[13:59] <DammitJim> do you guys know a good place to buy for hard drives?
[14:03] <maxolasersquad> DammitJim: newegg.com
[14:04] <DammitJim> thanks maxolasersquad ... do you know what the best byte for the buck is right now on HDD capacities?
[14:05] <maxolasersquad> DammitJim: I'm not really up on who is making the best drives right now.
[14:05] <DammitJim> thanks
[14:26] <maxolasersquad> Woot!  Just finished a three week project to deploy our new billing system to QA for customer testing.
[14:26] <maxolasersquad> I had to fight a cobweb of dependencies.
[14:32] <DammitJim> isn't that normal?
[14:38] <maxolasersquad> Releases like this are rarely easy, but for this one we had modified almost every piece of our system.  I got to hunt down what all of those pieces where.
[14:40] <maxolasersquad> And then script it out so when we release to production it should be a nice clean release.
[14:42] <DammitJim> maxolasersquad, sounds like fun!
[15:30] <dantalizing> ok irccloud officially sucks
[15:44] <dantalizing> morning
[16:07] <itnet7> hey there dantalizing !
[16:20] <DammitJim> man, why is it so hard to figure out how fast a hard drive is!
[16:21] <mhall119> DammitJim: heisenberg?
[16:22] <DammitJim> oh really?
[16:22] <mhall119> probably not
[16:22] <mhall119> but it sounded smart
[16:22] <DammitJim> I thought it was an ice cream
[16:23] <mhall119> okay, so maybe it didn't sound smart :(
[16:23] <mhall119> what speed are you trying to measure?
[16:23] <dantalizing> DammitJim: palimpset doesnt work for you?
[16:23] <DammitJim> I'm just trying to figure out what hard drive to buy
[16:23] <DammitJim> and there is no easy way to figure out which one is "fastest"
[16:23] <DammitJim> out of the ones I've seen... some give you seek time, some give you just rpms, some give you just cache, ya know?
[16:24] <dantalizing> toms hardware
[16:24] <dantalizing> http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/hard-drives,3.html
[16:24] <mhall119> DammitJim: well, what speed matters most to you?
[16:24] <DammitJim> write speed
[16:25] <mhall119> really?
[16:25] <DammitJim> yup
[16:25] <mhall119> huh
[16:25] <DammitJim> that's my bottleneck right now
[16:25] <mhall119> using ext4?
[16:25] <DammitJim> what's the command for that?
[16:25] <DammitJim> fdisk?
[16:25] <DammitJim> I don't remember honestly
[16:26] <dantalizing> DammitJim: check the toms hardware link
[16:26] <DammitJim> thanks dantalizing ... some of the hard drives I was looking at are in there
[17:06] <reya276> Good Afternoon Everyone
[17:07] <crashsystems> ugh, I just got into work :/
[17:07] <dantalizing> morning reya276 
[17:07] <dantalizing> crashsystems: you slacker
[17:07] <reya276> me too dude
[17:07] <reya276> hey dan
[17:07] <crashsystems> ha, I usually get in at 9am
[17:08] <crashsystems> na*
[17:08] <reya276> i know I'm usually in by 8-8:30am but somehow today just felt like sleeping in, must be the rain
[17:09] <crashsystems> bah, site is giving me 404s. Just what IU need
[17:10] <reya276> Hey I tested out this new app for Natty called the Board is pretty cool. is a widget type thing, but it actually has its good points and it can be indeed more useful than just widgets
[17:11] <reya276> oh I also bought this software called illumination from the software center and this thing is pretty damn aswesome
[17:11] <crashsystems> what is it?
[17:11] <reya276> I mean awesome for those of us whom don't know anything about how to program for the Linux desktop
[17:12] <reya276> is a visual programming tool, one sec I'll provide a link
[17:12] <reya276> http://radicalbreeze.com/
[17:13] <reya276> the cool thing about it is that is allows you to create and app and deploy it to multiple environments such as Android, Web, tablets and Linux Desktop
[17:14] <reya276> I saw a demo of it on Youtube and the darn thing is pretty good for it being $40 bucks
[17:16] <crashsystems> mhall119: whats this I hear about you working at Canonical?
[17:16] <reya276> oh yeah I forgot my favorite thing it also lets you port the app over to a Flex, Coldfusion environment
[17:18] <reya276> yeah I know for us programmers desktop/web could spell trouble but I don't think this thing can do anything too complex but I could be wrong
[17:18] <reya276> however putting that aside it is impressive
[17:19] <crashsystems> so it converts your apps into webapps? I wonder how the security on it works
[18:43] <reya276> crashsystems, oh that i'm not sure but you could sent them an email and ask them about it
[18:43] <reya276> I'm pretty sure they will be happy to answer any questions
[18:44] <reya276> but it is a pretty cool piece of software, I started messing with it at hope. I'm actually trying to create some apps for our internal use here at the office
[18:44] <crashsystems> they might not be an unbiased source of info in that regard
[18:44] <reya276> well no I think they would tell you
[18:44] <maxolasersquad> Anyone here use Gnash instead of Flash?
