[07:38] <nigelb> morning dholbach :0
[07:38] <nigelb> :)
[07:38] <dholbach> good morning
[07:38] <dholbach> hi nigelb
[07:38] <nigelb> dholbach: ubuntu global jam bootcamp today \o/
[07:39] <dholbach> yeeeeeeeeehaw
[08:58] <kim0> Morning everyone
[08:58] <kim0> dholbach: nigelb  o/
[09:14] <dpm> morning all
[09:14] <kim0> dpm: morning man :)
[09:14] <dpm> hey kim0
[09:55] <nigelb> hey kim0, dpm :)
[10:02] <duanedesign> morning friends
[10:02] <dpm> heya nigelb, heya duanedesign :)
[10:07] <duanedesign> that is a pretty good yeehaw dholbach, me thinks you would fit in pretty good here in OKlahoma :)
[10:13] <dholbach> duanedesign, I'm not sure about that :)
[10:13] <nigelb> duanedesign: hehe
[10:14] <duanedesign> ;)
[10:14] <nigelb> ok, mailed all instructors for the bootcamp \o/
[10:15] <nigelb> duanedesign: do you know of more app developers who might be interested in talking at ubuntu app developer week lightning talks?
[10:16] <duanedesign> hmm
[10:18] <duanedesign> nigelb: gaurav took my Randy project and ran with it. Not a big app but he did practically the whole thing himself.
[10:18] <nigelb> duanedesign: tazz?
[10:18] <nigelb> or someone else :)
[10:19] <duanedesign> nigelb: i think someone else, He would kill me, i keep forgetting his last name :P
[10:19] <nigelb> duanedesign: lawl
[10:19] <duanedesign> gaurav_pawaskar
[10:20] <nigelb> ok, don't know him
[10:36] <dpm> dholbach, wow, impressive results from the green party in Baden-Württemberg and Rheinland Pfalz last night
[10:37] <dholbach> dpm, yeah - let's hope they change things for good :)
[10:37] <dpm> :)
[11:45] <duanedesign> ummm, where would I find an IRC op for #ubuntu?
[11:45] <popey> duanedesign: in #ubuntu-ops
[11:45] <duanedesign> cool
[15:28] <MeanEYE> Hello!
[15:35] <kim0> MeanEYE: hey o/
[15:36] <MeanEYE> haha <3 love the emoticon :P
[15:36] <MeanEYE> hi theres
[15:37] <MeanEYE> sup
[15:41] <kim0> :)
[15:46] <czajkowski> akgraner: did you see AW yesterday? was it as agood as we were lead to believe?
[16:01] <czajkowski> akgraner: not an easy one to watch :(
[16:01] <jono> kim0, all set?
[16:02] <kim0> jono: yeah
[16:02] <MeanEYE> oh, something happening in #classroom?
[16:03] <MeanEYE> jono: btw, I got in contact with lernid project owner. I'll be starting soon with fixing that stuff.
[16:03] <jono> kim0, I can hear you
[16:03] <kim0> I cna't
[16:03] <jono> you should be able to hear me, my mic is working
[16:04] <jono> check your pulse settings
[16:09] <jcastro> MeanEYE: heck yeah, just take it and rock it
[16:09] <MeanEYE> :)
[16:10] <MeanEYE> lot's of butchering though, but I'll live
[16:10] <MeanEYE> had worse projects in my life. any special requests on that part?
[16:30] <dpm> jcastro, what's the name of the unity replacement for the gnome notification area? I've seen unity menu mentioned somewhere, is that it?
[16:31] <MeanEYE> global menu perhaps?
[16:31] <MeanEYE> sorry for intruding :)
[16:32] <jcastro> dpm: there's really no replacement
[16:32] <jcastro> it's just the indicators
[16:32] <jcastro> unless you were looking for the word "indicators", heh
[16:33] <dpm> :)
[16:34] <dpm> jcastro, so there's no "indicator area", "unity menu" or such thing, just "that corner where indicators happily live"?
[16:35] <jcastro> yeah it's just "Indicators" as far as I know. I guess you could call it indicator area.
