[00:00] and [00:00] sudo service networking start [00:01] on network manager it says job is already running [00:01] and networking? [00:01] is it running? [00:01] networking stop/waining [00:01] waiting* [00:02] sealance: sudo service networking restart [00:02] then type ifconfig -a to list devices [00:02] restart unknown instance [00:02] hm o,o [00:02] try again [00:03] restart: Unknown Instance: [00:03] sealance: with sudo? [00:03] sealance: take a look http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1489373 [00:04] yup, sudo [00:05] ecconf: i need a chkconfig package? [00:05] rcconf: i need a chkconfig package? * [00:06] let me read [00:06] oh [00:06] wait [00:06] sealance: you need to sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart [00:06] :) [00:06] it doesnt work with sudo service. [00:07] ok hold on, let me type out a summary of what just happened [00:07] reconfiguring network interfaces... [00:07] yes [00:07] there is already a pid file [00:07] now type ifconfig -a [00:07] and paste the output in pastebin.com [00:08] ok, pastebin.com? [00:08] ok, hold on, I'll need to get a pendrive to copy it [00:09] oh ye:P [00:09] sealance: I've never used nwsdiswrapper so i cant help you much on that :( [00:14] ok 1 sec [00:14] let me explain what just happened [00:14] i have this prblem with usbs, i reboot and they worked, so i rebooted, and checked the wireless icon too [00:14] now i pick up all wireless signals [00:15] :D [00:15] just connected to my wireless one [00:15] and it works :P [00:15] rcconf, availleux, you guys are great, thank you so much for your time [00:16] :p [00:16] let me read [00:16] sealance: with ndiswrapper? [00:16] yeah [00:17] sealance: default driver didnt work? [00:17] ubuntu one [00:17] with availleux we fixed the ndiswrapper, and with you the network manager [00:17] no, didnt work [00:17] sealance: ok one advice [00:17] yeah [00:17] save all this chat or just the important stuff [00:17] for future reference [00:17] ;) [00:17] ok no problem [00:18] sealance: aveilleux* [00:18] :P [00:19] sealance: when you want to write a nickname write the first letter and hit TAB [00:19] letters* [00:19] sealance: Or first few [00:19] aveilleux: thanks, willdo :P [00:19] ok, well thank you all, i'm gunna leave [00:20] bye sealance [00:20] have fun [00:20] bye! hah willdo! :P [00:25] Hi, can anybody please recommend a photo editor for ubuntu? [00:26] gimp [00:26] Its mainly about resizing... [00:26] crop and resize? [00:26] try Viewnior [00:26] yeah... things like that [00:26] but simple program right [00:26] (i hate gimp for that) [00:27] viewnior doesnt resize :( [00:27] hmm... I had gimp on windows... I try Viewnior... oh okay >D [00:27] :D [00:27] just cropt [00:27] LukasB: did u try default image viewer in ubuntu? [00:28] forget. it sucks [00:28] SO it would be sudo apt-get install Viewnior? [00:28] for editing* [00:28] LukasB: no, you would need to add a PPA to the repositories [00:28] Yes I tried... [00:28] Oh... What is PPA? [00:28] what about [00:28] shotwell photo manager? [00:29] is inapplications > graphics > [00:29] Yes shotwell photo viewer and shotwell photo manager... no use for that... [00:29] damn [00:29] LukasB: open up software center [00:29] search for image editor [00:30] LukasB: i found this http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/09/17/nautilus-image-converter-quickly-resize-or-rotate-images-within-nautilus/ [00:30] might be insteresting [00:30] gonna try myself [00:32] thereis a lot of apps in software center [00:33] k I am right behind you... my mashine is quite slow so give me some time... xD [00:34] x) [00:35] LukasB: in software center go to graphics section [00:35] painting and editing [00:36] Yes I can imagine... :) I am launching my software center and open office drawing at the same time and my computer is on its knees... :D [00:38] I think I give OpenOffice a try... [00:38] No need to install anything... [00:39] just give Ubuntu a try in general [00:39] Try that first, than look for alternatives if necessary [00:39] if you dont need windows apps [00:39] What do you mean, give ubuntu a try? The included software? [00:39] you can also use some in ubuntu using Wine [00:40] LukasB: the operating system in general [00:40] is better. software is different. but in the end it's better than windows in many aspects :) [00:40] Oh yes I do... thats why I am in this channel... :) [00:40] bbl [00:41] But istalling firefox 4.0 yesterday was a bit of a mission :D little bit different to windwos [00:42] To be honest, I didn't discover a big technical advantage yet... Although there a few very nice functions and it is for free. But the best is the great support!!! [00:45] rcconf: Okay, thank you! I am back later, too [00:49] LukasB: If you are still here, try www.picnik.com It is an online picture editor. