[00:01] exit [00:01] hmm, its going to take some time getting use to irssi i see [00:22] [Jono Bacon] UDS Sponsorship Deadline Tomorrow! - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/03/28/uds-sponsorship-deadline-tomorrow/ [00:30] gord: open ccsm, go to window decorator, disable window decoration, it kills unity [00:30] i have to have an ssh session option to unity --reset [00:31] directhex: what has boycott boy chosen then after his bt boycott? [00:32] bt as in british telecom? [00:32] yes [00:32] i see directhex discussing it on twitter [00:32] a fine choice === james is now known as Guest19815 [00:32] popey, he hasn't! he signed an 18 month contract up front, and NOW is complaining they're an evil monopoly and should be boycotted [00:33] heh I boycotted BT for their interwebs for years [00:33] not really a monopoly any more... they are evil though [00:34] ali1234, not legally a monopoly in a Market 3 area! [00:34] ali1234, not on an exchange with 8 LLU providers, plus virgin, plus all 5 mobile networks! [00:34] yeah, unbundling and all that [03:21] \o [03:43] o/ [03:43] shauno: \o/ [03:52] shauno: IPv6 hates me :( [03:54] I thought you were getting somewhere yesterday? what'd you break? [03:56] it worked as a thing on one computer [03:56] radvd [03:56] (raaaaaaDVD as I'm calling it) [03:56] doesn't! === Martinp24 is now known as Guest29498 === denny is now known as Guest98662 [05:36] shauno: wow... so we're all compiled back together again (server splits) [05:53] hi [05:53] popey: hi [05:53] hi [05:53] is there a way to know someone has installed squid-deb-proxy server inside LAN ? [05:54] I am still facing the issue [05:54] inside the office [05:55] HazRPG: hi [05:55] erm [05:55] I'm not sure about that one dude [05:55] ok [05:56] I have shutdown squid-deb-proxy on server [05:56] oh, is this the updating problem? [05:56] yes [05:56] could you pastebin it again please? [05:56] sure [05:56] :) [05:58] HazRPG: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/586729/ [05:58] thanks [05:58] np [05:59] can ya go through it quickly what you/people have done/suggested so far? (so that im not just repeating something that someone else has already tried) [05:59] where ? [05:59] hmm, reading it like that sounds wrong [06:00] I mean what you have tried so far? [06:00] when i am out of office network it worked [06:00] and what has people suggested? [06:00] no one has suggested anything [06:00] ah [06:00] hence the question :) [06:01] :P [06:01] right, lemmie see [06:03] im guessing from all the amd64 references it's a 64-bit machine install [06:03] and that its maverick (10.10) [06:04] yes [06:05] right, erm... does this command fail: ping in.archive.ubuntu.com -c 5 [06:06] also, why is it using in.archive.ubuntu.com anyways? I thought archive.ubuntu.com was the default :S [06:08] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/586730/ [06:08] ok [06:09] hmm, so its not having trouble reaching the domain... [06:09] HazRPG: is there a way to remove in ? [06:10] I mean "in" [06:10] I tried :%s/^//.in//g [06:11] sure... gui way to do it is via update manager [06:11] click settings->Ubuntu Software tab-> change the download drop-down to a different server [06:12] ok [06:14] either pick "main server" if it isn't already... or pick "other..." and select one closer to you [06:15] then try and see if it'll update then [06:20] HazRPG: still the same [06:21] hmm [06:22] wait, you said it updates fine outside of the office? [06:22] yes [06:23] I am suspecting the squid-deb-proxy server [06:23] but someone inside our office might have installed it [06:23] instead of just installing squid-deb-proxy-client [06:26] HazRPG: is there a way to find ? [06:27] looking into it now for ya dude [06:28] what does the command "avahi-browse -kprt _apt_proxy._tcp" return? [06:28] ok [06:31] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/586732/ [06:32] that 3rd line is what's getting you; deb-squid-proxy is running on 172.26.0.23 [06:34] I've a funny feeling you need to change allowed-networks-src.conf on the machine that's running the proxy === HazRPG1 is now known as HazRPG [06:35] actually, no, nm; 172.26.x.x fits that [06:36] but either way, that proxy either needs to work, or go away :) [06:38] sorry, I'm still messing with ipv6 stuff on this end [06:39] shauno: guessing your trying your wit at it now? (your probably the better man for the job in all honesty) [06:41] HazRPG: was just trying to figure out if the apt-proxy really is running or not. avahi thinks it is, apparently [06:43] I'd be interested to try: http_proxy=http://172.26.0.23:8000 wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 [06:44] it'll try to grab the package list via the same proxy apt is trying to use, but should give you a more descriptive failure message [06:45] (all apt's telling you is that the reply is 45 bytes and makes no sense to apt) [06:54] shauno: http_proxy=http://172.26.0.23:8000 ? [06:56] shauno: not sure i understand that [06:56] when i do wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 [06:56] it works fine [06:59] if you put it before the wget command, wget will try to use that proxy [06:59] ok [07:00] it works fine [07:00] could you pastebin what wget output when it did so? [07:00] sure [07:01] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/586740/ [07:01] (want to check it is going via the proxy, and it isn't getting a 45byte file) [07:01] Packages.bz2' saved [45/45] <= 45 bytes again [07:02] ok [07:02] could you 'cat Packages.bz2' ? (don't worry, I strongly suspect it's not going to be bzip'd binary) [07:02] sure [07:02]

It works!

