[00:00] <old_keyboard> lol ofc
[00:00] <aliverius> is it possible that many pcs access the same nfs share withou;side effects?
[00:00] <old_keyboard> but those ntp servers are accurate.
[00:00] <qman__> aliverius, that's sort of the entire point of nfs
[00:01] <aliverius> great cause i need to  share data between a kvm host and guest
[00:09] <old_keyboard> qman__: I just dont understand why ntpd listen at UDP port 123
[00:10] <old_keyboard> to get time (duh)?
[00:10] <old_keyboard> I dont to run it as a server
[00:10] <old_keyboard> dont want
[00:11] <qman__> ntpd serves time on that port
[00:11] <qman__> if you don't want others accessing it, block it in your firewall
[00:11] <old_keyboard> but i dont want to serve
[00:11] <old_keyboard> I did.
[00:12] <old_keyboard> qman__: so I can use my machine as server even that i get that time from other sv?
[00:12] <qman__> that's how ntp works
[00:12] <qman__> you get time from class 2, 3, 4 servers depending on your configuration
[00:13] <qman__> your ntpd then becomes one class above that
[00:13] <old_keyboard> nice :)
[00:14] <old_keyboard> but there should be an option to listen
[00:14] <qman__> and each link in the daisy chain is one class higher, until 16
[00:14] <old_keyboard> :x
[00:14] <qman__> 16 is considered totally unreliable
[00:14] <old_keyboard> to close listen port
[00:14] <old_keyboard> i meant
[00:14] <old_keyboard> yeh
[00:15] <qman__> most people who run ntpd run it to provide network time
[00:15] <qman__> as ntpdate is good enough for 99%
[00:15] <old_keyboard> i run it to get time
[00:15] <old_keyboard> :p
[00:15] <qman__> the other 1% can block it in the firewall
[00:15] <old_keyboard> k
[00:18] <Patrickdk> hmm, the default ntp config doesn't serve time
[00:19] <qman__> IIRC, it doesn't serve time, but it still listens on the port
[00:19] <qman__> and simply rejects any requests
[00:19] <Patrickdk> ya, cause port 123 is much more than just receive/send time
[00:19] <Patrickdk> it's also the control interface and stuff
[00:20] <Patrickdk> if your paranoid about it listening on port 123, use ntpdate
[00:20] <old_keyboard> Patrickdk: :D
[00:20] <Patrickdk> just make sure you script it properly
[00:20] <old_keyboard> no im paranoid
[00:20] <old_keyboard> i just block 123 port
[00:20]  * Patrickdk runs a pool server :)
[00:21] <old_keyboard> Patrickdk: if default ntp config doesnt act as server there's not secutiry risk then
[00:21] <Patrickdk> I dunno what happened, but been getting flooded with ntp requests from china for the last month
[00:21] <Patrickdk> there is always a security risk
[00:21] <Patrickdk> and it does act as a server
[00:21] <old_keyboard> ddos
[00:21] <Patrickdk> just cause it doesn't respond
[00:21] <Patrickdk> doesn't mean someone won't find a vaunerability
[00:21] <old_keyboard> ok
[00:22] <Patrickdk> it's just the likelyhood is even less
[00:22] <old_keyboard> thanks for clarifying my doubts
[00:23]  * Patrickdk has never been scared though of it
[00:23] <old_keyboard> config shows
[00:23] <old_keyboard> # By default, exchange time with everybody, but don't allow configuration.
[00:24] <Patrickdk> hmm?
[00:24] <old_keyboard> restrict -4 default kod notrap nomodify nopeer noquery
[00:24] <old_keyboard> ./etc/ntp.conf
[00:24] <Patrickdk> noquery makes it not let other people request time
[00:24] <old_keyboard> restrict 127.0.0.1
[00:24] <old_keyboard> only at localhsot right
[00:24] <Patrickdk> allow everything on localhost
[00:24] <old_keyboard> oh
[00:25] <old_keyboard> # Local users may interrogate the ntp server more closely.
[00:25] <old_keyboard> and how I do that?
[00:25] <Patrickdk> http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Support/AccessRestrictions
[00:25] <Patrickdk> you want to allow local access?
[00:25] <old_keyboard> no just get time
[00:25] <Patrickdk> restrict 192.168.0.0/16 default nomodify notrap nopeer
[00:26] <old_keyboard> Patrickdk: ok it means that i can access it from subnet
[00:26] <Patrickdk> oh that isn't right
[00:26] <old_keyboard> # If you want to provide time to your local subnet, change the next line. # (Again, the address is an example only.) #broadcast 192.168.123.255
[00:26] <Patrickdk> restrict 192.168.0.0 mask 255.255.0.0 notrap nopeer nomodify
[00:26] <Patrickdk> is what I'm using
[00:27] <old_keyboard> 0.0?
[00:27] <Patrickdk> hmm, ya
[00:28] <old_keyboard> should I  disable restrict 127.0.0.1 restrict ::1
[00:28] <old_keyboard> ?
[00:28] <old_keyboard> with #
[00:28] <Patrickdk> why?
[00:28] <old_keyboard> i dont want anyone to access it
[00:28] <Patrickdk> you don't trust your own machine it's running on?
[00:28] <old_keyboard> :)
[00:28] <Patrickdk> if you do, ntpq and stuff won't work
[00:28] <old_keyboard> ah k
[00:29] <Patrickdk> you could always password restrict it
[00:29] <old_keyboard> Patrickdk: restrict -4 default kod
[00:30] <old_keyboard> -4 is for ipv4?
[00:30] <Patrickdk> ya
[00:30] <old_keyboard> and default and kod?
[00:30] <Patrickdk> kiss of death
[00:30] <Patrickdk> it won't do really anything, without the limit option
[00:30] <Patrickdk> not sure about default :)
[00:30] <Patrickdk> never really use it myself
[00:30] <old_keyboard> default is to listen all adresses maybe
[00:31] <Patrickdk> no
[00:31] <old_keyboard> OH
[00:31] <old_keyboard> By default, exchange time with everybody, but don't allow configuration.
[00:31] <old_keyboard> so if i want to configure need to remove default
[00:31] <old_keyboard> Patrickdk: so i just need restrict 192.168.0.0 mask 255.255.0.0 notrap nopeer nomodify
[00:32] <old_keyboard> and to open 123 port in router?
