[00:19] How can I get the regular dpkg and apt-get at the rescue prompt of the alternative Natty installer? [00:21] dajhorn: what rescue prompt is that? [00:22] dajhorn: both apt and dpkg are on your disk, and are available if you get to the point where both / and /usr are mounted. [00:23] kklimonda: The shell prompt that you get if the installer is canceled or fails. [00:24] kklimonda: Only udpkg and the apt-install / apt-setup helpers are available at this prompt. [00:27] dajhorn: if you have ar, gz and tar you can unpack any deb [00:27] right, half an hour in and I've nearly gone blind [00:27] is there a way to disable the drop-shadow on windows in Unity [00:27] ? [00:27] gordonjcp: probably in ccsm? [00:28] dajhorn: but I'm not sure how far will it get you [00:28] kklimonda: that doesn't appear to be in Natty [00:28] kklimonda: Indeed, and I can use udpkg to install from the /pool, but manually walking the dependencies takes a long time. [00:28] dajhorn: right, but it's an emergency [00:29] maybe I need to be running an installed version rather than off the live USB disk image [00:29] you can try installing ccsm, it's in universe afair [00:30] dajhorn: also, apt doesn't have many dependencies [00:30] neither do dpkg [00:32] kklimonda: It is a bunch. I got stuck at the libc dependencies and the empty /var/lib/dpkg. [00:33] kklimonda: I got a bug report that APT in the alternative environment is resolving package dependencies differently than the regular desktop environment. [00:57] How do I do multiple firefox instances with unity? [00:58] how do I scale the CPU when using Unity? [01:00] storrgie: instances or windows? [01:00] windows/tabs [01:00] storrgie: you have to do file -> new window in ff [01:00] then how do i switch between them? [01:00] how do I use panorama? [01:01] when you click on the panel it will show all of them, then click the one you want [01:01] is panorama that new thing if ff4? if so, i have no idea === yofel_ is now known as yofel === BUGabundo is now known as BUGa_sleep [01:26] kklimonda: I tried installing ccsm but all I managed to do was crash compiz [01:26] kklimonda: is there anything else I can do to get rid of the drop shadows? [01:46] gordonjcp, I didnt see you post here :) but pick it up tomorrow... many are generally during the day hours [01:46] yeah [01:47] to be honest I probably won't use unity anyway [01:47] it's too hard to use without some means of seeing which apps have windows open [01:48] there's the launcher but I don't like having to mouse over each square in turn to see what it is [01:49] gordonjcp: the icon in the laucher gets a small overlay when it has open windows [01:49] mhall119: right [01:49] but you still have to mouse over it to get the text label to pop up [01:49] oh, text label, yes [01:50] it's a bit of a usability fail [01:50] such is the way of docks it seems [01:50] I guess I could stick post-its to the side of the screen lined up with each little square [01:50] heh [01:51] gordonjcp, u get used to it - took me abt day and half - no prob now [01:51] why do you want to see which apps have open windows? [01:51] mhall119: well, I quite frequently switch between windows [01:51] mhall119: usually I have gedit open and a couple of terminals [01:51] right, same here [01:51] gordonjcp, alt-tab still works [01:51] so I have to stop and work my way down each square and mouse over it to see what it is [01:52] grusum: true [01:52] ah [01:52] I can't really "see" icons, it's a dyslexia thing [01:52] compiz + scale + scale filter for me [01:52] what does that do? [01:52] scale shows all your open windows, scaled down so you can see them all without overlap [01:53] scale filter let's you type some text, and any window that doesn't have that text in it's title goes away [01:53] getting back to my original problem, does anyone know how to make the huge drop shadows around the selected window go away? [01:53] so I press F12 (my scale trigger), type "gedit", and all I see are my gedit windows, side by side, ready for me to pick which one to switch to [01:54] gordonjcp: get compizconfig-settings-manager and you can change the shadow radius in the window decorators plugin [01:54] mhall119: I tried that, it doesn't seem to have any effect [01:55] hmmm... [01:55] maybe they changed it in Unity [01:55] * mhall119 is still on Maverick === tuxampol_ is now known as tuxampol [02:21] Is there a way to display an image in the message area of a libnotify bubble? [02:26] bpr: the body of the message has to be a string, so you would need to use markup, but I don't know if any notification daemons support the image tag [02:28] bpr, most music players display album art in notifications [02:29] i'm seeing in the pynotify module there's a property called attach-widget for the Notification object [02:29] so, i'm