[00:01] <ali1234> which means you can't make them go away either
[00:02] <penguin42> yofel: do you know if there is a way in KDE to get previews of workspaces as you switch between them?   Gnome's sliding workspace thing gives you a preview of them all and it's great when you forgot where you left a window
[00:02] <incorrect> seems like you need an x to click them away
[00:02] <ali1234> yeah
[00:03] <yofel> penguin42: maybe, would have to search for it, ctrl+f8 will show all desktops too
[00:03] <penguin42> yofel: Ooh that is nice - now if it would how that when I slid about between them its exactly what I want
[00:04] <incorrect> i wonder if there will be keyboards made with an ubuntu logo rather than the windows key
[00:04] <syn-ack> incorrect, Just buy the sticker that goes over the windows logo. :P
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> incorrect:  ive seen them befor.. seen stickers you can replace the logos with also.
[00:05] <incorrect> i would buy a official ubuntu keyboard
[00:05] <syn-ack> incorrect, There happens to be one in the ubuntu store.
[00:05] <syn-ack> It's like a Happy Hacker Keyboard.
[00:05] <incorrect> ah
[00:06] <platius> http://www.system76.com/article_info.php?articles_id=9     free stickers
[00:06] <syn-ack> I've got like 8 of the "powered by" stickers that are in that pic
[00:07] <syn-ack> I don't have the super key sticker tho
[00:07] <robin0800> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=718
[00:12] <yofel> penguin42: ask in #kubuntu maybe, I can't find such a setting currently
[00:12] <penguin42> will do
[00:29] <IronHalik> hello
[00:30] <IronHalik> what windows app should i use to boot natty a3 from usb? :>
[00:32] <penguin42> IronHalik: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[00:32] <IronHalik> universal usb installer wont work?
[00:34] <penguin42> dunno
[00:34] <IronHalik> ok thx
[00:34] <IronHalik> ill try unetbootin
[00:36] <kella> How do I disable the login sound?
[00:38] <trism> kella: the sound after you log in? previously it was by unchecking GNOME Login Sound in Startup Applications, I can't check right now though
[00:39] <kella> No, the sound gdm makes when it starts
[00:41] <trism> kella: is there still a Login Screen option in the System Settings? that's where it used to be
[00:42] <kella> The screen's still there, there's a checkbox but it's already unchecked
[03:40] <lediable> is 11.04 working on an mobile phone like HTC... ?
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> Phonbuntu!
[03:43] <lediable> phonbuntu ?? i'll seeek on google :)
[03:43]  * Dr_Willis just made that up.
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> I doubt if you are going to be installing 11.04 on a phone any time real soon.
[03:45] <lediable> a question of firmware or ?
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> ARM cpu, limited power/memory, screen size...
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> Plus what do the phone makers gain. :)
[03:46] <lediable> http://www.guanabara.info/2008/12/colocaram-o-linux-no-iphone-d/
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> I got terminal and irc, and other apps on my Android phone now.. not sure what i sould gain from a full ubuntu install on it.
[03:46] <lediable> but i do not want an iphone... hum
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> My biggest limit is i cant put a full keyboard onto the phone some how. :) Yet...
[03:47] <lediable> yes android is maybe sufficient in fact... i'm on 1.5 .... i'm sad
[03:48] <bbigras>  1.5? Arn't you tempted to root?
[03:49] <lediable> yes
[03:49] <lediable> but i'm too n00b for it :(
[03:49] <lediable> i dont know if a have to re-firm the ware...
[03:50] <bbigras> many of us are noob with flashing/bricking phones... you could check the xda forum, it must have guides for most models.
[03:50] <lediable> ....firmware.... i'm only on linux plateform and can't communicate even with usb...
[03:51] <lediable> xda forum... i seek :)
[03:52] <bbigras> :)
[03:52] <lediable> i'ts huge 8)
[03:53] <bbigras> :D
[03:53] <lediable> i'm on it....
[03:53] <lediable> HTC Hero (its old but.... free of fees ;)
[03:56] <lediable> i don't want to make a brik :(
[04:02] <bbigras> I guess there's always risks. If I would be in your situation I personnaly would consider it but I would read a lot about it. I guess most bricks occurs when people think they figured it out without reading anything or only one guide on a blog. But don't feel presured to do it if you don't want to, only you can decide. It's your toy.
