[02:26] <lisac> um hi
[02:26] <lisac> i had to reinstall
[02:26] <lisac> windows 7
[02:27] <lisac> on my pc... and um
[02:27] <lisac> i dont seem to be able to boot into ubuntu now...
[02:27] <UndiFineD> lisac, try a live cd / install cd
[02:28] <lisac> okay
[02:28] <UndiFineD> you should be able to recover grub, that was overwritten by windows installer
[02:28] <lisac> how O.o
[02:29] <UndiFineD> !recover
[02:29] <ubot2> Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel
[02:29] <UndiFineD> !boot
[02:29] <ubot2> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:29] <UndiFineD> !dualboot
[02:29] <ubot2> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[02:29] <lisac> @_@;
[02:29] <lisac> u're scaring me
[02:29] <UndiFineD> no it is oftenly asked
[02:31] <lisac> 1 sec ill boot onto the cd
[02:46] <lisac> so um the site said to
[02:46] <lisac> do grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[02:46] <lisac> but i get an error O.o
[02:46] <UndiFineD> yes
[02:47] <lisac> huh?
[02:47] <UndiFineD> the /mnt/ needs to be replaces with your path
[02:47] <UndiFineD> most likely /media/329437459020348023
[02:47] <UndiFineD> or whatever the id of the device is
[02:48] <lisac> im confused
[02:48] <UndiFineD> duanedesign, aveilleux am i right ?
[02:48] <lisac> what? O.o
[02:49] <UndiFineD> also, it is not know if /dev/sda is correct
[02:50] <UndiFineD> it points to the actual drive ubuntu is installed upon
[02:50] <lisac> i think its right so far i dide
[02:50] <UndiFineD> often it is /dev/sda
[02:50] <lisac> fdsk -l
[02:51] <lisac> then did mount/dev/sda1 /mnt
[02:51] <lisac> but the step after throws an error
[02:51] <lisac> grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[02:51] <lisac> /usr/sbin/grub-install: line 291: grub-mkdevicemap: command not found
[02:51] <lisac> sed: can't read /mnt//boot/grub/device.map: No such file or directory
[02:51] <lisac> grub-probe: error: Cannot open `/mnt//boot/grub/device.map'
[02:51] <UndiFineD> does /dev/sda1 hold your windows partition or your ubuntu partition
[02:52] <lisac> sda1 holds the ubuntu partiton
[02:52] <UndiFineD> ok that is odd for windows 7
[02:52] <UndiFineD> it very much dislikes not being on the first partition
[02:52] <lisac> oh -_-
[02:53] <lisac> but windows is booting properly O.o
[02:53] <UndiFineD> that is good
[02:53] <UndiFineD> but /dev/sda1 is not alright
[02:53] <aveilleux> UndiFineD: It doesn't matter what partition Windows is on, as long as it's in GRUB
 sed: can't read /mnt//boot/grub/device.map
[02:54] <UndiFineD> it means the file is not there
[02:55] <lisac> im going to hazard thats not very good
[02:55] <UndiFineD> I am going to waste, 4 am
[02:56] <UndiFineD> ls -Al /mnt
[02:56] <lisac> o.o
[02:56] <UndiFineD> see wht is on your /dev/sda1
[02:57] <lisac> everything looks fine the boot folder is there  but not grub o.o
[03:00] <lisac> :/
[03:00] <UndiFineD> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[03:00] <UndiFineD> all i have
[03:00] <UndiFineD> now I must go to sleep
[03:01] <UndiFineD> gn pedro3005
[03:01] <pedro3005> hi UndiFineD
[03:01] <lisac> O.o
[03:03] <lisac> so um
[03:03] <lisac> anybody still here? O.o
[03:04] <old_keyboard> no
[03:04] <lisac> :D
[03:05] <pedro3005> nope
[03:06] <lisac> so um refresher, im booted via usb with  "ultimate boot cd"
[03:06] <lisac> and im trying to get grub 2 back so i can boot back into ubuntu
[03:08] <lisac> so...
