume> giff: i dont know how
[22:08] <agliodbs> suicidolt: oh, I can't help with that.  I'm abut to do that for the first time
[22:08] <intrader> Anyone, I have used the startupmanager  to select the previous kernel - that works but now what happens ti the next update?
[22:08] <old_keyboard> Anyone knows if there is a way to show full path in "Select custom icon" ? http://i56.tinypic.com/2vaehqu.png (ctrl+l does nothing)
[22:08] <giff> kriume, see the conky wiki for more info
[22:08] <giff> del_diablo, learn vim or emacs dammit :P
[22:08] <suicidolt> I am having troublt installing linux, could anyone help me?  for some reason my computer is no longer booting from either my flash drive or my sd card
[22:09] <Secluded1> check your bios,
[22:09] <suicidolt> Secluded1: I did, it says it's booting from removable devices first
[22:10] <|Long|> Fuchs, i asked one guy i know not long over see my glftpd while i was on vacation..i dont know what kind of crypt script he installed on my system its hide all my hard drives
[22:10] <suicidolt> but then it opens windows
[22:10] <kriume> giff: doesent looks like it can do mutch just stuff like this http://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=36652 pretty ugly lol
[22:10] <Secluded1> what is the model/brand of your computer? some have a separate for drives first
[22:10] <suicidolt> asus 900hd
[22:11] <|Long|> Fuchs, can youi help me?
[22:11] <giff> kriume, you think so? I'd join the arch forum and get on this thread: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=39906&p=1 ;)
[22:11] <Fuchs> |Long|: probably not, since I don't know what or where he might have installed and how.
[22:12] <|Long|> Fuch, alright cool
[22:12] <Fuchs> |Long|: if he used the package management, which I doubt, then you can get a list of recently installed software. If he did it by hand, you have to look by yourself
[22:12] <|Long|> he did by dpkg
[22:12] <giff> kriume, when I think about it I'm pretty sure conky-colors is just a "skin" for vanilla conky
[22:12] <|Long|> i checked on history/logs
[22:13] <kriume> giff: ill chek it out
[22:13] <del_diablo> Where in the obscurity of xorg do I change a global value that controls how many lines a application scrolls?
[22:13] <cyryl> eeee
[22:13] <terry> |Long|: ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info/*list  #Will show the latest installed last
[22:14] <cyryl> what up?
[22:15] <|Long|> terry, i found it thanks, but what is the cmd to un-install it?
[22:15] <giff> del_diablo, I'm sure you already saw that (first hit on google) but: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=628725 also it doesn't work that's why you don't get any replies.
[22:16] <terry> |Long|: apt-get remove <pkg-name-here>
[22:16] <suicidolt> Secluded1: asus 900hd
[22:16] <the_core> hello can someone help me,I have ubuntu netbook installed on my lapyop,and I removed mutter..now I have no desktop but docky :S
[22:16] <kriume> giff: gnome-look.org is up again , ill try
[22:16] <Secluded1> ok
[22:16] <del_diablo> giff: thanks
[22:17] <del_diablo> giff: (do you have the xset version of that?)
[22:17] <guntbert> intrader: the worst that can happen is that you have to choose your preferred kernel once from the grub menu
[22:17] <terry> |Long|: or  dpkg -r <pkg-name-here>
[22:17] <giff> del_diablo, no sorry
[22:18] <terry> |Long|: Either should do fine for you.
[22:18] <intrader> Anyone, I have used the startupmanager  to select the previous kernel - that works, however started from the terminal gives and error in GLIB-GIO
[22:18] <|Long|> terry, let me try
[22:18] <alex88> hi guys, normally on netbook remix, how should i see network forlders and usb?
[22:19] <intrader> guntbert, ans what happens upon the auto-update? I think that the update has a problem with the new driver for nvidia.
[22:20] <giff> kriume, I can "make" must be on your end
[22:21] <giff> kriume, ls should read AUTHORS  ChangeLog  conkycolors  COPYING  fonts  Makefile  README  src if it doesn't you are in the wrong directory
[22:21] <guntbert> intrader: sorry, I didn't follow your problem, generally a new kernel doesn't replace the old one bit is added to the list - so you just select the old one again
[22:21] <oscar> hi all I can't see nor send webcam on amsn and the solutions posted on their site don't work any suggestions??
[22:21] <ct529> Hi!I need to draw the plan of a flat, with dimensions, and then do a 3D elevation. This time I would liket o do it on linux. Do you know of a package? I did some googliing but did not find an answer .... anyone with a clue?
[22:21] <kriume> giff: in this conky_colors folder i have no problems and here is makefile ok
[22:21] <kriume> :)
[22:22] <area51pilot> how do I repair a WUBI installation that wont boot
[22:22] <jrib> ct529: blender if you want 3d modelling software
[22:22] <slakc> DBAN'd (dodshort) two Maxtor 20GB IDE drives, have them setup on the same IDE cable in the 0 and 1 positions, ubuntu server 8.04 install disk is not detecting a loadable driver for them and asking me to choose, i have tried all the ide ones and the raid one as well, it is asking if I want to load one via fd0.. anyone?
[22:22] <slakc> I am shooting for software RAID 1
[22:23] <intrader> gunthert, thanks - let's wait and see. The startup manage has selected the kernel that works. 'The Newsr one" does not work because of a problem with nvidia
[22:23] <terry> slakc: fd0 is probably not going to do you any good.
[22:23] <suicidolt> what's an alternative to unetbootin
[22:24] <terry> slakc: You can't upgrade to newer version?
[22:24] <kriume> giff: i followed rest of the guide, but when i come to "make install" i cant install and i get error: ""mkdir: can not create directory "/ usr / share / fonts / TTF": Do not access
[22:24] <giff> kriume, you need to sudo  that
[22:24] <kriume> giff: sudo make install then?
[22:24] <giff> yes
[22:25] <alex88> hi guys, normally on netbook remix, how should i see network forlders and usb?
[22:25] <guntbert> intrader: be confident, there will be nothing that you cannot get around from the grub menu (do you see it every time you boot?)
[22:25] <slakc> terry: this is a new install and the installer is adking me to install the hard disk driver with a floppy disk to continue the installation and read/write to the disks
[22:26] <del_diablo> Does there exist a xset version of Option "VertScrollDelta" "6"?
[22:26] <intrader> gunthert, yes, but that is Ok since I changed the default
[22:26] <kriume> giff: ok everything went fine now, but when i start conky now i still have the old shitty conky look
[22:26] <guntbert> !tab | intrader :)
[22:27] <kermit> when i aptitude remove something, what is the {u} next to some of the package names?
[22:27] <guntbert> intrader: yes, I always want to see the grub menu
[22:27] <intrader> guntbert, does not work with charzilla
[22:27] <kriume> giff: i did everything right from this guide http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/conky-colors-makes-your-conky-beautiful.html
[22:27] <intrader> guntbert, chatzilla I meant
[22:28] <guntbert> intrader: it certainly does, but it is no real problem either :)
[22:29] <johnny77> How do I remove a image from my grub menu? My /etc/default/grub file does not specify a background, but one appears.
[22:29] <giff> kriume, did you start conky or conky-colors?
[22:29] <intrader> guntbert: yes it does but there must be more than one gun... Thanks
[22:29] <kriume> giff: conky, like it says in the guide
[22:29] <guntbert> intrader: then press <tab> several times :-)
[22:29] <giff> kriume, what about step 4 b?
[22:30] <prappl93> How do I sync music to my iPod Touch 4th Generation with iOS4.3?
[22:30] <intrader> guntbert: yes, thanks
[22:30] <guntbert> intrader: :)
[22:30] <kriume> giff: i dident do that one yet, because it doesent seem to work anyway :S
[22:30] <giff> kriume, then there is an error somewhere above
[22:30] <kriume> giff: u think it will work if i do that?
[22:31] <abdi> I'm sorry I is disturbing but not available here German-language chat
[22:31] <kriume> giff: meaybe restart, or try to reinstall ?
[22:31] <ijfisdjfioj> Hey
[22:31] <ijfisdjfioj> I'm looking for help running Oblivion on Ubuntu 10.10
[22:31] <giff> kriume, log out should suffice but I doubt it's that, you really should be able to start the conky you just compiled in your home
[22:32] <umbunt> people ubuntu didnt make the 10.04 64bit upgrade easy for me let me tell you.
