[00:06] <dragon> considering this bug, I'm glad that I made the switch to Ubuntu years ago.
[00:07] <dragon> It would be painful to boot into a different OS to watch a youtube video, e.g.
[02:50] <pleia2> meeting in 10 minutes :)
[02:50] <pleia2> (this weekend went by too quick!)
[02:51] <philipballew> they always do that! it feels like they've been stolen...
[02:53] <DarkwingDuck> yeesh, how long does it take to clone a 200Gig HD using dd?
[02:53] <pleia2> long time
[02:53] <DarkwingDuck> No kidding... we are going on 5 hours
[02:54] <philipballew> i had a question to awing by you guys here. if ive been posting a question on the forms and the people there dont know, wheres another place to ask?
[02:55] <philipballew> *ask
[02:55] <DarkwingDuck> What are you looking for?
[02:55] <DarkwingDuck> Normally, I look for an answer on google...
[02:55] <iheartubuntu> whats dd?
[02:55] <iheartubuntu> i just fini transferring 1TB of data from several drives now all on one
[02:56] <DarkwingDuck> iheartubuntu: http://serverfault.com/questions/4906/using-dd-for-disk-cloning
[02:56] <philipballew> i need to ssh to my desktop thats on the same network here but it appears its on a different subnet and i doesnt wanna connect
[02:56] <pleia2> philipballew: well you can always ask here, or #ubuntu or #ubuntu-beginners
[02:56] <DarkwingDuck> You should be able to as long as your whitelisted via network IP
[02:56] <DarkwingDuck> But, iirc you have to set the whitelist
[02:57] <DarkwingDuck> because everything is blacklisted as default
[02:57] <philipballew> that makes sence. ill do the irc ubuntu or beginers because theres probably more people there
[02:58] <iheartubuntu> so dd is copying from oen drive to another?
[02:58] <philipballew> thanks!
[02:58] <DarkwingDuck> But, but it copies EVERYTHING
[02:58] <DarkwingDuck> philipballew: No problem.
[02:58] <iheartubuntu> unfortunately, im not ready for my report yet on games night :(
[02:58] <iheartubuntu> will have to be next meeting
[02:59] <DarkwingDuck> and I'm in crunch mode so everything has gotten ignored 'cept docs
[02:59] <iheartubuntu> if its copying doesnt it depend then on the computer itself? the USBs and/or the connections?
[03:00] <DarkwingDuck> Not if you are running the command form a LiveCD
[03:00] <DarkwingDuck> Then the firesystems are not actually being used.
[03:00] <pleia2> ok, meeting time!
[03:00] <iheartubuntu> my 2.0 USB is really fast compared to 1.0, but my dads new computer he bought today has 3.0 and WOW
[03:00] <pleia2> this shouldn't take long, we have a short agenda
[03:00] <DarkwingDuck> firesystems/silesystems
[03:00]  * DarkwingDuck gets his popcorn
[03:00] <pleia2> [03:00] <iheartubuntu> :)
[03:00] <pleia2> Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11March27
[03:01] <philipballew> quite the big agenda!
[03:01] <pleia2> TOPIC: Ubuntu Global Jam Parties
[03:01] <pleia2> so the Global Jam is next weekend, Apr 1-3
[03:01] <pleia2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[03:02] <pleia2> our wiki page for it is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/NattyGlobalJam
[03:02] <pleia2> as you can see we have 2 events planned, one in Walnut Creek on Friday and another in Berkeley on Sunday
[03:02] <pleia2> more are welcome :)
[03:02] <DarkwingDuck> These on the loco directory yet?
[03:02] <dragon> o/
[03:03] <pleia2> yes, the links are on the wiki
[03:03] <DarkwingDuck> are they all inclusive or, are they topical jams?
[03:04]  * eps giggles
[03:04] <pleia2> the one in Walnut Creek is all inclusive, jono's email about it is here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2011-March/001640.html
[03:04] <dragon> o.O
[03:04] <DarkwingDuck> Roger
[03:04] <dragon> We have a meeting, right?
