[00:08] feels randomly assured now he found the backup button [00:16] phew - it boots and has a network signal :-) [00:34] hmm rather touchy though; market place doesn't work and it seems to insist on trying to set up an exchange account rather than gmail [00:38] Is it possible to move an already running process into a screen? [00:38] no [00:40] Sod [00:43] ctrl-z [01:58] \o [02:01] hi haz [02:01] hamitron: \o [02:01] :D [02:01] how's it going dude? [02:01] I still not slept [02:01] hehe [02:01] hehe [02:02] I had to, I was awake for way too long [02:02] my brain has only just this second felt totally mashed [02:02] :P [02:03] how long you been awake? [02:03] 42 hours [02:03] wow lol, and I thought I was bad sometimes [02:04] I've done 48+ hours before, and people have called me insane lol [02:04] I call it "I hate sleeping, means less hours I can be doing stuff" [02:04] I missed 2 nights in a row once [02:04] fell off my comp chair :/ [02:05] 4pm on the 3rd day [02:05] * HazRPG enrolls hamitron into the "sorta insomniac" group [02:05] but that was because I had coursework to do [02:05] ah [02:05] coursework will do that :P [02:05] I miss those days :P [02:05] I started it 5 days before the deadline [02:06] was supposed to spend 5 months [02:06] so my own fault [02:06] xD [02:06] I do that all the time :P [02:07] hmm, bug! [02:07] apparently chrome doesn't think it's the default browser anymore [02:09] :/ [02:13] nn all ;) [02:14] awww, you actually going to sleep now? [02:14] yes [02:14] :)) [02:14] ...:( [02:14] o/ [02:14] night dude o/ [02:15] hmmm, is SixXS or HE better for IPv6? [03:56] morning [03:58] shauno: \o [04:02] Have you read the e-mail about the guy with RSI troubles on the mailing list? [04:02] yeah [04:05] I feel like a complete zombie :/ off to mug the kettle [04:06] :p [04:12] HazRPG: I've had great service from HE. It's reliable and they have a good network. Oh, also, they don't need you to earn points or other weird stuff like SixXS does [04:12] stgraber: ah ok, cool - thanks :) [04:13] earn points? (only used HE, haven't used sixxs, trying to figure out how points would fit into the picture) [04:14] shauno: with sixxs you need to keep your tunnel online or you loose point, if you loose points you can't ask for subnets or other tunnels [04:14] oh, fun [04:18] I've had no problems with HE at all. and my router supports their tunnels, so autoconf is pretty tidy for the rest of the LAN :) [04:48] oh, I heard back on that calibre bug. they won't change the default, but have added it to the options UI. so \o/ [04:55] winner \o/ [04:56] I must say the developer of calibre does listen to his users really well :) [04:56] he's very active on the forums! [04:56] and always quick to try and add or sort things out [05:01] well, I should get off my rear & get ready for work [05:01] my odd sleep rotation worked out tho; waking up an hour before your alarm clock goes off is awesome :) [05:02] alarm clock doing off at 5am .. not so awesome [05:10] going* [05:10] heh, I haven't heard an alarm clock in years [05:10] literally [05:10] even if I wanted to hear an alarm clock, I wouldn't hear it while I'm asleep [05:10] (awake, I can hear them just fine) [05:11] when I'm asleep, I physically can't hear them - and I don't know why! [05:11] people next door (and from downstairs) can hear it - because I got a loud little beast, however I just don't... and I have no idea why [05:12] suffice to say, I'm usually late... unless I plan a schedule around so that I'm still awake for the times that I need to be... [05:14] e.g. if I know I need to be awake and on time for something... I have to make sure I force myself to sleep around 10-14 hours before the time I need to meet them... that way if I oversleep, I know I'll definitely be awake for it... failing that I do the whole "hmm, think I could last and stay awake till then?" question in my head [05:21] heh, just posted a wall-mass of text about a guy and his kindle-related questions... I don't know how I always manage to do this, but I don't seem to be able to keep things