[00:52] <sparc> Are we able to host our own Launchpad?  or maybe that's defeating the purpose
[00:52] <twb> sparc: try #launchpad
[00:52] <twb> Short answer: yes, yes.
[00:53] <sparc> oh, thank you, i didn't know about that :)
[03:05] <NoqturnalX> I have returned :P
[03:08] <NoqturnalX> does anyone know if I can put multiple IP's in a acl with squid? Example acl Group1 src 192.168.1.5, 192.168.1.105, 192.168.1.112 ? Would that work?
[04:14] <nuclearmoose> New to Ubuntu. Have ver 10.10 installed on a VPS - anyone here familiar w/ setting a server like this up to run WordPress sites?
[04:15] <nuclearmoose> Have been able to install Apache2, PHP, MySQL, wget
[04:15] <nuclearmoose> Apache server is up and running as is MySQL
[06:23] <stanman246> hi does anyone know of a tool to check if servers are up and running? I'm looking for somerthing like serverup (android app)
[06:24] <stanman246> hi does anyone know of a tool to check if servers are up and running? I'm looking for somerthing like serverup (android app)
[06:25] <rcconf> stanman246: i thought of ping
[06:25] <rcconf> :)
[06:25] <stanman246> lol
[06:26] <stanman246> looking for a tool which does a ping with intervals, so i get a notice when the server is up/down
[06:26] <stanman246> ..
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> stanman246: Nagios?
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> bah, he quit
[06:28] <stanman246> hmm....
[06:28] <stanman246> got some defect hardware here i think...
[06:35] <red2kic> tonyyarusso: You missed your chance!
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> heh
[09:27] <huats> morning
[09:27] <maedox> Hi guys, is someone able to help me with some network setup? I have set up eth3 and eth3:0 on the same card but it always connects outbound with the eth3 IP. How do I make it use both depending on which interface the service is listening on? I'm using JBoss 4.2.2.GA, so maybe it's not Ubuntu's fault?
[09:28] <KB1JWQ> Fix your routing table.
[09:28] <KB1JWQ> And you probably don't want to be running NetworkManager either.
[09:29] <maedox> KB1JWQ: you mean "google it"? ;)
[09:29] <maedox> There's no networkmanager here
[09:30] <KB1JWQ> maedox: Let me rephrase.
[09:30] <KB1JWQ> Are both of the IPs bound to eth3 and eth3:0 on the same network?
[09:30] <maedox> KB1JWQ: ok, I appreciate it.
[09:30] <maedox> Yes, they are.
[09:31] <KB1JWQ> maedox: netstat -rn says what?
[09:31] <KB1JWQ> (pastebin)
[09:31] <maedox> oh, right, I think I get it. three lines all an iface eth3. Hold on... pastebinning.
[09:32] <maedox> http://pastebin.com/qJarfdzA
[09:34] <KB1JWQ> maedox: Yeah, your outbound traffic all dumps out eth3.
[09:35] <maedox> KB1JWQ: what's the tool for chaning the routing table?
[09:35] <KB1JWQ> route
[09:35] <maedox> Never used that. If I add something with that is it persistent or should it rather go in a config file somewhere?
[09:36] <AdvoWork> Hi there, i have paths set like: mirror_lenny = http://cdn.debian.net/debian  for something im using, how would i specify the path for the latest server version?
[09:36] <KB1JWQ> Generally in /etc/network/interfaces maedox
[09:37] <maedox> KB1JWQ: Alright, thanks man, I'll see if I can make it work.
[09:38] <KB1JWQ> Good luck. :-)
[09:40] <mok0> I have written a system that makes a nice notification system for disk quotas. I am looking for other ubuntu-devs that might help take it a step further for inclusion in Ubuntus server infrastructure
[09:50] <yann2> hello! is someone interested by the ubuntu-virt.org domain? I booked it 2 years ago to build a small website on virtualisation on ubuntu, but never managed to find the time/motivation - it s expiring in a month
[09:54] <mok0> yann2: sounds like a nice idea
[09:54] <mok0> yann2: I know that time/motivation thing for ideas... :-(
[09:55] <yann2> want it? :)
[09:56] <yann2> I ll probably just let it expire
[10:54] <craigaa> hi all, I am hoping that someone can help me with the HP Microserver, actually to see if it would be capable of what I want it to do
[10:58] <JanC> craigaa: just tell what you want to do and what the specs of that HP microserver are, then maybe somebody can answer...
[10:58] <craigaa> basically, I want to do Samba and internal IMAP email for 20-25 users
[10:58] <craigaa> it has an AMD Athlon II Neo 1.3Ghz Processor
[10:59] <craigaa> and can take up to 8Gb ECC RAM
[11:00] <craigaa> I would also like to run linux SW RAID 1
[11:00] <craigaa> on 2 x 1Tb SATA HDD
[11:01] <craigaa> I know Ubuntu runs on it (both server and desktop), but I am wondering if I may be overreaching with up to 25 users
[11:02] <JanC> it shouldn't be a problem I think, but also depends on how intensive they use it maybe
[11:04] <JanC> basically, that hardware was high-end some years ago...  ;-)
[11:04] <JanC> well, similar hardware
[11:06] <craigaa> JanC so you don't think the hardware would battle performance wise?
