# /srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/03/29/#kubuntu.txt

Alonea James147 Alonea === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway having a slight issue with Kate. How do I force it to not turn on syntax highlighting? the syntax highlighting for LISP would be fine if it highlighted the matching parentheses, but its not. How do I get it to stop switching the syntax highlighting or how do I get it to show matching parentheses like it does on "normal" mode? 00:49 Alonea: tools > highlighting .. 00:50 James147: I did, but it changed it back when I saved 00:51 James147: though it seems odd it doesn't show matching when on LISP mode seeing how its all parentheses. 00:52 I cant get my mic to work... what are some things i could install to get it to work? 01:01 === yofel_ is now known as yofel roxy: most likely you don't need to install anything to get it to work. It's usually a configuration issue, or in somecases the driver for the soundcard isn't fully implemented 01:05 roxy: start by checking the mixer settings 01:06 roxy: for me, getting rid of pulseaudio fixed my mic, but make sure its pulseaudio is the culprit, though its easy to reinstall if its not. 01:07 roxy: ^^ firstly though, make sure the capture devices arnt muted in lasamixer 01:08 alsamixer ^^ (run it in a terminal) 01:08 kk checking things and doing things let ya know in a bit :) 01:09 James147:  ok in alsamixer there is no bar thing for the mic :-s 01:11 roxy: but is it muted? (also make sure your looking at the capture devices) 01:12 ^^ f4 to switch to capture 01:12 and f6 to change sound card if you have more then one 01:12 James147: I gots it and the mic option there was on 0 there 01:13 roxy: out of curiosity, is it a built in mic on a eee netbook or a regular plugin mic? if its USB, it can be finicky. 01:14 built in and my computer is a netbook 01:14 roxy: 0 means its on, MM means mute 01:14 what does it mean in playback option that it has no bar on it? 01:15 last time i got it to work was something i installed cant member(done it in terminal) but it brought up pluseaudio preferences and went to input devices and turned it on and the mic worked... 01:18 pavucontrol ? 01:20 >_> 01:28 James147: thankies that is it :) 01:31 Uhh. 01:39 naomi_: Do you have some Kubuntu related support question? 01:40 I have no idea what on earth i'm doing with half of this stuff. 01:40 naomi_: perhaps if you were able to phrase your goal in the form of a question, someone in the channel may be able to help you understand whatever your trying to do 01:42 naomi_: any spicific question you want us to help wih? 01:42 I'm new to the whole linx thing. I'm not sure how to do anything, regarding like downloading stuff. Or having to do commands and stuff in the terminal window. 01:43 linux.^ 01:43 naomi_: you dont really need to worry about doing anything in a terminal ^^ though it is useful to learn and a very powerful tool 01:44 i am new too, i like kpackagekit :D 01:45 naomi_: as for downloading things, what thigs? 01:45 kujules: yup, package managment software is one of the great features of linux :D 01:45 Hello guys. 01:45 no need of use commands, easiest way 01:46 kujules: ?? 01:46 i am talking of kpackagekit 01:46 kujules: yeah, most command line utils have nice gui alternitives :) 01:47 * James147 still finds it more effecient to use the terminal though... at elast most of the time :D 01:47 yes it is. I am sorry but, i press the S-Abf + R < my pc does not react 01:48 Abf? 01:49 S-Abf? 01:49 the terminal is for professional users 01:49 Yeah but for downloading things? 01:49 I had to download Konversation in the terminal window. >.> 01:49 S-Abf -> magic Sysrg key 01:49 Or install, whatever. 01:49 kujules: would say intermediate or greater, not neccessorly professional 01:49 naomi, i started to use kubuntu for nearly 2 weeks,  and i give up to unterstand how to install things , because i have kpackagekit 01:50 naomi__: most programs can easaly be downloaded and install via a packagemanagment software, there is kpackagekit for the gui, or apt-get for the command line 01:50 kujules: ^^ that is how you install things :) 01:51 not really 01:51 for example i tried to install firefox 01:51 i search 2 days, no result! 01:51 i came here, read what ubotto gave 01:51 and i type that in terminal! wow, i have firefox :D 01:52 what is kpackagekit? 01:52 naomi__: kpackagekit is a software managment application ^^ it manages software :) basically it can download install update and remove packages (and packages can contain applications) 01:52 is that like ummm synaptic package manager or something? 01:53 i have that. 01:53 naomi__: yes, though synaptic is what the gnome desktop envrioment uses... 01:54 naomi__: so i have to ask, are you using kubuntu or ubuntu ?  :) 01:54 thats what i have. >.> 01:54 i have no idea lol. 01:54 i searched "irc clients for linux" and it gave me this. 01:54 ubuntu i think? 01:54 ermm. 10.04? 01:55 naomi__: both kubuntu and ubuntu share the same versioning ^^ :) 01:55 so how does this synaptic thing work? 01:55 how does answering noob's questions all day not get frustrating. :P 01:55 naomi__: you might want to ask that in #ubuntu they will better deal with gnome related questions 01:56 okie thanks. 01:56 hey everyone, just a quick question..is there a keyboard shortcut for locking + unlocking widgets? or where shoult I be looking to set/change this? under global, standard or custom keyboard shortcuts? 02:00 === root is now known as Guest95838 === dave is now known as bobthebuilder hi all, newbie here.  I was wondering can I get skype for kubuntu? I have looked in the repositories but there are just add-ons? 03:23 bobthebuilder: http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/ 03:24 ^^ not that it ever updates 03:24 it never updates? 03:25 they have prity much abandoned sykepe for linux without actually say as much ^^ its been taged beta 2 for years now :p 03:26 lol..really? Oh my, so long as it works I guess? 03:26 it works ^^ 03:27 jut far behind in features :( 03:27 yer, its a shame but still, if it can used on voip and sharing files then I'm happy at that :) 03:29 well, thank you James147 I will go and see if all is well now it's installed....thanx again. 03:30 hai 03:37 i'm looking at files from my Windows partition 03:37 what i want to do is put them on the desktop 03:37 not on the little specialised desktop, on the general one 03:37 how do i do so? 03:37 nvm ^_^ 03:38 okay, totally have a questio 03:49 i want to make one of those self-contained desktops to put pdfs and a few other things in? how to do so such that it is in the actual folder on the desktop, not merely on the desktop on the first layer 03:50 _sophia: you talking about the folder view? 03:56 === AndrewMC is now known as Guest13774 === seawolf is now known as Guest63318 === iflema is now known as Guest40902 === Guest40902 is now known as iflema now how do i place things i have on the desktop, into the folder view? ;d 04:24 _sophia: you cant... since the things on the desktop are widgets, and the filder view wants files or folders (you can find the orignal files and place them in the folder however) 04:25 o_O 04:26 i thought the things on the desktop are icons 04:26 and icons are widgets :) at least on the desktop and panel 04:26 if you drag a file to the desktop plasma creates an icon that points to that file ^^ 04:26 _sophia: this might be intresting: http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma 04:27 ty, will look at that in a bit, playing chess right now >.