[18:45] <reya276> I don't think they have nothing to gain by deceiving you (the consumer)
[18:46] <reya276> they have also said on their youtube presentations that they want people to test it and try to find any issues which they should fix, such as security issues etc...
[18:46] <crashsystems> most companies prefer to say their product is secure. look at adobe for example.
[18:46] <crashsystems> if they are encouraging people to find security problems, thats definately a good sign
[18:48] <reya276> well those are two different things entirely, your talking about a company which caters to a Dumb down community(no offense to anyone in here) which uses Windows/MAC by default security for them is always the last thing they think about because if not they would be Linux users right
[18:49] <reya276> compared to this company which created their software primarily for Linux Development, the other stuff got added on afterwards as people started asking them for it
[18:50] <reya276> So I think in this case security was one of the top things on their list since they are catering to the linux community which takes that very very seriously
[18:50] <mhall119> crashsystems: hiya
[18:50] <mhall119> I started there a couple weeks ago
[18:52] <maxolasersquad> Dang, Gnashed failed on my pretty quickly.  Youtube videos all say "An error occured, please try again later."
[18:52] <maxolasersquad> s/Gnashed/Gnash
[18:53] <crashsystems> mhall119: congrats! What are you doing at canonical?
[18:53] <mhall119> web development
[18:53] <mhall119> mostly django, though probably some PHP soon
[18:54] <crashsystems> thats what I suspected. sounds like fun
[18:55] <mhall119> so far it is
[18:55] <mhall119> it's like working on loco-directory, only with pay
[18:55] <mhall119> and deadlines
[18:56] <mhall119> and quality control requirements
[18:56] <mhall119> but on the plus side, I'm getting pretty good at writing unit tests
[18:57] <reya276> mhall119, you working at Canonical, where? meaning what part of the US?
[18:58] <reya276> damn dude Congrats!
[18:59] <dantalizing> havent you heard reya276 ? canonical hates freedom
[18:59] <dantalizing> that was sarcasm btw
[19:12] <DammitJim> any of you looking for a PHP developer?
[19:14] <maxolasersquad> Gnash 0.8.9 seems to work well.
[19:18] <reya276> sweet dude, just make sure you get me Mark S. autograph
[19:19] <maxolasersquad> reya276: I've got a few pictures of me and Mark.  No sig though.
[19:20] <maxolasersquad> And one with Jono.
[19:20] <maxolasersquad> You should come out to UDS this October.
[19:20] <reya276> LOL, nah Jono is wack
[19:20] <dantalizing> lol
[19:20] <reya276> lol...
[19:21] <crashsystems> I'll just nip over to the -ca channel and tell him you said that :D
[19:29] <maxolasersquad> reya276: Yeah, he's a pretty crazy guy.
[20:46] <DammitJim> you guys always have jobs for people... any PHP jobs?
[20:53] <reya276> DammitJim, you looking for work?
[20:54] <DammitJim> reya276, no but a good friend of mine
[20:54] <DammitJim> and he does PHP and something else.. and I've heard you guys talk about that sometimes
[20:54] <reya276> he lives around your area?
[20:54] <DammitJim> yes
[20:55] <reya276> I can ask some of my recruiters to see if they have any PHP openings
[20:55] <DammitJim> that would be awesome
[20:55] <reya276> sure dude no problem
[20:56] <DammitJim> what recruiter?
[20:57] <mhall119> reya276: I'm still here in Lakeland
[20:57] <mhall119> working from home
[20:57] <reya276> oh that rocks dude
[20:58] <mhall119> DammitJim: in Tampa I know of some
[20:58] <reya276> so you can just work in your PJ's sweet dude
[20:58] <mhall119> DammitJim: also a Java position in Orlando
[20:58] <DammitJim> I don't know if he could do tampa, but it's worth the shot
[20:58] <mhall119> reya276: I've only done that once ;)
[20:59] <DammitJim> I can't work from home LOL
[20:59] <mhall119> DammitJim: have him call Apex, Tech Systems, Insight Global, and Princeton Information
[20:59] <DammitJim> I guess he has LAMP experience
[20:59] <DammitJim> no Java
[20:59] <mhall119> there's usually PHP openings in Orlando
[20:59] <DammitJim> if he knew java, I would be hammering him all the time
[21:00] <DammitJim> mhall119, what's your source?
[21:01] <mhall119> DammitJim: I don't have a specific person
[21:01] <DammitJim> oh ok
[21:01] <mhall119> have him lookup those 4 recruiters I posted 
[21:01] <DammitJim> oh, those are recruiters?
[21:01] <mhall119> yeah
[21:01] <DammitJim> ok, thanks
[21:01] <mhall119> no problem
[21:02] <mhall119> there's more than that in Orlando, those are just the only ones who's names I can remember