[00:54] How do I do multiple firefox instances with unity? [00:54] it seems to only want me to have one === yofel_ is now known as yofel [01:04] i think if you middle click the icon it'll launch another instnace [01:05] firefox also has a ctrl+n button you can use [01:05] That’s just multiple windows. [01:06] The last time i checked Firefox didn’t seem to support multiple instances at all. Which sucks. But neither did, say, Gnome. [01:10] well i'm assuming that's what he meant by multiple instances. [01:11] Unity-2D doesn’t seem to do anything when i middle-click a launcher button. [01:23] jono, re: new icons. I don't know if it makes a difference, but empathy's new icons are in 2.91.X and we'll see them in OO. AFAIK [01:24] bcurtiswx, cool [01:24] jono, wasn't sure if the others are the same or not === 50UAAGBPG is now known as Amaranth === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero [08:01] greetings everybody [08:05] good morning [08:18] good morning [08:31] good morning, everyone! what's currently the right way to disable the global menu in unity? still UBUNTU_MENUPROXY= ? [08:33] htorque: hey! [08:33] htorque: yeah [08:33] just unset the variable [08:34] didrocks, interesting, because that doesn't work for the latex editor Kile [08:41] htorque: are you sure it doesn't fork or something like that? I'm not sure KDE qt application are using this variable. Something to ask to agateau [08:42] htorque: didrocks: Qt does not use this variable (surprisingly, it does not load gtk modules! :) ) [08:42] didrocks, seems they don't. just tested it with the editor Kate and it eouldn't work there either. [08:43] htorque: didrocks: iirc the appmenu wiki page mentions the correct var [08:44] mmm it does not [08:44] * agateau fixes the wiki [08:45] htorque: QT_X11_NO_NATIVE_MENUBAR=1 myapp should do the job [08:45] agateau, great, that worked, thanks! [08:45] (htorque: and don't forget to report a bug if you find an app which is broken with appmenu) [08:45] agateau, that was the next thing on my list ;) [08:46] htorque: good! [08:46] agateau, i forgot, which one was the right package for such bug reports? [08:47] htorque: appmenu-qt (sometimes the bug is in libdbusmenu-qt, but in this case I take care of reassigning) [08:47] agateau, good, thanks again === lool- is now known as lool === API is now known as Guest48731 === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic === daker_ is now known as daker === daker_ is now known as daker === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === Guest48731 is now known as apinheiro_lunch === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === apinheiro_lunch is now known as apinheiro === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [15:06] kenvandine: I have a wee problem with Gwibber being a tad special today. upgraded work machine to natty. No tweets, tried to stop and restart stuff, and now gwibber is crashing https://bugs.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/724918/comments/4 [15:06] Ubuntu bug 724918 in gwibber (Ubuntu) "gwibber crashed with DBusException in call_blocking(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." [Medium,New] [15:08] czajkowski, can you get me a traceback from the gwibber-service? [15:08] killall gwibber gwibber-service [15:08] gwibber-service -d -o [15:20] czajkowski@Penny:~$ gwibber-service -d -o [15:20] Found gwibber-service already running, exiting [15:20] killall gwibber gwibber-service [15:20] then run it [15:20] oh... maybe it isn't dieing [15:21] aye I did the kill all [15:21] killall -9 gwibber gwibber-service [15:21] ahh that killed it [15:22] saying my accounts need to be reauthorised [15:22] loads and then crashes again [15:23] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/744997 [15:23] Error: Launchpad bug 744997 not found [15:23] hey guys [16:38] njpatel, didrocks: can I get a 2nd approval for https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/unity/fix-740360/+merge/55319 ? [16:38] Ubuntu bug 55319 in spiralsynthmodular (Ubuntu) "Request sync of latest spiralsynthmodular version from Debian, oveversion" [Undecided,Invalid] [16:40] rodrigo_, +! [16:40] +1 [16:40] even [16:40] njpatel, ok thanks [16:49] Cimi, When we're making something insensitive should we blend with white or the background color in the theme? https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/indicator-datetime/bevel+utc/+merge/54684 [16:49] Ubuntu bug 54684 in Nautilus "High CPU usage" [Critical,Fix released] === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic [16:50] tedg, good point, probably background [16:55] mterry, Yeah, I was asking Cimi as I thought he might know how other people handle it. [16:55] mterry, It seems like the background color is the best we have. [16:56] tedg, alright, I'll look into patching it [17:00] tedg: what's that? [17:00] what's this cairo drawing [17:02] tedg: and static colors are always wrong [17:02] tedg: so you should pick the right one [17:02] Cimi, This is a custom widget [17:02] Cimi, We want it to "look insensitive" when it is. [17:02] Cimi, The idea was to dim it slightly. [17:03] tedg: please don't mess with UI without asking me [17:03] Cimi, ? [17:03] tedg: I will take care with the approval with Otto [17:03] Cimi, There is no approval with Otto here. [17:03] tedg: I'm in charge of controlling the style guidelines [17:04] tedg: so, if you're doing a cusstom widget/whatever, poke me before [17:04] tedg: so we are sure to do it correctly and compatible with radiance/ambiance and other themes as well [17:04] (High Contrast too) [17:05] a fill with pure white seems an issue [17:05] Cimi, Frankly, that's impractical. But, I'd your advice on this question. What color do you think should be used? [17:05] tedg: for what? [17:05] Cimi, To dim the map. [17:05] I repeat, I'd like to see the widget to tell you [17:05] Cimi, Okay, go to datetime, pull up the settings. [17:05] tedg: I would say [17:05] base[INSENSITIVE] or bg[INSENSITIVE] [17:06] LET ME SEE [17:06] ops :D [17:06] one second tedg [17:06] tedg: does the color of the map change? [17:06] Cimi, No, they're PNGs [17:06] tedg: ok, so white sounds ok [17:07] tedg: we just don't care [17:07] tedg: I would say again bg[INSENSITIVE] [17:07] Cimi, Won't that look odd in a dark theme? [17:07] tedg: or maybe bg[NORMAL] [17:07] Yeah, I think bg[INSENSITIVE] makes the most sense. [17:08] tedg: either insensitive or normal [17:08] normal could be good as it blends with the borders around the picture [17:08] Cimi, Which would you prefer? [17:08] ops, with the frame around [17:09] tedg: I would say bg normal just for this reason [17:09] what do you think? [17:09] if your goal is to make the png dimmed [17:10] tedg: though I would desaturate it a bit or make it transparent [17:10] instead covering it [17:10] or a combo [17:11] tedg: anyway I know that poking me could slow down things, but it's better to slow down now than fixing visual bugs in the future :) [17:12] tedg: also, what happened to my branch proposed for indicator-messages with the updated bubbles and text? [17:12] Cimi, It was crashing indicator messages, like I replied on the merge request. [17:14] tedg: let me catch it [17:15] tedg, branch updated to use background color [17:15] mterry, Great, thanks! === alecu is now known as alecu-lunch [17:40] tedg: I've updated the patch [17:41] cimi_, Sweet! [17:41] tedg: https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/indicator-messages/update-fixes-to-right-label-and-icon-dimension/+merge/55377 [17:41] Ubuntu bug 55377 in linux-source-2.6.15 (Ubuntu) "Soft lockup on CPU after restore from hybernation" [Undecided,Invalid] [17:41] ubot5: you're stupid [17:43] cimi_: What happened to all the old revisions? [17:43] tedg: I've created a new branch [17:44] cimi, Still, where are the older revisions? Did you merge them in? [17:44] yes [17:51] Cimi, I'm unclear on what you fixed in the lp:~cimi/indicator-messages/fixes-to-right-label-and-icon-dimension to branch to make it stop crashing. Can you highlight that for me? [17:52] tedg: it was not crashing before [17:52] tedg: was your own branch maybe [17:52] I just updated it to trunk and using gvariant [17:53] tedg: I've just grabbed a clean version from trunk, applied that, installed... works [17:53] Cimi, Uhm. It crashes in time, what did you do