[01:49] thisfred, it is the shortcut group in the .desktop file [01:49] X-Ayatana-Desktop-Shortcuts=U1 [01:50] kenvandine: so we should get rid of that, and we'll be good? [01:50] yes [01:50] awesome, thanks once again! [01:50] and the last couple lines [01:51] thisfred, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/586682/ [01:52] something like that [01:52] thisfred, you want to leave X-Ayatana-Appmenu-Show-Stubs=False [01:52] that keeps you from getting that place holder "File" menu in the appmenu [02:31] I tried to buy songs in rhythymbox(via ubuntuone) and it's stuck at "transferring to your Ubuntu One storage". Has this been resolved yet? === jamesh_ is now known as jamesh === mattgriffin_ is now known as mattgriffin [05:53] hi,. === Guest1151 is now known as Stupid_Bot [05:55] hello [05:55] where am i now >? [05:55] hello duanede === Stecchino_ is now known as Stecchino [08:01] morning all [08:01] o/ [08:12] morning! [08:15] hate spending time on something that does not work out [08:15] i feel like, I got an hour in this I can not stop now! :P [08:15] duanedesign: what doesnt work? [08:16] certain BASH built-in commands do not run in python using subprocess.Popen [08:17] strange. subprocess.Popen(["bash", "-c", "type type"]) [08:17] works [08:17] subprocess.Popen(["bash", "-c", "history"]) [08:18] does not :( [08:19] duanedesign: are you sure thats not a feature and not a bug [08:20] and there is a file you can poke to get that info too [08:21] yeah i was trying to avoid ising .bash_history [08:21] or .zhistory [08:21] but i might have to [08:21] well its 3 lines of code to get it [08:21] so its not that bad [08:22] brb food [08:22] yeah. i would also need to pull the command out of any cruft in the file [08:23] depending on the settings they have each line could look like :1301370701:0;update [08:25] could of already done it with the time i spent messing with subprocess :) [08:28] where /32 [08:28] oops [08:34] * fagan back [08:40] fagan: have you finished what you started yesterday? What are you doing atm? [08:40] mandel: looking at it now trying to figure what is left to do with it [08:40] ill try run it and see if it works [08:45] ok, let me know if you have any issues [08:46] mandel: yep I just wrote most of the code without testing it so im going to presume that there is going to be some failure somewhere in there [08:46] but the logic is fine so its just syntax is probably off [08:46] * fagan hasnt done a lot of python in the past year so is a little rusty [09:30] mandel: cant figure out whats wrong here [09:31] lp:~shanepatrickfagan/+junk/valid_email [09:31] * mandel looks [09:32] its not seeing the submitbutton [09:32] morning [09:33] morning karni [09:36] mandel: I tried using the name of the object too and all that but it still doesnt know about the submitbutton [09:37] fagan: try self.connect(selg.ui.SubmitButton, blah blah blah [09:38] sorry I meant to say selg.ui.SubmitButton [09:38] self :) [09:38] haha what a bad day with the F [09:38] :P [09:40] mandel: worked but there is a little error its saying that im passing an arg to submit [09:41] is there a default value passed into methods when the signal is connected [09:41] Id probably guess its the origin of the event [09:41] fagan: ok, this is the trick, you see the signature of the signals, well if it the signals has a parameter, it mean you get one, if it does not, then you do not get it [09:42] fagan: give me a sec, I just look at how you connected the button :P [09:42] I did not eve try the code yet (mandel should try the code before replying) [09:43] mandel: pull before you fo [09:43] do [09:43] there was a few more errors [09:44] fagan: yes, I just noticed, you forgot self in the method :) [09:46] fagan: self, is like this in gobject or in js, if you call it x, then use x, although there is a reason why is called self [09:46] :) [09:46] so, in the submit method you defined [09:46] def submit(x): [09:47] mandel: I did that to take out the error :) [09:47] so instead of using self, you have to use x because you called like that, the best way to fix it is calling x self :) [09:47] ouch :) [09:47] fagan: by the way, which editor are you using? [09:47] there is some weird indentation [09:48] mandel: I did a bit of it in wordpad and a bit in gedit [09:48] so some of it was fine and some of it is funny [09:48] mandel: the only thing wrong now is getText() isnt working [09:52] text() [09:52] :P [09:52] I think getText is a gtk thing [09:53] mandel: ah ok [09:53] and its in swing as well and vb if I remember too [09:54] fagan: use notepad++ on windows, is free and will handle the move from gedit to notepad++ easily [09:55] you probably have to fix how your tabbing si done, in vim (which I'm not telling you to use, but would be the best choice wink wink) you would do: [09:55] set: ts=4 [09:55] :set expandtab [09:55] you have to do the same in your editor of choice [09:57] Infinite loop oh yeah :P [09:58] mandel: I have it working now perfect other than the css not doing the change [09:58] And it's good morning from me. :) [09:58] JamesTait: morning [09:59] fagan: how do you know the button works as expected? have you added soem debugging? [09:59] mandel: I tested it [10:00] but ill make sure [10:00] yep definitely working [10:01] Hey fagan. :) [10:02] fagan: can you push the changes then? [10:02] fagan: I'd like to see the logic [10:02] mandel: give me 1 sec just getting the css fixed [10:09] mandel: pushed [10:09] I still cant get the css thing working [10:10] it says in the book that you have to set a property and it should work but its not [10:10] so there must be something missing [10:11] * mandel looks [10:12] fagan: if any python developer sees that you have used x instead of self, the might chop off your balls, I'm not joking ;) [10:12] hehe [10:13] mandel: yeah I just fixed that [10:14] * fagan was just being lazy [10:15] And seeing the word self so much instead of this makes me feel strange [10:19] mandel: should I be referencing the specific LineEdit with the wrong var? [10:19] or is that whats going wrong? [10:20] one sec, I've got to fix on thing in the wiki and I'm back with you [10:20] multitasking is hard... [10:20] fagan: do you have your flight tickets to london? [10:21] mandel: I emailed the travel company and they got back to me asking for some more info so I sent it on havent heard back yet [10:21] * fagan follows up [10:22] oh I missed one of their emails crap [10:26] mandel: ok done with that [10:27] fagan: what do you mean? you have the flight? [10:27] mandel: I replied so im going to probably get it sorted in a few hours when they get back [10:27] I just picked my option [10:29] fagan: ok, I'm back with you, looking at the code [10:30] Oh I had a mistake [10:31] fagan: yes, the sintax in the css is wrong: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.3/stylesheet-syntax.html#selector-types [10:31] the selector should have the value quoted [10:31] mandel: yeah thats what I figured too [10:32] fagan: reply to marianna, she needs to talk with you [10:32] mandel: yeah just did [10:34] fagan: and there is another hint int he link I sent you [10:35] with bold letters under the selector :) [10:38] mandel: so I need to remove it and add it again? [10:40] yes [10:45] pyuic4 isnt working right [10:45] its giving me a syntax error [10:46] fagan: may I see the output? [10:46] good morning people! [10:46] mandel: just says error line 1 syntax error [10:47] fagan: and how did you ran the script? [10:47] pyuic4 style.css > style.py [10:48] * fagan feels he probably used the wrong thing [10:48] yes [10:48] you did :) [10:48] you need to use the pyrc to wards the resources file, not the css :) [10:49] oh crap [10:49] yeah my bad [10:49] forgot that from yesterday [10:52] ok I removed the css bit and re-added it but its not working [10:56] fagan: what did you understand from the warning in the docs? [10:58] mandel: yeah I did but I mean the css isnt working at all not just that bit [10:59] fagan: but tell me what you understood? you updated the css, cool, but there is some extra code you have to change [10:59] fagan: please push the changes you made, I'll take a look [10:59] mandel: I added the bit to set the style sheet again because it has to reload it when you change the var [11:00] so in submit down at the bottom I re-add the style sheet [11:00] I understood that its just the sheet isnt working for some reason [11:01] ok, and you regenerated the resource.py file so that the new css is used, right? [11:01] mandel: yep [11:01] please push the changes [11:01] I'd like to see the code [11:03] fagan: in the mean time, this version works: lp:~mandel/+junk/fagan_valid_email [11:04] so, anybody here on maverick experiences the crashes of gnome-settings-daemon? [11:05] mandel: pushed [11:11] yeah your one is working [11:12] mandel: your one is definitely a lot cleaner [11:13] since its properly indented. wordpad ftw [11:14] but I did make it look better by changing the px to 2 [11:14] wait what? use notepad++ no notepad, and definetly not worpad [11:14] qordpad brings a lot of problems... [11:14] mandel: yeah im in gedit [11:15] im going to just use my linux machine for development and use my windows machine for testing [11:15] its what I know so it just works better [11:17] fagan: switching back and forth between linux and windows is not going to be efficient but try it anyway if you want. [11:17] ralsina: ubuntu boots in 8 seconds and windows boots in 20 [11:17] not really too bad [11:18] * fagan has a nice machine [11:18] fagan: s I said, terribly inefficient [11:18] ralsina: yeah but if its more comfortable I dont