=== asac_ is now known as asac === 50UAAGBPG is now known as Amaranth [07:30] robert_ancell, hi [07:30] ricotz, hey [07:30] ricotz, nice work on the GNOME3 PPA btw! [07:30] robert_ancell, do you have an idea what is causing totem to fail? [07:30] thanks [07:31] ricotz, no, I had a quick look but I couldn't work it out either [07:31] it seems to be relate to the totem-pl-parser update, it looks like the includes coming from there are empty but the pkg-config file looks good [07:31] locally it builds fine though [07:32] ricotz, btw, I made a vinagre branch, but it needs more dependencies until it can be finished [07:33] i see [07:33] what do you think about gnome-session and gdm? [07:35] ricotz, I don't know what the side-effects will be, but I figure the PPA should run all of GNOME3 [07:37] robert_ancell, exactly, but these are heavily patched :/ [07:38] so, if you think you can make it work, go for it! [07:39] perhaps ;) [07:40] robert_ancell, there are some packages which should go into natty like mutter, clutter-1.0, totem-pl-parser, accountsservice, perhaps you have time for them [07:41] ricotz, I just updated clutter-1.0, sure, I'll try and look at the others [07:41] thanks [07:56] Good mornin [07:57] fta: ah, you didn't use -u? sorry about that [07:58] ugh, starting the desktop session in the morning is *hard work* these days :( [08:18] good morning [08:18] hey didrocks [08:19] bonjour didrocks [08:20] hey mvo. Guten Morgen pitti [08:26] pitti: about the openoffice.org-dev package in the archive. it seems likes its in NBS and causes a upgrade issue too, anything I can do to help to get rid of it (causes the main-all upgrade test profile to fail) [08:27] the auto-upgrade-tester looks remarkable less bad than it used to be, server, ubuntu,kubuntu,mythubuntu all green (well, white :) [08:30] mvo: I think we can just kill it; there are just three reverse build deps in universe, i. e. removal won't break installability [08:30] and the next upload of these can just switch to libo-dev [08:31] great [08:33] I can do the transition for the three deps now if that helps [08:33] mvo: removed [08:37] . [08:38] thanks pitti, I look at ooo-build-extensions and the others now [08:38] mvo: don't worry too much about it, though [08:38] hey Sweetshark [08:38] good morning Sweetshark [08:39] at the next uds you have to tell us the story behind your nick [08:39] Sweetshark, hi :), i hope you will upload the new libreoffice to the ppa for lucid as well [08:41] mvo: yeah, I already pinned him down for telling in exchange for buying him a beer! [08:44] hello desktopers [08:44] bonjour Monsieur Bacher! [08:45] hey pitti, how are you? [08:45] Bonjour Monsieur `list-all-nicks` [08:45] hy seb128! [08:45] pitti, let me remind you about the meeting reminder! [08:45] hey cdbs [08:45] hey cdbs [08:45] seb128: oh, today I genuinely forgot (so far), merci! [08:45] hey mvo [08:45] pitti, ;-) [08:45] hello there pitti and seb128 :) [08:46] ricotz: yes, I will. But there are still some deps I must figure out for the backports ... [08:46] seb128: look at the top at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.txt [08:46] * pitti sheds a tear *sob* [08:46] seb128: do you think we should keep RB in main until next LTS at least? [08:46] pitti, that seems wrong [08:46] are there plans to have networkmanager 0.9? [08:46] pitti, ogra said they wanted to keep it for armel iirc since mono and armel are not best buddies [08:46] Sweetshark, ok, thanks [08:46] pitti, or I got that wrong? [08:47] seb128: why? the evil fairy stomped it to death [08:47] seb128: ah, then I guess they should seed it on armel then [08:47] pitti, check with ogra [08:47] seb128: I was pondering to add it to supported, but ubuntu-netbook [armel] is better [08:47] seb128: yup, thanks [08:47] but yeah I would keep it in main anyway until lts [08:47] it's not like it was costing a lot to maintain [08:48] seb128: right [08:52] morning [08:59] rodrigo_: good morning [08:59] hey rodrigo_ [08:59] hey desrt [08:59] hi seb [08:59] hey rodrigo_ [08:59] bonjour desrt, how are you? [08:59] and pitti :) [08:59] tired [08:59] * desrt is in india and still not completely cured of jetlag [09:00] hi desrt, seb128, pitti [09:00] rodrigo_: i was wondering if you plan to package networkmanager 0.9 in the gnome3 ppa.... [09:00] good morning everyone [09:00] desrt, yes, needed for g-c-c [09:00] rodrigo_: that makes me happy :) === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [09:01] desrt, cool :) [09:01] hey chrisccoulson, back to normal hours? :-) [09:01] rodrigo_: looking forward to the awesome new applet [09:01] hi pitti :) [09:01] just for today ;) [09:03] desrt, btw, I came up with this patch: http://pastebin.com/HEtQD1iJ [09:04] desrt, I'm going to make a package so that people can test it before I push to master [09:05] rodrigo_: looks quite good [09:05] rodrigo_, hi [09:06] wait... [09:06] quite bad, actually [09:06] hi ricotz [09:06] g_usleep is for micros [09:06] rodrigo_, will you have time for the ppa today? [09:06] ricotz, I hope so, why? [09:06] so you only sleep for 1millisecond total [09:06] 2, sorry [09:06] desrt, oh, right [09:07] rodrigo_, the eog is missing the introspection build, perhaps it could be internally shipped like gedit does [09:07] also: it's very silly but you only try 19 times :) [09:07] ricotz, yes [09:08] rodrigo_, alright, i hope you could make that [09:09] desrt, i have a nm09 package [09:09] ricotz: fascinating. ppa? [09:10] desrt, but it failed for i386, but seems to work here with amd64 [09:10] that seems odd [09:10] what happened on i386? [09:10] https://edge.launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/staging [09:10] ricotz, oh, cool! [09:12] rodrigo_: i don't suppose natty will go with 0.9 [09:12] seems a bit late for that... [09:13] desrt, yes [09:13] desrt, it would break a lot, but perhaps the current nm packaging of 0.8.4 could be changed [09:13] the ppa for now [09:13] rodrigo_: fine by me [09:13] all the cool kids run with the PPA anyway :) [09:14] :D [09:14] the natty package should have a separate package for the vpn lib [09:17] robert_ancell, have you seen the new ibus package, i think it might be better if the gtk3 module is put into an extra package like libcanberra [09:18] ricotz, not sure what you mean, but I don't know anything about ibus anyway :) [09:19] robert_ancell, there was an ibus package uploaded to the gnome3 ppa which enables the gtk3 support [09:19] uploaded by wzssyqa === lool- is now known as lool [09:20] the ppa seems to start being a bit hackish it seems [09:20] we will need to get quite some cleaning before uploading next cycle [09:21] hi seb128! [09:21] how are you? [09:21] we should also recommend users to not run it if they want something that doesn't break their system or the upgrade to next ubuntu version [09:21] hey chrisccoulson, I'm fine thanks, how are you? [09:21] yeah, good thanks [09:22] ricotz, oh, right, now I see what you mean [09:22] seb128, i have done some direct copying from debian, so nothing to worry ;) [09:23] robert_ancell, btw who is wzssyqa [09:23] ricotz, it's rather than the binary are not always distributed as they should [09:24] or that some component should be better let out of ppa builds, ppa are fine for applications, what is in this ppa is becoming border line [09:24] ricotz, ok, delete it from the PPA if it's going to cause problems (as it now _only_ works with GTK3 right?) [09:24] like it's likely it will break other desktops [09:24] or patches got dropped because people didn't want to port them to the new version [09:24] seb128, yeah, right [09:25] ricotz, he asked to join, he maintains some debian packages. [09:25] seb128, mostly the lpi patches are applied [09:25] we should communicate clearly that this ppa doesn't give any garanty that it will not screw your distro and that you can't complain if it does [09:25] seb128, but the control-center-patches were too heavy [09:26] We really need to work out who can be in the team, there are people applying all the time and I have no idea who most of them are [09:26] #include :) [09:26] robert_ancell, i see [09:26] we should only accept people who contributed to something in Ubuntu before [09:26] if they didn't ask them to do merge requests for a bit and get those reviewed [09:27] to see what work they are doing [09:27] morning [09:29] seb128, ok, besides the ibus package there is nothing hackish in there yet === m4n1sh is now known as manish [09:31] didrocks: so! [09:32] * didrocks things he should run away now :) [09:32] thinks* [09:32] didrocks: do you remember the unity startup failures I (and other folks) had with the live CD? [09:32] * pitti just can't resist scaring didrocks in the morning two days before b1 [09:32] pitti, you mean the if user == pitti; then exit 0 [09:32] pitti: yeah, I remember about it, unfortunately [09:33] seb128: exactly! but I found a clever workaround [09:33] I now call myself p1tti [09:33] you changed your name? ;-) [09:33] lol [09:33] didrocks: anyway, I just tested the current builds on my wife's PC (ati) and my dell mini 10, and it's all working now \o/ [09:34] didrocks: I assume what happened was that there was an unity crash earlier, and since it didn't autospawn either, you got stuck [09:34] pitti: excellent \o/ I tried last week on the dell mini 10 (intel) as well and try a lot of reboot without getting it [09:34] now I didn't see it crashing, but even if it does, it would respawn [09:34] seb128, hmm, afaik no patches have been dropped, except for the obsolete ones. It's true we have several disabled patches, but nothing dropped for no reason [09:34] pitti: yeah, that's possible [09:34] pitti: anyway, the test tool will change just after beta 1 [09:34] didrocks: so I think it's all good now, or at least good enough for b1 [09:34] pitti: new, small, and shiny new little piece of software :) [09:34] didrocks: it's just a lot of hard work on my workstation now (i. e. the docked x201), as it still keeps crashing like mad at start [09:35] didrocks: oh, like a script to exercise it? [09:35] pitti: always the same crashes? (thoses you reported) [09:35] didrocks: yes, the closure thihngy [09:35] pitti: it's just independant of Nux now [09:35] rodrigo_, well, I've seen quite some indicator patches being not applied because they need to be updated [09:35] about 5 times in a row, whenever you so much as look at it, and then it suddenly settles down [09:35] rodrigo_, or things like applying default keyboard layout for the system in g-c-c [09:35] pitti: yeah, it's targeted and should be fixed with the next release (it's on the 10 bugs priority list) [09:35] rodrigo_, those will need to be figured before those packages land in Ubuntu [09:36] didrocks: but I'm happy that it doesn't affect more people [09:36] pitti: mainly, we have a lot of signals not disconnected when objects are still alive [09:36] seb128, yes, of course, that's why they are just disabled, not dropped [09:36] didrocks: perhaps this is specific to multiple monitors? [09:36] rodrigo_, well, when I say "dropped" is "not applied to the current build" [09:36] pitti: not really, I have multiple monitors and it doesn't happen here [09:37] didrocks: then it's strcmp(user, "martin") .. [09:37] pitti: but you have scripts at startup, isn't it? [09:37] pitti: of course! :-) [09:37] didrocks: I do, but doesn't matter -- it crashes before already [09:37] reminds me to add p1tti now as well [09:37] pitti: well, anyway, all crashes we have is basically the same symptoms: undisconnected signals, we will get through them [09:38] didrocks, you can't say all the crashes, the most frequent ones rather [09:38] didrocks, there is still quite some crashes which are non frequent ones but not due to signals ;-) [09:39] seb128: don't be picky on "all" and "most of" :-) [09:39] right [09:39] ;-) [09:39] didrocks, "don't be picky", you don't know me or what? ;-) [09:39] kwality! [09:40] pitti, gwality you mean? ;-) [09:40] seb128: heh! it was some kind of *jedi wave* [09:41] seb128, right, but it's just because code was changing too fast to be keeping up the patches, now I guess it's a good time for re-enabling the patches [09:42] ricotz, ^^ [09:42] rodrigo_, right [09:42] ricotz: so i had to do a dpkg diversion in order to install your packages without uninstalling empathy :) [09:42] ricotz, if you update a package and have time, please look at re-enabling the disabled patches [09:42] rodrigo_, one other concern is also that some bits landing in the ppa are cross desktop things that might break kde or xubuntu [09:43] ricotz: but i notice something fairly substantial: the new panel applet doesn't appear to be working properly [09:43] rodrigo_, or that the new binaries might not be clearly reviewed and might be different from what will land in debian or Ubuntu proper and break upgrades [09:43] seb128, yes, I guess that's true [09:43] pitti - whats the plan for gluezilla after beta 1? are we stuck with it? [09:43] (i'm not sure if there was any more discussion) [09:45] chrisccoulson: there's currently some effort with using webkit in mono, but I wouldn't bet on it getting ready in time [09:45] rodrigo_, alright, i will try to do so [09:45] chrisccoulson: frankly, I'd be fine with just dropping the webbrowser