[00:00] <ceed^> Hi, Anyone know how I can get weather in the notification area when using Unity?
[00:02] <robin0800> ceed^, you need indicator-weather see OMG!ubuntu! for details of how to install
[00:07] <LLStarks> bug 438868
[00:07] <LLStarks> been around for about 5 releases, got worse with natty
[00:08] <LLStarks> especially now with firefox 4.0
[00:11] <ceed^> robin0800: I can't find any that works in unity. In gnome it was built into the clock.
[00:12] <ceed^> and I did try indicator-weather. I can see that it runs, but I can't get it to show up in the notification area
[00:13] <robin0800> ceed^, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/indicator-weather-adds-data-caching-extra-weather-providers-and-locations/
[00:16] <ceed^> robin0800: Thanks a lot! There's a PPA it seems. Might give me an updated version.
[00:19] <ceed^> It works. Thanks again! :)
[00:35] <trigrou> https://demos.mozilla.org/en-US/#globetweeter \o/
[00:49] <MikeChelen> are there any solutions to fglrx install errors?
[01:03] <Rods_Tiger> I've just downloaded and made a liveusb of natty narwhal, and am installing it onto my computer, but I've hit a problem. I've got as far as the screen that says 'allocate drive space', and have allocated the partitions, but now realise there's no buttons or means to proceed further. I'm stuck there, forever.
[01:07] <Rods_Tiger> Am I supposed to know a certain key, or combination of keys, to press right now?
[01:08] <robin0800> Rods_Tiger, did you tell the partition  were to mount?
[01:09] <Rods_Tiger> yes, I've specified the partitions
[01:09] <Rods_Tiger> but this screen is a dead-end. There's no way forward from here.
[01:09] <robin0800> Rods_Tiger, and chosen its format?
[01:10] <Rods_Tiger> yes, but how do I move forward to the next step?
[01:10] <Rods_Tiger> There's not even any buttons or arrows or anything I'd expect to move me to the next action.
[01:11] <robin0800> Rods_Tiger, something must be wrong then go back and check
[01:11] <Rods_Tiger> well I know something is wrong. That's what I'm saying.
[01:11] <Daekdroom> !info exaile
[01:12] <Rods_Tiger> How can a screen ask for information and then leave me there with no way forward?
[01:12] <robin0800> Rods_Tiger, ctrl/alt/delete should work
[01:12] <Rods_Tiger> to go forward?
[01:12] <Rods_Tiger> which? or all three?
[01:12] <robin0800> Rods_Tiger, no to go back
[01:13] <Rods_Tiger> why would I want to go back? That doesn't do the job of installing, I should be going forward.
[01:13] <Rods_Tiger> Going back would do the opposite - not installing.
[01:14] <robin0800> Rods_Tiger, it wont let you install if its not right
[01:14] <Rods_Tiger> but it is right.
[01:14] <Rods_Tiger> It's just that there's no way to go forward. It seems to be designed with no buttons or arrows or anything like that.
[01:15] <robin0800> Rods_Tiger, then you would have a button you don't so it's wrong
[01:15] <Rods_Tiger> I know it's wrong. There should be a way forward. That's what I've been saying all this time. Not having a way to go forward in an installation is wrong.
[01:16] <Rods_Tiger> There must be a next step. But there's no way to get there.
[01:17] <robin0800> Rods_Tiger, If it accepted your partiton choices it would give you a button
[01:17] <Rods_Tiger> what would the button say?
[01:18] <robin0800> Rods_Tiger, continue
[01:18] <Rods_Tiger> where would this button magically appear?
[01:19] <robin0800> Rods_Tiger, When you have set the partition correctly
[01:19] <Rods_Tiger> I said where, not when
[01:20] <Rods_Tiger> And I told you that I have set the partitions correctly
[01:20] <robin0800> Rods_Tiger, go back and check
[01:20] <Rods_Tiger> for what?
[01:20] <Rods_Tiger> go back how?
[01:21] <robin0800> Rods_Tiger, ctrl/alt/delete
[01:21] <Rods_Tiger> why?
[01:22] <Rods_Tiger> control alt delete does nothing
[01:23] <Rods_Tiger> you mean all three at once?
[01:23] <Rods_Tiger> that does nothing
[01:24] <robin0800> Rods_Tiger, perhaps it has crashed then, mouse still working?
[01:24] <Rods_Tiger> I'm still at the screen that says 'allocate drive space' and there's no way to go anywhere from here. It's a dead end.
[01:24] <Rods_Tiger> no it hasn't crashed.