[11:07] <JanC> I see on soem sites they mention "up to 10 users" when running Windows on it
[11:08] <craigaa> :-)
[11:08] <craigaa> thanks
[11:08] <JanC> they don't mention what services those 10 users are supposed to be using etc.
[11:10] <craigaa> but that is Windows so you lose about 1/2 to 1/3 of the performance off the top
[11:10] <craigaa> before you start adding additional services
[11:11] <JanC> I think the main point is how you are going to use it
[11:12] <JanC> they also list 1-10 users with Red Hat
[11:25] <AdvoWork> Hi there, i have paths set like: mirror_lenny = http://cdn.debian.net/debian  for something im using, how would i specify the path for the latest server version?
[12:57] <nick_name> how to blank screen in ubuntu server?
[13:12] <nick_name> hi again
[13:12] <nick_name> is possible to lock screen in ubuntu server?
[13:13] <Pici> nick_name: If you're using screen you can use ^x
[13:13] <Pici> er, ^A x  rather.
[13:13] <remix_tj> or using vlock
[13:14] <nick_name> Pici: not running screen atm
[13:14] <JanC> just log out on all consoles?
[13:15] <nick_name> JanC: it wont lock
[13:15] <JanC> eh?
[13:15] <nick_name> the screen.
[13:15] <JanC> what do you mean by "lock"?
[13:15] <hggdh> Daviey: good morning
[13:16] <nick_name> JanC: like screensaver lock.
[13:16] <JanC> if you are not logged in on any local console, then it is "locked" IMO?
[13:18] <nick_name> JanC: i want to blank the monitor
[13:18] <nick_name> like a blankscreensaver
[13:19] <JanC> it will blank automatically after a period of time?
[13:19] <nick_name> maybe
[13:19] <nick_name> i think
[13:19] <nick_name> how do i change the time of it
[13:19] <Daviey> hggdh, hello!
[13:19] <Pici> Elsewhere, someone suggested: sleep 2; xset dpms force off
[13:27] <nick_name> hm gonna try
[13:28] <nick_name> is possibleto transfer tty2 to tty1?
[13:33] <andygraybeal_> does anyone use openldap server for authentication?
[13:39] <andygraybeal_> i'm gonna try to install openldap and see if i can configure it for authenticating too
[13:39] <pmatulis> andygraybeal_: yes, many people and organizations do
[13:39] <andygraybeal_> cool, i want to follow the instructions @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[13:39] <andygraybeal_> it's a little scary it says the documentation isn't complete for it
[13:39] <andygraybeal_> :)
[13:40] <andygraybeal_> pmatulis, oh specififcally, i meant people in this channel.  if i run into trouble, i would like to be able to get some help.
[13:41] <pmatulis> andygraybeal_: use the server guide
[13:41] <andygraybeal_> ah the server guide, thank you
[13:41] <pmatulis> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/network-authentication.html
[13:42] <andygraybeal_> :)  thanks
[13:43] <phoenixsampras> does ubuntu comes with firewall? how to disable it?
[13:43] <andygraybeal_> i think the firewall is disabled by default.  ufw is the default firewall.
[13:45] <nick_name> it is
[13:45] <nick_name> disabled bydefault
[13:45] <nick_name> .
[13:46] <nick_name> phoenixsampras: type sudo iptables :L
[13:46] <nick_name> phoenixsampras: type sudo iptables -L
[13:51] <pmatulis> phoenixsampras: ufw is a frontend to the netfilter/iptables firewall
[14:00] <phoenixsampras> does ubuntu comes with firewall? how to disable it?
[14:13] <DrD_away> phoenixsampras: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[14:30] <RoAkSoAx> morning all
[14:36] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, your keepalived, I can't upload it until the thaw.
[14:38] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: howdy!! yeah I remembered we are in hard freeze
[14:38] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, I thought it was universe TBH... it was only when i was going some pre-upload checks that i noticed.
[14:38] <Daviey> it's in server-ship aswell.
[14:39] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: yeah it has been there forever :)
[14:44] <soren> Indeed. >5 years.
[14:56] <andygraybeal_> the LDAP Authentication on in the server guide, the example file for setting up the first user is John Doe.  It has his home folder being /home/john ... would i mount the NFS server to the directory server in fstab to get this to work the way I'm thinking?
[14:56] <andygraybeal_> er... i mean if i want the home folder to be on an NFS share
[15:04] <pmatulis> andygraybeal_: ldap will merely provide you with info (user's home is /home/john), you need to do the rest (have /home/john available)
[15:07] <andygraybeal_> pmatulis, good, thank yuo.   how does john exist?  how do i assign him permission to use that folder?
[15:07] <andygraybeal_> i am having a hard time wrapping my head around this.
[15:07] <ivoks> andygraybeal_: throw in pam_mkhomedir
[15:07] <andygraybeal_> ivoks, why doesn't it say that in the general server documentation?
[15:08] <ivoks> those are two different things
[15:08] <andygraybeal_> okay :)  thakn you i wil lread about pam_mkhomedir
[15:08] <ivoks> authentication is one, authorization is seconds and home directory is third
[15:08] <andygraybeal_> does ldap automatically get linked to pam?
[15:08] <ivoks> once you have ldap authentication, then you just have to add pam_mkhomedir module and you are done
[15:09] <andygraybeal_> ah interesting thank yuo. i  will read more about it.
