[11:08] <chadadavis> jibel, I asked skaet and heard you were the person to ask about an amd64+mac category on the ISO tracker. I'm testing the amd64+mac images now and assumed that these would go in their own category, distinct from 'amd64' ?
[11:11] <jibel> chadadavis, amd64+mac is the image to test. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com//daily-live/20110329/natty-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[11:11] <jibel> chadadavis, I'm adding the missing images to the tracker.
[11:11] <chadadavis> jibel, great. Thanks.
[11:54] <jibel> ara, when I add a new product to the tracker, is there a way to add the same testcases than another product, or do I need to readd the testcases one by one for each new product ?
[11:59] <ara> jibel, not through the web interface, I am afraid
[11:59] <ara> jibel, you can hack something in the database, though
[12:00] <jibel> ara, I was afraid too. I did the insert directly and that's ok. thanks.
[12:27] <jibel> chadadavis, the images are on the tracker now.
[12:28] <chadadavis> jibel, great. Thanks. I'm working on them now.
[12:28] <jibel> chadadavis, thanks
[13:06]  * pedro_ starting ubuntu dvd i386
[13:06] <pedro_> and alt
[13:27] <jibel> pedro_ and all, hi
[13:27] <jibel> hold on there is a respin coming
[13:29] <pedro_> hello jibel
[13:29] <pedro_> ok
[13:56] <hggdh> jibel: did we spin another image for server? Suddenly Jenkins restarted...
[13:57] <hggdh> and good morning, jibel, pedro_
[13:57] <hggdh> duh. of course we did
[13:59] <jibel> hggdh, yes we did, good morning
[14:01] <pedro_> good morning hggdh
[14:10] <marjo> good morning all
[14:10] <marjo> good day all
[14:11] <pedro_> brb
[14:14] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[14:15] <jibel> Good morning charlie-tca
[14:34] <charlie-tca> jibel: are you respinning all the images?
[14:34] <jibel> charlie-tca, yes
[14:34] <charlie-tca> Thanks.
[14:34] <charlie-tca> starting Xubuntu 386 upgrade test
[14:35] <jibel> charlie-tca, new ubiquity amongst others
[14:35] <charlie-tca> Got to be done, then.
[14:35] <charlie-tca> but that should not affect upgrades, right?
[14:36] <jibel> charlie-tca, upgrades are not affected
[14:40] <jibel> if somebody can help with wubi upgrade, you're welcome.
[14:57] <jibel> cjwatson, Riddell when installing kubuntu (20110329) I get a failure "cannot stat '/etc/default/keyboard'" then the installation stops. Is it a known or a new bug ?
[14:58] <jibel> Riddell, bug 744944 occured during upgrade
[14:58] <cjwatson> full logs please?
[14:58] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 744944 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "kdm is restarted during the upgrade to Natty . The user is disconnected from the session (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/744944
[15:00] <jibel> cjwatson, one second please, I'm slow with a US keymap on french keyboard
[15:10] <skaet> jibel, have not reset the upgrades since its believed the changes made overnight are unlikely to affected them, but if time permits when the other testing is done, we may want to redo them.   Will reset the ones not started so far.
[15:12] <charlie-tca> Can we have xubuntu upgrades back? They should not be affected either.
[15:15] <cjwatson> agreed
[15:29] <hggdh> jibel: another respin?
[15:29] <hggdh> jibel: if so, we have to cancel the current Jenkins jobs
[15:34] <davmor2> jibel: when things calm down a bit I'll try and test my laptop wifi issue on live cd if I get the chance
[15:35] <cjwatson> hggdh: the current batch should be more or less final, touch wood
[15:35] <cjwatson> barring showstopper issues discovered in QA
[15:35] <jibel> skaet, agreed
[15:37] <skaet> charlie-tca, cjwatson - Xubuntu upgrades back available.
[15:37] <charlie-tca> ta
[15:37] <charlie-tca> Thank you
[15:38] <hggdh> cjwatson: thanks. I will let jenkins go until .2 gets available, then I will cancel any remaining .1 test
[15:47] <bdmurray> cjwatson: should we be using ubiquity -d more often when we are testing?
[15:55] <jibel> cjwatson, bug 745014
[15:55] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 745014 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu Desktop failed to install (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/745014
[15:55] <cjwatson> Ubuntu server, alternate, desktop posted
[15:55] <jibel> sorry for the poor title
[15:56] <cjwatson> bdmurray: wouldn't hurt but best not to use it *all* the time
[15:56] <bdmurray> cjwatson: right because of the password appearing?
[15:56] <cjwatson> and it'll be a bit slower, and it means you have to start it from a terminal (or else use debug-ubiquity on the kernel command line)
[16:10] <charlie-tca> jibel: you got different colors than I do on the "High-contrast" install. Mine are dark grey with white text, and all visible
[16:10] <charlie-tca> I get black text in those white boxes
[16:11] <jibel> charlie-tca, I don't know, this is a live session with the latest iso
[16:11] <charlie-tca> weird
[16:11] <charlie-tca> I ran it on three different systems, with ati and intel graphics, and got black text there each time
[16:12] <charlie-tca> but I agree, it is a problem
[16:14] <jibel> charlie-tca, I'm trying on a real machine
[16:18] <Riddell> hmm, archive mirror is slow
[16:25] <jibel> charlie-tca, same problem on my taketimetohaveacupofcoffee netbook
[16:27] <jibel> charlie-tca, the theme is 'High Contrast Inverse'
[16:32] <charlie-tca> You started at the cd menu with F5?