[07:02] :( it lies! [07:03] that's a vhost problem [07:03] usually [07:04] so any way to fix it ? [07:05] wrong proxy port? [07:06] 8000's what avahi is claiming [07:06] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/586732/ is where apt is getting the proxy details from [07:07] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/586741/ [07:07] (unless I'm reading http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~squid-deb-proxy-developers/squid-deb-proxy/trunk/view/head:/apt-avahi-discover very wrong) [07:09] shauno: shall i pastebin the /etc/squid-deb-proxy/squid-deb-proxy.conf ? [07:09] can't hurt; have you changed it from the packaged version? [07:12] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/586745/ [07:12] shauno: nope [07:13] kaushal: so where do you have an unconfigured apache sitting about? [07:13] localhost? the proxy? [07:16] AlanBell: please give me a moment [07:21] morning all [07:22] o/ [07:23] sounds like squid isnt running because there is already an apache running on 8000 on that box [07:24] does squid log requests somewhere? [07:25] yes [07:25] so we could check squid's log to see if http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/586740/ did hit it [07:26] (I'm curious if he is hitting squid, and squid is fetching 'It works' from the wrong place; or if he's hitting a webserver instead of squid) [07:27] /var/log/squid or /var/log/squid-deb-proxy [07:28] I'm also quickly reaching the limit of how many times I can say 'squid' before it ceases to seem like a real word. [07:29] kaushal: what does http://172.26.0.23:8000 in a browser look like (and for anyone else, what is squid supposed to look like?) [07:29] hi TheOpenSourcerer [07:30] morning AlanBell [07:30] i think we have lost him [07:31] emm calamari [07:32] yummy [07:32] for breakfast [07:34] bet they eat it somewhere [07:38] popey: AlanBell czajkowski interesting Digital Surrey evening in April... http://www.eventbrite.com/event/1494087857/ [07:39] popey: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/586747/ [07:42] popey: also shall i pastebin the access.log under /var/log/squid-deb-proxy [07:42] i get hits [07:42] dont know why its not working [07:43] kaushal: does /etc/squid-deb-proxy/allowed-networks-src.conf look sane for your network? [07:43] also mirror-dstdomain.acl in that same directory [07:45] yes [07:46] Hmm, did AlanBell fall of the internet again? [07:46] s/of/off [07:46] * AlanBell checks [07:46] http://pastebin.com/abg958sD is mine [07:46] nope, don't think I did [07:46] :-) [07:46] * popey registers for that event [07:47] * AlanBell spots "there will be cake" and registers [07:48] ooh I might have been on Radio 5 live this morning [07:48] (not live) [07:49] How many more Alans could register in succession? http://www.eventbrite.com/event/1494087857/ [07:49] :) [07:50] Hell is other peoples code [07:50] popey: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/586751/ [07:50] morning awilkins [07:51] Morning. [07:51] Would be interesting to know what is the volume of human sinuses [07:51] kaushal: have you installed squid-deb-proxy-client on your client end? [07:52] I can pack three metres of paraffin soaked ribbon gauze into each nostril - and that doesnt inculde sinuses [07:52] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/586752/ [07:52] kaushal: what does /usr/share/squid-deb-proxy-client/apt-avahi-discover contain on the client? [07:53] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/586755/ [07:54] Morning [07:55] kaushal: run that file [07:55] /usr/share/squid-deb-proxy-client/apt-avahi-discover [07:55] you should get one line back [07:55] http://:/ [07:55] or [07:55] http://10.10.10.124:8000/ [07:55] something like the above [07:56] http://172.26.0.23:8000/ [07:56] great [07:56] so avahi is working [07:56] popey: Not sure if you still use drobo but might be interesting: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/reviews/2011/03/drobo-review-1.ars [07:56] so what happens if (on that same box) you do "sudo apt-get update" [07:57] TheOpenSourcerer: i only use my drobo to backup my macbook pro. [07:57] isolating the evil [07:57] popey: are you talking about 172.26.0.23 ? [07:57] kaushal: i am talking about the client [07:57] heh [07:57] ok [07:57] run "sudo apt-get update" on the client [07:57] not the server [07:57] ok [07:57] its the same [07:57] same in what way? [07:57] pastebin? [07:57] sure [07:58] Hmm.. how can you ninja theme a blog post without it ending up sounding racist [07:58] popey: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/586763/ [07:59] daubers: gratuitous use of silence. [08:00] shauno: Not very good at getting you point across though :( [08:00] Do it in the style of like, totally flipping out and uppercutting a kid? [08:00] ninjas would disagree. getting the 'point' across without making a noise is the whole point ;) [08:01] Or doing the dangle-a-thread-and-pour-poison-syrup-down-it thing. [08:02] personally, it'd either be in the third person, so you're describing what can't be seen/heard. or just go full on Banzai and suffer the fallout :D [08:02] (actually, fallout may be a poor choice of words currently. 