[04:07] <lediable> i take the risk, as software engineer old-school.... :$
[04:08] <lediable> i'm on usb... try to see htc as a device... is single as that ? :?
[04:09] <lediable> not mounted... :( not in mount scope
[04:11] <lediable> not single as it seem.... hum :/
[04:11] <lediable> he want windows... i don't have it so.... sh...t
[04:18] <bbigras> It seems that when you try the natty live cd and you choose French, the keyboard is set to azerty which is not really good for people from Québec. Who should I talk to about that?
[04:31] <mdwright_laptop> How can I change the Unity size? It's massive on my 24" monitor
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> Quebec french is differnt then from Other french?   :) perhaps theres a differnt langguage you should be using.
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/unity-personalization-how-much-can-you-really-do/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28Omg!+Ubuntu!%29
[04:32] <bbigras> :) We use qwerty (with special keys I guess), French uses azerty. So it's hard to type for us when the keyboard is wrong.
[04:33] <mdwright_laptop> Dr_Willis: I actually knew a few quebecois who refused to speak french in front of some foreign exchange students from France, because of their (the quebecois students) accents. Nothing to do with the language itself, I suppose, though I know there are is a fair big of difference between the two.
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> My sister is a french teacher. married a french pastry chef. :)
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> both are now living in florida :P
[04:34] <bbigras> lucky them. hot place with lots of pastries.
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> So canadian french would perfer the  american keyboard layout?
[04:36] <mdwright_laptop> Dr_Willis: Yeap, though the quebec gov. requires a special keyboard I believe
[04:36]  * mdwright_laptop is a Canadian living in the US
[04:37] <bbigras> We use the 'ca' layout French speaking Canadians.
[04:38] <bbigras> We can choose it when we install Ubuntu but not when we try it.
[04:38] <mdwright_laptop> Dr_Willis: Also, thanks for the link, but it only lets me change the icon size on the application bar (or whatever it's called). I'm actually looking to change the size of the dropdown that shows up when I click the ubuntu icon.
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> Unity is still a work in progress.. :) im upgrading this box now to 11.04 - so ive not even tried it.
[04:39] <mdwright_laptop> Gotcha. I mean, I knew it was a work in progress, I just figured there'd be a way to change font size that possibly wasn't in the graphical config
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> Been testing out the latest JoliOS on another box. (or whatver its named now)   getting to be to many weird desktop layouts these days  :)
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> gnome3, unity, android phones...
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> Im waiting for GEOS to make a comeback next.
[04:40] <mdwright_laptop> Haha
[04:41] <mdwright_laptop> I'm going to be up to my ears in Android in just a couple months
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> Im constantly trying to do 'things' in one desktop/os/ thats only in some of the other desktops...
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> Im so used to how my Phone does the notifications - that i find my self trying to drag the top panel down to see  them on the pc... :)
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> Joli lets me 'sync' installed apps across differnt pc's - which is a nice feature..   I can browse the android store and click and have apps install to my phone.... another neat feature..
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> perhaps someday Ubuntu will borrow the best ideas from those.
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> Actually I think i read somwewhere. the software center  - is supposed to do some sort of sync thing.. some time..
[04:45] <mdwright_laptop> It really wouldn't be all that difficult I don't think
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. running the update-manager to upgrade to  11.04.. got kicked out of X back to GDM.. now .. its confused.. heh
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> top is showing dpkg doing stuff.. so i guess i will let it sit in the background and run a bit.
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> !fixapt
[05:14] <sagaci> is it just me or is there too much glow/shadow around non-maximised windows
[05:37] <lediable> http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing.html
[05:38] <lediable> finilly, that'swath i've found to do the job :/
[05:55] <Dart> Is it possible to make an appindicator that can store and execute commands clipbaord style? This iwll solve my problems fro not having panel applets in natty.
[07:41] <bpr> i'm thinking of adding a global hotkey that will allow the user to rate the currently playing song.
[07:41] <bpr> what project should I branch to get started on that?
[08:29] <AAA_awright> Is there some way to change editions, I can't find anything on doing so (as if anyone would ever want to do that!)