mind too much [11:18] fagan: if you have a nice machine, at least run one or the other in a VM so you can just switch [11:18] I havent been on the windows side of my machine all day [11:19] fagan: has anyone told you you are argumentative? ;-) [11:19] ralsina: yeah they have :) [11:19] and on the VM thing it takes 40 secs for the VM to boot [11:19] so its nearly easier just to restart [11:19] fagan: but you only boot it once a day. [11:20] fagan: where were you testing your branch? [11:20] mandel: ubuntu [11:20] but I did test it on windows yesterday for the css [11:20] fagan: did it work on ubuntu, I mean your branch? [11:20] mandel: my branch nope [11:20] fagan: I am not interested in arguing. I am interested in helping you code. If you prefer not listening to us who have about 25 years combined experience, that's ok, of course. [11:21] ralsina: its cool ill give it a try [11:21] fagan: well, your code will not work on windows as it is due to the resources.py, it has to be generated on windows to work on windows [11:22] mandel: ah that was it [11:22] I'm going to guess you have a 64 machine, right? [11:22] mandel: yep [11:22] so I have to recompile it each time for windows [11:22] thats ok [11:22] dont add autogenerated code to a trunk, it does not make sense, is better to automate the generation like I did with the setup.py [11:23] mandel: ok I can do that [11:23] I was just doing this up fast so didnt do that [11:24] fagan: I was not asking you to add the auto-generation bit, I was more saying, dont add autogenerated code [11:24] mandel: yeah I know [11:24] I have gotten 1 thing weird [11:25] hmmm its gone now [11:25] fagan, I will take my son to school in a bit, but in 60 minutes from now, we are going to have a training session :-) [11:25] the text box wasnt letting me edit it [11:25] ralsina: cooll [11:25] *cool [11:26] fagan: in the meantime, I would like it if you could read PEP8, the document that talks about python style [11:26] ralsina: will do [11:26] naming conventions and such. It's not long, and you should have time to do it. [11:28] fagan: here's how we'll work from now forwards [11:28] fagan: mandel will give you some exercises, it may be testing or trying to do something we want in the app, early in the morning [11:29] fagan: then you spend the morning working on it, and I review it after your lunch [11:29] ralsina: ok cool [11:29] That way mandel doesn't get too stuck and I can help you get up to speed on pyqt [11:30] ralsina: good plan [11:31] fagan: cool, let's do that then. Remember that Qt has great docs, and for most things, it is there ;) [11:31] ralsina: google like a pro [11:32] fagan: cool, because that's what I do ;) PyQt is large enough that noone knows it by memory, you just need a vague memory on where to look. [11:32] ralsina: well I read the book a little more after work yesterday and know some of it a little better [11:33] and I did get mixed up with gtk anyway :) [11:33] that's good [11:33] not the getting mixed up, of course ;-) [11:34] ralsina: well most gui toolkits use gettext rather than text [11:34] so it was a little bit of a oh they do that differently [11:34] well, Qt is consistent. You always have property() and setProperty() [11:35] ralsina: yeah I looked at the notes after mandel said it was text() [11:35] and I knew where to look to check [11:36] so at least ill know for next time [11:36] cool. Now I'll go make breakfast and ship the kid to school, be back in one hour, and then we'll go over your code. Ok? [11:36] sure [12:47] good morning everyone! [12:47] morning nessita [12:47] hi fagan, how are you? [12:48] good good learning more today [12:48] :) [12:49] My empathy crashed, I removed all passwords from the keyring and next restart of empathy brought it online [12:49] not something I was expecting :) [12:49] rye: on 11.04? [12:49] fagan, yes [12:49] the password system was changed [12:50] fagan, yes, but it keeps using both passwords [12:50] rye: yeah well there is an issue with the old passwords if you updated earier [12:50] (in the release) [12:50] .me walking dog [12:51] fagan, so e.g. on startup it will use the old entry, and fail if password has changed. Going to the accounts allows me to click that funny switch one does not know which state it is now in and I can go online [12:51] but now i removed the passwords completely and it succeeded at connecting to all the accounts... probably mission-control is caching something [12:51] rye: interesting === teknico is now known as teknico_away [13:09] ralsina: you back? [13:25] https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-control-panel/lp-721525/+merge/55327 [13:27] is what I could use reviews on :) good morning also [13:29] thisfred: I can give it a review and test [13:29] * fagan just finished reading pep8 anyway and is waiting for ralsina [13:29] fagan, awesome. 