[15:09] <ivoks> can you login as john doe?
[15:09] <andygraybeal_> ivoks, i'm not there yet, i'm still thinking about how i'm gonna end up with a home folder.
[15:09] <andygraybeal_> but let me try, i need to configure my client now.
[15:09] <ivoks> or, subscribe for ubuntu server classroom and you'll learn all about that :)
[15:09] <andygraybeal_> awesome, i will look into it
[15:10] <ivoks> s/classroom/course
[15:10] <pmatulis> ivoks: is that a mailing list?
[15:10] <pmatulis> ivoks: oh, the course
[15:10] <ivoks> pmatulis: nope; http://www.ubuntu.com/support/training
[15:11] <pmatulis> ivoks: you look to be a kerbeors genius
[15:12] <pmatulis> i'm reading the man page for 'kadmin' and it discusses the difference between it and kadmin.local:
[15:12] <pmatulis> "that kadmin.local runs on the master KDC if the database is db2...."
[15:12] <ivoks> pmatulis: where did you get that idea? :D
[15:12] <ivoks> 16:11 < pmatulis> ivoks: you look to be a kerbeors genius
[15:12] <pmatulis> ivoks: he he
[15:13] <pmatulis> kerberos*
[15:13] <andygraybeal_> ivoks, and pmatulis thank you for training link!
[15:13] <ivoks> np
[15:13] <pmatulis> ivoks: anyway, i question the db2 reference
[15:14] <ivoks> i have to go now...
[15:14] <ivoks> take care :)
[15:14] <pmatulis> ivoks: bye!
[15:27] <zul> Daviey: ping cobbler 2.1.0 is imminent so we wont need a git snapshot in universe for natty
[15:33] <Daviey> zul, hurray!
[15:33] <Daviey> zul, Although, if we want the puppet love - that will probably be a delta we are carrying - or a post release snapshot :D
[15:33] <Daviey> zul, We'll have to see what upstream do really.
[15:34] <zul> Daviey: right...im going to look at the patches put forward on friday and probably include the delta but well see
[15:35] <soren> smoser: It seems the current UEC images don't have any config for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces. Is that intentional?
[15:35] <Daviey> zul, landing the patches isn't the challenege... it's if it breaks the damn thing :O
[15:36] <zul> Daviey: right that was an all encompassing statement
[15:37] <smoser> soren, http://paste.ubuntu.com/586890/
[15:37] <smoser> it appears to have /etc/network/interfaces to me
[15:40] <Roasted__> Has anybody integrated an Ubuntu server or clients into the mix of a Windows domain? I'm trying to figure out how I can auto map windows file server shares to a certain place on the Ubuntu desktop to users on the fly when they log in
[15:40] <geekboxjockey> dhcp3 - I have a firewall with 3 subnets (interfaces) that i want to enable a dhcp-relay on to a ubuntu system running dhcp3
[15:40] <geekboxjockey> for some reason right now clients across every subnet are given IPs defined in the first subnet declaration
[15:41] <geekboxjockey> how do i enable the dhcp3 service to be smart about assignment through a dhcp relay that is servicing 3 interfaces and presumably different subnets
[15:42] <soren> smoser: Spectacular.
[15:42] <soren> smoser: Might something be overwriting that during boot or something?
[15:43] <smoser> well i took that from a booted instance
[15:43] <smoser> so, probably not
[15:43] <smoser> i've not made any changes in that code maybe ever
[15:44] <soren> smoser: I see that same interfaces when I'm looking at a clean image... I wonder what's going on here.
[15:44] <soren> smoser: thanks. I must be barking up the wrong tree.
[15:45] <patdk-wk> Roasted__, isn't that what libpam-mount is for?
[15:46] <binBASH> anyone tested sheepdog yet?
[15:46] <binBASH> http://www.osrg.net/sheepdog/
[15:47] <Roasted__> patdk-lap, I have no idea. I just debuted a lab of ubuntu thin clients and its proving to be a MAJOR headache already.
[15:47] <Roasted__> patdk-lap, I just need a way for students to log in and BAM theire share is connected to /home/Bill Gates/Documents
[15:47] <Roasted__> where Documents = \\fileserver\classof2011\bill_gates
[15:48] <patdk-wk> I have used libpam-mount before, for mounting on user login, not with samba shares, but should be no different
[15:48] <Roasted__> patdk-lap, based on your experience, do you think libpam-mount would allow me to boot a computer, log in as 5 different users, and each user get THEIR own share on the server mounted?
[15:49] <patdk-wk> as long as you don't mount them all in the SAME place
[15:49] <Roasted__> right
[15:49] <Roasted__> but how can I set it as a wildcard
[15:49] <Roasted__> let me gather my thoughts...
[15:49] <Roasted__> If I log in as steve_jobs, I want \\server\students\classof2011\steve_jobs to mount to /home/steve_jobs/Documents
[15:50] <Roasted__> but if he logs out and bill gates logs in, I want the SAME thing, but bill_gates instead of steve_jobs
[15:50] <patdk-wk> I fail to see the issue
[15:50] <Roasted__> This needs to be based on user login. NOT rebooting and mounting at startup.
[15:50] <Roasted__> so you think it'll fly?
[15:50] <patdk-wk> like I said, libpam-mount, NOT fstab
[15:50] <Roasted__> I just never heard of libpam-mount. ever. so I wanted to make sure :P
[15:50] <patdk-wk> did you even bother to read what libpam-mount is?