[00:32] <Patrickdk> if your subnet uses 192.160.x.x
[00:32] <old_keyboard> and soft firewall
[00:32] <Patrickdk> 192.168.x.x
[00:32] <old_keyboard> yea
[00:32] <old_keyboard> got it
[00:33] <old_keyboard> Patrickdk: and i only want the router
[00:33] <old_keyboard> I put its IP?
[00:33] <Atomhunter> Hey how do you select multiple software packages to install when installing ubu server?
[00:33] <old_keyboard> restrict 192.168.1.69 mask 255.255.0.0 notrap nopeer nomodify
[00:34] <old_keyboard> for example
[00:34] <old_keyboard> ?
[00:36] <Patrickdk> why the odd restrict ip?
[00:37] <old_keyboard> Patrickdk: if router is 192.168.0.1
[00:37] <old_keyboard> I use that IP?
[00:38] <old_keyboard> why did u use 0.0 as example?
[00:38] <old_keyboard> is it like wildcard?
[00:38] <Patrickdk> cause anything that is a 0 in the netmask is pointness to define in the ip
[00:38] <Patrickdk> and lots of programs will bomb out if you do
[00:38] <old_keyboard> bomb out?
[00:38] <Patrickdk> cause mine was *correct* and yours is, odd :)
[00:39] <Patrickdk> crash, syntax error, fail, ...
[00:39] <old_keyboard> Patrickdk: i just want the router to access the sv
[00:39] <old_keyboard> so i just put router ip
[00:39] <old_keyboard> is that correct?
[00:39] <Patrickdk> NO
[00:39] <old_keyboard> or i use my local ip
[00:39] <old_keyboard> ?
[00:40] <Patrickdk> NO
[00:40] <old_keyboard> NO
[00:40] <Patrickdk> learn how ip subnets work
[00:40] <old_keyboard> tell me teacher
[00:40] <Patrickdk> google, ip subnet
[00:40] <old_keyboard> :D
[00:41]  * old_keyboard reading in is native language
[00:43] <old_keyboard> Class C
[00:44] <old_keyboard> B in that case
[00:44] <Patrickdk> ignore anything talking about classes
[00:44] <old_keyboard> B 	10 	128.0.0.1 	191.255.255.254 	255.255.0.0 	/16
[00:45] <old_keyboard> it's kinda advanced
[00:48] <old_keyboard> Patrickdk: I found this config on a site http://forums13.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?admit=109447627+1301185010084+28353475&threadId=1357094
[00:48] <old_keyboard> restrict default ignore restrict 127.0.0.1 restrict your.ntp.server
[00:51] <old_keyboard> and in here http://www.debianadmin.com/ntp-server-and-client-configuration-in-debian.html they say to use restrict 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 nomodify notrap
[00:52] <Patrickdk> man, you really can't be bothered to learn what anything does?
[00:52] <Patrickdk> just blindly follow whatever anything tell you to do?
[00:53] <old_keyboard> i am learning
[00:53] <old_keyboard> you say something other ppl say something different
[00:53] <old_keyboard> :)
[00:53] <Patrickdk> I told you exactly what you wanted
[00:54] <Patrickdk> those are generic
[00:54] <Patrickdk> and the first one has nothing to do with anything you want
[00:54] <old_keyboard> ok
[00:54] <old_keyboard> restrict 192.168.0.0 mask 255.255.0.0 notrap nopeer nomodify
[00:54] <Patrickdk> you could remove the nopeer if you want
[00:54] <old_keyboard> gonna get hacked :(
[00:55] <Patrickdk> why?
[00:55] <old_keyboard> what is the nopeer
[00:55] <old_keyboard> option
[00:55] <old_keyboard> no connections?
[00:55] <Patrickdk> you shouldn't allow anyone using a 192.168.x.x network range on your network
[00:55] <Patrickdk> it's for when two ntp servers agree to talk to each other
[00:55] <Patrickdk> they can use each other as clients or servers
[00:55] <old_keyboard> so i remove that I could mess it up
[00:56] <Patrickdk> no
[00:56] <old_keyboard> hm
[00:56] <old_keyboard> ok
[00:56] <Patrickdk> it means another ntp server on your network could become the source of time
[00:56] <Patrickdk> and if that person is screwing with you
[00:56] <Patrickdk> could theoredically cause your server to get bad time
[00:57] <old_keyboard> nice
[00:58] <old_keyboard> Patrickdk: and restrict 127.0.0.1 is for unlimited access
[00:58] <old_keyboard> ?
[02:00] <Patrickdk> ya
[02:00] <old_keyboard> see i've learned something new today
[02:01] <old_keyboard> then sudo service ntp restart
[02:02] <old_keyboard> Patrickdk: what about the -4 and -6 should I remove it?
[02:02] <Patrickdk> doubt it matters, dunno
[02:02] <old_keyboard> doesnt make a difference since i only use ipv4
[02:02] <Patrickdk> I haven't bothered
[02:02] <old_keyboard> k
[02:03] <Patrickdk> the ORDER in the file matters a LOT though
[02:03] <old_keyboard> k
[02:03] <old_keyboard> i comment out those 2 lines and add restrict 192.168.0.0 mask 255.255.0.0 notrap nomodify
[02:04] <Patrickdk> so now your open to everyone?
[02:04] <old_keyboard> not yet
[02:04] <Patrickdk> well, if you commented out the restrict default lines
[02:04] <old_keyboard> but added restrict 192.168.0.0 mask 255.255.0.0 notrap nomodify
[02:04] <Patrickdk> just add the restrict 192.168.0.0 line AFTER those
[02:04] <old_keyboard> #restrict -4 default kod notrap nomodify nopeer noquery #restrict -6 default kod notrap nomodify nopeer noquery
[02:05] <Patrickdk> ya, so now since no one is restricted by default :)
[02:06] <old_keyboard> gonna get hax00red
[02:07] <Patrickdk> or maybe it doesn't
[02:07] <Patrickdk> but that never opened it up for me
[02:07] <Patrickdk> probably have lots of other things going on with my config, cause it's a few hundred lines long
[02:08] <old_keyboard> so im open to my subnet
[02:08] <old_keyboard> and the rest of the world if i forward port in router
[02:08] <old_keyboard> ?
