[00:29] Is it possible to keep the same layout/appearance of Firefox 3.6 after upgrading to Firefox 4? [00:32] earthling_: I don't know [00:33] But I don't think so === jasono is now known as Jasono [00:34] firefox men > options > un-check tabs on top check menu bar [00:34] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/firefox-3-theme-for-firefox/ [00:36] someon from #FF suggested [00:37] there is also a lifehacker.com article dedicated to this [00:37] lol [00:38] http://lifehacker.com/#!5784783/how-to-fix-annoyances-with-firefox-4s-new-look [00:38] chedk that out earthling_ [00:42] ok,thx [00:42] Thnx [00:43] view > toolbars > customize [00:43] drag stop and reload to the left [00:43] and maybe the home button [01:34] if you had to add grails to your ubuntu server, how would one go about that without leaving one's proverbial "butt hangin in the wind"? [02:01] hello [02:01] hi rcconf [02:12] How can I customize tha icon http://i55.tinypic.com/2qv3y49.png ? [02:20] right click properties? [02:21] earthling_: no, it's for window title [02:21] cant right click it and change [02:21] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-53277.html maybe [02:22] ^ is for the show desktop button [02:24] lol i want for gnome terminal :) [02:24] no show desktop tksanyway [02:25] rcconf: can you still do custom icons for terminal profiles? [02:25] no icon in my title bar [02:29] holstein: I cant [02:29] im using ambiance theme [02:30] maybe thats the problem? [02:49] for upgrading to firefox 4 can I uninstall 3.6 and then install from ubuntu software center? [02:53] earthling_: no [02:53] !ff4 [02:53] Firefox 4 is the current stable version of Firefox. Current versions of Ubuntu do not have it (see !latest), but there is an unofficial and unsupported PPA that you can use by running the following command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox [02:54] earthling_: follow the instructions [02:54] earthling_: you dontneed to remove, just upgrade it :) [02:54] will it keep all my settings? [02:55] of course :) [02:55] bookmarks [02:55] everything. [02:55] ? [02:55] ok [02:56] what does unsupported PPA mean? [02:56] earthling_: it means is not supported by Canonical [02:56] but it's a official ppa from Firefox team [02:56] ;) [02:56] it's safe. [02:56] it becomes supported over time? [02:56] earthling_: firefox 4 only in natty [02:57] new ubuntu version [02:57] ic [02:57] earthling_: oh yeah i dont know [02:57] if ubuntu repositories will add firefox 4 [02:57] but for now you need the PPA [02:57] 10.10 still uses 3.6 as official version [02:58] ? [02:58] yes [02:58] because it came out before 4 was released [02:58] earthling_: are you using 10.10? [02:58] actually Im on 10.04 [02:58] LTS [02:58] Im used to it :) [02:58] earthling_: in 10.04 FF 4 showed up automatically in repositories? [02:59] without PPA? [02:59] oh forget. [02:59] 3.6 in software center [02:59] yes 3.6 is the latest from ubuntu repositories [02:59] in natty will be firefox 4 [02:59] natty = ubuntu 11.04 [03:00] yes [03:00] :) [03:01] :) [03:01] !latest ff [03:01] Factoid 'latest ff' not found [03:02] !latest firefox [03:02] Factoid 'latest firefox' not found [03:02] it's !ff4 [03:02] !latest [03:02] Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. [03:02] ic [03:02] ic means? [03:02] I see [03:02] :) [03:02] oh lol. [03:02] I just read it :) [03:02] said* [03:02] got it [03:02] :D [03:02] roger roger [03:03] heh [03:03] from the movie Airplane [03:03] didnt watch [03:03] i need to do someting BBL ma man [03:04] so does that command automatically install new updates as they become available? [03:04] or do I set that in the browser? [03:04] I wait until updates show up in Update Manager [03:05] yes earthling_ [03:05] ok, thx [03:05] it will update automatically because of PPA :) [03:05] I just add PPA from trusted sources [03:05] but only stable updates? [03:05] yes [03:05] earthling_: for unstable you need to use dev ppa iirc [03:06] stable is good [03:06] enough for me [03:06] you running 4 now? [03:06] yes [03:06] like it? [03:06] it's better than 3.6 [03:07] earthling_: join #firefox [03:07] k :) [03:07] cya later [03:07] lataz [03:08] * rcconf loves Ubuntu [03:08] open source 4 evah! [03:08] I'm having trouble extending my desktop to a second monitor. I can mirror he image just fine, but when i try to uncheck that option, the image i get on the monitor implies that my graphics card crashed? Im a newbie. I was using ubuntu 10.4 and i had the same problem before i upgraded to 10.10 just now. what do i do? thanks [03:09] Guest80327: nvidia or ati? [03:10] you