[15:50] <zul> Daviey: damn it looks rh specific again
[15:50] <Roasted__> I'm googling for it now.
[15:52] <Roasted__> patdk-lap, is libpam-mount just a package or an actual gui app?
[15:52] <soren> smoser: Argh, yeah, totally barking up the wrong tree.
[15:52] <Daviey> zul, i saw the .ks patch
[15:52] <patdk-wk> package, that would be why it starts with lib :)
[15:52] <patdk-wk> apt-cache show libpam-mount
[15:53] <zul> Daviey: bah!
[15:54] <ScottK> Nice: Welcome to Ubuntu Natty (development branch) (GNU/Linux 2.6.38-7-generic i686)
[15:55] <geekboxjockey> do i need to create one VLAN per subnet i wish to assign IP addresses via DHCP to?
[15:57] <Roasted__> patdk-lap, sorry I'm drawing a bit of a blank. how do I get started with setting it up? Is this based on .profile?
[15:57] <patdk-wk> it's based on pam :)
[15:57] <Roasted__> man I need a drink...
[15:58] <Roasted__> patdk-lap, is there a guide anywhere that you know of about setting this up?
[15:59] <patdk-wk> http://pam-mount.sourceforge.net/doc.php
[15:59] <geekboxjockey> do i need a vlan to serve multiple subnets from one interface with DHCP on unbuntu?
[16:05] <Roasted__> patdk-lap, no examples I take it?
[16:05] <patdk-wk> there are examples all over those pages
[16:06] <patdk-wk> if you mean, cut and paste for your specific issue, doubt it
[16:08] <andygraybeal_> what is the course on openldap (directory authentication?)
[16:08] <Roasted__> patdk-lap, yeah, I'm just a little panicked to get it running and sick as ever, so my focus level at the moment is not good.
[16:09] <Roasted__> patdk-lap, this sound right? <volume user="user" fstype="smbfs" server="krueger" path="public" mountpoint="/home/user/krueger" />
[16:10] <patdk-wk> remove the user= part
[16:10] <zul> whee...bug triaging storm coming soon to a mailbox to you
[16:10] <patdk-wk> that means only user named user, will mount it
[16:10] <Roasted__> I thought smbfs was old and not used anymore?
[16:11] <patdk-wk> cifs
[16:11] <Roasted__> cifs is the old one or the replacement?
[16:13] <patdk-wk> wouldn't you want mountpoint="~/krueger"
[16:13] <Roasted__> What is krueger in this instance? Is this the name of the file server or the user?
[16:13]  * patdk-wk notes the, server="krueger"
[16:14] <Roasted__> so that's just the comp name of it
[16:14] <Roasted__> the mountpoint concerns me
[16:14] <Roasted__> /home/user/krueger
[16:14] <Roasted__> I need the "user" to be whoever the user is that's logged in
[16:14] <Roasted__> Can I wildcard it?
[16:14] <patdk-wk> you could
[16:14] <patdk-wk> but why not just use ~
[16:15] <Roasted__> good thought
[16:15] <Roasted__> the ~ would apply to whatever user in at the time?
[16:22] <Roasted__> I'm also curious what path=public means
[16:23] <zul> who is running the meeting today?
[16:23] <patdk-wk> the share name
[16:23]  * patdk-wk votes ubottu runs it :)
[16:23] <Roasted__> well the share name is going to change I would think, since each user = share
[16:24] <patdk-wk> path=%(USER)
[16:24] <Roasted__> thats a wildcard?
[16:24] <Roasted__> here's the part that confuses me
[16:25] <Roasted__> I work for a school, so we have 4 folders. //storage/students/classof2011 and 12 and 13 and 14
[16:25] <Roasted__> and within each is the individual student shares
[16:25] <Roasted__> so I want a way to mount //storage/students/classof2011/steve_jobs to steve_jobs, since hes a senior, and //storage/students/classof2014/bill_gates to bill gates since he's a freshman
[16:25] <Roasted__> but... automagically.
[16:25] <Roasted__> Can libpam differentiate between the 4 folders?
[16:26] <Roasted__> the classof folders?
[16:26] <patdk-wk> how could it? it only knows the user and password of the person attempting to login
[16:27] <Roasted__> could I at least mount //storage/students so when they open their home folder they see Class of 2011, Class of 2012, Class of 2013, and Class of 2014 there?
[16:27] <patdk-wk> I dunno, but I guess you could attempt to mount it 4 times, once for each different path, and the one that works will stick?
[16:28] <raphink> pam has modules that can check for the existence of files
[16:28] <raphink> such as pam_listfile.so
[16:28] <Roasted__> where is that file located?
[16:28] <raphink> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/sag-pam_listfile.html
[16:28] <raphink> not sure if that would help
[16:28] <raphink> pam can do a lot of things if you find the right module
[16:28] <raphink> or if you code it ;-)
[16:29] <raphink> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/Linux-PAM_SAG.html
[16:29] <Roasted__> I've never set up pam before, so I'm kind of new to this.
[16:29] <Roasted__> I'm just *really* stuck and trying to find a quick solution.
[16:29] <raphink> sorry i'm just getting in the conversation, what are you trying to achieve exactly?