thinking that may be the way [02:30] robin0800: don't most music players put the album art in the icon area, rather than the body area? [02:31] bpr, yes but they are not icons are they? [02:31] I'm actually making a system to enable rating the currently playing song (1-5 stars). I'd like to display the number of stars that the song chas been changed to [02:31] robin0800: right, they're images, but they're not in the body of the notify bubble [02:32] hrm.. let me see if it does the right thing if I just use the icon area [02:32] s/song chas/song has/ [02:35] bpr: unicode stars... [02:36] gordonjcp: interesting [02:38] gordon, i think that's probably gunna be perfect [02:38] thanks! [02:38] any ideas: [02:38] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/728803 [02:38] Ubuntu bug 728803 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu theme switches from partially broken to gnome default on VirtualBox guest" [Low,Confirmed] [02:39] I bet here many users use ubuntu in the vbox [02:39] any workarounds? === mattgriffin_ is now known as mattgriffin === gac_ is now known as gac === AndrewMC` is now known as Guest13774 === 50UAAGBPG is now known as Amaranth === gac is now known as Guest67189 === Guest67189 is now known as gac === gac is now known as Guest43597 === TheEvilPhoenix is now known as EvilPhoenix [04:42] is there a way to get the ubuntu1 client to stop spamming libnotify? [04:47] bpr, you can uncheck notifications in devices in its control panel [04:50] robin0800: ty [04:51] wow, that was clear as day, but somehow i couldn't see that earlier [04:52] btw, is there a config somewhere that allows you to blacklist (or whitelist) apps from using libnotify? [04:52] at the libnotify lvl perhaps? [05:11] Is two-factor authentication on the roadmap for Natty or any later version? === Guest43597 is now known as gac === gac is now known as Guest72911 [05:43] so, how do I go back to the traditional interface? Is there a plan for some sort of introduction? I find discoverability of this interface to be terrible. === Guest36926 is now known as IdleOne [05:44] whereami: when booting select classic desktop [05:44] when booting? or in gdm? [05:45] yes [05:45] when entering your password [05:46] okay, thanks. I haven't quite given up on this yet, but that's good to know. So far I'm not impressed. [05:46] what's this thing called, so I know where to find and file bugs? [05:46] if you enter what you are looking for into the dash it should show up [05:47] what is "the dash"? [05:47] when you press the 'super' key or click the ubuntu logo [05:47] in the top left [05:48] righto [05:48] is there a keyboard shortcut to the workspace switcher? [05:49] also, is there a keyboard shortcut to the menu bar? I can't access menus because I use focus-follows-mouse... [05:50] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-ubuntu-unity-keyboard-shortcuts.html [05:50] "unity"? is that what this thing is called? [05:51] alright. [05:51] thanks for the help, btw. [05:51] unity is the shell that runs on Gnome [05:51] sorry if I'm in grumpy mode... :/ [05:51] no worries [05:52] alt + tab right/left arrow is how i switch workspaces [05:52] oops [05:52] ctrl + alt [05:52] left/right arrow [05:52] and up/down [05:52] cool [05:53] I'll find in CCSM how to re-enable edge switching. [06:02] hmm, I guess edge switching just doesn't work... gonna get my bug on... a little later. [06:03] whereami: iirc F10 will get you into the menu [06:04] yup [06:05] for a lot of pretty good info on the new interface check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity [06:14] bpr, yeah, I found that, thanks. unfortunately, I guess the menus don't work with all apps... eg, xchat only brings up a "File" menu with a single greyed-out "Close" entry. === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero === Guest72911 is now known as gac === gac is now known as Guest18716 === Guest18716 is now known as gac === gac is now known as Guest78617 [08:03] any clues as to where the settings are hidden? [08:11] gordonjcp, search for "settings" is how I found them. [08:12] Are there any replacements for panel apps in unity? specifically, I'm missing the system monitoring graphs. [08:13] also, how the heck do you get the menus for xchat? they don't appear in the app menu area. === guntbert is now known as Guest994 === Guest78617 is now known as gac === gac is now known as Guest22372 === Guest22372 is now known as gac === gac is now known as Guest40668 [09:49] hi friends,today my system is becoming slow, so i did top in the terminal,i came to know that 99% of memory is earting by indicator applet,why that much of memory is taking,is there any way to stop that process? [09:53] http://pastebin.com/rz22Zxd9 [09:57] Any one else seeing this bug? #744834 === Guest40668 is now known as gac [10:56] do