widget from mono for now [09:46] pitti - yeah, that makes sense [09:46] desrt, yes, that is caused by the packaging changes and the vpn lib [09:46] ricotz: i guess the old library should be uninstaled anyway [09:47] since the dbus API is different now [09:47] (although i don't know how substantial the changes are) [09:47] seb128, i see you concerns, but if these build-deps are needed for updating the gnome3 packages, in my opinion it is ok to add them [09:47] pitti - i guess that things like gluezilla are going to be even more difficult to support in the future based on this announcement: http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.embedding/browse_thread/thread/73f34c70ef8df30a# [09:47] ricotz, some of those are optional [09:47] we should maybe have 2 ppas [09:48] one with only safe changes and one with extra components for those who want to break their install [09:49] seb128, actually updating g-s-d is needed and this one makes the most trouble, i think [09:50] seb128, updating things like clutter is needed for bugfixes [09:50] seb128, you might speaking of accountsservice which wasnt really needed [09:51] seb128, i think making two ppas isnt a good idea [09:51] new depends are fine, I will have a review of what is the ppa, but desrt speaking about installing thing that lead to have other things uninstalled or use dpkg-divert seems wrong [09:51] ricotz, thanks [09:52] ricotz, rodrigo_: let's talk about it later, I need to review the ppa before doing extra comments [09:52] seb128, ok [09:52] seb128, ok [09:53] dpm: Saw ou ping yesterday. Awesome! :-D [09:54] dpm: I just pushed a fix to the GIR-error handling that makes Unity-3.0.gir work again (even though it contains errors). Also pushed a fix for return in C for methods that return an array of something [09:57] ah, that's better: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-11.04-beta-1.html [09:57] ricotz: so there is the .typelib missing [09:58] desrt, the nm libs might be compatible to some point if there werent abi bumps [09:58] ricotz: it's the dbus API that changed... [09:58] desrt, i havent checked if it is running on gnome2 [09:59] * rodrigo_ needs to run some errands, bbiab [09:59] ricotz: oops. my fault for not installing the package containing the typelib =) [10:00] desrt, exactly ;) [10:00] g-s cant depend on it yet :P [10:02] so this is nice [10:02] missing quite some functionality at the moment, but very pretty [10:02] desrt, do you have an idea why the i386 build fails? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/67321184/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.network-manager_0.8.997-1~ricotz1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [10:02] cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-unused-but-set-variable" [10:02] looks pretty simple [10:02] i guess the i386 builders have an older gcc? [10:03] desrt, hmm, the gcc versions should be the same [10:04] the packaging was made by mbiebl and it seems to work in debian experimental [10:07] -Wno-unused-but-set-variable needs gcc 4.6 doesn't it? [10:08] it only exists in documentation for 4.6 anyway ;) [10:10] chrisccoulson, shouldnt it fail on amd64 too then? [10:10] mvo: hm, apparently apt or python-apt recently changed wrt. the "architecture" field? [10:10] where is the build log for amd64? [10:11] mvo: apt.Cache()['language-pack-de'].candidate.architecture [10:11] mvo: until recently this used to say "all", now it says "amd64" [10:11] chrisccoulson, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/67268650/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-amd64.network-manager_0.8.997-1~ricotz1_BUILDING.txt.gz [10:11] mvo: is that expected/intended? if so, what is the correct way to check if a package is arch:all? [10:11] mvo: (this breaks jockey ATM) [10:12] hmmm, weird - checking whether gcc understands -Wno-unused-but-set-variable... yes [10:12] in both ;) [10:13] mvo: I could check candidate.filename.endswith('_all.deb'), but this sounds a bit hackish? [10:13] mvo: or would candidate.record['Architecture'] be better? [10:16] mvo: (might be fallout from multiarch?) [10:17] ricotz, i would try and fix these errors first: "nm-dhcp-manager.c:250:3: error: format '%zd' expects type 'signed size_t', but argument 6 has type 'long unsigned int'" [10:17] perhaps the last error is just totally bogus ;) [10:19] mvo: using record['Architecture'] for now, this makes the tests