RAOFchrisccoulson: What are you doing up :)  Isn't it like 2am Sunday or something?00:00
* RAOF pulls from bzr.00:00
chrisccoulsonheh, it's not quite that late for me just yet ;)00:02
chrisccoulsonit's midnight here now00:02
chrisccoulsoni'm all messed up tonight because of daylight saving00:03
* bryceh waves00:06
RAOFbryceh: Good morning.00:07
RAOF / evening.00:07
RAOFAt least unity gets respawned after crashing now.00:11
brycehhey RAOF00:13
brycehRAOF, by chance have you poked through fedora's patches to see if they have anything interesting we're missing?  (guessing there isn't anything major)00:14
RAOFbryceh: I haven't, but I'd be willing to go digging today5.00:16
brycehRAOF, great, yeah00:17
brycehRAOF, also dunno if you saw the discussion but sarvatt noticed friday that ia32-libs has an old snapshot of mesa in it00:23
brycehand he's pinpointed that at least some of the sandybridge gpu lockups on amd64 are caused by that00:23
RAOFbryceh: That's probably because yokozar hasn't refreshed it yet.00:23
brycehso now I'm wondering what other reported bugs might be due to it00:23
RAOFHm.  Hurray for Oneiric and the obliteration of ia32-libs!00:23
RAOFOh, man.  If that ends up being the reason why this always crashes…00:36
brycehpotentially I could imagine same issue is at heart of some of the screen corruption issues00:37
RAOFProtip: C++ does not implicitly initialise member variables to 0.  If you're going to use null as a guard value before calling into a pointer, initialising it to NULL in the constructor makes it less likely to crash by calling off to a random memory address :/00:46
brycehC doesn't do that either afaik?00:47
RAOFNo, it does not.00:47
RAOFWell, except for static variables.00:47
brycehRAOF, aha it's due to missing support for >4096x4096 render targets on arrandale01:05
brycehSarvatt, ^^01:05
RAOFWho'se rendering to >4096x4096 targets?  (Apart from my LCD's now broken EDID suggesting it's that big)01:06
brycehRAOF, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3568201:06
ubot2Freedesktop bug 35682 in Drivers/DRI/i965 "[Arrandale] support for >4096x4096 render targets" [Major,New]01:06
RAOFModes: 3840x1080…  Why don't I have one of those? :)01:08
stgraberthat screen must be quite large, then twice the 1080p res in width but usual height01:13
rickspencer3robert_ancell, TheMuso, RAOF,  jasoncwarner, happy Monday01:37
robert_ancellrickspencer3, Happy Monday to you too!  Welcome to the future!01:37
rickspencer3I'm in the airport waiting to fly to London, so I am really in the land of no time01:37
rickspencer3robert_ancell, how's natty looking for you?01:38
robert_ancellrickspencer3, on and off unstable, I haven't tried the Beta release yet.  I'm going to do a fresh install when we get the cd image01:40
rickspencer3robert_ancell, it's really stable for me, and even the dash is working really well01:40
robert_ancellrickspencer3, are you going to do an update of you spiderweb (?) diagram01:40
rickspencer3robert_ancell, yeah01:40
rickspencer3it's actually kinda time consuming, and tbh, I didn't really realize anyone looked at it ;)01:41
rickspencer3but that's kinda why I'm asking, except for accessibility, Natty is working well for me on both 'puteres01:41
robert_ancellI get alt-tab crashers, and have had general problems.  I'm using radeon, which sounds like it has the most problems.  The dash has always been slow for me, and I don't really find it useful01:41
robert_ancellI love the panel and the fullscreening though01:41
rickspencer3robert_ancell, so, now I can do Meta key, type a few letters, hit enter01:42
rickspencer3apps launch really fast this way01:42
rickspencer3you're not having a similar experience, it sounds like01:42
robert_ancellrickspencer3, yeah, but I'm not sure if that's useful for standard users.  I feel like it's really hard to work out what applications are available01:43
rickspencer3robert_ancell, interesting01:43
rickspencer3because there are no categories?01:43
rickspencer3someone should make a categories place01:43
robert_ancellI think someone did, I'm sure I saw one on OMG01:43
rickspencer3but yeah, I guess you only get a list of all your apps01:44
robert_ancellinterestingly, I had the same experience when first using OSX, I wonder if they consider it to be a bad thing01:44
robert_ancellAlso, the three types of find apps on the dash seems very confusing.  I'd really only expect one...01:45
rickspencer33 types of apps?01:45
robert_ancellI get "Find Media Apps", "Find Internet Apps" and "Find More Apps"01:46
rickspencer3oh, right01:46
rickspencer3well, you can choose "applications" from the lanucher01:46
rickspencer3and you get mfu, installed, available for install01:46
robert_ancellAnd I just think, Uh, I just want some apps, I don't care where they come from!01:46
rickspencer3you can filter by type!01:47
rickspencer3it's hard to find01:47
rickspencer3if you click on "find more app"01:48
rickspencer3in the upper right you can filter by category01:48
rickspencer3robert_ancell, we should get your alt-tab crashers fixed01:49
robert_ancellrickspencer3, I haven't restarted since dist-upgrading, It may have gone :)01:49
rickspencer3that would be nice01:49
robert_ancellIt tends to toggle between upgrades01:49
rickspencer3well, there shouldn't be any new features, so there shouldn't be any more toggling for the rest of the cycle01:50
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hyperairsb levelclear -level clientcrap,crap,joins,parts,quits,nicks,clientnotice05:58
chrisccoulsongood morning everyone07:38
brycehheya chrisccoulson :-)07:44
chrisccoulsonhi bryceh, how are you?07:45
brycehchrisccoulson, good, just facebooking about this weekend's woodworking project07:45
chrisccoulsonnice! it seems like you had a productive weekend :)07:47
brycehchrisccoulson, yep and had an old college friend and his family over, had fun and our kids had lots of time to play and wear each other out07:50
pittiGood morning07:50
pittiRAOF: unity crashes about 3 or 4 times at start with various stack traces (reporting my latest one right now), after that it's pretty stable though07:53
RAOFpitti: Well, I hunted down the cause of why unity would crash when opening the dash or right-clicking on any of the launchers and proposed a merge.  Unity hasn't crashed since.07:55
RAOFI'll shout at DBO until the trivially correct fix is merged :)07:55
robert_ancellpitti, hey, has the beta CD been done?07:56
pittihey robert_ancell07:56
RAOFTheMuso: Incidentally, you're running out of time to endorse me for core-dev; the next DMB meeting is 19:00UTC (or, as I calculate it, 6am tomorrow ☺)07:56
pittirobert_ancell: it's due on Thursday, we don't have test candidates yet07:57
brycehRAOF, \o/07:57