[22:32] <giff> kriume, killall conky
[22:32] <kriume> giff: i did that too
[22:32] <jrib> umbunt: hmm?  Do you have a support question? :)
[22:32] <kriume> giff: and tried to restart conky again, many times
[22:33] <umbunt> i think i got it all figured but thanks.
[22:33] <jrib> umbunt: ok, keep in mind this channel is for support
[22:33] <kriume> giff: but ill try to killall conky now and try to reistall from the conky colors
[22:33] <umbunt> be on standby
[22:33] <umbunt> i know im listening
[22:33] <guntbert> !de | abdi
[22:33] <rony> hi
[22:34] <cha0s2358> how do I upgrade my firefox version via terminal so as to not lose all my bookmarks and such
[22:34] <jrib> cha0s2358: update-manager handles upgrading of packages.  What do you want to accomplish exactly?
[22:35] <abhishek> hi
[22:35] <cha0s2358> jrib i tried update manager but it didn't install the new firefox 4 i'm still running version 3.6.16
[22:35] <jrib> !firefox4 | cha0s2358
[22:36] <cha0s2358> jrib thank you
[22:36] <umbunt> this is not a support question but why is 64 bit so much more buggy than 32 bit?
[22:36] <jrib> umbunt: how is it more buggy?
[22:36] <red> i've had no probs with 64bit
[22:36] <umbunt> it seems tempermental to me
[22:37] <jbatista> !latest
[22:37] <jrib> ubottu: too vague
[22:37] <jrib> umbunt: too vague
[22:37] <jbatista> !backports
[22:37] <kriume> giff: i tried to relog user  and its still not working, i know i installed conky colors right and all.... do u have any idea about why its not working?
[22:37] <umbunt> it doesnt like stuff
[22:37] <LjL> jrib: no criticizing ubottu
[22:37] <license2grill> I'm running Maverick 64Bit no prob on my XPS 16
[22:37] <jbatista> !packaging
[22:37] <jrib> LjL: ubottu knows I only tease him playfully!
[22:37] <jbatista> !sru
[22:38] <jbatista> !ubottu
[22:38] <ijfisdjfioj> err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x137bdbf4 "dsoundrender.c: DSoundRenderImpl.csFilter" wait timed out in thread 001d, blocked by 0025, retrying (60 sec)
[22:38] <ijfisdjfioj> That's my problem
[22:38] <umbunt> but its working now so good
[22:38] <ijfisdjfioj> It's the output of wine while trying to start a new Oblivion game
[22:39] <del_diablo> Does there exist a xset version of Option "VertScrollDelta" "6"?
[22:39] <James1293> Hey everyone! My HDD with ubuntu on it is really small, and I'm trying to move some of the stuff to my external harddrive. Can I safely use this guide http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/ to move folders other than the home folder to the external hard drive?
[22:39] <ChrisBuchholz> Hey guys. I am looking for a good screen recorder (with gui) for ubuntu. Can you guys recommend any? I have tried tibesti and kazam, neither worked for me properly
[22:39] <_numbers> i just installed ubuntu 10.10 and did updates. then i rebooted it was fine. i installed some more software. now when i reboot i am stuck in a memtest loop
[22:39] <_numbers> memtest completes 100% successful, machine reboots, memtest begins again
[22:40] <_numbers> i dont even see the grub menu to choose ubuntu
[22:40] <_numbers> any ideas?
[22:40] <old_keyboard> If I change /etc/motd does it update the system info after a kernel update?
[22:40] <ct529> jrib: mmmm .... I need real dimensions to give to the builder
[22:40] <ct529> jrib: so blender does not seem to be an option
[22:40] <abhishek> old_keyboard ya
[22:41] <umbunt> i was just making the point that you seem to have less functionality with 64bit in my oppinion , but i dont really know anything so boooo
[22:41] <jrib> ct529: if you know of a windows option you might try searching specifically for a linux alternative to that option
[22:41] <jbatista> ChrisBuchholz on the console do apt-cache search record | grep screen
[22:41] <old_keyboard> abhishek: so I need to change it everytime kernel updates?
[22:41] <ct529> jrib: like autocad?
[22:41] <abhishek> no nt really
[22:41] <license2grill> James1293: stuff like that is never "safe". Back up your files, because if you do this there is always a chance you break something
[22:41] <del_diablo> James1293: You still need to do some arcane wizardry with fstab and grub....
[22:41] <jbatista> ChrisBuchholz you have gtk-recordmydesktop which looks promissing
[22:42] <old_keyboard> abhishek: do you know what im talking about?
[22:42] <jrib> ct529: google points out qcad, try that
[22:42] <giff> kriume, ok so you run conky-colors with the options you want eg: conky-colors --theme=gnome-noble --lang=pt --cpu=4 --network --hd=default --pidgin then you run: conky -c /home/kriume/.conkycolors/conkyrc
[22:42] <old_keyboard> abhishek: if you dont know stop "helping"  >  " This will work for now, but on reboot the file is reconstructed by the /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh script. It writes out "uname -snrvm" to /var/run/motd (/etc/motd is a symbolic link to /var/run/motd) and then adds the text from /etc/motd.tail"
[22:43] <umbunt> is the 64 bit version safer from viruses/malware?
[22:43] <old_keyboard> no it's same as 32
[22:43] <James1293> license2grill, del_diablo: would it be safer to move the entire installation to another partition, or more problematic?
[22:43] <old_keyboard> no virus.
[22:44] <boone> can someone please help me with a game installation?
[22:44] <kriume> giff: that just opened the default black and white conky
[22:44] <old_keyboard> umbunt: use 64bit if you have more than 3.2 GB of RAM
[22:44] <jrib> old_keyboard: have you read « man update-motd »? I think that's standard on ubuntu nowadays
[22:44] <edbian> umbunt, No.  But 32 bit is still remarkably safe compared to windows
[22:44] <old_keyboard> jrib: ty
[22:44] <del_diablo> James1293: Equally problematic and safe. I recommend to run cp -r / *externla hd* and then fixing up fstab and grub,
[22:44] <umbunt> just wondering
[22:44] <edbian> umbunt, :)
[22:44] <the_core> terry,you got a minute?
[22:45] <giff> kriume, you may need to adapt the thing after -c so it actually points to the correct file, running conky-colors gives you the path anyway ;)
[22:45] <umbunt> 3.2 g huh wow im not even close
[22:45] <ct529> jrib: not really, qcad is 2D only
[22:45] <suicidolt> I work a lot with pdf character sheet with editable fields...is there any pdf viewer that can allow me to use those fields? so far I haven't found one
[22:45] <kriume> giff : i want to uinsall conky and reinsatall, how do i completly remove it?
[22:45] <del_diablo> James1293: Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling from LiveCD and this one: http://www.dreamincode.net/forums/topic/40971-how-to-setup-manage-your-fstab-for-auto-mounting/
[22:45] <packerboy256> boone: what game?  have you tried wine?
[22:45] <giff> kriume, why do you want to do that?
[22:45] <edbian> umbunt, Yeah, that's the main advantage of 64bit OS / hardware
[22:45] <old_keyboard> jrib: On Ubuntu systems, /etc/motd is typically a symbolic link to /var/run/motd.
[22:45] <boone> I managed to install - Lord of the Rings Online game - However, it will not play
[22:45] <edbian> kriume, sudo apt-get purge conky
[22:45] <kriume> giff: because i think something is wrong
[22:46] <edbian> kriume, And it's probably safe to remove the hidden .conky folder in your home as well
[22:46] <packerboy256> boone: what does it do when you try to play?
[22:46] <del_diablo> James1293: And this one http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html too
[22:46] <giff> kriume, I think it works as intended... can you post the output of the conky-color command to a pastbin?
[22:46] <boone> It starts to load then just quits
[22:46] <kriume> giff: conky-color: command not found
[22:47] <kriume> edbian: what does that command do?
[22:47] <license2grill> James1293: I would recommend, if possible for you, to do a fresh installation and partition your system to your liking that way. When you are don, just copy your files where you want them. It's the easyer, safer way to go.
[22:47] <the_core> hello can someone help me,I have ubuntu netbook installed on my laptop,and I removed mutter..now I have no desktop but docky :S
[22:47] <giff> kriume, what? did you sudo make install it?