happy again [10:21] chrisccoulson, ah, something like this http://osdir.com/ml/attachments/txt4F3qluZZlN.txt [10:31] pitti: its actually libapt that changed, but it should not have leaked for the non-multiarch case [10:31] jasoncwarner: heh, added you to https://launchpad.net/~canonical-desktop-team after so many months :) [10:33] pitti: I check with donkult, this should only be like this if multiarch is enabled (and even then its wrong to expose it like this) [10:35] mvo: ok, thanks; I'll use this as a workaround in the meantime [10:36] thanks [10:37] seb128, pitti, mono has a workaround now, so we can switch armel to banshee (which i did), put RB to supported if you still want to keep it [10:38] i didnt know that was wanted, else i had added it when seeding banshee [10:39] ogra_: ah, splendid; will do, thanks! [10:39] the fix wasnt tested with an in-archive built mono yet, if everything goes wrong we have to revert (but i dont think so) === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic [10:44] cool, thanks kamstrup, I'll pull the latest version to generate the next updated docs [10:46] dpm: sweet! [11:02] * didrocks out for 2 hours, bbl [11:11] seb128: we still have an explicit "supported" seeding of pidgin; as we have had empathy in lucid, I think it might be time to remove that? [11:13] pitti, works for me [11:39] chrisccoulson, the nm0.9 error message was bogus ;) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:36] howdy [12:37] hey cyphermox, good morning [12:41] ricotz, I see you are merging from debian some of the stuff in the PPA, but wouldn't it be better to keep the changelog history? [12:45] rodrigo_, in most case there wasnt an ubuntu history, because they where already syncs, or there werent differences [12:46] rodrigo_, in case of g-c-c, yeah it has a huge cluttered changelog which should be collected in one merge-changelog-entry [12:48] ricotz, ok [13:05] mvo: are you around? [13:07] hi, is there somebody who can help me, by reviewing a patch sent to software-center? http://pad.lv/704719 [13:11] alex3f: thanks a lot for the patch, in order to apply I need a copy of the contributors agreement. could you please check http://www.canonical.com/contributors ? [13:11] mvo: ok, will do it [13:12] thanks a lot! [13:13] (that particular patch would cause the file menu and various other things to no longer work) [13:14] kiwinote: I'm gonna investigate on a solution [13:15] my bad. [13:16] alex3f: np - thanks a lot for the various patches/comments I've seen coming through this morning! [13:16] I'm preparing my GSoC application for software-center packagekit backend [13:16] (as an escuse :-) ) [13:17] hm, was planning to do the same myself ;) [13:17] we can sort something out though [13:17] competition! [13:18] the appstream requirements are split in two projects [13:18] installer backend and OSC integration [13:19] maybe we can work together, but on different parts [13:46] good morning everyone [13:46] hey kenvandine [13:46] how are you? [13:46] good [13:46] and you? [13:49] I'm fine thanks [13:57] Good morning kenvandine === nessita1 is now known as nessita === nessita1 is now known as nessita [14:01] hey bcurtiswx [14:23] alex3f: thanks a bunch for the mail, I look at your patches now, was on the phone and everything [14:36] hey kenvandine, good morning [14:36] good morning pitti === nessita1 is now known as nessita === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [15:07] tkamppeter: would you have time to help me with a cups-pdf postrm issue? [15:13] seb128, gdm/gsd race confirmed fixed with my patch, so feel free to review/merge/upload this: https://code.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gnome-settings-daemon/fix-649809/+merge/55346 [15:14] rodrigo_, thanks, I will merge but not upload since we are frozen for beta still [15:14] seb128, ah, ok [15:21] (note that you can upload, but unless you fix an RC bug we won't accept it and respin the images for it) [15:30] pitti, right, but we can as well queue in the vcs and do one upload after the freeze if something else comes in between [15:30] seb128: right, I agree; just saying for cases where a followup upload is unlikely [15:30] "fire and forget" mode [15:30] right [15:31] pitti, did we get new isos since lunch? [15:31] in the pipeline [15:31] ok, let me try the one rsycned during lunch then [16:09] seb128, all: new desktops 20110329.1 for testing [16:09] didrocks, please