| mgariepy | good morning everyone | 13:05 |
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| highvoltage | Edubuntu meeting in around 10 minutes in #ubuntu-meeting | 19:49 |
| vmlintu | highvoltage: are you around? | 21:07 |
| highvoltage | vmlintu: I am indeed | 21:33 |
| vmlintu | great.. I just read the logs from the debian-edu meeting and realised that uds is coming soon | 21:36 |
| vmlintu | I started thinking if I should finally attend and try to actually get involved in something | 21:37 |
| highvoltage | that would be great | 21:38 |
| vmlintu | are there any plans for the next cycle yet? ideas? dreams? | 21:39 |
| highvoltage | they're being formed, there are some things I'd certainly like to see improve | 21:40 |
| highvoltage | ltsp live still needs some work | 21:40 |
| highvoltage | if I could even just get the race with network manager fixed that would already be a win | 21:41 |
| vmlintu | I've been just stuck with puavo development so I have no idea what is coming with natty | 21:41 |
| highvoltage | natty turned out to be quite good (I didn't really expect that, it was quite a bumpy ride with early alphas) | 21:42 |
| vmlintu | do you know yet who are attending uds? | 21:44 |
| highvoltage | not exactly. I expect to be there. stgraber too | 21:46 |
| alkisg | highvoltage: race with the network manager? meaning? | 21:46 |
| vmlintu | there's also linuxtag in berlin during the same week | 21:46 |
| alkisg | For 2 nic systems, you can set eth1 to "manual" in /etc/network/interfaces, then network-manager won't touch it | 21:46 |
| highvoltage | alkisg: if you start ltsp-live before network manager has settled down, then network manager resets the IP as set by LTSP live | 21:47 |
| alkisg | highvoltage: on 1 nic systems or 2? | 21:47 |
| highvoltage | alkisg: either | 21:47 |
| alkisg | highvoltage: need any help? I've looked into that | 21:47 |
| alkisg | Either from /etc/network/interfaces, with manual, or in /etc/networkmanager/system-connections, define a connection you want | 21:48 |
| highvoltage | alkisg: I know what needs to be done, we can basically ask network manager what its status is. I just haven't had time to do it this scycle | 21:48 |
| highvoltage | *cycle | 21:48 |
| alkisg | OK. Instead of asking, you can tell network manager to set a connection as you want it | 21:49 |
| alkisg | And since it uses inotify, you can just drop a file there | 21:49 |
| alkisg | And it'll instantly be used | 21:49 |
| alkisg | For single nic systems I'd propose proxydhcp | 21:49 |
| highvoltage | alkisg: yeah, I remember we discussed that before, but I just haven't had time for that. I'd like to give the option to either proxydhcp, or start dhcpd on an alias | 21:51 |
| alkisg | No need for aliases | 21:51 |
| alkisg | Network manager supports multiple ips | 21:51 |
| highvoltage | multiple ips without aliases? how does that work? | 21:52 |
| alkisg | The aliases along with ifconfig are the old framework | 21:52 |
| alkisg | The new one that corresponds to `ip` can handle multiple IPs on each interface without aliases | 21:52 |
| alkisg | Don't know the theory there, just the tools | 21:53 |
| highvoltage | ok, that's interesting. | 21:53 |
| vmlintu | do you have any links for examples? | 21:53 |
| alkisg | Supported since linux 2.6 i think | 21:53 |
| alkisg | Network manager has a GUI for it | 21:53 |
| alkisg | Just add another IP | 21:53 |
| alkisg | Then, ifconfig won't show that ip | 21:53 |
| alkisg | But ip addr show will show it | 21:53 |
| alkisg | (ifconfig doesn't speak the new framework) | 21:53 |
| vmlintu | is there some command line tool that supports it? | 21:54 |
| alkisg | ip | 21:54 |
| alkisg | It supports both adding and displaying IPs | 21:55 |
| vmlintu | I guess it's time to learn new things.. | 21:55 |
| alkisg | E.g. in 2 days I'll do a demo in a lab with public IPs and without a dhcp server. My laptop will have 2 IPs there, one public one and an 192.168.0.1 one, where it will act as a dhcp server with dnsmasq. | 21:56 |
| alkisg | highvoltage: so you can drop 2-3 different connections in /etc/networkmanager/system-connections | 21:56 |
| alkisg | 1) auto eth0 - proxydhcp | 21:57 |
| alkisg | 2) static eth0 192.168.0.1 - normal dhcp | 21:57 |
| alkisg | 3) static eth0 based on the current subnet (queried with ipconfig -n) + second IP on 192.168.0.1 + dhcp there | 21:57 |
| alkisg | And let the user select one of them with just 2 clicks on the network manager applet | 21:58 |
| alkisg | (and it'll probably be easier if "auto eth0/auto eth1" is used first, and wait to see if there's a dhcp server around on each nic or not) | 22:01 |
| alkisg | 'night all | 22:01 |
| highvoltage | oops, missed alkis | 22:35 |
| wolfik | hi | 22:47 |
| wolfik | i teach in gymnasium and i have 18 computers i try use oneconf but it don't work in ubuntu 10.10 if this work just in 11.04? | 22:48 |
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