robert_ancellpitti, so, should I upload GNOME releases (e.g. GTK3) or wait until after the CD?07:57
pittiRAOF: nice! my crash of the day is bug 744063, perhaps the trace sounds familiar07:57
pittirobert_ancell: gtk3 is fine, as it's not on the CDs07:58
robert_ancellpitti, and leaf applications like gcalctool?07:59
pittirobert_ancell: we might just keep them in the queue until Thursday08:00
RAOFpitti: Nah, that's not the crash I fixed.  I've seen it, though.08:00
pittirobert_ancell: but you can upload them08:00
robert_ancellpitti, and ok to upload thing like glib-networking/libsoup as well?08:01
* robert_ancell pushes his luck08:01
TheMusoRAOF: ooo right, keeps slipping my mind. Will do it this evening.08:03
RAOFIt's ok if you miss it; I've got a bunch of other endorsements.08:04
TheMusoHrm. Is it just me, or does pressing control + alt + shift maximize windows for others as well? Using compiz.08:10
RAOFNope, not for me.08:11
pittiTheMuso: not here08:15
TheMusoHrm ok, I'll have to reset my compiz settings and see if that helps.08:15
didrocksgood morning08:17
pittibonjour didrocks08:21
didrocksGuten Morgen pitti08:21
SweetsharkMorning all!08:28
pittihey Sweetshark08:30
pittiSweetshark: wie gehts?08:30
Sweetsharkpitti: Alles gut, und selbst?08:32
pittiSweetshark: prima, danke08:32
pittiSweetshark: we'll need to fix some transitional packages in openoffice.org-dictionaries08:33
pittiSweetshark: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/natty_probs.html, scroll all the way down08:33
pittiSweetshark: e. g. openoffice.org-hyphenation-ro depends: hyphen-ro, but hyphen-ro Conflicts: openoffice.org-hyphenation-ro08:34
pittiSweetshark: we need versioned replaces/conflicts here08:34
pittiSweetshark: i. e. Conflicts:/Replaces: openoffice.org-hyphenation-ro (<< 1:3.3.0-2ubuntu1)08:34
pittiSweetshark: hyphen-ro should conflict/replace the older packages which still actually had data/files in it, but it shouldn't conflict to the transitional package08:34
pittiSweetshark: do you have time to fix this, or shall I look into this?08:35
mvo*grumpf* I had no idea that blogging causes that much comment spam, what a mess08:35
pittiSweetshark: I guess this affects Debian as well08:35
pittimvo: akismet FTW08:35
pittimvo: it's really good08:35
pitti(and yes, spammers suck08:35
mvogreat, I have a look08:36
pittimvo: it's a wordpress plugin08:36
mvoI use wordpress.com directly, i.e. not my own instance08:36
pittimvo: hm, AFAIR they have plugins as well08:37
mvoaha, cool. it appears the comment section of the post is actually sane, its just that I have a gazillion mails about comment spam in my inbox :)08:37
pittimicahg, chrisccoulson: hm, why do we still build abrowser-branding and firefox-branding?08:40
pittioh, transitionals08:40
pittimvo: there are currently a lot of transitional packages which want to go to universe; I take it we should seed them and keep them in main until the next LTS, right?08:40
mvofor OOo? yeah, that would be good08:41
pittimvo: in general08:41
pittimvo: ok, I'll walk through http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.txt and seed the transitional bits08:42
chrisccoulsonhi pitti09:02
chrisccoulsonyeah, we need to keep those transitional packages until after the next LTS, to ensure users who used to have abrowser end up with firefox09:02
pittichrisccoulson: right, noticed a second after saying.. :)09:02
chrisccoulsonhmmm, i think a session restart is needed already09:07
chrisccoulsonafter compiz crashed about 4 times in half a minute, the bfb and launcher no longer works09:07
Sweetsharkpitti: k09:14
pittihey rodrigo_09:29
rodrigo_hi pitti09:29
seb128hello there09:38
seb128pitti, did you restart the retracers?09:38
pittiseb128: yes, and fixed the chroots09:38
seb128ok thanks09:38
seb128I was just looking at them because it seemed they didn't retrace for a while but they seem to be running09:38
seb128pitti, how are you? ;-)09:39
pittiseb128: I'm quite fine, thanks! currently sorting out natty archive problems09:39
pittiseb128: how about you?09:39
seb128pitti, I'm fine thanks, currently catching up with the weekend emails09:39
pittiseb128: spent some hours last night with my mother's ipod09:40
pittiseb128: this currently works rather poorly :/09:40
pittiI don't see it in RB, and nautilus keeps hanging09:40
seb128what generation, type of ipod is that?09:40
pittithe afc:// mounts work09:40
pittiseb128: ipod touch, how do I tell the generation?09:40
seb128no easy way, the format of what they write behind changed, but easier is "when did you buy it"09:41
pittiseb128: she got it from her company for christmas09:41
seb128ok, so likely the most recent one09:41
pitti"Model: PC544FD"09:42
seb128libgpod didn't get any update this cycke and doesn't seem actively maintained09:42
seb128libimobiledevice etc are also not getting lot of work09:42
seb128I would not be surprised if they didn't get what is needed for recent ones09:42
pittiseb128: I get a crash of the udev prober, I'll look at that one at least09:42
pittiit can't identify the ipod as such because of that, this might also be the reason why rb doesn't see it09:43
seb128could be indeed09:44
pittiseb128: is libgpod obsolete in favor of imobiledev?09:56
seb128pitti, no, libgpod is used for the ipod who don't use the afc protocol09:56
seb128which is all the "old" ones, classic, nanos, shuffle09:57
pittiseb128: ah, so this shouldn't even be necessary09:57
pitti(for rb)09:57
seb128right, I think it's not for yours09:57
pittihm, millions of "Syncdaemon service died"09:58
pittiand indeed this thing keeps restarting09:59
pittiseb128: fun, after I removed ubuntuone packages, it suddenly works now10:01
seb128urg, weird indeed10:01
pittiE: ID_MEDIA_PLAYER=apple_video-ipod10:03
pittigood 'nuff10:03
fta2pitti, is the retracer dead again?10:12
pittifta2: it was over the weekend, now catching up10:12
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pittiseb128: what's the current situation with cairo? can I help you with this (sorting out the ldconfig stuff?)10:36
seb128pitti, I've the debdiff from the other day but I need to sit down and think about what to do with the dev10:37
seb128pitti, especially with the .pc paths etc10:37
pittiseb128: it can't be a differently named .pc?10:37
seb128it's easy to drop a lib to use at runtime but I was not sure what to do for builds10:37
seb128pitti, what do you mean? so far I started with a "install the .so in a different dir and the -gl.pc in the dev"10:38
seb128but I'm not sure it will work10:38
pittiseb128: ah, -gl.pc10:38
seb128since applications might use cairo.pc and cairo-gl.pc10:38
pittiseb128: that would require changing the wayland packge to use cairo-gl.pc instead of cairo.pc, right?10:38