[01:24] <penguin42> can someone try and reproduce a bug for me?  Click on the date in the panel, click time & date setting sand then click unlock - I get a load of boxes rather than any text in the form
[01:26] <Rods_Tiger> It's highly unusual for an install procedure to have no navigation or buttons at all on a screen such as this. How do I move either forward or back?
[01:28] <robin0800> Rods_Tiger, Can you post a picture of where its stuck
[01:28] <Rods_Tiger> I told you. The screen that says 'allocate drive space'
[01:28] <penguin42> Rods_Tiger: Are you on a netbook or something with a small screen?
[01:28] <Rods_Tiger> a netbook
[01:28] <Rods_Tiger> normal screen
[01:29] <robin0800> Rods_Tiger, this is the live cd?
[01:29] <penguin42> Rods_Tiger: Then I think they're off the bottom - see bug 743324
[01:29] <Rods_Tiger> live usb
[01:29] <Rods_Tiger> oh. That's pretty useless
[01:29] <penguin42> Rods_Tiger: Yeh, I hit it yesterday
[01:29] <Rods_Tiger> bugger. Well, that's me fucked
[01:30] <Rods_Tiger> How do I shut down and give up?
[01:30] <penguin42> Rods_Tiger: I plugged in an external monitor; just ctrl-alt-del should do or hold down your power button
[01:30] <robin0800> Rods_Tiger, try an alternate iso
[01:30] <penguin42> Rods_Tiger: Could you comment on that bug to say you had the same thing please?
[01:30] <Rods_Tiger> control alt delete does nothing.
[01:31] <Rods_Tiger> I'll take the battery out.
[01:31] <penguin42> Rods_Tiger: Hold the power button down for 10 seconds
[01:31] <Rods_Tiger> ok
[01:38] <Rods_Tiger> I'll try ubuntu again in a few weeks then, see if it's been designed properly by then.
[01:38] <Rods_Tiger> Cheers
[01:53] <MikeChelen> anyone know a workaround for fglrx install errors?
[01:56] <BUGabundo> guys: hugs and kisses! guud nite
[03:13] <ovy> hi, where from can i download a live cd with a working ubuntu 11.04
[03:15] <rcconf> sup natty users
[03:16] <rww> ovy: see the alpha 3 URL in the channel topic, it has links.
[03:16] <rww> ovy: though whether it's stable enough to count as "working" is a matter of opinion
[03:16] <ovy> rww thanks
[03:18] <ovy> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/alpha-3/natty-desktop-i386.iso found it
[05:40] <papertigers> anyone run into rhythmbox not playing under natty anymore
[05:55] <theperfecttaco> anyone know if the maverick version of cinelerra vid editor can be installed in natty?
[10:11] <varun> hi friends
[10:12] <varun> i am facing issue with termianls, the max,min,close buttons are disappearing,the terminal is placed at downside of the top panel,i am using alpha 3,help please
[10:21] <aruns> hi is mike galbraith's auto scheduler patch in the kernel released with natty alpha 3 ?
[10:21] <varun>  i am facing issue with termianls, the max,min,close buttons are disappearing,the terminal is placed at downside of the top panel,i am using alpha 3,help please
[10:23] <varun> anybody there????????????
[10:23] <vish> !repeat | varun
[10:24] <wzssyqa> varun: this is caused by the crashing of compiz
[10:25] <varun> vish: i am facing issue with termianls, the max,min,close buttons are disappearing,the terminal is placed at downside of the top panel,i am using alpha 3,help please
[10:25] <varun> wzssyqa, :it happens only to some applications,mainly it happens for terminals only
[10:25] <varun> i am unable to drag the terminal,
[10:26] <vish> hmm, maybe we should name the factoid !dontrepeat , right now it seems to be inviting to repeat again;p
[10:35] <aruns> anyone know about the status of the auto-scheduler patch in alpha 3 kernel ? or can confirm that it is in?
[11:13] <BUGabundo> o/
[11:37] <gyger> Is there any reason why unity wont upgrade from 3.4 to 3.6?
[11:39] <BUGabundo> gyger: let me check
[11:40] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 3.6.8-0ubuntu3
[11:40] <BUGabundo> I already have it
[11:40] <BUGabundo> gyger: can you please try: sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade ; sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[11:40] <BUGabundo> thanks
[11:41] <gyger> btw, my compiz wont update either...
