[00:00] Atomhunter: you can do raids with partitions or entire disks, your choice [00:00] i need the entire disks... *sigh* this is more complicated that I expected... [00:00] gomiboy: removing pulseaudio did not help... arg.. now i can reinstall it [00:01] i should prolly install mdadm.... [00:04] Atomhunter: i suppose ubuntu server has install time options to setup a raid, never tried... [00:04] yea... i but i dont' want to install the OS on the raid... which it always wanted to do (or all the tuts show me...) [00:06] know a way to boot from cd without an attached monitor? [00:06] Atomhunter: i think os on raid is a Good Thing (tm) :P [00:07] you can make 2 partitions, for sys and for data [00:07] lol I would... except i need the 1.5tb to back up my desktop too... [00:07] and the 320 gb is enough for the OS === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway [00:12] Atomhunter: there are for sure "advanced" partitioning options during install that will let you do what you want... [00:12] yea... *sighs and crawls under desk to reconnect vga from desktop to server* [00:14] Atomhunter: i have to go, if you have questions maybe #ubuntu-server is a better place, bye [00:14] oh sweet thanks... didn't know there was an ubuntu server [00:15] when I slide between workspaces I get a grid but the grid doesn't show anything in it; on Gnome the corresponding grid shows a preview of the desktops rather like KDEs ctrl-F8 view - is there a way to get that into the workspace slider? === dustin is now known as folorn === ahmed is now known as Guest69698 === ||arifaX is now known as Guest61995 [02:17] BBB" [02:17] err .. wrong command === james is now known as Guest57950 === mren is now known as mren|off === dustin is now known as folorn [03:17] Testing... 123. [03:20] Is anyone seeing this? [03:21] !test again | chrisf_ [03:21] chrisf_: Failed again. [03:23] yes [03:23] =) [03:23] chrisf_: this chan is for support [03:24] if you have a question, ask it [03:24] It's been a decade since I've been on IRC so excuse the noobieness... [03:24] welcome back [03:24] I'm struggling with grub2. Is there a channel for that? [03:25] I don't know much about it, but ask away [03:25] !grub [03:25] grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards. [03:25] !grub2 [03:25] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [03:25] those links might help also [03:25] I have lost grub after installing Windows but I made it past that :-)... [03:27] cool [03:27] I just installed Kubuntu 10.04 on a thumbdrive. Works OK so far but the installer added the pendrive to the grub menu and I think made it the default. Now when I remove the pendrive grub gets mad. [03:27] the /grub2 link should be comprehensive [03:27] ah [03:27] this is a bug I ran into also [03:28] the second link should help you fix that [03:28] I went about it in a rather half-assed way [03:28] lol [03:28] Thanks for the help I'll check the link. [03:29] :-) [03:30] Evening Everyone! :) [03:31] I was wondering... has anyone any suggestions for a firewall GUI for kubtunu? [03:32] !info guarddog [03:32] guarddog (source: guarddog): firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.0-2.1ubuntu3 (maverick), package size 506 kB, installed size 1548 kB [03:32] !firewall [03:32] Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist. [03:32] :-) [03:32] was going to put bulldog =) [03:32] pitbull! [03:33] :-) [03:33] So if I get poodle - is that the pink gui ;) [03:33] S74rk7: ufw command on the cli are very simple [03:33] lol [03:35] poodle sounds foofy! [03:35] the pink gui is fluffy [03:35] !fluffy [03:35] ufw enable then ufw default deny done =) [03:36] sad, ubottu doesn't know about fluffy [03:36] @iflema, valorie - thanks for the suggestions - gonna check them out now :) [03:37] maybe we should put together a pink fluffy - foofy friendly gui and then we can add it to the bot listings :) [03:37] lol [03:37] fluffy is done [03:37] apachelogger/fregl collaboration [03:38] fluffy is real? [03:38] I think there was some alcohol involved [03:38] lol [03:38] * S74rk7 alcohol = guilty 8) [03:38] lol [03:39] http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Fluffy?content=125581 [03:40] wow... [03:40] lol [03:40] colourful [03:41] not my thing tbh [03:41] lol [03:42] have you guys ever used that package "KleanSweep" ? [03:44] no, what is it supposed to do? [03:44] had to take the dog out.... [03:45] on fluffy, also: http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/fluffy/ [03:45] there is a serious side to it also [03:45] lols... whats fluffy?? [03:45] or.... semi-serious [03:45] its looks dangerous - could kill your os ... its just a kind of "Cleaner" - like scans for orphaned files n the like? [03:45] basically, a children's distro [03:45] ah [03:45] be a bit like CCleaner for windoze? [03:46] personally, I would rather trust apt-get [03:46] do sudo apt-get --help [03:46] and try clean or