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chadadavisjibel, I asked skaet and heard you were the person to ask about an amd64+mac category on the ISO tracker. I'm testing the amd64+mac images now and assumed that these would go in their own category, distinct from 'amd64' ?11:08
jibelchadadavis, amd64+mac is the image to test. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com//daily-live/20110329/natty-desktop-amd64+mac.iso11:11
jibelchadadavis, I'm adding the missing images to the tracker.11:11
chadadavisjibel, great. Thanks.11:11
jibelara, when I add a new product to the tracker, is there a way to add the same testcases than another product, or do I need to readd the testcases one by one for each new product ?11:54
arajibel, not through the web interface, I am afraid11:59
arajibel, you can hack something in the database, though11:59
jibelara, I was afraid too. I did the insert directly and that's ok. thanks.12:00
jibelchadadavis, the images are on the tracker now.12:27
chadadavisjibel, great. Thanks. I'm working on them now.12:28
jibelchadadavis, thanks12:28
* pedro_ starting ubuntu dvd i38613:06
pedro_and alt13:06
jibelpedro_ and all, hi13:27
jibelhold on there is a respin coming13:27
pedro_hello jibel13:29
pedro_ok13:29
hggdhjibel: did we spin another image for server? Suddenly Jenkins restarted...13:56
hggdhand good morning, jibel, pedro_13:57
hggdhduh. of course we did13:57
jibelhggdh, yes we did, good morning13:59
pedro_good morning hggdh14:01
marjogood morning all14:10
marjogood day all14:10
pedro_brb14:11
charlie-tcaGood morning14:14
jibelGood morning charlie-tca14:15
charlie-tcajibel: are you respinning all the images?14:34
jibelcharlie-tca, yes14:34
charlie-tcaThanks.14:34
charlie-tcastarting Xubuntu 386 upgrade test14:34
jibelcharlie-tca, new ubiquity amongst others14:35
charlie-tcaGot to be done, then.14:35
charlie-tcabut that should not affect upgrades, right?14:35
jibelcharlie-tca, upgrades are not affected14:36
jibelif somebody can help with wubi upgrade, you're welcome.14:40
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jibelcjwatson, Riddell when installing kubuntu (20110329) I get a failure "cannot stat '/etc/default/keyboard'" then the installation stops. Is it a known or a new bug ?14:57
jibelRiddell, bug 744944 occured during upgrade14:58
cjwatsonfull logs please?14:58
ubot4`Launchpad bug 744944 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "kdm is restarted during the upgrade to Natty . The user is disconnected from the session (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74494414:58
jibelcjwatson, one second please, I'm slow with a US keymap on french keyboard15:00
skaetjibel, have not reset the upgrades since its believed the changes made overnight are unlikely to affected them, but if time permits when the other testing is done, we may want to redo them.   Will reset the ones not started so far.15:10
charlie-tcaCan we have xubuntu upgrades back? They should not be affected either.15:12
cjwatsonagreed15:15
hggdhjibel: another respin?15:29
hggdhjibel: if so, we have to cancel the current Jenkins jobs15:29
davmor2jibel: when things calm down a bit I'll try and test my laptop wifi issue on live cd if I get the chance15:34
cjwatsonhggdh: the current batch should be more or less final, touch wood15:35
cjwatsonbarring showstopper issues discovered in QA15:35
jibelskaet, agreed15:35
skaetcharlie-tca, cjwatson - Xubuntu upgrades back available.15:37
charlie-tcata15:37
charlie-tcaThank you15:37
hggdhcjwatson: thanks. I will let jenkins go until .2 gets available, then I will cancel any remaining .1 test15:38
bdmurraycjwatson: should we be using ubiquity -d more often when we are testing?15:47
jibelcjwatson, bug 74501415:55
ubot4`Launchpad bug 745014 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu Desktop failed to install (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74501415:55
cjwatsonUbuntu server, alternate, desktop posted15:55
jibelsorry for the poor title15:55
cjwatsonbdmurray: wouldn't hurt but best not to use it *all* the time15:56
bdmurraycjwatson: right because of the password appearing?15:56
cjwatsonand it'll be a bit slower, and it means you have to start it from a terminal (or else use debug-ubiquity on the kernel command line)15:56
charlie-tcajibel: you got different colors than I do on the "High-contrast" install. Mine are dark grey with white text, and all visible16:10
charlie-tcaI get black text in those white boxes16:10
jibelcharlie-tca, I don't know, this is a live session with the latest iso16:11
charlie-tcaweird16:11