> 04:29 ^^ although its abit dated now :p 04:29 hellos 04:43 so i did a fresh install of kubuntu today. did the update, and now my standard user is a bit messed up 04:44 CartoonCat: can you provide us with some more information so that we can help you. 04:44 was fine before the update. now, when i try to install from a .deb, give the password, it /looks/ like it says 'your user is not in the sudoers' but it flashes /very/ fast 04:45 Mase_wk: working on it, sorry slow typing 04:45 at the same time, konsole is not acting right, like all my bash settings are, wrong or gone. (no tab, no colors, etc) 04:46 CartoonCat: so if you move to a VT and type sudo bash does it work as expected ? 04:47 i will see 04:47 s/sudo bash/sudo -i/ 04:48 :) 04:48 Mase_wk: ah that /does/ say im not in the sudoers 04:48 ok, and you were previously ? 04:48 CartoonCat: what does "groups" say? 04:48 Mase_wk: Yes, or at least i assume so since these things were working before the upgrade 04:49 James147: good call, only my own group 04:49 i know that isnt right at all 04:49 CartoonCat: you need to be in the admin group to have sudo rights 04:50 and you're logging in as the same user as you were before ? 04:50 Mase_wk: yessir 04:50 CartoonCat: reboot to recovery mode and add yourself to the group 04:50 and the upgrade finished successfully ? 04:50 I /can/ su to root still 04:50 Mase_wk: it said so, piped up said /reboot was needed ot finish/ did so, and blamo 04:50 ^^ you should never beable to su to root :p 04:50 hmm ok interesting. not something i've ever experienced 04:51 James147: yea i know, one of kubs slight, failings 04:51 a quick setting of root pass and its better 04:51 CartoonCat: its not a failing ^^ it to stop attacks agienst week root passwords 04:51 with sudo you shouldnt need the root password 04:51 James147: I know, thats why I set root pass to a variant of my WPA passwords =) 04:52 * James147 thinks thats even worst O-o 04:52 really? interesting. id liek to hear why 04:53 You can brute a WPA with some tricks 04:53 wpa keys are sharable ^^ and that 04:53 it might be a stretch to think that someone would translate that to your machine but it's not that far a stretch 04:54 ok, you didnt read it the way i meant it. it /is not/ a wpa key that is used, i use the wpa key algo to genrate a hex (and use the first 30 chars of it) 04:54 CartoonCat: anything important should get it's own unique password and a long one at that 04:54 size does matter :) 04:54 but then i have to ask why root even needs a password when you have sudo ^^ 04:55 James147: im old school, root always had a pw and no user had sudo rights 04:56 CartoonCat: then remove sudo ^^ no point in having two secutiry holes 04:56 James147: do you really think a strong root password is a security hole? 04:57 CartoonCat: any password is more of a hole then a disabled account ^^ 04:58 James147: ok ill grant that. ill rephrase. do you really think that a 30 char, mixed case/let/num password is burtable whith in a reasonable time frame ? 04:59 ^^ and you remember that password with out it being writed down? 05:00 ir's basically about layering your system 05:01 Nope, but it also is not stored in one palce whole, its in 4 parts in a list of a few dozen other, same length char groups 05:01 each layer of security just makes it less likely that anyone motivated enough will be able to get access to your machine in the time frame that is suitable for them 05:02 ^^ seems more effort then not having a password 05:02 James147: ha ha when you change your arguement to being too much effort I think you may be losing ground :) 05:02 James147: your likely right. ill look at moving past it. 05:03 Daskreech: I mean, you have a password on your root for convience (if you get lock out of sudo?) but if you have to find 4 parts of the password to gain access again, you may as well boot to recovery mode 05:03 Remove recovery mode!!! 05:04 In any case won't recovery mode ask for the password now that root has one? 05:04 Daskreech: then you can always boot a live cd for such times 05:04 you could always have myfavouriteversetoasongthatiknowreallywell 05:04 hahah, boot what ? 05:04 which would still be very difficult to brute force 05:04 no optical, no usb boot options 05:05 Mase_wk: Written in  l33t then converted to chinese :) 05:05 CartoonCat: recovery mode ^^ should drop you to a root prompt... not sure if it asks for a password if you set one though 05:05 How'd you get kubuntu on there? 05:05 James147: yea i know rec mode is there, i had not got ot killing it yet 05:05 Daskreech: good thing ubuntu has a utf8 term by default :) 05:06 Daskreech: bios password, its one of the other groups on the list 05:06 * Mase_wk wonders what l33t is in chinese :) 05:06 as a point, that  part list makes up pretty much all my passwords everywhere, but with any idea how to combine them, your going to be working for a while 05:06 wth, missed the 4 05:07 CartoonCat: bios pass is only as secure as the lock on the box ^^ which most people dont have 05:08 since all you need to do is remove the battery to reset the bios :p 05:08 James147: na that doesnt work on most laptops 05:09 but unless you in a very untrusting envrioment you dont need to worry about phycial access to th comp ^^ 05:09 well, its a laptop 05:10 \it\ goes to the untrusting environs willingly 05:10 CartoonCat: is the drive encrypted? 05:13 James147: has a password but no, ive not done full hd enc 05:14 i know, i got lazy there 05:14 === |GuS| is now known as [GuS] DarthFrog: Bodhi 05:29 === Guest36926 is now known as IdleOne wer kennt sich mit bion einstellungen aus? Guten morgen. 06:21 bios 06:21 wer kennt sich mit bion einstellungen aus? Guten morgen. 06:27 bios 06:27 uwe: please don't double post, and BIOS is not really kubuntu related 06:28 if i have an icon on my desktop, how do i figure out where the icon points? 07:15 o.o? 07:30 system-config-printer-kde crashes for me since upgrade to 4.6.1 via kubuntu backports ppa. crash still happens after upgrade to natty. details here: http://paste.kde.org/8411/ 07:58 any ideas how to track it down? 07:59 _human_blip_: you can install the debug symbols and get the backtrace 08:05 === james is now known as Guest4692 hallo 08:12 Mase_wk: is there an associated dbg package? it is python. there is already a backtrace here: http://paste.kde.org/8411/ 08:15 === mirco__ is now known as mirco How do I enable Desktop Effects when the options are all grayed out? 08:17 Like the "Enable desktop effects" 08:18 ? 08:18 afaik if that's grayed out it means that your driver does not support desktop effects 08:18 susunberg: http://imagebin.org/145457 08:19 I had them before on KDE but had to reinstall kubuntu-desktop. 