autoclean [03:46] Upon logging into Kubuntu 10.10, I get this error: 'Cannot open ConsoleKit session:The permission of the setuid helper is not correct'. My NTFS drives have disappeared, and it also says that ALSA and Flash Player are not found. Yesterday everything was fine. Help please? [03:46] that works, and will protect your system [03:46] http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=28631 <--- KleanSweep KDE ... the one I'm talking about [03:47] looks like you could do a bit of harm though if you didn't know what you were doing... :) [03:47] Pranav_rcmas: sounds like maybe a hard disk problem [03:48] Ouch. Alright, thanks for the help :) [03:48] Pranav_rcmas: what has changed... what was inatalled/updated yesterday.... anything? what did u do =) [03:48] Well, I installed new updates from packagekit [03:49] I do remember that one update was broken though [03:50] Pranav_rcmas: broken? [03:51] If anyone replied, sorry, missed it after this: I do remember that one update was broken though [03:52] When I open the KPackageKit, it shows 'Unknown error happened'. [03:52] hmmm [03:52] There was one broken package, I think it was a dbus update. [03:53] that sounds likely [03:53] Is there a chance that dbus is not disabled or something? [03:53] I mean, not *enabled [03:54] personally, I would do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [03:54] what version of KDE4.... the default or you put 4.6 on it? Maybe try bring up a command line and type sudo apt-get update then do sudo apt-get upgrade and see what it reports. the upgrade option will attempt to update installed packages [03:54] and see if you can get that update fixed [03:55] Default version [03:55] I'm doing the upgrade right now, will get back. Thanks for the help! [03:55] S74rk7: did you notice that Kleensweep is a KDE3 app? [03:55] Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.PermissionsInvalid: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct [03:55] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [03:56] :S [03:56] :S [03:57] valorie: I did, but I opened it and it seemed to run and scan fine - I was curious though, does that have any effect? [03:57] Pranav_rcmas1: have a little google also and see if any other are in the same boat... maybe even *ubuntuforums* and *askubuntu* as well... ive no GUI here right now! [03:58] I googled before coming here, actually :) [03:58] it should just remove empty folders and files [03:58] which shouldn't hurt anything [03:58] from what I read [03:59] How do I log into tty console in kubuntu? [03:59] *tty1 [03:59] Pranav_rcmas1: try in a terminal sudo service dbus status [03:59] it seems to find plenty though, what I mean is, I let it scan for like 5mins and check it and it found around 190MB.... and still climbing... [04:00] dbus start/running, process 864 [04:01] what makes me curious though, see part of the switch from windows to linux, the bit I'm still trying to get my head around is how to maintain a linux system.. [04:01] Pranav_rcmas1: ctrl+alt+F2 F7 will get you back or stop KDM sudo servicekdm stop [04:02] I mean in windows, you had a array of disk defragging programs, registry scanners and all the rest of it - techniques to try keep your system running smoothly.... [04:02] but in linux, I've been told there is no need for a defragging the harddrive [04:02] due to the EXT4 format... [04:03] * iflema winblows! [04:03] that was impressive I thought, and when I ask people about AntiVirus... most people tend to ask me why I want to bother first off... [04:04] S74rk7: virus scanner 4 linux = scan the files/email you serve to windows users [04:04] no, defragging isn't needed [04:04] that rocks lol [04:04] most people never need an antivirus [04:04] iflema, 'sudo servicekdm stop:command not found' and 'sudo service kdm stop: stop: Unknown instance: ' [04:05] gosh, I don't miss those at all [04:05] the speed + stability in linux is unreal... [04:05] put a gap between service and kdm =) [04:05] Yeah, I did :) [04:05] iflema, 'sudo servicekdm stop:command not found' and 'sudo service kdm stop: stop: Unknown instance: ' [04:05] oh, really! try gdm [04:06] I mean it was windows 7 I was using when I bought the laptop - and I didn't have any issues ... Windows 7 is a hell of an improvement for Microsoft - if anyone has much experience here with prev windows distros you'll know what I mean [04:07] After installing Kubuntu onto a pendrive my PC will no longer boot without it. I found the grub.cfg file being used on the pendrive. The other grub.cfg is intact on the harddrive but PC no longer uses it. PC is set to only boot from harddrive so how/why is it using pendrive? A better question is how do I switch it back? [04:07] Any ideas? [04:08] but is there really no kind of routine scanners or maintaince task needed to be done in linux? [04:08] chrisf_: id grab a copy of supergrub disk and boot to the installed kubuntu and then reset