[05:58] <hyperair> sb levelclear -level clientcrap,crap,joins,parts,quits,nicks,clientnotice
[09:40] <cjwatson> ScottK: sorry, wasn't at a terminal
[09:44] <pitti> cjwatson: FYI, I did some seed updates to catch transitional packages, demotion of binaries to universe, etc (just to avoid overlaps here)
[09:45] <pitti> langpacks now finished building, and I newed the rest, so the noise from them should disappear in the next cycle, too
[11:08] <ev> doko_: ping; I don't suppose you have time to take a quick look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-mock/+bug/723219 ?
[11:09] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 723219 in python-mock (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "[MIR] python-mock (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Medium,New]
[11:11] <doko_> ev: doing today
[11:11] <ev> awesome, thanks so much
[11:54] <ScottK> cjwatson: No trouble.  It turned out not to be so bad.
[12:06] <mvo> ev: python-mock \o/
[12:07] <ev> mvo: yeah, it's awesome, isn't it? And Michael Foord works for Canonical now, so double win.
[12:15] <mvo> ev: indeed, plus getting the MIR through is also nie
[12:15] <mvo> ce
[12:15] <mvo> nice
[12:16] <ev> indeed :)
[13:19]  * pitti accepts gcalctool, only translation updates
[13:21] <pitti> nss discussed in #u-devel, accepting
[14:40] <NCommander> anyone awake who can sign off on a beta freeze exception?
[14:40] <cjwatson> can you upload the package in question and we'll review it from the queue?
[14:40] <ogra_> NCommander, pitti should be able to
[14:40] <cjwatson> that's usually better than approval-in-advance
[14:41] <NCommander> cjwatson: I just did
[14:41] <ogra_> yeah, trust the queuebot :)
[14:41] <NCommander> mono 2.6.7-5ubuntu2
[14:41] <cjwatson> queuebot will notice in a few minutes
[14:41]  * NCommander got the email
[14:41] <ogra_> it's watching you ;)
[14:41] <NCommander> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mono/+bug/619981
[14:41] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 619981 in mono (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "mono apps crash on omap4 due to no smp support for armel (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 33)" [High,Confirmed]
[14:42] <cjwatson> it's an RC bug, should be acceptable, I'll review it once queuebot notices it
[14:43] <pitti> NCommander: only question is: will it build on armel by tomorrow?
[14:44] <NCommander> pitti: its a 3h build
[14:44] <NCommander> as long as the buildds aren't clogged, it should
[14:44] <pitti> mono has an arch all/any mix, thus highly prone to uninstallability due to archive desync
[14:44] <pitti> NCommander: they aren't, there's a handful of free armel builders
[14:44] <NCommander> Finished on 2011-03-25 (took 3 hours, 54 minutes, 12.3 seconds)
[14:45] <NCommander> Er, 4 hours
[14:45] <NCommander> :-P
[14:45] <ogra_> pitti, its severe enough to have a delay due to the upload
[14:45] <pitti> ogra_: agreed
[14:45] <pitti> 4 h sounds fine
[14:45] <ogra_> i.e. imho it is acceptable to lose a day
[14:46] <NCommander> ogra_: will you handle the seeding change?
[14:46] <ogra_> pitti, we will need a subsequent seed change and netbook.-meta upload once that has been tested
[14:46] <ogra_> NCommander, sure
[14:49] <cjwatson> mono accepted
[14:49] <ogra_> thanks !
[14:51] <NCommander> awesome
[15:21] <highvoltage> skaet: good morning, in Edubuntu we have an incomplete feature that we'd like to remove, it requires an FFe UI freeze exception
[15:21] <highvoltage> skaet: I filed a bug for it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/edubuntu-live/+bug/744292 - after stgraber acks it I'll go ahead and do it, just wanted to let you know fwiw
[15:21] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 744292 in edubuntu-live (Ubuntu) "FFe: Please remove edubuntu-live-welcome from Edubuntu live system (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,New]
[15:22] <skaet> highvoltage, thanks for letting me know.
[15:22] <skaet> highvoltage, will it require documentation changes to release notes?
[15:23] <highvoltage> skaet: nope
[15:23] <skaet> okie.  just wanted to check.
[15:23] <stgraber> highvoltage: +1, I'll remove it from the seed and see if we need to update -meta.
[15:24] <highvoltage> stgraber: great
[15:24] <stgraber> highvoltage: it doesn't seem to have any rdepends so removing from the seed should be enough
[15:24] <stgraber> highvoltage: done
[15:30] <ScottK> If you removed it from the seed, you'll need a meta upload too.