08:19 On GNOME Compiz still works dreamily. 08:20 I'm trying to like KDE, but it's just one thing after another, and it keeps pushing me back to cooperative Gnome 08:22 don't know sorry. What i might do is to check .xsession-errors for some hints what is going on wrong 08:22 another thing might be google for "kde" + "desktop effects" + "technical issues" + "your display driver" if you haven't done that yet .. 08:23 Starminn: I suspect your display driver is unsupported by KWin effects 08:23 Tm_T: They worked before. 08:23 susundberh: Alright. 08:24 Starminn: with Kwin? what have you upgraded since? 08:24 susundberg: Display driver == graphics driver? 08:24 ye 08:24 Tm_T: I installed kubuntu-desktop, and enabled Desktop effects. Then KDE decided to go postal on itself and nearly uninstalled everything KDE-based. (Been using it for 2 days) Now this time, Effects won't work. 08:25 Everything is the same as it was last time around. 08:25 hmm, sounds strange 08:28 Tm_T: I agree. Everytime I try Kubuntu this stuff happens. I want to like it but it's hard when nothing wants ot work. 08:29 By the way, I assume http://imagebin.org/145458 it's ATI Radeon as my graphics driver? 08:30 Yeah, that's it. (Sorry, used to Terminal, not-so-much GUIs for this stuff) 08:31 === thomi_ is now known as thomi Got it, guys. I'll post a link. 08:35 Tm_T susundberg: http://matthieu.yiptong.ca/2010/09/28/enable-desktop-effects-in-kubuntu-10-10-using-radeon-driver/ (Thank you for the beautiful search query suggestion, by the way, susund.) 08:36 Just screw the GUI and manually configure it. *shrug* Works for me. 08:36 Thanks, both of you. 08:36 Starminn: good you found the solution 08:37 Starminn: I use opensource driver so all works just fine 08:37 s/so/and/ 08:37 Tm_T: 6-year-old computer, shipped with Windows XP, never really knew much about Linux at the time, and I've only been running Linux for  about 2 months now. It's a very customizable box, though, so I'll probably gradually add on and I intend to make it as open as possible. 08:38 Starminn: you are apparently using opensource drivers too, weird that it didn't accept them rightaway 08:39 === javalogger is now known as apachelogger Tm_T: Ah. Goody, then. And yes, I'm not quite sure. *shrug* 08:40 Tm_T: Any ideas on why it says it couldn't enable Blur or Explosion when clearly Explosion is working (not sure what blur does, btu it had the same message last time too) 08:41 Starminn: something is gone a mess in your system 08:43 :( 08:43 Starminn: or so it sounds, hmmm, possibly worth checking if all what kubuntu-desktop should bring is actually installed 08:52 Tm_T: I've isntalled from the kubuntu-desktop package twice in the last two days. Certainly the meta package is correct. 08:53 Tm_T: I did save a list the first time, though, of everything it bring's supposed ot bring in case I have to uninstall it. 08:53 Tm_T: It's so long, though... If you wanted to read through it sure but it's very lengthy. 08:53 Starminn: sorry, have no time to check 08:54 Tm_T: Oh, no, I wasn't expecting you to check lol 08:54 Tm_T: Is there anything that could give me transparent titlebars? 08:55 Starminn: fake, yes, ummm... 09:03 Starminn: cannot remember the name of the windeco that provided fake transparency, was it "Crystal" ? 09:05 Starminn: yup, Crystal 09:07 Yeah, that's it 09:07 "Cyrstal is the default decorator since 6.6"? 09:08 Oh, nevermind, I see now. 09:09 === sre-su_ is now known as sre-su Hi, I'm having some graphic glitches in plasma: http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1117/plasmabug.png They told me in #kde that it's probably a video driver bug. Can someone help? 09:17 I'm using the radeon driver btw 09:19 spirov92: hi, how much mem your graphics card has? 09:26 about 500 mb, I think 09:26 so it's not that 09:26 === naturalpsychic is now known as majidkhan hey im trying to install nvidia driver i got this error message" ERROR: Unable to find the system utility ld; please make sure you have the package 'binutils'                   installed.  If you do have binutils installed, then please check that ld` is in your PATH. 11:17 xD 11:18 have you tried turning it off and on again? @tweeterweb_ (ok,just joking) 11:19 have u installed the package? 11:19 redjhawk:gone 11:20 xD 11:20 cant install it just show the error mesage 11:20 oh 11:20 not :D 11:20 tweeterweb_: ok lets see which package oyu have to install 11:20 redhawk: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.44.run 11:21 is the propietary drivers, i guess 11:22 yes they are 11:22 yes 11:22 why don't you use the package provided by kubuntu? 11:22 how? 11:22 run jockey 11:22 it will help you to install the driver 11:22 jockes is installed by default 11:23 jockey 11:23 wait 11:23 jockey-kde actually 11:23 tweeterweb_: look at this http://wstaw.org/m/2011/03/29/plasma_howto-throw-ball_.gif 11:25 tweeterweb_: i have not nvidia 11:25 but you can activate that using the same 11:25 operations 11:25 mm it doesnt look well 11:27 anywya the program is jockey-kde 11:27 asraniel: and how aboit if he just installs binutils-dev and run that script again? will it work? 11:28 i use ubuntu @ work and debian @ home, so i have no clue of this new (and useful) tools :) 11:31 redjhawl: im done apt-get install binutils then install nvidia driver,i got this   ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing.  For further details, 11:32 please see the section INSTALLING THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver 11:33 download page at www.nvidia.com. 11:33 tweeterweb_: use jockey.kde 11:33 . 11:33 tweeterweb_: which is your language? 11:34 peace-:english 11:34 so .. 11:34 so why you ddind't use jockey-kde? 11:35 peace-:im done using jockey-kde it says theres no proprietary driver installed 11:35 screenshot please 11:35 of jockey-kde 11:36 tweeterweb_: if you want to run that script ,then, i guess, you should run that script from a real console. control+alt+F1, then user & passworkd. Then sudo invoke-rc.d kdm and finally, run that script.... 11:37 redjhawk: sure, but he will run into trouble everytime the kernel updates 11:37 +1 asraniel 11:38 +1 :P 11:38 caffe time 11:39 bye bye and good day from italy 11:39 peace-: additional drivers no proprietary drivers are in use on this system 11:39 all 11:42 hey :) 11:43 have a problem since upgrade to 10.10.. microphone won't work.. 11:43 if i boot from a ubuntu live-cd 10.10, microphone work.. 11:43 i have a 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller 11:44 aplay -l: Intel [HDA Intel], Gerät 0: VT1708S Analog [VT1708S Analog] 11:45 === coaboa_ is now known as coaboa how to exit x server? 12:01 logout 12:03 though it will start again -- you can shutdown it by logging in on terminal (ctrl + alt + f1) and running 'sudo service kdm stop' 12:04 === Guest13774 is now known as AndrewMC === mig is now known as Guest27297 I'm seeing a weird rendering bug in plasma: http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1117/plasmabug.png anyone know how to fix this? 13:14 Hiyas 14:02 === mren|off is now known as mren === apachelogger is now known as thresh_fan_fan hi 14:45 no body there? 