[11:44] <BUGabundo> my hasn't in many many weeks
[11:45] <gyger> bugabundo: fair enough, i just havent been able to use unity in at least a couple of weeks
[12:37] <tarvid> after updates, i have no menus or panels
[12:38] <BUGabundo> tarvid: restart gnome-panels
[12:40] <tarvid> how would i do that
[12:40] <BUGabundo> type gnome-panels somewhere where you can execute it
[12:41] <tarvid> gnome-panel worked - thanks
[12:42] <tarvid> how would I try out unity
[12:43] <BUGabundo> log out
[12:44] <BUGabundo> login and select it from the bottom bar
[12:44] <BUGabundo> but I haven't had much luck with that recently
[12:44] <BUGabundo> but YMMV
[12:48] <tarvid> on login there is no obvious unity, using "ubuntu" I am logged in with no panels except now gnome-panel says Cannot register the panel shell; there is already one runniung.
[12:55] <tarvid> killall gnome-panel; gnome-panel - now I have panels but no menus
[12:56] <tarvid> root@tarvid-laptop:/var/log# gnome-panel
[12:56] <tarvid> ** (gnome-panel:4943): WARNING **: Failed to load applet WnckletFactory::ShowDesktopApplet:
[12:56] <tarvid> GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: No such interface `org.gnome.panel.applet.AppletFactory' on object at path /org/gnome/panel/applet/WnckletFactory
[13:02] <tarvid> now I can't log out. Going to reboot. bbl
[13:08] <tarvid> after restart top panel with menus us back but bottom panel is missing
[13:08] <tarvid> also logout-helper failed to load and error report failed
[13:10] <tarvid> killall gnome-panel;gnome-panel restores both top and bottom panels
[13:10] <tarvid> but still no unity
[13:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:58] <BUGabundo> hey BluesKaj
[13:58] <BUGabundo> long time no see
[14:09] <dziadu> hi
[14:11] <dziadu> i have problem with natty :)
[14:11] <dziadu> after one upgrade glibc was broken and it took a loot of efford to make system working again
[14:11] <dziadu> now I can login into in normal way - before I needed to do chroot
[14:11] <dziadu> but now when I try to unstall something I have message:
[14:12] <dziadu> libc6 : Depends: libc-bin (= 2.13-0ubuntu7) but 2.13-0ubuntu9 is installed
[14:12] <dziadu> i was trying to fix it by hand editing file /var/lib/dpkg/status and change entry for libc-bin from 0ubuntu7 to 0ubuntu9
[14:12] <dziadu> that system thinks it has correct version
[14:13] <dziadu> but then I have message:
[14:13] <dziadu> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held pckages.
[14:13] <dziadu> E: Unable to correct depedencies.
[14:13] <dziadu> do you have some propositions what to do with this?
[14:13] <dziadu> i just need oportunity to install some packages
[14:13] <dziadu> for now everything stops on this broken deps for libc6
[14:14] <ikonia> dziadu: change back what you have done
[14:14] <dziadu> ikonia: I did
[14:15] <ikonia> so what's the problem currently ?
[14:17] <dziadu> ikonia: the same like above mentioned, when I run apt-get -f install I get error message:
[14:18] <dziadu> The following packages have unmet depedencies:
[14:18] <ikonia> what package are you trying to instal l?
[14:18] <dziadu> libc6 : Depends: libc-bin (= 2.13-0ubuntu7) but 2.13-0ubuntu9 is installed
[14:18] <dziadu> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held pckages.
[14:18] <dziadu> E: Unable to correct depedencies.
[14:18] <dziadu> this is ^^ full erro message
[14:18] <ikonia> what are you trying to install
[14:18] <dziadu> i don't install anything, I run apt-get -f install
[14:18] <ikonia> ok, update first
[14:22] <MechanisM> how to install ubuntu-tweak to natty?
[14:23] <ikonia> don't
[14:25] <dziadu> ikonia: is updated
[14:26] <ikonia> what happens now ?
[14:28] <dziadu> the same
[14:29] <ikonia> what is the package it's trying to install that has been held back
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> MechanisM:  ubuntu-tweak_0.5.11-1~natty1_all.deb    is whast i just downloaded/installed
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> http://blog.ubuntu-tweak.com/2011/01/13/ubuntu-tweak-0-5-11-bug-fixed-release-for-ubuntu-11-04-natty.html#more-906
[14:37] <dziadu> ikonia: for example I try to install g++-4.5
[14:38] <dziadu> then, firstly g++-4.5 is missing
[14:38] <ikonia> dziadu: no, I meant what package it being held back at the moment when you do apt-get -f
[14:38] <dziadu> secondly, many other packages generates error like this one: e2fslibs : PreDepends: multiarch-support
[14:39] <dziadu> ikonia: oh
[14:39] <dziadu> so them there is no info about package
[14:39] <dziadu> jus message without any name
[14:39] <dziadu> this is strange
[14:39] <ikonia> there must be something you did to trigger this
[14:39] <ikonia> pastebin your sources.list
[14:50] <MechanisM> looking for geeks to uncrypt my crypted folder. I'll provide ssh logins.