[03:04] <pleia2> for the Berkeley one I put on the wiki: Focus: Testing and Bugs
[03:04] <DarkwingDuck> We are in the meeting now dragon
[03:05] <pleia2> dragon: this is the meeting :)
[03:05] <aaditya> Oh, no wonder.
[03:05] <iheartubuntu> :)
[03:05] <aaditya> I see no messages on my pidgin.
[03:05] <DarkwingDuck> ?
[03:05] <pleia2> but even at the Berkeley one we can do other stuff too
[03:06] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: were you going to do a virtual doc jam?
[03:06] <DarkwingDuck> I'm still thinking about setting one up online but, it all depends how much crunch work I have.
[03:06]  * pleia2 nods
[03:07] <DarkwingDuck> But yes. I'll post date and time on the ML
[03:07] <pleia2> cool, thanks :)
[03:07] <DarkwingDuck> One of my doc gurus got his lappy stolen
[03:07] <DarkwingDuck> So crunch time +1
[03:08] <pleia2> oh, and I mailed the list about it this morning, but in case you're interested in running one but are not sure how, there is an event in #ubuntu-classroom tomorrow geared toward getting everyone ready: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJamBootcamp
[03:08] <pleia2> yeah, poor nixternal :(
[03:08] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah... I called him last night... still no luch
[03:08] <DarkwingDuck> *luck
[03:09] <pleia2> ok, any thing else about the Jams?
[03:09] <DarkwingDuck> Lets get good quality work out there...
[03:10] <DarkwingDuck> These Jams help us Devs more then people know.
[03:10] <DarkwingDuck> ESP Unity
[03:10] <DarkwingDuck> Unity needs some major TLC
[03:10]  * DarkwingDuck gets off his soapbox
[03:10] <pleia2> :)
[03:12] <pleia2> TOPIC: Announcements, other things
[03:12] <pleia2> anyone have any bright ideas? comments? rants?
[03:12] <DarkwingDuck> Unity needs testors and bug reporting
[03:12] <DarkwingDuck> :P
[03:13] <philipballew> whats the best way to do that?
[03:13] <philipballew> do i need to actually install 11.04 or can i report bugs from my vbox machine just fine?
[03:13] <DarkwingDuck> Download and install a daily live CD http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[03:13] <pleia2> only if vbox supports accelerated graphics for your card
[03:14] <DarkwingDuck> vbox will not give you the Unity 3D
[03:14] <philipballew> hum. i can partition this week then
[03:14] <pleia2> there is an experimental thing to enable 3d in vbox, but it hardly works for anyone :\
[03:15] <pleia2> this is one of the many reasons they need more testers, it's harder to do testing because you pretty much have to do it on actual hardware
[03:15] <DarkwingDuck> Here are the list of bugs
[03:15] <DarkwingDuck> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity
[03:15] <eps> DarkwingDuck: I was expecting we'd be working from Beta 1
[03:15] <pleia2> the beta 1 or the daily build
[03:15] <pleia2> (beta1 comes out on the 31st)
[03:16] <DarkwingDuck> Here are the list of new bugs. https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New
[03:16] <DarkwingDuck> Replicate and confirm the bugs is a good start.
[03:16] <philipballew> gotta build that karma somehow
[03:17] <DarkwingDuck> This is a simple way to help with Unity
[03:19]  * eps would really like to see how viable Natty is on machines with older, less-capable video hardware
[03:19] <philipballew> unity is gonna be interesting. should see what happens
[03:19] <DarkwingDuck> :)
[03:19] <pleia2> ok, anything else?
[03:20] <pleia2> eps: if Unity doesn't work for some reason it falls back to regular gnome (it did this flawlessly on my VM), so I wouldn't worry too much
[03:21] <pleia2> alright, I think we can wrap this up then :)
[03:21] <pleia2> thanks everyone
[03:21] <pleia2> [03:21] <DarkwingDuck> :D
[03:22] <philipballew>   :)
[03:25] <iheartubuntu> does anyone here have any experience with LinuxCNC?