[22:47] <kriume> giff: that what edbian said? no
[22:47] <del_diablo> Does there exist a xset version of Option "VertScrollDelta" "6"?
[22:47] <edbian> kriume, purge (as opposed to remove) removes all the files placed by the installer instead of just most of them.  In particular /etc/* files which are config files
[22:47] <giff> kriume, ediban's command it will remove conky, mine installs conky-color
[22:48] <edbian> giff, I said apt-get purge instead of apt-get remove
[22:48] <giff> kriume, use mine...
[22:48] <SightUp> i am doing updates using the update manager, a lot of them are failing. why?
[22:48] <kriume> giff: wich one?
[22:48] <kriume> giff: wich command
[22:48] <umbunt> im running a 2 inch laptop drive with cheap addapter,2 maxtors set up for raid1 i, 2 512 kingstons RAM, ASUS k8-se,and a 512 radeon, and it seems to work oK.
[22:48] <edbian> kriume, giff Are why trying to remove conky or not?
[22:48] <giff> kriume, sudo make install
[22:48] <packerboy256> boone: you're using wine, right?
[22:48] <giff> edbian, no, we are trying to fix conky...
[22:48] <boone> Can this game be played on Ubuntu 10.10?
[22:49] <kriume> edbian: i am still trying to get it to work, it i will fail many times more i will remove it later and try to reinstall it, but not yet
[22:49] <giff> edbian, kriume thought deinstalling would somehow help to fix it
[22:49] <boone> yes I am using wine
[22:49] <edbian> giff, Oops!  sorry
[22:49] <edbian> kriume, I was only telling how to remove it.  I did not know the bigger goal.
[22:50] <packerboy256> boone: should be able to, according to this http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=4891
[22:50] <theseb> help! *where* postfix puts errors? i can't find the log
[22:50] <packerboy256> strange
[22:50] <kriume> giff: sudo make install what? i have installed conky colors already
[22:50] <edbian> brb
[22:50] <kriume> edbian: thanks
[22:50] <boone> However, I do not know if I have anything setup right - very new to this OS
[22:50] <giff> kriume, I was just asking if you had; but why can't you execute it then?
[22:50] <del_diablo> Does there exist a xset version of Option "VertScrollDelta" "6"?
[22:51] <giff> kriume, in the conky-clolors folder execute ./conky-colors
[22:51] <kriume> giff: i just ran the command again and it came output textm wait a sec and ill upload it
[22:51] <giff> kriume, help text I assume, then: ./conky-colors --theme=gnome-noble --lang=pt --cpu=4 --network --hd=default --pidgin
[22:52] <kriume> giff: http://www.heypasteit.com/clip/VBR
[22:52] <kriume> ok
[22:52] <giff> kriume, very good, so it works :D
[22:52] <boone> Thank you for the link - I will see what I can find there
[22:52] <the_core> hello can someone help me,I have ubuntu netbook installed on my laptop,and I removed mutter..now I have no desktop but docky :S
[22:53] <old_keyboard> !botsnack
[22:53] <kriume> giff: but ./confy-colors dont work says No such file or filecataloge
[22:53] <giff> kriume, you mistyped it ;) conFy
[22:54] <xlogik> the_core: have you tried to reinstall?
[22:54] <the_core> xlogik: I am new to this,not sure what to do
[22:54] <kriume> giff: conky-colors doent work too
[22:54] <Felixia> Amaze
[22:54] <umbunt> if you have a 2 in laptop drive that spins at 4300 rpm does that equal about the same speed as a 3.5 that spins at 7200 rpm?
[22:54] <kriume> giff: i misstyped it here on irc, not in the terminal
[22:55] <Felixia> Åñòü ðóññêèå?
[22:55] <BentFranklin> Anyone know a command-line program that will read in an mp3 and write the beats per minute to stdout?
[22:55] <edbian> umbunt, No.  Because reading the data off the hdd still has a static speed.  If you striped (via a raid) it would be.
[22:55] <giff> kriume, "./conky-colors" followed by all the options
[22:55] <edbian> umbunt, *it would be faster.  But probably not 4300 + 4300 faster.
[22:55] <giff> kriume, just copy/paste what I wrote
[22:55] <old_keyboard> Felixia: country?
[22:55] <unknownbit> hi im new in this ubuntu thing, is it good idea to install ubuntu on SSD?
[22:55] <xlogik> the_core: goto the ubuntu  software Center and search for docky
[22:55] <umbunt> i see
[22:55] <edbian> unknownbit, Sure.  I don't see why not.
[22:55] <old_keyboard> unknownbit: you can install any OS
[22:55] <old_keyboard> lol.
[22:56] <kriume> giff: i only get bash: ./conky-colors: Ingen slik fil eller filkatalog
[22:56] <Felixia> Russia
[22:56] <unknownbit> ext3 or ext4?
[22:56] <old_keyboard> !ru | Felixia
[22:56] <kriume> giff: no such file or filecataloge
[22:56] <eth00> umbunt also if you do something like RAID0 consider that either one failing will cause everything to be lost
[22:56] <edbian> unknownbit, ext4 but that's not because you're using a SSD
[22:56] <giff> kriume, wrong dir? pwd
[22:56] <giff> kriume, I mean it just worked...
[22:56] <the_core> xlogik: docky is working,but nothing else on my desktop is,no netbook dock or taskbar
[22:57] <unknownbit> thx
[22:57] <xlogik> the_core: or get to the commandline and type "sudo apt-get install docky"
[22:57] <kriume> giff: the command "conky-colors" worked but not with ./ in front
[22:57] <xlogik> ok
[22:57] <unknownbit> ext3 doesnt have TRIM right?
[22:57] <giff> kriume, good, then try the whole thing (options) and paste it
[22:58] <kriume> giff: without ./ in front then?
[22:58] <the_core> xlogik: is there a way to restore back to the settings I had yesterday?
[22:58] <spid3rnet> how now somthing aboute pentration testing to have a web_shell via 3306 port "mysql"
[22:58] <giff> kriume, yes
[22:58] <umbunt> well if it spins at 4300 rpm than it doesnt spin faster than that but does it have the same performance charicteristics of a 3.5 that spins at 7200 rpm
[22:59] <lefty_ally> OKAY QUICK QUESTION
[22:59] <umbunt> since its smaller
[22:59] <del_diablo> Does there exist a xset version of Option "VertScrollDelta" "6"?
[22:59] <lefty_ally> HOW DO I GET WIFI WORKING
[22:59] <lefty_ally> ????
[22:59] <giff> kriume, update: I think I solved the whole problem: conky-colors --lang=english --theme=ambiance --cpu=2 --cputemp --swap --updates --hdtemp1=sda --proc=3 --clock=modern --nvidia --calendar --network --rhythmbox=case --ubuntu
[23:00] <RubenAlonzo> greetings everyone.
[23:00] <giff> kriume, just have a look at the last two lines, they should say: To run conky-colors and conky type: conky -c /home/...
[23:00] <edbian> umbunt: Striping definitely has a performance increase, that's the point of it.  Weather it's drive1 + drive2 or now I don't know.  Seems unlikely to me that it is though.  There is probably some overhead.
[23:00] <ayecee> del_diablo: not according to the manpage, i'm afraid.
[23:01] <giff> kriume, execute that and you got yourself a working conky-colors
[23:01] <umbunt> no
[23:01] <edbian> umbunt: All I can say for sure is that the performance while striping is at least the speed of the slowest drive but not more than the combined speeds of both drives
[23:01] <kriume> giff: it worked without ./ in front but look at this http://www.heypasteit.com/clip/VBU
[23:01] <xlogik> the_core: you have to get to the commandline by pressing ctrl+alt+F1 and logging in and then typing sudo apt-get install docky
[23:01] <lefty_ally> HOW DO I GET WIFI TO WORK?
[23:01] <kriume> giff: the "Conky: attempting to use more CPUs than you have!"
[23:01] <NictraSavios> Lmao this feels soooooo weird. Im in a ubuntu chatroom... and im on windows. >.<
[23:01] <jrib> !caps | lefty_ally
[23:02] <jrib> !wifi | lefty_ally
[23:02] <umbunt> i see
[23:02] <bl4ckcomb`> lefty_ally, do a barrel roll
[23:02] <NictraSavios> Anyway, im here to help. On a partners computer
[23:02] <giff> kriume, modify the --cpu=2 (replace with 1)
[23:02] <RubenAlonzo> left_ally have you tried different drivers for your device?