[16:29] <Roasted__> I work for a school district, and I just debuted a lab of LTSP Ubuntu thin clients.
[16:29] <raphink> right
[16:29] <Roasted__> The students are getting confused, heavily, by the fact their "Documents" folder doesn't have their stuff.
[16:30] <Roasted__> And this is because there are links on the desktop that smb:// to the class of folders
[16:30] <Roasted__> class of 2011, 12, 13, 14
[16:30] <Roasted__> and they work out of there
[16:30] <Roasted__> so I'd like to put links to those shares within their documents folder.
[16:30] <Roasted__> without the need for authentication
[16:30] <raphink> how do you currently mount these folders?
[16:30] <Roasted__> so that way steve jobs, who's a freshman, can log in and bam - he has his stuff in his Documents home folder
[16:30] <Roasted__> I just have links on the desktop
[16:30] <Roasted__> they double click, type in their password, and it uathenticates
[16:30] <Roasted__> then they browse to their folder.
[16:31] <Roasted__> The confusing part is the fact that they see their home directory and think that's where their files are, when it's not.
[16:31] <Roasted__> So I'm trying to help them out by automating... everything... a little bit.
[16:31] <raphink> hmmm alright
[16:31] <raphink> let me try to get this straight
[16:31] <raphink> you mount the smb mountpoint in each homedir
[16:31] <raphink> but it contains all classes folders
[16:32] <Roasted__> currently it doesnt mount anywhere
[16:32] <raphink> so each users has class2011, class2012, etc.
[16:32] <Roasted__> it just kind of mounts when they log in
[16:32] <Roasted__> I'd LIKE it to go to their home folder
[16:32] <kirkland> any preseed wizards around?
[16:32] <Roasted__> what would be AWESOME is to get their share to mount to /home/*USER*/Documents
[16:32] <raphink> kirkland, not a wizard, but ask anyway :-)
[16:32] <Roasted__> but I doubt I can pinpoint it that much
[16:32] <kirkland> raphink: it's not me, it's aliguori
[16:33] <raphink> let him ask then :-)
[16:33] <kirkland> hmm, seems he's in #ubuntu-cloud, not here
[16:33] <patdk-wk> roasted, why not? that should be easy
[16:33] <patdk-wk> the only issue is the class20xx part :)
[16:34] <Roasted__> patdk-lap, you think it'd be easy?
[16:34] <Roasted__> because I think it looks hard. :/
[16:35] <andygraybeal_> i'm reading the 10.04 server guide under LDAP Authentication, under ACL, it says: Authentication requires access to the password field, that should be not accessible by default.   Does this mean that I need to modify my configuration?  Just underneath that sentence it gives me an example of ldapsearch; not modify, so I'm confused.
[16:35] <raphink> I'd go about mounting the dir when they log in
[16:35] <patdk-wk>  <volume fstype="smbfs" server="fs-students" path="classof20xx/$(USER)" mountpoint="~/Documents" />
[16:35] <raphink> using a login script
[16:35] <patdk-wk> login script would do the same thing
[16:35] <raphink> right
[16:35] <raphink> the problem is the xx ;-)
[16:35] <patdk-wk> but you could check if the userpath exists for each one first
[16:35] <patdk-wk> but that *still* wouldn't help if user exists in multible ones
[16:36] <Roasted__> patdk-lap, my server name is storage, and the full path is //storage/students/classofxx/student_accounts
[16:36] <patdk-wk> and you Loose the password then to auth with
[16:36] <Roasted__> with that said...
[16:36] <Roasted__> wouldn't it be...
[16:36] <Roasted__> <volume fstype="smbfs" server="storage" path="students/classof20xx/$(USER)" mountpoint="~/Documents" />
[16:36] <patdk-wk> yep
[16:37] <patdk-wk> I wonder if: <volume fstype="smbfs" server="storage" path="students" mountpoint="~/Documents" />
[16:37] <patdk-wk> would be *good enough*
[16:37] <Roasted__> and if I just wanted to mount all 4 of the class folders in Documents, wouldn't I just use path="students"
[16:37] <raphink> Roasted__, how about making links on your filer?
[16:37] <Roasted__> My ubuntu server is on the domain. Would PAM look at those credentials and authenticate these users to these locations?
[16:38] <raphink> so that //storage/students/all/$USER points to //storage/students/classofxx/$USER for each $USER
[16:38] <raphink> that would solve your issue
[16:38] <patdk-wk> if it's a samba server
[16:38] <patdk-wk> dunno if that would work in win2008
[16:38] <Roasted__> It's a windows server
[16:38] <raphink> :S
[16:39] <Roasted__> don't think it would?
[16:40] <Roasted__> where would I put this <volume...> entry to test it?
[16:41] <patdk-wk> in the pam-mount.conf file
[16:42] <Roasted__> no file found. where's it supposed to be located?
[16:42] <patdk-wk> have you even installed libpam-mount yet?
[16:42] <Roasted__> yep
[16:42] <Roasted__> just searched filesystem for it
[16:42] <Abhijit> hi guys
[16:43] <Abhijit> is httpd and apache are two different softwares?
[16:43] <Abhijit> or if those two are same then is it that in old apache the path for httpd.conf was different and now in new apache2 its different?
