=== Muzer is now known as MuzerAway [00:49] having a slight issue with Kate. How do I force it to not turn on syntax highlighting? the syntax highlighting for LISP would be fine if it highlighted the matching parentheses, but its not. How do I get it to stop switching the syntax highlighting or how do I get it to show matching parentheses like it does on "normal" mode? [00:50] Alonea: tools > highlighting .. [00:51] James147: I did, but it changed it back when I saved [00:52] James147: though it seems odd it doesn't show matching when on LISP mode seeing how its all parentheses. [01:01] I cant get my mic to work... what are some things i could install to get it to work? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [01:05] roxy: most likely you don't need to install anything to get it to work. It's usually a configuration issue, or in somecases the driver for the soundcard isn't fully implemented [01:06] roxy: start by checking the mixer settings [01:07] roxy: for me, getting rid of pulseaudio fixed my mic, but make sure its pulseaudio is the culprit, though its easy to reinstall if its not. [01:08] roxy: ^^ firstly though, make sure the capture devices arnt muted in lasamixer [01:08] alsamixer ^^ (run it in a terminal) [01:09] kk checking things and doing things let ya know in a bit :) [01:11] James147: ok in alsamixer there is no bar thing for the mic :-s [01:12] roxy: but is it muted? (also make sure your looking at the capture devices) [01:12] ^^ f4 to switch to capture [01:12] and f6 to change sound card if you have more then one [01:13] James147: I gots it and the mic option there was on 0 there [01:14] roxy: out of curiosity, is it a built in mic on a eee netbook or a regular plugin mic? if its USB, it can be finicky. [01:14] built in and my computer is a netbook [01:14] roxy: 0 means its on, MM means mute [01:15] what does it mean in playback option that it has no bar on it? [01:18] last time i got it to work was something i installed cant member(done it in terminal) but it brought up pluseaudio preferences and went to input devices and turned it on and the mic worked... [01:20] pavucontrol ? [01:28] >_> [01:31] James147: thankies that is it :) [01:39] Uhh. [01:40] naomi_: Do you have some Kubuntu related support question? [01:40] I have no idea what on earth i'm doing with half of this stuff. [01:42] naomi_: perhaps if you were able to phrase your goal in the form of a question, someone in the channel may be able to help you understand whatever your trying to do [01:42] naomi_: any spicific question you want us to help wih? [01:43] I'm new to the whole linx thing. I'm not sure how to do anything, regarding like downloading stuff. Or having to do commands and stuff in the terminal window. [01:43] linux.^ [01:44] naomi_: you dont really need to worry about doing anything in a terminal ^^ though it is useful to learn and a very powerful tool [01:45] i am new too, i like kpackagekit :D [01:45] naomi_: as for downloading things, what thigs? [01:45] kujules: yup, package managment software is one of the great features of linux :D [01:45] Hello guys. [01:46] no need of use commands, easiest way [01:46] kujules: ?? [01:46] i am talking of kpackagekit [01:47] kujules: yeah, most command line utils have nice gui alternitives :) [01:47] * James147 still finds it more effecient to use the terminal though... at elast most of the time :D [01:48] yes it is. I am sorry but, i press the S-Abf + R < my pc does not react [01:49] Abf? [01:49] S-Abf? [01:49] the terminal is for professional users [01:49] Yeah but for downloading things? [01:49] I had to download Konversation in the terminal window. >.> [01:49] S-Abf -> magic Sysrg key [01:49] Or install, whatever. [01:49] kujules: would say intermediate or greater, not neccessorly professional [01:50] naomi, i started to use kubuntu for nearly 2 weeks, and i give up to unterstand how to install things , because i have kpackagekit [01:50] naomi__: most programs can easaly be downloaded and install via a packagemanagment software, there is kpackagekit for the gui, or apt-get for the command line [01:51] kujules: ^^ that is how you install things :) [01:51] not really [01:51] for example i tried to install firefox [01:51] i search 2 days, no result! [01:51] i came here, read what ubotto gave [01:52] and i type that in terminal! wow, i have firefox :D [01:52] what is kpackagekit? [01:52] naomi__: kpackagekit is a software managment application ^^ it manages software :) basically it can download install update and remove packages (and packages can contain applications) [01:53] is that like ummm synaptic package manager or something? [01:53] i have that. [01:54] naomi__: yes, though synaptic is what the gnome desktop envrioment uses... [01:54] naomi__: so i have to ask, are you using kubuntu or ubuntu ? :) [01:54] thats what i have. >.