[23:02]  * lefty_ally does a barrel roll
[23:02] <edbian> umbunt: For example, you can spin and read data off of both hdd's at the same time.  This would obviously be 2X's the slower drive, but the processor still can only read 1 stream at a time.
[23:02] <giff> kriume, (it's in the first command)
[23:02] <nickals> 5v5 ts/ctf scrim vs glad
[23:03] <kriume> giff: hey it worked now! :D
[23:03] <lefty_ally> i just need to know the package i need to get to get it working. says im missing software
[23:03] <spid3rnet> how now somthing aboute pentration testing to have a web_shell via 3306 port "mysql"
[23:03] <giff> kriume, what did I tell you :)
[23:03] <kriume> giff: thanks! but its totaly transparent, how do i fix that?
[23:03] <c001> anyone familiar with that sony vaio z series laptop?
[23:03] <ayecee> lefty_ally: what says you're missing software?
[23:04] <grugli> can some of you guys tell me about the state of Moonlight on Ubuntu?
[23:04] <lefty_ally> ayecee says "device not ready (firmware missing)"
[23:04] <RubenAlonzo> lefty_ally: what releaseof ubuntu are you using? i have 10.10 netbook and everything worked flawlessly right after the install, i even did 10.04 lucid and THAT worked fine as well. what pc are you on?
[23:04] <old_keyboard> Is ifup and ifdown the same as ifconfig ?
[23:04] <grugli> i'm trying to run a silverlight app and it doesn't display anything
[23:04] <umbunt> im lost , do you think im trying to raid because my raid is two idenical maxtors my system is in the 2 inch with windows/grub/ubuntu
[23:05] <edbian> RubenAlonzo: Just because Ubuntu works for your hardware (regardless of version) does not mean it will work perfect for his.
[23:05] <lefty_ally> RubenAlonzo hp mini series 210 - 1100
[23:05] <ayecee> lefty_ally: looks like you probably need b43-fwcutter
[23:05] <edbian> umbunt: What?
[23:05] <edbian> ayecee: Almost always, that's the case.
[23:05] <RubenAlonzo> edbian: thats true, and i did not mean to take it for granted that it would but perhaps more driver support is available for the 10.10 release than maybe older releases?
[23:06] <edbian> RubenAlonzo: That's true.  He should be using the newest stable release.
[23:06] <kriume> giff: do u know?
[23:06] <lefty_ally> ayeece i searched but nothing shows
[23:06] <firevai> hi everyone.. i've seemed to have deleted my taskbar at the bottom.. somehow emerald theme manager was down there, and i couldnt close it... so i deleted it from panel, and lost my taskbar, with trash bin and stuff.. how can i fix this goof?
[23:07] <ayecee> lefty_ally: which version of ubuntu?
[23:07] <lefty_ally> 10.10
[23:07] <bastidrazor> !resetpanel | firevai
[23:07] <edbian> firevai: Click the top panel.  Add a new panel.  Rebuild it the panel manually.
[23:07] <umbunt> my system is on the 2inch ata as ide 1, my raid is the two sata drives configured for raid
[23:07] <infid> when i drag an mp3 from nautilus to my ipod in Rhythmbox, it takes like 20 tries of drag/dropping before it finally works. Why is that?
[23:08] <lefty_ally> ayecee 10.10
[23:08] <edbian> umbunt: I didn't realize you had 3 drives.  What is your question then?  (I answered the performance question right?)
[23:08] <James1293> del_diablo: one more thing: you said it would take "arcane wizardry with grub and fstab". The site I was looking at made it look like an easy fstab edit and no touch grub, if I'm only moving home folder. Does that sound right? (the site is http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/)
[23:08] <umbunt> nevermind
[23:08] <ayecee> lefty_ally: huh. should be there. maybe use the hardware drivers applet instead - click on system, adminsitration, hardware drivers
[23:08] <edbian> umbunt: ok
[23:09] <firevai> yikes
[23:09] <edbian> ayecee: lefty_ally sudo apt-get update if things are missing
[23:09] <firevai> that made it worse
[23:09] <firevai> gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[23:09] <firevai> lost everything at the top right now
[23:09] <firevai> bottom is back, but its mucked up looking
[23:09] <Polah> What repos do I need to add to be able to get Sun Java 6 on ubuntu 10.04
[23:10] <hd1> boss issued an apt-get dist-upgrade and is upgrading java, taking up 100% of the CPU (openjdk-<mumble>), but if I kill the process, it wants me to still reconfigure it, how do I remove the package?
[23:10] <giff> kriume, open the conky file in gedit search for own_window_transparent and replace yes with no
[23:10] <infid> Polah: you dont need a repo, just download the tar, and install to /opt
[23:10] <hasan> is it possible to write directly to a device without caching first?
[23:10] <firevai> yikes now i cant add to the top panel
[23:10] <hasan> is it possible with the mounting option "-o sync"
[23:10] <hasan> ?
[23:10] <old_keyboard> Polah: canonical partners i think
[23:10] <edbian> firevai: is it locked?
[23:10] <infid> Polah: just get the binary tarball so you dont have to compile, that is a packagfe
[23:10] <ayecee> hasan: -o sync won't do that
[23:11] <ayecee> hasan: -o sync just makes it so that the write won't return until the data has been committed to disk
[23:11] <ayecee> is that what you want?
[23:11] <Polah> old_keyboard, archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner?
[23:11] <firevai> um
[23:11] <old_keyboard> Is there a difference between "ifconfig eth0 up" and "ifup eth0"?
[23:11] <RubenAlonzo> lefty_ally: do you have ethernet working if you plug it in? seems you have to manually plug it in to internet then do update and it will work, at least on the help forums the other person who posted with your exact model did that and it worked fine after update
[23:11] <suicidolt> is there an ubuntu pdf reader that will allow me to edit field?
[23:11] <kriume> giff: where is that file located
[23:11] <edbian> firevai: um...
[23:11] <firevai> no
[23:11] <firevai> man
[23:11] <RubenAlonzo> hope it helps in any case
[23:11] <firevai> this sucks
[23:11] <FloodBot3> firevai: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:12] <lefty_ally> edbian how would i do that?
[23:12] <hasan> ayecee: so which possibilities do i have?
[23:12] <edbian> lefty_ally: Do what?
[23:12] <firevai> i cant even add a clock to the top panel
[23:12] <hasan> to get more write performance on a device?
[23:12] <giff> kriume, gedit /home/kristoffer/.conkycolors/conkyrc
[23:12] <old_keyboard> suicidolt: yes there is
[23:12] <firevai> well its there .. i just cant see it
[23:12] <lefty_ally> edbian apt-get
[23:12] <suicidolt> old_keyboard: what' it called?
[23:12] <old_keyboard> suicidolt: pfedit
[23:12] <lefty_ally> or what ever it was
[23:12] <hasan> cause I can see that the kernel is caching first, and writes to the device like with a 10 sec interval
[23:12] <old_keyboard> suicidolt: pffedit
[23:12] <James1293> del_diablo: never mind, I'm just going to delete some stuff
[23:12] <suicidolt> pffedit?
[23:12] <Polah> old_keyboard, thanks it picks it up now
[23:12] <old_keyboard> suicidolt: ooops pdfedit
[23:12] <firevai> brb
[23:13] <RubenAlonzo> lefty_ally: apt-get install nameofsoftware
[23:13] <ayecee> hasan: what's the problem with that?
[23:13] <RubenAlonzo> brb
[23:13] <old_keyboard> suicidolt: I just go to software center and search pdf editor ;)
[23:13] <edbian> lefty_ally: apt-get?  apt-get is a program used to install software from the repositories.  It is the front-end to the package manager.  What in the big picture are you trying to do?
[23:13] <kriume> giff: there is no such folder in my home folder
[23:13] <Polah> lefty_ally, rubenalonzo: Need to append sudo if you're not root, remember
[23:13] <lefty_ally> edbian where would i enter ?
