| darkmatter | vish: eat message style and die! http://i.imgur.com/SCrNb.png :D | 00:42 |
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| hyperair | sb levelclear -level clientcrap,crap,joins,parts,quits,nicks,clientnotice | 05:57 |
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| === daker_ is now known as daker | ||
| vish | zniavre: what is the class/widget_class for combobobox text color? | 12:40 |
| vish | i'm able to change the bg color for the box, but just not the text :s | 12:41 |
| vish | yay! found it! i ended up using gtkparasite on twf :D | 12:45 |
| zniavre | sorry i just came nack from school | 13:01 |
| zniavre | back* | 13:01 |
| * vish scratches head.. | 14:51 | |
| vish | why do people think i'm trying to remove some feature! | 14:51 |
| vish | heh, and i wonder what customization has to do with anything that i wrote ;p | 14:52 |
| thorwil | vish: that's all you are about, isn't it? vandalizing the wiki and removing their precisous features!!! | 14:53 |
| vish | hehe! | 14:53 |
| thorwil | vish: zekopeko's most recent reply on the design problem thread is most excellent, though | 14:55 |
| vish | oh? /me checks | 14:56 |
| vish | ha! yea, i thought i'd just ignore that reply about customizations.. | 14:57 |
| vish | is there some site which says "FOSS is about choice" !!! | 14:57 |
| Islington | I have always had trouble swallowing zeko's argument, even when I read in the mouth of some gnome person | 15:05 |
| coz_ | Islington, is there another mailing list thingy? | 15:06 |
| Islington | coz_: this is on the ayatanna list | 15:06 |
| coz_ | oh? | 15:06 |
| coz_ | mm | 15:06 |
| coz_ | Islington it is worth subscribing to? | 15:07 |
| Islington | honestly? no | 15:07 |
| coz_ | lol | 15:07 |
| Islington | a lot of circlejerking and very few actual descicions afa have seen | 15:07 |
| coz_ | Islington, sounds typical mailing list stuff | 15:08 |
| Islington | The problem with the argument for me has always been that it degrades the value of customization in FOSS. | 15:08 |
| Islington | customization as a feature | 15:10 |
| coz_ | Islington, shouldnt you be saying this on #ayatana as well ?? | 15:10 |
| Islington | nah just responding to vish's comments above | 15:11 |
| coz_ | oh sorry ,, I will have to read scroll back | 15:11 |
| Islington | I was just before you logged in lol | 15:11 |
| Islington | *It | 15:12 |
| coz_ | oops didnt have xchat opened on the other machine,, cant read scrollback,,,darn | 15:12 |
| vish | Islington: right, customization is a feature sure, but not a must have.. , heck! even i want to customize.. :) | 15:13 |
| coz_ | oo customizatioin is the issue ? | 15:13 |
| Islington | not a must have vish? Its one of the most important features that differentiates linux now | 15:14 |
| vish | but i really dint know what anything in my reply had to do with customization | 15:14 |
| coz_ | Islington, absolutely | 15:14 |
| Islington | customizing both windows/mac is incredibly tedious, but I agree its way off topic | 15:14 |
| coz_ | well "customization" is sort of artsy :) | 15:15 |
| vish | Islington: yea surely, not the way Canonical does stuff. there must be a way for things to plugin | 15:15 |
| vish | Canonical does have a tendency to not allow easy ways to plugin and change things though.. | 15:15 |
| Islington | coz_: lol off topic to the topic on list | 15:15 |
| coz_ | oh :) | 15:16 |
| Islington | vish: that particular problem is endemic to gnome | 15:16 |
| Islington | with its rejection of compiz especially | 15:16 |
| vish | that was STUPIDITY! | 15:17 |
| coz_ | gnome is a pain inthe A@@ | 15:17 |
| coz_ | as far as choices / customization goes | 15:17 |