can use 2 monitors with different images on 1 computer? [03:11] I think [03:11] far out [03:11] my nvidia drivers work fine [03:11] clone mode [03:11] hdmi out [03:11] dual monitor etc [03:11] love it [03:12] but its the same image I thought [03:12] its fun though using TV as a monitor [03:12] earthling_: you can divide the image? [03:12] not sure, it seemed like that was what Guest80327 was trying to do [03:13] earthling_: it's fun but good for getting persistent images TV != LCD monitor [03:13] i gotta find out how to find out my graphics card, will be back:) [03:13] and im paranoid about those things [03:13] its good for streaming netflix to TV [03:13] 5 minutes wit same image in LCD tv "oh nooooo" [03:13] :) [03:14] actually I use it with my laptop [03:14] different OS [03:14] earthling_: you should remove panels then [03:14] turbotax doesn't support linux [03:14] yet [03:14] what is turbotax [03:15] tax software [03:15] in US [03:15] income tax [03:16] panels, hmm [03:16] lol [03:16] USA blows [03:16] :( [03:16] govermnent [03:16] at least. [03:16] haha [03:17] the countrywhere the best and worst happens [03:17] I think no govt is perfect [03:17] yes but USA gov is a bunch of puppies [03:17] mentally sick [03:17] I would love to change things, but I am just 1 man [03:17] earthling_: kill the media and youll change society [03:18] easier said than done [03:18] :) [03:18] but the reporters will say they are objective [03:18] hahaha [03:18] and just trying to report the facts [03:18] hahaha [03:18] fox news :) [03:18] :) [03:18] "fair and balanced" [03:18] even CNN is full of bs [03:18] :) [03:19] and all TV stations from all over the world copy their news.. false info fte [03:19] ftw [03:19] its interesting, depending on who you ask, the media has a "liberal bias" or "conservative bias" [03:19] here [03:19] I'm using : VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] , and im on a t42 ibm thinkpad laptop [03:20] earthling_: politics are actor in real life basically. [03:20] Guest80327: try #ubuntu [03:21] more ppl [03:21] ok thanks [03:21] Shakespeare said we are all actors on a stage [03:22] "we are all actors" marlon brando [03:22] "the dogs are the best" [03:22] ones* :) [03:22] I think dogs are more honest than humans [03:23] humans can be deceptive [03:23] especially when money is involved [03:23] because money = wealth and hapinness [03:23] money rules ppl lives [03:23] sad [03:23] story [03:23] there is a lot of incentive to lie if it is rewarded [03:24] yep [03:24] and honest person wont get much but hate [03:24] an* [03:24] he will get called a troublemaker [03:24] or goody goody [03:24] lol [03:25] or naive [03:25] earthling_: do you know anything about hardware? [03:25] some [03:25] earthling_: im connecting led cables to motherboard [03:25] the pin thing shows an arrow [03:25] what does that mean [03:26] led light cables for decoration? [03:26] arrow = number 1? [03:26] or indiciation lights? [03:26] no the leds for computer case [03:26] indiciation [03:26] yes [03:26] oh [03:26] I don't really build computers, but I replace parts now and then [03:26] motherboard says nothing about the "arrow" symbol [03:27] the manual i mean [03:27] is there a manual on website? [03:27] of motherboard [03:27] or cable [03:28] other than one you have [03:28] earthling_: MB manual only shows the pins' numbers [03:28] connectors [03:28] you could look at google images of already finished ones [03:29] http://www.techimo.com/forum/storage-related/32984-cant-tell-positive-negative-motherboard-wiring.html [03:29] gonna try to read the text on the motherboard [03:30] good luck [03:34] it just identify the stuff to connect [03:35] oh [03:35] found something http://www.techiehq.net/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=82730 [03:52] reset and power led working [04:04] =) [06:37] is there a way to automate scp to copy files to a remote system? i was going to use crontab, but i'm not sure about the password === inpressi is now known as easwar === wolfpack is now known as Guest59888 === Guest59888 is now known as wolfpack [09:05] Hello. [09:33] hi s-fox [09:35] Hello earthling_ . How are you? [09:36] good and you? [09:37] wats up people [09:37] Just got Ubuntu [09:38] and man has it impressed [09:38] wanted to ask a few questions [09:38] Firstly WUBI installation vs Full Installation? [09:38] Which is better [09:39] Does WUBI installation effect performance? [09:39] a lot? [10:09] hello djxcqtion [10:09] I would stay away from Wubi [10:09] if you want both just do a dual-boot [10:12] * FractalSquirrel waves to all. [10:18] Anyone