14:45 === Guest49290 is now known as admiralf inj3ct0r: plenty of us here 14:47 Tm_T: hi 14:50 :) 14:50 hey Tm_T , Peace-...how's things today ? 14:51 BluesKaj: fine here 14:51 BluesKaj: 20 deggree 14:51 hey folks, i recently wanted to upgrade my kubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 because the summer term starts next week, but when i fired up the daily build in an VM it killed X.org and/or KDE while initilaising Akonadi 14:53 i  didnt had a deeper look into that issue, but id like to here if this is known? 14:53 Peace-, how's things = how are you and how is your day going 14:53 hear 14:54 BluesKaj: well :D because today it's 20 degree out there 14:54 :D 14:54 admiralf, best to ask in #ubntu_1 14:54 thx 14:54 #ubntu+1 14:55 === thresh_fan_fan is now known as apachelogger ubuntu+1 ...I need my glasses fixed 14:55 :) 14:56 sry admiralf 14:56 ok Peace-, it's 4C here and the snow finally melting ...very cool spring so far 15:01 BluesKaj: :) in italy we get flowers now, well maybe 4 week ago 15:01 weeks 15:01 === jtheuer__ is now known as jtheuer Peace-, nice :) 15:02 spring it's the most beautifull season here for me 15:03 in agoust too much hot  , you would die , xD my uncle you know he is canadian and hahhahaha when he came here was agoust :P 35 -39 ° 15:04 Peace-: where are you from? 15:05 hi peeps, I somehow managed to move the system tray, it is now to the left and refuses to go back to the right! 15:05 stephdg: italy 15:05 Peace-: :-) 15:05 stephdg: you ? 15:06 Peace-: from US, but living in India 15:06 stephdg: nice ! 15:06 Peace-: yep :) 15:06 stephdg: temperature? 15:06 well we are a "little" offtopic :D 15:07 Peace-: right now 30 C 15:07 LOL 15:07 and summer is not even here yet Peace- :( 15:08 bobthebuilder, click the cashew in the right corner , then use those little arrows on the left and right to move the panel 15:08 all the panel moves including the K, folders etc... 15:09 I would prefer to leave those as-is and just move from the i-mail-clipboard etc 15:10 maybe you lost the taskbar , bobthebuilder , add another 15:11 err taskmanager I guess 15:12 seems like they keep changing the names 15:13 * genii-around sips and thinks about the kicker 15:14 damn, it's gone to the top now :( 15:14 can I reset my desktop ? 15:15 * BluesKaj wonders if there's a plasma panel tutorial somewhere 15:25 BluesKaj: to do what? 15:25 I've lost the system tray altogether now :(  as you can guess I've just switch from windoze to kubuntu :) 15:27 http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma 15:28 thnx again james 15:29 === dave is now known as Guest76668 hello eveybody 15:40 can not update, my system,  home is full but i can not clean any files? can you helpme? 15:43 ua: what do you mean you cannot clean files? 15:47 James147>thanks for answer, i mean i don't know how to clean unused files in my home partition,  take look this is result of my df -h   http://paste.ubuntu.com/586895/ 15:50 as you see home is full 15:51 can you help me? 15:52 ua: umm... delete them? ... you can use du -sh to see which files and folders are using the most space in 15:53 ^^ i would start with /home (ie:  du -sh /home/USERNAME ) 15:54 ua: you can try running kleansweep to clear some stuff up... though it wont clear that much space, its most likly data files that are causing the problem 15:56 James147>with witch command? 15:57 ua: kleansweep is a gui program ^^ 15:57 James147>what do you mean by " its most likly data files that are causing the problem 15:58 should i install kleansweep? 15:58 ua: things like movies, music and the like 15:59 do  you mean that data files are = something like movies, music..? 16:00 ua: i doupt it will make much difference, it will only clear chaches and histories and such, which will barly take up any space 16:00 ua: yes 16:00 ua: as i said, use "du -sh " to see what folders are taking up the most space 16:01 no i don't have movies or music in my desktop 16:01 James147> 16:01 or filelight... the gui version of du 16:01 ua: well something is... and the only way your going to find out is by searching 16:02 filelight is what I use 16:02 some of my windows won't close by pressing the x. on java chats, digichats, i can't close the windows. is there a command or something to fix that? 16:02 du or filelight will be very usful for finding out what folders are using the space 16:02 naomi_: what programs? 16:03 I also use an alias that maps to "du -Pacmx --max-depth=1 . |sort -g" 16:03 James147>...searching...  but how and where? 16:03 naomi_: xkill 16:03 umm it's a digichat. to do with java. like when pm conversations pop up, i can't close them. 16:04 ua: install filelight, use it to scan your home folder 16:04 you said it's possible with kleansweep, can you tell me how? 16:04 can't exit the window by pressing X. 16:04 meganerd>thanks for answer, just filelight and using by gui, do i? 16:05 ua: no, i said it will clean up some files ^^ it wont touch your data files, while will be using most of the space 16:05 ua: just use filelight and see while files are using the space 16:05 ua: yes 16:05 * James147 grumbles at java 16:05 lol. 16:06 naomi_: which version of java are you useing (open or sun)? 16:06 this is answer for ao-get install filelight= E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? 16:06 umm. i have no idea to be honest. how do i check? 16:07 sorry "apt-get install filelight" 16:07 does ubuntu have anything called liveusb creatore or something in that line....or is that just a fedora package.......makes the usb stick look just like it was the iso on cd...just the same...not generict like unetbootin 16:07 ua: sudo apt-get install filelight 16:08 !liveusb | TheBuntu 16:10 TheBuntu: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent 16:10 ^^ something that does that? 16:10 OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.9.7) (6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1~10.04.1) 16:11 OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 19.0-b09, mixed mode) 16:11 is my java. 16:11 naomi_: try using suns version of java 16:11 !java 16:11 To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases. 16:11 i did that, unfortunly i've had same anwswer 16:11 !partner 16:12 Canonical's partner repositories provide packages a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ \$(lsb_release -sc) partner" » 16:12 ua: do you have another package manager open/running? 16:12 hmmm , kded4 using 100% cpu on both cores after installing a weather widget that froze my desktop , had to suspend kded4 in the system monitor ..is this a known issue , I see some references in google linux but no answers to whaty the cause might be . 16:12 guess i over looked the startup disk creator 16:13 E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? 16:14 ua: do you have another package manager open/running? 