seb128but cairo.gl being the libcairo2-dev one it will not point to the right dir10:38
pittioh, there is already a cairo-gl.pc10:39
pittiseb128: woudl that actually matter? for apps which don't use cairo-gl, they can use libcairo2 as well?10:40
seb128pitti, well the wayland configure.ac check for "cairo" and "cairo-gl"10:41
seb128pitti, I'm concerned that builds will not work if they try to resolve symbols from the cairo-gl build10:41
seb128since the cairo.pc will point to /usr/lib10:41
seb128not /usr/lib/cairo-gl10:41
seb128and the .so is a symlink, it will not be changed by the ld hack10:42
seb128I was pondering now do a libcairo2-gl-dev with c,r,p libcairo2-dev and ship all the files rather10:43
pittiseb128: I think in this case libcairo2-gl-dev should ship all .pcs of libcairo-dev, and point to /usr/lib/cairo-gl/10:43
seb128that combined with using --libdir=/usr/lib/cairo-gl10:43
pittiwayland has versioned build-depends, so we'll need some diversions there10:43
pitti(instead of just a provides)10:43
pittihm, no, we could just change the build dep, we'll need that anyway10:44
pittiso a mere conflicts: should suffice?10:44
seb128right, just conflicts,replace then10:44
seb128then update wayland to use that one10:44
seb128it just starts filling a stack of hacks and that is would be much easier to just dump what we have in a ppa for natty10:45
rodrigo_vuntz, ping11:01
seb128rodrigo_, not sure but he might be travelling to gnome asia or already there11:15
rodrigo_seb128, ah, right11:16
seb128rodrigo_, you better context ping him so he can reply when he's around11:16
rodrigo_seb128, I'll send him a mail then, easier to reach each other via mail11:16
seb128dpm, hi11:16
seb128dpm, you indicator-datetime label being cut, does it happen under unity 3d?11:16
dpmheya seb128, on unity-3d it's fine, the problem is only on the classic desktop (no effects) session11:19
seb128dpm, oh ok, that might explain why most people don't get it11:20
seb128dpm, thanks11:20
dpmyeah, I'd run unity, but I cannot do it on my main pc due to bug 72649611:22
ubot2Launchpad bug 726496 in nvidia-graphics-drivers "Cannot use Unity or Classic desktop with effects after the latest nvidia+xorg update" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72649611:22
pittiSweetshark: just for coordination, are you working on the oo.o transitional conflicts, or want me to?11:24
seb128dpm, no worry, it's just that the bug description didn't make it clear it was specific to 2d11:25
Sweetsharkpitti: I had a look at it, but havent really gotten to the root cause.11:39
Sweetsharkpitti: hmm, openoffice.org-hyphenation-af depends on hyphen-af 3.3.0-7ubuntu1, but we only have 3.3.0-2ubuntu111:42
pittiSweetshark: hm, not here11:43
pittiPackage: openoffice.org-hyphenation-af11:43
pittiDepends: hyphen-af11:43
pittii. e. it's unversioned11:43
pitti(as it should be)11:43
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vuntzrodrigo_: pong12:07
rodrigo_hey vuntz, already in gnome.asia?12:07
rodrigo_vuntz, just wanted to ping you about https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63498812:11
ubot2Gnome bug 634988 in general "my computer is too fast" [Normal,New]12:11
rodrigo_vuntz, I've tried several things, even adding a sleep to gsd to force the problem in my not so fast computer, but I never able to replicate12:12
rodrigo_vuntz, so, any suggestion as to where to try next?12:12
vuntzI could check with desrt12:14
vuntzsince I'm with him12:14
vuntzbut he's sleeping on the floor right now12:14
vuntzdesrt: ping me when you wake up :-)12:15
Sweetsharkpitti: I really dont get it. I have hyphen-af installed, but cant install openoffice.org-hyphenation-af because "Depends: hyphen-af but is not going to be installed"12:29
Sweetsharkpitti: also natty_probs.html claims openoffice.org to be not installable, but it does here quite fine (and only depends on libreoffice anyway).12:35
desrtvuntz: my left hand is asleep12:41
desrtvuntz: ping!12:42
seb128hey desrt12:43
desrtseb128: what's up?12:43
seb128desrt, how are you?12:43
desrtmy left hand is asleep12:43
seb128desrt, <rodrigo_> vuntz, just wanted to ping you about https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63498812:43
ubot2Gnome bug 634988 in general "my computer is too fast" [Normal,New]12:43
desrtit's vuntz's fault12:43
seb128desrt, I think they wanted to talk to you about that one12:43
desrtah.  coool.12:43
rodrigo_desrt, yes, it is, we just ping you so that you force him to fix it :-)12:44
seb128new computers are not getting slower so extra users run into it ;-)12:44
rodrigo_desrt, vuntz wanted to do a quick test on your machine12:44
desrtit's my computer at home12:44
desrtand i have only my laptop with me12:44
vuntzyou should have brought it here12:44
desrtit was a bit large for my carry-on12:45
desrtand i don't trust the bag-throwers12:45
vuntzrodrigo_: so yeah, no good suggestion from me :/12:45
rodrigo_vuntz, ok, I'll keep trying other stuff12:46
vuntzrodrigo_: does gdm wait for gnome-session to exit before starting the user session?12:48
rodrigo_vuntz, seems so12:50
rodrigo_vuntz, also, I've added a sleep(10) to g-s-d to try to force the issue, but g-session seems to wait for it to finish12:50
desrtif you think about it, just about any way of gdm telling its g-s-d to quit is going to be asynchronous with respect to the X server12:52
desrteven kill -9...12:52
desrtbecause X doesn't necessarily notice right away that the process is dead12:52
desrtthere are basically two things we can do:12:52
desrt1) have some way to kill g-s-d such that we get a notice that X has definitely recognised that the XSettings provider has been unregistered12:53
desrt2) we take the code how it is now and if the registration of the Xsettings manager fails then we pause for a short time and try again12:53
desrt#1 is more correct, but #2 has the advantage that it doesn't introduce additional serialisation where we don't have it right now (thus slowing down login)12:53
rodrigo_desrt, I'm writing a patch to test #212:54
desrt#2 is definitely easiest :)12:54
desrtin my testing, 1 second of extra sleep is always enough to completely get rid of the bug12:55
desrtbut probably less is required12:55
desrtso sleep for 100ms is probably good if you try for 20 times or something12:56
rodrigo_desrt, I guess we can sleep for 1/2 a second, and do 2 or 3 tries12:56
rodrigo_yes, also12:56
dpmhey what's the best way to fix a string in a patch?. Could someone comment on bug 743928 and explain the submitter how to do it? He usually creates branches to upstream projects to fix them, but I think in this case he might have not done it because he might not have known how this works for fixes to patches in packages12:58