charlie-tcaI ran it on three different systems, with ati and intel graphics, and got black text there each time16:11
charlie-tcabut I agree, it is a problem16:12
jibelcharlie-tca, I'm trying on a real machine16:14
Riddellhmm, archive mirror is slow16:18
jibelcharlie-tca, same problem on my taketimetohaveacupofcoffee netbook16:25
jibelcharlie-tca, the theme is 'High Contrast Inverse'16:27
charlie-tcaYou started at the cd menu with F5?16:32
charlie-tcaI will try it again16:32
jibelcharlie-tca, no when I boot using F5 I get the large fonts not the inverted theme and the situation is not better, the buttons are out of the screen.16:39
charlie-tcaokay, that's why I couldn't reproduce it then. Will try from the live desktop16:40
cjwatsonit would really help if somebody with a11y experience were contributing to the installer ...17:24
charlie-tca+117:25
cjwatsonargh, managed to deadlock a bunch of processes on my DVD drive17:38
* cjwatson hates media17:38
njinHello, is Migration Assistant disabled ?19:58
skaetjibel, around?20:00
bdmurrayskaet: is there something I can help with?20:10
skaetbdmurray,  can you add some more ec2 images to the iso tester?20:10
skaetlooks like we've now got northeast asia ones20:11
bdmurrayskaet: its been a while but probably20:11
cjwatsonKubuntu alternate, Kubuntu desktop, and Kubuntu mobile i386 posted20:11
skaetthe ones there right now should be explicitly labeled southeast.20:11
njinsomeone know if Migration Assistant is disabled ? Thanks20:12
charlie-tcanjin: to the best of my knowledge, it is enabled. It was last night, at least.20:17
njincharlie-tca: hello, i cannot see it installing just now20:19
charlie-tcaIs windows on that computer?20:20
njinno, only ubuntu, other two, seem strange that don't see nothing, one is surely used20:20
njinit don't appear as window20:21
charlie-tcaMigration Assistant only works with windows20:21
charlie-tcaIt was not set up for Ubuntu to Ubuntu20:21
njin?, not with Ubuntu ?20:21
charlie-tcano, I found that out testing alpha320:22
* skaet -> get lunch, biab20:23
njinou, then now is clear, thanks20:23
charlie-tcaYou are welcome20:23
njinI go on testing Kubuntu then20:24
jibelskaet, around.20:40
skaetjibel,  ap-northeast images new on the ec2 manifest.   What numbers to assign them?20:41
skaetalso, existing ap images should be explicitly denoted southeast in the iso tracker.  :)20:42
skaetbdmurray was starting to look at it, but not sure how far he got.20:42
bdmurrayskaet: not far I had a call sorry20:43
skaetbdmurray, understand,  all multiplexing quite a bit today.20:44
jibelskaet, looking20:45
charlie-tcaXubuntu upgrade, one minor bug, bug 74520720:57
ubot4`Launchpad bug 745207 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "Upgrade from 10.10 to Natty, there is only one workspace (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74520720:57
charlie-tcauser can add more easily, but they should not disappear on upgrade20:57
jibelskaet, okay, sorry for being slow, blame the tracker.21:31
jibelskaet, I renamed to southeast the following products ami-ca3b4298, ami-cc3b429e, ami-d03b4282, ami-183b424a21:31
jibeland added:21:31
jibelap-northeast-1 32-bit instance ami-7cfd577d21:31
jibelap-northeast-1 64-bit instance ami-aafd57ab21:31
jibelap-northeast-1 32-bit ebs ami-eafd57eb21:31
jibelap-northeast-1 64-bit ebs ami-f0fd57f121:31
jibelskaet, I'll add the testcases now, .....21:32
skaetthanks jibel21:32
jibelskaet, testcases are there too now.21:40
skaetjibel,  great.    Will let smoser know.21:41
charlie-tcaMade it back. New keyboard connected. Apparently unplugged the wrong thing21:41
jibelskaet, k, please double check, between ap, 32bit, i386, instance, ebs ... I may have lost the north ;-)21:42
skaetjibel,  will do.   Have to update the post-amis script so, will give them a good stare.21:44
skaet:)21:44
patrickmwhas anyone had success running a live session with persistence?  If so, can you please describe the procedure you followed?22:50
patrickmwjibel ^22:51
jibelpatrickmw, burn an image to a memory stick, boot to a live session, write some stuff to the key, e.g in your home directory, reboot and check that what you've written is still there22:52
patrickmwjibel: the test case describes adding a "persistent" param to the linux boot line.  does that seem correct?22:53
jibelpatrickmw, I don't think it's still needed and the testcase needs an update.22:57
patrickmwjibel: ack22:57
skaetjibel,   looks like arm images and iso tracker may need some tweaking23:13
jibelGrueMaster, go ahead, which images with which labels ?23:13
GrueMasterThe Ubuntu Netbook Armel+[omap3|omap4] images should be Ubuntu Preinstalled instead.23:14