1 sec I forgot to list test instructions :) [13:30] thisfred: cool [13:30] looks pretty trivial anyway [13:34] fagan: the fix is trivial yeah, once ken told me how to do it. Never in a million years would I have come up with it :) [13:35] fagan: instructions to test are added [13:38] thisfred: yeah just doing it [13:39] thisfred: yep working [13:39] +1 [13:39] tests pass too [13:39] fagan: awesome thx [13:39] (I knew there was nothing in the tests that would fail but worth a try to see) [13:43] * mandel back [13:56] * nessita will be offline to do some testing with the control panel [13:57] nessita: need any help with the testing? [13:58] (im not doing much at the moment) === nessita1 is now known as nessita [13:59] all: ralsina has the telephone company fixing something at his place, so he wont be here for the standup [13:59] I dont know how long he will be off [13:59] mandel: ok [14:00] I have the phone compay working on my building, so my internet connection oscilates between miserable and none [14:00] Hey, they fixed it! [14:00] Maybe! [14:01] Ill go on break and stay till 5 if needs be === nessita1 is now known as nessita [14:01] (I mean ill go on break for an hour and stay on till 5) [14:02] fagan is now a good time for your lunch break? [14:02] ralsina: could use a review if you're not busy with 10 other things already [14:02] ralsina: its 2 so its ok [14:02] If yes, then come back for standup and after that we'll have our review, ok? [14:02] thats cool [14:03] thisfred: I can try, as long as the phone guy doesn't cut the RED wire again [14:03] ralsina: https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-control-panel/lp-721525/+merge/55327 and good luck ;) [14:04] me [14:04] * ralsina should get one of those 3g thingies just as a backup [14:04] mandel: thats not for an hour isnt it? [14:04] mandel: get your clock straight :-) [14:05] thisfred: that is merged already! [14:05] yay I was right :) [14:05] mandel: 1 hour early :-) [14:05] thisfred: you already have +2 in that branch! [14:05] ralsina: oh wow :) [14:05] I think ralsina is lagging [14:06] thanks nessita! [14:06] prego :-) [14:07] I am lagging between 2 and 14 seconds. Usually it's 87 milliseconds :-( [14:07] fagan: is it? dammed dont tell me they changes the time in spain and nowhere else.... === teknico_away is now known as teknico [14:08] mandel: I think all of europe (minus the UK, but that's an island anyway) [14:08] mandel: amazingly, it's not spring here [14:08] ralsina: well, there I'm not surprised... [14:09] * mandel puto govierno de los huevos cambiando la hora [14:09] then, I'm goign to microwave my lunch :) === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [14:09] mandel: and the standup is set on MY TZ ;) [14:11] he, check this out: http://www.cadw.wales.gov.uk/ [14:11] view the source and tell me where the WTF is :) [14:13] mandel: client side validation ftw! :) [14:13] hahaha [14:13] always I great thins to do hahahaha [14:13] that I was an a [14:13] my brain is fucked after reading that :P [14:14] mandel: do you suppose the search box is able to empty the db? [14:14] thisfred: I dont know…. is hard to guess with those clues [14:14] I'm really tempted to give it a shoot [14:15] http://www.cadw.wales.gov.uk/default.asp?id=7&lang=events is also great: To see what’s on, go to www.cadwevents.co.uk [14:15] PLEASE DO NOT USE THE DROP-DOWN BOXES BELOW TO SEARCH FOR EVENTS. [14:15] hahah [14:15] how can putting that in be less work than taking the search out? [14:16] although, it *is* asp [14:16] come on guys. Don't break the wales govmt, ok? [14:16] ralsina: maybe that is how the language came into being in the first place [14:17] DROP TABLE vowels; [14:17] hahahahaha [14:17] No, welsh was invented by cats on typewriters [14:17] gaaaaakh lag [14:18] ralsina: I read somewhere that the Welsh pretty much colonized Patagonia, so you better be careful ;) [14:19] They might come for you [14:19] thisfred: well, a few towns. You can still eat welsh cake there. And the young people (even not welsh-descendent) learn welsh for fun. [14:19] I've been there (Gaiman). Pretty. [14:20] I'd like to go some day [14:20] thisfred: ireland!