> [01:54] i have no idea lol. [01:54] i searched "irc clients for linux" and it gave me this. [01:54] ubuntu i think? [01:55] ermm. 10.04? [01:55] naomi__: both kubuntu and ubuntu share the same versioning ^^ :) [01:55] so how does this synaptic thing work? [01:55] how does answering noob's questions all day not get frustrating. :P [01:56] naomi__: you might want to ask that in #ubuntu they will better deal with gnome related questions [01:56] okie thanks. [02:00] hey everyone, just a quick question..is there a keyboard shortcut for locking + unlocking widgets? or where shoult I be looking to set/change this? under global, standard or custom keyboard shortcuts? === root is now known as Guest95838 === dave is now known as bobthebuilder [03:23] hi all, newbie here. I was wondering can I get skype for kubuntu? I have looked in the repositories but there are just add-ons? [03:24] bobthebuilder: http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/ [03:24] ^^ not that it ever updates [03:25] it never updates? [03:26] they have prity much abandoned sykepe for linux without actually say as much ^^ its been taged beta 2 for years now :p [03:26] lol..really? Oh my, so long as it works I guess? [03:27] it works ^^ [03:27] jut far behind in features :( [03:29] yer, its a shame but still, if it can used on voip and sharing files then I'm happy at that :) [03:30] well, thank you James147 I will go and see if all is well now it's installed....thanx again. [03:37] <_sophia> hai [03:37] <_sophia> i'm looking at files from my Windows partition [03:37] <_sophia> what i want to do is put them on the desktop [03:37] <_sophia> not on the little specialised desktop, on the general one [03:37] <_sophia> how do i do so? [03:38] <_sophia> nvm ^_^ [03:49] <_sophia> okay, totally have a questio [03:50] <_sophia> i want to make one of those self-contained desktops to put pdfs and a few other things in? how to do so such that it is in the actual folder on the desktop, not merely on the desktop on the first layer [03:56] _sophia: you talking about the folder view? === AndrewMC` is now known as Guest13774 === seawolf is now known as Guest63318 === iflema is now known as Guest40902 === Guest40902 is now known as iflema [04:24] <_sophia> now how do i place things i have on the desktop, into the folder view? ;d [04:25] _sophia: you cant... since the things on the desktop are widgets, and the filder view wants files or folders (you can find the orignal files and place them in the folder however) [04:26] <_sophia> o_O [04:26] <_sophia> i thought the things on the desktop are icons [04:26] and icons are widgets :) at least on the desktop and panel [04:26] if you drag a file to the desktop plasma creates an icon that points to that file ^^ [04:27] _sophia: this might be intresting: http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma [04:29] <_sophia> ty, will look at that in a bit, playing chess right now >.> [04:29] ^^ although its abit dated now :p [04:43] hellos [04:44] so i did a fresh install of kubuntu today. did the update, and now my standard user is a bit messed up [04:44] CartoonCat: can you provide us with some more information so that we can help you. [04:45] was fine before the update. now, when i try to install from a .deb, give the password, it /looks/ like it says 'your user is not in the sudoers' but it flashes /very/ fast [04:45] Mase_wk: working on it, sorry slow typing [04:46] at the same time, konsole is not acting right, like all my bash settings are, wrong or gone. (no tab, no colors, etc) [04:47] CartoonCat: so if you move to a VT and type sudo bash does it work as expected ? [04:47] i will see [04:48] s/sudo bash/sudo -i/ [04:48] :) [04:48] Mase_wk: ah that /does/ say im not in the sudoers [04:48] ok, and you were previously ? [04:48] CartoonCat: what does "groups" say? [04:49] Mase_wk: Yes, or at least i assume so since these things were working before the upgrade [04:49] James147: good call, only my own group [04:49] i know that isnt right at all [04:50] CartoonCat: you need to be in the admin group to have sudo rights [04:50] and you're logging in as the same user as you were before ? [04:50] Mase_wk: yessir [04:50] CartoonCat: reboot to recovery mode and add yourself to the group [04:50] and the upgrade finished successfully ? [04:50] I /can/ su to root still [04:50] Mase_wk: it said so, piped up said /reboot was needed ot finish/ did so, and blamo [04:50] ^^ you should never beable to su to root :p [04:51] hmm ok interesting. not something i've ever experienced [04:51] James147: yea i know, one of kubs slight, failings [04:51] a quick setting of root pass and its better [04:51] CartoonCat: its not a failing ^^ it to stop attacks