you guys know wher i could find the settings for unity? [10:57] xAndromeda: I was looking for them too [10:58] xAndromeda: they turned out to be in the menu when you click on the little circle thing in the top right [10:59] hello all. Could someone please confirm that you have to actually click on the ubuntu logo to get the launcher to come up, mouse over does not work and moving your mouse to the left of the screen does not unhide either. Is this a bug or a feature? [11:20] heys [11:20] anybody here? O.o [11:21] quite a few people, by the looks of it [11:23] *criket* lol [11:23] hey um do you know how i can change unity so that when i launch app finder/launcher etc it dosnt take up the eintire screen? [11:45] *criket* [11:55] so... what would cause /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives to be turned into a file (and thus breaking apt-get install) and how do i fix it? :) [11:57] webgl, does it work for anyone else in natty with an ati card? [12:21] hello all. Could someone please confirm that you have to actually click on the ubuntu logo to get the launcher to come up, mouse over does not work and moving your mouse to the left of the screen does not unhide either. Is this a bug or a feature? [12:32] psypher246: In my setup it's very odd, generally if I move over the icon it half appears - literally appears but shaded out, I have to click to get it to appear [12:33] penguin42: yup exactly what i get [12:33] very annoying [12:33] psypher246: Do you have autohide enabled? [12:33] penguin42: whatever the default is, i just installed and updated, I would say it's more like intellihide [12:34] interesting, I'd assumed it was because I'd enabled autohide [12:34] what is also anjnoying is this: [12:34] open fullscreen ap [12:35] now click logo [12:35] now click workspace switcher [12:35] nothing happen and one sec later the luancher huides again [12:35] you have to click workspaces twice to get focus on it [12:36] and not as fast a doubleclick but not too slow or launcher disappears [12:37] the whole things behavoiur is just wrong and weird and cumbersome, does anyone know if this is feature or bug? === Guest13774 is now known as AndrewMC [13:09] lol [13:09] i thought that too [13:09] but if you move to top left corner [13:09] the bar becomes solid [13:09] im still trying to figure out how to resize the dammed launcher thingy though [13:09] it looks so ugly full screen [13:10] so big and pixillated [13:15] xAndromeda: not gonna happen for now i reckon [13:15] I HOPE canonical relaise that nothing short of a FULYL customizable, themeable and hacable launcher is acceptable [13:16] xAndromeda: i see what u mean about the launcher now, not easy to spot when u using it in a vbox window [13:18] lol :P [13:18] NOW thats MUCH better [13:18] hey [13:18] when you click the application drawer [13:18] or the unity menue thing [13:18] ok that i mist say answer my qorries about muyltiple screens [13:18] worries* [13:18] does the search ting appear full screen? [13:19] cos is i have a screen to the left i don't want the launcher popping up each time i move left [13:19] xAndromeda: oh u mean the search screen not the launcher bar [13:19] yeah that [13:20] from the pics i saw it was supposed to have a resize button [13:20] on the lower right [13:20] so when u click the ubuntu logo u get search box and shortcuts? [13:20] but i dont see it, its full screen al lthe time [13:20] pres esc [13:20] then click it again [13:20] then it's a smaller window again [13:21] with the resize button botom right [13:21] nope [13:21] esc just exits the menue [13:21] *menu [13:21] yes then click again [13:21] icon [13:21] log i mean [13:21] on mine its smaller again [13:21] log? [13:21] logo* [13:22] :/ [13:22] what version do you have [13:22] theres only 1 version right? [13:22] yeah, fully updated natty [13:22] u sure it's running 3d and not 2d? [13:22] yep [13:23] its a tiny thing [13:23] applications and files and folders has the same thing [13:23] but its really starting to piss me off :( [13:23] click applications on launcher, it's a small window, make it large then press esc and then if i click on it again it's smaller again [13:24] exactly! every time i click it i see massive freaking icons :( [13:24] oh [13:24] i thought u meant the window [13:24] yeah the icons are massive [13:24] the window has 2 sizes [13:24] small and fullscreen [13:24] mine only has 1 :( [13:24] but the icons stay the same [13:25] i wonder if theres i file i can edit somewhere [13:25] must say the coner thing is a little annoying too [13:25] corner [13:25] cos i have screen on the left [13:25] have to be precise to get that co [13:26] yeah [13:26] corner or the mouse goes to the left screen [13:26] its also annoying to switch workspaces [13:26] you ahve to go to the corner then the