to test? [17:53] tedg: I've tested with empathy, gwibber, evolution [17:53] tedg: where does it crash for you? [17:53] do you have a reproduciable case? a bt? [17:53] Cimi, After about an hour or two of use. [17:54] Cimi, Nope. [17:54] tedg: ok, let's keep it opened [17:54] Cimi, I think that I commented to that extent on the merge request. [17:54] no iirc tedg [18:14] tedg: you didn't say anything about any issue in the previous merge request [18:14] tedg: just a general "messaging menu gets corrupted every so often" [18:15] tedg: I'm not experiencing any of this, could you please try my branch again in a clean installation? [18:15] tedg: here was working fine, and is working fine [18:15] tedg: I can't reproduce your issues at all, and the code seems quite ok [18:20] Cimi, Okay, so why don't your run that version for a couple of days and get back to me. It's going to be on the order of hours. I'd also recommend running liferea, as it hits the menu pretty hard. [18:20] tedg: ok I am running it [18:26] tedg: what kind of corruption did you have? [18:26] Cimi, The menu lost all it's entries. And other menus would as well. [18:26] Cimi, Probably a stray pointer of some such. === andrea_ is now known as AndreaAzzarone [18:27] could be, i bet the font dimensioin tedg [18:27] AndreaAzzarone: would you mind fixing a bug for ayatana-scrollbars? :) [18:28] cimi, telle me! :) [18:28] *tell [18:29] AndreaAzzarone: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-scrollbar/+bug/736992 [18:29] Ubuntu bug 736992 in ayatana-scrollbar "Rendering error on multiple monitors" [Medium,Triaged] [18:29] AndreaAzzarone: should be trivial to fix, we need to deal with dimensions [18:30] like translating absolute coordinates (whole screen) into relative dimensions [18:30] (per monitor) [18:31] Cimi, there is already a branch... lp:~bilalakhtar/ayatana-scrollbar/fix-736992 [18:31] AndreaAzzarone: broken [18:32] AndreaAzzarone: that branch does nothing [18:32] Cimi, ok i will look to that! [18:32] gord: ^^ [18:33] AndreaAzzarone: grande! [18:33] Cimi, :) [18:36] Cimi, There is an expiry date? Because i don't know if i can fix today! :( [18:36] AndreaAzzarone: when you want, better before thursday [18:37] AndreaAzzarone: otherwise next thursday [18:37] Cimi, thursday should be ok! [18:37] awesome === doodoo is now known as mobster === alecu-lunch is now known as alecu === daker is now known as daker_ [19:47] smspillaz, yt? [20:13] how can I bother about mech in ubuntu store? [20:13] *merchandize [21:39] Grr, I can't pull the Unity panel down to restore a maximized window today. :( [22:48] hey all [23:14] the shortcut key for the unity launcher behaves strange: is mapped to show-launcher, but even when I press Tab, the launcher shows up. It is as if the keys pressed very shortly after are being ignored. [23:15] s/strange/strangely [23:16] hv: Super-Tab no longer works for me as a window flippy deal. [23:17] nhaines: maybe it is set to Alt-Tab for you? [23:18] hv: that's just the standard window switcher for me. [23:18] nhaines: I have to hold , pause a moment, and then pres Tab for it act properly. [23:19] hv: in Ubuntu 10.10 (for example), it displays all windows and lets you "flip" through them with an animation. So I presumed that maybe you were looking for that. [23:19] hv: If you've remapped Alt-Tab to Super-Tab, then that's another issue. :) [23:20] nhaines: there are a bunch of switcher plugins for compiz, that one is called shift I guess. [23:20] nhaines: even if I did that it should still work [23:20] hv: I was just thinking that a default install of natty does not have anything mapped to Super-Tab. [23:21] So if you've customized it, then yes it should work as you intend. [23:21] nhaines: you can enable the shift plugin in gconf-editor if you want. [23:25] nhaines: my the problem is with the [apparently] screwed up logic used for showing the launcher: When another shortcut key matches the launcher should not still show up. currently, the shortcut key you pressed (e.g. Super+W, if you pressed them fast enough) is acted upon and ADDITIONALLY the launcher show up! === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away