[15:34] <stgraber> ScottK: it wasn't in edubuntu-desktop, it was just in our livecd seed. I'm rebuilding -meta anyway but AFAIK it wasn't referenced in any meta package.
[15:35] <ScottK> Oh.
[15:35] <ScottK> OK.
[15:37] <pitti> cjwatson: quick sync-up about natty_probs: fglrx/nvidia are meant to be uninstallable (incompatible X.org ABI), and Bjoern and I are sorting out the oo.o stuff; after that it's down to armel
[15:39] <cjwatson> pitti: thanks
[15:39] <cjwatson> I'm doing a full CD build pass now, except for armel (since at least some of those are waiting for mono)
[15:39] <cjwatson> I don't particularly expect this to be final, but it'll be good for smoke-testing
[15:39] <pitti> *nod*
[15:40]  * skaet *nods*
[15:40] <pitti> skaet: good morning
[15:40] <pitti> skaet: who is the AA in charge for beta-1?
[15:40] <skaet> good afternoon pitti
[15:40] <skaet> pitti,  cjwatson's on the list
[15:40] <pitti> skaet: (I'll help out, of course)
[15:40] <cjwatson> where is that list, incidentally?  I keep losing it
[15:41] <skaet> just a sec, and I'll post the link
[15:41] <skaet> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTaskSignup
[15:44] <cjwatson> ah yes, thanks
[15:45] <cjwatson> linked from ReleaseTeam in an effort to not lose it again
[15:47] <pitti> ah, I didn't find it either, thanks
[15:48] <pitti> well, in practice it has always been a shared effort anyway
[15:54] <skaet> :)
[15:55] <skaet> cjwatson, thanks for linking from ReleaseTeam page, should have done that earlier.
[17:22] <stgraber> skaet: I'm going to upload a new LTSP fixing install issues on Edubuntu (typos in postinst script generating invalid ssh_known_hosts)
[17:23] <ScottK> stgraber: I'll review it.
[17:23] <skaet> stgraber,  ok
[17:24] <stgraber> ScottK: thanks. uploaded
[17:25] <ScottK> OK.  It'll be a bit before LP has a diff.
[17:39] <pitti> ^ these fix uninstallability issues, accepting
[17:58] <stgraber> ScottK: thanks fror the review
[17:58] <stgraber> *for
[17:59] <ScottK> It wasn't actually me.  I got disctracted by $WORK.
[18:02] <highvoltage> I uploaded a bug fix for edubuntu-live as well (see above), would be nice if someone could let it through!
[18:02] <pitti> stgraber: you're welcome :)
[18:03] <pitti> highvoltage: looks fine, accepted
[18:04] <highvoltage> pitti: vielen dank
[18:21] <cjwatson> debian-installer is mostly a rebuild for the current kernel
[18:34] <pitti> skaet: ah, I am currently figuring out why our WI charts are broken -- seems the ubuntu-11.04-beta-2 milestone disappeared from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty ?
[18:34] <pitti> no wonder we have so much stuff on our b1 charts
[18:34] <skaet> pitti,  yeah, I was looking for it to assign bugs to this morning and not seeing it either.
[18:34] <pitti> skaet: mind if I create it again?
[18:34] <skaet> please
[18:35]  * skaet will be very happy actually if you do.  :)
[18:35] <pitti> done
[18:36] <skaet> :D
[18:36] <pitti> looking forward to tomorrow's WI charts then
[18:38] <pitti> OO.o/LibO stuff fixed on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/natty_probs.html
[18:40] <pitti> good night everyone, time for sport
[18:41] <skaet> thanks pitti.
[19:05] <stgraber> pitti: oh, ok :) thanks !
[19:11] <cjwatson> can somebody who didn't contribute to them review debian-installer and ubiquity?
[19:12] <cjwatson> and possibly also ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu, cf. bug 744374
[19:12] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 744374 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "UI Freeze Exception: ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/744374
[19:32] <ScottK> slangasek: koffice in the queue is another armel GL/GLES fix.  I did test build on armel, so I think it's safe.
[19:33] <slangasek> ok, looking at d-i/ubiquity/koffice
[19:39] <skaet> thanks slangasek
[19:40] <ev> If someone could approve the incoming apt-clone, I'd appreciate it.  Fixes a bug in the upgrade/reinstall option in ubiquity that I was seeing in my tests.
[19:41] <skaet> ev, is there a bug number?
[19:43] <ev> no, I didn't file one sadly.  It was a fairly standard "install Ubuntu 10.10 with pidgin and chromium, then try the natty installer upgrade option".  It's covered in the regression tests.