[14:50] <MechanisM> it was crypted with ecryptfs
[14:51] <MechanisM> there about 300gb very needed documents from my old ubuntu installation.
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> you checked the encryptfs docs. theres proberly a way to mount ig via the command line.
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> i never use encryptfs
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> is it eCryptfs? or eNcryptfs?
[14:54] <MechanisM> ubuntu default tool to crypt home directory.
[14:55] <MechanisM> it was crypted with it.
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome is what google popped up.
[14:55] <MechanisM> i see folder .ecryptfs
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> I never use the feature.  reading up on it now.
[14:56] <MechanisM> I saved whole home folder from this old installation. how to recover it.
[15:00] <dziadu> ikonia: http://wklej.org/hash/1a6bb632118/
[15:01] <ikonia> dziadu: have you really upgraded all the way from 8.10 ?
[15:03] <dziadu> ikonia: i don't know, it is computer what was here, I just need to work on it now, there was autoupdate and it has shown me message, I accepted and then... crap
[15:03] <ikonia> it wouldn't auto update to 11.04, you must have selected it
[15:04] <dziadu> ikonia: i don't know, maybe somebody else dod it, normally i don't work on ubuntu
[15:04] <ikonia> dziadu: did you do the upgrade to 11.04 ?
[15:05] <dziadu> ikonia: this computer is shared
[15:05] <ikonia> dziadu: did you do the upgrade to 11.04
[15:06] <dziadu> i know it was updated some weeks ago because wee needed some newest version of some libs
[15:06] <ikonia> dziadu: did you do the upgrade to 11.04
[15:08] <dziadu> ikonia: maybe it was me, I was doing some update something like month-two ago to newest version, it could be thait it was 11.04
[15:08] <ikonia> you don't know if you forced an update to the latest development release ?
[15:08] <Pici> What does lsb_release -a say?
[15:09] <dziadu> Pici: 11.04 Natty
[15:11] <dziadu> ikonia: yes, i was forcing to newest version, but I don't remember number, it could be 11.04
[15:11] <dziadu> my question is: can we do something with this or I should reinstall Ubuntu - and it is the fastest way?
[15:11] <ikonia> you've got/had a lot of external repos and earlier versions in your sources file, I'm wondering how solid the upgrade has been
[15:12] <ikonia> dziadu: if you can re-install it (more so after you messed trying to hack the glibc versions) I'd suggest it
[15:12] <dziadu> ikonia: this external repos I need to install some packages
[15:12] <ikonia> yes, but they are for earlier versions
[15:13] <dziadu> i use this PC for some analysis, but software you have in official branch, like root-5.18 is so old that I was trying to fin something new
[15:13] <dziadu> on the end I installed it from sources
[15:13] <dziadu> by hand
[15:18] <dziadu> ikonia: reisnatlling is an a option but then I destroy all my installed by hand packages, but if we can do nothing now...
[15:30] <dziadu> ikonia: ok, I have fixed it, now I can play with apt-get
[15:30] <ikonia> what did you do ?
[15:30] <dziadu> ikonia: tell me one this - is glibc6 in natty broken currently? should I afraid to upgrade it?
[15:30] <dziadu> ikonia: in fact I forget that mt glibc, which I install completely by hand is 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.7
[15:31] <dziadu> so I edited file 'status' and changed libc from 2.13-0ubuntu9 to coreect one
[15:31] <dziadu> and then apt-get is working again but it tries again upgrade glibc
[15:31] <dziadu> and because before it bored system then now I afraid to upgrade
[15:32] <dziadu> because it seems that problems come from glibc
[15:32] <ikonia> dziadu: I told you to do that ages ago, you said you had changed it back
[15:37] <dziadu> ikonia: no no, oryginal status was 2.13-0ubuntu7, i was changing to 2.13-0ubuntu9
[15:37] <dziadu> it comes from lates glibc upgrade when it upgraded from 2.11 to 2.13
[15:38] <dziadu> now I set back version which I installed by hand
[15:38] <DSA> hi+
[15:38] <DSA> hi
[15:41] <DSA> question
[16:06] <pwnsauce> Hi all. Can someone tell me how to properly report a kernel bug? The latest version (2.6.38-7) will not activate the backlight on my laptop. Same goes for 2.6.38-6, however, 2.6.38-5 is fine.  Thanks
[16:07] <pwnsauce> P.S. I've googled this problem to death.  I haven't had much lick
[16:07] <pwnsauce> *luck
[16:09] <Pici> pwnsauce: run: ubuntu-bug linux, then fill in your details
[16:09] <pwnsauce> Thanks pici.