[23:14] <gaddafi> hey guys
[23:14] <edbian> lefty_ally: In a terminal.  Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[23:14] <gaddafi> dst time is set tonight
[23:14] <gaddafi> we time travel 60 minutes into the future
[23:14] <ayecee> gaddafi: in some countries, yes
[23:14] <old_keyboard> lefty_ally: ctrl+alt+t to open a terminal
[23:14] <gaddafi> will gnome set it automatically?
[23:14] <hasan> ayecee: I want it to copy faster
[23:14] <hasan> ayecee: gotta go to a party xD
[23:14] <ayecee> gaddafi: linux will, yes
[23:14] <old_keyboard> gaddafi: time travel?
[23:15] <ayecee> hasan: write caching improves performance. disabling caching won't improve performance.
[23:15] <old_keyboard> you mean hour will change?
[23:15] <hasan> ayecee: i c. thx
[23:15] <gaddafi> old_keyboard, yeah
[23:15] <old_keyboard> k
[23:15] <hd1> gaddafi: depends on your location
[23:15] <kriume> giff: nvm just found out that was a command u writed so i got i tnow
[23:15] <Polah> How can I set locale from command line? dpkg-reconfigure locale and localeconf don't work
[23:16] <lefty_ally> ok in terminal!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:16] <umbunt> how do i find the registry in linux.?
[23:16] <gaddafi> the registry?
[23:16] <oasisTopher> problem, when I run a script that contains "VBoxManage controlvm Watermains savestate && sudo halt"  it fails to boot back up completely (stuck at flashing _ symbol) but when I run that command manually on command line, it boots back up fine
[23:16] <lefty_ally> edbian i am in terminal
[23:16] <umbunt> ye like windows
[23:16] <ayecee> umbunt: unlike windows, there is not a central registry in linux.
[23:16] <edbian> lefty_ally: Question.  Are you connected to the Internet?
[23:16] <pfifo> what is the license on the fonts installed in /usr/share/fonts
[23:17] <umbunt> i know its modilar right what exactly does that mean/
[23:17] <edbian> umbunt: There isn't one.  Closest thing is gconf-editor
[23:17] <umbunt> googl it
[23:17] <lefty_ally> edbian yes but not with ubuntu
[23:17] <umbunt> i know this i was joking to see waht you would say
[23:17] <edbian> umbunt: Modular (in a general sense) means the parts can easily be removed and replaced.
[23:18] <edbian> lefty_ally: The command I was going to give you (sudo apt-get update) only works if you are online.
[23:18] <lefty_ally> fuck!
[23:18] <umbunt> that is window big flaw huh
[23:18] <edbian> lefty_ally: Please don't swear.
[23:18] <lefty_ally> sorry
[23:18] <edbian> umbunt: What is?  Having a registry?
[23:18] <lefty_ally> but why is wifi not working?
[23:19] <umbunt> you think not?
[23:19] <edbian> lefty_ally: Because the software that is needed to make the card work is proprietary and does not come with Ubuntu by default
[23:19] <suicidolt> old_keyboard: that didn't work..I'm trying to put text in form fields that are built into these pdfs, I don't want to change the existing text on the pdf
[23:20] <MGdroinog> hola
[23:20] <umbunt> not so much a registry but the way evything is bunched together in it
[23:20] <edbian> umbunt: There are pros. For example reading from the registry is faster than individual files.
[23:20] <Polah> !es > MGdroinog
[23:20] <edbian> umbunt: The lack of modularity increases complexity.  That is something I don't like.
[23:20] <lefty_ally> edbian : basically i am screwed
[23:20] <umbunt> yes but ther are cons 2 such as virs and malware
[23:21] <Polah> edbian: how would that work. Surely reading from the registry would require passing over it's entirety and then selecting the specific parts; whereas from a single file would require just loading that probably small file
[23:21] <edbian> lefty_ally: Connect the machine to the Internet in some other way.  There is a way to get the package and software manually using jump drives and such.
[23:21] <jrib> old_keyboard: why did you tell me before that on ubuntu systems /etc/motd is typically a symbolic link to /var/run/motd?  I'm not sure if you were trying to ask me something with that statement
[23:21] <Polah> lefty_ally: Surely your computer has an ethernet socket?
[23:21] <edbian> Polah: I don't really know.  I just read it on wikipedia.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Registry
[23:21] <lefty_ally> Polah yes
[23:21] <edbian> Polah: Read the rationale part.
[23:22] <old_keyboard> jrib: editing motd wont do &%%
[23:22] <lefty_ally> edbian
[23:22] <edbian> umbunt: Well the lack of modularity is not what makes windows less secure than linux.
[23:22] <edbian> lefty_ally:
[23:22] <lefty_ally> i have an ethernet cable
[23:22] <jrib> old_keyboard: ok, but that's not what I suggested
[23:22] <edbian> lefty_ally: Then plug it in.
[23:22] <giff> kriume, I was disconnected, did you ping me in the last couple of minutes?
[23:22] <edbian> lefty_ally: 'duh'
[23:23] <old_keyboard> jrib: i was reading update-motd
[23:23] <lefty_ally> edbian too what ?
[23:23] <lefty_ally> lol
[23:23] <umbunt> microsoft doent even care about xp/media center anmore its going to have the same fate as 98
[23:23] <cordell> Is there any advantage of using a 64 bit system over a 32 bit system, except for addressing more than 4 Gb of ram, which is over come with a pae enabled kernel.
[23:23] <Polah> edbian: I guess it would be quicker if the entire registry was loaded on boot and kept in memory
[23:23] <edbian> lefty_ally: Do you have a router / cable modem?  How are you getting Internet in the first place?
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> cordell:  some tasks can be faster.
[23:23] <edbian> Polah: I suppose?  (I kinda doubt that's the case, the registry is huge)
[23:23] <jrib> old_keyboard: yes, that details how and where you can modify motd
[23:23] <lefty_ally> edbian wirlessly but router in a diff room.
[23:23] <edbian> lefty_ally: Move the machine.
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> cordell:  and for my home lan. im better off doing all 64bit on all machines. vs 32 on some and 64 on others.
[23:24] <edbian> lefty_ally: No offense but this isn't exactly hard to figure out.
[23:24] <lefty_ally> edbian brothers room.
[23:24] <cordell> Dr_Willis: such as compiling? i wont be doing any of that
[23:24] <Polah> edbian: That's what I thought. To get one part it would have to load the entire thing each time before it could read it, even without the need to parse
[23:24] <umbunt> xp is booo,now its all about vista
[23:24] <lefty_ally> he is not so friendly
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> cordell:  any math intensive tasks.. video ecodeing and so on.
[23:24] <kriume> giff: no, i am trying to use somebody elses confyrc file now from this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=1672 becuase my looks completly wierd
[23:24] <ubuntu_>  
[23:24] <ubuntu_> test
[23:24] <JuNiOx> ?hello guys, I tried installing php 5.3.6 from .tar.gz file on ubuntu 10, but there was a bug message when executing "make test", does anyone knows where I can find a .deb package? or maybe an apt-get repository
[23:25] <edbian> Polah: Perhaps it can grab certain parts the same way files are grabbed?  I simply don't know.
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> cordell:  i dont see much reason to not go 64bit. if your hardware supports it.
[23:25] <cordell> well i have 8 gb of ram, but i dont do any math intensive tasks, or video encoding
[23:25] <gnome> how can I setup apache document root corectly to have right permision to write files in document root
[23:25] <edbian> Polah: It is a database rather than a file, maybe that has something to do with it.
[23:25] <giff> kriume, OK good luck :)
[23:25] <Polah> umbunt: XP is far superior to Vista. Hence why it's been in usage with companies for a decade and they don't want to switch up to Vista or 7
[23:25] <edbian> cordell: If you want to use all 8Gb you need to use 64 bit Ubuntu (or the pae 32 bit kernel)
[23:25] <Polah> edbian: But then it'd be just the same as having separate configuration files but with standardisation
[23:25] <umbunt> well you also have to think about the cost.
[23:25] <kriume> giff: what was the command to open my file in gedit again?? and thanks
[23:26] <edbian> Polah: Again, I don't know.
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> cordell:  a PAE kernel will be slower then an actual 64bit kernel also. From the benchamrks ive read.
[23:26] <umbunt> money money money
[23:26] <giff> kriume, gedit /path/to/file ?
[23:26] <Polah> umbunt: Cost is a factor; it would cost millions for a lot of large companies to switch, but it's also the fact that XP is pretty stable
[23:26] <edbian> umbunt: The cost of what?