[02:12] <old_keyboard> all the options here http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/accopt.html
[02:35] <shaggy2> hello people. I need assistance with changing the IP addess of my ubuntu server, I have obtained a seet of ip's from my isp and have them running on the network, I just checked the ip of the server and it's still runing the old one, how to I change it?
[02:36] <Atomhunter> that is a google-able question
[02:36] <shaggy2> the current ip is 192.168.0.8 and I need to change it to *.*.*.139 (the * rep the puplic ip)
[02:36]  * patdk-lap still doesn't get why people bother hiding ip addresses
[02:36] <patdk-lap> they are *public* knowledge, and of a small enough space to *guess*
[02:37] <shaggy2> so I can't help on this item in the ubuntu-server HELP channel?
[02:37] <old_keyboard> use a VPN
[02:37] <patdk-lap> technically, the answer is simple, edit /etc/network/interfaces
[02:37] <shaggy2> last time i sent a public ip here I ended up with DOS attacks
[02:37] <patdk-lap> but the question you didn't ask, and can't do much about really is
[02:37] <patdk-lap> you have to change the config of all your programs also
[02:38] <shaggy2> that I can get help from the program website, as it's one master program that changes everything, just wont do the eth ip
[02:38] <patdk-lap> they overloaded your internet connection?
[02:39] <shaggy2> yes
[02:40] <shaggy2> ok it seems that the ip address is obtained automaticly, how do I do a release renew in ubuntu-serer?
[02:40] <shaggy2> the interface is eth1
[02:41] <patdk-lap> you run a server via dhcp?
[02:41] <shaggy2> I set static via the router. but I need to get the ip on the server first
[02:41] <shaggy2> it hasn't failed me yet
[02:42] <Atomhunter> ifconfig -a will show you its address
[02:42] <patdk-lap> does the router have a public ip?
[02:42] <patdk-lap> and it's going route that public ip into the same network your mixing private ip?
[02:42] <patdk-lap> and you have no issue with that?
[02:43] <Atomhunter> i don't know if he realizes the issue....
[02:43] <shaggy2> all devs on my network will be running the public ip addresses
[02:43] <shaggy2> I have firewalls on all systems
[02:44] <Atomhunter> *facepalms hard*
[02:44] <shaggy2> are firewalls not good enough
[02:44] <Atomhunter> no, you want to subnet public from private
[02:45] <shaggy2> how do I do that?
[02:45] <Atomhunter> what type of routers do you have?
[02:45] <shaggy2> netgear
[02:45] <patdk-lap> model numbers :)
[02:45] <shaggy2> dg834g
[02:45] <shaggy2> but it will be changing
[02:45] <Atomhunter> serial numbers...
[02:46] <shaggy2> u need that for?
[02:46] <patdk-lap> oh, home system crap
[02:46] <shaggy2> you cant get the info on the model?
[02:46] <Atomhunter> nvm.... I didn't realize that was model...
[02:46] <Atomhunter> yea... your need more commerical system... I'm using a home system netgear... so wish i could stick a different firmware on it
[02:46] <shaggy2> I can get the serial number if you need it
[02:47] <Atomhunter> no need
[02:47] <shaggy2> ok recomend?
[02:49] <Atomhunter> something you can flash pfsense onto...
[02:52] <Atomhunter> yeah I can't recommend somethign... I'm only a security student atm...
[02:52] <shaggy2> oh ok. sorry guys I am new to this type of networking
[02:53] <Atomhunter> get shoved into a sys admin role?
[02:54] <shaggy2> not really, I am starting a hosting company, so learning on the fly BEFORE I get customers
[02:55] <Atomhunter> ooohhh... erm... whats your computer knowledge?
[02:55] <DrDetroit> shaggy2: how are you connected to your isp? dedicated line?
[02:55] <shaggy2> 2 decicated lines
[02:55] <DrDetroit> ok
[02:56] <DrDetroit> Just configure each machine on your network with a different ip from the range you have been assigned
[02:56] <shaggy2> I have 2 ADSL2+ connections atm, first in line when fiber comes into my town (if your from australia then you'll know what I am on about if not the lookup the Australian NBN)
[02:57] <DrDetroit> haha i live in Arkansas, we just retired the  tin can and string
[02:57] <DrDetroit> I assume you have a router on each line
[02:57] <shaggy2> so on a system that I don't want on the public network, I just set for eg 192.168.0.3 on the same subnet as the public systems?
[02:57] <Atomhunter> i live in south dakota... we still have pony express
[02:57] <DrDetroit> router---->main box----->switch---->rest of the boxes
[02:58] <DrDetroit> the main box can do  your firewalls and nat
[02:58] <Atomhunter> *cough* pfsense
[02:58] <DrDetroit> hehe ok
[02:58] <DrDetroit> i will be quiet now
[02:59] <Atomhunter> oh hey... keep going :_
[02:59] <Atomhunter> I was just suggesting using pfsense
[02:59] <shaggy2> both modem are going into a linux box that goes to a router all in the main room, then in my server room trunk cable (5 line) into a switch then into 3 systems and a server
[03:00] <DrDetroit> sounds like you know what your doing, I will be quiet
[03:00] <shaggy2> everything runs from the main modem, the 2nd only kicks on on reduncy
[03:01] <Atomhunter> make sure to test that it'll kick in aka unplug the main, so you don't discover its not working
[03:01] <shaggy2> already done, I do a weekly test
[03:02] <shaggy2> the router after the linux box in the dg834g
[03:02] <DrDetroit> I run my network as i showed above
[03:02] <Atomhunter> i'll be quite now too... look up some linux sys admin/network admin books if you need to look into subnetting and stuff
[03:02] <DrDetroit> my main box has the public ip the rest are private
[03:02] <DrDetroit> main box does firewall, nat, web and mail but mostly just tosses packets around
[03:02] <shaggy2> well thats how I had it before, but had to make changes so I can run a DNS server
[03:02] <Atomhunter> mine is schools network -> crapy router -> switch -> boxes
[03:02] <shaggy2> that is what got me unstuck
[03:02] <DrDetroit> just put the dns server on the main box also
[03:03] <shaggy2> I could view all domians on my network, but the people that was outside couldn't get to see them cause it was directing to local address's
[03:03] <old_keyboard> 123/tcp closed ntp
[03:04] <old_keyboard> shouldn't it respond as open
[03:04] <old_keyboard> ?