=UK [14:20] ok, true story: when I arrived to england, like while back, I share a flat with some brits that though it would be funny just to have welsh tv channels and see what the spaniard would do. Got to tell you I spent house watching TV really worried of how would I finish my degree if I could not even understand a soap opera [14:20] well, you can go in 2 weeks if you want :-) [14:20] * fagan just read the scrollback :P [14:20] fagan: oh Ireland is also still not on DST? [14:21] well, it is another island. Island folk are peculiar ;) [14:21] darn, the management call moved one hour earlier and overlaps the standup now! [14:21] thisfred: Ireland is on the UK time for the moment but we are going to be sticking to UTC probably this year and not doing the daylight savings time like the UK [14:21] thisfred: Ireland is too protestant to follow the UK :) [14:21] fagan: I hate daylight savings, so good for you [14:22] dobey: let's not go there :) [14:22] alecu: ping [14:22] heh [14:22] nessita, pong [14:22] DST is just more proof that time doesn't really exist [14:22] thisfred: yeah its going to be sweet when they stop using it since then I wont be going crazy when the clocks go forward like this week [14:22] alecu: question. Should the webclient request (in the control panel) timeout by their own if there is not network connection? [14:22] yeah, and nobody [14:23] s ever been able to explain how it saves anything [14:23] everyone should just use UTC [14:23] thisfred: its there so farmers wont miss out of everything in life [14:23] the hour you get at one end of the day, you lose at the other [14:23] it was created because they get up at 4 am and sleep at 8 in the winter [14:23] nessita, yes, if there's no local network connection it should fail immediately. [14:24] fagan: farmers get up at 4, they're pretty much screwed anyway [14:24] thisfred: DST is for farmers [14:24] then let them use it :) [14:24] but since Ireland has like 4 farmers now they dont need DST [14:24] no, they should use UTC [14:24] nessita, if the problem is not local (it's from the router to our server) then it will take a bit to timeout. [14:24] so its all cool [14:24] I have no problem with them getting up later [14:24] alecu: it does not, as per my test: I had the control panel working, and I disable networking using the NM applet. Any ideas? [14:24] they can adjust their alarms [14:25] which happens anyway, because roosters don't have digital watches [14:26] ralsina: hmmm so during standup you have a management call so does that mean the other thing is pushed back too or would the management call be over quickly enough? [14:26] * fagan just realised that quickly and management dont mix [14:27] fagan: I have the standup in the middle of the call. I will do both [14:27] cool [14:27] http://www.revbeergoggles.com/beergoggles/clock-n-dagger-sm.jpeg [14:28] thisfred: thats the symbol for killing time [14:28] Let's do it! :) [14:28] slack! [14:31] thisfred: I am already doing that [14:32] * fagan is at lunch for 30 minutes now :) [14:32] * alecu will turn off the network connection to test what nessita just found [14:32] alecu: thanks! [14:41] nessita, I've started the u1cp backend from trunk with DEBUG=True [14:42] nessita, then I logged in, disconnected the wi-fi, then I tried clicking both the cloud folders and the devices tab [14:42] nessita, in both cases the error message (Value could not be retrieved) shows in about 5 seconds [14:42] nessita, the log shows this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/586863/ [14:42] nessita, so I think that perhaps I'm not understanding the issue [14:45] alecu: how did you disconnect your wifi? [14:45] in the mean time I'll retry [14:46] nessita, left click on network icon, unchecked "Enable wireless" [14:46] nessita, left click on network icon, unchecked "Enable wireless" [14:46] that's how I disconnected. [14:47] alecu: my backend gets stuck in 2011-03-29 10:46:09,265 - ubuntuone.controlpanel.webclient - DEBUG - WebClient: getting url: GET, https://one.ubuntu.com/api/1.0/devices/ [14:47] and nothing else happens (weird! [14:47] ) [14:47] I'll try with trunk [14:48] alecu: what's response "4"? [14:48] nessita, 'error_msg': u'(4L, None)' [14:48] I'm looking it up in the code and Soup docs. === nessita1 is now known as nessita [14:49] alecu: nopes, is not working. Could you please try unchecking "Enable Networking"? [14:49] since I don't have wifi here [14:49] nessita, sure. [14:49] nessita, where are you? in 1995? [14:49] my backend (trunk) hangs showing this line: 2011-03-29 10:48:32,813 - ubuntuone.controlpanel.webclient - DEBUG - WebClient: getting url: GET, https://one.ubuntu.com/api/1.0/devices/ [14:49] * fagan was in 2005 a week ago [14:49] alecu: :-) (desktop station, I'm wired!) [14:50] nessita, I'll pull trunk as well first [14:50] alecu: thanks! [14:51] I'll be back [14:53] all: stand up in 8 minutes! [14:53] ack [14:56] alecu: how did it go? [14:56] nessita, pulled trunk, disconnected by unchecking "Enable Networking", but I still get the same behaviour. [14:56] alecu: are you running natty with all the updates? [14:56] nessita, perhaps I should try updating the system; Libsoup may be out of date. [14:56] maybe [14:56] nessita, I'll try that after the standup. [14:57] perfect (I mat record a video as well) [14:57] alecu, nessita: what are you trying to do? [14:58] dobey, debug a weird behaviour that only nessita is experiencing. [14:58]