ubot2Launchpad bug 743928 in banshee "Ubuntu patches add untranslated strings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74392812:58
desrtrodrigo_: there may be a 3rd option12:59
desrtrodrigo_: depends if we can implement some sort of --replace functionality for XSettings12:59
desrti'm not sure how the spec works or if it would allow it13:00
rodrigo_desrt, hmm, I'll have a look13:00
desrtrodrigo_: i'm looking now13:02
seb128rodrigo_, while you are on g-s-d do you know why it doesn't respawn when it crashes? and why some applications drops their theme use but don't get it back when g-d-s is restarted?13:02
seb128desrt, ^13:02
seb128like xchat or nautilus stay without theme until restarted13:02
rodrigo_seb128, if it doesn't respawn, I guess it's because we don't mark it as respawned for gnome-session13:02
pittiSweetshark: (re from lunch)13:03
rodrigo_as for the apps not getting back the theme, no idea really, they should really get it afaik13:03
pittiSweetshark: right, that's the very problem we need to fix :)13:03
pittiSweetshark: hyphen-af must not have an unversioned conflicts/replaces to openoffice.org-hyphenation-af; it needs to be (<< 1:3.3.0-7ubuntu1)13:03
pittiSweetshark: uninstallable openoffice.org is due to main packages depending on universe ones; I'm currently sorting that out13:04
didrocksfta2: since Friday, I have chromium going made with a lot of javascript site, like google reader13:04
pittiSweetshark: do you know whether openoffice.org-hyphenation-lt works? (from ispell-lt source); it currently depends on OO.o, should the package be removed/updated/works as it is?13:05
desrtrodrigo_: the specification doesn't provide an explicit mechanism for replacing the existing settings manager, but from my reading it should be possible to do XSetSelectionOwner to blindly steal it13:05
seb128rodrigo_, the g-s-d .desktop has X-GNOME-AutoRestart=true13:05
pittiSweetshark: ah, see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=61756913:05
ubot2Debian bug 617569 in openoffice.org-hyphenation-lt "please rename to hyphen-lt" [Wishlist,Open]13:05
seb128rodrigo_, so I guess g-s-d session registration is broken13:05
desrtrodrigo_: maybe it's not such a good idea, though.  the check for an existing settings daemon is clearly legitimate -- not good to go blindly stomping13:06
rodrigo_desrt, yes, it will conflict with another g-s-d process already running13:06
rodrigo_seb128, hmm, is that only on natty?13:07
seb128rodrigo_, no13:07
seb128rodrigo_, it's nothing new, g-s-d crashes bug we usually get are described are GNOME dropping his theme13:08
seb128or it restarts but the xsettings are not updated13:09
rodrigo_seb128, I guess it might be the same issue as for desrt's bug13:11
pittiSweetshark: I'll fix ispell-lt to recommend libo | oo.o, this will stop pulling in the oo.o transitional metapacakge and fix the installability report13:11
rodrigo_so let me finish this (hopefully) fix, and we can test in both situations13:11
rodrigo_although I'm having lunch 1st, bbiab13:11
seb128it could be that it thinks that a settings manager is still running when respawned13:12
rodrigo_seb128, yes13:12
seb128rodrigo_, enjoy!13:12
rodrigo_thanks :-)13:12
desrtrodrigo_: so an idea13:12
desrtrodrigo_: you could check the _NET_WM_PID property of the existing selection owner13:12
desrtand if it is set, use it to 'check on' the process with this PID for 'signs of life'13:12
desrtie: not a zombie or something13:13
rodrigo_yes, will try that also13:13
rodrigo_but later, I'm out for lunch now, bbl :-)13:13
seb128hey mterry13:24
mterryseb128, hello!13:25
seb128mterry, how are you?13:25
mterryseb128, good, tracking down a bug in gtk+  :)13:25
seb128oh? which one?13:25
pittiwouldn't the correct response have been "there are no gtk bugs"?13:26
seb128pitti, ;-)13:26
mterryseb128, a bug that I found via indicator-datetime.  I haven't reported it yet, working on the smaller test case.  Note if you use the indicator-datetime prefs that if you are selecting a location in the locations dialog, it won't work if your mouse is hovering over the completion popup window13:26
mterryseb128, I have what seems to be a patch, but not sure if it's the best of all possible patches.  Will talk to upstrea13:27
seb128mterry, quite a corner case ;-)13:27
seb128mterry, if you get borred or want new challenges feel free to take one of those13:28
ubot2Launchpad bug 741488 in indicator-appmenu "unity-panel-service crashed with SIGSEGV in props_cb()" [Medium,New]13:28
mterryseb128, maybe, but it's making that interaction feel very unrobust, because it seems to work sometimes, not others13:28
seb128bug #72237513:28
ubot2Launchpad bug 722375 in wxwidgets2.8 "High CPU usage of wxWidget apps caused by dbusmenu" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72237513:28
mterryseb128, ok13:28
seb128the second one should be fun :p13:28
Sweetsharkpitti: ah, now I understand the hyphen-* openoffice.org-hyphenation-* issue.13:34
Sweetsharkpitti: Should I fix the stuff in openoffice.org-dictionaries?13:47
pittiSweetshark: if you have time for it, please13:47
pittiSweetshark: i. e. make the conflicts/replaces: versioned13:47
Sweetsharkpitti: should i bump dict to debian rev 3 too?13:50
pittiSweetshark: "dict"?13:51
Sweetsharkpitti: openoffice.org-dictionaries13:52
Sweetsharkdebian is at 3.3.0~rc10-3, we are at 2ubuntu113:53
pittiSweetshark: http://packages.qa.debian.org/o/openoffice.org-dictionaries/news/20110311T174946Z.html sounds wrong, though13:53
pittiSweetshark: the conflicts shouldn't be removed, but versioned13:53
pittiotherwise upgrades from lucid (or from Debian squeeze) will fail13:54
pittiSweetshark: so if you upgrade to that version, you'll need to add them back :)13:54
Sweetsharkso, I merge from -3 and replace renes changes with versioned conflicts?13:54
pittiSweetshark: the C/R: versioning should really be done in sid, and then merged over, but it would be nice to fix this today so that we can get this right for upgraders to beta-113:55
pittiSweetshark: I don't think it's worth merging now13:55
pittiit's harder to fix -3 than to fix -213:55
pittiSweetshark: versioned replaces, too, pleas13:55
* Sweetshark still has a checkout13:56
Sweetsharkpitti: there arent any versioned or unversioned conflicts from hyphen-* against openoffice.org-hyphenantion-* should I add a versioned conflict?14:02
pittiPackage: hyphen-fr14:03
pittiConflicts: openoffice.org-hyphenation-fr14:03
pittiReplaces: openoffice.org-hyphenation-fr14:03
pittiSweetshark: ^14:03
Sweetsharkdoh. I had the debian branch, not the ubuntu one14:10
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rickspencer3hey all14:24
seb128hey rickspencer314:24
pittihowdy rickspencer314:27
rickspencer3hey guys14:28
rickspencer3just got to London!14:28