[03:08] <lisac> any ideas? O.o
[03:09] <lisac> @_@;
[03:15] <lisac> -.-;
[03:36] <lisac2> uggh nevermind
[03:37] <lisac2> ill just reinstall the whole damn thing
[03:37] <lisac2> yay /s
[05:10] <lookin_for_MB> hi
[05:12] <sagaci> hi
[10:30] <r4y> is there a ubuntu audio channal?
[10:30] <r4y> Sorry I know it should been:
[10:30] <r4y> Is there an Ubuntu audio channel
[10:30] <r4y> but I pronouce Ubuntu incorrect
[10:31] <r4y> It's suppose to be oo-boon-too
[10:31] <r4y> but I pronouce it as you-bun-ta
[10:31] <r4y> so a ubuntu was on my mind as I typed
[10:32] <r4y> I meant you-bun-tu
[10:33] <r4y> oo-boon-too is Afrian meaning something like for the people I think off the top of my head
[10:34] <r4y> OK, so for the reason I came here
[10:34] <r4y> Is this installed? or Does it need to be installed with what I want to do?:
[10:34] <r4y> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/alsa_in.1.html
[10:35] <r4y> I need to give detail about what I am trying to do
[10:35] <r4y> I bought a usb cable called ligthsnake
[10:36] <r4y> it is mono, not stereo
[10:36] <r4y> I got it to work with my guitar finally
[10:37] <r4y> I had read that I would need an amp to hook through through the lightsnake cable
[10:37] <r4y> but I don't have what's needed to do that
[10:38] <r4y> With the help nevyn I was able to get lightsnake working just now with my guitar by routing my guitar through my stereo system through the lightsnake cable into my computer
[10:38] <r4y> thank you nevyn
[10:41] <r4y> I am thinking about using the mic jack to use to hear the guitar while playing through the computer
[10:41] <r4y> I haven't tried that yet though
[10:42] <r4y> nevyn said I might need alsa_in and alsa_out to have 2 sound card working at the same time
[10:43] <r4y> I have ideas I should text out first then I can tell him what happened
[10:43] <r4y> anyways that is all I can think to say
[12:35] <yisas_2011> Hello all, I am currently using ubuntu 9.10 Koala connected with a XGA video projector. I am facing some problems with the twinview: with a XGA connected in twinview configuration as  I cant visualize video on the projector. I get the player window but it only shows black content
[12:35] <yisas_2011> please  help
[17:13] <Fanshawe> I'm up a certain creek here. Ubuntu 10.10 delivers the error, "HD0, msdos1 read error" upon boot.
[17:15] <MrChrisDruif> The what?
[17:15] <Fanshawe> I have absolutely no idea what this means, or what to do with the following 'grub rescue' command prompt.
[17:15] <MrChrisDruif> Fanshawe: were you able to boot to Ubuntu before?
[17:16] <yofel> hm... that sounds like grub can't read the partition table of the first HDD. I have no idea what would cause that though
[17:17] <Fanshawe> MrChrisDruif: Yes. I should explain what happened. Ubuntu 10.10 is on my netbook. It was connected to an external HDD dock via USB. I switched the dock off and there was an immediate crash. The error appeared when I switched it back on.
[17:18] <MrChrisDruif> Fanshawe: Did you try booting with the external HDD dock attached / switched on?
[17:18] <Fanshawe> Yeah. I even went into the BIOS to prioritise that drive, but I don't see how that would help. Ubuntu isn't installed there, it's on a native drive.
[17:19] <Fanshawe> An SSD.
[17:19] <MrChrisDruif> A netbook with a SSD? Good upgrade :)
[17:20] <Fanshawe> I'm not even sure what this error means.
[17:20] <Fanshawe> I assume it was something to do with disk space. It was so strange, an instant crash when a removable device was, well, removed.
[17:21] <MrChrisDruif> Do you have a dualboot Fanshawe?
[17:21] <Fanshawe> No, just Ubuntu 10.10.
[17:23] <MrChrisDruif> GTG
[17:23] <MrChrisDruif> Good luck Fanshawe
[17:23] <Fanshawe> Thank you.
[17:23] <jhanafrog> can you access the drive from a live cd?
[17:23] <MrChrisDruif> Fanshawe: Try searching google with your error, you might find some thread which solved your issue :)
[17:24] <Fanshawe> Will do.