button [13:26] thank god for compiz [13:27] i must admirt i rarely use the workspaces even on ghnome [13:27] ctr-alt left right up down is all i use [13:27] i only use the workspaces whenni wanna move apps around [13:28] can see that i will be using the windows key a lot in natty [13:28] lol [13:28] i love workspaces [13:28] i went back to windows [13:28] last week [13:29] couldnt stand it [13:29] Windows as in M$? [13:29] yeah lol [13:29] blergh [13:29] @#% THAT [13:29] NEVAAAA [13:29] hehe [13:29] i sorta like the aero glass though [13:30] meh [13:30] it looks pretty cool [13:30] for all the productivity I get out of ubuntu/linux, I will NEVER go back to windows [13:30] especially with chrome [13:30] which looks like shit on linux :/ [13:30] yeah chrome does look cool [13:30] yeah [13:30] still, i can't work in windows anyjmore, retarded IMHO [13:31] in ubunut, i'm just happy [13:31] same when i stopped playing games the only reason i kept windows was so my friend can borrow it [13:31] and not get completly lost lol [13:32] only use i have for windows is for it be my gaming console, virus and crapware free, i love it and at work i use a vm for IE and outlook [13:33] lol [13:33] IE @_@ [13:34] what can i do, my work uses a retarded activex CRm app only [13:34] lol [13:34] and that integrates with outlook [13:34] else i am always in thunderbird [13:35] with imap it's the only stable way to talk to exchange [13:36] :P [13:36] ima go to bed, hopefully reinstalling natty will fix things lol [13:39] actually screw it, ill wait untill the beta lol [14:02] Hiyas [14:57] hey folks, i recently wanted to upgrade my kubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 because the summer term starts next week, but when i fired up the daily build in an VM it killed X.org and/or KDE while initilaising Akonadi [14:57] i didnt had a deeper look into that issue, but id like to here if this is known? [14:57] hear [15:02] Is that https://launchpad.net/bugs/744944 [15:02] Ubuntu bug 744944 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu Natty) "kdm is restarted during the upgrade to Natty . The user is disconnected from the session" [Critical,New] [15:03] charlie-tca: And alternately if you booted to single user and updated, it then tries to start kdm [15:04] i didnt upgrade, i tried the Daily Build Desktop CD [15:04] in virtualbox [15:05] There are a couple of other bugs, I don't have the numbers, in work right now. there will be a new daily published in a while for Kubuntu [15:06] The beta comes out thursday, so qa is testing this week, and the images will be rebuilt a few times [15:08] ok thanks, then i will wait till 1.4. [15:23] hey guys [15:29] hi [15:29] question !! [15:29] what is the new way to scale the CPU to performance? [15:30] task manager [15:30] hehe [15:30] hehe [15:30] vm's :) [15:32] question: [15:32] will the ubuntu 11.04 get a new design ? [15:32] o_O [15:32] have you been living under a rock!? [15:33] yes, it has a new desktop :) [15:33] i meant the design ;) [15:33] Unity [15:33] desktop i saw [15:33] but ambiance changing [15:33] it will be tweaked [15:34] but not a brand new one, I wouldnt have thought [15:34] to the desktop [15:35] ok [15:35] but i really would happy [15:35] then [15:35] but if no then no [15:35] how do I scale the CPU to performance in Unity? [15:35] Gulfstream2: uname -r you can find the kerne [15:35] kernel [15:35] he means by GUI [15:36] yeah by GUI === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [15:37] it appears to be already at performance, from what sysinfo says [15:37] shouldn't be, it's set to performance in ther kernel, but the system sets it to ondemand after boot [15:40] it is running at full 1.6Ghz, and the computer appears to be really slow right now... is there a way to load apps to RAM in 11.04? [15:53] has anyone experienced windows 7 suspend features stop working after installing 11.04 alpha along side? === Dink is now known as Guest3485 === Guest3485 is now known as Dink [16:15] question [16:16] answer [16:19] please can ubuntu GIVE ALL! [16:19] EVERYTHIN G! [16:19] to make ubuntu the best [16:49] meh [16:49] manage to break my PulseAudio a bit more [16:49] fuuuuu [16:50] Hmm. [16:50] someone please help http://i51.tinypic.com/2nao4df.png [16:54] Hello, BUGabundo [16:54] hey charlie-tca [16:55] You can't break PA all the way just one time around? [16:55] !upgrade [16:55] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [16:56] I must be doing it wrong. Ever since I quit listening to all the ideas to make PA work, I have had no problems with it. [17:00] charlie-tca: if it ain't broke don't fix it :) [17:00] I let PA do what it does and I have no problems either [17:01] eheh [17:01] mine was boken [17:01] *broken [17:01] now its worse [17:01] need to get crisum [17:02] So should