16:15 no 16:15 i don't know why 16:15 i don't know why it guives me thais message 16:16 back up question:  I have used rsync to backup monthly my /home files, I'm really thinking about using rdiff-backup now instead.  can I just rdiff-backup into the directory I was using for rsync? 16:16 shane4ubuntu: I don't see why not 16:17 I think rdiff-backup uses rsync to a certain degree, but then goes beyond that with extra backup options. 16:18 I just don't want to have to fix my backup directory afterwards. 16:18 oki am rebooting machine to see if, iam having same message..; i'll let you know, 16:19 I guess I could make a small test case scenario and give that a try on a small scale to be on the safe side. 16:19 rsync doesn't leave anything rsync specific in the dirs, so it'd be like just copping /home to the backup dir, and starting with rdiff-backup from scratch 16:19 but without having to do the actual copy of course 16:19 right, but rdiff-backup copies everything over too, and then somehow time stamps stuff and changes made too. 16:19 so I figure it will be a little faster the first time around, in that rdiff won't have to copy everything, as rsync has alread done that. 16:20 I guess test it and see, but I would think it'd be fine as long as you don't use rsync once you start with rdiff 16:21 wow, rdiff didn't like that, failed with fatal error! 16:21 I guess it really just wants to use diffs then 16:22 http://paste.ubuntu.com/586918/   that is the error I had, I first ran rsync on a small directory to test, then rdiff and it didn't like it 16:23 I can force it, but I will try that with the test first. 16:23 thre's problem, i can not install anything 16:24 James147>are you there? 16:26 ua: same error? 16:26 E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. 16:27 ahh, that is what I wanted to know, rdiff when run with force deletes any files that are not currently in the directory, that is dangerous for my backup since I have deleted things on my desktop I don't have room for knowing I have a backup copy 16:27 ua: ^^ try what it said 16:27 it is essentially the same as running rsync --delete source dest 16:27 i am testing 16:28 kay i need to uninstall open java and install sun java? and someone told me to do this 16:30 sudo apt-get remove OpenJDK-6-jre && sudo bash -c "deb http://archive.canonical.com lucid partner >> /etc/apt/sources.list" && sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre 16:30 but it doesnt work 16:30 naomi_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. 16:30 James147>it seems installed but i can not see the program when i am searching for 16:31 naomi_: ^^ package names are lower case, and installing the sun version will remove the open version so you dont really need to remove it first 16:31 yeah i tried it again in lower case, didn't work. 16:32 i changed the JDK 16:32 Does anyone know how to use a .cbr file? Better question: does anyone know of a good program that will open .cbr files? 16:32 naomi_: what error> 16:32 ua: which program are you triyng to install? 16:33 E: Couldn't find package Openjdk-6-jre 16:33 naomi_: ^^ thats a upper case O ... but just ignroe that step... installing the sun version wil remove the open version anyway 16:34 nvm, found something on google... here's hoping it actually effing works this time... 16:34 umm. a load of things popped up. the last thing was 16:36 bash: deb: command not found 16:36 and then i tried java -version and it still says open 16:36 James147>filelight 16:40 ua: what happens if you try to run it in a terminal? 16:40 i was told to 16:42 uncomment "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner" in /etc/apt/sources.list, then run apt-get update 16:42 what does that mean. >_> 16:42 i don't even know what etc/apt/sources is 16:42 /etc/apt/sources.list is a text file 16:43 it lists servers on the internet from which you can install software and updates 16:43 there is a line like the one you quoted that starts with a # 16:43 the # makes it a comment so that the software doesn't read it, but if you remove the #, it becomes active 16:43 so you just need to edit that file and backspace out the # on that line.  you can do that with "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" 16:44 after that, you'd reload the list of what's available on the active servers with "sudo apt-get update" and then you can use it 16:44 naomi_: ^ 16:44 the installation  seems working, and at the end i closed the message for licence ,  now i am searching for program , it doesnt exist!!! 16:45 ua: message for license? 16:46 gui update works at the same time, i think that's why i could not install anything...it said 10 update..but i could not install it 16:46 ua: did the command line thing show you a red & blue thing with the license? if so, you probably needed to scroll down and hit enter or spacebar on the [OK] or [Accept] or whatever it is to finish the install. by just hitting hte X you once again interrupted the installation 16:48 now i am trying to install it again, and it guives the same error as before 16:48 ua: filelight does not need a licence 16:48 ok, weird stuff going on with my desktop, I NEVER get an I/O error with rsync backup, and got that error, so I rebooted, computer did some weird thing, where it hung on boot?  I left and came back to a black screen???  rebooted, and it booted normally,  Any ideas? 16:48 shane4ubuntu: out of disk space? 16:49 meganerd: no, I deleted a bunch of my files yesterday 16:49 I have about 30GB free now. 16:49 2.6G free on / and 42G free on /home  separate partitions 16:49 sorry, i don't know what is it then, i've had blue page, i scrolled down till the en and i then i've closed terminal 16:50 like licence 16:50 ua: do the dpkg --configure -a thing agian, and this time let the install actually finish 16:50 shane4ubuntu: I/O errors are usually bad when you are trying to write to disk.  Maybe try booting from a rescue disk and run fsck 16:50 meganerd: right, that is what I thought, could it be my hdd is failing? 16:50 I noticed lately the sources.list isn't auto- edited to reflect changes when done so from the cli or a package manager 16:50 ua: the blue thing is for any sort of configuration question. you have to answer it for th einstall to finish. the blue will be gone when the install is done 16:51 shane4ubuntu: possibly 16:51 and which hdd?  backup or bootup disk? 16:51 dpkg: status database area is locked by another process 16:51 shane4ubuntu: if you feel adventurous you could get to know the smartctl utility 16:51 ua: do you stil have the gui updater open? 16:51 BluesKaj: do they edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* maybe? i know thats how add-apt-repository works 16:51 meganerd: mine has that, I have a gigabyte mobo and I remember seeing that somewhere 16:52 meganerd: though I know nothing about it. 16:52 guiKpackageKit is running automaticly, cause there are 10 update, that's why i  am having this message i think 16:52 shane4ubuntu: it is usually installed by default.  As long as your BIOS has it enabled there are some extended tests you can run 16:52 meganerd: oooh, you mean a linux app?  the smartctl utitily? 