[16:11] <pwnsauce> Pici: Will this still work if I am running a different kernel version? Latest version is unusable currently
[16:11] <Pici> pwnsauce: eeh, I'm not sure actualyl.
[16:11] <pwnsauce> Pici: I'll try it all the same. Thanks again
[16:13] <LarsTorbenK> can you say if 2.6.39 comes in natty ?
[16:15] <pwnsauce> AFAIK LarsTorbenK, 2.6.38 is the current kernel freeze. I'd personally expect to see 2.6.39 to be rolled out in natty's lifetime.
[16:16] <genii-around> !info linux-image-generic
[16:20] <rocky> is it not possible to import all of my google calendars into evolution in one shot? having to had all 12 one-by-one is a major pain
[16:57] <gnomefreak> other than just installing the cables and such is there software i need to use HD
[16:57]  * gnomefreak not seeing a change for the most part
[17:27] <BajK> hey, I recently did an dist-upgrade to my Kubuntu Natty and now my fonts are extemely smooth (which I like)
[17:27] <BajK> what was changed here?
[17:27] <BajK> but now i enabled anti aliasing and then the fonts were ugly again (like before) and disabling it again makes them even uglier
[17:29] <BajK> compare title bar font and konsole menu bar to the system settings fonts (changes there are applied to newly started applications only) http://bajk.dyndns.org/smoothfonts.png
[17:29] <BUGabundo> hey
[17:31] <charlie-tca> Good morning, BUGabundo
[17:32] <BUGabundo> its mid afternoon :)
[17:32] <charlie-tca> Good afternoon, BUGabundo
[17:32] <BUGabundo> ahah
[17:32] <BUGabundo> good after noon to you too
[17:33] <charlie-tca> still morning, here, but thanks anyway!
[17:33] <charlie-tca> I, too, am hoping for a very good after noon
[17:33] <rocky> whoa ... e-calendar-fact is consuming 768mb of ram
[17:36] <rocky> should compiz really be consuming 769m of virtual and 141m of resident memory?
[17:38] <gnomefreak> can someone please go to the following link and let me know if it says that javascript is off or not installed
[17:38] <gnomefreak> http://enigmail.mozdev.org/download/download-static.php.html
[17:39] <trism> gnomefreak: yes, in chromium-browser anyway
[17:39] <gnomefreak> trism: yeah here it does it in chrome,minefield,firefox
[17:39] <BUGabundo> Your browser either doesn't support or you have disabled JavaScript.
[17:39] <BUGabundo>  12.0.716.0 (79503) Ubuntu 11.04
[17:39] <gnomefreak> trism: do you have icedtea or sun-java
[17:40]  * gnomefreak thinking its icedtea
[17:40] <genii-around> gnomefreak: Same here in daily firefox build
[17:40] <BUGabundo> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0b13pre) Gecko/20110322 Firefox/4.0b13pre ID:20110322044950 too
[17:41] <rocky> i think "top" 's virtual memory usage is broke in natty
[17:41] <trism> gnomefreak: no, I don't have any java installed
[17:41] <rocky> VIRT in top represents swap usage right?
[17:42] <BajK> sudo any ideas about that fonts?
[17:42] <trism> gnomefreak: may just be the page, I don't see any noscript tags on the element
[17:42] <gnomefreak> beam.smp <<< what is that
[17:42] <gnomefreak> trism: google buzz cant find plugins im thinking that is javascript as well but im not sure
[17:43] <trism> gnomefreak: actually I don't seen any scripts at all linked on that page
[17:45] <gnomefreak> it seems that firefox disabled my out dated flash
[17:46] <gnomefreak> flashplugin-installer: Installed: 10.2.153.1ubuntu1
[17:47] <gnomefreak> see this link http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/plugincheck/  let me know what it says about your flash
[17:48] <trism> gnomefreak: yeah says it is outdated here too
[17:48]  * gnomefreak needs a smoke && think
[17:49] <trism> gnomefreak: but that is the latest version on adobe's site
[17:54] <gnomefreak> trism: yeah i know
[17:55] <gnomefreak> makes me think firefox is doing it
[17:55] <gnomefreak> i have a couple of ideas to check
[17:57] <BajK> ah ok got it
[17:57] <BajK> Hinting was the problem
[17:57] <BajK> wow now I now definitly like the Ubuntu fonts now
[17:57] <gnomefreak> it seems flash is disabled in chromium too
[17:59] <trism> gnomefreak: works here, just says it is outdated on the mozilla site
[17:59] <gnomefreak> trism: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/?no_redirect
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> Am i missing some easier way to get from one app to aother via mouse, instead of using alt-tab...