GrueMasterI don't thinkk the netbook testcases are mapped properly since they were older (not sure).23:14
GrueMasterI really do not understand how admin iso.qa.u.c works.23:15
GrueMasterNone of them have correct links to the images.  And the Netbook images have no testcases associated with them.23:17
jibelGrueMaster, I've added Ubuntu ARM Preinstalled omap3/4, the testcase needs an update it refers to maverick23:17
jibelGrueMaster, I can safely remove Ubuntu Netbook armel+omap3/4 ?23:18
GrueMasterThe download links for the Preinstalled images should not have /ports/ in the path.23:19
GrueMasterYes, remove the netbook testcases.23:19
GrueMasterAnd the test procedures for the Preinstalled Images should point to http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ARM/PreinstalledImage23:20
jibelports I can not change it is hardcoded23:21
GrueMasterThe installation steps are the same for Maverick.23:21
GrueMasterThat is bad.23:21
GrueMasterWe dropped ports from the path at the beginning of the cycle.23:22
skaetGrueMaster,  Netbook is the term being used in the release notes, only for ARM.   All other images folded into Ubuntu,   so am ok with images being identified as Netbook.23:25
skaethowever we can revisit this after the beta is out.23:25
GrueMasterskaet: Unfortunately the arm netbook images are rather different from the arm preinstalled images.23:25
GrueMasterAs far as test procedures go.23:25
GrueMasterAnd installation.23:26
skaetok23:26
GrueMasterFor the most part, I really don't care, as I end up doing all the testing anyways.  I just need somewhere to record the results.  :P23:27
jibeltestcase link updated.23:28
jibelGrueMaster, it looks like http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-preinstalled/20110329/ redirects to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/daily-preinstalled/20110329/23:29
GrueMasterjibel: I don't see anything under http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/ for daily-*23:30
GrueMasterOnly releases/maverick23:31
GrueMasterHmm.  The link you posted does seem to work.  Just can't walk the tree.23:31
jibelGrueMaster, when you enter http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-preinstalled/ you're redirected to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/daily-preinstalled/ without ports, there must be a rule on the webserver side23:32
GrueMasterMust be.  Trying to drill down from the top you don't see anything under /ports/ except releases.  Whatever works I guess.23:33
jibelGrueMaster, what about Ubuntu Headless armel omap3/omap4 ? There's a testcase but no image23:34
GrueMasterThey need to be added.  The path is http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-headless/daily-preinstalled/23:35
jibelpatrickmw, that's bug 71137823:39
ubot4`Launchpad bug 711378 in compiz (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "after compiz crashed, gnome-panel isn't mapped again (affects: 6) (dups: 2) (heat: 42)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71137823:39
patrickmwjibel: is it amd64 only?23:40
jibelpatrickmw, no I dont think so23:41
patrickmwjibel: ok. i've been able to replicate the issue consistently on amd64 images in vbox23:42
jibelpatrickmw, its only when the 2D fallback is used, if you login derectly to classic desktop with compiz enabled the panel should be there23:42
patrickmwjibel: yes. this is interesting.  when I boot the amd64 dvd and let it boot to the desktop automatically gnome-panel fails.  When in the ubuntu installer screen and I select "try ubuntu" gnome panel loads fine23:44
patrickmwnote, i don't even have a user to login with... i'm testing live cd23:45
patrickmwso no ui option to select classic23:45
GrueMasterjibel: I've been spanked regarding the Preinstalled images naming.  We need to get the Arm Netbook testcases mapped properly, and in a way that will carry forward to the next release test cycle.23:48
cjwatsonjibel,GrueMaster: there are .htaccess redirects for ports, yes, although anything relying on them should still be fixed23:52
jibelGrueMaster, please file a bug with all the updates you need for arm images and I'll take care of it.23:53
GrueMasterHow about a bug to fix qa to allow mere mortals to update their testcases?23:54
cjwatsonthat stuff does seem excessively locked down, yes (though it doesn't look deliberate, more like "web admin interface isn't smart enough yet")23:58
GrueMasterHaving hardcoded paths doesn't help much either.23:58
cjwatsonFWIW, I would just have cleaned up all the /ports/ stuff in one go if I could.23:59
cjwatsonor if I could even see that there was a problem.23:59

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