[16:32] <charlie-tca> I will try it again
[16:39] <jibel> charlie-tca, no when I boot using F5 I get the large fonts not the inverted theme and the situation is not better, the buttons are out of the screen.
[16:40] <charlie-tca> okay, that's why I couldn't reproduce it then. Will try from the live desktop
[17:24] <cjwatson> it would really help if somebody with a11y experience were contributing to the installer ...
[17:25] <charlie-tca> +1
[17:38] <cjwatson> argh, managed to deadlock a bunch of processes on my DVD drive
[17:38]  * cjwatson hates media
[19:58] <njin> Hello, is Migration Assistant disabled ?
[20:00] <skaet> jibel, around?
[20:10] <bdmurray> skaet: is there something I can help with?
[20:10] <skaet> bdmurray,  can you add some more ec2 images to the iso tester?
[20:11] <skaet> looks like we've now got northeast asia ones
[20:11] <bdmurray> skaet: its been a while but probably
[20:11] <cjwatson> Kubuntu alternate, Kubuntu desktop, and Kubuntu mobile i386 posted
[20:11] <skaet> the ones there right now should be explicitly labeled southeast.
[20:12] <njin> someone know if Migration Assistant is disabled ? Thanks
[20:17] <charlie-tca> njin: to the best of my knowledge, it is enabled. It was last night, at least.
[20:19] <njin> charlie-tca: hello, i cannot see it installing just now
[20:20] <charlie-tca> Is windows on that computer?
[20:20] <njin> no, only ubuntu, other two, seem strange that don't see nothing, one is surely used
[20:21] <njin> it don't appear as window
[20:21] <charlie-tca> Migration Assistant only works with windows
[20:21] <charlie-tca> It was not set up for Ubuntu to Ubuntu
[20:21] <njin> ?, not with Ubuntu ?
[20:22] <charlie-tca> no, I found that out testing alpha3
[20:23]  * skaet -> get lunch,  biab
[20:23] <njin> ou, then now is clear, thanks
[20:23] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[20:24] <njin> I go on testing Kubuntu then
[20:40] <jibel> skaet, around.
[20:41] <skaet> jibel,  ap-northeast images new on the ec2 manifest.   What numbers to assign them?
[20:42] <skaet> also, existing ap images should be explicitly denoted southeast in the iso tracker.  :)
[20:42] <skaet> bdmurray was starting to look at it, but not sure how far he got.
[20:43] <bdmurray> skaet: not far I had a call sorry
[20:44] <skaet> bdmurray, understand,  all multiplexing quite a bit today.
[20:45] <jibel> skaet, looking
[20:57] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu upgrade, one minor bug, bug 745207
[20:57] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 745207 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "Upgrade from 10.10 to Natty, there is only one workspace (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/745207
[20:57] <charlie-tca> user can add more easily, but they should not disappear on upgrade
[21:31] <jibel> skaet, okay, sorry for being slow, blame the tracker.
[21:31] <jibel> skaet, I renamed to southeast the following products ami-ca3b4298, ami-cc3b429e, ami-d03b4282, ami-183b424a
[21:31] <jibel> and added:
[21:31] <jibel> ap-northeast-1 	32-bit 	instance 	ami-7cfd577d
[21:31] <jibel> ap-northeast-1 	64-bit 	instance 	ami-aafd57ab
[21:31] <jibel> ap-northeast-1 	32-bit 	ebs 	ami-eafd57eb
[21:31] <jibel> ap-northeast-1 	64-bit 	ebs 	ami-f0fd57f1
[21:32] <jibel> skaet, I'll add the testcases now, .....
[21:32] <skaet> thanks jibel
[21:40] <jibel> skaet, testcases are there too now.
[21:41] <skaet> jibel,  great.    Will let smoser know.
[21:41] <charlie-tca> Made it back. New keyboard connected. Apparently unplugged the wrong thing
[21:42] <jibel> skaet, k, please double check, between ap, 32bit, i386, instance, ebs ... I may have lost the north ;-)
[21:44] <skaet> jibel,  will do.   Have to update the post-amis script so, will give them a good stare.
[21:44] <skaet> :)
[22:50] <patrickmw> has anyone had success running a live session with persistence?  If so, can you please describe the procedure you followed?
[22:51] <patrickmw> jibel ^
[22:52] <jibel> patrickmw, burn an image to a memory stick, boot to a live session, write some stuff to the key, e.g in your home directory, reboot and check that what you've written is still there
[22:53] <patrickmw> jibel: the test case describes adding a "persistent" param to the linux boot line.  does that seem correct?