'consequences' I guess) [08:03] kaushal: have you pastebinned the access.log from /var/log/squid-deb-proxy/ ? [08:03] I cant see it [08:03] Fallout... And they are holding back Simpsons episodes with nuclear power disaster references.... [08:03] popey: nope [08:03] let me pastebin it [08:12] popey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/586765/ [08:14] kaushal: whats the IP of your client? [08:18] 172.26.1.29 [08:21] kaushal: is there an apache running on the server? [08:21] popey: please give me a moment [08:21] nope [08:23] i dont know where "It Works" is coming from [08:24] is it normal for all those log entries to be marked text/html? most the URIs they claim to be hitting are application/x-bzip2 [08:25] * popey checks his [08:26] http://pastebin.com/5zS9t9j6 [08:27] thats my acces_log [08:28] well, a bit of it [08:28] yours works fine I assume? [08:28] yes [08:28] you're getting a load of TCP_REFRESH_HIT/304 [08:29] 304 is Not Modified, which makes total sense [08:29] his are all 200's .. http 'ok' [08:30] and all text/html, where yours look accurate (text for translations, app/bzip for Packages.bz2, nadda where no changes were returned) [08:30] there's not another proxy between apt-proxy and the destination is there? [08:31] kaushal: you haven't installed squid-deb-proxy-client on the server have you? [08:31] (eg, apt->deb-squid-proxy->mystery meat->archive.ubuntu) [08:32] morning all [08:33] deb-proxy shouldn't hit itself, but there is a second squid instance running in http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/586747/ which could be a concern [08:34] maybe some iptables trying to transparently proxy? [08:34] kaushal: have you done anything with iptables on this box (the server) [08:36] * popey tickles czajkowski with http://www.eventbrite.com/event/1494087857/ [08:39] Morning all [08:40] popey: please give me a moment [08:41] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/586772/ [08:41] popey: What was the website you've previously recommended for the cheaper thinkpads [08:42] looks like they have shutdown [08:43] Ah well, never mind, I'll keep looking for a laptop then [08:43] kaushal: remove squid-deb-proxy-client from the server, it should not be installed [08:44] kaushal: also, see my other questions about iptables and apache? [08:44] I can't figure out why it's giving the right IP for archive., but hitting something else. most curious [08:44] i suspect iptables [08:44] unless the it works is coming from archive somehow [08:45] 08:53 < kaushal> I am using iptables and applying rules at command line [08:45] 08:53 < kaushal> after setting rules i did iptables-save and when i do iptables -L [08:45] 08:57 < kaushal> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3128 [08:45] 09:14 < kaushal> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3128 [08:45] ^^ [08:45] [SLAM] [08:45] case closed [08:45] :D [08:45] hah, score. so what's on 3128? (please, please be a misconfigured apache) [08:45] (or maybe not) [08:46] probably apache in proxy mode [08:46] it's not his second squid, he has that on 4004 [08:46] we dont know whats changed since that conversation tho [08:48] so far it's making my home setup look clean & tidy :) [08:56] TheOpenSourcerer: at those digital surrey things do people have name badges? :) [08:57] popey: please give me a moment [09:00] hello all [09:05] Morning MooDoo [09:10] how are you smittix ? [09:16] Not too bad, hows you? === _Dave2_ is now known as Dave2 [09:16] smittix: yeah i'm ok thanks, shutting down facebook for a few weeks :D [09:17] MooDoo: I deactivated my account a while back now :/ [09:18] smittix: i did, but like a rash it kept coming back :) [09:18] any android owners discover that their phone turned itself on last night? wife & I both turned phones off and the both turned on around 6am today (no alarms in use)..weird [09:19] oimon: not here, then again i don't turn mine off [09:19] oimon: are you running an official version of 2.2.1 on your phone? [09:19] davmor2: yes [09:19] on HTC Desire [09:20] oimon, Never happened to me. Sleepwalking? :-) [09:20] oimon: that could be your issue, although it only reboots here not switch off fullstop [09:21] both were defeintely off at 10pm [09:22] morning all by the way [09:24] oimon: Desire HD here, no problem with it switching off last night [09:25] MooDoo: heh, I had to, I was sick of reading people's problems [09:25] oimon: sorry, just reread that, mine doesn't get switched off, so i wouldn't notice it switching on [09:26] DJones: leaving it on seems to be a popular thing [09:26] oimon: Yes, I just charge overnight on the bedside cabinet [09:27] sounds quite close to your head [09:27] About a foot away, but on silent [09:28] i was amazed at the number of people who relied on iphone alarms after the last 2 DST bugs [09:29] last 2? Was there another one last weekend or did I miss one from before? [09:29] popey: back again [09:29] ( "good morning" btw ) [09:29] tugrik: iphone alarm has been buggy for at least a year [09:29] sorry could not continue with the discussion [09:30] tugrik: , yes another problem at the weekend, [09:30] odd, I didn't notice any problems this weekend (I did rig up a plan B tho) [09:32] so i have a gateway which runs squid server and shorewall [09:33] I have setup squid-deb-proxy on a server which is behind the gateway [09:33] i cannot install squid-deb-proxy on the gateway since its 9.04 server [09:34] so i have set it up inside a lan which is 172.26.0.23 [09:34] so on server which runs squid-deb-proxy [09:34] kaushal: the problem is almost certainly because you have iptables configured to forward port 80 on that box to 3128 [09:35] oh ok [09:35] you mean on gateway ? [09:36] i dont know what boxes, I've just noticed in the past you've setup iptables to forward port 80 to 3128 [09:36] yes on the gateway it is [09:36] I'm curious why wget works and squid doesn't, if the gateway's proxying transparently [09:37] but not on the squid-deb-proxy server [09:37] kaushal: probably the best thing to do is, dump the output of iptables-save into pastebin, and also draw a picture of the network [09:37] drawing pictures \o/ [09:37] otherwise it's just guesswork [09:37] +1 [09:38] and also the squid config and any other relevant configs. since that's what an engineer would look at if he visisted [09:38] long-term, I'd consider moving the gateway to 10.04 too. 9.04 is end-of-life'd, so you've got a box in a critical position that's no longer guaranteed security updates [09:38] popey: is there a squid-deb-proxy debian package available for 9.04 ? [09:39] its 10.04 and further release ? [09:39] shauno: makes sense [09:39] 10.04 is a long term support release [09:39] it will last longer than 10.10 support [09:40] shauno: so on 10.04 i can install squid-deb-proxy ? [09:40] that's why I suggest 10.04. 5 years support in a server role, and squid-deb-proxy is available [09:40] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=squid-deb-proxy [09:40] kaushal: yes [09:40] !info squid-deb-proxy lucid [09:40] squid-deb-proxy (source: squid-deb-proxy): Squid proxy configuration optimized for deb packages. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3.1.0.1 (lucid), package size 4 kB, installed size 88 kB [09:41] there's not much to it, it could be backported, but 9.04 is old [09:41] probably not an upgrade you want to do on a whim, but worth thinking about at some stage, since 9.04 ended support last october [09:41] so little point backporting to 9.04 [09:42] ok [09:42] so on 10.04 i run transparent proxy squid [09:42] and shorewall and samba and postfix [09:42] so on this i have to just install squid-deb-proxy ? [09:43] I mean if i am upgrading my gateway to 10.04 [09:43] that's what I'd do, personally. (but tested on a spare machine first, you don't want to play rough with your gateway & mailserver :) [09:45] I came into this convo a lil too late, but what I do is test things on both a VM first, then a spare machine, then migrate - that way you can mess it up all you want and you'll have a pretty good knowledge of what your doing when you actually come to do it [09:45] more short term, I'd start looking at squid's logs on the gateway to find out why .23 is receiving the wrong files === willy_1977 is now known as Guest60559 [09:46] kaushal: well, when I originally suggested using squid-deb-proxy I had kinda assumed you were