[01:00] <rlameiro> ScottL: ping
[01:20] <rlameiro> ScottL: ping
[01:22] <rlameiro> ScottL: I was just talking with Ricardo LaFuente
[01:23] <rlameiro> about the design stuf
[01:23] <rlameiro> he seems very happy to help
[01:26] <ScottL> that's awesome!
[01:27] <ScottL> sorry, i'm getting kids to do homework, cleaning up from dinner, and trying to get the dogs to poop outside :P
[01:28] <rlameiro> lol
[01:28] <rlameiro> I asked him to join the channel
[01:28] <rlameiro> he may come in anytime
[01:29] <rlameiro> welcome luluganeta :D
[01:29] <ScottL> we probably should get him in touch with macinnis :)
[01:29] <luluganeta> hai
[01:29] <ScottL> hi luluganeta 
[01:29] <rlameiro> ScottL: luluganeta is LaFuente
[01:29] <luluganeta> hi ScottL
[01:30] <luluganeta> ricardo, plz :)
[01:30] <rlameiro> yes he should
[01:30] <rlameiro> ok
[01:30] <luluganeta> oh, there's a namespace clash with rlameiro, i guess
[01:30] <luluganeta> heh
[01:30] <rlameiro> to ricardos here now :D
[01:30] <rlameiro> to/two
[01:31] <rlameiro> ScottL: does macinnis come here regularly?
[01:31] <ScottL> luluganeta, rlameiro was telling me you might be interested in helping with ubuntu studio
[01:32] <ScottL> maybe with theming or art ?
[01:32] <luluganeta> yes we might (we = manufacturaindependente.org)
[01:32] <luluganeta> still reading through a list thread rlameiro pointed me to
[01:32] <ScottL> we just "hired" Dick MacInnis as art lead, we probably need to get you in touch with him
[01:32] <luluganeta> but yes, that would be a great area to work on
[01:33] <ScottL> luluganeta, we would appreciate any help in any areas :P
[01:33] <luluganeta> sure, i guess i'll also need to install UbS tomorrow to see how much changed since i last used it
[01:33] <luluganeta> but among other things, we've been curious about trying our hand at theming gimp/inkscape/scribus icon and widget-wise
[01:34] <luluganeta> ofc this does not exclude any other stuff that needs work, eg wallpapers or window themes
[01:34] <luluganeta> i think now i'll lose some time poring over the website and screenshots
[01:34] <ScottL> that would be awesome!
[01:35] <ScottL> oop, i need to go get the dogs, they like to get into the neighbor's yard, be back in a minute
[01:35] <luluganeta> ha :)
[01:36] <rlameiro> lol
[01:47] <ScottL> back
[01:48] <ScottL> luluganeta, would you like me to send you an email that will introduce you to macinnis?
[01:48] <luluganeta> would love to! I think first thing would be to find out what needs help and where we can fit in
[01:49] <luluganeta> so that's a great first step :)
[01:49] <ScottL> i will send the email in just a minute then :)
[01:50] <ScottL> luluganeta, one of the things i mentioned to macinnis is that it would be lovely to have several wallpapers and theme's along with some new art for GDM
[01:50] <ScottL> hi Kokito , did you see the email on the -dev mailing list?
[01:50] <Kokito> hi ScottL 
[01:51] <Kokito> ScottL: yes, I saw the message and replied to it
[01:52] <ScottL> Kokito, groovy, i'll check my email in a bit :)
[01:52] <Kokito> cool ScottL :)
[01:58] <luluganeta> ScottL: that sounds very doable :)
[01:59] <ScottL> luluganeta, i guess you already got the email then :)
[01:59] <luluganeta> we could use some hand-holding through the process, but let's email on that
[01:59] <luluganeta> i'll check
[01:59] <ScottL> i'm really hoping that macinnis will take the lead but i don't know how well he works with other on art at this point
[02:00] <ScottL> not to imply that he doesn't play well with others ;)
[02:00] <ScottL> he was designated less than two weeks ago as art lead, so we are still feeling it all out :P
[02:00] <Kokito> ScottL: the community sites referenced in my email are currently down due to hw problems on the server. they should be back up soon though
[02:00] <luluganeta> no worries, i'll write more tomorrow morning then!