[03:04] <DrDetroit> if you are hosting other folks then i would assume you would have those boxes with public ip's also
[03:04] <DrDetroit> so that they can get to them
[03:04] <shaggy2> well I only had 1 pub ip untill today
[03:04] <DrDetroit> still the configuration i gave you will do that too
[03:04] <DrDetroit> nod
[03:05] <shaggy2> so anyways back to changing the ip on the ubuntu server
[03:05] <shaggy2> I can manualy set it
[03:05] <DrDetroit> sure
[03:05] <shaggy2> just need someone to tell me how
[03:05] <patdk-lap> this is much more of an issue than that
[03:06] <patdk-lap> you need to resign your whole network
[03:06] <DrDetroit> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/
[03:06] <patdk-lap> and I don't think that *router* you have will let you do it
[03:06] <shaggy2> well this is the only thing that "NEEDS Static"
[03:07] <shaggy2> it's allready done, I was on the phone with netgear support for 3 hours having them telling me that it wont do it, and then after 3 hours saying do this and this and this and now it works
[03:07] <DrDetroit> dont forget to make a backup before you edit the file
[03:07] <shaggy2> paid them $89.95 for them to tell me to buy a new mobem, only to then turn around after abusing them then it now works
[03:08] <DrDetroit> my advice is worth what you paid for it
[03:08] <DrDetroit> hehe
[03:08] <DrDetroit> take a look at that artice, it should fix you up
[03:08] <shaggy2> sweet thank you, but how do I make a backup of that file?
[03:09] <Atomhunter> hey how can i see if my raid is mounted or not?
[03:09] <DrDetroit> cp filename filename.original
[03:09] <DrDetroit> also make sure you look at the comment from
[03:10] <DrDetroit> Nickname007 and do that too
[03:10] <KMFrog> could also set static dhcp per mac
[03:10] <DrDetroit> otherwise you wont have any name resolution
[03:10] <DrDetroit> hope that helps
[03:11]  * patdk-lap still wonders how using a static ip inside the nat part of that router will work
[03:16] <KMFrog> shaggy2 you hosting webservers?
[03:19] <DrDetroit> shaggy2: if your changes dont work you can always cp filename.original filename and be back where you started
[03:23] <Atomhunter> formatting my server's 1.5tb raid... zeroing... omg... so much time...
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> What does the automatic generation of /etc/ssl/private/dovecot.pem?
[05:10] <lookin_for_MB> hi
[05:11] <lookin_for_MB> Do you know a good website to search mother board model?
[05:17] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #683591 in sensors-applet (universe) "sensors-applet randomly picks up duplicates" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683591
[05:17] <lookin_for_MB> hm
[05:35] <jmarsden> tonyyarusso: The postinst maintainer script in the dovecot-common package
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> jmarsden: Ah.  Is there an easy way to re-run it (to change the hostname), or do I have to walk through things manually?  (The primary system hostname is johnmarty.org, but I want Dovecot's certificate for mail.johnmarty.org)
[05:37] <jmarsden> I'm not sure.  Look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/.dovecot-common.postinst and maybe you can copy it somewhere, edit that script to do just the certificate generation, and run your modified copy?
[05:38] <tonyyarusso> seems reasonable
[05:38] <jmarsden> Make that   /var/lib/dpkg/info/dovecot-common.postinst
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> jmarsden: I ended up having to do a bit more than that, but got it now.
[07:42] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #743484 in nut (main) "libupsclient.pc contains unresolved symbols" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/743484
[09:46] <shaggy2> hello
[09:46] <shaggy2> anyone know anything about frame routes. or where I can get help
[10:08] <shaggy2> Atomhunter: are you there?
[10:09] <DrDetroit> shaggy2: how did changing to a fixed ip go?
[10:10] <shaggy2> not goot
[10:10] <shaggy2> all ips are done
[10:10] <DrDetroit> why?
[10:10] <shaggy2> but my router dun support framed routes
[10:10] <shaggy2> fucken netgear
[10:10] <DrDetroit> ah
[10:10] <shaggy2> lookin for a decent router that will do it, was pointed at cisco
[10:11] <shaggy2> it's a shame
[10:11] <shaggy2> the netgear dg834g has been in use for about 4 years now across heaps of different isp's, and this is the first time it hasn't been able to do something
[10:12] <DrDetroit> sorry to hear that
[10:12] <shaggy2> it is gunna be a sad day to see it go
[10:12] <shaggy2> never missed a beat
[10:13] <air^> no matter how good it was, it's no good once it fails to keep up. :)
[10:13] <shaggy2> had a problem connecting once my ISP said I need a new modem, I said no check everything else first, thats when they found out the my line was pulled from the ADSL socket in the exchange
[10:14] <shaggy2> how dodgy is that
[10:16] <shaggy2> so can anyone recomend a router for me
[10:17] <DrDetroit> cant your isp recommed what you should be using?
[10:18] <air^> shaggy2: so, you'r looking at an adsl modem + router combined?
[10:18] <shaggy2> yeah
[10:18] <air^> I've never liked that combo, rather have a bridged adsl modem than wont messup + standalone router.
[10:19] <shaggy2> dun have to be, I do have a dlink adsl2+ that I can use
[10:19] <air^> currently I use a bridged zyxel + apple's time capsule, howeverm the timecapsule is not that great.
[10:20] <air^> the bridged zyxel on the other hand doesn't fuck up. it just does it's thing. :)
[10:20] <shaggy2> cool
[10:21] <shaggy2> I just need something that supports framed routes... I have never played with this before so it's all new to me
[10:21] <air^> (this is the cheapest basic version of the zyxel adsl modem, just one port in, one out, and in bridged mode, basically all it's features are disabled and can't break)
[10:22] <air^> but I know nothing about framed routes, so can't recommend anything there. :/
[10:22] <shaggy2> lol same with my ISP who sell them
[10:24] <air^> afk. gott go get my house built. :)
[10:24] <shaggy2> lol
[10:24] <air^> seriously.
[10:24] <air^> it ain't gonna build itself. :)
[10:31] <shaggy2> lol
[10:38] <kickar> hey guys, i am having a bit of a problem with apache displaying php errors in browser, I have set my my php.ini varialbles to display errors
[10:56] <lenios> what's the problem kickar ?
[10:56] <kickar> lenios,  hi, I can't get php error message displayed in browser
[10:56] <kickar> if there is an php error i get either plain white screen either
[10:56] <kickar> "The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an invalid or unsupported form of compression."