agienst week root passwords [04:51] with sudo you shouldnt need the root password [04:52] James147: I know, thats why I set root pass to a variant of my WPA passwords =) [04:52] * James147 thinks thats even worst O-o [04:53] really? interesting. id liek to hear why [04:53] You can brute a WPA with some tricks [04:53] wpa keys are sharable ^^ and that [04:54] it might be a stretch to think that someone would translate that to your machine but it's not that far a stretch [04:54] ok, you didnt read it the way i meant it. it /is not/ a wpa key that is used, i use the wpa key algo to genrate a hex (and use the first 30 chars of it) [04:54] CartoonCat: anything important should get it's own unique password and a long one at that [04:54] size does matter :) [04:55] but then i have to ask why root even needs a password when you have sudo ^^ [04:56] James147: im old school, root always had a pw and no user had sudo rights [04:56] CartoonCat: then remove sudo ^^ no point in having two secutiry holes [04:57] James147: do you really think a strong root password is a security hole? [04:58] CartoonCat: any password is more of a hole then a disabled account ^^ [04:59] James147: ok ill grant that. ill rephrase. do you really think that a 30 char, mixed case/let/num password is burtable whith in a reasonable time frame ? [05:00] ^^ and you remember that password with out it being writed down? [05:01] ir's basically about layering your system [05:01] Nope, but it also is not stored in one palce whole, its in 4 parts in a list of a few dozen other, same length char groups [05:02] each layer of security just makes it less likely that anyone motivated enough will be able to get access to your machine in the time frame that is suitable for them [05:02] ^^ seems more effort then not having a password [05:02] James147: ha ha when you change your arguement to being too much effort I think you may be losing ground :) [05:03] James147: your likely right. ill look at moving past it. [05:03] Daskreech: I mean, you have a password on your root for convience (if you get lock out of sudo?) but if you have to find 4 parts of the password to gain access again, you may as well boot to recovery mode [05:04] Remove recovery mode!!! [05:04] In any case won't recovery mode ask for the password now that root has one? [05:04] Daskreech: then you can always boot a live cd for such times [05:04] you could always have myfavouriteversetoasongthatiknowreallywell [05:04] hahah, boot what ? [05:04] which would still be very difficult to brute force [05:05] no optical, no usb boot options [05:05] Mase_wk: Written in l33t then converted to chinese :) [05:05] CartoonCat: recovery mode ^^ should drop you to a root prompt... not sure if it asks for a password if you set one though [05:05] How'd you get kubuntu on there? [05:05] James147: yea i know rec mode is there, i had not got ot killing it yet [05:06] Daskreech: good thing ubuntu has a utf8 term by default :) [05:06] Daskreech: bios password, its one of the other groups on the list [05:06] * Mase_wk wonders what l33t is in chinese :) [05:06] as a point, that part list makes up pretty much all my passwords everywhere, but with any idea how to combine them, your going to be working for a while [05:07] wth, missed the 4 [05:08] CartoonCat: bios pass is only as secure as the lock on the box ^^ which most people dont have [05:08] since all you need to do is remove the battery to reset the bios :p [05:09] James147: na that doesnt work on most laptops [05:09] but unless you in a very untrusting envrioment you dont need to worry about phycial access to th comp ^^ [05:10] well, its a laptop [05:10] \it\ goes to the untrusting environs willingly [05:13] CartoonCat: is the drive encrypted? [05:14] James147: has a password but no, ive not done full hd enc [05:14] i know, i got lazy there === |GuS| is now known as [GuS] [05:29] DarthFrog: Bodhi === Guest36926 is now known as IdleOne [06:21] wer kennt sich mit bion einstellungen aus? Guten morgen. [06:21] bios [06:27] wer kennt sich mit bion einstellungen aus? Guten morgen. [06:27] bios [06:28] uwe: please don't double post, and BIOS is not really kubuntu related [07:15] <_sophia> if i have an icon on my desktop, how do i figure out where the icon points? [07:30] <_sophia> o.o? [07:58] <_human_blip_> system-config-printer-kde crashes for me since upgrade to 4.6.1 via kubuntu backports ppa. crash still happens after upgrade to natty. details here: http://paste.kde.org/8411/ [07:59] <_human_blip_> any ideas how to track it down? [08:05] _human_blip_: you can install the debug symbols and get the backtrace === james is now known as Guest4692 [08:12] hallo [08:15] <_human_blip_> Mase_wk: is there an associated dbg package? it is python. there is already a backtrace