[16:37] <dpm> ok, just wondering if there was an official name
[16:38] <jcastro> not afaik
[16:39] <jcastro> dpm: JohnLea or tedg might know if there is, but I've never heard to it officially named as anything but the indicators
[16:39] <jcastro> dpm: if they tell you otherwise let me know!
[16:39] <dpm> ok :)
[16:41] <MeanEYE> did anyone thought about idea of creating IRC client that wouldn't look like one and directly making it available on Ubuntu web site as a way to get tech support?
[16:42] <jcastro> right now we embed the freenode web client
[16:42] <MeanEYE> oh, nice. did you see GTK 3.2 preview with ability to serve applications through http?
[16:43] <jcastro> yeah
[16:43] <MeanEYE> <3 can't wait for that to happen
[16:46] <MeanEYE> anyway if you feel like making a separate IRC client used only for tech support do let me know, I might get some more free time for that as well :)
[17:01] <jcastro> popey: that bug is a dupe
[17:01] <jcastro> someone brought up the pornview thing in a dash bug before
[17:02] <popey> heh
[17:03] <jcastro> I hate everything about that feature though
[17:03] <jcastro> the recommending apps
[17:12] <dholbach> we recommend pornview?
[17:12] <dholbach> nice, can't wait for the CC to be subscribed to the bug :)
[17:12] <jussi> dholbach: come again?
[17:13] <czajkowski> dholbach: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/708045
[17:13] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 708045 in software-center "[software-center] `unattended` == PornView" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[17:13] <Pici> !info pornview
[17:14] <Pici> :|
[17:14] <Pici> Well, its there, just hiding.
[17:15] <jono> dholbach, sorry on a call
[17:15] <jono> wont be long
[17:16] <dholbach> jono, afaik our call starts in 15m?
[17:16] <jono> dholbach, yeah, I mean I might be late
[17:16] <dholbach> gotcha
[17:17] <jussi> I can see that bug going really bad places after the way its started. sadly.
[17:24] <jcastro> <--- lunch
[17:25] <vish> pornview "issue" came up nearly than 6 months ago too, when descriptions was being discussed. and MOTU said there is nothing that can be done and that they wont block such packages based on names
[17:28] <vish> there is also Bug 739469
[17:28] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 739469 in unity-place-applications "Dash search unavoidably returns offensive results" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/739469
[17:32] <jono> dholbach, all set
[17:32] <dholbach> jono, me too
[17:50] <dholbach> ok my friends
[17:50] <dholbach> I call it a day
[17:50] <dholbach> have a great rest of your day and see you tomorrow
[17:51] <nigelb> g'nite dholbach :)
[17:52] <dholbach> bye nigelb
[18:21] <komputes> Does anyone know who I would contact to remove the "The deadline for sponsorship closes on 8th September 2010." footer on http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/sponsorship/
[18:23] <nigelb> jcastro: ^^
[18:23] <jcastro> where does it say that?
[18:23] <jcastro> Sponsorship Requests close on 29 March 2011.
[18:23] <pleia2> it's an html comment which firefox is showing on the site
[18:24] <jcastro> I don't see that in FF either
[18:24] <pleia2> shows up in the FF on lucid
[18:25] <doctormo> pleia2: I can confirm Firefox on Maverick shows it too
[18:25] <nigelb> See? You all haven't upgraded :p
[18:25] <nigelb> I don't see it in FF4
[18:25] <pleia2> nigelb: this is my work computer :)
[18:25] <dpm> jcastro, jono, ok ubuntu development api documentation is now available on the links at http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ - I'll send an e-mail with the summary tomorrow
[18:25] <doctormo> nigelb: After I made a blog post ranting about mozilla? Did you think I would upgrade ;-)
[18:25] <dpm> (and there goes another WI done ;)
[18:26] <nigelb> doctormo: PPA :D
[18:26] <jcastro> dpm: nice, that unblocks me for Places docs, thanks!
[18:27] <jono> dpm, nice!
[18:27] <jono> jcastro, btw, there is no Places doc links on the wiki.ubuntu.com Ayatana or Unity docs
[18:28] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses
[18:28] <jcastro> ?