desrtrickspencer3: you have time again!14:28
rickspencer3hi desrt14:29
rickspencer3desrt, I brought my codethink shirt!14:29
desrtbe sure to wear it a lot around mark14:29
pittirickspencer3: ok, beta release sprint or so?14:31
seb128ok, pitti tedg one of you broke nautilus14:31
seb128not sure who yet though14:32
seb128bug #74076514:32
ubot2Launchpad bug 740765 in nautilus "nautilus crashed with SIGABRT in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74076514:32
rickspencer3desrt, will do!14:32
seb128NAUTILUS_IS_VIEW (view) assert in nautilus_window_disconnect_content_view14:32
seb128those started on the 23 on which day you both did patch it14:33
rickspencer3pitti, well, a few things I wanted to get done, easier face to face14:33
desrtdinner time =)14:33
pittiseb128: doesn't ring a bell here, but feel free to assign to me14:34
tedgseb128, Yeah, I'd be surprised if my code did that as well... but let the blame game begin!14:34
seb128tedg, well, your patch created 2 other bugs at least in nautilus, I assigned those to you14:35
seb128tedg, hey btw ;-)14:35
seb128tedg, the desktop context menu lacks items now and some action group warning are printed as well14:35
Sweetsharkpitti: proposed patch: https://pastebin.canonical.com/45281/14:36
Sweetsharkpitti: The only thing missing seems to be openoffice.org-thesaurus-de, I guess that needs a fix in openthesaurus.14:37
tedgseb128, Ah, okay.  I'll probably be spending my whole day reviewing all the mterry branches though :-)14:37
pittiSweetshark: looks fine, thanks! feel free to change -7ubuntu1 to just -7, so that it's applicable to Debian as well14:37
seb128tedg, there is also a bug about indicator-appmenu making wxwidget application eat cpu14:38
seb128if mterry doesn't beat you to it while you review his previous fixes ;-)14:38
tedgHmm, okay.  That's interesting.14:38
* mterry files a bunch of junk branches to slow tedg down14:38
Sweetsharkpitti: fixed to be debiancompatible. Should I debuild and put it in a ppa?14:40
pittiSweetshark: or just put on chinstrap, will sponsor from there14:43
seb128pitti, ok, sorry but I think you win the nautilus crash bug the very first bug was opened on the revision before ted's change14:47
pittiseb128: heh, k :)14:47
seb128pitti, it seems it would be due to 17_disable_locked_automounting.patch14:48
seb128pitti, assigned to you anyway14:48
pittiok, will look14:48
seb128pitti, it "seems" from duplicate description to have something to do with copies or devices handling14:49
seb128like quite some people got it while copying files to or from devices14:49
ronocmterry, I was going to look at this now https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audacity/+bug/73145114:56
ubot2Launchpad bug 731451 in audacity "audacity not working in Ubuntu 11.04 (natty)" [High,Confirmed]14:56
ronocmterry, just want to make sure you are not taking this on also14:56
mterryronoc, awesome!  No I wasn't14:58
mvoSweetshark: mythes-en-us has a conflict against openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us, but that package is actually availlble as a transitional package. oculd you please add a (<< version-before-transitional) ?15:03
mvoto the conflict?15:03
seb128mterry, mpt: do you know if there is an open bug about the indicator-datetime add location entry behaviour being confusing?15:10
seb128mterry, mpt: like some users do type a name, "ie: london" and press enter15:10
ronocmterry, grand15:10
seb128without waiting for the list to make suggestions or notice that it does15:10
mptseb128, I reported half a dozen last week15:11
seb128I think bug #729791 is that issue15:11
mptseb128, I think that was one of them15:11
ubot2Launchpad bug 729791 in indicator-datetime "Cannot add multiple cities" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72979115:11
seb128mpt, ok, bug #740945 I guess15:11
ubot2Launchpad bug 740945 in indicator-datetime "Possible to add blank or non-existent locations" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74094515:11
mterryseb128, yeah, that one (740945) I was treating as the issue you described15:13
mterryseb128, mpt, I guess the desired result is to blank out the entry when they do that?15:13
mterryor just ignore the press is probably better15:13
mptmterry, how about completing to the first suggestion if there are any, or if there aren't, ignore the keypress entirely and keep editing.15:14
mptWould that work?15:14
mterrympt, I think so15:14
seb128well the thing is that it's not obvious you will get suggestions15:15
seb128I can type london and enter before getting any there15:15
mptseb128, in that case the keypress would do nothing, and then a fraction of a second later the menu would appear15:15
seb128and typing "London" enter should add the London location no?15:15
Sweetsharkmvo: already in the works for all openoffice.org-dictionaries and openthesaurus packages15:15
mptseb128, London Ontario? :-)15:16
seb128mpt, no, east london , eastern cape, south africa :p15:16
seb128(that's the first in the list)15:16
seb128mpt, but right, you have a point15:16
mptmterry, this might be pie in the sky, but is it possible to sort locations by probability or population or anything like that?15:17
mvoSweetshark: nice15:17
Sweetsharkmvo: thank pitti, he nudged me to do it ;)15:19
mterrympt, we don't have that data right now.  I have a branch filed to put the locations that actually share a prefix at the top15:19
mterrympt, that would be a good future wishlist item to file though15:20
seb128mterry, bug #74426115:24
ubot2Launchpad bug 744261 in unity-place-applications "unity-applications-daemon crashed with SIGABRT in raise() (dup-of: 738884)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74426115:24
ubot2Launchpad bug 738884 in unity-place-applications "unity-applications-daemon crash in unity_package_searcher_get_random_apps()" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73888415:24
seb128mterry, when did you restart your session?15:24
seb128mterry, it's supposed to be fixed since tuesday, did you restart since?15:24
mterryseb128, yup, this morning.  kamstrup was asking in #ayatana too15:25
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kklimondahey, any idea why pulseaudio just quits randomly?15:47
kklimondaI've launched it with --log-level=debug but I can see nothing out of place15:48
mvoSweetshark: when do you plan a new libreoffice upload? there is still this file overwrite problem that I would like to get fixed (I'm getting the latest source currently)15:52
mptmterry, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeAndDate?action=diff&rev2=28&rev1=2715:55
mptDoes that look right?15:55
mterrympt, I think so.  And if the user just focuses away, stopping the edit with, say "london" in the entry, should we just cancel the edit and ignore it?15:56