| vish | seriously, i can not digest the fact that they blatantly rejected Compiz from even participating in GNOME Shell | 15:17 |
| vish | their reasons were total bullcrap! | 15:18 |
| vish | if not for compiz, i would bet GNOME would have had less than 25% of users they have now | 15:19 |
| coz_ | well,, in some respects..compiz poses a threat,, in a minor way,, I was talking about compiz as a DE long ago... lately ,, I have been reading more people wanting to to actually be realized,, I doubt it will | 15:19 |
| Islington | it can be a de, with compiz-menu | 15:20 |
| vish | well, Compiz DE is not Unity :D | 15:20 |
| vish | s/not/now* | 15:20 |
| coz_ | this is true | 15:20 |
| coz_ | Islington, well compiz + cairo dock is really all you need | 15:22 |
| vish | yay! cairo dock! | 15:22 |
| coz_ | Islington, and of course kde and or gnome libraries | 15:22 |
| coz_ | vish, :) I am "forced" to agree :) | 15:22 |
| Islington | I never got into cairo dock, awn was good though | 15:22 |
| coz_ | Islington, oo dude,, cairo dock is far more configurable | 15:23 |
| Islington | oh yeah, I remember | 15:23 |
| vish | coz_: DBO threw a fit when he saw me using cairo-dock! haha! ;p | 15:23 |
| coz_ | Islington, the config dialog is not very far off from ccsm | 15:23 |
| coz_ | vish, are you serious? | 15:23 |
| coz_ | vish, why the hell would he be peeved at that? | 15:23 |
| coz_ | Islington, and with nearly as many options as compiz | 15:24 |
| vish | coz_: well, not for too long.. just that he was like : Cairo-dock is blasphemy or something similar | 15:24 |
| coz_ | vish, oh man,, some developers are just nuts :) | 15:24 |
| vish | coz_: i think he dint expect to see people actually using cairo-dock! ;) | 15:26 |
| vish | or any dock other than Docky ;p | 15:26 |
| coz_ | vish, strange,, :) | 15:26 |
| vish | coz_: well, Docky is quite popular, and does seem to have a large user base | 15:26 |
| coz_ | vish, I know ,, I have tried it,, not as nice in my opinion | 15:27 |
| coz_ | but I have to be predjudiced about it :) | 15:27 |
| vish | i actually wonder what Canonical plan is for Touch, they seem to be investing a lot of time+effort in that | 15:28 |
| coz_ | vish, that touches on one of my pet peeves.. I would like a detailed listing of exactly what is "canonical's ( shuttleworth's) long term vision for ubuntu in general | 15:29 |
| vish | i'm quite certain(which is my best guess of-course) they have someone from design team working on a touch device (or something close to it) with some device manufacturer | 15:32 |
| coz_ | vish, hopefully,, touch is , again, a big thing, especially since the advent of iPad | 15:32 |
| coz_ | but windows 95 had a pen tablet years ago... it never really caught on except in some busnesses/ corporate envionments | 15:33 |
| coz_ | I would prefer the more accurate, pen tablet, which is generally drive by wacom | 15:33 |
| * vish wonders if i was too rude on Bug 737183 ? | 16:30 | |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 737183 in humanity-icon-theme "Home folder icon should be a *folder* with the home symbol, not a home symbol" [Wishlist,Opinion] https://launchpad.net/bugs/737183 | 16:30 |
| coz_ | vish, nah,, sounds right to me | 16:33 |
| vish | *phew* , dint expect Mark to just accept it … ;) | 16:34 |
| coz_ | vish, really? cool | 16:34 |
| vish | coz_: yea, he filed that bug, and i closed it ;) | 16:34 |
| coz_ | :) | 16:34 |
| Ronnie | For a project in our local community im creating a webchat app based on IRC (maybe/hopefully this will result in chat.ubuntu.com sometime). I made some mockups and want some feedback on this. so fire away | 18:34 |