[18:29] <jcastro> oh, there's no link on /Unity
[18:29]  * jcastro fixes
[18:29] <nigelb> jono: if you have a min, can you tweet about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJamBootcamp ?
[18:29] <nigelb> jono: its happening right now :)
[18:30] <jono> nigelb, done, and Facebooked!
[18:32] <nigelb> jono: thanks :)
[18:33] <JanC> the fact that that comment is shown is a (very common) browser bug
[18:33] <nigelb> actually, I'm not sure its commented properly
[18:33] <nigelb> it looks to me like that the comment for that line isn't closed
[18:34] <JanC> although, thinking about it, it's probably not valid HTML either  ;)
[18:35] <nigelb> Yeah, I'm guessing its a difference of quirks mode
[18:39] <jcastro> fixed it
[18:40] <JanC> well, I'm not sure about XHTML, but I *think* it's actually a valid HTML (= SGML) comment, so then it would be a browser bug...
[18:40] <nigelb> JanC: validity of html is based on the doctype on the first line
[18:42] <JanC> nigelb: I think it was actually valid, but the SGML rules for parsing comments are somewhat complicated, and many browsers get it wrong
[18:43] <nigelb> but this page is transitional xhtml, so xhtml 1.0 and html 4.01 rules apple
[18:44] <JanC> it was both a valid SGML and a valid XML comment, so the difference doesn't matter
[18:58] <jcastro> jono: all set, just ring whenevs
[19:00] <jono> jcastro, just wrapping a blog entry
[19:00] <jono> will be a few mins
[19:11] <cjohnston> jcastro: do you have a bunch of packages that are being help back on updates?
[19:12] <jcastro> nope
[19:15] <cjohnston> hmm.. i have a whole bunch of libs that it isnt letting me update
[19:15] <jono> jcastro, http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/03/28/balancing-freedom-and-functionality-a-design-challenge/
[19:15] <jono> jcastro, ok all set
[19:16] <jcastro> all set
[19:16] <jono> jcastro, got voicemail on skype
[19:17] <jcastro> oh whoops
[19:17] <jcastro> I closed it
[19:17] <jcastro> all set
[19:43] <komputes> thanks jcastro
[20:28] <popey> i have filed quite possibly the most embarrasing bug ever
[20:28] <popey> bug 744475
[20:28] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 744475 in vlc "Vlc has a cone where the menu would be" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/744475
[20:28] <popey> I am ready for the ridicule
[20:29] <popey> also, a serious bug which is probably going to be a wishlist bug 744511
[20:29] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 744511 in unity "grid doesn't cater for dual screens" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/744511
[20:29] <popey> shame though
[20:30] <Pici> But the cone wears a hat during the holidays
[20:56] <jcastro> popey: I read a tweet
[20:56] <jcastro> where 2 people were in a car
[20:57] <jcastro> and one of them was like "avoid that VLC thing" when talking about traffic cones on the road
[20:57] <jcastro> I LOLed
[20:57] <popey> haha
[21:53] <mhall119> is there a website for collecting feedback about ubuntu?
[21:53] <mhall119> things like "I tried to do X, but I couldn't figure out how"
[21:53] <mhall119> or "I really liked Y, but Z would make it even better)
[21:54] <MeanEYE> mhall119: well, some things you can put in brainstorm.ubuntu.com like your ideas on how to improve something
[21:54] <mhall119> I'm thinking of feedback that's less well defined than brainstorm is looking for
[23:15] <Technoviking> Natty hates me
[23:16] <MeanEYE> Not true!
[23:21] <Technoviking> how to you rerestart unity from the command line?
[23:22] <MeanEYE> Unity 3d?
[23:22] <Technoviking> yup
[23:26] <MeanEYE> I think it's a compiz plugin. Is it not?
[23:26] <pleia2> hmm, does Ubuntu Certification (UCP) still exist as a cert? I see training partners offering "Ubuntu Professional" courses but it's unclear whether there is still a Cert
[23:41] <popey> unity --restart
[23:42] <popey> @ Technoviking
[23:42] <popey> no
[23:42] <popey> unity --reset
[23:43] <MeanEYE> popey: would compiz --replace work?
[23:43] <popey> pass