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [01:20] johnny77: Thank you! [01:22] LukasB: No Problem. I use it for all my photo editing, but all I ever need is just the basics. [01:26] <_spacer_> hey ho [01:27] <_spacer_> ubuntu server for internet share. is this a good idea? [01:29] <_spacer_> i have really really crappy internet. 4 laptops, one pc for server, one for desktop, and two (maybe three) xboxes [01:29] _spacer_: anything with SSH will be nice and secure [01:30] <_spacer_> and reliable? [01:30] seems like you are talking about locally [01:31] i mean, theres not really a server thats going to make your internet more reliable [01:31] ubuntu is just awsome, not magical [01:32] <_spacer_> well i realize that. but i mean in terms of the server sharing reliably. [01:32] its linux [01:32] it'll share whatever you want [01:32] however you want it [01:33] _spacer_: have you checked out something like dropbox? [01:33] <_spacer_> i need to be able to get controll of the internet coming and going out of my household. [01:33] http://holstein.shacknet.nu/dropbox/ [01:33] _spacer_: maybe a router? [01:33] <_spacer_> for example i would like to be able to shut down specific ips [01:33] some kind of gateway [01:33] i like ddwrt [01:34] <_spacer_> and possibly controll the bandwidth aswell. one of my sons likes to download 12 youtube vids at the same time [01:34] <_spacer_> well my other son wants to play xbox [01:35] yeah, i would look at a gateway [01:35] you can do that with ubuntu though i suppose [01:35] <_spacer_> from time to time i am required to send largefile via email for work [01:35] _spacer_: ubuntuserver = ubuntu [01:35] you can install the normal ubuntu desktop [01:36] and run whatever from the server install you want [01:36] _spacer_: something like dropbox would just be running in the background [01:36] and sync as needed [01:36] til its sync'd [01:36] <_spacer_> i would like to run abox headless out of of my closet [01:36] sure [01:37] mine is in the crawl-space :) [01:37] <_spacer_> ok here then. is this possible... [01:37] its linux [01:37] and open-source [01:38] its all possible [01:38] do you want to set it up, is the question [01:38] <_spacer_> i have my crappy rural internet run through my closet box. i have two network cards installed in that box [01:38] cool [01:38] whats running on there? [01:38] <_spacer_> out from there into my router wrt120 linksys [01:39] well, thats 2 points for network adminstration like you are looking for [01:39] with linux on the box as a firewall/gateway [01:39] <_spacer_> right now 10.10, but i think i am gonna burn it down and start fresh...i think i screwed somehting up there [01:39] OR ddwrt on the router [01:39] ddwrt is easier in my opinion [01:40] and you already have the hardware [01:40] so why not?, right [01:41] <_spacer_> will the ddwrt work on my router? [01:42] hmmm, acutally, i dont think it is supported [01:42] <_spacer_> brb [01:42] http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/support/router-database [01:42] a supported one is like 15 bucks though [01:42] at the charity shop [01:44] <_spacer_> i didn't think so [01:45] yeah? [01:45] most are [01:45] i have the 150 [01:45] <_spacer_> so how about running thru the server [01:45] and a bunch of wrt54g's [01:45] _spacer_: sure [01:45] you'll want some kind of router/gateway [01:45] <_spacer_> yeah i have crap luck with routers [01:46] and you can use the router you have like a switch [01:46] <_spacer_> unhappy child, brb again [01:51] <_spacer_> is it difficult to configure ubuntu to share internet? [01:52] _spacer_: i would say do-able [01:53] ive only done it with the GUI [01:53] but, i know its possible [01:53] <_spacer_> ok how difficult would it be to configure the server from a seperate box running the GUI? [01:54] i wouldnt let the GUI be a concern [01:54] if it is [01:54] just install the normal ubuntu [01:54] and VNC into it [01:54] you can run that headless [01:54] and SSH into it too like you would a server [01:54] *a typical server [01:54] <_spacer_> i tried that to no avail (vnc headless) [01:54] yeah? [01:55] thats one of those things that 'just works' [01:55] the server is integrated into the desktop [01:55] so, you just turn it on [01:55] <_spacer_> what version did you set that up on? [01:55] version of ubuntu? [01:55] <_spacer_> yes [01:56] 8.04 - now [01:56] <_spacer_> yeah, i think there is some difficulty setting that up on 10.10 for some reason. [01:56] worked for me [01:56] _spacer_: try different clients [01:57] <_spacer_> cool [01:57] also, try 10.04 [01:57] its the LTS release [01:57] thats