here: http://paste.kde.org/8411/ === mirco__ is now known as mirco [08:17] How do I enable Desktop Effects when the options are all grayed out? [08:18] Like the "Enable desktop effects" [08:18] ? [08:18] afaik if that's grayed out it means that your driver does not support desktop effects [08:19] susunberg: http://imagebin.org/145457 [08:19] I had them before on KDE but had to reinstall kubuntu-desktop. [08:20] On GNOME Compiz still works dreamily. [08:22] I'm trying to like KDE, but it's just one thing after another, and it keeps pushing me back to cooperative Gnome [08:22] don't know sorry. What i might do is to check .xsession-errors for some hints what is going on wrong [08:23] another thing might be google for "kde" + "desktop effects" + "technical issues" + "your display driver" if you haven't done that yet .. [08:23] Starminn: I suspect your display driver is unsupported by KWin effects [08:23] Tm_T: They worked before. [08:24] susundberh: Alright. [08:24] Starminn: with Kwin? what have you upgraded since? [08:24] susundberg: Display driver == graphics driver? [08:24] ye [08:25] Tm_T: I installed kubuntu-desktop, and enabled Desktop effects. Then KDE decided to go postal on itself and nearly uninstalled everything KDE-based. (Been using it for 2 days) Now this time, Effects won't work. [08:25] Everything is the same as it was last time around. [08:28] hmm, sounds strange [08:29] Tm_T: I agree. Everytime I try Kubuntu this stuff happens. I want to like it but it's hard when nothing wants ot work. [08:30] By the way, I assume http://imagebin.org/145458 it's ATI Radeon as my graphics driver? [08:31] Yeah, that's it. (Sorry, used to Terminal, not-so-much GUIs for this stuff) === thomi_ is now known as thomi [08:35] Got it, guys. I'll post a link. [08:36] Tm_T susundberg: http://matthieu.yiptong.ca/2010/09/28/enable-desktop-effects-in-kubuntu-10-10-using-radeon-driver/ (Thank you for the beautiful search query suggestion, by the way, susund.) [08:36] Just screw the GUI and manually configure it. *shrug* Works for me. [08:36] Thanks, both of you. [08:37] Starminn: good you found the solution [08:37] Starminn: I use opensource driver so all works just fine [08:37] s/so/and/ [08:38] Tm_T: 6-year-old computer, shipped with Windows XP, never really knew much about Linux at the time, and I've only been running Linux for about 2 months now. It's a very customizable box, though, so I'll probably gradually add on and I intend to make it as open as possible. [08:39] Starminn: you are apparently using opensource drivers too, weird that it didn't accept them rightaway === javalogger is now known as apachelogger [08:40] Tm_T: Ah. Goody, then. And yes, I'm not quite sure. *shrug* [08:41] Tm_T: Any ideas on why it says it couldn't enable Blur or Explosion when clearly Explosion is working (not sure what blur does, btu it had the same message last time too) [08:43] Starminn: something is gone a mess in your system [08:43] :( [08:52] Starminn: or so it sounds, hmmm, possibly worth checking if all what kubuntu-desktop should bring is actually installed [08:53] Tm_T: I've isntalled from the kubuntu-desktop package twice in the last two days. Certainly the meta package is correct. [08:53] Tm_T: I did save a list the first time, though, of everything it bring's supposed ot bring in case I have to uninstall it. [08:53] Tm_T: It's so long, though... If you wanted to read through it sure but it's very lengthy. [08:54] Starminn: sorry, have no time to check [08:54] Tm_T: Oh, no, I wasn't expecting you to check lol [08:55] Tm_T: Is there anything that could give me transparent titlebars? [09:03] Starminn: fake, yes, ummm... [09:05] Starminn: cannot remember the name of the windeco that provided fake transparency, was it "Crystal" ? [09:07] Starminn: yup, Crystal [09:07] Yeah, that's it [09:08] "Cyrstal is the default decorator since 6.6"? [09:09] Oh, nevermind, I see now. === sre-su_ is now known as sre-su [09:17] Hi, I'm having some graphic glitches in plasma: http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1117/plasmabug.png They told me in #kde that it's probably a video driver bug. Can someone help? [09:19] I'm using the radeon driver btw [09:26] spirov92: hi, how much mem your graphics card has? [09:26] about 500 mb, I think [09:26] so it's not that === naturalpsychic is now known as majidkhan [11:17] hey im trying to install nvidia driver i got this error message" ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the package 'binutils' installed. If you do have binutils installed, then please check that `ld` is in your PATH. [11:18] xD [11:19] have you tried turning it off and on again? @tweeterweb_ (ok,just joking) [11:19] have u installed the package? [11:20] redjhawk:gone [11:20] xD [11:20] cant install it