[22:57] <jibel> patrickmw, I don't think it's still needed and the testcase needs an update.
[22:57] <patrickmw> jibel: ack
[23:13] <skaet> jibel,   looks like arm images and iso tracker may need some tweaking
[23:13] <jibel> GrueMaster, go ahead, which images with which labels ?
[23:14] <GrueMaster> The Ubuntu Netbook Armel+[omap3|omap4] images should be Ubuntu Preinstalled instead.
[23:14] <GrueMaster> I don't thinkk the netbook testcases are mapped properly since they were older (not sure).
[23:15] <GrueMaster> I really do not understand how admin iso.qa.u.c works.
[23:17] <GrueMaster> None of them have correct links to the images.  And the Netbook images have no testcases associated with them.
[23:17] <jibel> GrueMaster, I've added Ubuntu ARM Preinstalled omap3/4, the testcase needs an update it refers to maverick
[23:18] <jibel> GrueMaster, I can safely remove Ubuntu Netbook armel+omap3/4 ?
[23:19] <GrueMaster> The download links for the Preinstalled images should not have /ports/ in the path.
[23:19] <GrueMaster> Yes, remove the netbook testcases.
[23:20] <GrueMaster> And the test procedures for the Preinstalled Images should point to http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ARM/PreinstalledImage
[23:21] <jibel> ports I can not change it is hardcoded
[23:21] <GrueMaster> The installation steps are the same for Maverick.
[23:21] <GrueMaster> That is bad.
[23:22] <GrueMaster> We dropped ports from the path at the beginning of the cycle.
[23:25] <skaet> GrueMaster,  Netbook is the term being used in the release notes, only for ARM.   All other images folded into Ubuntu,   so am ok with images being identified as Netbook.
[23:25] <skaet> however we can revisit this after the beta is out.
[23:25] <GrueMaster> skaet: Unfortunately the arm netbook images are rather different from the arm preinstalled images.
[23:25] <GrueMaster> As far as test procedures go.
[23:26] <GrueMaster> And installation.
[23:26] <skaet> ok
[23:27] <GrueMaster> For the most part, I really don't care, as I end up doing all the testing anyways.  I just need somewhere to record the results.  :P
[23:28] <jibel> testcase link updated.
[23:29] <jibel> GrueMaster, it looks like http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-preinstalled/20110329/ redirects to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/daily-preinstalled/20110329/
[23:30] <GrueMaster> jibel: I don't see anything under http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/ for daily-*
[23:31] <GrueMaster> Only releases/maverick
[23:31] <GrueMaster> Hmm.  The link you posted does seem to work.  Just can't walk the tree.
[23:32] <jibel> GrueMaster, when you enter http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-preinstalled/ you're redirected to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/daily-preinstalled/ without ports, there must be a rule on the webserver side
[23:33] <GrueMaster> Must be.  Trying to drill down from the top you don't see anything under /ports/ except releases.  Whatever works I guess.
[23:34] <jibel> GrueMaster, what about Ubuntu Headless armel omap3/omap4 ? There's a testcase but no image
[23:35] <GrueMaster> They need to be added.  The path is http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-headless/daily-preinstalled/
[23:39] <jibel> patrickmw, that's bug 711378
[23:39] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 711378 in compiz (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "after compiz crashed, gnome-panel isn't mapped again (affects: 6) (dups: 2) (heat: 42)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711378
[23:40] <patrickmw> jibel: is it amd64 only?
[23:41] <jibel> patrickmw, no I dont think so
[23:42] <patrickmw> jibel: ok. i've been able to replicate the issue consistently on amd64 images in vbox
[23:42] <jibel> patrickmw, its only when the 2D fallback is used, if you login derectly to classic desktop with compiz enabled the panel should be there
[23:44] <patrickmw> jibel: yes. this is interesting.  when I boot the amd64 dvd and let it boot to the desktop automatically gnome-panel fails.  When in the ubuntu installer screen and I select "try ubuntu" gnome panel loads fine
[23:45] <patrickmw> note, i don't even have a user to login with... i'm testing live cd
[23:45] <patrickmw> so no ui option to select classic
[23:48] <GrueMaster> jibel: I've been spanked regarding the Preinstalled images naming.  We need to get the Arm Netbook testcases mapped properly, and in a way that will carry forward to the next release test cycle.
[23:52] <cjwatson> jibel,GrueMaster: there are .htaccess redirects for ports, yes, although anything relying on them should still be fixed
[23:53] <jibel> GrueMaster, please file a bug with all the updates you need for arm images and I'll take care of it.
[23:54] <GrueMaster> How about a bug to fix qa to allow mere mortals to update their testcases?
[23:58] <cjwatson> that stuff does seem excessively locked down, yes (though it doesn't look deliberate, more like "web admin interface isn't smart enough yet")
[23:58] <GrueMaster> Having hardcoded paths doesn't help much either.
[23:59] <cjwatson> FWIW, I would just have cleaned up all the /ports/ stuff in one go if I could.
[23:59] <cjwatson> or if I could even see that there was a problem.