short and to the point :/ [05:21] hopefully it'll be useful for him though [05:21] heh, I noticed. didn't manage to finish your book on RSI :p [05:21] works really well for me though (the RSI thing) [05:22] I very rarely get anything [05:22] depends on your usage I guess [05:22] and how your sat, positioned [05:23] ah crud, I should really have mentioned that in the e-mail too [05:23] ah well too late [05:23] fairly sure someone mentioned lumbar etc in the first couple of responses [05:24] hmm, I did skim through most of the posts, think I missed that one [05:24] my seating position is so slothenly that I book holidays off work whenever we have a health & safety audit :/ [05:25] I actually got one of the security guys to help me do a weekend raid on our old building, so I could retrieve my favourite chair :D [05:26] haha winner [05:27] the security guys like us because they're not allowed to go off-site during their shifts, and we can. so if they need food/smokes/etc, we become popular [05:27] I'm catching up on the 60 or so mailing list stuff I've missed recently (been busy reading other things I guess?) [05:27] hehe, I can imagine :P [05:28] just giving them a bell to say "popping down the shop, you need anything?" earns you useful allies :) [05:29] but generally the only thing my seated posture has going for it, is that I seem to move constantly. I'm not sat in any position for hours on end [05:30] and I maintain finding a new position every 15-20 minutes is more useful than sitting in the "right position" for 12 hours at a time. there is no right way to sit for 12 hours. we're not built like that [05:31] it does confuse people who try to borrow my chair tho :) it's kinda broken. if you try to lean back, the back will go diagonally in either direction, but not straight back [05:31] so if you try to lean back without knowing the secrets of my chair, you tend to get tipped onto the floor [05:39] haha I had a chair like that at work too xD [05:40] great fun to see others try and use it :) [05:40] was so tempted to put "geek chair: use with precaution, prior knowledge of how to operate required" [05:40] but thought my boss probably wouldn't like that :P [05:43] also, agreed... there is no "right or wrong" way to sit on a chair [05:43] I tend to find myself moving around a lot too [05:43] usually helps to have someone I can plonk my legs up onto :) [05:43] xD somewhere* I mean [06:06] haha love it: How to torment a telemarketer with one word :: http://www.videojug.com/film/how-to-torment-telemarketers-with-one-word [06:17] hi [06:18] Good Morning everyone [06:18] Please guide me about http://paste.ubuntu.com/586347/ [06:34] morning all [06:34] off to towcester today [06:35] HazRPG: are you behind some nasty proxy server? [06:35] sorry, kaushal: are you behind some nasty proxy server? [06:35] AlanBell: ... I was going to say! [06:36] I have installed squid-deb-proxy-server [06:36] kaushal: you are only being given the first [45B] of each file [06:36] ok [06:36] ok, well that is the bit that is broken then :) [06:37] AlanBell: shall i pastebin the squid-deb-proxy.conf ? [06:39] I am off out for the day now [06:39] I would start by turning the proxy off and see if that helps [06:40] ok [06:40] np [07:38] Morning [07:38] o/ [07:45] o/ [07:49] hello all [08:14] Good morning everyone [08:14] morning [08:16] I am using Ubuntu 10.10 and I would like to reach a folder located Windows (/desktop) [08:16] I can reach everything in windows but When I open the desktop folder, I only see 4 unimportant files, there is no my folder in it [08:17] What do you think ? [08:22] does Windows do encryption of that sort of thing these days? [08:23] unless you turn it off, yes [08:23] erolci, which desktop folder? you have several [08:24] Right [08:24] I am using dual operating system [08:24] erm... windows 7 does encrypt the user's folders now [08:25] God [08:25] HazRPG, only if you pay for ultimate [08:25] however am I right in thinking your trying to access "my documents" "my pictures" etc? [08:25] erolci, which folder exactly are you