just show the error mesage [11:20] oh [11:20] not :D [11:20] tweeterweb_: ok lets see which package oyu have to install [11:21] redhawk: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.44.run [11:22] is the propietary drivers, i guess [11:22] yes they are [11:22] yes [11:22] why don't you use the package provided by kubuntu? [11:22] how? [11:22] run jockey [11:22] it will help you to install the driver [11:23] jockes is installed by default [11:23] jockey [11:23] wait [11:23] jockey-kde actually [11:25] tweeterweb_: look at this http://wstaw.org/m/2011/03/29/plasma_howto-throw-ball_.gif [11:25] tweeterweb_: i have not nvidia [11:25] but you can activate that using the same [11:25] operations [11:27] mm it doesnt look well [11:27] anywya the program is jockey-kde [11:28] asraniel: and how aboit if he just installs binutils-dev and run that script again? will it work? [11:31] i use ubuntu @ work and debian @ home, so i have no clue of this new (and useful) tools :) [11:32] redjhawl: im done apt-get install binutils then install nvidia driver,i got this ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing. For further details, [11:33] please see the section INSTALLING THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver [11:33] download page at www.nvidia.com. [11:33] tweeterweb_: use jockey.kde [11:33] . [11:34] tweeterweb_: which is your language? [11:34] peace-:english [11:34] so .. [11:35] so why you ddind't use jockey-kde? [11:35] peace-:im done using jockey-kde it says theres no proprietary driver installed [11:35] screenshot please [11:36] of jockey-kde [11:37] tweeterweb_: if you want to run that script ,then, i guess, you should run that script from a real console. control+alt+F1, then user & passworkd. Then sudo invoke-rc.d kdm and finally, run that script.... [11:37] redjhawk: sure, but he will run into trouble everytime the kernel updates [11:38] +1 asraniel [11:38] +1 :P [11:39] caffe time [11:39] bye bye and good day from italy [11:39] peace-: additional drivers no proprietary drivers are in use on this system [11:42] all [11:43] hey :) [11:43] have a problem since upgrade to 10.10.. microphone won't work.. [11:43] if i boot from a ubuntu live-cd 10.10, microphone work.. [11:44] i have a 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller [11:45] aplay -l: Intel [HDA Intel], Gerät 0: VT1708S Analog [VT1708S Analog] === coaboa_ is now known as coaboa [12:01] how to exit x server? [12:03] logout [12:04] though it will start again -- you can shutdown it by logging in on terminal (ctrl + alt + f1) and running 'sudo service kdm stop' === Guest13774 is now known as AndrewMC === mig is now known as Guest27297 [13:14] I'm seeing a weird rendering bug in plasma: http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1117/plasmabug.png anyone know how to fix this? [14:02] Hiyas === mren|off is now known as mren === apachelogger is now known as thresh_fan_fan [14:45] hi [14:45] no body there? === Guest49290 is now known as admiralf [14:47] inj3ct0r: plenty of us here [14:50] Tm_T: hi [14:50] :) [14:51] hey Tm_T , Peace-...how's things today ? [14:51] BluesKaj: fine here [14:51] BluesKaj: 20 deggree [14:53] hey folks, i recently wanted to upgrade my kubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 because the summer term starts next week, but when i fired up the daily build in an VM it killed X.org and/or KDE while initilaising Akonadi [14:53] i didnt had a deeper look into that issue, but id like to here if this is known? [14:53] Peace-, how's things = how are you and how is your day going [14:54] hear [14:54] BluesKaj: well :D because today it's 20 degree out there [14:54] :D [14:54] admiralf, best to ask in #ubntu_1 [14:54] thx [14:55] #ubntu+1 === thresh_fan_fan is now known as apachelogger [14:55] ubuntu+1 ...I need my glasses fixed [14:56] :) [14:56] sry admiralf [15:01] ok Peace-, it's 4C here and the snow finally melting ...very cool spring so far [15:01] BluesKaj: :) in italy we get flowers now, well maybe 4 week ago [15:01] weeks === jtheuer__ is now known as jtheuer [15:02] Peace-, nice :) [15:03] spring it's the most beautifull season here for me [15:04] in agoust too much hot , you would die , xD my uncle you know he is canadian and hahhahaha when he came here was agoust :P 35 -39 ° [15:05] Peace-: where are you from? [15:05] hi peeps, I somehow managed to move the system tray, it is now to the left and refuses to go back to the right! [15:05] stephdg: italy [15:05] Peace-: :-) [15:06] stephdg: you ? [15:06] Peace-: from US, but living in India [15:06] stephdg: nice ! [15:06] Peace-: yep :) [15:06] stephdg: temperature? [15:07] well we are a "little" offtopic :D [15:07] Peace-: right now 30 C [15:07] LOL [15:08] and summer is not even here yet