16:53 maco, yeah, but why the change , I recall the changes used work in just the soures.list...seems like duplication to me 16:53 shane4ubuntu: smartctl is one of those CLI that looks daunting at first, but has decent documentation.  It is not a requirement that you use it, but can be handy 16:53 BluesKaj: i dont remember add-at-repository ever doing it outside that dir. its easy to just rm the file with the ppa's name 16:53 shane4ubuntu: yup 16:53 ua: close it? 16:54 this is strange 16:54 ok 16:54 meganerd: installing now, there is a gui one too. :)  I don't mind cli though. 16:54 i did 16:54 shane4ubuntu: I did not know about the GUI front end, learn something new every day 16:54 I did a quick search and it popped up, I think I'll start with gui 16:55 ua: while you are waiting, open up a new terminal, then paste in everything between the quotes "du -Pacmx . --max-depth=1 |sort -g"\ 16:55 maco>the big problem i had is to clean partition home 16:55 i don't know how 16:56 i mean clean unused files in /home 16:56 meganerd>sorry i didn't understand 16:57 you mean i've just to type in terminal "du -Pacmx . --max-depth=1 |sort -g"\" do you? 16:57 ua: everything between the " marks 16:58 ua: du -Pacmx . --max-depth=1 |sort -g 16:58 ok 16:58 meganerd: wow, gsmartcontrol is quite nice, seems as though all is A-Ok. 16:58 do i do with root? 16:59 meganerd>this is the result= http://paste.ubuntu.com/586936/ 17:01 i 've to go, i come back 17:02 ua: so this list displays the usage of each folder in Megabytes, then sorts that list so that the largest folders on the bottom 17:02 ua: your .Virtualbox folder is the culprit 17:02 what 17:03 what do you mean? 17:03 12 gigs of space are used by your ~/.Virtualbox folder 17:03 ua type the first few letters of mega and hit tab, it should complete his nick 17:03 ua: that is where all your space went on your home partition 17:03 do you mean that Virtualbox is the big foulder? 17:04 ua: yes 17:04 is 11416Bytes= 11,41Go? 17:04 ua: the command I had you run uses megabytes 17:05 or 11416 is MB? 17:05 ok 17:05 so how can i do to delete it? 17:06 ua: I forced du to use megabytes to make it easier to sort 17:06 ua: well, you could do a rm .-fr ~/.Virtualbox 17:06 yes i see so hwo can i enter in to delete some files ? 17:06 ^^ that will delete your vms 17:07 ua: but that would delete the folder and all of the VMs inside of it 17:07 ok 17:07 oh no 17:07 ua: you could cd into that folder and run that command again to see which VMs are using your space 17:07 just want to see and delete all what i want 17:07 ok 17:07 ua: you should really consider using a bigger and faster drive for this anyway 17:07 thank you very mutch 17:07 thank you for helping 17:08 i've to go , i am at work 17:08 ua: np 17:08 see you 17:08 meganerd: I take that back, 1 disk with pre-failure warnings! 17:10 shane4ubuntu: yikes, time to backup and get a new drive 17:10 meganerd: I have 3 drives in my box, and a backup usb drive. problem is all of them are old. :) 17:11 time to relocate data in case of failure. 17:11 meganerd: what does this mean:  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   099   099   036    Pre-fail  Always       -       58        it is pink in the gui while everything else is white, I have several pre-fail things, but only this one is pink. 17:19 !screenshot 17:20 Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it. 17:20 meganerd: here is a better veiw of it:  http://imagebin.org/145526 17:22 james? 17:25 i installed sun version of java but when i do "version -java" in terminal it tells me i have open java. and someone told me to go to synaptic and uninstall "icedtea" plugin? 17:26 http://imagebin.org/145527 is what it looks like. 17:26 no idea what to do. 17:26 naomi_: log out and back in 17:26 okie. 17:27 === sqwertle is now known as buov nope still says open java. i was told to go search "icedtea" and uninstall that.. but i have no idea how to. 17:29 OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.9.7) (6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1~10.04.1) 17:30 is the output. 17:30 naomi_: run "sudo update-alternatives --config java" 17:30 shane4ubuntu: I did some googling, seems that there are some mixed opinions about how serious this error is 17:30 meganerdca: hmm, I don't really know anything about it, but all my drives report pre-failure, I don't think it is a real deal until it is pink 17:31 but I don't know either. 17:31 k it says there's 2 choices for the alternative java. 63 is the number for the sun java, i type that in yes? 17:31 === sayakb_ is now known as sayakb choise the sun java one 17:32 k thanks. 17:32 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07) 17:33 is the output now, is that right? 17:33 shane4ubuntu: consider running the tests from the test tab 17:33 meganerdca: yeah, I did the test, and nothing turned up, it said all was good. odd, I guess no real threat for the time being, 17:34 meganerdca: on the other hand seems as though when I run rsync with dryrun and delete I keep getting IO error 17:34 shane4ubuntu: when you get some time, run the extended test 17:34 meganerdca: yeah, that will have to be later, to really check out the disk. 17:34 naomi_: now check your program see if it behaves its self 17:35 shane4ubuntu: good luck. 17:38 meganerdca: thanks for the info! 17:38 hello, is there any way to emulate a "right-click"?  My trackpad on my laptop only detects a single mouse button, unfortunately 17:40 james it still won't close the window or the pm window. my friend said it's something with the coding on java.. but i have no idea. 17:41 is there anything you can think of to fix it? 17:41 zdubdub: Try shift-f10 17:42 thank you very much! 17:42 genii-around, cheers 17:42 === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer naomi_: I would agree with your friend... a poorly written java app (and not the only one :p) 17:47 lol. 17:47 so there's no way to fix it? 17:47 naomi_: does it work properly on another computer or OS? 17:50 yeah it works fine on any other os besides windows. my friend just said it's poor coding.. and windows made up for a lot of faults. 17:50 or something. 17:50 i mean besides linux^^^ 17:50 well its not working for me on linux. i dunno if it--- maybe one of you could try it? see if it works for you? 17:51 if you wouldn't mind. 17:51 which program? 17:51 (link would be helpful) ^^ 17:52 hey people. can anyone help mee find the name of the program that executes the "additional driver"?  sotha ti can call the program fromcommand line 17:53 hey people. can anyone help mee find the name of the program that executes the "additional driver"?  so that i can call the program from command line? 17:54 Shogoot: jockey-kde ? 17:58 thanks 18:00 im hitting the icon but it wontexecute 18:00 gonnatry the command line 18:00 hello are you there? 18:01 woweee.... my X process is using 632M RES... is there a new big memory leak floating around in maverick? 18:07 what's is the commande tu purge all ./.VirtualBox,? thank you 18:09 Hi , im having some bars appearing on the KDE Menu 18:09 could someone have a look ? 