looking in [08:25] because that would be /windows/user//My Documents [08:26] (or replace with My Pictures, My Music, etc) [08:26] hmm [08:26] I will have a look [08:26] /windows/user//Desktop/My Documents is the wrong place to be looking [08:26] HazRPG, Users. [08:26] also, Documents [08:27] as of w7 [08:27] yeah sorry [08:27] maybe vista too [08:27] morning everyone [08:27] I checked it but there is not Desktop folder [08:28] The intresting point [08:28] I can see everything in c drive [08:28] Only desktop folder has this problem [08:28] Windows is down at the moment [08:29] erolci: http://ScrnSht.com/wanwic [08:30] directhex: also, if you look at that screenshot... "My Documents" is still there as a thing in win7 [08:31] I'm pretty sure there's still one place inside windows that's inconsistent with the rest and calls it "My Documents" instead of "Documents" [08:31] HazRPG, i wouldn't trust junction points. [08:32] Cool.. we're going to push ipv6 even more @ work [08:32] erolci, without you being precise in a) what you're looking for, and b) where you're looking, you're unhelpable. [08:32] directhex: is that what they're called? I thought they were just called "links" [08:32] I am looking for another folder which is located in /Desktop [08:33] erolci, WHICH desktop? [08:33] erolci, you have at least two desktops. [08:33] in Windows 7 [08:33] right [08:33] I checked the both in windows [08:33] then you're looking in the wrong place. [08:34] your USER desktop, for anything you copy there yourself, is in Users/username/Desktop. there's also the system desktop, which has icons etc placed by installers. [08:34] MartijnVdS: \o/ [08:34] windows silently merges the system desktop and user desktop when showing them to you [08:35] directhex: yeah I know what you mean, that's always annoyed me as a thing :/ [08:35] HazRPG: It's going to be part of some independent "Choose an ISP" sites ('Offers IPv6 yes/no' -- we're the only 'yes' atm :)) [08:35] HazRPG: did you set it up yet? [08:35] Where is the system desktop located buddy? [08:35] in Windows folder ? [08:36] i think that one might be a junction point, for compatibility with windows 95 apps [08:39] MartijnVdS: IPv6? [08:39] HazRPG: yes [08:40] MartijnVdS: I made the account :D [08:40] MartijnVdS: as far as I got with that :P [08:40] slacker. [08:40] HazRPG: ... [08:42] I can open the windows in Dos mode [08:42] I will try to copy files to another folder [08:42] I hope works [08:42] shauno, MartijnVdS: ikr :( [08:42] Thanks a lot for your helping [08:42] internet too much of a distraction [08:43] doesn't help I'm having a link war with my friend on mumble [08:45] I have to go [08:45] see you, bye [08:50] Morning [08:57] * DJones mutters about graphics cards in laptops & why isn't there a nice simple way of choosing one that will work nicely with ubuntu [09:05] Hello. [09:05] s-fox: morning [09:06] Hello MooDoo . How are you? [09:06] s-fox: congratulations as well :) [09:06] i'm fine thanks [09:06] Congrats? [09:06] It is good you are okay :) [09:07] s-fox: hven't you been elected to a team council? [09:07] or have i got the wrong person? [09:07] Oh yes, I have. [09:07] then congratulations :D [09:07] Wednesday last week I think [09:07] ah i just noticed it on the planet [09:08] MooDoo, gnome-look is back up. http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=127192 & http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=137346 [09:09] Two of my shots I uploaded. [09:10] very nice :) [09:12] Thank you. [09:20] Morning all [09:26] Can anybody see any problems that I might have with this laptop (drivers/incompatibility etc), just trying to get ideas on what to buy http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/acer-5742-core-i5-laptop-with-4gb-memory-red-laptop-08702408-pdt.html [09:26] I'm also tempted by something with this sort of spec http://www.coopelectricalshop.co.uk/products/ProductDetail.asp?ProductCode=ACE-COM-ASPIRE5742G-BK [09:28] DJones, looks fine to me, of course wifi is always *random dice roll* if you don't get well used chipsets. never