[02:31] <jjohansen> DrDetroit: so we don't have a kernel.  Once again the final commit that bisect returns is a house keeping commit that just patches the changelog
[02:31] <DrDetroit> ok
[02:32] <DrDetroit> jjohansen: i think my game plan should now be to return to the 30 kernel since we have not found anything yet
[02:32] <jjohansen> it should be -28 kernel again, I am going to build and have you test with it
[02:32] <DrDetroit> ;ok
[02:32] <DrDetroit> jjohansen: ok, i was going to try and duplicate the issue in the 30 kernel and then file a bug report on it
[02:32] <jjohansen> DrDetroit: sure return to 30 and see if how it behavies
[02:32] <jjohansen> right
[02:32] <jjohansen> give 30 a shot first
[02:33] <DrDetroit> that will save you time in having to do this stuff for me and get no results
[02:33] <DrDetroit> i dont like seeing  you waste your time on me
[02:33]  * jjohansen is not sure why we can't seem to find this with bisecting
[02:33] <DrDetroit> i do appreciate the awesome help
[02:33] <jjohansen> DrDetroit: heh, I don't consider bug hunting a waste of time
[02:33] <DrDetroit> if i do duplicate it, and file a report, can you delete my old report so we dont have two there
[02:34] <jjohansen> DrDetroit: well I can mark it invalid or link the two
[02:34] <DrDetroit> jjohansen: well, I have watched you work you butt off here this past week, I think I will do this tomorrow. I think you should take the rest of the weekend off
[02:34] <DrDetroit> jjohansen: even superman slept
[02:35] <jjohansen> DrDetroit: oh I have slept, I just give the impression of not sleeping, most of my sleep gets broken up into naps
[02:36] <jjohansen> so instead of sleeping for the night, its a couple hour nap here and there
[02:36] <DrDetroit> ;oh
[02:36] <jjohansen> but yeah last week was a long week
[02:36] <DrDetroit> i worked like that 24x7 for 7 years...finally couldn't do it anymore
[02:37] <DrDetroit> i will do the 30 thing later on tonite and tomorrow and will keep you informed. I will hang out here. I have learned a lot working with y ou
[02:37] <jjohansen> yeah, it can wear you down if you are doing it all the time
[02:37] <jjohansen> alright, looking forward to hearing how it works out for you
[02:38] <DrDetroit> thank  you
[02:39] <DrDetroit> i might even try compiling my own kernel (on a test machine)
[02:39] <jjohansen> hehe, its np, and you are welcome :)
[02:40] <jjohansen> and compiling your own kernel sounds like a great idea.  Do you want the link to the how to
[02:40] <DrDetroit> i have been trying to get ubuntu server up and running properly while doing this
[02:40] <DrDetroit> sure
[02:40] <jjohansen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[02:40] <jjohansen> with a larger set of howtos/info https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev
[02:48] <DrDetroit> thanks got them bookmarked
[02:49] <DrDetroit> looks interesting
[09:49] <fairuz> DrDetroit:so will try to compile a kernel then?
[10:08] <DrDetroit> fairuz: probably will do it as a learning experience. I toasted a hd the other day running debian so I will probably try it when i rebuild the machine
[10:18] <jjohansen> DrDetroit: so 30 seems to be working for you
[10:18] <DrDetroit> jjohansen: havent rebooted yet, fell asleep
[10:19] <DrDetroit> I will do that now since I am awake
[10:19] <jjohansen> ah, okay.  Figured I'd ask
[10:20] <DrDetroit> rebooting
[10:25] <DrDetroit> ok will see how this goes now
[10:30] <DrDetroit> ;jjohansen: ok on the 30 kernel, I still get the update manager with updates, plus it wants to update my 29 kernel
[10:30] <DrDetroit> which we already bisected
[10:32] <jjohansen> yeah, well we may have to go through that again, we either missed something or its a heisenbug or some such
[10:33] <DrDetroit> do  you think i should wait on the updates then?
[10:33] <DrDetroit> we didnt let the 29 run as long as the 28 tests
[10:34] <DrDetroit> anways, I will wait on those updates
[10:35] <jjohansen> DrDetroit: hrmm well I don't know at this point it may be worth just doing the update, as if we bisect its going to have to cross through stuff we did last time
[10:35] <jjohansen> so its probably worth having the most up to date stuff at this point
[10:35] <DrDetroit> ok
[10:35] <DrDetroit> will start the update manager again
[10:37] <DrDetroit> jjohansen: 1725 root      30  10 84464  66m 4684 R 84.8 15.2   0:55.37 update-apt-xapi          
[10:38] <DrDetroit> this was still running after I shut down update manager
[10:40] <DrDetroit> ok it stopped