[02:00] <luluganeta> it's bedtime for me now, ta
[02:01] <ScottL> goodnight luluganeta 
[02:01] <ScottL> Kokito, hmmm, they were up during my lunch hour :/
[02:02] <ScottL> oh, you meant the wiki i bet
[02:02] <ScottL> i checked this one and it was still up:  http://mousike.dyndns.org/ubuntustudio/
[02:02] <Kokito> ScottL: might be intermittent, as they have changed the RAID and are restoring backups now
[02:02] <ScottL> checking the wiki now
[02:02] <ScottL> i've had some bad problems building up over several months where the wiki doesn't work very well sometimes
[02:03] <ScottL> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TaskWebRevamp  this is working for me now
[02:03] <ScottL> keep in mind Kokito , that much of what is on that page is what it took to get where we are and not exactly pertinent to what we are currently doing
[02:04] <ScottL> i was hoping david or stochastic would take more of a lead on this, but alas they haven't :(
[02:04] <ScottL> but i realize that we all have constraints outside of our volunteer work :)
[02:04] <ScottL> be back in a minute, small emergency with the kids
[02:04] <Kokito> ScottL: once our server is back up, I will setup a D6 install and try to play with the theme that was shared on the list i Feb
[02:10] <Kokito> ok :)
[02:34] <ScottL> Kokito, back, that's a good idea :)
[02:35] <ScottL> ultimately we may have some difficulty getting the files onto the server
[02:36] <ScottL> as i mentioned in the email, stochastic is the one who had a) access to the site, b) knowledge about drupal, and c) first hand knowledge about _our_ drupal site
[02:36] <ScottL> but unfortunately he's been very busy for quite a while
[02:36] <ScottL> i should be able to get access to it, but it might be a situation that might take a few weeks to resolve going through channels :P
[02:36] <ScottL> but that's the way it goes
[02:36] <Kokito> ScottL: real life does get in the way
[02:37] <Kokito> I am pretty familiar with Drupal, so hopefully I can help
[02:37] <ScottL> i hope so too :)
[02:37] <Kokito> I have checked the existing website, and I don't really see anything out of the ordinary
[02:37] <ScottL> this is something that i've wanted to make progress for a long time and we have made progress, but it isn't nearly as much as i had hoped by this time
[02:37] <Kokito> so it should be very easy to admin (unless I am missing something), which I doubt
[02:39] <Kokito> I have unlimited hosting space/bandwidth on an "el cheap" service provider, which for testing purposes should be more than adquate
[02:39] <Kokito> ^adequate
[02:40]  * Kokito is writing from a ChromeOS notebook and cannot get used to the keyboard...
[15:47] <scott-work> paultag: any chance of getting the updated -controls built soon ?
[16:22] <paultag> scott-work: is the code patched up?
[18:32] <scott-work> paultag: which code do you mean?  from git where you and ailo have been working?
[18:36] <scott-work> paultag: oh, you have a branch for -controls...i see that now :)
[18:39] <scott-work> sorry, i can be slow sometimes
[18:39] <scott-work> i thought you and ailo were working strictly off his git repo
[18:39] <scott-work>  
[18:42] <scott-work> oh wait, that isn't the latest code...but i remembered that you were building it in ppa but if FTBFS
[18:43] <scott-work> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/65613497/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.ubuntustudio-controls_0.5.0-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[20:05] <ailo> paultag, You mean patched for building?
[20:09] <ailo> paultag, I've been meaning to learn about packaging and how to package python apps, but I don't expect I'll know enough to solve any packaging problems until next release. 
[20:10] <ailo> scott-work, I suspect it is too late to get -controls in at this stage?
[20:12] <ailo> At this point, I don't see much point in packaging the -controls, if it is not to be included into Natty. It is possible to try it using the source, if someone wants to do that. Otherwise, I'd rather focus on the next release, and a new version of the app.
[20:14] <ailo> I meant to say, if someone wants to try running the -controls app, it's possible to use just the source. Some files need to be placed in certain directories top run the app.
[20:45] <scott-work> ailo:  i believe that it is NOT too late to get an update version of -controls into natty...i may be wrong or others might simply disagree
[20:46] <scott-work> ailo: BUT, in order for it to be even considered we need to have -controls working, i do not know if it does or not at this point
[20:46] <scott-work> ailo: without some feedback to affirm that it is either working or will be very, very soon then i will talk to TheMuso about pulling it from seeds in short order
[22:19] <ailo> paultag, What do you think?
[22:21] <ailo> paultag, Would you be up to package it? I would love to, but I just don
[22:21] <ailo> don't know how to do it yet