[23:26] <edbian> umbunt: The registry?
[23:26] <lefty_ally> edbian what is the command
[23:26] <kriume> giff: yes
[23:26] <Polah> edbian: Changing infrastructures from XP to later versions of Windows
[23:26] <edbian> lefty_ally: sudo apt-get update   (updates your view of the repos)
[23:26] <umbunt> vist or windows 7 whatever you want to call it its just a bunch of service packs
[23:26] <giff> kriume, gedit /home/kristoffer/.conkycolors/conkyrc
[23:26] <kriume> giff: gedit conky -c /home/kristoffer/.conkycolors/conkyrc ?+
[23:27] <kriume> yeah ok
[23:27] <edbian> Polah: umbunt Yeah this isn't exactly 'on-topic
[23:27] <gnome> how can I setup apache document root correctly to have right permission to write files in document root?
[23:27] <giff> kriume, without the conky -c
[23:27] <cordell> Dr_Willis: yes, but not by much according to here http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=1
[23:27] <lefty_ally> edbian : okay
[23:27] <edbian> lefty_ally: :)
[23:27] <kriume> giff: ok trying now
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> cordell:  do what you want. I dont see much reason to not use 64bit these days
[23:27] <umbunt> the big dif is windows 7 likes the 64 bit systems
[23:27] <Polah> How can I set locale from command line? dpkg-reconfigure locale and localeconf don't work
[23:28] <edbian> cordell: So you're arguing that using the 32-bit pae kernel is a better bet because there is only a small reduction in performance?  Why not use 64 bit and have no drawbacks at all?
[23:28] <apocalyptiq> hi all! o/
[23:28] <rewati> hi what is the current version of ubuntu
[23:28] <edbian> rewati: 10.10
[23:28] <edbian> rewati: 10 <- year   . 10 <- month
[23:28] <apocalyptiq> i have unix hosting, and i've installed there locally ruby 1.9.2 (becouse by default there on system is 1.8.7)
[23:29] <cordell> well edbian, there are some applications that are 32 bit only, any contribute to a multilib system, which makes 64 bit software on the system redundant
[23:29] <giff> rewati, LTS is "current" too ...
[23:29] <umbunt> way off topic im sorry what is that strike 2
[23:29] <apocalyptiq> and i have $HOME/bin/ruby
[23:29] <apocalyptiq> how can i make it default ruby on my account?
[23:29] <Polah> edbian, rewati: Only for another month or so now
[23:29] <cordell> *and contribute
[23:30] <buken> can anyone help diagnose a poll_schedule_timeout issue?
[23:30] <rewati> my system showes 11.04
[23:30] <TheVenerableZ> Does anyone know of a serial terminal program that will let me send raw bytes and not just ASCII chars?
[23:30] <umbunt> is ubuntu one ever going to get any better?
[23:30] <giff> !natty | rewati
[23:31] <Darkenvy> hey whats a program that will regulate my sound to one sound level?
[23:31] <lefty_ally> edbian can i connect to the phonewall instead?
[23:31] <Polah> rewati: Then you have the development release of the next version. Latest stable is 10.10, 11.04 is available unstably and will be released proper on April the 28th
[23:31] <lefty_ally> jk
[23:31] <lefty_ally> jk
[23:31] <rewati> i dont remm that i installed natty
[23:31] <FloodBot3> lefty_ally: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:31] <old_keyboard> I am running ntpd how do I know if ntpdate is running at boot?
[23:31] <KenBW2> I just accidentally unplugged my graphics card. I've plugged it back in but everything seems unresponsive. Is there a way to revive the machine without restarting?
[23:31] <old_keyboard> they are diff things i know
[23:32] <giff> rewati, you may "accidentally" have upgraded to it
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> KenBW2:  on a desktop machine? Huh?
[23:32] <KenBW2> Dr_Willis: yea
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> KenBW2:  you had the case open and unplugged it while the system was running?
[23:32] <old_keyboard> I just want ntpd running not ntpdate
[23:32] <Polah> giff: How would he have done that? Update manager only recommends stable version I thought?
[23:32] <old_keyboard> may I remove ntpdate?
[23:32] <KenBW2> Dr_Willis: no, i was plugging the monitor in but the card isnt screwed in
[23:32] <edbian> cordell: Anything open source (the vast majority of Ubuntu) can be compiled for 64 bit with the switch of a flag (and has been for the repos) problem free.  The few remaining things like flash have 64 bit versions.  Many people use the 64 bit version with 0 issues
[23:32] <edbian> lefty_ally: I have no idea what phonewall is.
[23:33] <giff> Polah, copy pasting strings into terminal
[23:33] <old_keyboard> cordell: and flash is gonna die with html5
[23:33]  * agliodbs uses the 64-bit version
[23:33] <Darkenvy> I want my sound level to be even all the way through. im tired of quiet movies making me blast my speakers next time I play an MP3
[23:33] <rewati> so i dont need to do dist upgrade when natty will be released right?
[23:33] <edbian> old_keyboard: we hope
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> KenBW2:  so  you unplugged the card from the mb. while the system was running?
[23:33] <Polah> oh
[23:33] <KenBW2> Dr_Willis: that would be correct, yes
[23:33] <buken> I'm generating pdfs using wkhtmltopdf. For small pdfs the process works fine, but for larger ones, the wkhtmltopdf process goes to sleep while the waiting channel says 'poll_schedule_timeout' in system monitor
[23:33] <kriume> giff: yess man i got it working and have a really nice look right now:))) thanks!
[23:33] <edbian> Darkenvy: Then you'll have to get every recording company in the world to record and burn things are the same volume
[23:33] <Polah> rewati: You'll need to update everything to the stable versions
[23:33] <rewati> actually i am not using my laptop from longtime my all development is on my office laptop today i opened it and i saw natty and it is not even released
[23:34] <rewati> oh ok
[23:34] <kriume> giff: its amazing :P
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> KenBW2:  power down.. make sure its inserted properly.. screw it down.. power back up.. hope you dident short anything out.
[23:34] <rewati> polah: thanx
[23:34] <Darkenvy> edbian obviously you dont know such software DOES exist
[23:34] <giff> kriume, nice enjoy :D
[23:34] <Darkenvy> Im asking what this software is called/ option in my sound pref panel if built in
[23:34] <lucas> pas
[23:34] <cordell> but edbian isnt 64 bit flash just wrapped up in a 64 bit wrapper, that uses the native 32 bit binary?
[23:34] <Darkenvy> my friend on windows 7 has it for his sound system. proprietory software though
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> KenBW2:  and its best to UNPLUG the pc from the wall befor inserting/removeing cards.
[23:34] <Logan_> !nl | lucas
[23:34] <Polah> DarkEnvy: You want something for normalisation. I don't know what software there is for that but that's what you want it to do.
[23:34] <edbian> Darkenvy: Oh you mean that feature in itunes that automatically adjusts the volume?
[23:35] <Tommy3> My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades (ver 10.10)
[23:35] <edbian> cordell: I believe so
[23:35] <giff> rewati,  depends on your setup, have a look at sources.list and make sure everything points to natty
[23:35] <Darkenvy> normalization!
[23:35] <Darkenvy> thats it
[23:35] <KenBW2> Dr_Willis: i inadvertantly unplugged the graphics card, i was aiming to plug the monitor in
[23:35]  * old_keyboard kills adobe
[23:35] <KenBW2> Dr_Willis: it's not the hardware im worried about - im on 97 days uptime, aiming for 100
[23:35] <lucas> my apache correctly deals with all .php files,   except for index.php, which it treats as a file that should be downloaded instead of executed on the server.   any ideas where to look for the fix?
[23:35] <Darkenvy> does linux do normalization natively?
[23:35] <edbian> Darkenvy: It's in some audio players.  Amarok I believe has it.
[23:35] <Polah> KenBW2: Dr_Willis: Unplug it, give it a few seconds for capacitors to discharge and make sure to ground yourself to release any static charge on you
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> KenBW2: i would still say power down.. properly plug it in.
[23:35] <Darkenvy> cant I have it for the whole system?
[23:35] <Polah> DarkEnvy: Not that I am aware of.
[23:35] <edbian> Darkenvy: I don't know.