[17:24] <Fanshawe> jhanafrog: I'll try the USB I installed Ubuntu from.
[17:25] <jhanafrog> right, it's a netbook, no live cd, a live usb
[17:25] <jhanafrog> i should just call it a live iso from now on
[17:25] <jhanafrog> heh
[17:25] <jhanafrog> good luck Fanshawe
[17:25] <Fanshawe> Thanks
[17:28] <Fanshawe> Good idea to run memtest?
[17:33] <MrChrisDruif> Fanshawe: How's it going? Dinner is postponed since it wasn't warm :P
[17:33] <Fanshawe> Running memtest right now
[17:35] <MrChrisDruif> Alright...
[17:36] <MrChrisDruif> I saw in one thread that reinstalling solved the problem, but that shouldn't be normal (even thou with most real problems I've got, I reinstall :P)
[17:37] <jhanafrog> reinstalling solving the problem is quite mysterious
[17:37] <jhanafrog> hopefully the hdd isn't going bad
[17:39] <Fanshawe> That's my biggest worry, jhanafrog
[17:39] <Fanshawe> So it boots from the Live CD perfectly. I'm going to try booting from the first disk with the Live CD still present.
[17:41] <Fanshawe> No, grub rescue prompt again. How bizarre.
[17:41] <Fanshawe> Perhaps I should just reinstall?
[17:41] <Fanshawe> To be honest, though, I don't really appreciate system bricking errors with no explanation. Any ideas on what the problem was?
[17:43] <MrChrisDruif> Fanshawe: I never had this issue before, and I don't know of a fix to solve it. I'll keep looking thou
[17:45] <jhanafrog> Fanshawe: what brand hdd?
[17:46] <jhanafrog> 10.10, right?
[17:46] <jhanafrog> i guess the problem is either in grub2, the kernel, not sure what else
[17:47] <MrChrisDruif> Fanshawe: was the dock attached during installation?
[17:47] <Fanshawe> ASUS-PHISON OB SSD?
[17:47] <Fanshawe> and yeah, 10.10
[17:47] <jhanafrog> hmmm, maybe there is something different with the firmware of that SSD
[17:48] <Fanshawe> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/180460?utm_source=google&utm_medium=products
[17:48] <Fanshawe> That's the dock, I was using an IDE drive with it
[17:48] <Fanshawe> for storage, mainly, no system files on there as far as I'm aware
[17:48] <jhanafrog> ignore me, just thinking out loud
[17:49] <jhanafrog> i must misunderstand, i thought you were booting off the internal ssd
[17:49] <MrChrisDruif> jhanafrog: Fanshawe is booting from the internal ssd
[17:50] <Fanshawe> Yes. Hence the confusion when the crash occured. Made absolutely no sense to me.
[17:50] <MrChrisDruif> However, Fanshawe had an immediate crash after turning the dock off
[17:52] <Fanshawe> Right, I'm going to try booting from the live CD and reinstalling the grub
[18:05] <Fanshawe> No dice.
[18:05] <Fanshawe> I looked on my filesystem and the entire partition is 'unknown'.
[18:07] <Fanshawe> I have no idea what to do here, other than to reinstall.
[18:09] <MrChrisDruif> =-O
[18:09] <MrChrisDruif> Got to eat now, but you can't apply a filesystem to it without installing?
[18:24] <Fanshawe> The ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI2 (0,0,0) (sda) failed.
[18:24] <Fanshawe> That's it, I think. Is this a hardware failure I'm looking at?
[18:26] <momono> hi
[18:48] <Fanshawe> Nothing worked yet. Can anybody confirm whether the disk is dead?
[18:49] <kristian-aalborg> it is
[18:49] <kristian-aalborg> ;)
[18:50] <Fanshawe> Really? My laptop bricked, just like that?
[19:00] <jhanafrog> Fanshawe: sorry, i had to plant some dill
[19:01] <jhanafrog> if you couldn't access the hdd from the livecd, or partition, then reinstalling is all i can think of
[19:01] <jhanafrog> would OS did the asus come with?
[19:01] <jhanafrog> can you compare kernel versions?
[19:02] <Fanshawe> The OS was originally an XP machine, but it was completely wiped and loaded with Eeebuntu (or something like that), which I then replaced with Ubuntu.