[10:59] <KMFrog> kickar what browser
[11:00] <kickar> KMFrog,  every well know browser
[11:00] <kickar> IE, Mozilla, CHrome
[11:00] <KMFrog> they all say that exact thing?
[11:00] <kickar> yes error 330 Error content decoding failed
[11:01] <kickar> on my gentoo machine displayes mysql conn. error
[11:01] <kickar> i believe it is php/apache related issue
[11:01] <KMFrog> can you wget / telnet it to see the raw output?
[11:02] <kickar> KMFrog,  yes I can
[11:02] <kickar> it says "Warning: mysql_connect(): Unknown MySQL server host 'http' (1) in /var/www/qa-db.php on line 50"
[11:02] <KMFrog> you doing your own compression?
[11:03] <KMFrog> in php
[11:03] <kickar> i have tried to install a cms
[11:04] <kickar> have you seen that before
[11:04] <KMFrog> ah, ok, CMS is maybe trying to do its own gzip compression and its all failing because of the error
[11:04] <KMFrog> you will need to remove the http:// from your config i would guess by that message
[11:04] <KMFrog> if its http://localhost it needs to be localhost
[11:04] <KMFrog> for the db address
[11:05] <kickar> KMFrog,  i am not trying to fix this particular issue, I am trying to get apacge to show
[11:05] <kickar> the error in browser
[11:05] <KMFrog> the CMS probably says its a compressed page, but then the error is in plaintext so the browser dies
[11:07] <kickar> it is the same on the test script that i wrote
[11:08] <kickar> KMFrog,  do you have any idea?
[11:09] <KMFrog> fixing the mysql error
[11:09] <kickar> I mean at all
[11:09] <kickar> check http://otgovorimi.com
[11:09] <kickar> this is the ubuntu server
[11:10] <kickar> this is the gentoo machine
[11:10] <kickar> http://dhwebservices.com/web/
[11:11] <kickar> it is the same script
[11:12] <shauno> oh that's odd.  your first url has something in the first four bytes which kills my browser
[11:13] <kickar> shauno,  they are the same script
[11:13] <kickar> the first is ubuntu server
[11:13] <kickar> the second one is gento
[11:13] <kickar> gentoo*
[11:13] <shauno> the good page starts ef bb bf  .. and then into the html.  the bad one has an extra byte, ef bb bf 0a ...
[11:14] <kickar> shauno,  maybe I have miskaten something in php / apache configuration
[11:15] <kickar> KMFrog,  welcome back
[11:15] <KMFrog> srry, client died -_-
[11:15] <kickar> did you get my last 2 lines ?
[11:15] <kickar> ubuntu server: http://otgovorimi.com
[11:15] <kickar> genoo server: http://dhwebservices.com/web/
[11:15] <kickar> the same script
[11:15] <kickar> the same error
[11:15] <shauno> oh, 0a's just a linefeed.  I've no idea why that's making any difference
[11:16] <kickar> maybe apache conf?
[11:18] <KMFrog> kickar I would say its a case of the CMS not handling errors very well, if you fix the error it will probably work
[11:18] <KMFrog> what cms is it
[11:18] <kickar> KMFrog,  the same with WP, Joomla, and so on
[11:18] <kickar> it is some free q&a cms
[11:19] <kickar> just for testing
[11:19] <kickar> my goal is not to fix this particular error, but to fix apache
[11:19] <KMFrog> apache is probably ok
[11:19] <KMFrog> it looks like php issues
[11:21] <kickar> maybe i have missed a module
[11:21] <lenios> kickar, try to do a test page in php and see if errors are displayed
[11:21] <kickar> what php modules I should install to have a good production enviroument
[11:22] <KMFrog> good test page:   <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[11:22] <KMFrog> anyname.php
[11:22] <lenios> error page: <?php echo 'test'.'not ended; ?>
[11:23] <lenios> i might have a syntax error besides the missing quote
[11:24] <kickar> http://otgovorimi.com/info.php
[11:24] <KMFrog> works fine
[11:25] <kickar> http://otgovorimi.com/error.php
[11:25] <kickar> displays the error fine now
[11:25] <KMFrog> makes me think again that CMS is not dealing with errors very well
[11:25] <lenios> cms related, yes
[11:26] <kickar> KMFrog,  but what about the other url?
[11:26] <kickar> the are both the same script on different systems set the same way
[11:26] <KMFrog> kickar if error.php is <?php echo 'test'.'not ended; ?>  .. then its normal it wont work :p
[11:27] <kickar> i mean about
[11:27] <kickar> for example i have set up a wp here
[11:27] <lenios> can you give phpinfo(); for both servers?
[11:27] <kickar> just a second
[11:29] <ikonia> kickar: have you asked the guys in #wordpress as I suggested
[11:29] <ikonia> kickar: you seem to be repeating the same question as in #ubuntu
[11:29] <kickar> ikonia,  just looking for an answer
[11:29] <kickar> i have asked in #php as well
[11:29] <ikonia> kickar: did you ask the guys in #wordpress who I told you HAD the answer and explained it to me
[11:30] <kickar> ikonia,  their solution is adding a ling in .htaccess to show error, but this is not going to fix my entire server
[11:30] <kickar> http://dhwebservices.com/info.php
[11:30] <kickar> lenios, here is the gentoo one
[11:30] <lenios> maybe it's just not your server
[11:30] <KMFrog> was the .htaccess line to disable gzip?
[11:31] <ikonia> lenios: it's not a server issue
[11:31] <kickar> lenios,  i have had the same issue with WHMCS, Joomla!, Wordpress etc.
[11:31] <ikonia> my RHEL and Fedora machines to it too, it's how PHP clasifies errors
[11:31] <ikonia> the guys in ##php should be able to explain this, and the guys in #wordpress explained this to me approx 2 days ago
[11:32] <lenios> my error test page is displayed as expected, anyway
[11:32] <ikonia> the settings in the php.ini need to be set a certain way, it's not just enabling logging and restarting
[11:32] <kickar> ikonia,  thet gave me that link now:  http://codex.wordpress.org/User:Sivel/FAQ
[11:32] <kickar> they*
[11:32] <kickar> and it is not a bit of a help
[11:33] <kickar> ikonia,  can you do me a favor and pastebin me you php.ini  file?
[11:33] <ikonia> kickar: why ?