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> Polah:  still i find its best to unplug the thing from the wall. 'good habbits'
[23:36] <Darkenvy> but a freakin external sound equipment would do it.... but ubuntu cant? :(
[23:36] <ohsix> Darkenvy: movies generally use all that dynamic range, classical music does too; once all your sources are normalized theres not much you can do about separate sources, by then you're using compression or a limiter to make them all sound the same
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> ive seen high $$ video cards get fried befor.
[23:36] <Darkenvy> I dont want to spend $300
[23:36] <umbunt> is it a good idea when running a duell boot, win/bunt to format yer raid fat32. thats what i did and it sems to work great so far should i expect any problems in the future
[23:36] <Atomhunter> Hey, I set up a server with a 320gb os hdd, and a 1.5 tb raid 1 and have it set up as a NAS with samba... but both ubu and my windows pc says the drive is only 32gb
[23:36] <Polah> Dr_Willis: Yes, but do the other two things I said as well
[23:36]  * KenBW2 cries while pressing the power switch
[23:36] <suicidolt> it's not booting on anything anymore, I restarted this rig and even it isn't able to boot from the usb stick/sd card
[23:36] <cordell> edbian: well as far as i can tell, for me 32 bit is ok to use cause you dont get a messed up multilib system, and html > flash, however, only use 64 bit if you really want true native > 4 gb ram performance
[23:36] <ohsix> Darkenvy: "ubuntu" wouldn't do it, and anything can be done with great effort; pulse can use ladspa plugins
[23:36] <old_keyboard> Atomhunter: are you sure it's 320gb? lol
[23:37] <Darkenvy> whats ladspa?
[23:37] <irule> I installed ubuntu, used it with no compiz and ALT-TAB worked, then I used the ati propietary drivers and moved compiz settings arround but it sucked, so I disabled the ati driver and ALT-TAB does not work any more, so how may I fix it? thanks!
[23:37] <irule> I installed ubuntu, used it with no compiz and ALT-TAB worked, then I used the ati propietary drivers and moved compiz settings arround but it sucked, so I disabled the ati driver and ALT-TAB does not work any more, so how may I fix it? thanks!
[23:37] <ohsix> my personal mantra to use terms of art is if they're the first hit on google ;]
[23:37] <Atomhunter> @old_keyboard my OS hdd is that... my RAID setup is seen as the wrong size although
[23:37] <old_keyboard> !repeat | irule
[23:37] <edbian> cordell: I have no experience accept that people on here all the time recommend 64 bit with 0 issues
[23:37] <barf> What is the smallest desktop I can install?
[23:37] <umbunt> i can easily swap files betwen windows and bunt this way i think its good
[23:38] <barf> The one on the live distro is like 650MB? Is it possible to debootstrap that one?
[23:38] <irule> I understand guys Im sorry it was a mistake and I apologyze
[23:38] <Tommy3> My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot(ver 10.10)
[23:38] <cordell> edbian: the only system i can get a true native 64 bit system on, with no 32 bit binaries on is arch linux
[23:38] <edbian> cordell: Gotta love arch :)
[23:38] <yeats> cordell: there's no discernable difference between 32/64-bit for most users
[23:38] <ohsix> irule: all that stuff is in separate compiz plugins, you want to enable them if they somehow got disabled; simple-ccsm or ccsm will let you change the settings
[23:38] <BentFranklin> dpkg --list says "rc  network-manage 0.8-0ubuntu3   network management framework daemon".  Does that mean network-manager is removed or I desire it to be removed?
[23:38] <lefty_ally> edbian i  almost got in!
[23:39] <giff> barf, that's compressed, smallest is mini.iso and manually install xorg and wm
[23:39] <edbian> lefty_ally: Oh yeah?  I have no idea what you're talking about
[23:39] <cordell> alright im dont asking questions now, sudo go-help-someone-else
[23:39] <cordell> *done
[23:39] <zvacet> barf: what do you really want to do?
[23:39] <old_keyboard> I tried to purge "ntp" and it says it will remove ubuntu-minimal . Is it just a meta-package like ubuntu-desktop?
[23:39] <old_keyboard> safe?
[23:39] <lefty_ally> edbian to my my brothers room to get to the router
[23:39] <barf> install FF and GUI on 1GB
[23:39] <yeats> cordell: command not found ;-)
[23:39] <ohsix> yeats: one big difference is the package-managed version of flash uses nspluginwrapper and is vile :D
[23:39] <ohsix> (on 64bit)
[23:39] <Atomhunter> Hey anyone up for helping me with some raid help?
[23:40] <Tommy3> My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot(ver 10.10)
[23:40] <Jasonn> Anyone know how i can install PHProxy?
[23:40] <edbian> lefty_ally: Tell your brother this is Linux and he shouldn't impede progress
[23:40] <bastidrazor> old_keyboard: look at it and see: apt-cache show ubuntu-minimal
[23:40] <yeats> ohsix: good to know
[23:40] <giff> barf, yes possible 800 something it is
[23:40] <gnome> can I host multiple websites with ubuntu desktop version and apache or I need ubuntu server? what is the difference between desktop and server ubuntu?
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> !info phpproxy
[23:40] <lefty_ally> edbian lol
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> gnome:  desktop comes with the gui...
[23:40] <cordell> yeats: darn, try alias go-help-someone-else='man man'
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> gnome:  its easier to just install some sercvices on the desktop ed. if you want a desktop+server box.
[23:40] <Jasonn> !info phproxy
[23:40] <yeats> cordell: ha!
[23:40] <umbunt> could i format it ntfs and still be able to swap files betwen bunt and windows cuz i know windows will but will bunt
[23:40] <barf> giff: apt-get install xorg firefox fluxbox ?
[23:40] <gnome> Dr_Willis: Can I host multiple websites with desktop?
[23:41] <old_keyboard> bastidrazor: I saw that with synatpic
[23:41] <edbian> gnome: The biggest difference is the packages that server comes with by default.  You can take Ubuntu and turn it into server rather easily.  (and vice versa)
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> gnome:  install the services.. it wont matter.
[23:41] <giff> barf, yes that would do it
[23:41] <barf> giff thanks
[23:41] <Tommy3> My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot(ver 10.10)
[23:41] <umbunt> and we all know windows wants nothing to do wit ext
[23:41] <old_keyboard> bastidrazor: "This package depends on all of the packages in the Ubuntu minimal system" which means if has to be removed if one of those apps is removed, right?
[23:41] <zvacet> barf: follow giif advice and install with minimal iso see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[23:41] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: I want to run a webserver, and i want to have a PHP file as the site, how do i do this?
[23:42] <cordell> yeats: as for getting rid of that alias, your on your own, its probably in you ~/.bashrc or something
[23:42] <edbian> umbunt: Do you have an Ubuntu related question?  Hating windows is not the point of linux or this channel.
[23:42] <ohsix> yeats: there are some other differences, like ia32-libs and its dev package; which can make doing some stuff ugly, but no normal user would notice, and that's fixed with the multiarch stuff coming down the pipe in new versions of debian/ubuntu (starting w/natty)
[23:42] <bastidrazor> old_keyboard: correct.
[23:42] <Tommy3> My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot(ver 10.10)
[23:42] <gnome> um what services? I have apache I want to host multiple websites but I am absolute beginner in linux
[23:43] <gnome> I have ubuntu desktop
[23:43] <ohsix> gnome: try https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[23:43] <giff> barf, that is afair... if ubuntu is too bit debian would certainly fit
[23:43] <giff> big*
[23:43] <edbian> gnome: Apache can host multiple sites.  It's ticky to set up though.
[23:43] <old_keyboard> !apache
[23:43] <gnome> ohsix, but that is for server?
[23:43] <oasisTopher> problem, when I run a script that contains "VBoxManage controlvm Watermains savestate && sudo halt"  it fails to boot back up completely (stuck at flashing _ symbol) but when I run that command manually on command line, it boots back up fine
[23:43] <old_keyboard> start reading gnome
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  install the server you want. and configure it as needed.
[23:43] <Tommy3> My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot(ver 10.10)
[23:43] <barf> giff: I am trying to install ubuntu with firefox on a Samsung SyncMaster 400 PXn
[23:43] <lefty_ally> edbian i am in!
[23:43] <oasisTopher> help, anyone?
[23:43] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: Ok, do you know how i can make the server ask for a username/password on connect?