[19:02] <Fanshawe> 10.04 then 10.10.
[19:02] <Fanshawe> Might have to help me with the kernel.
[19:13] <Fanshawe> Alright, I'm running memtest again.
[19:13] <Fanshawe> And I'm letting it finish.
[19:14] <jhanafrog> i think memtest is for testing ram
[19:14] <jhanafrog> sorry, i had to fill up my bowl Fanshawe
[19:15] <Fanshawe> oh. Then what can I do?
[19:15] <jhanafrog> you can try running fsck from a terminal
[19:15] <jhanafrog> let me see if i have the code for it
[19:16] <jhanafrog> ah, even easier Fanshawe
[19:17] <jhanafrog> run "disk utility" from system > adminstration > disk utility
[19:17] <Fanshawe> Yes
[19:18] <jhanafrog> then click "check filesystem"
[19:18] <Fanshawe> okay, I'll boot the livecd again now
[19:18] <jhanafrog> ok, good luck
[19:22] <Fanshawe> All it returned was, "File system NOT clean."
[19:23] <Fanshawe> jhanafrog: what does that mean?
[19:24] <jhanafrog> wow, that was fast.  i guess it found errors.
[19:24] <jhanafrog> you should run it again, it should attempt to repair the filesystem
[19:25] <Fanshawe> All that happens is that message appears. There's a spinning icon in the background, but I'm not sure whether it's doing anything.
[19:25] <jhanafrog> i dunno, i've never run fsck from the disk utility
[19:25] <jhanafrog> you can try from the command line
[19:25] <jhanafrog> let me see if i can find the command
[19:26] <Fanshawe> It says the device is busy.
[19:26] <jhanafrog> you can read the man page, man fsck
[19:26] <jhanafrog> you're in a live cd and it said it was busy?  you may have to close the "disk utility" app
[19:28] <Fanshawe> It's closed. Same result.
[19:28] <Fanshawe> rebooting and trying again...
[19:28] <jhanafrog> did you mount the file system?
[19:28] <jhanafrog> you're in a livecd right?
[19:29] <jhanafrog> ah, i think the livecd mounts it, you'll have to umount it first
[19:30] <jhanafrog> there is an "unmount volume" button in the "disk utility" program
[19:33] <Fanshawe> Wow.
[19:33] <Fanshawe> Okay, that's really strange.
[19:33] <Fanshawe> Disk utility now says that my disk is free.
[19:33] <Fanshawe> Nothing on it.
[19:33] <Fanshawe> I tried to format it earlier but it didn't work.
[19:34] <Fanshawe> All I can think, is, the drive has now completely failed?
[19:34] <jhanafrog> did you try running fsck to see what it would say?
[19:36] <Fanshawe> Output follows:
[19:37] <Fanshawe> http://pastebin.com/gjw7uQB9
[19:41] <Fanshawe> jhanafrog: still can't install anything on it, no matter what's happened
[19:42] <jhanafrog> i don't know, there may be more options that you can use in fsck Fanshawe
[19:42] <jhanafrog> i'm trying to brush up on it
[19:42] <Fanshawe> Cool. Thank you.
[19:43] <jhanafrog> i've used it before, but i didn't save the command :(
[19:43] <jhanafrog> i have this saved:  sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo reboot
[19:43] <jhanafrog> but i don't know if that will work from a livecd
[19:44] <jhanafrog> it shouldn't make a difference though :|
[19:45] <jhanafrog> oh, yeah, /dev/sda won't work.  there should be /dev/sda1
[19:45] <jhanafrog> or /dev/sda*, if there aren't, then yeah, you need to repartition and format the drive
[19:45] <jhanafrog> so i guess reinstall
[19:47] <Fanshawe> There used to be an sda1, not the partition is gone
[19:47] <jhanafrog> weird
[19:48] <jhanafrog> i dunno what happened.  well, reinstall, and if you can get the kernel from the eeepc linux that was installed
[19:48] <jhanafrog> so that if it happens again we can compare
[19:49] <Fanshawe> Maybe I could try installing the eeebuntu?