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> work space switcher seems awkward to do it that way
[18:04] <trism> gnomefreak: weird, yeah it says it has been disabled, but if I got to youtube or any other flash site, flash loads right up
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> I cant even get flash to install right now.
[18:05] <gnomefreak> trism: working on finding out what is going on. the enigmail page is broken in firefox 4
[18:06] <trism> Dr_Willis: clicking the launcher button will take you back to an app, or show you several instances if you have many
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> trism:  but that side bar is always hideing. so i forget about it heh.. :)   alsy trying to figure out how to make it lauch 2 terminals..
[18:09] <trism> Dr_Willis: there is an option to disable autohiding in ccsm, under the unity plugin (makes it much easier for me)
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> yea. i need to explore that a bit.
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> so far this is so awkawrd from what im used to.. im just running AWN so i got a useable taskbar at the bottom
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> I like just mouseing over my terminal icon in the AWN panel and using the wheel.
[18:10] <gnomefreak> i keep closing terminal when i close firefox :(
[18:11] <trism> Dr_Willis: it's kind of growing on me, and you can add menu items to the launchers to add extra features, I added a "New Terminal" option, although I suppose I could just use File/Open Terminal
[18:22] <BajK> is it just me or is natty so much quicker than maverick?
[18:22] <BUGabundo> its you
[18:23] <charlie-tca> its not ntty here
[18:24] <charlie-tca> desktop cd, somewhere between 3 and 7 minutes to the desktop seems slow to me
[18:26] <BUGabundo> lucky you ! I can't even get to desktop
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> heh.
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> Not tried the live cd yet. Just upgraded this box.
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> some how flash got removed and cant get it to reinstall. nslwrapper keeps crashing when installing
[18:28] <charlie-tca> BUGabundo: maybe you didn't wait long enough ;-)
[18:29] <BUGabundo> ahahaah
[18:29] <BUGabundo> when I end this session
[18:29] <BUGabundo> ill try a new Guest session
[18:29] <BUGabundo> or even this very one on Unity
[18:30] <charlie-tca> bug 744362
[18:31] <BUGabundo> ahahahahahahaha
[18:37] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: is there anything i need to do other than hook up the HDMI cable to use HD?
[18:37]  * gnomefreak honestly not seeing a difference if any
[18:38] <BUGabundo> no
[18:38] <BUGabundo> you may need to change audio output
[18:38] <gnomefreak> i have it in the right port
[18:39] <gnomefreak> ok so how do i test. i dont have a blue-ray  player installed
[18:39] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, did you try the recovery kernel at boot ? I had to do so but it fixed things
[18:40] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: mplayer ftw
[18:40] <gnomefreak> lol found a test for it but it tells me to install flash
[18:40] <BUGabundo> BluesKaj: no need recently
[18:40] <BluesKaj> mplayer is flaky in 11.04
[18:40] <BUGabundo> wfm
[18:40] <BUGabundo> audio is borked in browsers
[18:40] <BUGabundo> :(
[18:41] <BluesKaj> vlc still works well
[18:42] <BUGabundo> but I can't play music scream in browser :(
[18:42] <BUGabundo> http://www.shoutcast.com/shoutcast_popup_player?station_id=1377200&play_status=1&stn=TechnoBase.FM%20-%2024h%20Techno,%20Dance,%20Tranc...
[18:42] <BUGabundo> you will here cracks
[18:43] <BluesKaj> gawdawful stuff ..so repetitive
[18:44] <BluesKaj> so called trance/dance ...bam bam bam
[18:45] <BUGabundo> can you listen to it fine?
[18:45] <BluesKaj> unfortunately yes :)
[18:46] <BUGabundo> damn it
[18:46] <BUGabundo> so why doesn't it work for me?
[18:46] <BUGabundo> last time I had something like this, I had pulse profile busted
[18:46] <BluesKaj> chrome 11 beta here
[18:46] <BUGabundo> guess I need to purge it again
[18:46] <BluesKaj> no PA here
[18:46] <BUGabundo> ohhhhh
[18:47] <BUGabundo> right
[18:47] <BUGabundo> kde
[18:51] <BluesKaj> no BUGabundo , I deleted PA, it was installed by default
[18:52] <BUGabundo> so what are you using for audio BluesKaj?
[18:52] <BluesKaj> alsa
[18:53] <BUGabundo> welcome to 2000
[18:55] <BluesKaj> PA is just another layer of digital processing on my system  , it's not needed, just adds distortion
[18:55] <BUGabundo> $ pulseaudio --start
[18:55] <BUGabundo> E: main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[18:55] <BUGabundo> maybe purge was not a great idea
[18:58] <BluesKaj> well, If I could affor a MacIntosh tube power amp, i'd buy one ...welcome to 1955 :)
[18:58] <BUGabundo> eheh
[19:02] <BajK|dinner> ah nice to see that the Nepomuk indicator is shiped with Kubuntu Natty :)
[19:06] <Onryo> Hi guys. Anybody know what Ubuntu 10.10 stops at grup with Sandy Bridge. No I am not using the internal GPU.