awake? [10:20] yes FractalSquirrel [10:20] How goes with you this (Local Time)? [10:21] FractalSquirrel: My timezone is UTC + 5.30 [10:22] haha, I am -6.00 [10:24] Half hour incriments make it confusing imo. [10:25] -7 with DST here. [10:33] got a question, I've been looking online, but haven't found a working workaround. I've got Ubuntu Netbook Remix on an HP Mini 1116nr. Usually during bootup it gives an screen full of error messenge: udev worker (number) did not accept message kill it. The person this netbook will be going to would freak out seeing that as she has trouble with mental illness. [10:33] Is there a way I can hide that screen during boot? === Vetinari is now known as lukjad [16:13] * JackyAlcine will be right back. [18:09] hi all [18:09] ready for help [18:10] yupz [18:11] i meant ready *to help [18:11] me :) [18:11] what can i do for you? [18:13] nothing right now :) [18:13] aztek: I have a question [18:14] why would I need the Magic SysRq [18:14] ? [18:15] that's usually used as an emergency interface to the kernel if the system is mostly locked up [18:15] hmm [18:16] !sysrq [18:16] In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [18:16] oh I see [18:17] yofel: usually I just press reset :( [18:17] didnt know about that [18:17] pretty good [18:17] yofel: so I keep alt+print down and then type earch key at a time? [18:18] yes [18:18] this is like ctrl+alt+del in windows? [18:18] :-) [18:18] before doing that you might try K too, that will kill X [18:19] bdfhjk: no, we have ctrl+alt+del too [18:19] sysrq are direct kernel instructions [18:19] so it is 'stronger' ? [18:20] R = get keyboard focus, E = terminate all apps, I = kill all apps, S = sync all disks, U = remount all disks read-only, B = immediate reboot [18:20] note: nothing prevents you from pressing alt+print+b - except common sense [18:21] for me usually alt+print+k and ctrl+alt+del is enough to reboot (K = kill everything on current terminal, usually X) [18:22] I must admit that I did not know about it so far. Thank you yofel for the clarification [18:22] I will read about it [18:29] hi every1. i need help regarding mounting of ntfs filesystems. [18:34] can you describe your problem in more details? Maybe i can help you [18:41] udayan_, ? [18:52] I had Windows XP which due to some reason crashed after which i installed ubuntu 8.10. while on windows i had 50gb of data which i cannot access. one of the partition i formatted to ext3 but it shows the following message when i try to mount it: the mount point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATE (usually /). [18:52] For the other partition it shows an error saying that i do not have the privilege to mount it. [18:53] mounting only with sudo [18:54] i dnt knw. i jst rght cliked on the partition and tried mounting option [18:55] and if you try to install ubuntu 10.10? Maybe the ntfs-tools are to old? [18:55] i wud be doing that in a couple of days... [18:56] hi people [18:56] i need help with something [18:56] because Ubuntu 8.10 isn't supported anymore [18:56] hi asterismo [18:57] in case i upgrade to 10.10. aft that wat procedure should i follow [18:57] i installed maverick i386 recently and the default user is "observer" [18:58] then i created an other user called "santiago" [18:58] then i gave administrator permissions [18:58] like observer [18:58] udayan_, the best way would be a new installation [18:58] udayan_, did you use a seperate home partition? [18:58] and then i realized that i can not mount my externa 500GB uab disk [18:58] usb* [18:59] asterismo, is user "santiago" in group wheel? [18:59] it is recognized by disk utility, and i can mount and unmount it [19:00] wheel is the name? [19:00] only have group www-data [19:00] adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare that are all groups my user is in (default ones) [19:00] yup. ubuntu is on separate partition. no files other than ubuntu system files are there on it. [19:00] the disk does not appear in nautilus devices [19:00] i think something like plugdev could be the reason [19:01] udayan_, did you specialise the partitions manually or did you let ubuntu create them? [19:01] i am on that groups [19:01] plugdev... [19:01] manually. [19:02] so did you specify one for / and one for /home? [19:02] i cant acces to the disk starting gksudo nautilus, then the disk appears in nautilus devices [19:02] but not from my regular user [19:03] asterismo, on console use the command groups with both users and look if both are in the same groups [19:04] no [19:04] and after adding a user to a group you need to log in new [19:04] udayan_, ok