mptoh, poo15:57
mptgood catch15:57
mptmterry, if we blanked it out, that would be a little harsh if you misclicked while trying to click an item in the menu15:58
ftadidrocks, hey, what do you mean?15:59
mterrympt, we could select the first answer when it comes in later?  but if there are no answers, blank it?  In the former case, they may end up getting something they didn't expect though15:59
tedgseb128, WRT bug 741848 what do you think about backporting https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62265816:00
ubot2Launchpad bug 741848 in indicator-appmenu "Indicator-appmenu needs localization" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74184816:00
ftadidrocks, (wrt chromium)16:00
didrocksfta: I have a lot of javascript getting stuck those days in chromium (no issue in firefox)16:00
ubot2Gnome bug 622658 in gtk "GTK_STOCK_FILE Stock Label" [Trivial,Resolved: fixed]16:00
mptmterry, yeah. So how about we leave it as plain text, but discard it if you close the window without finishing it?16:00
ftadidrocks, hm, try with a fresh profile (--temp-profile)16:00
seb128tedg, oh right, I knew we discussed it previous cycle but I forgot it was a gtk thing16:00
didrocksfta: ok, will try16:00
mterrympt, seems like the discard would also be an unexpected action16:01
tedgseb128, Okay, I'll move it to a GTK task and link it then.16:02
mptmterry, so the lack of time next to it wouldn't be enough to show that it's not an understood location? maybe so16:02
seb128tedg, bug #657961 in fact then16:02
ubot2Launchpad bug 657961 in ubuntu-translations "stub menu not translated" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65796116:02
mterrympt, what about little red squigglies like a spellchecker or something16:02
mptmterry, or just color the whole thing red. Is there a theme-safe error color?16:02
seb128tedg, but well yes let's reassign the current one, I will backport that after beta16:02
mterrympt, color only solutions are bad for a11y16:02
seb128tedg, thanks16:03
tedgmpt, Not yet.  Symbolic icons will give us that :-)16:03
tedgseb128, Oh, I marked it a dup?  Is that okay, or did you want something else?16:03
seb128tedg, that's ok thanks16:03
mptmterry, how about a little error icon inside the trailing end of the field?16:03
Sweetsharkmvo: I have no concrete plan for the next natty upload yet.16:03
mterrympt, and only show it in this situation?  (when you focused away)  I suppose we could also do that for the "enter" case instead of the previous idea?16:04
mptmterry, I think highlighting the first result for the Enter case is probably a good idea regardless16:05
mptso yes, error icon only for the focus-away case16:05
mterrympt, OK, I can't see why this all wouldn't be technically possible, but I'll let you know if I find any issues16:06
mptmterry, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeAndDate?action=diff&rev2=29&rev1=2716:20
mterrympt, you could have multiple invalid rows if user edits existing locations.  but your edit reads like you expect just one16:22
mptoh, you're good16:22
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mptmterry, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeAndDate?action=diff&rev2=30&rev1=2916:28
ftadidrocks, so, does it work there?16:32
didrocksfta: didn't have time to test with this, will do that later16:32
ftadidrocks, btw, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/acroread.ogv16:33
ftaand http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/dash.ogv16:33
mterrympt, looks good.  Looking into implementing it though, GTK does not give us access to the popup window at all.  So I'm not sure I'm going to be able to force one to be always highlighted or even tell whether we should ignore an enter press or not.  I'm looking further, but it's discouraging so far.16:33
mterryCould always reimplement the work that GTK does a bit, but that would be a larger task16:34
mptmterry, ok, let me know if it's impractical, and we'll find a plan B16:34
mptThanks for being so thorough in reviewing it, you've saved us a lot of time :-)16:34
didrocksfta: first one, I would first check in the appmenugtk side16:35
didrocksfta: second one is known16:36
seb128mterry, tedg: ^ do you have any clue about the acroread video?16:37
tedgseb128, Uhm, they must build their labels somehow funny.16:38
ftadidrocks, ok, thanks. I just filed bug 744361 for the 2nd one then16:39
ubot2Launchpad bug 744361 in appmenu-gtk "acroread appmenu unreadable (no text)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74436116:39
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didrocksfta: thanks :)16:39
mterryseb128, I just disconnected for a second, but looks like I missed something?  what was that about the acroread?16:40
seb128mterry, bug #74436116:40
seb128fta, seems similar to bug #66464716:40
ubot2Launchpad bug 664647 in appmenu-gtk "acroread menu captions not transfered" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66464716:40
mterryseb128, yikes16:40
seb128seems we should just add acroread to the ignore list16:41
ftaright, looks the same16:41
mterrympt, I think I found a super hacky way to get access to the gtk locations popup, so we can probs rest easy17:04
mptmterry, brilliant17:05
seb128chrisccoulson, hi17:15
seb128chrisccoulson, how busy are you nowadays?17:15
mvopitti: is openoffice.org-dev current NBS?17:15
chrisccoulsonhi seb12817:16
chrisccoulsonseb128 - fairly, but i'm sure i can fit in some desktop work ;)17:16
seb128chrisccoulson, what do you work on? still natty work? xulrunner cleaning?17:16
mvopitti: I ask because its currently causing grief in the auto-upgrade tester and I wonder if we can get rid of it17:17
chrisccoulsonseb128 - yeah, mostly. also, i'm working a bit on firefox translations too17:18
seb128chrisccoulson, can you take on some libdbusmenu issues?17:18
chrisccoulsonsure, no problem17:18
seb128chrisccoulson, ok, you won bug #72918717:18
ubot2Launchpad bug 729187 in libdbusmenu "xchat - separators are shown as 'Label Empty'" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72918717:18
seb128chrisccoulson, thank you ;-)17:19
seb128tedg, ^17:19
seb128tedg, I'm bouncing a few issues chrisccoulson's way17:19
tedgAh, cool.  Thanks chrisccoulson!17:19
Sweetsharkannoying tmux crashes are annoying17:27
Sweetsharkpitti: there are some new changes files for openthesaurus and openoffice.org-dictionaries on chinstrap17:27
seb128mvo, could you add bug #713984 to your natty list?17:32
ubot2Launchpad bug 713984 in sessioninstaller "session-installer crashed with TypeError in _render_warning(): could not convert argument to correct param type" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71398417:32