what is, and will be on my server [01:57] and production machines === tuxampol_ is now known as tuxampol [01:57] <_spacer_> 10.4 is better than 10.10? [01:57] no [01:57] its just the LTS (long term support) [01:58] usually considered more stable [01:58] <_spacer_> i see [01:58] or boring, depending on how you look at it ;) [01:58] you can do it all with 10.10 though [01:58] if you really like it [01:58] <_spacer_> stable is def.more exciting to me, as it allows me to do otherbthings [01:58] but, right now, you might as well do 11.04 [01:59] thats pretty stable, and almost final [01:59] <_spacer_> i have the image for 10.10, and i may have mentioned my internet is pretty lame [02:00] dont worry too much then [02:00] <_spacer_> any how, can you point me at a doc or something for this project? i'm so newb i'm not really sure what to look for? [02:02] http://askubuntu.com/questions/15591/resources-for-making-an-ubuntu-based-router [02:02] ^ seems relavant [02:02] thats the easy GUI way that i have tried [02:04] <_spacer_> ok thanks...gonna have a read. [02:04] <_spacer_> hey is firestarter still relevant? [02:05] yes [02:06] <_spacer_> cool thx === Guest460372 is now known as kevin37353088484 [02:50] Hello I have an Acer Aspire One AOD250-1151 and just installed 10.10 and the wireless card is not working "device not ready(firmware missing)" what do I need to do/can I download the drivers somewhere/how do I install them? [02:56] I have looked for help on the forums, but can't find my specific problem, there is a message in boot that tells me where to download but can't see it goes too fast [02:58] T_N_T: Have you tried doing dmesg |tail ? [02:58] in terminal? [03:01] "skipping edid probe due to cached edid" + ext4-fs (loop0): re-mounted. Opts: errors:remount-ro,commit=0 [03:05] aveilleux , what does all that mean? [03:07] hm [03:07] T_N_T: I'll admit, I'm not good with filesystem problems [03:08] thats a filesystem problem? how does that affect why the wireless card won't work? [03:09] T_N_T: That error is filesystem-related. You said you're having wireless card problems? [03:10] yes [03:10] aod 250-1151 "device not ready, firmware missing" [03:11] it gave me some message where to download the driver at boot, but it goes too quick to see it [03:12] T_N_T: You can always do dmesg |more if you feel like scrolling through all the logs [03:12] ok\ thx [03:13] on my other notebook no issues, but this one has been frustrating, I do love Ubuntu though [03:13] very clean OS === PabloRubianes_ is now known as PabloRubianes [03:17] there are a huge amount of messages to look through [03:18] just found the message I need [03:23] aveilleux thanks for your help [03:26] T_N_T: No problem [03:46] So if I don't have ubuntu or wubi in my add/remove programs list, and no ubuntu or wubi directory in my C drive, and there are unknown partitions in my Computer Management, then I've done something horribly wrong if I want to uninstall ubuntu, no?? [03:52] Why have you done something wrong? Seems like its all removed... === AndrewMC` is now known as Guest13774 [04:25] I have an issue: I added Ubuntu Dev Audio PPA and upgraded the audio packages. Then I purged the PPA... And now I have obsolete packages. How can I rollback to the previous version of pulseaudio etc? [04:26] getting login screen on liveCD. is ther a default login/password? i tried ubuntu and blank. === share is now known as Guest14482 [04:27] arbius: try ubuntu ubuntu [04:27] or blank blank [04:27] ok , will try === Guest14482 is now known as \share [05:04] downgrade packages synaptic? [05:05] E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. [05:05] why? === Guest36926 is now known as IdleOne [06:12] help with pulseaudio pls [06:13] what wrong with your audio? [06:14] packages [06:14] I added PPA dev [06:14] upgraded.. now i want to downgrade it [06:14] removed the ppa, updated the repositories [06:15] and now i cant install pulseaudio [06:15] pulseaudio: [06:15] Depends: libpulse0 (=1:0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu21.1) but 1:0.9.22-0ubuntu1 is to be installed [06:15] and if i remove libpulse0 it will remove many audio applications [06:15] how do i solve this? [06:18] oh, this case new to me... [06:19] :( [06:20] now he parts.. [06:24] ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa [06:24] solved === aztek is now known as nickna === nickna is now known as aztek === aztek is now known as mr_nas === deegee_1 is now known as deegee === mr_nas is now known as aztek === Vetinari is now known as lukjad [12:23] * aztek maleset === Guest13774 is now known as AndrewMC [17:36] quick question, is it possible to install software from the ubuntu software center without inserting the