[10:15] <trijntje> Hi all, will it be possible to change the order of the default items in the unity bar for natty?
[10:19] <Mkaysi> trijntje: Right click item and choose remove (or add if you are adding item)
[10:21] <trijntje> Mkaysi, I want to move the default 'applications' starter to the top for example, but its not possible to drag them
[10:21] <Mkaysi> Weird. When my Natty was working it was possible.
[10:24] <trijntje> you can move most, but the default ones (apps, places, workspace) cannot be moved
[10:24] <cozziemoto> trijntje,  i find that here as well
[10:25] <cozziemoto> applications and files and folders care interchangeble  but not moveable to the top
[10:25] <cozziemoto> seems applications would be preferred at the top of the stack
[10:26] <trijntje> yes, since thats also where you can trigger the bar to show when an application is full screen
[10:31] <cozziemoto> trijntje,  exactly
[10:31] <cozziemoto> trijntje,  of course , since I prefer cairo dock , I can just set thelauncher  to permanent autohide,
[10:33] <trijntje> i'm not sure that bar is finished yet, I think they keep updating it
[10:33] <cozziemoto> trijntje,  that does sound reasonable :)
[10:33] <trijntje> cozziemoto, I have faith in the developers ;)
[10:43] <cozziemoto> trijntje,  I do as well :)
[11:23] <sagaci> in unity, where are icons read from that display on the left-hand dash?
[11:51] <zniavre_> sagaci, /usr/share/unity/3   ?
[11:51] <zniavre_> or/and /isr/share/unity/themes
[11:52] <zniavre_> isu>usr*
[11:52] <zniavre_> isr**
[11:53] <zniavre_> (if you find the way to modify them .... i will be happy too
[11:56] <sagaci> zniavre_, thanks for your help, it's just that I'd like to add/change the mplayer icon
[11:57] <zniavre_> that is related to your icons theme i think
[11:59] <sagaci> ahh ok, but then how do you add an icon for a specific application... matters are worse that it's primarily a cli application
[12:00] <zniavre_> depends of the application some on /usr/share/pixmaps some other insire /your_icons_theme/apps
[12:00] <zniavre_> inside *
[12:01] <zniavre_> i do not know what is mplayer sorry
[12:03] <sagaci> command line multimedia player
[12:47] <varun_> hi friends,how to know,whether i am fully updated my system or not,other than going to update manager and clicking on check,i am trying the natty alpha 3
[13:07] <sagaci> what was the address line for applications, something like applications://
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:43] <sagaci> hi
[13:43] <coz_> sagaci,  hey
[14:15] <wompydompy> Hi, has anyone succesfully tried to establish a vpn (cisco) connection?
[14:19] <cmyrland> Hi. Has anyone else noticed that the ubuntu-icons are gone? The only icon set that works on here is the default Gnome icon set.
[14:20] <rocky> so on this new unity interface... i have dual displays and the "taskbar" is duplicated across both, anyway to remove the taskbar from the right display?
[14:21] <cmyrland> by taskbar, du you mean the laucnher or the indicators in the top right corner?
[14:21] <cmyrland> do
[14:21] <cmyrland> *
[14:22] <rocky> the grey bar along the top that has the task tray, etc
[14:22] <rocky> also has the menu bar for the active window
[14:25] <cmyrland> so it's duplicated on both screens? Do you use a "streched" desktop or use the 2nd monitor as a "standalone" desktop?
[14:25] <rocky> stretched
[14:29] <cmyrland> have you checked launchpad for bugs? Otherwise, report one
[14:30] <rocky> is it a bug tho? i assumed it was just the standard behaviour to display the top grey bar on both displays
[14:30] <kklimonda> actually I think it's a design decision
[14:31] <rocky> i was just hoping there was a config option to turn one off
[14:31] <rocky> preferably the secondary display
[14:31] <kklimonda> this way we display the global menu on the same monitor the application is on.
[14:32] <rocky> i see... the problem is when i try running a fullscreen opengl app on my secondary display (like i always did) then that app is shifted down because of the menubar which clips the bottom of the app's display a little
[14:32] <kklimonda> well, this is a bug and it's worth reporting
[14:33] <rocky> which issue tracker?