18:09 ua: "rm -rf ~/.VirtualBox", but make sure your type it correctly so u don't erase other stuff... 18:09 http://img269.imageshack.us/i/snapshot1bn.png/ 18:10 Im having issues with bars appearing on the KDE Menu 18:11 thank you , what do you , i don't erase another stuff? 18:13 ua: because rm-rf is a dangerous command 18:13 ua: if you type the wrong folder, or add spaces (as in "/ something" instead of "/something"), you basically erase your whole filesystem... 18:15 ok thank you, but why i could not do it with "sudo apt-get remove --purge virtualbox" yes it didn't work 18:15 ua: that I don't know. maybe it leaves your user data (vm) behind, and only uninstalls the application. 18:15 ashmew2: What drivername does: sudo lshw -C video| grep config   report? 18:16 === stephdg_ is now known as stephdg === Guest63318 is now known as seawolf ua : what error were u getting when trying to purge ? 18:17 genii-around: ur using the video parameter , so im pretty sure it would list your video driver 18:18 genii-around: if i understand you correctly 18:18 ua: or maybe you installed virtualbox-ose or some other package name other than plain virtualbox? 18:18 ashmew2:  Yes. eg: what video driver is being used to render the funny bars on your menu? 18:19 ok thank's , i need to move all iso file so can you tell me if i can move ./file.vdi into another partition, is it possible,?withoute increase home partition,  cause i had not lot of space inside 18:19 configuration: driver=i915 latency=0 18:19 genii-around: sorry i misunderstood , im on the default intel driver 18:19 gnome is working wonderfully...I just saw these bars yesterday for the first time at the startup splash 18:19 yes i installed virtualbox-ose 18:19 those went away but now , the KDE menu ones are still having funny bars 18:20 genii-around : http://img269.imageshack.us/f/snapshot1bn.png/ 18:20 ua: you can probably move the disk image and then point the vm to it or create a new vm that boots from it... you'll have to play around with virtualbox for that 18:20 i915 driver is in use 18:20 ok, but when i create a new VM that's from it....it will installl ./.VBox in home partition by default  is it right? 18:24 cause if it is  i'll have same problem 18:25 are you agree with me? 18:27 ua: when you create a vm, I think you can browse for existing disks rather than create a new one 18:28 amichair>did you have test of that? 18:30 ua: nope. It's just what I think I remember. As I said, you'll have to play around with virtualbox to try. 18:31 amichair>ok , but do you think that it will work in win partitions? i mean ntfs or fat? 18:33 ua: I don't see why that should make a difference 18:34 amichair>ok , but do you think that it will work with ubuntu from win partitions? i mean ntfs or fat? 18:34 as long as the host OS can read the filesystem, it should work (ubuntu and windows can both work with ntfs) 18:35 cause i wonder ubuntu or kubuntu will works beter from from linux partitions as ext3, ext4...than ntfs or fat, do you? 18:37 I don't know the stats on that 18:38 but it also depends on what you're going to be doing in the vm. the disk access overhead difference might be insignificant in any case. 18:38 amichair> i need to make litle  network with Vbox , 18:40 ua: I say, just try it, and it'll be ok :-) 18:40 i tested that in debian it didn't work, maybe  there's another copy in ./home? don't know 18:41 amichair>i'll try a new one 18:41 tested what? what exactly didn't work? 18:41 Vbox 18:42 ugy 18:43 amichair>but i think there is copy in ./home and systeme  said that's full 18:43 amichair>anyway, i'll test as you told, thank you very mutch 18:44 ua: good luck! 18:45 can you remeber me the comand to delete VBOX please? 18:45 yes this one "rm -rf ~/.VirtualBox 18:46 " 18:46 ok i found it 18:47 thank yoy 18:47 what mean fr? 18:47 rf 18:47 ua: r is recursive, f is force (i.e. don't ask confirmation for each file). run "man rm" for details... 18:49 thank you very mutch, good continuation 18:49 amichair>thank you again master 18:50 nah, I'm a noob myself 18:50 only discovered swappiness yesterday :-) 18:50 have good evening 18:51 bye 18:51 you too! 18:51 Why can't I do a euro sign or ctrl alt my vowels to put an accent on them? .-. 18:53 naomi_:  In System Settings..Input Devices...Keyboard..Advanced tab  Check off  "Configure Keyboard options"   And then select a key or key combination to be the "Compose" key. Then when you want accents or umlauts etc you use the compose key and a combination of two characters to make the accents. There is a table of what keys produce what special characters here: http://www.astro.ufl.edu/it/docs/intl-keyboard.html 19:29 does anyone know why Kubuntu moved from aptitude to apt-get? 19:29 genii i dont even know how to get to system settings. >.> 19:32 katsrc: they didnt move from one to the other, ubuntu has always favoured apt-get ^^ they just removed aptitude from the installation disk to save on space with the argument that there is no need for two packagemanagment software 19:32 ^^ you can install it with "sudo apt-get install aptitude" :) 19:32 James147: i was under the impression to use aptitude to avoid "meta package issue" 19:33 naomi_: alt+f2: type "System settings" press enter :) or menu > system settings 19:33 that was the recommended route on Ubuntu wikis also 19:33 what issue? 19:33 James147: that seems like a plausible reason to remove it 19:34 katsrc: ^^ debian has gone to faviour aptitude ... 19:34 James147: dependency 19:34 James147: thanks for the info. 19:35 Error stating file '/home/naomi/System settings': No such file or directory 19:35 genii. ^ 19:35 >.> 19:35 im a complete noob at this stuff. 19:36 naomi_: did you type it without the quotes? 19:36 of course. 19:36 naomi_: just:  systemsettings          like that, all one word lowercase without spaces 19:37 still says no file found. :| 19:38 * James147 wonders why "system settings" dident work ^^ always has for him 19:38 Error stating file '/home/naomi/systemsettings': No such file or directory 19:38 :( 19:39 and i dont know how to get to it from the menu. 19:39 * genii-around ponders the odd error message 19:39 linux is cool 19:39 *kubuntu 19:39 naomi_: I use the "classic" menu, from there it's in Settings..System Settings 19:40 what is the classic menu?! 19:40 oh im not even on kubuntu. 19:40 naomi_: If you right-click on the K you can choose classic or new style 19:40 lol. :| 19:40 how could i know which type of flashplayer installer is required for kubuntu 19:40 oborozukiyo: normally best to install it from the repos ^^ installing "kubuntu-restricted-extras" should install flash 19:41 === candy is now known as Guest95124 wow cool 19:42 thanx 19:42 im not used to  this 19:42 qwe 19:54 Any idea why qt apps could use qtcurve in KDE? 20:05 kkszysiu: the style is set to qtcurce? 20:08 *qtcurve 20:08 Islington: yeap 20:09 so that is why they are using qtcurve 20:09 did they stop selling KDE merchandise at the Ubuntu shop? 20:12 Kubuntu* 20:12 Hi there, I'm new to (k)ubuntu (coming from openSUSE) and I've some questions ... 