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> !lamp | gnome
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:  depends on the service... and the specifics of what you mean.
[23:44] <ohsix> gnome: the server/desktop difference is really only in the install media, both are virtual packages that install different things, ubuntu-desktop for desktop-y things, and ubuntu-server for servery things, you can do the same things on either
[23:44] <lefty_ally> edbian done loading now what?
[23:44] <gnome> that guide is for ubuntu server i have ubuntu desktop..
[23:44] <Polah> How can I set locale from command line? dpkg-reconfigure locale and localeconf don't work
[23:44] <giff> barf, I think 800something MB is the minimal installation, I'm not longer sure if xorg will fit on it
[23:44] <edbian> lefty_ally: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> gnome:  it dosent matter... the desktop edi. is basically a server + the X gui stuiff.
[23:44] <gnome> ahm
[23:44] <Jasonn> Dr_Willis: I just want a username and password (Just one combination) to be able to join my site
[23:44] <gnome> i see
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> gnome:  and a few other differances.
[23:44] <umbunt> now that i think about it NTFS might be better because you can alwase mount a windows FS from bunt so duh what as I thinking but fat 32 is so safe you know everything works with it not so much wit ntfs
[23:45] <Tommy3> My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot(ver 10.10)
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> Jasonn:   you can password protect your 'web server' to require login to access.. no idea how. bu tiseen it done.
[23:45] <gnome> should  I install some essential package to be able to host multiple websites with apache?
[23:45] <gnome> some additional essential package?
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> gnome:  you may want to read some apache docs.
[23:45] <gnome> service
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> !info apache2
[23:45] <ohsix> read that link i posted brah
[23:45] <gnome> I mean on ubuntu ide
[23:45] <gnome> side*
[23:45] <gnome> not on apache side
[23:45] <lefty_ally> edbian "firware missing"
[23:46] <gnome> some service that ubuntu will need to host few websites
[23:46] <lefty_ally> ayeece what else could be missing?
[23:46] <umbunt> thanks for your tim folks i will quit bothering you now
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> gnome:  err.. apache handles that.. not sure its really ubuntu specific at all.
[23:46] <edbian> lefty_ally: firmware missing?
[23:46] <Tommy3> My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot. how to recover???(ver 10.10)
[23:46] <lefty_ally> edbian yes
[23:46] <edbian> lefty_ally: pastebin (www.pastebin.com) the output of this: sudo lspci -k
[23:47] <lefty_ally> edbian im on my phone
[23:47] <gnome> ok
[23:47] <Polah> How can I stop and restart vsftpd on 10.04?
[23:47] <zarbula> HELP ubuntu, Kernel newbie trying to compile Xen for maverick and getting confused on a step on the community guide asking -- "To enable Xen (and its options in Kernel config, you should dis-/enable the configuration options in the right dependency order." what do I need to do exactly?
[23:47] <edbian> lefty_ally: The Ubuntu machine is online right?  Go to pastebin on there.  put the output of that command in the box, hit submit, and give me the link.
[23:48] <conical> Is anyone in here familiar with the AirPlay plugin for Totem?
[23:48] <kriume> giff: u there?
[23:48] <ohsix> Polah: "start" and "restart" if it has upstart files, /etc/init.d/vsftpd if it doesn't, though the second should act as a wrapper and work in either case
[23:48] <lefty_ally> edbian let me get on firefox
[23:48] <agliodbs> does 10.10 use MBR or GPT for the partition table by default?
[23:49] <chomporouter> long live ubuntu
[23:49] <kriume> giff: i tried this ""To run Conky when your computer starts, go to System > Preferences > Startup Applications, add a new startup application and under "Name" enter "conky" and under command, enter "~/.conkycolors/bin/conkyStart"      but it doesent work
[23:49] <kriume> giff: is that command wrong?
[23:49] <edbian> agliodbs: MBR is the master boot record.  GPT is the partition table.  They are different things.  Ubuntu uses both of them.
[23:49] <lefty__> edbian ok
[23:50] <edbian> lefty__: Your nick changed?
[23:50] <lefty__> edbian lefty_
[23:50] <lefty__> is domain name
[23:50] <edbian> lefty__: www.pastebin.com
[23:50] <lefty__> ally is my phone
[23:50] <edbian> lefty__: See my previous post for what to do.
[23:51] <ohsix> edbian: theres also an "mbr" partition scheme
[23:51] <giff> kriume, put this in a file, make it executeable and use instead: http://pastebin.com/Xnk95Wxn
[23:51] <danie395> is there a way to swicth work spaces kinda like the alt tab to swicth windows?
[23:51] <edbian> ohsix: oh really?  IDK then
[23:51] <lefty__> edbian how do i copy?
[23:51] <ohsix> if you want to separate them like that, theres also a fake mbr for gpt, so theres mbr & gpt :D
[23:51] <edbian> lefty__: highlight and right click the text in the terminal
[23:52] <kriume> giff: what do u mean? should i do these command in terminal , and will it work then?
[23:52] <ohsix> AND theres an mbr (the partition table format) overlay for gpt, so you can have both
[23:52] <danie395> is there a way to swicth work spaces kinda like the alt tab to swicth windows?
[23:52] <Atomhunter> anyone with experience with RAID 1 setups?
[23:52] <Polah> danie395: Ctrl Alt + Arrow key
[23:52] <edbian> danie395: alt + ctrl + left  (or right)
[23:53] <lefty__> edbian keys
[23:53] <Polah> edbian: Can also use up or down
[23:53] <edbian> lefty__: keys?
[23:53] <edbian> Polah: True
[23:53] <lefty__> yea like ctrl + c
[23:53] <danie395> thanks both of u just makes things quicker and easier lol instead of pushing the button
[23:53] <lefty__> like in windows
[23:53] <giff> kriume, no copy and paste in a new document in gedit
[23:53] <kriume> giff: will it work on startup now after i restart?
[23:54] <edbian> lefty__: ctrl + shift + c I believe.  Doesn't right click work?
[23:54] <giff> kriume, yes, save it somewhere, chmod +x the file and put it into startup
[23:54] <kriume> giff: explain please, where should i put the file after saved it?
[23:54] <lefty__> edbian not working for some reasom
[23:54] <agliodbs> is it possible to boot from an external USB hard drive?  not a thumbdrive, but an enternal spinny drive?
[23:54] <edbian> lefty__: Does ctrl + shift + c work?
[23:55] <ohsix> agliodbs: if your bios can do it, you can boot from any type of storage, and install it there too
[23:55] <lefty__> edbian let me see
[23:55] <edbian> agliodbs: Yes if your motherboard supports it
[23:56] <agliodbs> ok, that seems like a good test before I install this SSD
[23:56] <giff> kriume, anywhere you want eg /home/kristoffer/conkyautostart.sh
[23:56] <lefty__> edbian to paste?
[23:56] <edbian> lefty__: ctrl + shift + c copies in gnome-terminal
[23:57] <kriume> giff: ok done, what now?
[23:57] <Goliath> hey do i run winetricks as sudo?
[23:57] <lefty__> edbian to paste the copied text
[23:57] <edbian> lefty__: in firefox.  ctrl + v
[23:57] <edbian> lefty__: Do I really need to walk you through copy and paste?
[23:57] <danie395> how do i install frostwire with the sudo apt-get install frostwire ? what sources do i need
[23:58] <extra11> frostwire uses limewires network which is shutdown no?
[23:58] <kriume> should i select and add that file as the "command" for conky for startup programs?
[23:58] <kriume> giff ^
[23:58] <danie395> extrall, is it and were did u here that from ?
[23:58] <giff> kriume, chmod +x /home/kristoffer/conkyautostart.sh
[23:58] <shcherbak> am I wrong or there is not working cli-based twitter client in ubuntu repos?
[23:58] <lefty__> edbian http://pastebin.com/e2pxAkjn
[23:59] <Tommy3> My sata drive is not recognized after allowing upgrades . cant boot. how to recover???(ver 10.10)
[23:59] <kriume> giff: ok, is it working if i restart now?
[23:59] <kriume> giff: can i delete this file after or it has to stay?
[23:59] <Dr_Willis> extra11:  the network is not shutdown as far as i know.
[23:59] <giff> kriume, have you added it to startup items?
[23:59] <giff> kriume, it has to stay