[14:33] <kklimonda> launchpad
[14:34] <rocky> well i meant which project on launchpad do i report the bug against
[14:34] <kklimonda> ubuntu-bug unity will do the right thing
[14:35] <rocky> thanks
[14:58] <mongy> be nice to have a little tooltip when hovering over an 'app avavilable to install'
[14:58] <mongy> saves running usc just to see what it is.
[15:03] <rocky> i find it annoying that everytime i launch a new app, it opens as far right as possible hiding the launcher bar on the left so i have to move that window to get my launcher bar back
[15:07] <penguin42> mongy: Yeh I agree - the names don't tell you much if you didn't know what the app was
[15:08] <mongy> rocky, yeah, its silly that the only app I open is , say, gnome-terminal on my 1920x1080 screen and it thinks it a good idea to hide the launcher :)
[15:10] <rocky> mongy: yeah i'm on a dual 1920x1080 setup so it's doubly annoying to me ;)
[15:11] <mongy> I always end up setting up a lot of apps in place windows compiz plugin
[15:13] <rocky> never used that one
[15:16] <mongy> its not very intuitive tho
[15:16] <mongy> its trial and error for me getting it to open where I want it
[15:17] <mongy> be nice to be able to click the window when I position it and have it enter the values for me :)
[15:22] <mongy> any idea if compiz window previews will ever work with minimised windows?
[15:22] <mongy> I know its a problem to do.
[15:24] <BluesKaj> rocky, right click in the titlebar of the app , choose advanced , special window settings , there you can choose it to remember the position and size etc
[15:24] <BluesKaj> also sepcial applications settings or individual apps
[15:24] <BluesKaj> or=for
[15:28] <rocky> oh cool, thanks
[15:29] <rocky> BluesKaj: i'm not seeing any "advanced" or any sort of items
[15:30] <rocky> just minimize, maximize, etc
[15:30] <mongy> me neither
[15:30] <BluesKaj> rocky, right click in the space on the title bar
[15:30] <BluesKaj> on the border part
[15:31] <BluesKaj> maybe that doesn't work in gnome ...sorry
[15:31] <rocky> i am, no difference... i think i'm not understanding where you're telling me to click lol
[15:31] <rocky> heh
[15:31] <BluesKaj> kde here
[15:32]  * BluesKaj forgets most ppl use gnome ...NM'
[15:33] <mongy> yeah I remember that from kde3.  its a bit much that gnome still doesnt have such a function.  oh well
[15:34] <BluesKaj> bummer :(
[15:35] <rocky> well this is the first time i've ever had such a need for such a feature... and really it's because of a "bug" (imho) that the initial window placement sucks
[15:35] <BluesKaj> kde4.6 is rerally stable on natty , quite surprising actaully , very few probs , just a flash crash now and then
[15:36] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Yeh, I can break the radeon drivers with it reliably, but I don't think that's KDE
[15:37] <BluesKaj> well, some kde integration is required for most browsers , some flash probs could be related to it indirectly'
[15:38] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Well the one I have is that if I play flash full screen and then shift workspace I can reliably screw the radeon driver quite badly
[15:38] <BluesKaj> had flash crashes with FF , but none in chrome ...chrome doesn't integrate with ones desktop settings at all afaik
[15:39]  * BluesKaj nods
[15:40] <penguin42> so that one is KDE specific, and flash specific and radeon specific - but I'm fairly sure it's Radeon driver that's broken
[15:45] <BluesKaj> penguin42, which radeon ?
[15:51] <penguin42> BluesKaj: HD4350 / RV710
[16:08] <BluesKaj> penguin42, is that the updated fglrx driver? Just curious
[16:08] <penguin42> no, the open driver
[16:08] <BluesKaj> ok
[16:45] <phibxr> what is the purpose of the backlight colors in unity?
[16:46] <phibxr> they seem a bit random to me. :P
[16:46] <scarleo> Has anyone succeded in getting multi touch with ALPS touchpad working in Natty?
[16:47] <coz_> hey all
[16:47] <scarleo> I noticed there was much better multi touch with my synaptics anyway, two finger scrolling working great
[16:48] <coz_> cool
[17:22] <kubu2>  kaffeine can't but simple dragon can play mpeg-4?