live cd? [17:38] sealance: as long as you have an internet connection and ubuntu is installed [17:39] DarkwingDuck: yup, I have both of those, but it still asks for the cd, any way to tell it not to? [17:39] you probably want to remove the CD from the software sources [17:39] tsimpson: how? [17:39] sealance: Click on "edit" and "software sources" [17:44] 2EYB6ARD *R6B3E0S *3EASE HE3*! [17:45] Try "FN" and Numlock (or function or something similar) [17:45] well guessed sir! thank you VERY much :-) [17:46] Heh, no problem I've seen it a few times. Glad to help :) [17:55] camelinahat: thanks, it worked [17:56] sealance: No problem, glad to help :) [18:00] hi all [18:01] I'm going to set up a box to only play music, with ncmpcpp and no X [18:02] the end user is a Win user and not really that much into computing... how do I make it easy for him to move music over to the box? [18:02] should I ensure there's an ntfs partition? [18:02] kristian-aalborg: FTP [18:03] hi aveilleux [18:03] kristian-aalborg: Or, a Samba share [18:03] this is likely to be on a network, yes [18:03] with ftp I guess he could do it in a browser? [18:03] kristian-aalborg: No, FTP uses an FTP client [18:04] kristian-aalborg: Most browsers (Firefox or Opera are the ones I know of) can only pull down [18:04] ah yes [18:06] so emelFM or something like that [18:07] hmm... emelFM is *nix only, it seems... what's the most user-friendly GPL file manager for Win? [18:08] and by "user friendly", I don't mean "simple vi-like key bindings", like some people do ;) [18:08] file manager in windows supports ftp [18:08] the built-in one? [18:09] Yep. Windows Explorer support FTP both anonymous and with authentication. [18:10] kristian-aalborg: Windows Explorer works, as camelinahat mentioned, [18:10] kristian-aalborg: I personally use Filezilla [18:10] I'm proud to say I haven't really used it for 5 years ;) [18:11] I was thinking about filezilla too... so that I could reproduce whatever problems the EU might have [18:11] Just in the address bar (or the "breadcrumbs" for vista/Win 7) delete whatever is in there for say Documents. enter in ftp://user:pass@localnet.host (or leave off the user:pass and they can then go file and log in) [18:11] this removes the need for a common FS, right? [18:12] Correct. No need to setup and configure samba as well. [18:13] Educating the user on how to access the ftp with windows explorer is about all that's required. But then you'd still have to do that even with a network drive [18:15] I still think this is the proper way [18:16] the other thing I could think of was a script to mount and copy an usb pen, but that could easily go awry [18:16] I'll probably put MC on the box, though, to sort things === inpressi is now known as easwar === Guest460372 is now known as seidos === seidos is now known as kevin50047419529 [19:15] does anyone have any experience setting up ecommerce on their site? [19:16] i want to see if i can sell some of my writing [19:17] for like a nickel [19:23] kevin50047419529: you're much better off using something like paypal or google checkout, running your own ecommerce software is risky [19:24] if your database gets compromised and it has credit card numbers in it, you'll owe at least $10000 per credit card leaked in fine, plus civil damages [19:24] s/fine/fines === kevin50047419529 is now known as kevin4942941 [19:29] (yes, these are scare numbers and always get talked down in court settlements, but most people don't want to get as far as a courtroom when their little ecommerce site gets hacked :)) [19:32] hmmm, yeah, i'd have to learn postgre sql anyway. i hear mysql isn't very secure [19:32] i'll check out these payloadz or e-junkie sites [19:32] thanks pleia2 [19:32] sure :) good luck [19:42] Does Ubuntu not have javac? [19:45] Gamegoofs2: it does if you install openjdk-6-jdk or sun-java6-jdk [19:46] yofel: Doesn't it already have openjdk? [19:47] the runtime environment yes, but not the development kit by default [19:47] hm, then again, not sure about the jre either [19:47] Oh ok [19:47] just install it from synaptic [19:49] Ok thanks. [22:43] i recently installed ubuntu, and encrypted my drive but how can i find my encryption key via the shell again? [22:44] you can, that's the point of the key [22:44] you cant [22:44] you know the key, no one else knows, your files are safe [22:46] so if someone take out my harddrive, plugs it in their own pc, they cant access the files when mounted? [22:47] yes [22:47] not without knowing the key [22:47] neat [22:47] cheers mate [22:48] That's the whole point of encryption right?:) [23:47] hello [23:47] i've installed network-manger-gnome but i dont see it in the menu n cant either launch it via the cmmd line