grub [04:08] chrisf_: if you can get in allready even better... just reinstall grub2 [04:09] Pranav_rcmas: it may be gdm depending on your setup [04:11] S74rk7: maybe some cleaning up with apt-get!?! on the occasions occasionally [04:11] Thanks for the advice. I'll try re-installing grub2. [04:12] * iflema i gotta p bbl [04:22] iflema: thanks dude... was just looking the commands there from that "Linux in a Nutshell" book... it has everything... need it on pdf so I could search it would sometimes be quicker lol [04:22] iflema, this fixed the problem -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1705223 :) [04:23] apt-get clean,autoclean, autoremove, check and all that :) [04:25] goodone [04:26] I've that one bookmarked now, I had your error before in ubuntu too [04:34] <_sophia> hello guize [04:34] !dpkg [04:34] dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. [04:34] S74rk7: try in a terminal man apt-get or man [04:34] hmmm [04:34] <_sophia> why can't i drag tabs around in firefox? ;o [04:36] not sure -- I can [04:36] I've never tried before, but it just worked [04:38] thanks again valorie+iflema ! [04:38] you are very welcome [04:40] hey guys a delicious KDE Oxygen theme for Firefox 4.0: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+KDE+%28Firefox+Theme%29?content=117962&PHPSESSID=611422531fe35d6a27206870fa1c3b0b [04:48] <_sophia> ;/ [04:58] valorie: can I ask you a question please about kde versions? just about something you mentioned earlier if your not busy? :) [04:59] sure [04:59] I'm not that knowledgeable, but go ahead [05:00] are there problems you can expect to run into if your running a GUI that is made for a different KDE version? [05:01] hmmm [05:01] usually the problem is that it hasn't been packaged [05:01] but if it is running for you, I doubt you will have problems [05:02] now there are some differences like DCOP vs. dbus which will create problems in some apps [05:02] but in general those have either been reworked to fit the new tech [05:03] or dropped [05:03] you might get more specific info in #kde [05:03] It has me curious just what kind of effects it would cause, but I haven't got time right now to go reading into desktop enviroments (Gnome/KDE) atm lol - reading up on firewall commands and different gui's [05:03] lol [05:03] right [05:03] thats a good idea though [05:04] in general, the difference is the toolkits [05:04] Gtk vs. Qt [05:04] besides the obvious style and approach difference [05:05] GTK is tied to Gnome (or what I think its called -thats used in Ubuntu) and QT being a KDE kind of enviroment? I ask as I've heard I think of Xubuntu? is that a different style again? [05:07] Xfce, yeah [05:07] one more different desktop [05:07] oh, it's Qt, not QT [05:07] QT=QuickTime [05:08] ahhh lol [05:08] Qt is a programming environment, as is Gtk [05:08] I thought you were gonna QT was yet another variation [05:08] lol [05:08] quicktime is the Apple video format [05:08] no no I know :) [05:09] there are so freaking many choices in linux [05:10] it's bewildering [05:10] I've been using it for about 10 years, and I'm just now getting it all sorted out [05:10] thanks though, no just I've only been using linux for about 2-3months and I'm only getting it configured to a point where I want to start learning the ins+outs....its a different language lol [05:10] I was just a user for many years, until I volunteered [05:10] linux I mean... its crazy... a different world in computers... [05:10] :-) [05:11] the important thing is to keep an open mind, find out what you like, and please yourself [05:11] and don't take any of it too seriously [05:11] it ain't religion [05:11] see thats part of the problem I'm having at the minute... [05:11] I like too much... [05:11] lol [05:12] that's fun! [05:12] because of the choices...open mindedness it gives you a chance to let your imagination dream something up.... and your on the perfect platform in linux to make it possible.... [05:13] I'm loving it... theres so much to take in sometimes though... I was a windows user for 13years... I loved messing around in all different topics and things...but you always seem kind of limited almost when you want to get inside things and see how it all works... [05:14] lol [05:14] what can I say - I'm a geek lol [05:14] me too === Andrea is now known as Guest31505 [05:14] the world needs more geeks [05:15] we all must just unite! lol [05:15] well, that means herding cats [05:15] lmao.. [05:15] people do unite, around projects that interest them [05:15] I know I think that is great... [05:16] so find out what you like, and hang around the project channel, and start to help out [05:16] it's fun [05:16] even this irc I'm just getting started like 2 days ago... [05:16] irc is an awesome tool [05:16] I love it [05:16] have been using it longer than linux [05:17] mirc ftw! [05:17] I always heard of it but never looked into - message forums were usually