[19:07] <Onryo> Grub ... sry
[19:07] <gnomefreak> Onryo: join #ubuntu for 10.10 support
[19:08] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: could it be HD that is causing flash to be in fast forward?
[19:08] <BUGabundo> eheh
[19:08] <BUGabundo> no idea
[19:09] <gnomefreak> that makes 2 of us. maybe tomarrow ill test the VGA cable
[19:11] <Onryo> Sure I have tried dropping linux 2.6.38-7 fixed the x-stack with edgers ppa and some other stuff to make Compiz work. Not stable enough yet ...
[19:12] <Onryo> That is on 10.10. Natty is really not stable enough to be a host for the VM environment Ill be using. Not to mention all the "Big kernel lock" fixes are not making life easy for any kind of hypervisor.
[19:54] <tasslehoff> any known issues that gives problems when dist-upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04? figured maybe I'd take the leap when the beta arrives.
[20:32] <eoin_> Trying to get natty up and running in a Virtual Box but the guest additions installer keeps complaining that I don't have the kernel headers installed. Tried to install them but apt says they are already the newest version.
[21:13] <mongy> is it a feature that with an app maximised and the unity launcher autohides, when you put your mouse near it it appears faded until you move mouse all the way
[21:14] <mongy> basically, i just want it to appear full opacity when it does appear..
[21:17] <trism> mongy: in ccsm for unity there is an option on the experimental tab: Hide Animation, try setting it to just slide
[21:18] <mongy> gnn, now it slowly slides in lol
[21:19] <mongy> any way to just make it appear fully without putting mouse all the way in.   this will do for now tho
[21:20] <trism> mongy: don't know, I just disable hiding, much easier for me
[21:21] <mongy> on a netbook, very small screen
[21:21] <mongy> the difference with something like youtube webpage is, all the difference
[21:25] <mongy> nvm. i will get used to it.
[21:26] <BbluE> QUESTION: I was wondering if there will be any support for SLI or Crossfire, for nVidia or ATI video cards in Natty?
[21:35] <BluesKaj> BbluE, I'm running nvidia 8400gs on natty ..works well with the nvidia-current driver
[21:39] <seekandestroy> guys, is there a way to set autohide to top panel?
[21:43] <Daekdroom> seekandestroy, nope
[21:44] <seekandestroy> no way also usign gconf?
[21:44] <Daekdroom> Not that I know of
[21:45] <seekandestroy> mmm
[21:45] <seekandestroy> bad thing
[21:47] <BbluE> BluesKaj, are you by chance running SLI?
[21:49] <BluesKaj> BbluE, no just one nvidia card , one monitor
[22:02] <BbluE> Ah, okay... thank you.
[22:03] <BbluE> It's not really a necessity, it was just curiosity.. on whether or not that was something that they would have got working.
[22:05] <BbluE> I have two systems, 1 with two nVidia 7600GS cards, 1 monitor & the other with two 9800 GT Superclocked cards. It seemed like something many talked about, but never got to completely work.
[22:07] <BluesKaj> BbluE, I've heard of ppl getting 2 monitors working , but I'm not sure what the setups were
[22:07] <philip_> I need a tutorial for the new window manager
[22:08] <BbluE> SLI, you would only use 1 monitor.. I've seen people use the dual monitors too.. and I've been quite curious with that as well.
[22:08] <charlie-tca> philip_: here are the shortcuts that have been working - http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/unity-keyboard-mouse-shortcuts/28087#28087
[22:14] <philip_> charlie-tca: I actually need something even more basic than that. I can't find the "Preferences" application links. I guess I can do it from the terminal, but...
[22:16] <philip_> charlie-tca: nevermind. Your link answered my question :)
[22:18] <philip_> still, a simple tutorials page to ease ppl to Unity from gnome would be nice
[22:21] <dajhorn> How can I get a regular dpkg and apt-get at the natty alternate rescue prompt?
[22:25] <charlie-tca> dajhorn: sudo apt-get update
[22:26] <charlie-tca> or sudo apt-get whatever-you-need-to-do
[22:26] <dajhorn> charlie-tca:  The natty dailies don't have apt-get.  They just have udpkg.
[22:27] <charlie-tca> Of course they have apt-get. I use it every day on the daily images
[22:27] <charlie-tca> use a desktop cd, run as live desktop then
[22:28] <dajhorn> charlie-tca: The 20110328 daily doesn't have apt-get,  just the deb for it in the /pool.