[17:22] <penguin42> dragon managed to play a .mp4 for me earlier
[17:23] <kubu2> kaffeine can't but others can
[17:23] <kubu2> do you know why not?
[17:27] <kubu2> maverick kaffeine can play but looks like v1.1 in natty can't while vlc, dragon mplayer can.  don't understand
[17:27] <kubu2> is this some copyright issues?
[17:27] <Pici> Have you filed a bug?
[17:28] <kubu2> I tried from konsole but there is no err msg.
[17:29] <kubu2> if it's missing plugins/codec or not but then how could vlc, dragon can if they are missing?
[17:31] <kubu2> is this because  kaffeine is no longer part of the default install?
[17:31] <nerdshell> it's true that Unity will natively mount all Apple devices ?
[17:32] <nerdshell> !unity
[17:33] <nerdshell> it's true that Unity will natively mount all Apple devices ?
[17:33] <penguin42> nerdshell: I don't think unity has anything to do with it mounting Apple devices or not
[17:33] <nerdshell> penguin42: unity is the new desktop manager no?
[17:33] <nerdshell> !nautilus
[17:33] <Daekdroom> Nope.
[17:33] <Daekdroom> It's a desktop shell
[17:34] <Daekdroom> Nautilus is still used.
[17:34] <nerdshell> ah okay, so nautilus will natively mount apple devices or not?
[17:34] <nerdshell> Daekdroom: what's the difference between desktop shell/manager ?
[17:35] <nerdshell> !desktop shell
[17:35] <nerdshell> !Nautilus
[17:37] <akashm1990> I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 with Unity.
[17:37] <akashm1990> Is there any way to get an "actual" desktop? one where I can put files/folders,etc?
[17:38] <penguin42> akashm1990: You can log back into 'classic' gnome
[17:38] <penguin42> akashm1990: Actually, I'm also in Unity (upgraded on 11.04) and it's still showing me folders on my desktop#
[17:40] <akashm1990> penguin42, I Dont really want to get rid of unity, any way to upgrade it to the version on 11.04?
[17:41] <penguin42> akashm1990: Well this channel is about 11.04 - so you could upgrade to 11.04; but remember it's still Beta and it may break horribly
[17:41] <penguin42> pre-Beta
[17:41] <penguin42> akashm1990: To be honest I'm not an expert on Unity either
[17:41] <akashm1990> Thats why I'm not going to 11.04, but I was told to come here for unity help from #ubuntu
[17:43] <BUGabundo> meh
[17:43] <BUGabundo> daily CD is broken
[17:44] <xxx> !logs
[17:44] <BUGabundo> netboot too :\
[17:45] <penguin42> BUGabundo: How was it broken for you? Yesterdays managed to do two installs for me with a bit of a fight
[17:46] <BUGabundo> lucky y
[17:46] <BUGabundo> cd here stops on inicial boot
[17:47] <penguin42> oh
[17:47] <penguin42> only problems I had were GUI related
[17:47] <BUGabundo> and netboot complains of broken packages
[17:47] <BUGabundo> and syslog show a bad parse of natty
[17:48] <SwedeMike> I installed from daily 6 hours ago and it worked.
[17:48] <SwedeMike> amd64
[17:49] <BUGabundo> SwedeMike: http://www.netboot.me/257001
[17:49] <BUGabundo> using this
[17:49] <BUGabundo> netboot.me to boot natty netboot image
[17:49] <SwedeMike> well, no, I used the daily cd installed on a usb stick
[17:50] <BUGabundo> yeah, tried USB too, but wouldn't boot :\
[17:51] <SwedeMike> well, I tried using unetbootin onto a usb stick that already had earlier ubuntu installer on it, didn't work well (got a lot of scrolling text and dropped to busybox), but when I took a fresh usb stick it worked
[17:51] <penguin42> SwedeMike: Me too, but I used 32bit
[17:52]  * penguin42 cleaned his usb stick first
[17:52] <BUGabundo> yeah
[17:52] <BUGabundo> I even used SAFE flash on usb-creator
[17:53] <Gulfstream> the alternative daily ISO from yesterday installed well for me.
[17:53] <BUGabundo> sudo usb-creator-gtk -sni natty-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:07] <Gulfstream> will adding the Unity daily PPA help test Ubuntu or Unity or both?