[19:43] <ev> err it is now :)
[19:48] <cjwatson> gfxboot-theme-ubuntu 0.11.3 on its way, fixes the RC part of bug 742558
[19:48] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 742558 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) (and 3 other projects) ""Keep default keyboard layout ..." dialog is confusing (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/742558
[19:51] <cjwatson> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/20101020ubuntu24/+buildjob/2349966/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.debian-installer_20101020ubuntu24_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz urp
[20:03] <jibel> skaet, buildid for ubuntu-alternate is 20110328.1 ?
[20:03] <cjwatson> yes
[20:04] <jibel> smotest ran fine and images are good then.
[20:04] <jibel> s/smotest/smoketest
[20:04] <cjwatson> good, so we have a baseline
[20:05] <skaet> jibel,  :)  thanks.
[20:25] <slangasek> ev: fwiw, there's a standard interface for disabling build-time test suites: DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck
[20:27] <jibel> skaet, ubuntu-server and desktop on amd64 and i386 passed smoketest.
[20:27] <skaet> yay - was just wondering about server...  :)
[20:27] <skaet> jibel,  thanks
[20:27] <slangasek> ev: so "ifndef UBIQUITY_NO_TESTS" ought to be "ifneq (,$(filter nocheck,$(DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS))"
[20:27] <slangasek> ev: though hmm, I don't see that anything calls this 'tests' target by default?
[20:38] <cjwatson> slangasek: it's a dependency of the binary target
[20:38] <cjwatson> (which is a bit odd since binary is only run on the arch-indep builder, i.e. i386)
[20:39] <cjwatson> in fact, may not necessarily be run at all
[20:52] <slangasek> mm, yes
[20:53] <ev> bum
[20:56] <slangasek> ev: accepted, all the same; but I suppose you'll want to clean up the testsuite activation some
[20:56] <ev> failed to build
[20:56] <ev> fixing
[20:56] <ev> and indeed
[20:56] <ev> thanks for the pointers
[20:56] <slangasek> ftbfs? poo
[20:57] <slangasek> ah, in the testsuite no less - so only on i386 ;)
[20:57] <ev> heh
[20:58] <slangasek> there are two apt-clones in the queue; which one is the good clone and which one should I shoot?
[20:58] <ev> oh, probably shoot mine
[20:58] <ev> I didn't see any record of mvo's upload on launchpad
[20:59] <ev> so I signed and uploaded
[20:59] <slangasek> so shoot the later one, keep the earlier?
[21:00] <ev> correct
[21:02] <doko> the just uploaded sysvinit is multiarch fallout. please accept, if we want the fix for bug #665185 in the beta
[21:02] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 665185 in sysvinit (Ubuntu) "/etc/init.d/sendsigs fails to kill some processes (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665185
[21:04]  * slangasek makes a frownie-face at the upstream build system
[21:04] <slangasek> doko: do you happen to know where the sysvinit upstream tarball went?  apparently 2.86.ds1 had one, and 2.87dsf is a native package
[21:04] <slangasek> anyway, accepted
[21:04] <slangasek> doko: is everything unblocked at this point to let you go ahead with a snapshot rebuilD?
[21:04] <slangasek> tr D d
[21:08] <doko> slangasek: I don't know of anything more, the remaining c-m shouldn't hurt
[21:08] <doko>  o nodm: nodm
[21:08] <doko>    [Reverse-Recommends: kdebase-workspace]
[21:08]  * slangasek nods
[21:08] <doko> Riddell: ^^^
[21:08] <doko> anyway, first dinner
[21:08] <slangasek> that was discussed earlier today on #u-d, it's an alternative Recommends
[21:27] <ScottK> slangasek: Thanks for the koffice reivew.  Pending a resolution on avogadro we're done on gl/gles stuff.
[21:30] <slangasek> yep - kunal is working through the avogadro stuff, hope to see a resolution in the next day or two
[21:30] <slangasek> is that blocking rebuild of packages for beta on armel?
[21:37] <ev> slangasek: so something like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/586598/
[21:38] <slangasek> ev: looks good to me
[21:38] <slangasek> ev: please verify in a test build that it actually does what you expect, my mastery of make $() commands is poor :)
[21:38] <ev> slangasek: exactly what I'm doing now :)
[21:38] <ScottK> slangasek: Yes.  IIRC Riddell was looking into dropping the avogadro build-dep/depends on armel as a workaround.  Not sure how far he got.