[19:50] <jhanafrog> yeah, why not.  whatever works that is foss.  of course, i'd rather get you up with UNR if we can.  it may be prettier, and i don't know if eeepc has repositories set up
[19:50] <jhanafrog> where are you located Fanshawe?
[19:51] <jhanafrog> there may be a LUG or UUG (LoCo) in your area to get synced up with
[19:54] <Fanshawe> http://pastebin.com/jCFPeDdv
[19:54] <Fanshawe> fsck on sda1 ^
[19:55] <Fanshawe> Located? UK.
[19:56] <jhanafrog> check out #ubuntu-uk Fanshawe
[19:58] <Fanshawe> Will do, thanks, jhanafrog.
[20:05] <jhanafrog> how did you run that one Fanshawe?
[20:07] <jhanafrog> when i ran a file system check on my "pen drive" from "disk utility" i got "file system is clean"
[20:08] <jhanafrog> you know, considering it's an ssd it is probably better to reinstall to avoid needless writes to the disk (assuming fsck writes, i don't know)
[20:08] <jhanafrog> and if there isn't data you're retrieving...just reformat
[20:08] <jhanafrog> see if the problem happens again
[20:08] <jhanafrog> ah, ignore me, you're getting help in #ubuntu-uk
[20:09] <jhanafrog> cool!
[20:09] <Fanshawe> No, no, thanks, jhanafrog.
[20:09] <Fanshawe> I am going to try for a full reformat.
[20:09] <jhanafrog> i'm in there too if you want to talk there :)
[20:10] <Fanshawe> Cool, alright.
[21:42] <LukasB> Good morning! What is the command to check the available versions of software for an upgrade?
[21:42] <bioterror>  sudo apt-get update
[21:42] <bioterror> sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:43] <LukasB> bioterror: Cheers, bioterror but I think for that command I need the name of the version I want to get, do I? I am looking for the command that is listing the available versions... But I give it a try
[21:45] <MrChrisDruif> A listing of the available versions?
[21:46] <bioterror> it will list and ask if you want to upgrade ;)
[21:51] <LukasB> hmm...
[21:51] <LukasB> so what do I have to type in to get firefox 4... doesnt work as expected...
[21:51] <MrChrisDruif> :P
[21:51] <MrChrisDruif> LukasB: You'd need to add an PPA
[21:51] <bioterror> you need to install mozilla's daily-beta ppa
[21:51] <LukasB> what?
[21:51] <bioterror> or add
[21:51] <bioterror> yeah
[21:52] <LukasB> oh
[21:52] <MrChrisDruif> Wasn't it this one bioterror? ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
[21:52] <bioterror> yes
[21:53] <MrChrisDruif> LukasB: type in terminal "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[21:53] <MrChrisDruif> Or copy-paste :P
[21:54] <LukasB> now we all know, I am a newbie... Prop thats why in ubuntu-beginners... But anyway, thank you very much. I do as you say MrChrisDruif
[21:54] <LukasB> :D
[21:55] <MrChrisDruif> LukasB: I didn't mean to offend you :)
[21:55] <LukasB> I know!
[21:55] <LukasB> Its all good! Just wanted to make a little joke..
[21:57] <MrChrisDruif> LukasB: Here's how it works; Ubuntu has software in it's repositories and only does security updates to them during a release. If you want from a certain software updated outside of the releases, you need to add Personal Package Archives or PPA's, like FireFox4. And it's alright, I just thought you were serious, hence the apology :D
[22:00] <LukasB> Ah thank you! You know, I use ubuntu for two weeks now and started to work on websites for some reason 7 months ago (drupal) and I am so amazed by this open-source movement and all the great support you get from lovely people!!!But I really rely on you guys...
[22:01] <MrChrisDruif> LukasB: We all started one day, we've been where you are now and help those in need :)
[22:03] <LukasB> It's just awesome! I am happy to help other people as well, but rather in drupal where I already know something and its just nice how it works!
[22:03] <LukasB> Do you know url hunter?
[22:04] <LukasB> probablyinteractive.com/url-hunter
[22:04] <MrChrisDruif> No, I do not I'm afraid :)
[22:04] <LukasB> www.probablyinteractive.com/url-hunter
[22:04] <LukasB> have a look, very creative
[22:06] <LukasB> ah okay, my terminal stopped working by now... what shall i do?