[16:43] <Abhijit> help
[16:43] <kpettit> what is the keyboard shortcut to get to the terminal window.  I used to do "cntrl + alt + f1" but that' doesn't work with the newer version of ubuntu
[16:44] <Abhijit> kpettit, ctrl alt t
[16:44] <kpettit> Abhijit, ah cool, didn't know that one.  But what I ment is the terminal outside of the GUI.  The console
[16:44] <patdk-wk> Roasted__, /etc/security/pam_mount.conf.xml
[16:45] <kpettit> Sometimes my GUI locks up and I need to get to the console to kill things.  But the command I used to use doesn't work anymore
[16:45] <Roasted__> patdk-lap, got it. Do I just tag this at the end?
[16:46] <patdk-wk> no, it's xml
 is httpd and apache are two different softwares?
[16:46] <Abhijit> <Abhijit> or if those two are same then is it that in old apache the path for httpd.conf was different and now in new apache2 its different?
[16:46]  * patdk-wk wonders what the env looks like when a user logs in
[16:46] <Roasted__> where doe sthis entry need to go then? under volume definitions?
[16:47] <kpettit> Abhijit, I know in Centos it's httpd and in Ubuntu it's apache.  THey are the same app just different config setup
[16:48] <Abhijit> kpettit, oh i see. in college we have old version of red hat. and now here i have ubuntu. so the same paths are not working
[16:48] <Abhijit> :(
[16:48] <kpettit> I've got a centos and ubuntu machine.  Apache works the same way, they just name the directories different and chop up the config files and directories in different ways.
[16:48] <kpettit> Apache is kind of a beast.  People try to tame it differently
[16:49] <Abhijit> yerah
[16:50] <Roasted__> patdk-lap, I take it I AM to edit this file, right?
[16:58] <raphink> Abhijit, apache is an httpd
[16:58] <raphink> there are others
[16:58] <Abhijit> raphink, yeah
[16:58] <raphink> httpd means http server, and apache is one http server
[16:58] <raphink> lighttpd or nginx are other examples of httpd
[16:59] <raphink> usually, when httpd.conf refers to apache's configuration though
[16:59] <raphink> and in Debian and Ubuntu, this configuration is located in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[17:02] <Abhijit> raphink, yeah
[17:15] <Roasted__> raphink, can you give me a hand with this pam thing still?
[17:15] <Roasted__> There's just some areas I'm unclear on.
[17:16] <raphink> which areas?
[17:16] <Roasted__> Well I have the <volume... etc> section written out the way I think I need it
[17:16] <Roasted__> <volume fstype="smbfs" server="storage01" path="students" mountpoint="/home/%(USER)/Documents" />
[17:17] <raphink> the path doesn't take in consideration your class issue though
[17:18] <Roasted__> that's fine, if I can at least get the 4 Class folders in Home/DomainUserLoggedInAtTheTime/Documents I'd be good
[17:18] <Roasted__> I think
[17:18] <Roasted__> I mean it's worth a shot
[17:18] <Roasted__> if studenst go to documents and see Class of folders, they'll know where to go
[17:18] <Roasted__> Do I just add that in the pam_mount.conf.xml file?
[17:19] <raphink> I'm not familiar with pam_mount, but I think this is what you need to put
[17:19] <raphink> from patdk-wk's comments
[17:21] <Roasted__> this is what you need to put... as in you think what I have is right?
[17:21] <raphink> I think so, yes
[17:21] <raphink> did you try it?
[17:22] <Roasted__> hold on a second
[17:22] <Roasted__> am I to paste that line I pasted into the conf.xml file?
[17:22] <Roasted__> and ifs o, where?
[17:22] <Roasted__> I don't want to just be guessing and mess something up.
[17:22] <raphink> patdk-wk gave you the location of the file earlier, didn't he?
[17:22] <Roasted__> yes
[17:22] <Roasted__> but WHERE in the file
[17:22] <raphink> ah
[17:23] <Roasted__> screw it, I'll just try it
[17:23] <Roasted__> testing on my laptop so I dont fry my production lab I just set up :P
[17:23] <Roasted__> brb
[17:27] <Roasted_> yeah that uh
[17:27] <Roasted_> did nothing
[17:27] <Roasted_> :(
[17:45] <Roasted_> anybody familiar with configuring pam?
[17:46] <raphink> Roasted_, did you check with the documentation?
[17:46] <Roasted_> raphink, of course.
[17:46] <Roasted_> It's all I've been reading for the last hour.
[17:46] <Roasted_> And while it goes into grave detail about it, it's missing some key simple steps with setting it up.
[17:46] <Roasted_> Which is extremely frustrating...
[17:47] <raphink> :S
[17:48] <Roasted_> raphink, what was your idea about it?
[17:48] <Roasted_> about getting the login thing to work
[17:48] <Roasted_> I'm desperate for anything. I just need it to fly..
[17:48] <raphink> well as far as classxx goes, my idea was to use a symlink on the filer, but it's a windows machine
[17:49] <Roasted_> ignore classxx
[17:49] <raphink> and then I didn't know about pam_mount so I'd have made a login script to mount the samba share
[17:49] <Roasted_> if I can get all 4 classes to show up within Documents, I'd be fine
[17:49] <Roasted_> how would the login script authenticate
[17:49] <raphink> but then it would ask for the password, so pam_mount is nicer
[17:49] <Roasted_> gah
[17:49] <Roasted_> stab me
[17:49] <Roasted_> this is so frustrating
[17:49] <raphink> ;-)
[17:49] <Roasted_> it already asks me 3 times for a password
[17:49] <Roasted_> it's obnoxious
[17:50] <Roasted_> so obnoxious I wouldn't be surprised if they'd pull this ubuntu lab out, which I DO NOT want
[17:50] <Roasted_> so I need to make this work
[17:50] <raphink> you mean pam_mount asks for a password?