seb128mvo, it seems to happen every time someone tries to use file-roller on a format which needs something to be installed17:33
pittiSweetshark: thanks, uploaded! will shepherd it through ASAP17:34
seb128mvo, https://code.launchpad.net/~gilir/sessioninstaller/defer-migration/+merge/46346 has a trivial typo fix waiting review for a while it seems if you want an easy review17:35
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mvoseb128: thanks!18:03
seb128mvo, you're welcome ;-)18:05
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seb128chrisccoulson, ok, I've added 2 dbusmenu_client_send_about_to_show() crashers with different stacktrace to your list as well since you started investigating one of those before18:06
seb128chrisccoulson, will be enough for today ;-)18:06
seb128or for this week mayb18:06
chrisccoulsonseb128 - cool, thanks. i look forward to it ;)18:06
mvoseb128: added a bugtask18:07
seb128tedg, mterry: bug #74389518:07
ubot2Launchpad bug 743895 in libdbusmenu "indicator-applet-appmenu crashed with SIGABRT in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74389518:07
seb128those "0 <= index && index < 24" asserts, are they supposed to be fixed by https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mterry/dbusmenu/741726/+merge/5488218:07
seb128mvo, thanks!18:08
mterryseb128, looks like those bugs are probably the same as my merge18:09
seb128pitti, can we still get uploads in today?18:09
tedgYeah, seems the same to me as well.18:09
mvothank you18:10
tedgmterry, Have you looked at bug 733050 at all?  The reporter says it's in rev 125, which was when you added the cancellable, but I can't see anything that'd cause an issue with nautilus.18:10
ubot2Launchpad bug 733050 in appmenu-gtk "appmenu-gtk 0.1.96-0ubuntu1 prevents desktop global menu (desktop appmenu in unity panel) from appearing" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73305018:10
seb128tedg, seems to be a race since if you restart nautilus it works18:11
pittiseb128: just upload, and then poke folks in #u-release18:11
pittiseb128: we built a first set of images for smoke-testing, but don't expect them to be the final ones18:11
seb128kenvandine, mterry: can one of you backport https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mterry/dbusmenu/741726/+merge/54882 to natty?18:12
mterrytedg, yeah, I haven't seen that bug, but I'm not sure why my cancellable would do that18:12
seb128seems it would filter out noise from other components18:12
kenvandineseb128, sure18:12
seb128so would be nice to get it in18:12
kenvandineseb128, for beta 1?18:12
seb128it seems to trigger sibabrt18:12
seb128kenvandine, yes, it's a small diff and it leads to random crash18:12
kenvandinewill do18:12
seb128got unity to crash on it twice in my guest session today18:12
tedgmterry, K, I'll assume it's not 125 and look around some more.  Blame the reporter ;-)18:13
seb128kenvandine, thanks18:13
mterrytedg, well...  the reporter seems technical enough to claim it with authority.  It's possible they actually compiled the two versions and tested18:13
tedgmterry, Yeah, it seems so.  I'll have to bisect it a bit.18:14
tedgmterry, It's a good place to start.18:14
tedgMaybe he meant 125 worked...18:15
pittididrocks: given how close we are to b1, I take it  that the remaining a11y stuff won't get done in time, so should I postpone them and we'll reconsider them for o?18:15
pittididrocks: (TheMuso said that we should better go with classic for some a11y profiles anyway)18:15
didrockspitti: yeah, seems that's the wisest and safest thing to do at this point18:15
seb128ok time for sport and dinner, I will be back later18:16
pittironoc: do you think you can do the rb->banshee upgrade testing this week in time for beta-1? (at that time a lot of people will upgrade)18:20
ronocpitti, sure I'm pretty happy with it now, Banshee are about to release 1.9.6 into natty, once that lands18:21
ronocI'll give it a run through18:21
pittironoc: ok, sounds like postponing to b2 then18:21
ronocpitti, the only thing really I had to test was that the player behaves properly with the menu, there was a task for jcastro to check if the tracklist importer was working as expected18:23
ronocpitti, i guess this is pretty important for task labelled as such18:24
pittididrocks: "get some plugins to be linked statically" (for compiz) -> is there still work needed there, or is it what it is now?18:24
didrockspitti: it should, but it depends on Sam's work and realistically, it won't be there18:25
pittididrocks: and it's an optimization, not functionality, right?18:26
didrockspitti: yeah18:26
pitti[smspillaz] implement improved borders & shadows (phase 2): INPROGRESS18:26
pittihm, isn't that done now?18:26
didrocksdon't know what's the phase 2  :/18:26
ronocguys anyone know who is the maintainer for clementine ?18:27
jcastroronoc: QA's going to write a test for the importer, and upstream hasn't had any bugs filed on it in a while, so I think it's good to go.18:27
pittididrocks: setting to done for now; they changed not too long ago, and now is UIF and all that anyway18:28
pitti[smspillaz] polish dialog and MT functionality: INPROGRESS18:28
pittithat's also open from alpha-3, dropping18:28
didrockspitti: smspillaz won't have the time to do that18:28
ronocjcastro, good stff18:28
ronocstuff even18:28
pittididrocks: right, postponing to o18:29
ronocjcastro, do you know who packages clementine for ubuntu?18:29
didrockspitti: thanks :)18:29
jcastroronoc:  -- Artur Rona <ari-tczew@ubuntu.com>18:30
ronocjcastro, ah thanks18:30
dpmhey kamstrup, I'm now generating docs weekly from the giraffe output and have the links on the d.u.c. server http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ ;-) did you have any luck talking to the vala guys re: that bug whereby the generated gir files were not correct (they had too many entries of the same type under a record, IIRC)?18:37
pittiSweetshark: yay! http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/natty_probs.html18:38
pittiSweetshark: all oo.o stuff gone (except transitional on arm), thanks18:38
dpmkamstrup, I'm basically using a workaround for the unity docs18:38
pittigood night everyone, Taekwondo o'clock18:40
bcurtiswxnite pitti18:41
ftashouldn't bug 743941 be re-assigned to libdbusmenu-gtk or something?18:43
ubot2Launchpad bug 743941 in indicator-weather "indicator-weather crashed with SIGABRT in raise()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74394118:43
ftapitti, fyi, apport-retracer completely messed up my install :P i had a bunch of -dbg and -dbgsym already, it installed zillions of -dbgsym (why so many?) last time i retraced a crash file with -g (as root), dropped some of my -dbg (why??), leaving me with an incomplete install requiring -f18:50