I do an upgrade to natty? [17:02] hm, does unity work with nvidia by now? [17:03] IdleOne: you haven't already [17:03] I am testing the upgrades now [17:03] Ubuntu seems to work fine, xubuntu is in process of upgrading good so far [17:03] Of course, that is still 2 hours to go on Xubuntu [17:03] Pici: I did a clean install of 10.10 about 2-3 months ago (feels like longer) and since then I haven't felt like dealing with brokenness [17:03] I deleted PA as soon as I upgraded... it leaves out too many options and another distortion layer of digital processing isn't needed [17:04] yofel, sure does. quite well [17:04] ah, heck with it. I am going to jump in the pool. [17:04] hm, then I'll try it again later, all my attempts this month ended with compiz crashes [17:04] that apport couldn't retrace -.- [17:05] kde4.6 is working quite well so far on natty , I'm kinda pleased :) [17:05] Fetching! [17:06] +1 for KDE [17:06] except nepomuk and strigi still don't quite work right, take far too much resources after login :S [17:07] yofel, just disable it in startup services , unless you rely on it. [17:08] I have it disabled but gave it a try again a week ago. No, not something I want to have on all the time... [17:10] PA lets me have sound on both my hardware installation and my VirtualBox installs [17:10] can anyone tell me how to get rid of the drop shadow on windows in Natty? [17:11] I personally don't feel the need for indexing/search services , wish i could just remove it , but it tries to remove the whole desktop. afaik [17:11] basically the drop shadow and pulseaudio are the two main things remaining that stop me being able to use Ubuntu [17:12] gordonjcp: Use compizconfig settings manager [17:12] the lack of a taskbar is merely annoying [17:12] penguin42: it doesn't work [17:12] gordonjcp: In the 'window decorations' tab there is a 'shadow radius' [17:12] penguin42: yeah, it has no effect on the shadow [17:13] hi people, do you think that ubuntu 11.04 beta is good for daily usage? [17:13] gordonjcp: Hmph, how about the 'shadow windows -> any' setting at the bottom? [17:14] penguin42: I can't see that anywhere [17:14] it's on the window decorations tab for me, at the bottom [17:15] ah, yeah, right there; what should I set it to? [17:15] "none" seems to have no effect [17:15] gordonjcp: That would have been my guess [17:15] should ccsm changes take effect immediately? [17:16] okay, I've been at this for ten minutes now, I have to give up [17:16] [17:13] hi people, do you think that ubuntu 11.04 beta is good for daily usage? -> anyone? [17:16] gordonjcp: They seem to here; and certainly reducing the shadow radius works [17:16] penguin42: it's having no effect here [17:16] penguin42: sorry, I have to reboot back into normal Linux, this has given me a blinding headache [17:16] brb [17:17] kroson: absolutely not, as far as I'm concerned [17:17] gordonjcp: are there many things to fix until final? [17:17] im thinking about trying linux again, but dont know if unity is a good alternative :S [17:18] never tested it xD [17:18] kroson: You don't have to use unity in Natty, you can still use the old mode [17:18] kroson: So give it a go, if you don't like it you can use 'classic' mode [17:18] I really wanted to like Unity, but it's just horrible [17:18] penguin42: is it default? [17:18] kroson: Yes it is, but on the login box you can just pick classic from a menu at the bottom [17:18] gordonjcp: which one do you think is better? unity or gnome-shell? [17:19] penguin42: will it be gnome 3 or 2.32? [17:19] kroson: neither, they're both unusable [17:19] gordonjcp: It's a million times better than it was a month or two back, another million would be good [17:19] kroson: 2.32 [17:19] * penguin42 would like to give Gnome 3 a go [17:19] penguin42: if I could just get rid of the little squares down the side and get a proper taskbar it would be okay [17:19] penguin42: i like that canonical tries to differentiate its distro from all others [17:19] by creating a new DE [17:19] gordonjcp: So drop back to classic then [17:21] gordonjcp: i think you maybe have to get used to it [17:21] kroson: I can't [17:21] yes its different, it looks like an App store or something lol [17:21] * penguin42 has switched to KDE4 on ----> that machine, it's getting there [17:21] kroson: it's too reliant on hiding text behind little squares [17:21] penguin42: KDE4 seems to be the DE that always has a bug to fix [17:21] so instead of actually seeing what your app is called, you've got to mouse over the row of little squares every time [17:22] i think its slowness may be considered a bug xD [17:22] kroson: And there is a DE that doesn't have that description? [17:22] penguin42: you know what i mean, gnome tends to be more stable [17:22] kroson: I think KDE4 might have actually got there [17:22]