[17:50] <Roasted_> no
[17:50] <Roasted_> my current setup does
[17:50] <Roasted_> many times
[17:50] <Roasted_> it's ridiculous
[17:50] <raphink> ok
[17:50] <Roasted_> pam_mount I don't even have working because I have no flipping idea how to set it up. All of the configs I see tell me what entries to use, but I have no idea how to structure them in the config file.
[17:50] <Roasted_> There's no examples that say, if you're trying to do this, then set it up like this, etc.
[17:54] <raphink> Roasted_, you read this right http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man5/pam_mount.conf.5.html ?
[17:56] <raphink> Roasted_, did you try with /students instead of students ?
[17:57] <patdk-wk> might help some: http://www.redhat.com/archives/k12osn/2006-October/msg00262.html
[17:59] <Roasted_> I did not use /students
[18:00] <Roasted_> raphink, yeah thats the one link I was reading
[18:00] <Roasted_> one of the many
[18:02] <Roasted_> patdk-lap, not really sure that link offers much help. It sounds like somebody asking hte same question I am with no answer.
[18:03] <raphink> the guy did say the dev was helpful
[18:05] <Roasted_> sigh
[18:05] <Roasted_> I'm just not reading anything here that I can use
[18:50] <RoyK> hi all. I ssh into this server, and starting something like xterm works fine, but when I try to start firefox, I get 'X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.' - any idea what might be wrong?
[18:52] <thesheff17> RoyK: are you using ssh -X username@host?
[18:53] <RoyK> as I said, xterm works
[18:53] <RoyK> forwarding x11 is set in the config
[18:53] <RoyK> simple X stuff works well
[18:56] <thesheff17> RoyK: weird...I just ran it from a 10.04 desktop to a 10.04 server no problems. There is a frame buffer that should be on the server apt-get install xvfb
[18:57] <RoyK> no need for X on the server - I just want to start X apps from it
[18:58] <thesheff17> RoyK: all I do is ssh -X username@host then firefox works fine.
[18:59] <RoyK> http://pastebin.com/W2vqiVh2
[18:59] <RoyK> xeyes/xterm/etc works
[18:59] <RoyK> not firefox
[18:59] <RoyK> server is 10.04.2 LTS AMD64
[19:00] <genii-around> Some Mac clients need -Y instead of -X in the ssh connect line
[19:01] <RoyK> genii-around: tried that as well, no change, also, when it works for xterm, it should work for firefox, no?
[19:05] <genii-around> RoyK: You would think so, yes. Maybe no Xauthority file?
[19:06] <thesheff17> RoyK: X11Forwarding yes You have this in /etc/ssh/sshd_config file?
[19:06] <RoyK> genii-around: yes, it's there
[19:06] <RoyK> thesheff17: seriously - I told you x11 forwarding works
[19:06] <thesheff17> RoyK: not sure why term would work and not firefox but I have no issue.
[19:06] <RoyK> xeyes/xterm uses x11 tunneling
[19:09] <genii-around> RoyK: Is there a local copy of it running already? ( firefox )
[19:09] <RoyK> nope
[19:13] <genii-around> RoyK: Perhaps try calling firefox with the swith of --no-remote
[19:13] <RoyK> no change
[19:13] <genii-around> Hm. It's a puzzler.
[19:13] <RoyK> that is - with --no-remote, it only gave me 'X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.' once
[19:14] <RoyK> without it, the error message came twice
[19:21] <DrDetroit> When I download and install dhcp3-server, does it by default turn itself on?
[19:23] <RoyK> DrDetroit: you need to configure it first
[19:23] <RoyK> DrDetroit: see /etc/dhcpd.conf (iirc)
[19:24] <DrDetroit> thanks, just tying to think of all the things i need to do for making a replacement for my main box
[19:39] <mathiaz> kirkland: hey!
[19:39] <kirkland> mathiaz: yo
[19:40] <mathiaz> kirkland: how is the update-motd system working again?
[19:40] <kirkland> mathiaz: it's compiled into pam_motd
[19:40] <mathiaz> kirkland: I'd like to add specific information to the motd on our ec2 instances
[19:40] <kirkland> mathiaz: sure ...
[19:41] <kirkland> mathiaz: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/en/man5/update-motd.5.html
[19:41] <mathiaz> kirkland: so that we can figure out in which environment we are (dev, staging or prod)
[19:41] <mathiaz> kirkland: great - thanks for the pointer
[19:41] <kirkland> mathiaz: basically, you need to drop an executable in /etc/update-motd.d
[19:41] <kirkland> mathiaz: name it NN-word
[19:41] <kirkland> mathiaz: where NN is a number
[19:41] <kirkland> mathiaz: it'll be executed by run-parts
[19:42] <kirkland> mathiaz: see http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/en/man8/run-parts.8.html for ordering
[19:42] <mathiaz> kirkland: cool I'll look at it
[19:49] <EtienneG> I just noticed how big the server team got.  I skip *one* UDS, and you guys basically double the team?  I am positively shocked!