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micahgSweetshark: any idea why soffice.bin starts randomly?20:01
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mterrytremolux, are there any known bugs about not being able to click on anything in software-center except for the sidebar?20:43
tremoluxmterry: hmm, I don't think there are20:43
tremoluxmterry: what'd you do??20:43
* tremolux looks accusingly at mterry20:44
mterrytremolux, it probably doesn't like deja-dup being installed  :)20:44
mterrytremolux, accents stopped input processing20:44
tremoluxmterry: wha??20:44
mterrytremolux, just joking about all the other deja-dup related bugs20:44
tremoluxmterry: yeahhh20:44
tremoluxmterry: so you can select items in the sidebar, and does that change the view?20:45
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mterrytremolux, it's an invisible input window in the middle of the screen20:45
mterrytremolux, only with software-center20:45
mterrytremolux, if I move the window around, I can click on parts of it20:46
tremoluxmterry: ah!  listen, I had that happen for about a day!20:46
mterrytremolux, yeah, it does change the view.  But then I can only click on the view contents if I move the window to be out from under the invisible input window20:46
tremoluxmterry: and, it's not just software-center, it's everything20:46
mterrytremolux, but here, it's just software-center.  If I switch to another window, it's gone20:46
tremoluxmterry: yeah, a big empty "dead space" square in the middle of the screen20:46
tremoluxmterry: oh really?  when I saw it, it affected my editor, firefox, thunderbird...hrm hrm20:47
tremoluxmterry: I assume you are fully up to date?20:47
mterrytremolux, it's even outside the window.  Like I can't click on the titlebar and drag it if it'ss under the invisible window20:48
mterrytremolux, yeah20:48
tremoluxmterry: right20:48
tremoluxmterry: try switching to another workspace and see if an app there has the problem20:48
mterrytremolux, nope, all clear20:48
tremoluxmterry: tho... I dunno20:48
mterrytremolux, so do you want this on software-center (only software affected, and persists even after close/restart of s-c) or compiz with note about software-center-uniqueness?20:49
tremoluxmterry: good question, I guess I really don't think it's a problem in software-center specifically20:50
tremoluxmterry: when it happened to me, I checked for such a bug in compiz and other places, but found nothing20:51
tremoluxmterry: and it cleared on my next update, so I thought it was either fixed or...sunspots  :/20:51
tremoluxmterry: but as I said, for me, it affected all apps20:52
tremoluxmterry: and it did persist across reboots20:52
tremoluxmterry: so you pull another app in front of software-center, and the dead zone isn't there?  bring s-c back, and it is there, correct?20:53
tremoluxmterry: fwiw, I haven't seen any reports of this in incoming s-c bugs yet20:54
mterrytremolux, right20:55
mterrytremolux, OK, will file against compiz20:55
chrisccoulsonricotz, you're probably good to make your gjs build use the libmozjs package now if you like20:55
tremoluxmterry: k, thanks, and I will watch for any reports of this20:55
chrisccoulson(i think you were asking a few days ago)20:55
chrisccoulsonnothing is going to change much now, although we might add a pkg-config file20:56
tremoluxmterry: oh, and plz tell me the bug so I can follow it (or subscribe me if you want to)20:58
ricotzchrisccoulson, i see, i think i wait for the pkg-config file first, gjs should be changed first then which is in the natty repo, and then gnome-shell can be patched to use it21:01
ricotzchrisccoulson, this spidermonkey version is the current firefox4 one, right?21:02
chrisccoulsonricotz, yes, with some small changes21:04
chrisccoulsonricotz, the tarball release of mozjs has this change in which firefox doesn't have: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63020921:06
ubot2Mozilla bug 630209 in JavaScript Engine "Unsafe usage of JS_Compile*/JS_ExecuteScript in shell and tests" [Normal,New]21:06
chrisccoulson(which is an API break)21:06
chrisccoulsonbut it's a small one21:06
chrisccoulson(JSScript is not public anymore)21:06
mterrytremolux, now s-c is unresponsive and grayed out...  how do I get a trace from it in this state?21:07
chrisccoulsoni guess that walters already knows about that though21:07
mterrytremolux, if i force-kill it, will that cause apport to prompt me?21:07
ricotzchrisccoulson, ok21:07
tremoluxmterry: I'm not sure it will21:07
waltersi didn't actually21:08
mterrytremolux, is there a trick I can do?21:08
tremoluxmterry: I'm usually running from the terminal, so I can interrupt it and see where it's hung up21:08
tremoluxmterry: I don't know of one actually when it's launched normally  :(21:09
tremoluxmterry: unless it writes something out to ~/.cache/software-center/software-center.log ..21:09
tremoluxmterry: nah, I wouldn't think it would21:10
ricotzwalters, is this used by g-s?21:10
mterryoh well21:10
waltersi haven't actually tried gjs against the split release21:11
chrisccoulsonwalters, do you use JS_CompileScript/JS_DestroyScript?21:11
tremoluxmterry: if you know how you got that hang, you could start again from the terminal, but my guess is it will be hard to repro21:11
walterschrisccoulson: yeah, but only for /usr/bin/gjs21:12
waltersi will look at the bug21:12
mterrytremolux, yup.  :-/   subscribed you to bug 74453321:13
ubot2Launchpad bug 744533 in compiz "Invisible input window over software-center" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74453321:13
ricotzwalters, alright21:13
tremoluxmterry: thx!  so, you mention "dreaded invisible input" window, so, is that the symptom of that?  it's not over the full screen, just an area in the center?21:15
mterrytremolux, correct.  it's roughly 650x500 pixels21:15
tremoluxmterry: ah, so that's what I had then, sounds like the dimentions I saw also21:16
tremoluxmterry: so is that bug fixed now?21:16
tremolux(dimensions, heh)21:16
mterrytremolux, which one?  the "dreaded" one?  If it was a while ago, then yes.  That one tended to start at (0, 0) -- i.e. the top left corner -- though.21:17
tremoluxmterry: ah, ok, yeah, so what I saw was what you are seeing, it seems21:17
mterrytremolux, the invisible input window has come up a few times.  But I thought we'd seen the last of it a while ago21:17
tremoluxmterry: right21:18
tremoluxmterry: btw, I found that I couldn't mouse/trackpad scroll either if I had the cursor sitting over the "dead area"21:19
mterrymakes sense, yeah21:20
mterrythose come in as button presses21:20

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