[11:33] <kickar> so i can compare mine to yours
[11:33] <ikonia> why ? mines not got logging enabled
[11:34] <kickar> ok
[11:34] <ikonia> pastebin yours, we can look over it
[11:35] <kickar> http://gist.github.com/889114
[11:35] <ikonia> kickar: this is ubuntu 10.04 ?
[11:36] <jkgeyti> Any idea why I only see ./powerbtn in /etc/acpi/event in ubuntu server 10.04 ? I want to to run a script on power change.
[11:36] <kickar> 10.10
[11:38] <ikonia> kickar: why did you set the error_reporting = -1
[11:39] <kickar> ikonia,  -1 should be everythinh
[11:39] <ikonia> really, I thought that was nothing ?
[11:39] <ikonia> I know mine didn't use -1
[11:40] <kickar> ok, now is : E_ALL | E_STRICT
[11:40] <kickar> the same
[11:41] <ikonia> I didn't change that
[11:41] <kickar> do you remember what did you change,  or maybe point me to some reading
[11:46] <aliverius> $ sudo mdadm -r /dev/md0 /dev/sdb
[11:46] <aliverius> mdadm: hot remove failed for /dev/sdb: Device or resource busy
[11:46] <aliverius> how do i remove this from my raid 1 array?
[11:47] <aliverius> i erroneusly made the whole /dev/sdb a mirror while i should have made just one partition
[11:52] <ikonia> aliverius: is it still building the array
[11:52] <aliverius> no
[11:52] <ikonia> kickar: I don't remember, I got the info from #wordpress guys
[11:53] <aliverius> ikonia: i marked it as faulty
[11:53] <ikonia> aliverius: but is the build/sync process totally complete ?
[11:53] <aliverius> and it still doesnt remove
[11:54] <aliverius> how do i unmark it faulty?
[11:54] <ikonia> aliverius: you have to remove and hot add
[11:54] <ikonia> marking it as faulty should have removed it though
[11:54] <aliverius> how do i unmark it?
[11:54] <ikonia> you don't
[11:54] <ikonia> you need to remove and re-add it
[11:54] <aliverius> both drives?!
[11:55] <ikonia> no, the one you have marked as faulty
[11:55] <ikonia> and I don't mean physially remove it
[11:55]  * aliverius fears he will render the 1st disk non bootable
[11:55] <ikonia> remove it from the array
[11:55] <aliverius> sudo mdadm -f /dev/md0
[11:56] <aliverius> i marked all the array faulty :(
[11:56] <ikonia> ooh, you marked the array, not the disk
[11:56] <aliverius> i mucked up right?
[11:56] <ikonia> well, it's not the end of the world
[11:57] <aliverius> please help me
[11:57] <ikonia> can you pastebin the output of cat /proc/mdstad please
[11:57] <ikonia> can you pastebin the output of cat /proc/mdstat please
[11:58] <aliverius> http://pastebin.com/FNXwnyuM
[11:58] <ikonia> aliverius: great, no problems, was it disk sdb you wanted to remove ?
[12:00] <aliverius> yes
[12:00] <aliverius> shall i mark that as faulty?
[12:00] <ikonia> yes, mdadm -f /dev/sdb
[12:00] <aliverius> $ sudo mdadm -f
[12:00] <aliverius> mdadm: an md device must be given in this mode
[12:01] <aliverius> this is what made me mark the whole array
[12:01] <aliverius> ok lets do as you said
[12:01] <ikonia> aliverius: mdadm /dev/md0 -f /dev/sdb
[12:01] <ikonia> you don't want to fail the whole array, just the one disk
[12:02] <aliverius> mdadm: hot removed /dev/sdb
[12:02] <aliverius> ty ikonia
[12:02] <ikonia> there we go
[12:02] <aliverius> now i can partition it and make it like the first disk
[12:02] <aliverius> :))
[12:02] <ikonia> excellent
[12:11] <aliverius> but how do i partition it exactly as the first disk?
[12:11] <aliverius> when i built the array
[12:12] <aliverius> i thought it would use part of sdb not the whole sdb...
[12:13] <ikonia> aliverius: just make a partition the same size as the one you want to mirror
[12:13] <ikonia> be aware though that you may have performance issues if you've using part of a disk for a mirror and part for something else
[12:13] <ikonia> mirroring is normally done disk/disk mirroring partitions like for like
[12:13] <aliverius> really? nobody ever told me
[12:13] <ikonia> not a partition on a disk for mirroring and a partition for something else
[12:14] <aliverius> but ok
[12:14] <aliverius> it may boot a bit slower and that's all
[12:14] <aliverius> i need to mirror only 700G
[12:14] <aliverius> the other 2x1.3G are precious
[12:14] <aliverius> as space
[12:15] <aliverius> not the data inside them
[12:15] <ikonia> no
[12:15] <ikonia> general performance may suffer
[12:15]  * aliverius is wondering if he will be able to run the server headless forever
[12:15] <aliverius> :(
[12:15] <aliverius> anyway, i cant do otherwise now
[12:15] <ikonia> it won't be "that" bad
[12:16] <ikonia> I don't mean your machine will grind to a halt
[12:24] <aliverius> i will have to logout
[12:24] <aliverius> so, bb and thanks ikonia
[15:27] <peta> hello guys
[15:43] <hardwired> how do I enable and disable a daemon at boot? e.g. smdb. I am confused by all those possibilities with upstart, update-rc, runlevels
[15:43] <hardwired> seems unnecessarily complex.
[15:45] <lenios_> hardwired, it depends on the daemon
[15:46] <hardwired> lenios: OK, what are the possibilities, and how can I identify which daemon uses which method?
[15:46] <hardwired> and... why does it depend on the daemon? can't there be one single way for all daemons?
[15:49] <hardwired> do I edit files in /etc/init/ ? won't they get overwritten at the next upgrade?
[15:51] <iceflatline> sysv-rc-conf
[15:52] <hardwired> iceflatline: thanks, I'll check that out.
[15:53] <hardwired> iceflatline: this doesn't show smdb, yet it is started at boot.
[15:54] <hardwired> iceflatline: and it has no markers for cron, yet cron is started at boot.
[15:55] <hardwired> iceflatline: oh wait, it has smbd.
[15:56] <hardwired> iceflatline: but no marker for cron.