20:23 Whenever I change my screen resolution it's resetet on the next boot, this is very unpleasent since it's something 2xxxX1538 (way to high for my 19" monitor) 20:24 !resolution 20:25 The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution 20:25 see the bit on there about making it permanent in kdm 20:25 hey guys 20:25 need help with the bluetooth 20:26 may I ask why is this? In openSUSE I changed it once and then it would stick, both use KDE ... 20:26 the adapter is not found in 10.10 kubuntu my system is dell studio 1536 20:26 === marco is now known as Guest24412 hey guys http://pastie.org/1732323 20:34 i did lsusb and this is the result 20:34 i have a finger print , usb tv box and a built in bluetooth 20:35 all of them r shown in the 'lsusb' but none of them work ! 20:35 *help* 20:35 dell_: Looks like a known bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/548720 20:38 Ubuntu bug 548720 in bluez (Ubuntu) "BCM2046 Bluetooth not working" [Undecided,Confirmed] 20:38 but my bluetooth worked fine with ubuntu 10.10 20:39 i just switched to kubuntu 20:39 and now it aint 20:39 weired ?.... My SD cards for the digital camera....2 cards....1 will work under windows and linux....and the other only on the windows pc....any ideas why 20:39 can't umount my usb disk?? 20:40 I have closed about every window I had open to remove any chance of something that was accessing it, and still it will not unmount? 20:40 umount: /media/81b13ef5-b8d8-41ce-8db7-b7b8c9182e54: device is busy.   <-  busy what is it doing???? 20:41 shane4ubuntu: any terminals currently inside it? 20:41 no, I closed all of them, done that a time or two before. :) 20:42 dell_: On another site, a user says if in Windows the device was turned off, then the computer boots to linux, linux cannot turn the adapter back on. 20:42 ahaaa 20:42 leme try check it then 20:43 so how can I tell what is accessing the disk?  or what is using it? 20:43 and how about the finger print reader and usb tv box 20:43 u think it will work ? 20:43 Vsem privet, u menya problema s x64 kubuntu 20:44 shane4ubuntu: lsof | grep /dev/devicename  or lsof | grep /media/mountpoint 20:45 dell_: I found for fingerprint readers most work OK 20:45 so wat does it mean when the lsusb displays my devices 20:46 the kernel recognizes them ? 20:46 and that i just get a software for them ? 20:46 Pici: thanks!  I tried fuser -m /dev/sdc1 and got 16607c ?? 20:46 lsof doesn't show anything with the grep devicename, let me try again 20:47 dell_: lsusb just shows what the system can see is physically on there. Whether drivers exist is another matter. 20:47 Pici: krusader was apparently hung up somewhere and was the culprit, thanks! 20:48 timer? 20:58 oops, is there a timer thing so I can set it for 30 min or something and an alarm sounds? 20:58 ............... 21:00 shane4ubuntu: kteatime perhaps 21:01 === dave is now known as Guest61541 hi wie wird im Kubuntu die Konsolenschrift auf den alten Standard (grosse Zeichen) umgestellt? 21:05 !de | jstein 21:06 jstein: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. 21:06 hey i've been having java trouble. i have downloaded the JRE from kpackagekit but i can't run java programs like Runescape.com and other Jagex games. how do i fix the problem? 21:10 need help with Java 21:12 brambleclaw:  in browser, does  about:plugins          show java browser plugin? 21:14 let me check 21:14 PhilRod_: kteatime,  that is nice, 21:16 thanks 21:16 === |GuS| is now known as [GuS] is there a way to install the packages offered by fedora on kubuntu - e.g electronic lab or security lab ? 21:30 Hi folks.  I'm trying to install VMWare Workstation on Natty.  But the building of the kernel modules fails and, as I'm not a programmer, I don't know how to get around it.  The output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/587030/   Is this easy to get around?  Should I file a bug report? 21:32 Oops, I thought I was on the #ubuntu+1 channel. My bad. :-) 21:33 ok i was just on and was asking for help with java trouble and someone said to look in "about:plugins" i think. how do i do that? 21:38 brambleclaw: In the URL window of your browser to put the URL of   about:plugins 21:39 It will say then what web browser plugins you have installed 21:39 hi, how can i reconfigure the tty font on kubuntu? Its quite small now and i want the plain oldstyle font. (25x80 char?) 21:39 URL window? 21:39 how do i get to the URL window? 21:40 hello? 21:41 asimm: hi you are on air ;-) 21:42 hello; Who are you 21:42 !op 21:43 Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Hobbsee, Tm_T, Nalioth, Riddell, seth, imbrandon, gnomefreak, nixternal, ryanakca, mneptok, PriceChild, tsimpson, jussi, Pici, ikonia, genii, Mamarok, claydoh, maco, apachelogger, seele, Nightrose, JontheEnchidna, rgreening, or txwikinger 21:43 oops 21:43 * apachelogger blinks 21:43 asimm: Please don't do that :) 21:43 putting in     about:plugins   doesn't do anything 21:45 bye 21:47 genii-around: it didn't do anything 21:48 brambleclaw: Ideally something like this http://imagebin.org/145573 21:52 entering    about:plugins    does nothing 21:53 which download should i get from kpackagekit for java? 21:55 brambleclaw: icedtea6-plugin 21:57 thanks 21:57 that should fix my problems. thanks 21:58 brambleclaw: You may also want to install kubuntu-restricted-extras package, this will give you the Flash plugin and some other assorted stuff 22:00 cool thanks :) 22:01 genii. http://imagebin.org/145577 < does this mean i've blacklisted it? 22:06 naomi_: It means in the list of drivers not to load, yes 22:08 okie thanks. 22:08 === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer I'm trying to add a catagory to a kmymoney transaction but after adding it won't highlight the "Accept" button to save the edit.. Any hints/tips? 22:46 === mren is now known as mren|off === james is now known as Guest80813 hello 23:12 anyone tried to use spotlite instead of the recently deceased FTD? 23:14 === majidkhan is now known as _majid === majidkhan is now known as naturalpsychic digikam question, I tried to export to gallery2, doesn't work all google comes up with is like 5 year old info. 23:30 any ideas? 23:30 === e is now known as Zwulf === Shaun_ is now known as Shaun === killjoy is now known as killjoy_ no news on digikam and gallery2?  I was just trying it to see if it worked, thought it would be very handy 23:44 shane4ubuntu: probably better to speak to someone in the digikam project 23:48 Mase_wk: where do I find them?  I tried in #kde so far to no avail, no response. 23:49 i imagine they have details on the project website. 23:49 there is a digikam room!  :)  I'll check there, thanks. 23:49 Mase_wk: lol, I checked the Help -> about Digikam in digikam, and it gives me the irc room in there too!  I was only guessing when I tried their room. 23:51 ok 23:52 === naomi is now known as Guest11194 === Guest11194 is now known as naomi_ === naomi_ is now known as naomi__ === naomi__ is now known as naomi_ === naomi_ is now known as naomi__

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