[03:25] <iheartubuntu> http://www.linuxcnc.org/
[03:25] <pleia2> I'll be in puerto rico during our next meeting
[03:25] <akk> puerto rico! sounds fun
[03:26] <pleia2> yeah, my boyfriend is going for work so I'm tagging along
[03:26] <pleia2> (resort hotel paid for by work? don't mind if I do!)
[03:26] <akk> \o/
[03:26] <iheartubuntu> NICE!
[03:26] <pleia2> networking conferences in tropical places are nice :)
[03:26]  * iheartubuntu lived in BVIs for a year
[03:27] <iheartubuntu> any plans to go to Tortola pleia2?
[03:27] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: no plans aside from pools and pina coladas
[03:27] <pleia2> we're staying in san juan
[03:27] <iheartubuntu> nice
[03:28] <eps> Say hola to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PuertoRicoTeam
[03:28] <pleia2> :)
[03:29] <pleia2> I'm actually going to try very hard to take a proper Ubuntu-less vacation
[03:29] <pleia2> (I'll have email so I'll probably fail - but I will try!)
[03:32] <iheartubuntu> for me i go to bed and wake up in what seems like 1 minute of sleep
[03:32] <iheartubuntu> like i didnt even sleep!
[03:32] <iheartubuntu> but i did!
[03:33] <iheartubuntu> so is the life
[03:33] <iheartubuntu> i could use a vaca
[03:34] <akk> You want a cow?
[03:34] <akk> :)
[03:34] <iheartubuntu> -tion
[03:34] <iheartubuntu> :)
[03:39] <iheartubuntu> my dad just bought a Gateway slimline computer today. i3 with 1TB starage. not bad for $500
[03:39] <iheartubuntu> 4GB mem
[03:41] <iheartubuntu> I tried to go into windows and it took more time for the "first time turning on" section than it did to install ubuntu
[03:41] <iheartubuntu> so i tried to burn a system restore disc in win7 in case ubuntu gave me a prob. win7 failed at burning a disc!
[03:41] <iheartubuntu> so i said piss on it, and wiped win7 off and installed ubuntu 10.10
[03:41] <iheartubuntu> my dad is super happy!
[03:41] <akk> yay
[03:42] <iheartubuntu> i has 10.04 on his old single core P4 with 1GB ram system and it finally failed. but not bad for 11 yr old computer
[03:42] <grantbow-a> Sorry for missing the meeting, delayed without a computer. Ttys
[03:43] <eps> iheartubuntu: I hope they let you order recovery discs somehow
[03:43] <pleia2> grantbow-a: no worries, not much on the agenda anyway :)
[03:43] <iheartubuntu> ive got a free ubuntu recovery disc :)
[03:43] <iheartubuntu> no win7 for us
[03:43] <grantbow-a> K, thanks
[03:44] <iheartubuntu> my sis had a prob with newegg a few years ago
[03:44] <eps> Sometimes you "need" one ... to upgrade firmware, get warranty support, etc.
[03:44] <grantbow-a> This android phone isn't ideal for IRC. Cya.
[03:45] <iheartubuntu> how would i do a firmware upgrade on an ubuntu system anyways?
[03:45] <iheartubuntu> if they only offer EXE
[03:46] <eps> Boot from flash media?
[03:46] <akk> Sometimes you can make a bootable DOS or Freedos disk.
[03:46] <akk> That won't work for all firmware upgrades, though.
[03:53] <iheartubuntu> ohh interesting. ive always wondered that
[03:53] <iheartubuntu> but then, i cant recall the last time i ever needed to do a firmware upgrade
[03:54] <akk> We just had to on our router -- there was an SSL bug, and fixing it required running a windows-or-mac program. :(
[03:56] <iheartubuntu> that bytes
[03:56] <eps> Confused: Gateway is Acer now? http://secure.tx.acer.com/RCDB/Main.aspx?brand=gateway
[03:57] <iheartubuntu> i heard gateway was either going to fold or get bought out
[03:57] <iheartubuntu> i like gateway more than acer
[03:57] <iheartubuntu> some of the acer boxes look so cheap
[03:57] <pleia2> I liked the cow boxes
[03:57] <iheartubuntu> i have two cows
[03:57] <iheartubuntu> 32 bit at work, 64 at home right here
[03:58] <akk> I saw a nice gateway netbook in a store a few weeks ago.