using a supported version of Ubuntu :) [09:47] apologies [09:47] i would set up a 10.04 gateway [09:48] * daubers gets the skype beating stick out [09:49] * willy_1977_atwor appears to have left irc running at home and can't get no 1 nick choice back yet... [09:49] ghost yourself? [09:49] gord, ended up doing a release... [09:50] wonder if ghost would work now... hmmm. [09:50] ssh home :p [09:50] shauno, not set up yet... :( I'm new leave me alone :p [09:51] morning [09:51] no natty t-shirts in the store yet :( [09:51] yes good point danfish, good morning hope everyone is as well as can be. [09:52] shauno, on the ssh thingy... know any good guides to setting it up? or anyone for that matter? [09:55] Aloha [09:55] willy_1977_atwor: mostly the same as anything else. install openssh-server, port forward on your router so you can reach it. the fun is trying to tidy it up so you don't get chinese "visitors" knocking on it all day long [09:55] !ssh | willy_1977_atwor [09:55] willy_1977_atwor: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon) [09:55] Morning Laura [09:55] willy_1977_atwor: That first link has a lot of good info in it [09:55] thanks shauno, DJones [09:56] morning czajkowski. [09:57] morning czajkowski how are you this fine day? [09:57] * popey pokes czajkowski with http://www.eventbrite.com/event/1494087857/ [09:57] shauno: woot! [09:58] shauno: MartijnVdS managed to help show me the errors of my ways with the whole ipv6 [09:58] saw this picture over someone's shoulder on the train and thought it was a narwhal..you have to look closely to see that's not it's horn/spike http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/24/article-0-0B504A8100000578-276_306x637.jpg [09:58] MooDoo: like I could lie on the floor and have someone jump up and down on my back [09:58] popey: oh interesting... [09:58] * popey is going [09:58] but in Guilford [09:58] yeah [09:58] * czajkowski looks at trains [09:58] And it's good morning from me. :) [09:59] czajkowski: oh dear that good eh! [09:59] which venue in guildford? [09:59] click the link [09:59] hey, the stoke pub? [09:59] * oimon knows it well [10:00] been to wedding reception out the back, that must be where the event is held [10:00] JamesTait: sup dude \o [10:01] Hi HazRPG. :) [10:02] Think the install has hung :( [10:03] * davmor2 volunteers to hit czajkowski back with a lump hammer, but only if it'll help :) [10:03] davmor2: get in the queue [10:04] :o [10:04] someone could get hurt doing that. [10:04] willy_1977_atwor: nah :D [10:04] just watch you don't get your fingers in the way... [10:04] Doesn't it say wear a hard hat on the handles somewhere? [10:04] MooDoo: what you have a lump hammer [10:05] davmor2: yup, although i'm quite big, i might just jump on her [10:05] MooDoo: that sounds so wrong! [10:05] I thought this was a family channel you're on about jumping her now... does she not get a say? [10:05] willy_1977_atwor: er on her....be careful :) [10:06] only afterwards [10:06] :o [10:06] just to be clear...I do but jest... no offense meant to anyone... [10:06] willy_1977_atwor: we know :D [10:07] * davmor2 gives czajkowski a hug and hopes her poorly back gets better soon [10:07] * willy_1977_atwor is glad [10:07] hey biggie [10:07] Hi hoover [10:07] davmor2: i know all about back ache, being tall is a pin the neck sometimes :D [10:08] my predecessor purchased 4 x inspiron XPS laptops with the infamous nvidia chips in..last one has just died after 3yrs. first one died after one year. i don't know how we don't deserve product recalls on those items [10:08] MooDoo: it is indeed. lower back and neck from constantly looking down to talk to people [10:09] davmor2: yup on a daily basis, think i'll chop my legs off lol [10:09] davmor2, MooDoo: it's not much fun being short and round either [10:09] I'm fed up of talking to peoples belly buttons...I'm not that short just in land of the giants at work... [10:09] :) [10:10] willy_1977_atwor: Just make people crawl round on their knee's [10:11] Is there going to be a Laura A and Laura B in tonight's podcast? [10:11] DJones: why didn't I think of that... and it'll help them too they don't have to look down anymore... "ok they get carpet fitters knee" but... small price for them to pay for my happiness and well being I reckon ;) [10:12] * shauno thinks someone's taking A/B testing to an illogical extreme ;) [10:12] shauno: alice and bob testing? [10:17] is there a shortcut for "show me the . files" in nautilus? [10:17] CTRL+H [10:17] thanks popey [10:17]