[15:58] <hardwired> aha;
[15:58] <hardwired> CAVEATS
[15:58] <hardwired>        sysv-rc-conf only manages the symlinks in the "rc{runlevel}.d" directories. It's possible that packages may have
[15:58] <hardwired>        other ways of being disabled or enabled.
[15:59] <iceflatline> I think cron is started in user space but I don't recall.
[16:00] <hardwired> what do you mean started in userspace?
[16:00] <hardwired> of course cron runs in userspace and not in the kernel
[16:00] <hardwired> I think I got the rc stuff covered with that sysv-cr-conf, thanks!
[16:01] <hardwired> now I need to fugure out the other half, the upstart stuff.
[16:02] <hardwired> initctl list gives a nice list of what is running
[16:04] <qman__> sysv-rc-conf will only work on sysv scripts, not upstart ones
[16:04] <qman__> AFAIK there is no simple, easy way to manage upstart scripts, you must edit them manually
[16:05] <hardwired> qman__: I think i just found one:
[16:05] <fefwerf> Hello all
[16:05] <hardwired> With newer versions of Upstart, you can make use of override files and the manual stanza to achieve the same result in a simpler manner:   echo "manual" >> /etc/init/myjob.override
[16:06] <fefwerf> Does someone know a good tutorial on setting up Dovecot+Postfix+SASL+LDAP on a recent Ubuntu sever?
[16:06] <fefwerf> I seem to be unable to do it despie an overkill of information
[16:06] <fefwerf> i need some virtual users
[16:06] <qman__> fefwerf, that's covered in the server guide
[16:07] <hardwired> fefwerf: I suggest you find some preconfigured config files and use them as a base for your system
[16:07] <fefwerf> qman__ looking at the right as we speak
[16:07] <hardwired> fefwerf: that's what I did with dovecot+exim+postgres
[16:07] <qman__> it's under postfix
[16:07] <qman__> it covers SASL and postfix+dovecot
[16:08] <fefwerf> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/postfix.html did not work. Should I just install the postfix-dovecot package an add on LDAP&virtual users?
[16:08] <qman__> what do you mean by "did not work"?
[16:09] <fefwerf> postfix/smtpd[4657]: fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms
[16:09] <fefwerf> I don't understand
[16:09] <fefwerf> do I have to activate SASL somewhere, Dovecot and Postfix are running
[16:10] <qman__> did you do the configuration in dovecot, and restart dovecot?
[16:10] <fefwerf> ye
[16:10] <fefwerf> Sorry i just checked,  dovecot-auth is NOT running
[16:11] <fefwerf> I will try to fix that
[16:11] <qman__> eh, that guide needs updating
[16:11] <qman__> it uses /etc/init.d to restart services
[16:12] <fefwerf> auth-worker(default): Killed with signal 15 (by pid=1 uid=0 code=kill)
[16:13] <shauno> I did postfix/dovecot/sasl with that guide a couple of months ago.  I don't remember stumbling across anything that got in my way
[16:13] <fefwerf> looks like somehow my dovecot is not configured right, I'll look into it
[16:13] <fefwerf> dovecot main process (5061) terminated with status 89
[16:15] <hardwired> qman__> it uses /etc/init.d to restart services
[16:15] <hardwired> ha!
[16:15] <hardwired> the transission to upstart is a mess :-)
[16:15] <qman__> yeah
[16:15] <qman__> really not a fan of upstart
[16:15] <hardwired> what they should have done is look at the NetBSD rc.d system
[16:16] <hardwired> it is so simple and effective
[16:16] <qman__> systemd is pretty brilliant too
[16:16] <fefwerf> Sorry hardwired&qman___ looks like I broke my dovecot.conf, will correct and try again
[16:17] <hardwired> yep. the rc.d lacks parallel startup. that's a big drawback these days
[16:17] <hardwired> fefwerf:  not need to apologize :-)
[16:17] <fefwerf> I think parallel startup is no big issue for most servers
[16:18] <fefwerf> But what do I know ;)
[16:26] <hardwired> very true
[16:26] <hardwired> my upstart is not recent enough for the above-mentioned method to work
[16:27] <fefwerf> OK fixed my dovecot.conf, looks like Postfix can use SASL now
[16:28] <fefwerf> Now i need to add on LDAP&Virtual users
[16:39] <fefwerf> I want a combination of local system users and virtual LDAP users for my Dovecot-Postfix setup
[16:39] <fefwerf> how should I do that?
[16:41] <fefwerf> is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixCompleteVirtualMailSystemHowto a good starting point?
[16:44] <hardwired> laters
[18:16] <wout-lnx> Hallyn???
[18:16] <wout-lnx> You awake?
[18:20] <dku> I created an Upstart service, but it is unable to start for some reason, while if I run the same command I pass to exec from the command line, it works fine. How can I debug this?
[18:20] <dku> (by unable to start, I mean the service immediately terminates)
[18:40] <elnur> There was a way to restrict a user to his home dir by typing a special home dir in /etc/passwd. I can't remember it. Could anyone remind me of it?
[18:40] <elnur> There was an additional character to prepend/append to home dir in /etc/passwd
[18:46] <zul> hallyn: i got a box that can amd qemu-kvm now fyi
[19:08] <aliverius> ikonia: are you there?
[19:17] <ikonia> aliverius: yes
[19:20] <aliverius> ikonia: i partitioned the second disk with exactly the same size
[19:20] <aliverius> do i proceed normally?
[19:20] <ikonia> yup
[19:23] <aliverius> sudo mdadm -a /dev/md0 /dev/sdb4
[19:23] <aliverius> ?
[19:23] <ikonia> depends on your partion layout and raid type
[19:23] <ikonia> read up on the options this time
[19:23] <aliverius> raid 1 and the partition will be sdb4
[19:24] <aliverius> i am browsing the man pages but still i am not confident
[19:24] <ikonia> what is not clear to you ?
[19:24] <aliverius> if that is the correct syntax
[19:24] <ikonia> what makes you think it's not
[19:25] <aliverius> the fact the man page doesnt make it clear
[19:25] <aliverius> but from my experience it should be the right one
[19:26] <ikonia> ok, what are you worried is not right
[19:26] <ikonia> and what part does the man page not make clear ?