[03:58] <akk> Don't think I'd seen them in stores before.
[03:58] <akk> but yeah, I liked the cows too
[04:00] <philipballew> gateway used to have their own stores. they made the computer store what it is
[04:01] <eps> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway,_Inc.
[04:04] <iheartubuntu> i used to have a gateway store near me in monrovia
[04:04] <jhanafrog> what's going on peeps
[04:05] <jhanafrog> i hear good things about gateways and linux
[04:05] <eps> Speaking of cows, Ben & Jerry's Free Cone Day is April 12 this year.
[04:05] <philipballew> i have a emachine
[04:05] <philipballew> its owned by gateway
[04:05] <philipballew> best desktop ive owned
[04:10] <iheartubuntu> emachine?
[04:17] <jhanafrog> whoa serious philipballew?  i didn't know emachines were that great
[04:18] <jhanafrog> when they first came out, like a million years ago, they were like the "thrift" model
[04:18] <philipballew> it may be not that powerful but the thing had been through hell and come out alive. many times. it has never had a problem and its been 7  years. ubuntu runs perfect on it
[04:19] <jhanafrog> or thrift "brand"
[04:19] <jhanafrog> maybe your model is a higher end one though, and more recent
[04:19] <philipballew> its after gateway bought them that they got better
[04:19] <akk> When they were young and the thrift brand, they were sometimes quite good (though variable).
[04:19] <philipballew> it is basic but just robust
[04:19] <akk> We had a couple of emachines that were way better than, say, Dells or Gateways of the time.
[04:20] <akk> They used standard parts so they were repairable.
[04:20] <philipballew> thats one thing i like
[04:30] <Eureka> wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/Current edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/MeetingChecklist edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11April24 edited
[04:46] <Eureka> wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11March27 edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Menu edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings edited
[04:51] <DarkwingDuck> Whoot! darkwingduck@StCanard:~$ sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc
[04:51] <DarkwingDuck> 390721968+0 records in
[04:51] <DarkwingDuck> 390721968+0 records out
[04:51] <DarkwingDuck> 200049647616 bytes (200 GB) copied, 32814 s, 6.1 MB/s
[05:05] <jhanafrog> haha that's cool DarkwingDuck
[05:05] <DarkwingDuck> Now I'm going to boot to it with my netbook and see how it really worked.
[05:05] <DarkwingDuck> If it does I'll be blogging tonight.
[05:08] <jhanafrog> your netbook has a 200GB drive in it?
[05:08] <jhanafrog> or is it an external drive?
[05:08] <DarkwingDuck> No,
[05:08] <DarkwingDuck>  /dev/sdc was a portable drive
[05:11] <jhanafrog> 1
[05:11] <jhanafrog> ok
[06:39] <jhanafrog> is there a way to include a password to a remote system in scp for automation in a script?
[06:40] <nhaines> jhanafrog: don't do that.  Use an RSA key instead.
[06:41] <jhanafrog> no thanks
[06:42] <nhaines> Suit yourself.
[06:42] <jhanafrog> i just need something simple right now
[18:12] <pleia2> reminder, anyone interested in doing global jam sessions #ubuntu-classroom (and #ubuntu-classroom-chat for questions) is doing the global jam bootcamp today with a bunch of people presenting on jam stuff
[18:12] <pleia2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJamBootcamp
[18:12] <pleia2> started at 9
[18:14] <kdub_> whats globaljam
[18:15] <pleia2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/NattyGlobalJam
[19:20] <Guest460372> hehe
[19:20] <Guest460372> weeee
[19:20] <Guest460372> i need to try natty in a vm
[19:58] <Guest460372> hey iheartubuntu
[19:59] <Guest460372> do you like my new nick?  i used python to generate the number randomly
[20:01]  * Guest460372 eats a piece of seaweed
[21:51] <iheartubuntu> i love the name
[21:51] <iheartubuntu> its very becoming