my method of sending/receiving support [05:18] It reminds me of chatrooms waaaay back in like 96 when I got my first windows pc and the internet in... good ole 56k :P lol [05:18] ubuntuforums and kubuntuforum both rock [05:18] and the mail lists are good too [05:18] * valorie started online with 300 baud [05:18] mailinglists is something I have always been curious about... I never got round to looking into it [05:18] but I didn't start using IRC until about 2000 [05:19] I'm self taught a lot of what I know... I have to read up n research n play about myself so when something looks nice and complicated to play with I leave it to come back to when I finish whatever I'm doing at that time lol [05:20] so I never could ask someone in person to show me or run me through the basics ... this irc and the channels is great to learn from in too [05:21] well, there is the beginner's channels [05:21] which are for beginners to ubuntu, to programming, -- lots of stuff [05:22] really friendly, helpful people [05:22] !list [05:22] This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot » [05:22] oh, what's it called [05:22] its great even for just reading and keeping up with the topic... learning from other peoples problems... as when you guru's are explaining how to fix it you explain whats going wrong... helps piece together how things work n all lol [05:22] !alis [05:22] alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* [05:23] to find the beginner's chans, do /msg alis list beginner [05:23] great stuff [05:23] I see what you mean irc rocks... [05:23] lol [05:23] and the bots on here lol [05:23] clever [05:23] lol [05:24] I was playing around a little with irc commands last night... well just making a channel and that... creating identities and trying to see what the /mode command was all about lol [05:24] thanks for all the advice and info :) [05:25] yes, the bots are really useful [05:26] I like that response it does... "Please dont think I'm intelligent" .... I thanked it thinking it was a user of something before and it done it lol [05:29] valorie: Hey thanks, the /msg alis list <---> command rocks... can search for channels now :) [05:30] :-) === AndroUser is now known as luckyphuq [05:31] and it supports boolean operators :-) [05:31] lol [05:37] S74rk7: People used to have conversations with the bot and get upset and leave before that :) [05:37] lol - awww I bet that was funny though lol [05:38] when the people came back or something and then find out it was a bot... I'd lmao [05:38] lol [05:38] Daskreech: How are you tonight then mate? [05:38] Peckish [05:39] dude... my thoughts exactly... I was setting the laptop down to go make something real quick... got the munchies a while ago lol [05:40] !list is This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. Looking for channels? see !alis. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot » [05:40] then I seen you msg... love the shortcut though... for the notifications... you shown me how to set it up last night :) its great - real handy.. its getting to the stage now in linux I'm using the touchpad less and less with the ease of setting up keyboard shortcuts for everything... :) [05:40] !list [05:40] This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot » [05:41] !bot [05:41] Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [05:41] !kubuntu [05:41] kubuntu is Ubuntu with the KDE Software Compilation instead of !Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join #kubuntu - See also !kde [05:42] !ubuntu [05:42] Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Ubuntu comes with the GNOME interface. To install that from Kubuntu install the ubuntu-desktop package. [05:42] how can you talk to FloodbotK1? lol [05:42] /msg ubottu please root__ [05:42] what does he have to say :) [05:42] flood [05:42] flood [05:42] 04:32 < root__> flood [05:42] 04:32 < root__> flood [05:42] 04:32 < root__> flood [05:42] root__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [05:43] root__, please stop that [05:43] oh... lol [05:43] that was probably my fault bazhang I asked lol [05:45] ha [05:45] In any case do not IRC as root [05:52] Daskreech: I know to be weary about the root privies for things... can I ask just out of curiousity ... what makes you say that ? :) [05:52] probably a n00b question but :) [05:53] S74rk7: There are 1/2 dozen ways people can trick you into giving over information across IRC. You can also allow direct connections with IRC. Why would you want to chance that someone could find a bug in them while you are logged in as root [05:53] There is no reason why you need root to talk to someone on the internet [05:53] that's the whole point of sudo [05:53] saddle up when you need to [05:53] other wise, do not [05:54] ahhh direct connections... you mean for say example file transfer and that? [05:54] yes [05:55] no I know - I think the whole sudo thing is a great security