=== smoser` is now known as smoser === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === rsalveti` is now known as rsalveti === thermi is now known as Thermi === IdleOne is now known as Idle0ne === Thermi is now known as thermi === thermi is now known as Thermi === Idle0ne is now known as IdleOne [20:59] o/ [21:00] \m/ [21:00] ok.. [21:00] #startmeeting [21:00] Meeting started at 15:00. The chair is tsimpson. [21:00] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [21:01] [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda [21:01] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda [21:01] zarro boogs [21:01] [topic] Review last meetings action items [21:01] New Topic: Review last meetings action items [21:02] [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCCouncil/TeamReports/11/March [21:02] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCCouncil/TeamReports/11/March [21:03] jussi: did you get anywhere on "[ACTION] jussi to document thoughts on namespace limits"? [21:03] jussi: have you gotten around to documenting the namespace limits? i suppose you've been a bit distracted by travel [21:03] tsimpson: no, Ive been away and barely had time to think- [21:04] I'll put that on the review items for the next meeting then [21:04] thanks [21:05] so eir then [21:05] we have feedback [21:05] I don't think we got any real objection to its using NOTICEs, so that should be ok [21:05] yeah [21:06] I was thinking that, when we enable it, we could use #ubuntu-ops-team for its reporting [21:06] that way it can be done in public, but not have everyone read internal comments etc [21:06] that sounds sane to me [21:06] it does [21:07] it would probably be better than having everything in /msg, as ubottu does now [21:07] Im a bit out of things, what still needs to be done for integration with ubottu? [21:08] mostly some technical issues with getting ubottu to figure out the ban/action ID [21:08] tsimpson: it would be much better, we'd have some "papertrail" even if it's not public [21:08] eir just knows "the last ban from ", but it's a little more complex for ubottu [21:09] I'm working on having ubottu query eir for the ban, then using that to get the ID [21:09] but it's a bit of a pain, especially as our DB is quite large [21:10] Ok. one thing that I do suggest (and Im quite willing to help) is that we make sure the usage is all documented before we implement. [21:10] but it's not impossible, just a bit technical to find the "best" way [21:10] basically what I'm trying to do is, when eir pokes you for a comment in -team, ubottu will pick up the comment that you give to eir [21:11] so you don't have to repeat yourself to ubottu and eir [21:11] sounds good if you can get it working [21:12] it may take some fiddling, eir uses ! for commands, where ubottu uses @ [21:12] but we can mash something together, as !find and !info do now [21:12] ok. [21:13] so in general, we agree that, when ubottu is ready, eir should be added to #ubuntu? [21:13] yes [21:13] yes i support it [21:13] [agreed] eir to be added to #ubuntu once ubottu interoperates with it [21:13] AGREED received: eir to be added to #ubuntu once ubottu interoperates with it [21:14] let's review progress at meetings [21:14] ++ [21:14] [action] progress review for ubottu-eir interoperability at the next meeting [21:14] ACTION received: progress review for ubottu-eir interoperability at the next meeting [21:14] :) [21:14] right :) [21:15] I think that's all the items from the last meeting [21:16] it also completes our agenda :) [21:16] is there anything else anyone wants to discuss? [21:17] oh one thing [21:17] we should ask for ideas for uds [21:18] ah, yes [21:18] jussi: you're going there right? [21:18] I mentioned this in -ops a few days back [21:18] topyli: no idea [21:18] oh [21:18] Lets see if they sponsor me [21:18] there is that [21:19] anyway, an email to the list might be a good idea [21:19] perhaps we should wait until we find out if one of us is going ;) [21:19] i suppose :) [21:20] however, the ideas will probably find a good place somewhere in the community stream even if we didn't have our own sessions [21:20] yeah [21:20] Have either of you applied? [21:20] wiki page + email would be my suggestion [21:20] well I definitely can't go this year [21:21] i haven't applied [21:21] I'm not sure if I'll even be around on irc during UDS [21:21] hopefully, but not sure [21:21] topyli: you have 2 days :) [21:21] oh that's plenty! :) [21:22] but yes, I agree with tsimpson - wiki + email should do it [21:22] topyli: http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/02/23/ubuntu-developer-summit-sponsorship-now-open/ [21:22] who wants to set that up? [21:23] * tsimpson gets @random ready [21:23] @random elky nhandler tsimpson topyli jussi [21:23] tsimpson [21:23] bad bot! [21:23] ha [21:23] I guess I'll do that then... [21:23] * tsimpson makes a note to blacklist "tsimpson" from @random ;) [21:24] I can help out. (you can be responsible) [21:24] yeah you can write a draft and we'll chip in [21:24] there was also #ubuntu-helpteam before I forget again [21:24] it's unused [21:25] and should be closed/forwarded somewhere useful [21:25] drop it. [21:25] @random drop close forward [21:25] drop [21:25] haha [21:25] the bot agrees, it shall be done [21:26] anyone want to do that one? [21:26] I gues just idle there a few weeks as to make sure someone doesnt pick it up [21:26] I can [21:26] I've been idling there for a couple of months... [21:26] I just keep forgetting to bring it up [21:27] anyway, Im on it [21:27] i don't really know how to drop channels :) [21:27] sounds like a technical thing! [21:27] topyli: /msg chanserv drop #channel [21:27] :P [21:27] oh [21:28] we'd want to get staff to do it for us though, we aren't +F [21:28] and to give you an idea of how unused it is, it has a link for 8.10 in the topic.. [21:28] action nhandler then? [21:28] [action] jussi to get staff to drop #ubuntu-helpteam [21:28] ACTION received: jussi to get staff to drop #ubuntu-helpteam [21:28] action completed :) [21:29] heh [21:29] anything else now that's done? [21:29] [action] Jussi to go to bed. [21:29] :P [21:30] is there something we should do publicly about the rubbish channels? [21:30] we were going to mention dropping other channel right? [21:30] yeah [21:31] ahh, yes. [21:31] We should probably mail the list about that [21:31] all the obviously off-topic and unused ones should probably just be dropped [21:32] we can compile a list of the others and attempt do do something sensible with them [21:32] are there a lot of channels we're uncertain about? [21:32] uncertain? [21:32] whether they're useful or not [21:33] well the ones with freenode-staff as founder need sorting [21:33] and there are a *lot* of channels to look through [21:34] I would think that if the channel is active and has FS as founder, then need to sort. otherwise, just get them dropped. [21:34] we need to go through the list and weed them out, that's going to take some time though [21:35] and it's not something I'd like to action to one person ;) [21:35] i wonder if we can get help from ops [21:35] nobody probably *wants* to :) [21:36] we can just work our way through them, marking the ones that need dropping, and batch the drops [21:36] then go into details of in-use channels later [21:37] i suppose it'll be done sooner or later if we get to it [21:37] I think thats the best way [21:37] We have the document with the list already, so just to start marking them [21:37] yeah [21:38] my new hobby! [21:38] lol [21:38] [action] IRCC to drop unused and off-topic channels, and contact other channels with freenode-staff as founder [21:38] ACTION received: IRCC to drop unused and off-topic channels, and contact other channels with freenode-staff as founder [21:38] excellent :) [21:39] I think that really is all this time [21:40] alright. thanks guys [21:40] [action] tsimpson to do post-meeting tasks [21:40] ACTION received: tsimpson to do post-meeting tasks [21:41] #endmeeting [21:41] Meeting finished at 15:41. [21:42] thanks lads! === doko_ is now known as doko [22:32] gn8 === Thermi is now known as thermi