[18:09] <dubbydubby> hey anyone i am having trouble, I am using the gnome interface i believe and when i compiz --replace the top of all windows disapear
[18:11] <Gulfstream> dubbydubby: compiz --replace should make the tops of the windows reappear. Are you using Unity?
[18:12] <dubbydubby> Gulfstream: not using unity figured it out, compiz is returning : Couldn't activate plugin 'opengl'
[18:13] <Gulfstream> dubbydubby: maybe you should try 'metacity --replace'? I am not sure about that though. Maybe if one of the others could verify that it is safe.
[18:14] <Daekdroom> metacity --replace kills unity
[18:14] <ali1234> actually it kills compiz
[18:14] <ali1234> which in this case isn't working anyway
[18:15] <dubbydubby> problem is after i run any of the --replace commands my terminals become un-usable
[18:15] <ali1234> yeah that will happen with no window manager
[18:16] <Gulfstream> dubbydubby: that happened with me also. Maybe you should use 'alt + F2' to open a command
[18:17] <ali1234> alt+f2 doesn't work with no window manager
[18:19] <dubbydubby> back, had to restart :-/
[18:21] <Gulfstream> dubbydubby: does it work now?
[18:21] <dubbydubby> Gulfstream: I have to somehow re-enable opengl, but i have yet to research how, answer: no
[18:23] <Gulfstream> maybe it is something that a re-install would fix. or maybe even updates.
[18:35] <Gulfstream> has anyone been having problems installing .deb files using the Ubuntu Software Center? I can't install CrossOver or Skype.
[18:46] <Gulfstream> I'm going to see if it works with GDebi
[18:48] <phibxr> does the wine ppa work in natty yet?
[18:51] <Gulfstream> phibxr: I think so
[18:51] <Gulfstream> okay CrossOver and Skype appear to be installing properly with GDebi.
[18:53] <nlsthzn> natty isn't enjoying any games wanting to go full screen is it?! :/
[18:55] <phibxr> Gulfstream, there's a bug open for it with high priority.
[18:56] <Gulfstream> phibxr: I think I might be subscribed to that one.
[18:56] <phibxr> Gulfstream, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/software-center/+bug/712377/
[18:57] <Gulfstream> I didn't see that one...
[19:14] <twager> !nvidia
[19:57] <mongy> radeon driver is a lot slower in natty than mav..
[19:58] <mongy> usually reasonably smooth while watching tv and browsing net and a couple of other apps open...with compiz.  chugging a bit in natty
[19:58] <frith> with ubuntu 2d what is with the bin at the bottom, it doesn't move with the other icons in the sidebar
[20:04] <frith> other than the bin not scrolling unity 2d is better
[20:12] <mongy> oo, didnt realise middleclick/rightclick maximise button did that
[20:14] <RPG-Master> Anyone here having issues with transmission?
[20:16] <ripps> Does anybody know what's wrong with Natty's libglib? It's giving me build errors in one of my ppa's
[20:16] <ripps> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/67425492/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.gmpc_0.20.95~bzr3252~31~4~natty1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[20:23] <yofel> ripps: that's a multiarch package now, the correct path would be /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.la
[20:35] <micahg> ripps: one of your libraries still has dependency_libs in its .la files, that needs to be emptied at build time (see Debian policy 10.2)
[20:35] <micahg> ripps: sorry, dependent libraries
[20:38] <micahg> ripps: it's libmpd, I can upload a fixed version later tonight
[20:39] <BUGabundo> !mysql
[20:39] <BUGabundo> !info mysql
[20:39] <BUGabundo> !search mysql
[20:40] <micahg> ripps: should I subscribe you to the bug so you know when it's fixed?
[20:53] <Barridus> i heard ubuntu is consider/maybe doing? moving from x11 to another desktop engine, will that invalidate existing programs on the repos?
[20:54] <ikonia> not going to happen for a long time
[20:54] <Barridus> but will it?