[22:06] <MrChrisDruif> Your terminal stopped working? :-/
[22:06] <MrChrisDruif> It's funny btw that game
[22:07] <LukasB> I think its finished...
[22:11] <LukasB> I restarted firefox
[22:11] <LukasB> It is Namoroka now?
[22:11] <MrChrisDruif> I thought as much :)
[22:12] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know...check the About section I would say :P
[22:13] <LukasB> Yeah it says Namoroka. version 3.6.17pre Mozilla Firefox for Ubuntu canonical - 1.0
[22:14] <LukasB> there is no fox around the globe anymore... just the globe... is that right?
[22:14] <jhanafrog> i thought you wanted ff 4.0?
[22:15] <LukasB> yes i did
[22:15] <MrChrisDruif> He does jhanafrog
[22:15] <LukasB> just typed in what you wrote down :P was I supposed to add something?
[22:16] <jhanafrog> this might help:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/firefox-4-ppa-for-ubuntu-10-04-and-10-10-users/
[22:16] <jhanafrog> ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[22:16] <jhanafrog> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[22:16] <jhanafrog> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:18] <LukasB> before i put in ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
[22:18] <LukasB> and update/upgrade
[22:24] <LukasB> I leave chatzilla to restart firefox... will be back soon
[22:29] <LukasB> I am back. With firefox 4.0 this time... thank you very much!
[22:30] <MrChrisDruif> Your welcome LukasB :)
[22:30] <jhanafrog> where are you located LukasB?  you should try and sync up with your LoCo
[22:31] <LukasB> What do you mean?
[22:32] <MrChrisDruif> Like are you in USA, England, Holland
[22:32] <LukasB> I am in New Zealand at the moment...
[22:33] <MrChrisDruif> jhanafrog tries to motivate you to start helping with your Local Community :)
[22:33] <LukasB> aah :D sync up with LoCo means to meet some people?
[22:34] <MrChrisDruif> Well...first meet up on IRC and forum etc. when there are events you could meet some members of the LoCo
[22:34] <jhanafrog> it's more fun working with other people in a group
[22:35] <MrChrisDruif> jhanafrog: Like UBT ;)
[22:35] <jhanafrog> MrChrisDruif: kind of, UBT isn't in person
[22:35] <jhanafrog> LukasB:  #ubuntu-nz
[22:35] <MrChrisDruif> jhanafrog: UBT is like a LoCo ;)
[22:35] <MrChrisDruif> But then globally :P
[22:36] <LukasB> what is ubt?
[22:36] <MrChrisDruif> Ubuntu Beginners Team :)
[22:38] <MrChrisDruif> It's the team devoted to help everyone who wants to help in the community to get started
[22:38] <jhanafrog> a global LoCo, that's paradoxical :)
[22:38] <LukasB> ah ;) so where are you guys located?
[22:38] <MrChrisDruif> I'm from Holland
[22:38] <jhanafrog> i love paradoxes
[22:38] <jhanafrog> u.s. here, california
[22:39] <jhanafrog> correction, love and hate
[22:40] <LukasB> Holland is cool :) I have been there quite often, as I am German... I like your cities... But I have not been to the US yet, I am sorry...
[22:40] <MrChrisDruif> California, how's the weather there?
[22:40] <MrChrisDruif> Ahh, your German :)
[22:41] <LukasB> Yeah I do a volunteer service down here..
[22:42] <MrChrisDruif> Alright :)
[22:43] <LukasB> Where about are you from in NL?
[22:45] <MrChrisDruif> Zoetermeer :P
[22:46] <MrChrisDruif> LukasB: About the UBT; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam
[22:51] <LukasB> You see, I have been to the campground in Wassenaar last summer. Duindigt...
[22:51] <LukasB> Thanks for that link, I check you link out, later...
[22:51] <LukasB> I got to do some garden work now ;-)
[22:52] <MrChrisDruif> Alright, good luck with the garden :)
[22:53] <LukasB> Thank you very much! See you later!
[22:53] <LukasB> jhanafrog: See you later jhanafrog!
[22:54] <MrChrisDruif> Your welcome LukasB :)
[23:04] <jhanafrog> Luk later dude