[19:49] <EtienneG> o/ mathiaz
[19:50] <mathiaz> EtienneG: o/
[20:09] <kirkland> mathiaz: sure thing;  let me know if you have *any* trouble with it
[21:14] <jfb_h20> what's a quick way to tell how a mounted disk is formatted?
[21:15] <_ruben> can a not-formatted disk even *be* mounted?
[21:15] <jfb_h20> no, I want to know if it is ntfs, ext2/3/4 or fat32...
[21:16] <_ruben> mount will tell ya
[21:16] <jfb_h20> ah, perfect. thanks.
[21:16]  * _ruben needs to learn to read .. reading 'if' instead of 'how' ...
[21:17] <_ruben> braincells trying to be smart i guess
[21:23] <Disconnect> how do i pass info to partman for mkfs.ext4? (need a -lot- of inodes.)
[21:23] <Disconnect> preseeding partman that is
[21:33] <zul> hallyn: lxc support in openstack has landed in trunk as of 15 minutes ago, fyi
[21:34] <hallyn> zul: awesome
[21:34] <zul> hallyn: thanks for the help!
[21:35] <hallyn> zul: my pleasure, thanks for doing it :)
[21:35] <zul> hallyn: my pleasure
[21:35] <hallyn> now i'm really enjoying using my new lxc-clone and lxc-lvm-clone
[21:35] <hallyn> i need to kick those to upstream nad see if they can integrate them
[22:18] <azizLIGHTS> if i want to rehost youtube videos on my own httpd, what should i do?
[22:20] <SpamapS> azizLIGHTS: do you have the right to re-distribute said videos?
[22:20] <azizLIGHTS> yes
[22:21] <SpamapS> azizLIGHTS: then you would just host the .flv file on your httpd
[22:22] <azizLIGHTS> i dont want to download the flv from my httpd , i want to see it streaming in a aplayer on my httpd
[22:22] <adam_g> hallyn: lxc-clone/lvm-clone? does that clone via lvm CoW snapshot?
[22:22] <azizLIGHTS> so how can i do that
[22:22] <hallyn> right
[22:23] <hallyn> adam_g: right
[22:23] <azizLIGHTS> SpamapS: so how can i do that
[22:23] <SpamapS> azizLIGHTS: put them in the DocumentRoot of the webserver
[22:23] <SpamapS> azizLIGHTS: I think by default that is /var/www
[22:24] <azizLIGHTS> SpamapS: yes, but that makes my browser download the flv. i want to see it in a player with pause/play, buffer
[22:24] <azizLIGHTS> skip seek
[22:25] <azizLIGHTS> what is that thing called that does that
[22:25] <raphink_> then you need to develop a web page that embeds the videos
[22:25] <azizLIGHTS> somebody already made it i bet for free, what is it called>? im not sure of name so i cannot google it
[22:25] <raphink_> or instead of using the flv, try using mpeg or even webm, and embeds them using HTML5
[22:25] <azizLIGHTS> oh
[22:25] <raphink_> that depends on your users, too
[22:26] <azizLIGHTS> thats nice for chrome i think
[22:26] <azizLIGHTS> i am the user btw
[22:26] <raphink_> since there's still quite a few people using old browsers that don't support HTML5 + webm
[22:26] <raphink_> if you're the only user, then you can choose whatever technology fits  you ;-)
[22:26] <raphink_> so go for the easiest one, which is probably HTML5+webm
[22:27] <azizLIGHTS> ok i like ur idea but i also want to try those flash players theyare nice
[22:27] <azizLIGHTS> you know any i can use on my server
[22:28] <raphink_> I've never done anything with a flash video player
[22:28] <raphink_> you can search for one that is free, but I can't recommend you one
[22:28] <azizLIGHTS> i dont know what to call this technology, on server side
[22:28] <azizLIGHTS> flv player for server lol... what is it called
[22:28] <adam_g> hallyn: oh. awesome to hear, similar functionality was on my libvirt/virt-manager wishlist for a long time
[22:28] <raphink_> search for free flash video player
[22:28] <azizLIGHTS> yea... i get vlc
[22:28] <raphink_> like http://flowplayer.org/
[22:28] <azizLIGHTS> when i do that
[22:29] <raphink_> then you don't use the same google as I do ;-)
[22:29] <JanC> VLC *can* be used as a streaming server if you want  ☺
[22:29] <azizLIGHTS> in cli?
[22:29] <raphink_> indeed it can JanC
[22:29] <hallyn> adam_g: I'll put it in my ppa tonight or tomorrow, and fwd the patches to the list to see if we can get it upstream.
[22:29] <raphink_> and it's even good at it :-)
[22:33] <azizLIGHTS> hmmm ok guys thanks for info
[22:33] <azizLIGHTS> ill experiment with html5 chrome, webm, vlc, flowplayer
[23:30] <MetaJake> can anyone recommend the size to make a virtual drive for experimenting with ubuntu server, including lamp, python and some python web frameworks possibly?
[23:33]  * Patrickdk just always does 8gigs, cause that is the vmware default
[23:34] <thesheff17> MetaJake: I usually use 20GB...but depends on db size...web content etc.
[23:35] <MetaJake> ok thanks for the recommendations, all