Peace- :( [15:08] bobthebuilder, click the cashew in the right corner , then use those little arrows on the left and right to move the panel [15:09] all the panel moves including the K, folders etc... [15:10] I would prefer to leave those as-is and just move from the i-mail-clipboard etc [15:11] maybe you lost the taskbar , bobthebuilder , add another [15:12] err taskmanager I guess [15:13] seems like they keep changing the names [15:14] * genii-around sips and thinks about the kicker [15:14] damn, it's gone to the top now :( [15:15] can I reset my desktop ? [15:25] * BluesKaj wonders if there's a plasma panel tutorial somewhere [15:25] BluesKaj: to do what? [15:27] I've lost the system tray altogether now :( as you can guess I've just switch from windoze to kubuntu :) [15:28] http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma [15:29] thnx again james === dave is now known as Guest76668 [15:40] hello eveybody [15:43] can not update, my system, home is full but i can not clean any files? can you helpme? [15:47] ua: what do you mean you cannot clean files? [15:50] James147>thanks for answer, i mean i don't know how to clean unused files in my home partition, take look this is result of my df -h http://paste.ubuntu.com/586895/ [15:51] as you see home is full [15:52] can you help me? [15:53] ua: umm... delete them? ... you can use du -sh to see which files and folders are using the most space in [15:54] ^^ i would start with /home (ie: du -sh /home/USERNAME ) [15:56] ua: you can try running kleansweep to clear some stuff up... though it wont clear that much space, its most likly data files that are causing the problem [15:57] James147>with witch command? [15:57] ua: kleansweep is a gui program ^^ [15:58] James147>what do you mean by " its most likly data files that are causing the problem [15:58] should i install kleansweep? [15:59] ua: things like movies, music and the like [16:00] do you mean that data files are = something like movies, music..? [16:00] ua: i doupt it will make much difference, it will only clear chaches and histories and such, which will barly take up any space [16:00] ua: yes [16:01] ua: as i said, use "du -sh " to see what folders are taking up the most space [16:01] no i don't have movies or music in my desktop [16:01] James147> [16:01] or filelight... the gui version of du [16:02] ua: well something is... and the only way your going to find out is by searching [16:02] filelight is what I use [16:02] some of my windows won't close by pressing the x. on java chats, digichats, i can't close the windows. is there a command or something to fix that? [16:02] du or filelight will be very usful for finding out what folders are using the space [16:03] naomi_: what programs? [16:03] I also use an alias that maps to "du -Pacmx --max-depth=1 . |sort -g" [16:03] James147>...searching... but how and where? [16:03] naomi_: xkill [16:04] umm it's a digichat. to do with java. like when pm conversations pop up, i can't close them. [16:04] ua: install filelight, use it to scan your home folder [16:04] you said it's possible with kleansweep, can you tell me how? [16:04] can't exit the window by pressing X. [16:05] meganerd>thanks for answer, just filelight and using by gui, do i? [16:05] ua: no, i said it will clean up some files ^^ it wont touch your data files, while will be using most of the space [16:05] ua: just use filelight and see while files are using the space [16:05] ua: yes [16:05] * James147 grumbles at java [16:06] lol. [16:06] naomi_: which version of java are you useing (open or sun)? [16:06] this is answer for ao-get install filelight= E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [16:07] umm. i have no idea to be honest. how do i check? [16:07] sorry "apt-get install filelight" [16:07] does ubuntu have anything called liveusb creatore or something in that line....or is that just a fedora package.......makes the usb stick look just like it was the iso on cd...just the same...not generict like unetbootin [16:08] ua: sudo apt-get install filelight [16:10] !liveusb | TheBuntu [16:10] TheBuntu: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [16:10] ^^ something that does that? [16:11] OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.9.7) (6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1~10.04.1) [16:11] OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 19.0-b09, mixed mode) [16:11] is my java. [16:11] naomi_: try using suns version of java [16:11] !java [16:11] To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc - For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases. [16:11] i did that, unfortunly i've had same anwswer [16:12] !partner [16:12] Canonical's partner repositories provide packages a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" » [16:12]