[19:26] <ikonia> (trying to get you confident in what you're doing)
[19:26] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #743763 in exim4 (main) "package exim4-config (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus script post-installation installé a retourné une erreur de sortie d'état 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/743763
[19:32] <aliverius> ikonia: nothing is unclear, maybe i wanted to have an example command, just to be sure
[19:32] <aliverius> but oh
[19:32] <aliverius> mdadm [mode] <raiddevice> [options] <component-devices>
[19:32] <aliverius> beggining of the man page :p
[19:32] <aliverius> ok now i am sure
[19:32] <aliverius> lets build the array!
[19:33] <aliverius> mdadm: /dev/sdb4 not large enough to join array
[19:33] <aliverius> oooops
[19:35] <aliverius> http://pastebin.com/rghs01j4  <--- /dev/sdx4 are the two partitions that would become an array
[19:36] <aliverius> is it ok if i give the second disk partitio a few megabytes more?
[19:36] <ikonia> sure
[19:37] <aliverius> isnt it strange since the blocks are exactly the same?
[19:40] <ikonia> aliverius: the disks aren't
[19:41] <aliverius> no they are
[19:41] <aliverius> both same model
[19:43] <ikonia> that's odd
[19:43] <ikonia> not uncommon though
[19:50] <aliverius> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/XAgdjStA :)
[19:50] <aliverius> afterwards is there anything more to do?
[19:50] <ikonia> nothing more
[19:50] <ikonia> aliverius: great news, nice job.
[19:51] <ikonia> sit back and enjoy
[19:51] <aliverius> thanks a lot
[19:51] <aliverius> i dont see you in lfs
[19:51] <aliverius> got bored of it?
[19:59] <centHOGG> hi, anybody here install server on a USB stick?
[20:01] <ikonia> you can do that, but very frew people would
[20:01]  * centHOGG server NAS
[20:01] <centHOGG> yeah
[20:01] <centHOGG> ever seen freeNAS?
[20:01] <centHOGG> runs off a USB stick
[20:01] <centHOGG> for boot
[20:03] <ikonia> don't want to run a nas of usb
[20:04] <centHOGG> actually freenas is pretty clever.. just too much FS overhead
[20:50] <xperia> hello to all. i have heavy prolems here with ubuntu server i installed just yesterday
[20:51] <xperia> problem is the hybrid disk that i use inside that server
[20:51] <xperia> after the installement of ubuntu everything worked like it should
[20:51] <xperia> but then after several reboots ubuntu wanted check the disk with fscheck
[20:51] <xperia> here it stuck now
[20:52] <xperia> somehow ubuntu crashes full when it try to fscheck the hybrid disk
[20:52] <xperia> before it worked everything all fine but this fscheck breaks now everyting
[20:56] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #743821 in samba (main) "package winbind 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile a retourné une erreur de sortie d'état 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/743821
[20:59] <xperia> is anybody here to help me ?
[21:04] <centHOGG> whaz wrong
[21:04] <guntbert> xperia: not that I'm not willing to help, but alas I have no idea hwat a hybrid disk might be
[21:04] <centHOGG> ditto
[21:04] <guntbert> *what
[21:17] <thesheff17> xperia: I don't know much about the hybrid disks..I'm running a Seagate Momentus XT 500 GB 7200RPM SATA 3Gb/s 32 MB Cache 2.5 Inch Solid State Hybrid Drive ST95005620AS-Bare Drive Seagate Momentus XT 500 GB 7200RPM SATA 3Gb/s 32 MB Cache 2.5 Inch Solid State Hybrid Drive ST95005620AS-Bare Drive with no problems on an 64 bit 10.04 Desktop version.
[21:18] <centHOGG> kewl
[21:19] <thesheff17> xperia: I would test for the drive being bad. Then try to re install ubuntu..did try different kernel version during boot?
[21:37] <xperia> thesheff17: i have the exact harddisk here is it a Seagate Momentus XT 500 GB 7200RPM SATA 3Gb/s 32 MB Cache 2.5 Inch Solid State Hybrid Drive
[21:38] <thesheff17> xperia: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[21:38] <xperia> i am using it on the newest ubuntu server natty alpha 3 release
[21:38] <xperia> it boot all fine till fscheck
[21:38] <xperia> but then it crash full
[21:38] <xperia> screen goes off and nothing happen
[21:39] <thesheff17> xperia: try 10.10 or even 10.04 which is an LTS...why alpha?
[21:39] <centHOGG> LTS
[21:39] <thesheff17> LTS = long term support
[21:39]  * centHOGG concur
[21:40] <xperia> thesheff thanks for tip
[21:40] <storz> Hey everyone.  I have a question about dovecot.
[21:40] <xperia> looking just right now if disk is good
[21:40] <storz> When postfix saves an email, it saves it into /home/vmail/domain/user/new (or cur or tmp).
[21:40] <storz> But when I try to access it via imap, dovecot goes to /home/vmail/domain/user/Maildir/new (or cur or tmp).
[21:40] <storz>  How do I correct this?  In dovecot.conf, it is set to: mail_location = maildir:/home/vmail/%d/%n
[21:45] <xperia> storz this is more a postfix / doecot question
[21:45] <xperia> normally all the info configuring this software is availble on the net
[21:45] <xperia> if you dont have luck possibility is to ask in the chanels of postfix and dovecot
[21:46] <storz> xperia.  Thanks. I know.  I was just hoping that one of you have run into this before.  Figured it'd be a bit quicker.
[21:55] <Al-Bundy> what is the command to configure network on Ubuntu server?
[21:55] <guntbert> Al-Bundy: see https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html
[21:57] <aliverius> lets say i decide to boot my raid 1 without one disk
[21:57] <aliverius> then i reboot woth both disks connected
[21:58] <aliverius> what happens? does it sync automatically to the newst disk?
[22:11] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #743858 in openssh (main) "sshd not appending to /var/log/btmp" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/743858
[22:12] <xperia> thesheff17: i booted the server now with a live cd. maked a fsck on the disk and ubuntu server load all fine now
[22:13] <xperia> after the reboot
[22:13] <xperia> looks like a problem with fsck in ubuntu natty alpha 3
[22:13] <xperia> okay have to do see you all next time bye
[22:44] <aliverius> ikonia: you there? i made some questions above
[22:56] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #743883 in samba (main) "cannot load packages.  Broken packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/743883
[23:56] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #743920 in tftp-hpa (main) "package tftpd-hpa 0.49-1 failed to install/upgrade:" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/743920