then you need to backup your data before upgrade, a direct upgrade would be possible but i can't make sure that everything will work fine [19:05] even i think so. dat wud less cumbersome than exploring further. [19:06] i will try this [19:06] thanks!! [19:06] btw if force mount is done wat r the chances of data loss [19:07] puh, i don't know maybe someone else in this channel would know that? [19:08] okey dokey. thanks a lot buddy!! === Guest28722 is now known as Guest460372 [19:22] If screen is locked is it possible to use the Magig SysRsc key? [19:24] rcconf: sometimes it will work, yes [19:25] Hello! I was in there a couple of days ago, with a "wrong fs type" problem when trying to mount a hard drive. Still not having any luck with it :-( [19:26] One partition is clean according to the ubuntu disk utility, and the other isn't - wondered if this is why I can't mount it? [19:26] rcconf: I normally try Alt+SysRq+k first, when it locks up. That closes anything on the desktop without saving it, but many times I can log back in with out a full restart then. [21:06] hello, how is everyone? [21:06] when i try to run a command with "sudo" i get this error [21:06] sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0640, should be 0440 [21:06] sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting [21:07] anyone have any idea of a solution? [21:07] hello [21:07] Shyster: your user should be in sudoers? [21:08] Shyster: try man visudo [21:08] sudo visudo [21:08] to make changes [21:08] Shyster: hm. does sudo still operate correctly (and just give you the warning)? [21:09] visudo: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied [21:09] visudo: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied [21:09] no [21:09] worked fine untill earlier today [21:10] your use is not un super users list [21:10] rcconf: That's not it [21:10] Shyster: did you type "sudo visudo" [21:10] rcconf: The file has the incorrect permissions [21:10] hm [21:11] kyleslone@kyleslinuxlaptop:~$ sudo visudo [21:11] sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0640, should be 0440 [21:11] sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting [21:11] Shyster: Hm, this may be a problem. The way I would have normally fixed this would be to sudo chmod /etc/sudoers 0440 [21:11] but i cant ran any sudo commands [21:12] Shyster: The way you have to fix it this time around, though, is to reboot into recovery mode (it's one of the options in your GRUB menu), which logs you into root [21:12] Shyster: And then chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers [21:13] ah ok [21:13] i will give it a try [21:14] i was try to join the domain with this linux box here at work must have tweeked the wrong thing lol [21:19] lole [21:21] is there a way to select in terminal using keyboard only? [21:21] text [21:23] shadeslayer, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/likewise-open.html [21:23] er? [21:24] sorry [21:24] oh, shyster quit [21:24] and my connection lags alot [21:26] hm [21:48] hey, I'm stuck installing a package on ubuntu, i'm very new to it and don't know how to do it, is this the right place to ask? thanks :) [21:49] sealance: sudo apt-get install packagename [21:50] thats the problem, its slightly more complicated that that, I'm installing it on an ubuntu laptop without internet, the program i was told to install was wicd, so I downloaded a tar.gz and now I'm trying to install it, but I just don't understant how to [21:53] sealance: do you have a live CD? [21:54] the iso image i downloaded was burnt into a USB stick, my laptop's cd doesen't work [21:54] I can burn it on my pendrive again if its needed [21:54] tar zxvf wicd-asdsad.tar.gz [21:54] cd wicd [21:54] ./configure [21:54] make [21:54] make install clean [21:54] but why wicd? [21:54] sealance: do you want wicd to connect to wireless? [21:55] sealance: you make a usb live cd [21:55] well, my wireless card on ubuntu has never worked, so I filed a ticket and they told me to use ndiswrapper, which apparently doesen't work either (well I don't really know, the guy just abandoned teh ticket), so I came here and they told me to use wicd [21:55] no need for cds [21:56] sealance: you can use ndiswrapper to install windows wireless drivers [21:56] sealance: make a usb live [21:56] boot and check if it detects the wireless [21:56] asdsadasd [21:56] some needs a teaching [21:57] wicd wont fix your problem [21:57] right, thats what they told me, so I installed a windows driver for my wireless card but it didnt seem to pick up any wireless signals [21:57] sealance: did you reboot? [21:57]