[21:39] <slangasek> ScottK: ok. unfortunately since avogadro is using GLEW, rather than GL, it's not as straightforward as just switching the build-dep to gles2
[21:40] <slangasek> maybe GLEW ought to also build against gles2 on armel, but that's a big can of worms
[22:05] <skaet> ev, slangasek, cjwatson - could one of you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/739632
[22:05] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 739632 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "ubiquity crashed during install with: plugininstall.py: DebconfError: (10, "oem-config/enable doesn't exist") (affects: 8) (dups: 5) (heat: 162)" [High,Confirmed]
[22:10] <slangasek> best if cjwatson or ev can look at it, my familiarity with ubiquity isn't very deep
[22:12] <skaet> slangasek, ok, thanks.
[22:17] <cjwatson> looking
[22:17] <cjwatson> I thought I fixed that one
[22:19] <cjwatson> can't find the fix though ...
[22:20] <cjwatson> oh yes, I remember going through that with ev.  it's not a ubiquity bug, it's a bug somewhere else
[22:20] <cjwatson> skaet: do we have any direct contact on IRC with a tester who can reproduce this?
[22:20] <skaet> jibel's reporting it
[22:21] <skaet> should be able to hook up in #ubuntu-testing
[22:21] <jibel> cjwatson, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/730209/comments/29 same issue with current iso and ubiquity 2.5.29 . I'll try to find the tester
[22:21] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 730209 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "Ubi-partman fails with exit code 141 in Desktop Natty Alpha 3 (affects: 31) (dups: 2) (heat: 166)" [Critical,Fix released]
[22:22] <cjwatson> I hope we aren't encouraging testers to tack onto the end of existing bugs
[22:24] <cjwatson> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/739632/comments/9 - request for debugging information
[22:24] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 739632 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "ubiquity crashed during install with: plugininstall.py: DebconfError: (10, "oem-config/enable doesn't exist") (affects: 9) (dups: 5) (heat: 170)" [High,Incomplete]
[22:44] <iulian> Please accept mahara. ^
[22:45] <cjwatson> that looks like a syncpackage upload?
[22:46] <iulian> Indeed.
[22:46] <cjwatson> I'd process a requestsync bug if given the bug number
[22:46] <cjwatson> I would rather not process a syncpackage upload
[22:47]  * iulian nods.
[22:48]  * iulian wonders how he can track down the uploader.
[22:49] <cjwatson> that's one of the reasons I don't like to process syncpackage uploads ...
[22:49] <iulian> Bleh.  I'll just do it myself.
[22:49] <cjwatson> I may be able to track down the signer with some work
[22:50] <cjwatson> 2011-03-28 21:30:24 DEBUG   Signed-By: Artur Rona <ari-tczew@ubuntu.com>
[22:50] <cjwatson> iulian: ^-
[22:50] <iulian> Uhm.
[22:52] <cjwatson> and if Artur wonders why most of his sync bugs haven't been processed, it's because most of them are Debian uploads that incorporate an Ubuntu change and maybe make the odd packaging tweak - I've been processing universe syncs that actually make functional changes, but I don't want to spend buildd time on things that users won't notice
[22:53] <cjwatson> and I'm entirely happy to process something like this from him (a security fix) via requestsync
[22:54] <iulian> It seems that he's not online at the moment and I'm too lazy to send him an email.  He obviously didn't read your last email sent to the ubuntu-devel mailing list.
[22:55] <iulian> Anyway, I will let him know about this when I see him online, if I don't forget.
[22:55] <cjwatson> good luck
[22:56] <iulian> Have you already talked to him about this?
[22:56] <cjwatson> not about this particular thing
[23:08] <cjwatson> If Artur asks, I've rejected his syncpackage upload per https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-March/032789.html, but have done a verbatim sync of the same package version in his name
[23:08] <cjwatson> (he's not on IRC at the moment)
[23:11] <iulian> Ack.
[23:19] <cjwatson> skaet: Evan's fixed that debconf protocol desync bug, upload should be ready soon
[23:20] <skaet> cjwatson, ev - thanks!  :)
[23:20] <ev> sure thing
[23:52] <cjwatson> I'm going to need to upload a couple of desktop packages to fix udebs so that d-i is buildable again
[23:52] <cjwatson> pango1.0 and libxcb
[23:55] <cjwatson> accepting ubiquity
[23:56] <slangasek> cjwatson: pango1.0/libxcb> blast; do you want me to take one of those?
[23:58] <cjwatson> I'm on pango1.0, if you could take libxcb that would be good
[23:59] <slangasek> ack
[23:59] <cjwatson> I assume you know which problem I mean - stuff being in /usr/lib/$(multiarch) rather than /usr/lib
[23:59] <slangasek> yep
[23:59] <cjwatson> well, I'm on pango if the bzr checkout ever finishes