[22:28] <dajhorn> Maybe I have a dud daily build.
[22:33] <Lars_G> Greets all.
[22:33] <Lars_G> Question, is it true that natty uses xfce 4.8?
[22:33] <charlie-tca> yes
[22:34] <Lars_G> I think I'm going natty beta then :)
[22:37] <charlie-tca> read the release notes, and then just a update-manager -d
[22:37] <Lars_G> yeah
[22:39] <Lars_G> Eh the only note that gives me some pause is ticket 710961 I'll check it out first
[22:39] <charlie-tca> bug 710961
[22:40] <charlie-tca> hm, looks like it should be fixed already
[22:41] <Lars_G> Ah true
[23:01] <gordonjcp> hi
[23:01] <gordonjcp> is this a good place to ask about the Natty nightlies?
[23:02] <gordonjcp> I've downloaded the ISO and installed to a USB stick with usb-creator
[23:02] <gordonjcp> but it doesn't work, it just sits at a black screen with a rectangle, a dot and a circle at the bottom
[23:02] <arand> gordonjcp: So you don't get a boot menu?
[23:03] <gordonjcp> nope, it goes straight to that
[23:05] <gordonjcp> arand: isn't there some sort of menu?
[23:05] <gordonjcp> what do the symbols mean, anyway?
[23:06] <arand> Hmm, waht could be wrong is that either the downloaded image, or the written copy on the usb, was corrupted at some stage, try md5summing the downloaded file, and re-copying it to the stick, alternatively try to use a different copying tool ubuntu-usb-creator/unetbootin/use a CD.
[23:06] <gordonjcp> unetbootin doesn't work
[23:06] <gordonjcp> it just writes garbage to the stick
[23:06] <gordonjcp> and I don't even know where I'd get a CD any more
[23:07] <gordonjcp> I haven't had a machine with optical media for about ten years
[23:07] <gordonjcp> well, games consoles aside
[23:08] <gordonjcp> is there a way to get actual text out of it?
[23:08] <arand> gordonjcp: And the screen you describe sounds like the usb might be garbage as well, there should be a screen with an "use keyboard to interact"-symbol
[23:08] <arand> And if you press any key, the standard boot menu should appear
[23:10] <gordonjcp> arand: okay, I don't know what I'm looking for there
[23:10] <gordonjcp> there's a rectangle, a dot and a circle at the bottom
[23:11] <robin0800> gordonjcp, hit the space bar
[23:11] <gordonjcp> ah, there's the menu
[23:11] <gordonjcp> wtf is this rectangle and circle thing then?
[23:12] <gordonjcp> confusing...
[23:13] <arand> Meant to convey "press keyboard to interact", otherwise system boots directly to the pre-installation choice screen
[23:17] <gordonjcp> hm
[23:17] <gordonjcp> I'm not sure how you're meant to guess that, but I'm a bit graphic-blind
[23:17] <gordonjcp> it's like dyslexia but with graphics
[23:18] <gordonjcp> incidentally it appeared to be dying because it was trying to mount root off the floppy drive; as a temporary fix I disconnected the floppy
[23:18] <arand> It's supposed to look like a person inside a circle and a keyboard.
[23:18] <gordonjcp> okay
[23:19] <gordonjcp> how do I get the normal desktop?
[23:19] <robin0800> gordonjcp, choose classic
[23:20] <arand> It should be possible to just wait and let it boot, at which time you will be given an option of live session/install
[23:20] <arand> Or do you mean the desktop/window manager?
[23:20] <gordonjcp> yes, can I just have normal Gnome?
[23:21] <arand> ^ His anwser is correct
[23:21] <arand> At the login screen.
[23:21] <gordonjcp> there isn't a login screen
[23:22] <arand> If so, try logging out.
[23:24] <gordonjcp> I did that and it appeared to just crash
[23:25] <gordonjcp> right; thanks for all the help
[23:25] <gordonjcp> it's too difficult to use
[23:25] <gordonjcp> I'll stick with XFCE for now
[23:29] <Scotty> hellooo folks
[23:29] <papertigers> anyone have problems with rhythmbox in natty?
[23:29] <papertigers> its not playing
[23:30] <Scotty> im using Banshee  works fine
[23:30] <Scotty> is it the sound? or the codec?
[23:30] <Scotty> or something else?
[23:31] <papertigers> Scotty: banshee works fine for me to
[23:31] <papertigers> but I want to use rhythmbox
[23:32] <Scotty> hmm ok
[23:33] <Scotty> just opening Rhythmbox and played a song, works fine on mine
[23:44] <BbluE> You all have a good night,