| Ronnie | http://img228.imageshack.us/i/plains.png/ | 18:34 |
| Ronnie | http://img857.imageshack.us/i/contacts.png/ | 18:34 |
| Ronnie | http://img62.imageshack.us/i/topicm.png/ | 18:34 |
| Ronnie | http://img843.imageshack.us/i/mouseonheader.png/ | 18:34 |
| Ronnie | http://img199.imageshack.us/i/textinputselected.png/ | 18:34 |
| vish | Ronnie: looks good, but i'm confused which channel is focussed there, is it ubuntu-nl or ubuntu-nl-mwanzo? | 19:00 |
| vish | if its not the second channel, why is it underlined? | 19:00 |
| Ronnie | the first channel is active, the second channel has "new messages" | 19:00 |
| vish | ah! | 19:00 |
| vish | Ronnie: you could play with just using color/bold/italics and see how that works, to me it is a bit confusing atm | 19:03 |
| Ronnie | good idea, ill have a shot | 19:03 |
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| Ronnie | vish: http://oi56.tinypic.com/25kirmt.jpg | 19:14 |
| Ronnie | not yet what i expected | 19:14 |
| vish | hmm, maybe with the orange color it might be better | 19:15 |
| Ronnie | what if i put the color on the top instead of bottom on the tab? | 19:15 |
| vish | might work, but it would still seem like "selected" , what about just using an icon for new messages? (a color chat bubble) | 19:17 |
| Ronnie | http://oi56.tinypic.com/21dg710.jpg | 19:18 |
| vish | heh, now its just barely visible :D | 19:19 |
| Ronnie | is possible, but could make the tabsbar make "jumpy" | 19:19 |
| vish | you could just use the icon as a partial-overlay, | 19:19 |
| vish | but just colored text should work IMO, most clients just do that.. or the blinking bubble | 19:20 |
| Ronnie | thats possibe. do you know any method to make difference between "new messages" and "new messages with your name in it" | 19:21 |
| Ronnie | colored tekst is also possible, but orange is very ugly on that 'grey', and i dont want to introduce more colors | 19:21 |
| * vish nods | 19:22 | |
| vish | maybe using " @ " for messages with name? | 19:22 |
| Ronnie | vish would you like to have the xcf file to play around with? | 19:23 |
| vish | sure, but not right now.. :) | 19:23 |
| Ronnie | aargg, ubuntuone is down | 19:25 |
| Ronnie | vish: what about a line under the channelname, or does that look too much like a link | 19:28 |
| vish | not sure, would need to actually see it.. :) | 19:30 |
| Ronnie | vish: http://www.2shared.com/file/RgpjlcGI/Visual.html <== gimp file (made with the beta, contains layer groups) | 19:32 |
| vish | cool! will play with it.. :) | 19:33 |
| Ronnie | http://img834.imageshack.us/i/activetabvariations3.png/ | 19:33 |
| Ronnie | vish, glow - shadow should be possible too | 19:38 |
| vish | Ronnie: ha! exactly what i was thinking right now! :) | 19:39 |
| Ronnie | have to go now | 19:39 |
| Ronnie | ill be back later | 19:39 |
| darkmatter | heya coz_ | 20:30 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, hey guy :) watching all variation of numa numa guy :) | 20:36 |
| darkmatter | coz_: cool. just collecting some crap and starting a theme extravaganza. tm just slightly hacked template stuff, but whatever | 20:37 |
| darkmatter | http://i.imgur.com/SCrNb.png | 20:37 |
| coz_ | nice | 20:38 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, which client is that? | 20:38 |
| darkmatter | coz_: not my theme bits atm. just a "reference template" for the general mood | 20:39 |
| darkmatter | empathy | 20:39 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, ok cool,, never used empathy | 20:39 |
| darkmatter | modded 'fluffy' wip from adium for the style | 20:39 |
| Ronnie | back | 21:39 |
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