heard of acer chipsets for wifi before [09:29] gord: Yeah, thats always a worry, trouble is there's so many acer 5742's out there with different specs, I don't think you'd ever know which you were getting [09:31] DJones: i noticed that - tesco have a wildly different spec [09:32] http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.210-8467.aspx http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.210-1936.aspx [09:33] it's common for huge retailers to get slightly different models for electronic items [09:33] it makes it impossible to do price comparison and "we pay the difference if it's cheaper elsewhere" deals [09:34] Happy daylight savings time, everyone! :D [09:34] DJones: ever tried dell outlet? i got a really good deal from there [09:35] oimon: No, I've not looked there yet [09:48] oimon: Outlet is quite interesting, Intel i7 for £537 with 4Gb, Radeon HD 5470 1G [09:49] hmm, I have a feeling I did something wrong there... [09:50] oimon: Not a top end i7, seems reasonable [09:50] i used to also buy from the outlet for a cheapskate employer too - never had any problems with the machines i received from them (usually business ones) [09:59] Hmm, gnome3 ppa has been updated within the last couple of days [10:01] hmm, could someone help me out with some ipv6 setup (via HE) please :) [10:02] so knew to this whole ipv6 thing :/ [10:02] so far every attempt has just failed [10:02] Oh yeah, I meant to do that weeks ago [10:02] ? [10:02] (I'm no help, I'm afraid) [10:02] the HE thingy on ip6 [10:03] ah, fair enough [10:04] via HE? [10:05] tunnelbroker.net [10:05] IPv6 over IPv4 style [10:06] HE stands for "Hurricane Electric" they prove IPv6 address :) [10:10] BigRedS: if I get it to work, I'll post my find on my blog for ya to have a read if ya like :) [10:12] HazRPG: ah, that'd be cool! [10:13] An even-shorter-than-the-short-intro-thing to ip6! :) [10:13] indeed :) [10:13] guessing your using a router that's non-ipv6 compliant yet too? [10:14] I'm rolling with 10.10 at the moment, but I can test stuff on others too if need be before I post it up [10:14] what would be the best way to limit ssh to a single ip address? looking at some google links, seems like about 100 different ways to do it [10:16] either ufw/iptables, or just hosts.deny/allow [10:16] k [10:16] in iptables do i need to set something up so that it happens after a reboot? [10:16] or setting it once will always be set? [10:16] Yeah, you need to setup a script so that it always runs on reboot [10:16] iptables -I INPUT -s -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT [10:16] iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j REJECT [10:17] look right? [10:18] dogmatic69: You might already know about this, but ufw can do this and has the advantage of retaining its setup across reboot. [10:19] JamesTait: i dont, will look that up [10:19] dogmatic69: looks wrong... Why not just set policy as REJECT, adn then add accept rules? [10:19] Mez: dont know, just found that on server fault :/ [10:20] dogmatic69: as you're a local... gimme a moment, I'll find you a very good article :D [10:20] (aka the firewall article I wrong for LXF) [10:21] http://www.linuxformat.com/includes/download.php?PDF=LXF121.tut_adv.pdf [10:21] \o/ [10:23] BigRedS: just out of interest dude, you planning on having IPv6 on one computer or setup like a DHCP for IPv6? [10:24] I love ufw. the rules are actually readable. 'sudo ufw allow from app OpenSSH' [10:24] HazRPG: just one computer, I want to set it up on my dedicated box [10:24] because ideally I'd like to setup a DHCP for IPv6... however if I at least get it working on only one machine that would be great too - but if your also interested in setting up via multiple, might try my best to get it to run on multiple [10:25] I don't even use DHCP on ip4 really [10:25] BigRedS: technically your router does though :P [10:25] I don't use dhcp on v6. just let autoconf do it [10:25] well, I do on other people's networks, but I've not been near a dhcp server for a while, quite intentionally :) [10:25] ah cool [10:25] shauno: hmm really? I thought that was what the screenshot was doing? [10:26] and, yeah, there's a built-in-to-ip6 thing that you should be doing instead of dhcp [10:26] in fact, that's probably what you are doing, thinking about it :) [10:26] that's just a tunnel endpoint [10:26] anything joining the network just autodiscovers it's own address as lan address + mac address [10:27] get some well ugly IPs that way, but zero hassle :) [10:28] shauno: ah, but isn't that DHCP essentially? I'm guessing you don't need to do anything fancy on your phone to get ipv6 for it? [10:28] after its setup on the router I mean [10:28] (I know what I mean in my head :S) [10:28] it's part of the protocol; they just find the lan address via neighbour discovery [10:29] HazRPG: same effect as DHCP, but utterly different method [10:29] you can do dhcpv6 if you really want/need to, but autoconf is built into the protocol now [10:30] BigRedS: yeah, but I think they're still calling it DHCPv6 despite it only being similar in concept (sorta) [10:30] shauno: oh? [10:31] (getting more confused the more I read) [10:31] yeah, that was my understanding - two mechanisms to achieve the same thing, both occasionally called dhcpv6 :) [10:31] that's the lovely thing about standards... [10:32] I believe dhcpv6 still exists very similar to dhcp, for people who need utter control over that kinda thing [10:33] eg, at home I have v4 set so I get IPs 10.0.0.1xx, next door get 10.0.0.2xx, etc. autoconf isn't that tidy [10:33] ah [10:34] if you don't need that much control, just let autoconf make fantastically ugly IPs [10:34] see the ways I keep seeing, essentially just let HE pick the IP's [10:34] so I'm assuming that's the "ugly IP" way? [10:36] so far all different ways of setting this up, basically say do this on every machine... or setup a DHCPv6 (endpoint for the tunnel) server, however each requesting machine that asks for an IP still goes out to HE and grabs an IP from them and brings it back to the requesting machine [10:36] they don't actually show you how to specify a range [10:36] well if you're just doing it straight on your machine, you'll most likely get the LAN address they gave you with ::2 as the end [10:37] yeah I am doing this straight on my machine, although I would like to setup my phone, and other PC's/laptops/netbook/etc to use it too [10:38] hopefully with the least amount of faffing around :P [10:40] 2001:ba8:1f1:f1a5::2 like this is my vps's address [10:40] 2001:ba8:1f1:f1a5 is 'my' network, and ::2 because I'm the only host on it (and can't use ::1) [10:41] hang on I'll link you to ubuntu's way of doing the DHCP tunnel broker way of doing things, if you've got a moment :) [10:41] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6#Configure your Ubuntu box as a IPv6 router [10:41] tsk. spaces in urls [10:42] BigRedS: blame the person who made the wiki, that was the link straight via "copy url" [10:42] HazRPG, blame chromium for not replacing spaces with %20 in copied urls [10:42] that too [10:43] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6#Configure%20your%20Ubuntu%20box%20as%20a%20IPv6%20router [10:43] good thing I know most commonly used replacements [10:44] HazRPG: Oh I do [10:44] BigRedS: didn't say you didn't :P [10:46] ping popey [10:48] Must we? [10:50] I've just downloaded an Android telnet client [10:51] this feels quite anachronistic [10:51] never heard of radvd, but that describes what my router's doing [10:53] X3N: pong [10:53] shauno: ah so we were both on the same page then :) [10:53] getting nagois alerts for ssh on the ubuntu-uk box, [10:53] yup [10:53] its apache still OOMing [10:53] well, apache eating RAM and the kernel OOMing [10:54] * shauno shakes fist at apache [10:54] * popey shakes fist at PHP [10:54] is lighttpd going to be deployed? [10:55] last time I suggested that, you were against it [10:56] oh, I thought we had agreed to change [10:56] I am happy to test migrate to lighttpd for a period, and if it doesn't "fix" the issue, go back. [10:56] or do something else [10:56] I am open to suggestions [10:57] I'm happy to do the migration to lighttpd, but not until thursday, we have the podcast tomorrow and release on wednesday so I dont really want to bork it before then :D [10:58] ok [10:59] what I'd do is run lighttpd on another port in parallel and migrate the config over, then swap the ports and then shutdown apache, then uninstall it [10:59] ^^ thats my plan ;) [10:59] sounds good [11:00] cherokee > * :) [11:02] static pages > * :) [11:03] cake > * :) [11:03] where's cake? [11:07] * daubers was given cake by his nan yesterday \o/ [11:10] Hello folks. [11:10] I'm not sure whether anyone here was on yesterday, but I have some rather good news. [11:10] My ASUS is alive and well. [11:10] hey folks, could someone please tell me if port 5060 is accessible on sipgate.de? (i.e. can you telnet to it and get something other than a refused connetion) [11:11] telnet sipdate.de 5060 Trying 82.98.86.169... [11:11] wooops sipGATE [11:11] telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused [11:11] hehe [11:11] thanks oimon [11:11] * dwatkins will also check with nmap [11:12] * BigRedS is refused too [11:12] wierd, I wonder if they use a different server for SIP logins, then [11:12] either that, or all the methods I've tested and you both tested are blocking SIP [11:13] morning all [11:13] unless it's because SIP is UDP === tim is now known as tim_making_tea_b === tim_making_tea_b is now known as tf_makingtea_brb [11:26] * czajkowski gags davmor2 not a sound mister! [11:27] czajkowski: oi be nice :p [11:27] morning davmor2 === tf_makingtea_brb is now known as tim [11:30] * davmor2 flicks czajkowski's ear [11:30] morning MooDoo [11:30] davmor2: yeah don't stand for any nonsense from that czajkowski :) [11:31] davmor2: hows tricks/ [11:31] ? [11:31] lies/whois tim [11:31] bah! [11:31] * popey pokes tim with some biscuits [11:31] MooDoo: magic but not a lot [11:31] davmor2: :D hows debbie ;) [11:32] MooDoo: Magic but not a lot :D [11:33] lol [11:33] davmor2: i see you've made czajkowski be quiet ;) [11:33] MooDoo: flicking ears will do that [11:34] MooDoo: that or you swear more times that the Blues Brothers get hit by the Penguin [11:34] lol [11:35] davmor2: maybe i'll just get beat up on the quiet like, czajkowski the ninja [11:35] MooDoo: either way it'll need to subside before czajkowski can give me grief back [11:36] davmor2: maybe we should disarm her with charm ;) [11:37] MooDoo: it's us it'll only come across as smarm [11:37] davmor2: hmmmmmm ok abuse it is [11:37] davmor2: MooDoo http://www.newstalk.ie/2011/featured/dancing-ninja-freaks-out-passers-by/ [11:38] lol czajkowski are you planning on scaring us like that :D [11:39] czajkowski is a ninja? [11:39] yes [11:40] Gary: yes it's a rumour im starting......don't worry she can't hear us [11:41] MooDoo: I thought the whole point of a rumour was they didn't know who or how it got started [11:41] davmor2: oh er..... [11:42] * davmor2 starts the vicious tale that czajkowski isn't Irish but a Russian spy infiltrating England through Irish connections [11:43] Heh. Mysql.com hacked by an sql injection exploit....Ooops [11:43] davmor2: what? she'll have her own tv show next [11:44] cztabtv? needs moar vowels :/ [11:45] just 'tab tv' rolls of the tongue tho. this could work. [11:45] oooo :) [11:45] glad the cz thing is taking off, she likes that [11:45] * Gary hides [11:46] shauno: You maybe her next nuclear tea victim [11:46] pah tab.tv is taken :( [11:46] dealextreme really needs a button to hide all their 'personal massage devices' from results. It really makes buying trash gizmos at work awkward. [11:46] postmen who don't knock on your door and just assume no one is in during the day are devil spawn. *devilspawn*. [11:48] gord: You need some kind of postman trap, so if they don't knock, a MASSIVE pile of red rubber bands falls on their head, followed by a sign on a string saying "KNOCK DAMN YOU" [11:48] red rubber bands is oddly specific. should we be worried? [11:48] shauno: Thats the kind that the postmen tend to leave all over your doorstep/road [11:49]