[20:54] <ikonia> who knows what the future will bring
[20:55] <Barridus> i thought i read somewhere the two were not cross compatible
[20:55] <Barridus> mainly just curious
[20:56] <Omega> Barridus: You are talking about wayland, and it will not invalidate existing programs, X11 can run under wayland
[20:57] <Barridus> ok cool thanks Omega
[20:58] <ikonia> no promise it will happen
[20:59] <ikonia> and if it does, it's a long way off
[21:02] <syn-ack> I can't for Wayland
[21:02] <syn-ack> from all I've read, it's still about a year or two off.
[21:02] <syn-ack> which is just fine for me. I just can't wait to get rid of X
[21:06] <ali1234> X11 apps can run under OS X too, but they are second class citizens - i just hope wayland won't do the same thing
[21:07]  * yofel doesn't care much, he has nvidia and they don't plan to support wayland for years
[21:13] <bjsnider> yofel, nouveau supports it right now
[21:13] <yofel> that doesn't have usable acceleration currently and no vdpau, so I'm not really interested
[21:13] <yofel> I'll see what the future will bring
[21:16] <bjsnider> it has usable accel depending on your luck with the hardware
[21:16] <yofel> well, I'm one of the unlucky ones
[21:16] <RPG-Master> So, I'm the only one with Transmission problems?
[21:19] <bjsnider> RPG-Master, there's an issue with the default blocklist code
[21:22] <ripps> micahg: sorry I was away, I should be building my own libmpd package, using daily-build recipes, is there a fix I should be applying to my recipe
[21:23] <ripps> or do I just need to rebuild it?
[21:23] <micahg> ripps: well, rebuilding is the quick solution, but the real fix is to empty dependency_libs
[21:24] <micahg> ripps: you can take the patch from what I upload if you like
[21:24] <ripps> micahg: sure subscribe me to it :)
[21:26] <ripps> what kind of patch is it? Is it only for the debian pacakging, or is it applied to the source? Because I could pass the patch to gmpc/libmpd's developer
[21:29] <micahg> ripps: yep, just the debian packages
[21:29] <micahg> *packaging
[21:29] <micahg> ripps: I'll forward to Debian as well
[21:31] <RPG-Master> bjsnider: Really? Let me try disabling it...
[21:31] <bjsnider> or you could enter a valid blocklist url
[21:31] <bjsnider> and you can visit the #transmission channel
[21:32] <RPG-Master> I'll do that.
[21:32] <RPG-Master> I just disabled the list and now I'm waiting...
[21:32] <RPG-Master> FIXED!
[21:42] <RPG-Master> bjsnider: Thanks so much man. :)
[21:53] <yofel> does disk_io stats work for anyone in byobu?
[21:58] <Arc> is there a method for upgrading a user directory to use the new gui after a reinstall, when /home is kept?
[22:09] <trism> yofel: yeah it is bugged, readlink doesn't seem to output anything if the file isn't a symbolic link (I don't know if that it correct or not), if you add -f to readlink on line 32 of /usr/lib/byobu/disk_io it seems to work
[22:10] <yofel> aaah, thanks!
[22:24] <frith> will ff4 make it into 11.04?
[22:25] <kklimonda> yes
[22:25] <BUGabundo> its already
[22:25] <BUGabundo> hey kklimonda
[22:25] <kklimonda> o/ BUGabundo
[22:25] <kklimonda> how are you?
[22:25] <frith> i wasn't sure i still have ff4 from 10.10 installed
[22:25] <frith> better purge that off
[22:29] <BUGabundo> I love how pidgin allows me to change my avatar *everywhere*
[22:31] <Daekdroom> BUGabundo, what?
[22:32] <Pici> even on IRC!
[22:32] <BUGabundo> eheh
[22:38] <frith> can i move an icon in the sidebar
[22:46] <mongy> yes
[22:48] <frith> oh if you have a solid colour the desktop switcher looks weird if you have no windows on it
[22:48] <frith> mongy, how?
[22:48] <mongy> click, drag
[22:48] <frith> that just drags everything
[22:49] <mongy> click, drag around other icons.
[22:49] <mongy> in a swirly fashion :)
[22:49] <frith> err
[22:49] <frith> why can't right click have a move option
[22:51] <frith> now the sidebar is stuck there
[22:51] <frith> oh well
[22:58] <mongy> I dont get it.  Drag it out of the bar like you wanna trash it.
[22:58] <mongy> but, keep hold of it, and move it