milestone this bug for me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/740360 [16:09] Launchpad bug 740360 in unity "[a11y] panel service crashes with a11y enabled while navigating" [Undecided,In progress] [16:09] didrocks, fix is coming [16:10] pitti, thanks, will rsync that while doing a first install with the previous iso ;-) [16:10] rodrigo_: done! :) [16:10] didrocks, merci beaucoup mon ami :) [16:11] didrocks, hmm, the (ubuntu) bug doesn't need to be milestoned? [16:12] rodrigo_: no, it's only the upstream one which is taking into account by my script [16:12] didrocks, ok [16:14] mpt, heyo. More indicator-datetime questions. Would you like the error-icon-upon-focus-out behavior for the main timezone selection entry too? [16:19] * mterry pokes tedg to review indicator-datetime branches [16:19] mterry, I literally setting up my environment for that right now :-) [16:19] mterry, To be fair, I was doing it last night but my computer crashed so I gave up. [16:20] * tedg is not having stable love from Ubuntu right now [16:20] :-/ [16:20] tedg: unity crashes, or something else, too? [16:21] pitti, Kernel, hard lock. [16:21] :( [16:21] pitti, It seems to be in a busy loop as when I restart my fans go on crazy :-) [16:22] Though, I think it may be network traffic based. Please don't ping me on IRC ;-) [16:22] tedg: *splatter* [16:26] mterry, I guess so, that makes sense [16:27] rodrigo_: ping me when you release the meeting lock === nessita1 is now known as nessita [16:28] didrocks, meeting lock? [16:28] rodrigo_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2011-03-29 [16:28] didrocks, hmm, I edited it 30 mins ago, I guess it failed to unlock it [16:28] * rodrigo_ tries to edit again [16:29] didrocks, try now [16:30] rodrigo_: works, thanks! [16:30] ok [16:32] mterry, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeAndDate?action=diff&rev2=31&rev1=30 [16:33] mpt, seems fine, thanks [16:39] hmm, no meeting? [16:41] rodrigo_, in one hour [16:41] gcalendar is wrong again though [16:41] rodrigo_, dst was this w.e and the time is fixed on utc [16:42] see pitti's email about shifting from one hour [16:42] he mentioned it in the reminder [16:42] ok [16:43] I might have to miss it today then, let's see if I can postpone my other stuff [16:45] rodrigo_, I'm sure it's ok if you have something else to do [16:45] rodrigo_, we can catch up with you later if needed [16:45] ok === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic [17:02] mterry, bug #742153 [17:02] Launchpad bug 742153 in indicator-datetime "indicator-applet-complete crashed with SIGABRT in g_object_newv()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/742153 [17:02] seb128, yeah, I commented in it [17:02] doesn't make sense... [17:02] mterry, one issue that could lead to that is that an install broke before the trigger updating the schemas mmap ran [17:02] seb128, ah, hm [17:03] seb128, in which case, probably not an indicator-datetime bug [17:03] no it's not, we got similar issue on other components [17:03] it's a local issue [17:03] then you can thanks desrt for making code abort on missing schemas [17:04] mterry, are you looking at indicator bugs, right? [17:04] rodrigo_, several people do ;-) [17:04] seb128, :) gsettings aborts on everything [17:05] rodrigo_, but yeah, especially indicator-datetime and appmenu [17:05] everyone likes desrt on that one :) [17:05] yeah, I just wanted to ping someone about https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/745057 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/745061 which were found during a11y testing, in case they needed some help [17:05] Launchpad bug 745057 in unity "[a11y] Panel volume window has some entries not accessible" [Undecided,New] [17:06] API is moving those 2 bugs to indicator-* [17:07] they will be noticed and assigned if they are on the right source [17:07] seb128, yeah, my point is that we moved them to indicator-*^but they are a11y-related, so if they need help with that, to let me know :) [17:08] rodrigo_, oh, ok, thanks! [17:08] jcastro: hi, what do you think about generating new "featured" items for natty? [17:08] jcastro: for softtware-center [17:08] I thought they were going to be automatic or something? [17:14] alex3f: thanks for your fixes, looks fine, I like whitespace one especily, nice and ellegant [17:14] jcastro: not yet :/ [17:14] jcastro: needs server side support [17:14]