measure in linux... windows with always admin privies as default for most users [05:56] ha... I'm just noticing the send file action when you right click on usernames... [05:56] lol [05:58] so if I knew how... could I have a server running on another computer...create an irc channel....have bots/some kind of irc server running to my configuration - log on to my channel from somewhere else - and run various commands if I have everything talking to each other ... setup file transfers and all that ?? all from irc and bash scripting? [06:00] sure [06:00] that's why there are so many warez servers [06:00] so would you say to be weary of file transfers and stuff on irc too? you know from strangers n all :) [06:00] YES [06:00] dcc can be dangerous with strangers [06:01] dcc? direct connection ... whats the other c? lol [06:01] communication? [06:01] not sure [06:02] but it starts in IRC, and then is direct computer <> computer [06:02] is that the technical term though... tcc? [06:02] dcc, yes [06:02] with people you know, it's an easy way to send a picture or something [06:02] Direct computer Connection [06:03] There are no servers in between [06:03] but I would make sure they are not only friends, but also regularly use anti-virus, etc. [06:03] right... :) [06:03] if they are win users [06:04] And also that they bathe [06:04] smelly users.... [06:04] Dask [06:04] rofl [06:05] lol - there be no smelly users direct computer connecting with me... thats for sure!! [06:05] lol [06:05] no but seriously... [06:06] so even accepting a connection from someone on irc is dangerous? [06:06] DCC, yes [06:06] regular PMs, no [06:06] they are annoying, but not dangerous [06:07] it is considered impolite to PM without asking [06:07] I thought it would have been that... I could accept say a file of some sort... but the protection from if I was going to open it or and it was looking root privies/password auth. then I could ignore/cancel it and I'd be pretty sade [06:07] *sade = safe [06:08] it's like public sex in a park [06:08] maybe you won't catch a disease [06:08] but why would you risk it? [06:08] ahhh I'm sure you and Daskreech know all about that - lol - its part of the burden with knowing the ways of the linux jeidi [06:09] valorie: To be on Jerry springer? [06:09] rofl [06:09] LMAO [06:09] you two aren't wise lol [06:10] hey, I never ONCE have been on Jerry Springer! [06:10] I know right! Or we would have been on Jerry Spinger then migrated to a reality show [06:11] lol - that seems a trend lol [06:12] attached ourselves tosome slightly washed up music artist had a huge public showing of love gone quiet for two months then reappeared in a movie with Nick Cage [06:14] Then gone crusading for poor children around the world to raise themselves up out of poverty by having companies give money to get Linux laptops to third world countries [06:14] umm [06:14] with KDE [06:14] ok so we are back on topic :) [06:14] don't think I've seen that one... when's that coming out? sounds like a cool sequel to Drive Angry :) [06:16] only with a van.... and a little Tux on the top... lol - I'd participate :) [06:17] Anyone tried out LibreOffice? [06:18] well, I have open office [06:18] the predecessor [06:18] I've been using it for years [06:18] even on windows [06:24] S74rk7: Openoffice is LIbreoffice [06:29] it's like openoffice with a different name [06:38] http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/The-Cold-War-Between-OpenOffice.org-and-LibreOffice [06:39] I found it n just in case you guys were interested :) [06:39] !ot | S74rk7 [06:39] S74rk7: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [06:40] :) [06:41] sorry should have been more specific :) was aimed at you Daskreech n petete :) [06:41] I'm not spamming lol [06:42] S74rk7: Spam and offtopic are different things [06:42] yeah I know... I was generalising.... [06:45] for offtopic, oddly enough, there is #kubuntu-offtopic [06:45] :-) [06:46] Hi Folks, I'm looking for a highlighting tool/command... Like grep but nut filtering but highligting... [06:51] FYI: found way to highlight: | less then /pattern === christian is now known as Guest88012 [06:54] 速度 === sre-su_ is now known as sre-su [07:16] Hi what is the name of utility which comes up when Alt+F2 is pressed? [07:20] krunner [07:23] you are welcome === c2tarun_ is now known as c2tarun === Michael is now known as Guest67461 [08:41] /list === c2tarun is now known as c2tarun_ === c2tarun_ is now known as c2tarun [10:36] good morning [10:36] how do i check local timzone settings? [10:55] hola [10:55] alguien me ayuda [10:56] !es [10:56] En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [10:56] !ru [10:56] Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [10:56] ok [11:03] hi guys [11:03] i am unable to fix up my mic for skype [11:04] i installed pavucontrol and padevchooser but no luck [11:05] dell: mm [11:05] dell: i will remove pulse at all [11:06]